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From YouTube: Panel: “Open Source"/DevOps/Contribuir/Utilizar
Description
Irina Calvo, Beatriz Martínez, Víctor Morales, José Barahona
Talking during Kubernetes Community Day on January 30, 2021.
https://community.cncf.io/san-salvador/
A
A
B
B
B
The
last
club,
with
a
pending
conference
in
North,
America
and
I,
was
participating
as
a
non-speaker
listener,
and
I
met
several
people,,
including
another
of
the
organizers
of
the
community
of
costa
rica,
and
then
we
decided
we
found
that
we
had
certain
similarities
in
terms
of
the
passion
we
had
for
being
able
to
help
national
talent
to
develop
and
that
it
was
seen
to
add
to
the
world.
So
we
formed
the
community
of
rulers,
and
this
year
we
have
been
doing
various
areas,
events
and
now,
in
the
coming
months,
we
have
more
more
events.
C
D
C
A
Internally,
I
asked
that
we
wanted
a
community
at
that
time
of
openstack
and
move
to
jara
and
little
by
little.
We
began
to
get
to
know
from
the
start,
because
for
us
this
opensource
project
was
new,
so
we
had
to
contribute
to
the
project
and
through
the
contribution
and
what
we
learned
in
the
contribution
that
they
are
associated
with.
Also
something
new,,
this
supporting
them
and
sharing
our
experiences
in
a
community
was,.
A
You
know,
this
organizing,
sending
emails,
this
doing
the
marketing
part,
removing
people,,
offering
many
times
we
had
to
offer
these
services
to
sell
out
of
pocket,
but
eventually
it
was
The.
Community
grew
and
more
people
became
interested
and
more
experiences
were
shared
because
because
it
was
something
very
pleasant
because
it
was
interesting.
Enough,
I.
A
C
Have
sought
to
get
support
from
those
employers
to
participate
actively
in
the
community
and
if
so,
what
has
been?
The
Reception
in
my
case
has
been
more
of
a
hobby
in
the
sense
that
at
the
beginning,
it
was
more
of
a
hobby
and
you
go
in
because
you
like
it
and
you
go
in
to
review
issues
on
the
weekends.
C
In
your
work,,
usually
only
when
something
clearing
age
is
rare
to
complement,
it.
Let's
say
it's
where
the
types
of
industry
are
when
I
began
to
work,
the
clay
that,
despite
reaching
age,
then
you
only
have
how
well
defined
you
are
and
from
there
you
migrate.
Other
types
of
companies
are
usually
already
different,,
at
least
in
the
last
one,
in
this
company
that
I
am
in
right
now,.
If
we
are
allowed
to
contribute
to
opensource,
we
use,,
we
use
a
lot
of
things
from
bleeding.
B
Think
that
very
different
things
have
happened
to
me
in
different
companies,,
some
that
are
a
little
smaller,
I
think
they
are
quite
willing,,
but
if
they
consider
it
strange
because
they
are
not
used
to
it.
So
many
people
in
the
company
are
encouraged
to
contribute,
for
example,.
So
one
has
to
do
the
groundwork
to
convince
them
first
and
explain
to
them
that
they
are
thinkers,.
B
How
something
like
this
can
be
useful
for
the
company,
in
other
cases,
for
example,,
the
largest
companies
usually
have
people
who
He
has
already
traveled
that
path.
So,
depending
on
how
big
the
company
is,,
they
may
already
have
their
own
documentation
and
processes
to
be
able
to
start
contributing,
starting
with
him,
because
there
are
many
things
as
far
as
how
legal
it
can
be
to
contribute.
being
part
of
a
company,
and
how
should
it
be
done
so
that
the
copyright
of
the
code
is
correct,.
B
Let's
say
then
I
think
that
and
in
large
companies
you
will
also
see
some
cases
in
which
perhaps
one
department
agrees
to
another.
Not
so
I
think
it
depends
a
lot
as
well
of
the
management
teams
that
one
has
in
the
company,
but
it
also
depends
on
how
one
gambles
and
convinces
people
that
it
is
something
useful.
I.
A
Am
going
to
answer
that
question
and
what
is
presented,
we
give
you
the
crystal
microphone
that
is
presented
You
can
join
the
panela.
In
my
particular
experience
of
convincing
the
part
of
the
management,,
it
has
been
two
parts,
not
when
you
are
working
to
interact
directly
with
the
manager,
eminently
say
that,
with
seven
resources
to
put
together
this
community-
and
it
was
not
always
difficult
to
justify
the
development
talent
because
with
the
morning
it
is
that
they
mentioned
this.
A
It
looks
like
it
is
not
seen
at
first
glance.
It
is
an
investment
in
the
future.
No,
so
you
have
to
develop
the
talent,
you
have
to
invest
hours,
human
talent,
this
so
that
later
you
can
receive
that
that
part
of
the
support
from
the
employer
in
the
face
I
am
currently
really
allows
me
more
by
nature
of
me
than
my
imposition
I
have
to
be
involved,
but
I
think
that
this
has
happened.
A
Thanks
to
the
fact
that
over
these
years,
I
have
been
able
to
demonstrate
that
I
have
that
asset
that
the
community
is
surrounded
by
but,
well,.
It
is
an
exception
to
marbella,
and
now,
if
this
is
the
opportunity
of
africa
presents
itself
and
if
you
have
a
timely
pending
sharing
your
experience.
Thank
you.
F
Very
much
víctor,
sorry
for
a
nerve,
a
little
late
nice
to
meet
you
all
and
to
be
here
today,
sharing
and
well,.
My
name
is
beatriz
and
right
now,
I
work
at
asobal,,
which
is
the
company
behind
the
project,
think
if,
prior
to
this
I,
have
spent
more
than
seven
years,
working
at
ibm
and
well,
to
share
In
response
to
this
question,
I
totally
agree
with
what
you
are
commenting,
on,
at
IBM,
being
a
larger
company
in
the
department,.
F
You
could
get
involved
with
communities
and
participate,
because
the
project
did
not
think
so,,
but
it
was
always
overtime
from
your
work
and
never
sharing
in
no
type
of
software
or
something
that
you
were
doing
for
your
day
to
day
at
work.
Now,
for
example,
is
a
completely
different
leap.
In
my
day
to
day
90%
of
what
we
do
in
my
current
colleagues,
apparently
open
source,
then
there
was
a
radical
change,
then
100%
according
to
what
irina
and
víctor
have
been
sharing.
A
Now,
first
of
all,
the
things
that
have
confronted
me
is
that
when
you
contribute
to
an
open
source
project,
you
are
also
representing
the
company.
You
work
for,
that
is,,
if
you
work
for
ibm,
for
inter,
for
hp,
for
samsung,,
and
you
make
some
contribution
to
a
code,
well,
people
from
other
areas
can
understand
it
as
certain
interests
of
the
company,,
not
in
this
case,,
it
may
be
good,
samsung
is
interested
in
participate
in
this
project.
Then
it
already
represents,
or
already
has
some
piece,
because
it.
F
F
That
is
why
they
are
investing
in
it
always
thinking
that
they
have
a
reason
behind
it,
and
here
is
also
a
bit
related
to
what
I
am
going
to
say
with
the
topic
that
was
saying,
irina
de
you
have
to
be
very
careful
with
the
licenses
or
what
the
software
is.
If
you
are
contributing
to
a
project
with
your
username
and
your
company
email,
it
is
the
company
that
is
making
that
contribution,
and
many
times
in
your
It
will
come
stipulated
that
all
the
software
that
you
develop
is
owned
by
the
company,.
F
So
it
is
not
yours,.
It
belongs
to
that
company,.
So,
even
when
you
do
it,
the
personal
title
one
weekend
during
non-working
hours,
many
times
in
your
contract
will
come
Stipulated
that
this
software
is
the
intellectual
property
of
our
company,,
then
here,
well,.
What
we
were
saying
comes
into
play
a
bit
about
how
to
approach
it,.
You
can
have
your
personal
user
that
is
not
associated
and
in
the
end,
your
free
time
can
be
your
hobby,.
A
F
Project,
in
fact,
something
good
in
my
baby,
for
example,
so
we
had
that
policy
and
you
can
see
it
in
most
of
the
twitter
that
you
can
see.
They
are
my
opinions.
They
do
not
represent
my
employer.
What
that
a
lot
of
people
have
it,
and
this
is
for
a
reason,,
not
precisely
to
avoid
what
Víctor
was
feeling,,
that
this
person
works
at
google,.
What
he
is
saying
is
an
opinion
from
his
company,
or
is
it
his
personal
opinion,.
B
A
C
A
D
A
D
A
D
F
Well,,
this
question
has
two
parts.
that
they
are
closely
related
and
it
depends
on
how
you
contribute
or
how
you
also
collaborate
a
little
at
the
time
of
your
professional
career,
where
you
are
going
to
have
an
impact
in
some
areas
or
others
from
my
point
of
view,
the
whole
community.
Let's
say
it
has
three
parts
or
three
faces,
not
the
first
side
of
the
coin.
F
We
could
think
that
they
are
all
the
members
of
the
community
who,
in
the
end,
for
example,,
attend
the
events
as
listeners
as
attendees
the
people
who
watch
tutorials
the
people
who
use
opensource
projects,
the
ones
who
listen
to
podcasts,
for
example.
Then,
when
you
contribute-
and
if
you
are
part
of
this
movement,
part
of
this
community-
and
you
follow
a
half,
for
example,
when
you
go
to
see
the
next
event
and
you
go
to
everyone
regularly,
what
can
we
get
when
we
collaborate
in
this
way?
The
first
knowledge
a
lot
of
knowledge.
We
are.
F
Who
knows
that
you
have
a
profile
and
are
interested,
coincides
with
you
and
right
now
they
are
looking
for
someone
who
would
fit
our
contacts.
Another
currency
from
the
community
is
those
who
participate
by
contributing
those
experiences,
either
by
participating
as
speakers
or
as
panelists,.
We
are
today
sharing
our
experience,
here,
those
who
give
the
talks,
those
who
write
tutorials,,
hey,
well,,
when
faced
with
this
technology,
I,
am
going
to
write
a
tutorial
for
make
life
easier
for
someone
who,.
How
does
this
impact
us
or
what
benefits?
Does
it
bring
us?
No,
for
example,?
F
I
could
collaborate
and
contribute
not
many
times
we
spend
the
coin
like
this,
not
wanting
to
improve
the
experience
a
little
for
others,
because
you
gain
a
lot
of
experience,
not
only
because
explaining
that
many
times
we
say
that
you
really
understand
something
when
you
are
able
to
explain
it
and
expose
it
to
others,
but
also
acquiring
many
options,
which
is,
for
example,
giving
talks,.
There
comes
a
time
when
you
reach
the
best
35
years
working,,
not
there.
You
have
to
go,
give
a
talk
to
a
client
or
present
something
or
have
a
discussion.
F
If
you
take
all
this
experience
of
having
been
facing
audiences
to
expose
a
topic
to
limit
yourself
to
spend
the
time,
you
have
also
many
that
point
of
view
bring
you
and
then
I
would
be
a
bit.
We
have
seen
two
sides
of
the
coin,
and
he
said
three
there
are
that
I
What
is
missing,
is
the
organizers,
when
you
participate
organizing
the
events,,
making
it
easier
for
this
to
happen,.
F
It
may
be
that
you
are
in
charge
of
finding
the
speakers,
finding
how
to
record
the
podcast
in
each
part
of
the
edition,,
all
the
technical
part,
for
example,
configuring,
this
platform,,
which
I
suppose
organizing
the
chat,
has
not
been
an
easy
task.
Either,
all
that
work
and
from
behind
we
knew
face-to-
face
events,
getting
them.
We
come
from
all
that
work
beyond
the
fact
that
you
can
also
take
the
benefits
that
I
have
explained.
F
So,
from
my
point
of
view,
I
believe
that
these
are
the
three
faces,
not
of
a
community
and
depending
on
the
three
different
ways
of
contributing
or
collaborating
and
the
benefits
or
how
it
impacts
you
Well,.
It
depends
a
lot
on
which
of
them
you
feel
more
comfortable
with
or
when
you
feel
like
contributing.
I.
A
Totally
alcohol
or
with
you,
how
sad
that
you
received
the
three
points
you
mentioned
quite
well,
and
it's
something
I
like.
Adding
is
also
separate
when
I
feel
that
ignorance
can
be
on
both
sides,.
It
is
not
ignorance,,
which
is
good,.
I
know
that
there
is
something,,
but
it
does
not
interest.
Me,
and
I
also
want
to
learn
from
this,
and
the
other,
and
new
choices,
and
more
dangerous
in
which
I
do
not
know.
A
To
say
is
that
I
have
no
idea
that
there
is
more
and
sometimes
participating
in
these
communities,
helps
to
broaden
this
horizon.
Not
to
say
that
this
technology
did
not
exist,
whatever
it
is,
and
now
I
know
that
it
exists,.
But
I
can,
with
my
curiosity
and
desire.
of
learning,
to
navigate
technology
margins
and
many
times
we
realize
that
the
system
is
totally.
F
Every
time
we
evolve
faster
technologies,
change,
more
often
new
products,
new
frameworks
and
the
fact
of
being
By
participating
on
a
day-to-day
basis,.
The
community
can
make
you
realize
oysters,
well,,
maybe
because
we
continue
to
use
this,
I,
don't
ask
for
a
talk,
and
they
have
told
me
how
all
the
advantages
have
changed.
You
can
even
be
the
person
who
acts
as
a
change
agent.
in
your
environment
and
say
I'm
going
to
bring
this
look
at
it
guys
or
well.
F
If
it
also
says
a
lot,
I
think
that
from
his
point
of
view,,
he
also
does
not
recognize
what
you
were
mentioning,.
But
another
point
of
view
is
the
fact
that
what
that
person
says
is
that
he
is
going
to
want
to
continue
being
active,.
He
is
going
to
want
to
continue
informing,.
He
is
going
to
bring
here
what
I'm
going
to
learn.
F
Abroad,
we're
going
to
be
a
little
more
up-to-date
with
any
project
that
we're
going
to
tackle,
for
example,
if
you're
leading
a
project
or
participating,
because
we
don't
have
to
be
the
leaders
for
design
opinions
to
be
heard,.
What
technology
did
they
use,?
What
is
it?
the
best
framework
when
you
are
in
daily
contact
with
different
communities?
You
do
not
only
learn
from
that
technology
or
even
adopt
the
yolks,
but
we
know
that
you
are
curious.
You
are
active.
F
You
are
totally
wanting
to
know
more
and
you
have
learned
from
the
experience
of
all
those
people
from
the
environment
of
that
community.
Who,
in
the
end,
have
an
interest
in
common
and
you
are
sharing,,
as
we
said,
before,,
not
only
how
you
have
done
something
good,
I
have
learned.
This
is
new,,
but
hey,
I
had
this
project,
I
approached
it
like
this
and
I
failed
for
this,
and
for
this
and
For
this
reason,
something
changes.
And
now
we
have
focused
on
it:.
We
can
avoid
making
the
same
mistakes
and
arrive
at
the
solution.
Sooner,.
A
B
A
A
Decenter
and
that
it
is
the
technique
or
some
job,
someone
who
and
that
you
are
going
to
buy
it
a
bar,
a
particular
position,
is
always
useful.
Whatever
is
that
you
have
made
some
presentation,
I
do
not
know
yourself,
it
gives
you
an
idea,
not
only
this,
of
the
skills
of
the
person.
No,
yes,
no,
that
that
personality
is
defined
and
is
not
a
person
who
is
willing
to
offer
an
extra
and
also
on
that
side.
On
the.
C
Other
hand
well
said
beatriz
with
the
different
types
of
issues
in
which
one
can
contribute,
and
apart
from
that,
what
sometimes,
when
I
talk
to
people
who
want
to
get
into
this
world,
they
are
curious
people
who
usually
defend
people
as
they
are
analyzing
how
there
is
a
look
that
is
total,
so
what
I
usually
tell
them
is
that
this
is
more
than
anything
a
marathon.
It
is
not
really
a
race,
sometimes
Building,.
A
C
As
Beatriz
said,
put
a
piece
on,,
let's
say,
the
eyes
that
cost
us
a
while-
and
this
is
a
student,
programming
costs
a
while
to
learn,.
Let
's
say
what
we
are
for,:
how
not
to
learn
all
the
background
is
how
to
build
infrastructure
costs
a
while,
but
in
the
end
it's
all
that
time
they
in
the
end,
it's
time
well
invested
and
doing.
That
is,
and
apart
from
that,
the
networking
that
acs
is
to
meet
their
next
coworkers,
usually
well.
C
In
this
case,
there
are
usually
mixed
responses
because
it
depends
on
the
person.
Usually
most
of
us
fall
on
the
d
side.
Out
of
curiosity,
usually
it's
because
it's
something
we
started
using,
let's
say
we're
in
apps:
let's
say
we
work
with
a
technology
or
we
find
a
problem
that
we
have
and
we
find
a
tool
that
works
for
us,
and
sometimes
it
is.
C
That
the
tool
that
you,
what
a
good
contrast
that
follows
what
you
wanted,
does
not
completely
do
it,
then,
to
that
gap
that
I
am
going
to
find
how
this
could
be
different
way
or
sometimes
maybe
it
's,
not
necessarily
code.
You
have
to
find
an
easier
way
than
the
documentation.
You
found
it's
book
culture.
Sometimes
when
you're
making
the
opinion
a
new
technology,
that's
some
tutorial,
usually
don't
be
as
friendly
as
you
did.
Only
then
Sometimes,
it's
more
than
everything,.
It's.
C
C
Or
it
draws
your
attention
to
a
more
intrinsic
level
that
it
solves
something..
Who
is
looking
for
curiosity
to
know
so
I
think
there
are
several
ways
to
reach
him,
but
usually
I
think
that
he,,
since
they
give
us
all
more
satisfaction,,
is
to
find
a
project
that
solves
a
specific
problem,
and
that
is
why
you
usually
don't
stay
as
a
single
project,
so
let's
say
For
a
while.
They
contribute
something
that
contributes
to
others,
because
they
are
like
the
things
that
I
used
to
occupy
as
well
as
what
works
for
it.
F
Would
like
to
thank
you
So,
add
what
the
question
is
focused
on
from
the
point
of
view
that
if
we
are
looking
for
a
project
to
contribute
to
the
open
source
project,,
for
example,
we
are
using
cooper
net,.
It
is
in
our
day
to
day
there
is
a
file
that
we
do
not
have,.
We
can
contribute
it
or,
like
you
well.
You,
have
said
that
I
am
interested
in
artificial
intelligence,.
F
It
is
not
the
field
in
which
I
dedicate
myself
nor
in
the
department
that
I
am
working
in,,
but
I
would
like
to
learn
what
to
look
for
a
project
that
I
believe
is
within
the
reach
of
my
abilities,
because
I
am
not
interested,,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that
those
who
want
to
get
involved
and
well.
This
is
still
the
best
studying
programming
is
not
your
thing.
You
do
n't
need
to
contribute
only
with
the
area
of
contributing
code
to
a
project.
F
You
can
build
a
community,
for
example,
by
helping
to
organize
this
event.
There
is
a
lot
of
work
behind
make
it
easier
for
this
to
happen
and
puts
you
in
touch
with
a
lot
of
people
who
have
the
same
interests
as
you
with
technology,
and
you
can
get
to
know
them,,
which
is
another
point
of
view,.
So
all
those
who
have
the
inkling
that
they
would
like
to
be
in
contact
want
to
being
part
of
the
como.
But
the
best
thing
is
to
program
is
not
fully
my
thing.
F
A
On
the
other
hand,
this
emilio
soon
told
me
like
jose
on
paper
about
a
problem
and
that's
where
my
focus
goes
in
contributing
and
asking,
and
the
median
of
the
source
code
of
the
projects,
but
also
the
other
part
that
a
bit
because
I
mentioned
it
says
one
morning
this
to
prepare
a
resume.
Not
generally
this,
or
at
least
personally
I
have
seen
that
generating
a
story
in
your
resume.
This
can
be
very
good
news
that
I
want
to
be
a
specialist
in
information
technology
cloud.
A
Looking
for
own
technologies
to
tell
that
story,
as
you
are
the
expert
in
mining
machinery
so
and
the
advantage
you
have
in
open
source
projects.
This
is
there.
You
can
see
how
things
are
done.
It
can
be
the
tools
today
we
have
virtualization
and
all
the
technologies
of
cloud
practically
without
with
a
minimum
investment,
it
can
be
experiments
and
well,
these
technologies
without
disbursing
bread.
B
And
I
believe,
as
you
are
saying,
to
beatriz
adora
that
sometimes
we
are
also
very
given
to
focus
on
I
want
to
contribute
to
pensions,
and
then
that
means
that
I
am
going
to
program,
and
this
is
not
always
the
case,
many
projects
or
pensions
actually
need
help
and
other
things
as
well,.
Apart
from
people
who
are
coding,
for
example,
many
six
and
groups
of
subgroups
of
the
guarne
test
project
need,.
So
it
is
a
need,,
a
high
need
for
people
who
have
experience
as
scrum
master
or
for
those
projects.
B
You
need
people
who
may
have
the
facility
to
help
people
start
in
a
community
or
in
projects,
and
these
people
are
also
contributing.
As
Beatriz
said,
there
are
many
different
ways
to
do
your
bit
and
it
is
not
always
that
it
is
equivalent
to
creating
code
generating
technology
like
this
in
general,
by
the.
A
B
B
Sometimes
you
think
you
have
to
be
the
most
expert
person
in
the
language
in
which
the
project
is
written,
to
be
able
to
contribute,
and
that
is
not
always
the
case
then,
and
that
is
also
the
impostor
syndrome
that
I
think
is
not
being
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
It
is
something
real
when
one
is
starting
to
contribute.
B
You
think
you
have
to
be
an
expert
in
something,
and
you
think
you
don't
know
enough,
and
this
happens
a
lot
in
this
field,
because
there
are
so
many
technologies
and
knowledge,
and
sometimes
there
comes
a
point
where
it's
super
deep
and
you
're
not
necessarily
a
expert
in
all
areas.
So
sometimes
we
are
very
prone
to
stop
for
fear
of
not
knowing
enough
and
I
believe
that
the
best
way
to
leave
behind
this
type
of
barriers
that
we
set
ourselves
is
by
doing
it..
B
B
B
The
sic
of
yes
There
are
many
ways
to
contribute,
and
there
are
some
that
can
help
someone
who
is
starting
and
not
only
that
there
are
literally
meetings
for
people
who
are
starting
to
contribute
to
each
of
the
projects
or
pensions
and
a
lot
of
people.
Literally,
all
all
the
teams
are
completely
open
to
this
type
of
thing,
literally
in
hits
one
enters
guido
and
they
look
for
the
sites
and
beginnings
that
are
labeled.
B
B
If
you
are
strong,
for
example,,
there
is
a
page
called
real
square
neck
322
that
has
a
step-by-step
guide
on
how
to
start
building
and
with
all
the
questions
that
are
not
going
to
occur
to
them
or
are
going
to
is
the
one
that
people
ask
is
always
super
open,
and
that
is
ask
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
experience
as
I
expect
more,
but
whatever
I
say
I
have
no
experience
in
this
I.
Am
this
I
don't
feel
ready
to
program
in
go
or
whatever,
or
if
I
feel
ready,
I'm
a
pro
in
go,?
D
Thanks,
Irina,,
you
have
to
cheer
up,
well,
I'll,
give
you
both
questions
who
are
in
the
chat,
I,
don't
know
if
they
had
already
been
discussed.
Well
now
there
are
three.
The
first
says
they
consider
that
companies
are
aware
of
the
importance
of
the
presence
in
the
community,
both
for
the
acquisition
of
talent
and
to
maintain
curiosity,
knowledge
and
update
of
the
technical
teams.
D
B
Well,
I,
don't
really
know
the
occasional
system
in
El
Salvador.
They
are
mentioning
I
believe,
for
example,
in
my
case,
I
believe
that
what
I
observe
in
the
area
in
which
we
are
developing
is
that
perhaps
in
very
personal
composing,
there
is
a
great
weight,
and
not
necessarily
in
the
education
system,,
for
example,
in
weight
as
to
what,
if
one
feels
passionate
about
something,,
they
will
not
learn
and
many
times
as
today.
B
We
can
see
that
there
are
many
certifications
and
many
certification
programs
that
are
not
university
programs
that
are
actually
much
cheaper
than
what
would
come
to
a
more
formal
education
system..
I
think
that
in
many
cases
many
companies
are
available
and
do
not
want
to
hire
people
who
have
not
necessarily
passed
for
something
like
that,,
but
rather
that
they
have
experience
in
certain
areas
or
that
they
have
certifications.
That
prove
that
experience
and
I
think
that
this
is
super
valid,.
It
is
very
valid
and
much
more
accessible
for
people.
B
I
think
that
in
terms
of
cloud
and
horns,,
etc.,
focus
a
little
more
on
certifications.
It
can
be
much
more
affordable
and
useful
for
people,.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
there
is
not
necessarily
one
that
fits,
being
pigeonholed
in
the
universities
of
some
country,,
be
it
El,
Salvador
or
Costa
Rica,,
and
sometimes
there
are
also
many
universities
in
that
country.
At.
A
The
other
hand
can
share
my
experience
in
Guadalajara
that
we
had
when
we
started
the
openstack
community
and
in
guadalajara
the
ecosystem.
If
there
were
few
communities,
in
fact,
there
was
a
space
that
was
nice.
Thank
you.
Where
some
communities
was
a
space
donated
by
people
so
that
the
communities
say
they
will
forge
themselves
which
made
a
good
niche.
No,
then
it
is
safe
as
the
egg
and
the
chicken
I
don't
want
several
companies
to
set
up
facilities
and
grow
and
expand
operations
in
the
area,
but
companies
also
have
to
invest
where
there
is
talent.
A
So
I
can't
open
offices
where
there
are
no
talents
in
the
region,
so
you
have
to
show
that
there
is
talent
and
that
there
are
people
interested.
So
for
us
it
was
very
good
to
start
creating
different
communities
and
there
were
those
of
aito.
They
left
us
the
dot
net
programming
languages
and
suddenly
there
were
other
community
leaders
who
were
encouraged
and
began
to
open
more
specific
communities
in
other
areas
and
By
opening
up
more
communities
and
showing
that
there
is
more
talent,.
A
There
began
to
be
more
companies
that
do
operations
and
expand
their
operations
in
Guajará,,
so
we
won't
have
numbers,,
but
I
think
that
was
very
good,
yes,.
It
was
very
heavy,.
It
has
been
very
heavy
for
many
people
to
start
these
projects.,
but
I
think
that
if
our
formula
is
replicated
in
El
Salvador,,
it
could
be
very,
very
feasible
for
many
international
companies
to
open
operations.
D
F
F
Wondering
about
this
because
today
it
is
something
that
you
want
to
do.
No,
what
level?
Don't
you
don't
get
more
than
there
is
no
level
required
in
the
end,
it's
really
wanting
and
dedication,
and
they
will
welcome
you
with
open
arms
and
a
community
in
the
end,
consists
of
leading
a
community
is
being
one
of
those
three
sides
of
the
coin.
F
That
I
was
saying
at
the
beginning
of
the
one
in
the
middle
being
able
to
put
in
contact
those
who
have
experience
to
share
and
those
who
are
willing
to
listen
to
the
first
visit,
also
because
in
the
end,
it
is
not
that
both
sides
of
the
said
well,
one
has
to
share
his
experience,
and
the
other
comes
just
to
listen.
You
are
also
sharing
and
you
are
exposing
your
project.
F
F
We
contribute
in
different
areas
and
you
will
be
able
to
contribute
and
you
will
be
able
to
lead
this
community
I
think
the
quiz
here
is
to
lead
a
community
is
to
put
in
contact
all
those
who
want
to
be
part
of
them
and
keep
it
alive.
Keep
it
alive,
search
for
speakers
search
for
speakers
search,
good
topics.
Look
for
talks
be
very
up
to
date
on
what
is
next.
What
is
interesting,
and
anyone
who
wants
to
do
it
I
think
they
can
do
it.
A
Yes,
I
think
we
have
reached
a
point
where
a
very
pragmatic
world
has
been
made.
I
do
n't
know
people
have
opened
up,
and
especially
in
the
part
of
open
source,.
What
is
interesting
is
that
it
contributes
in
some
other
ways,.
A
lot
of
value
is
given
to
diversity,
and
this
is
not
always
understood,.
It
is
not
always
that
we
are
not
completely
from
a
native
language
with
English,,
so
there
is
a
lot
of
openness,
I.
Think
that
in
this
part
of
the
communities
and
cody
berto,
they
are
not
interested
in
titles.
A
You
can
have
a
very
elaborate
title
in
your
company.
In
the
end,
you
have
to
demonstrate
with
code.
You
have
to
demonstrate
with
facts
your
involvement,
your
level
of
commitment
that
you
have
with
the
project.
So
what
What
we
see
now,,
sometimes
we
don't
put
up
the
barriers
ourselves,,
that's
how
it.
D
D
A
D
F
F
madrid,,
which
is
the
cnc
efe
that
we
have
here
locally
and
the
origin,
so
to
speak,
could
have
arisen
from
the
year
2014,,
which
was
when
we
started
the
first
community
that
docker
started
with
talks
of
about
20-30
people
very
little.
By
little
it
went
away
starting
more
people,
and
what
we
began
to
see
is
that,
with
the
evolution
of
technology,
well,,
the
talks
began
to
be
more
than
two
that
began
to
be
more
about
cuber
nets
and
then,
well,,
with
everything
that
is,
the
cow
net
ecosystem
and
So.
F
In
the
end,
this
ended
up
evolving
because
of
the
same
people
who
were
leading
the
docker
community,.
We
decided
to
form
another
community
in
the
cnt,
in
this
case
that
could
accommodate
the
need
that
we
were
seeing
in
our
community.
In
the
end,
because
the
speakers
were
what
people
were
looking
for,
When
I
came
to
see
what
the
talks
had
to
talk.
F
About,
all
the
people
that
I
was
participating
in,
a
much
broader
ecosystem,
I
was
no
longer
focused
on
what
then,
currently,
we
do
maintain
both,,
but
the
one
that
we
have
the
most
is
the
decade
of
Tiff
Madrid
in
the
The.
Video
also
commented
on
how,
with
this
some
dates-
and
it
is
low,
but
it
is
how
many
members
we
currently
have,
and
we
have
the
communities
or
half
so
with
the
first
one,
starting
taking
into
account
that
we
started
in
2014,
which
are
many
years.
F
B
Of
course,
compared
to
that
of
madrid,
we
are
one
fairly
recent
community.
We
started
working
in
the
organization
last
year
and
we
haven't
had
so
many
events,
yet
anything
I'm,
adding
the
qr
codes
in
case
you
are
interested
in
being
part
of
our
community
to
attend,
which
is
our
number
1
means
of
communication
and
also
the
Any
code
of
science.
We
are
one
of
the
official
science
communities
in
this
case
for
Costa
Rica,
so
there
we
will
be
posting
the
next
events.
B
As
for
us,
just
as
normal
for
a
community,
we
focus
a
lot
on
networking
among
ourselves,
sharing
knowledge
through
talks
workshops
in
the
community,
in
which
we
basically
make
sure
that
the
organization
is
also
like
a
team
work.
So
it
is
not
simply
the
organizers
avoiding
that
talks
are
going
to
be
given,
but
we
actually
even
do
votes
during.
A
B
Meetings
that
we
do,
but
we
are
preparing
events,
Joint
ventures
with
other
communities
in
the
country,
and
we
also
have
several
other
initiatives
such
as
working
with
communities
in
the
region,
such
as
the
El
Salvador
community
and
many
others,
and
making
sure
to
develop
Latin
American
talent,
so
that
we
can
grow
and
see
more
participation
in
global
events
like
that,
keepcon
etc.
so.
We
are
really
trying
to
apply
what
we
have
learned
from
communities
in
semis
in
the
past
and
to
generate
community
and
collaboration
with
the.
A
E
A
D
To
conclude:
well,
we
also
have
a
bit
of
the
experience
of
the
community
of
Guadalajara.
We
also
have
it
summarized
in
a
video
due
to
time
and
also
because
I
don't
know
if
it
will
really
be
heard.
I
am
going
to
leave
you.
The
two
videos
Those
from
Madrid
and
Mexico
on
the
YouTube
channel,
will
be
able.