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I've
dropped
a
link
to
the
meeting
notes,
Zoom
chat.
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So,
let's
start
it
like
this,
so
this
is
the
CNF
working
group
we
make
weekly
I
know.
Folks,
here
already
know
this
important
thing.
This
call
has
been
recorded
and
we
upload
the
videos
to
YouTube.
D
We
actually
had
for
some
reason
the
last
video
got
pulled
by
YouTube
from
the
last
session,
which
is
kind
of
frustrating.
It
was
a
good
session.
Maybe
it
was
the
one
to
four
but
anyways.
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D
So
there's
a
Cloud
native
focused
virtual
conference,
the
Telecom
TVs,
putting
on
in
September
it's
probably
an
interesting
one
for
us
and
to
have
some
folks
attending
and
maybe
pull
in
some
information
back
from
there.
D
Be
good
if
we
can
get
directly
engaged
the
working
group,
maybe
for
some
future
ones.
If
we
can
see
it
submit
cfps.
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C
Yeah,
basically
Lucy
sandals
form
to
go
for
the
particular
week,
one
of
the
weeks
just
making
conflict
with
they
want
to
Summit.
So
I
guess
so.
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
if
she's
going
to
change
the
options.
But
if
I
remember
correctly,
it's
like
since
it's
September,
so
I
don't
know
if
it
is
September
11
or
something
like
that.
C
I
was
just
looking
for
the
email
where
she
was
making
on
the
form
for
both,
but
yeah
he's
he's
like
the
first
week
and
maybe
the
second
week
of
September,
but
we
are
still
designing,
which
we
played.
C
The
only
thing
that
is
not
meant
to
change
probably
is
going
to
be
the
location
which
is
in
the
Google
offices,
Sunnyvale.
D
Well,
we've
we
were
talking
about
before
doing
a
I
and
I
guess
we
submitted
a
cfp
actually
for
highlighting
best
practices
from
an
fio
and
I
know
that
we're
wanting
to
look
at
things
that
we
could
pull
into
the
working
group
around
deployment
get
Ops
patterns
configuration
best
practices
that
are
in
kpt
and
stuff,
so
it
might
be.
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D
D
Since
we
have
the
cloud
native
Telco,
Day,
collidicated
events
now
officially
happening,
we
haven't
been
promoting
or
trying
to
organize
the
Telco
Community
event
after
worked
partly
because
we're
playing
a
little
ketchup
on
the
cloud
of
Telco
day,
we
thought
it
wasn't
happening
and
then
it
got
enough
going
that
they
decided
to
make
it
happen.
So
we
needed
to
focus
on
getting
that
together.
The
program
committee
and
cfps
and
everything
else.
D
What
do
you
think
as
far
as
trying
to
have
anything
else
for
this
event,
I
feel
like
there
was
a
lot
more
happening
and
people
wanting
to
do
more
in
the
EU.
So
that's
partly
why
we
push
for
the
community
event.
There
was
an
overflow
people
couldn't
sign
up
for
kubecon,
and
that
sort
of
thing
do
we
need
to.
Is
there
a
big
desire
to
have
a
cloud
native
Telco
Community
in
the
afternoon,
like
we
had
before.
C
From
my
perspective
was
a
really
good
success,
I
mean
but
yeah
not
happening
in
Europe
in
Europe,
so
I
don't
know,
but
it's
going
to
be
the
same
the
same,
but
but
maybe
we
can
do
a
starting
a
survey
in
the
Dwight
Channel
and
try
to
collect
some
some
feedback
from
from
there.
Maybe
I
don't
know.
D
A
Ask
a
question:
Taylor,
like
I
I,
didn't
I
didn't
attend
EU,
so
I
mean
generally.
What
would
you
see
these
Community
I
mean
I,
get
it
I'm,
just
wondering
like
kind
of
how
it
might
be
used?
Is
it
like
kind
of
okay
we're
all
we're
actually
here
physically
together,
let's
do
some
of
the
work
that
we
typically
do,
or
would
you
see
it
just
being
additional
topics
that
would
be
outside
of
like
the
cloud
native
Telco
day,
I
mean
I
realize
that
the
cloud
native
talcade
is
a
little.
A
It's
kind
of
you
know
it's
a
set
of
talks
where
the
community
is
maybe
more
discussions.
Is
that
kind
of
the
thinking.
A
D
So
a
little
bit
less
structured,
so
the
cloud
native
Telco
day
is
that
just
structured
presentations
set
times
everybody
needs
to
get
done
within
those
times
and
move
off
the
stage
for
the
community.
D
You
know
we
could
set
up
whatever,
but
we
did
have
a
amount
of
time
set
for
what
was
supposed
to
be
lightning
talks
like
five
minute
type
talks
so
you're
just
going
through,
and
then
we
had
a
good
amount
of
the
time
that
was
just
open
discussion
which
could
dig
into
it
one
topic:
one
of
them
was
a
networking
related
topic
that
came
out
of
Howard
DNS
talking
about
the
issues
with
the
current
networking
and
kubernetes,
so
that
kind
of
dug
into
some
things.
C
I
think
the
other.
The
other
good
thing
that
we
have
in
the
Gathering
event
was
like.
They
pretend
to
hear
from
project
leads
about
projects
like
a
Silva
and
nephew,
and
they
did
a
quick
overview
and
they
were
like
I
I,
don't
know
what
is
the
name
of
those
stations
like
ask
me
anything
about,
and
this
particular
care
about
on
Silva
and
nephiu,
so
it
was
nothing
prepared
for
them,
so
people
were
I
just
asking
general
questions
requirements
more
more
close
discussion
about
those
things,
I
think
so
that's
that
was
a
good
plus.
A
Yeah
I
think
there's
I
mean
I
guess
without
doing
too
much
thinking,
I'm
sure,
there's
a
number
of
you
know
potential
interesting
discussions
that
could
be
part
of
that
Community
Gathering
so
and
to
your
point,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
I.
A
Almost
in
my
head,
think
you
know
all
these
different
initiative,
initiatives
and
sort
of
I
don't
want
to
call
it
aligning
them,
but
you
know
just
kind
of
understanding
what
everyone's
doing
and
what,
where
you
know,
because
there's
no
shortage
of
different
efforts
and
just
kind
of
understanding
how
they
relate
to
each
other.
A
So
there
is
a
implicit,
some
kind
of
relationship
between
them.
It
would
be
good
to
sort
of
sound
out
some
of
that
and
how
you
know.
In
other
words,
basically,
how
do
you
help
each
other
in
your
different
objectives?
You
know
how
do
you,
how
do
you
help
align
that.
C
A
No
I
know
I
mean
that
you
know
and
and
I'm
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
Sidetrack
the
conversation,
but
as
an
example
I
mean,
if
you
read,
you
know,
Selva
and
I
talk
about
a
CNF
certification.
Then
you
kind
of
go.
Oh
there's
another
place
to
go
certify,
whereas
but
they're
pointing
to
the
CNF
certification
CNF
test
Suite
as
an
example.
So
then
you
go
well.
You
know.
How
can
you
know?
Does
a
discussion
in
the
community
maybe
help?
How
do
we
again?
A
You
know
leverage
some
of
the
things
that
we
do
have
so
you're,
not
you
know
avoiding
to
repeat
or
redo
things,
I
think
that
could
be
it
and
I'm
not
saying
that's
the
only
topic,
but
it
could
be
certainly
useful
to
try
to
see
how
all
of
these
things
are
are
fitting
and
how
we
can
help
each
other
right,
because
I
mean
at
some
point.
A
How
do
we
leverage
stuff
that's
being
done
already
within
the
open
source
community
right
like,
for
example,
pointing
to
the
CNF
certification
saying
you
know,
that's
a
prerequisite.
You
know
retaining
conformance
program
within
nepheo
Mike,
you
know
first,
for
cnfs
could
be
leveraging
what
the
cncf
is
offering
today.
I
mean
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
would
be
interesting
to
have
a
conversation
around
I
guess.
A
Yeah
so
I
guess
the
answer
is
yes
Taylor.
It
could
be
interesting,
I,
don't
know
how
many
other
people
you
know
who
my
Matrix
is
intending
to
participate
working,
I'm
actually
meeting
this
week
with
Sam
from
engineering
to
start
talking
to
basically
formulate
our
submission.
But
you
know
we
may
have
some
additional
attendees
as
well,
so
I
mean
there
probably
will
be
a
vendor,
that's
part
of
those
conversations
or
that
community
meeting.
If
there
is
one.
D
All
right,
so
we
you
know
I'm
I'm,
asking
now
so
that
we
can
start
really
thinking
about
it.
We
didn't
have
much
response
to
the
form
that
we
put
out
about
the
Togo
Gathering.
D
We
were
sending
it
out
to
quite
a
few
places
for
a
few
weeks
trying
to
get
response
and
interest
for
that,
but
there
was
very
little
response
and
then
we
just
stopped
I
I.
Think
in
fact
the
form
might
be
taken
down
now
because
of
we
switched
to
focus
on
cloud
native
Telco
day.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
a
lot
of
people
there.
D
D
We
get
more
Focus
from
kubecon
and
everything
else,
so
I
think
that
could
even
if
we're
going
to
have
a
Telco
Gathering,
it's
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
successful.
The
other
part,
though,
is
doing
the
Telco
Gathering
is
means
it's
all
on
Us
by
us,
I
mean
not
kubecon,
so
you
know
Victor
helped
a
little
bit
and
and
Tom
with
when
we
were
talking
about
this
is
a
working
group.
So
what
is
a
format
we
want,
but
the
idea
for
the
Gathering
is
completely
up
to
us.
D
We
don't
have
the
Linux,
Foundation
event
team
or
anything
else.
Last
time
Volk
sponsored
it.
We
found
the
location
doing
research
figuring
out
like
where
can
we
be
what's
available?
What's
large
enough?
What's
within
a
reasonable
walking
distance?
So
we'd
need
to
do
the
same
thing.
If
it's
something
where
people
are
going
to
have
to
drive
in
Chicago
I
I
think
it
would
be
more
likely
to
be
a
I'll
just
call
it
a
failure
that
people
are
going
to
go.
We
were
able
to
find
something
where
we
had
a
large
group.
D
In
fact,
it
was
overflow
Oliver
at
the
Gathering
in
EU.
More
than
what
we
allocated
for
luckily,
the
place
was
fine
with
helping
with
that,
but
we'd
need
to
do
the
same
thing
so
I'd
I'd
want
to
see
like
do.
We
have
a
very
strong
interest
if,
if
we're
going
to
put
the
effort
out
and
then
does
anyone
want
to
help
with
that
effort,
whether
it's
you
know
helping
some
of
the
costs,
helping
someone
finding
places
whatever
we
want
to
do
to
make
that
happen,.
A
A
Did
you
were
you
able
to
sort
of
estimate
that
you
were
going
to
have
that
kind
of
it
sounds
like
the
answer
is
no,
but
my
question
is
just
for
for
helping
me
did
we
were
we
able
to
estimate
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
high
turnout,
in
other
words,
I
guess
right
now,
you're
saying
that
what
we've
and
I'm
I'm
trying
to
remember
which
male
this
was
or
where,
where
you
were
announcing
but
I,
probably
did
not
respond
to
the
you
know
the
the
community
events.
A
You
know
survey
I'm
guilty,
but
you
know
my
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand.
Where
do
we
generate
the
interest
from
right?
Because
this
group
is
fairly
small,
you
know
and
it
sounds
like
there's
a
fair
amount
of
work,
but
where
would
we
generate
that
interest
for
the
community?
Gathering
I
mean
CNF
working
group.
What
are
the
other
places
where
we
could
generate
interest.
D
So
we
had
a
I
guess
going
back
to
answer
the
first
part
we
had
enough
response
on
the
forms,
the
Google
form
that
we
put
out
to
indicate
that
we,
we
would
have
a
large
enough
group
to
make
it
an
interesting
Gathering.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
Victor
and,
and
you
Oliver
then
I'll
just
say:
let's
just
go
mate
for
lunch.
D
A
D
D
And
you
know
the
other
part
would
be.
You
know
Oliver
if,
if
you
posted
on
your
LinkedIn
and
your
Twitter
yeah-
and
we
get
other
people
to
do
this,
Victor
is
you
know,
done
a
lot
of
retweets
and
I
know
Lucina
retweets
for
other
folks,
you've,
probably
seen
even
for
Matrix
posting
stuff,
so
that
sort
of
thing
would
get
it.
But
you
know
we
need
to
Market
it
wherever
you
think.
If
you
here's
a
place
to
Market
at
Oliver,
then
then
we
do
it.
Yeah.
A
No
and
I
and
I'm
mainly
trying
to
you
know
just
for
my
get
my
head
around.
You
know,
like
I,
mean
it's
summertime
right
now,
you
know.
Are
people
thinking
currently
right
now
about
you
know,
Cube
I
mean
they
should
be
right,
but
I
mean
generally
speaking,
I.
Guess
people
start
thinking
seriously
about
when
they're
all
coming
back
from
vacation.
So
it
sounds
like
we
went
out
with
this.
A
You
know
in
good
time,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
didn't
get
response,
not
if
the
reason
why
people
didn't
respond
was
not
because
they're
not
interested,
but
it's
just
you
know
it's
so
far
away
and
then
they've
kind
of
just
forgotten
about
it.
You
know
what
I
mean.
D
One
thought
that
I
have
and
I'm
I
guess
you
know
everyone
can
say
what
their
experience
is.
I've,
seen
more
response
from
the
EU
Telco
related
orgs
vendors,
everybody
then
I
have
from
those
in
Americus,
okay,
just
in
general
I
mean
like
I.
You
know
you
look
at
Telecom,
TV,
there's
a
lot
of
it,
but
that's
not
like
real,
visible
I'm
saying
to
conversations
like
what
we're
having.
But
whenever
we
did
a?
U
like
the
silver
stuff
that
was
mentioned
and
then
having
these
good
silver
conversations.
D
It
was
a
ton
of
people
from
different
groups
like
orange
and
other
places.
Just
did
that
you
know,
and
then
we
had
a
bunch
of
other
groups
that
came
in
and
you
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
that's
about,
but
that's
just
what
I've
I've
seen
and
I
don't
know
if
we're
posting
to
the
wrong
places.
Maybe
you
know
people?
D
Are
there
I'd
like
to
get
all
the
there's
a
lot
of
America's
space,
Telco
companies
that
are
involved
with
elephant
and
we
are
trying
to
increase
by
the
way
Oliver
like
direct
some
direct
collaboration
on
the
elephant?
We've
been
having
more
conversation,
questions
that,
if
there's
a
place
where
they
are,
you
know,
and
we
can
get
it
there
in
front
of
these.
B
A
I
mean
my
guess,
is
yeah
I
think
you
yeah
I,
think
you,
you
know
I
think
we've
hit
a
lot
of
the
the
places
that
I
would
you
know,
at
least
for
me:
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
have
any
new
any
idea?
Oh,
how
did
you
not
post
here?
You
know
what
I
mean
it's
not
that
I'm.
It
wasn't
any
critique
either
I
just
I'm
just
trying
to
get
my
head
around
whether
or
not
you
know
visits.
A
Is
it
because
it
was
too
early
or
you
know,
because
most
people
don't
you
know
like
like
to
be
given
plenty
of
time
right
but
but
it
may
have
just
it
may
be
that
people
it
was
too
far
out
I,
don't
know,
and
then
the
other
thing
is
to
your
I
think
what
you
just
mentioned.
You
know:
if
we
could,
we
potentially
do
it
again
and
if
we
did
then
I
think
maybe
coordinating
where
we
actually
do
help.
You
know
specific,
you
know,
companies
can
help.
A
Retweet
re,
you
know
re-share,
certainly
I
know
Matrix
would
be
happy
to
do
that.
Normally
I
just
got
to
get
out
in
front
of
it
and
make
sure
that
people
know
it's
coming
and
then
they
can
work
on
it,
but
yeah
all
right
so
I
mean
and
that's
gonna.
That's
basically
gonna
answer
the
question
whether
or
not
we
there's
enough
interest
right
because
otherwise
it's
you
know
we're
not
going
to
grab
the
interest
strictly
from
people.
This
call
that's
not
going
to
be
enough
to
to
motivate
a
community
Gathering.
A
Then
it's
just
a
tailor
to
seeing
a
Victor
or
whatever,
let's
meet
up
for
coffee
afterwards
and
go
that
route
yeah.
D
D
It
worked
out
really
well
with
the
co-working
space
that
we
found
to
do
afternoon,
because
then
you
know
they're
definitely
going
to
be
there
time
wise.
But
how
do
you
do
a
morning
one,
and
and
is
that
going
to
be
convenient
for
people
to
go
off
of
the
conference
area
and
then
come
back
and
sign
in
or
whatever
so
we
got
to
figure
that
out.
The
second
thing
is
just
cost
on
this,
so
there's
there's
a
cost
for
the
Gathering
and
then
there's
the
time
to
help
with
things.
D
If,
if
you
know
we
can
get
some
commitment
from
some
folks
to
help
with
whatever
marketing
it
trying
to
find
a
location
just
whatever
all
the
logistics
are
and
then
cost
so
cost
and
EU
was
I,
think
it
was
I
I,
don't
remember
the
exact,
but
it
all
of
this
would
be
under
a
grand
for
the
total.
If
we're
talking
like
space
and
we,
we
got
I
drink
tickets
or
whatever
for
people
to
use,
you
know
you
could
use
it
on
coffee
or
whatever
they
had
wine,
whatever
they
had.
D
So
this
would
be
kind
of
like
your
you're
after
evening
type
event
as
well.
That's
where
we're
trying
to
make
it
where
it
made
it
a
little
bit
more
informal
and
loosen
things
up
and
the
conversations
I
I
think
that
format
worked
well
like
Victor
was
singing
as
well,
so
anyways,
that's
what
we'd
be
looking
at.
We
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
be
in
Chicago,
but
I
don't
think
we're
talking
about
this
is
going
to
be
five
or
ten
thousand.
B
D
Little
bit
different
from
you
know
this
I,
we
can't
say
this
is
the
same
thing
as
sponsoring
the
Cloud
native
Telco
day,
which
is
going
to
get
you
know.
You're
gonna
have
sponsors
that
are
going
to
be
shown
on
like
different
websites
and
related
to
kubecon,
and
so
when
things
come
up
on
that
and
of
course
that's
one
of
those
costs
one.
But
you
get
a
lot
of
other
benefits
there,
which
are
still
one,
of
course,
anyways
we'll.
D
Maybe
look
in
and
and
take
a
a
little
bit
of
look
and
and
see
what
we
think
that
Gathering
could
be,
and
maybe
we
find
out
more
about
if
it's
the
half
day
Telco
is
in
the
morning
or
afternoon.
If
we
can
figure
that
out,
I
think
we
should
move
on,
though
conversations
and
then
come
back
to
this
and
y'all.
Just
maybe
Oliver
go
think
about
it
internally
and
if
talk
to
some
thugs,
if
we
can
get
some
interest
or
then
we'll
move
forward
on
it
same
for
you
Victor.
D
If,
if
you
can
think
of
somebody's
either
Market
or
gather
some
interest,
or
we
need
to
post
sure
sure
what
okay
so
do,
we
need
to
close
this?
What
is
247?
Oh.
C
I,
just
just
put
it
because
someone
was
making
a
comment.
Probably
he
was
trying
to
get.
Maybe
he
was
trying
to
work
on
one
of
the
on
this
particular
issue.
Oh
so
I
guess
I
guess
he
was
mentioning
that
everything
has
been
moved
so
Maybe.
B
B
B
B
C
D
C
On
the
next,
the
next
thing
well,
last
last
week,
I
was
reading
about
one
article
about
comparing
unique
journals
with
containers
and
one
of
the
major
things
that
captured
my
attention
was
the
unicorn
of
one
of
the
advantages
that
you
can
do,
or
just
focus
to
one
single
process.
C
So
that
particular
thing
captured
my
attention
and
that's
what
I
brought
to
the
group
like
where
we
have
the
one
process
type
or
category
per
container
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
can
also
consider
like
unicorns
in
this
particular
discussion.
C
Maybe
it's
a
good
point,
but
but
if,
if
we
know
like
in
in
someone
is
using
uni
kernels
to
develop
CNF,
unfortunately
I
found
these
other
article
like
a
or
like
a
paper,
and
in
this
particular
paper
was
exploring
that
that
use
case
they
were
using
uni
kernels
to
develop
a
CNF
just
just
presenting
the
results
like
that,
like
the
performance
results
like
the
benefits
where
the
the
different
uni
girls
Frameworks,
that
they
use
for
for
achieving
that
tnf
and
even
they
were
calling
like
making
the
distinction
between
unicorns
environmental
versus
unicorns.
C
On
on
a
VM,
I
think
I
think
it
was
good
paper
to
read
it.
So
probably
the
question
is
still
you're
still
going
like
so
should.
I
include
all
this
information
in
the
issue
that
we
have
opened.
C
C
D
D
B
C
B
B
C
Okay,
well,
all
these
things
are
like
all.
This
instruction
is
just
making
it's
just
providing
context
like
trying
to
understand
the
performance,
and
they
were
using
to
specific
cases
like
PCB
and
EBP.
C
and
saying,
like
a
epcs,
requires
more
performance
and
that's
why
they
try
to
base
this
article
in
in
the
department
in
the
core
Network
use
case.
C
It's
when
the
economical
use
case.
They
were
like
talking
about
especially
performance
and
obviously
isolation
and
all
the
problems
like
What
containers
can
have
in
this
person
or
like
all
these
evolution
so
and
eventually
they
introduce.
C
In
the
picture-
and
they
were
saying
well
unique,
columns
can
be
benefited
like
to
use
in
the
especially
in
core
Network,
because
it
has
a
good
performance.
It
has
good
isolation
and
then
the
in
in
this
particular
section
of
the
article
like
they
were
discussing
about
performance
about
performance
and
how
they
achieve
that
so
I
mentioned
before
they
were
saying
like
for
unicorns.
C
They
split
into
particular
scenarios
where
they
have
those
unicorns
running
on
top
of
a
VM
or
on
top
of
a
bare
metal,
and
they
were
human
using
a
different
acronym
for
for
for
those
to
make
a
more
terminal
terminology
on
this
and
obviously
doing
a
small
use
case
or
run
a
benchmark,
or
they
were
just
getting
these
graphs
and
interesting
thing.
They
were
at
least
mentioning
a
few
of
the
technologies
that
they
were
using
things.
C
One
of
them
is
this:
one
include
OS
and
giving
a
little
pros
and
cons.
They
didn't
dig
too
much
of
that,
but
at
least
they
at
least
the
the
the
they
put
some
conclusions
on
that
like
saying
well,
this
technology,
we
use
this
and
we
perform
this
small
scenario,
so
I
think
for
a
quick
overview
on
remote
facility.
That
will
give
a
little
bit
introduction
because
it's
not
very,
very
Chinese,
color,
very
deep
on
the
analysis,
but
I
started,
exploring
like
the
proceed
to
use
unique
kernels
in
the
Telco
space,
obviously
exposing.
C
When
I
try
to
investigate,
especially
to
include
OS,
it's
not
that
very
easy
to
replace
like
because
I
guess,
blue
OS
requires
that
you
application
is
written
in
C
or
C
plus
plus
I.
Don't
remember
exactly
and
there's
a
lot
of
attempts
to
provide
unicorn
Frameworks,
so
so,
even
when
they
they
explored.
That
I
still
feel
like
a
it's
a
little
far
too
long
in
terms
of
implementation
or
use
cases.
D
So
it
seems
like
there
may
be,
and
I
did
I'm
not
seeing
it
in
here
just
best
practices
on
when
you're
building
unfs.
D
That
could
be
I
mean.
The
idea
of
a
UNF
for
VMS
is
been
around
for
a
pretty
long,
while
I
was
saying
it
in
Zen
and
stuff,
and.
D
It
seems
like
there
would
be
best
practices
that
maybe
we
could
look
at
and
then
I
want
to
adopt
but
adjust.
Maybe
is
another
word
to
look
at
them,
for
maybe
inspiration
of
what
would
be
in
a
Santa.
It
doesn't
seem
like
they're
all
directly
translatable.
D
C
Yeah,
probably
that's
that's
my
point
like
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
we
haven't
considered
like
UNF
on
the
on
undiscover
the
group.
So
the
first
question
is:
should
we
need
to
included
as
part
of
the
best
practice
just
cases
whatever,
and
it
is.
The
answer
is
yes
like
which
one
we
have
to
you
consider
like
which
part
of
the
discussions
or
like
which
use
cases
maybe
or
best
practices.
C
D
I
I
would
like
I
mean
the
use
cases
and
user
stories
are
fine.
Ideally,
we
could
have
a
a
UNF
example
to
be
able
to
explore.
B
D
D
You
know
what
other,
what
would
be
a
CNF,
that's
using
a
unit
kernel,
the
private
5G
stuff
seems
like
a
place
where
you
would
maybe
use
it,
but
I
I,
don't
know
of
an
actual
example.
Here's
a
real
thing,
that's
using
it.
C
Yep,
which
maybe
have
the
unique
requirements
for
for
Linda,
like
probably
a
security
requirements
or
performance
requirements,
it's
just
unique
for
that
particular
use
case.
D
B
C
Interesting,
if
you
you
also
consider
like
you,
can
also
provide
your
feedback
or
try
to
investigate
about
the
topic
and
Maybe
scenario.
We
can
expand.
It.
D
A
Yeah
they're
they're
minor
comments,
but
yeah
they're
minor
comments.
They
should
be
for
me.
A
Thank
you,
I.
Don't
think
that
comment
is
controversial
because
I
just
I'm
thinking
back
to
the
issue.
This
is
the
draft.
Obviously,
but
you
know
the
draft
is
the
cnf's
container
should
have
one
process
category
you
know
in
parentheses
type.
A
So
maybe
here
in
the
summary
that
we
should
be
just
because
it
says
only
one
process
or
set
of
parent
child
processes
per
container
I'm,
just
thinking
if
we
can
make
it
even
more
clear
by
saying
you
know
it's
one
process,
type
or
category,
you
know
I,
don't
know
I'm
just
it
just
when
I
read
it
I
just
go.
Oh,
is
someone
going
to
comment
on
this
later?
Who
may
not
have
read
the
issue.
A
D
A
You
can
close
that
comment.
If
you
want
to
that
makes
sense
to
me,
and
then
the
other
one
is
was
just
there's
some
sense:
Am
I
Wrong
is
this
a
template
that
we
did?
We
take
a
previous
best
practice
and
and
there's
some
stuff
left
in
here
from
the
old
one
that
we're
removing
as
we're
going.
A
So
there's
a
in
the
you
know
the
heading:
there
is
motivation,
so
the
best
practice
benefits.
You
know,
I
think
that
first
paragraph
or
first
sentence,
you
know
make
sense,
but
the
next
two
are
more
like
talking
about
how
it's
testing
and
I
didn't
really
understand.
If
that
really
needs
to
be
part
of
the
motivation,
maybe
there's
a
I
know.
This
is
a
testing
I
forget
what
the
section
down
below
it's
not
called
purely
testing.
It's
called
testing
something
else.
A
I
have
to
go,
look
at
it,
but
I'm
just
thinking
this
next,
two
sentences-
probably
don't
belong
here
at
least
I-
don't
understand
why
they
would
be
motivation.
D
D
That's
that's
actually,
two
hideous,
even
for
my
own
eyes
how
about
that
one.
So
this
should
all
be
and
I
I
think
I.
Just
put
it
here,
replace
the
alarm
if
some
filler
content.
So
this
is
all
filler
content.
Okay,
all.
D
So
all
of
this
is
from
a
previous
best
practice,
so
none
of
it
is
for
this
one.
So
the
reason
why
this
would
be
and
I
that's
the
first
part.
This
is
all
just
example
content.
All
of
it
should
be
replaced
with
something
that's.
D
Real
directly
relevant
to
this
practice,
and
then
the
other
part
was.
Why
is
this
section
here?
So
for
the
other
best
practice,
it
was
a
motivation.
So
the
reason
why
this
is
a
motivation
is
on
an
sc
Linux
based
system,
so
red
hat
open
shift,
you're
expected
to
drop
privileges
yeah,
so
any
SC,
Linux
based
environment,
where
whatever
that
would
be,
is
going
to
expect
the
containers
to
drop
privileges.
So
if
you're
designed
to
not
use
root
privileges,
then
you're
going
to
be
more
ready
to
run
on
this
system.
D
D
If
there's
a
practice,
that's
like
aligned
with
what
you're
doing
daily
your
main
work
or
whatever,
then
here's
something
that
we
are
trying
to
get
people
to
adopt,
because
we
we
found
it
to
be
a
good
thing.
Then
please
put
that
forward.
It's
I
think
it's
easier
to
get
something
finished.
If,
if
it's
already
something
that
you
care
about
on
your
daily
or
it's
a
challenge
that
you're
trying
to
get
resolved,
this
one
was
related
to.
D
Microservice
best
practice
adoption
like
how
do
we
get
that
forward
and
that's
why
this
was
getting
put
forward.
I
I
do
want
to
complete
it
I
think
we
have
enough
content
that
you
know
we
just
need
to
put
the
effort
in,
but
for
other
best
practices
and
Oliver
this
you
know
you,
you
were
asking
at
Matrix
like
what
would
be
of
interest
to
contribute
and
I
I.
Don't
want
to
just
point
you
all
at
a
specific
here's.
D
We
got
a
bunch
of
issues,
but
if
there's
something
specific,
where
y'all
are
here's
an
area
where
we
really
care
about-
and
what's
you
know
it
could
be
highlighting
something
that
you
all
find
relevant,
then
that
would
be
a
best
practice
that
maybe
we
can
focus
on.
Maybe
there's
some
existing,
but
if
we
don't
have
one,
then
it
could
just
be
an
idea
of
it
for
it
and
the
Victor
we've
been
talking
about
the
deployment
practices
and
stuff.
D
All
right
does
anyone
have
anything
else.