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A
Hey
Victor
Olga:
how
are
you
good
good
enjoying
the
summer
I
think
I
think
most
people
have
marked
and
I
see
a
lot
of
people
that
are
marked
again
because
no
yeah,
that's
maybe
why
yeah,
probably
we're
gonna
have
a
mini
audience
today.
So
let's
wait
a
couple
of
minutes
and
let's
see
when
I've
joined.
A
Let
me
check
I,
don't
think
so.
I
don't
see
any
anyone
listed
on
events.
A
A
So,
in
my
case,
I
was
just
reading
about
unique
kernels
when
there's
an
article
about
comparing
unicorns
with
containers.
So
I
would
like
to
share
your
ideas,
and
what
do
you
think
about,
especially
because
we
have
a
an
issue
which
would
be
related
with
this
particular
technology,
so
I
just
wanna
to
bring
this
these
two
to
the
table
regarding
the
bats.
A
We
have
listed
all
of
them
before
we
have
the
open
source
Summit
in
Spain
DTW
and
NWC
America's
Texas,
UK,
okay,
open
compute
I
think
that
we
have
others.
D
A
Are
knowledge
is
here
so,
which
are?
The
18,
is
a
11
developer
forum.
A
Developer
interesting
form
and
I
think
that's
the
name
so
which,
if
I
remember
correctly
it's
going
to
be
in
somewhere
in
Europe,
I
guess
in
Portugal.
A
A
So
if
you
have
anyone
and
you
rather
that
you
want
to
including
this
particular
list
feel
free
to
travel.
A
Maybe
that's
something
good
any
issues
we
have
are
several
and
we
have
some
proposals
for
best
practices.
A
For
for
my
case,
one
of
the
one
of
the
that
I
consider
that
is
pretty
close
to
or
has
has
a
lot
of,
discussion
and
information
is.
A
Is
this
one
is
this
proposal?
I
guess
has
been
discussed
if
you're
not
familiar
with
this
one,
the
main
idea
is
to
or
the
postal
is
to
suggest,
to
have
one
single
process,
category
process
type
whatever
that
you
want
to
call
it
per
container.
A
So
so
so
the
question
is
specifically
Gregory.
One
of
the
things
that
he
mentioned
against
this
particular
best
practice
is
some
performance
impact.
So
you,
if
you're,
not
using
if
you,
if
you
use
this
particular
best
practice,
your
performance
can
be
impacted.
So
I
try
to
collect
all
the
information
early
with
these.
So
in
some
of
the
cases
they
suggest
to
use
that
process
manager.
A
If
you
need
to
run
multiple
things
in
a
single
container
and
that's
because
you
can
have
a
site
pump
effect,
especially
to
to
manage
properly
the
signals
in
the
container.
A
So
that's
why
I
I
like
to
bring
this
particular
topic
about
unicorns.
So
I
was
reading
this
article
about
the
unicorns
pros
and
counseling,
comparing
especially
with
containers.
So
so.
Well
it
definitely.
You
are
familiar
with
the
containers
like
and
when
they,
where
it
benefits
like
you,
are
sharing
the
kernel,
so
so
the
with
I,
first
understanding
unique
kernels
are
designed
to
have
their
own,
but
through
the
application
you
are
minimizing
and
the
the
kernels
users
like
that
you're
creating
like
a
small
spiritual
machine.
A
A
But
in
this
in
this
automatically
a
little
bit
but
is
not
designed
to
run
multiple
process,
so
I
don't
know
if
I
can
include
this
particular
topic
into
this.
This
practice-
probably
maybe
it's.
This
is
a
little
bit
related,
but
maybe
we
have
to
change
the
title
to
expand
it
to
consider
unicorn
out
or
not
only
containers,
so
yeah.
A
A
C
I
mean
I'm
not
aware
we're
doing
anything
in
F5
with
uni
kernels,
but
I
can
I
want
to
Circle
back
with
my
with
our
Dev
team
to
to
see,
but
it's
I
yeah
I
need
to
do
more
research
on
it.
A
Yeah
and
that's
a
great
a
good
point,
because
yeah
probably
the
way
to
create
these
unicorns
are
very,
very
restricted.
Probably
there
are
not
many
libraries
like
I
know
that
we
have
some
tools
that
were
mentioned
in
a
couple
of
like
Frameworks
to
create
like
a
like
yeah,
unique
Mirage
or
all
of
these,
and
probably
those
are
good
for
certain
type
of
applications.
But
probably
that's
right,
like
I've
made
for
TN
apps
are
not
very
mature
enough
or
no
one
has
been
experiencing
with
these
ones.
A
And
the
other
thing
is
like
I'm,
not
sure
it
in
terms
like
orchestrator
I
I.
You
know
at
first
I,
remember,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
have
to
do
something
in
your
kubernetes,
for
example,
to
support
uni
kernels
is
not
like
a
smooth
transition.
I
guess.
A
But
yeah
good
point,
rich
I
will
I
will
try
to
look
for
anything
in
in
the
web.
C
A
A
I
was
I
was
I,
was
checking
in
the
nephew
slack
channel.
Well,
they
are
using
KPD,
and
so
these
Google,
like
a
project
for
for
managing
packages
and
everything
and
that's
pretty
much
what
nephew
uses
in
their
workload.
A
So
also
a
lot
in
a
I
mean
if
you're
not
I
mean
what
what
is
a
kpt
package.
It's
basically
it's
a
bundle
of
several
Community
Resources.
A
A
So
again,
I
guess
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
acrylic
up
best
practice
for
for
that,
it
is
something
that
they
can
still
not
identify
like
a
dependencies
and
how
connect
all
the
dependencies
so
and
also
given
that
nephew
is
going
to
use
that
technology.
So
probably,
if
you
still
relying
the
same,
like
I
mean
I
can
provide
a
few
examples
of
Matthew
like.
A
So,
as
you
can
see,
they
have
some
some
regular
q,
a
resources
like
just
put
it
in
a
single
folder
with
a
this.
It
is.
D
A
Out
of
data
file,
or
you
can
apply
several
things
So
eventually,
the
idea
is
probably
have
the
CNF,
probably
defining
in
here,
like
not
the
full
CNF,
but
also
the
operators
and
have
it
some
definitions.
A
So
maybe
it's
not
something
that
we
have
to
address
right
now,
but
eventually
we
can
start
consider
like
that.
D
D
A
Well,
that's
another
possibility
regarding
possible
possible
proposal
for
best
practices.
A
A
Another
Elite
code
joins
with
a
you
know,
because
you
have
any
any
particular
topic
that
you
want
to
discuss,
or
maybe
we
can
finalize.
B
A
Okay,
by
the
way
I
was
talking
before
about
well,
if
you
remember
like
we
have
this
this
issue,
we
have
been
for
a
while
these
cars
in
the
the
alternative
to
propose
a
best
practice
for
having
a
single
process,
category
of
type
for
for
container
I.
Don't
know
if
you
remember
this
particular
issue
and
and
I
was
reading
the
the
option
to
to
bring
to
the
table.
Unicorns
and
Rich
was
making
a
good
point.
A
B
Not
a
lot
but
I
will
try
to
look
into
it.
A
Yeah,
it
would
be
nice
if
we
find
find
this
this
use
case.
An
old
unicorns
has
a
lot
of
benefits
and
improvements
in
terms
of
like
speed
and
and
price.
So,
but
as
you,
you
can
have
someone.
B
Yeah
that
makes
sense
I
remember
that
I
don't
know
what
it
was
a
year
ago
or
something
that
it
was
a
hotter
topic.
I
haven't
really
heard
anyone
talking
about
unicorners
lately,
but
again,
I'll
try
to
look
into
it.
A
Okay,
that's
fine
I
need
if
no
one
is
using
any
cannot
for
14
apps,
that's
fine.
Also.
Maybe
there
is
something
that
there
is.
There
is
some
reasoning
behind
the
modules
smart
technology.
A
Okay,
well,
that's
pretty
much.
I
was
just
also
mentioning
about
the
two
events
that,
for
some
reason,
we
haven't
put
the
dates
on
those
events
which
are
the
NF
developer
and
testing
form,
which
I
guess
is
going
to
be
hybrid
and
the
other.
The
other
one
which
not
defined
the
specific
dates
are
the
nephew
we're
going
to
have
like
a
minute
Summit
in
the
in
Sunnyvale
ending
off
August
or
13
September.
A
That's
that
they
they
have
three
particular
dates,
but
they
haven't
defined
exactly
when
it's
meant
to
happen
and
that's
pretty
much
that
I
have
so
well
thanks.
Anyone
for
attending-
and
we
will
see
you
next
week.