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A
A
B
Right,
it's
mixed
up
afternoon
good
morning.
B
C
C
The
good
thing
about
it
is
Chris
attended
that
conference
most
of
the
audience
was
the
students
so
and
there
were
like
a
few
companies
shown
experiences
and
other
things
not
too
much
with
kubernetes
and
but
I
guess
it
was
a
good
beginning.
So
so
we're
planning
to
do
a
kcd,
maybe
in
Mexico
or
like
Guatemala,
but
yeah
I
mean
this
is
a
a
huge
learning
form,
especially
for
Latin.
D
C
Is
behind
compared
with
other
other
countries
around
the
world,
so
yeah
yeah?
It
was
that's
pretty
much
what
other
people
I
thought
about
the
particular
event,
so
not
too
much
Ray
with
the
the
telcos
not
too
much
well,
they
were
she
said
about
key
Romantics,
but
they
were
just
touching
the
basics
about
mostly
how
to
replicure
letters
and
how
to
use
containers
like,
as
I
mentioned
before,
like
that
time
is
not
at
least
in
in
that
particular
race,
not
not
far.
A
There
was
a
lot
more
there
than
I
expected,
including
some
good
presentations
and
also
panels
where
you
had
folks
from
different
and
Latin
America
and
other
parts
of
Canada
there's
a
good
feeling
from
Canada
as
well.
That's
cool,
I'm
gonna,
try
to
get
reach
out
and
talk
with
some
of
the
folks
spoken
with
and
see.
If
we
can
get
someone
to
come
and
talk
with
us
here,.
B
B
Okay,
so
moving
on
to
the
agenda,
so
the
kubecon
North
America
cfp
closes
this
Sunday.
B
A
So
there
is
the
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
for
us.
Anyone
or
speaking
with
there,
there's
going
to
be
a
new
track
at
this
starting
at
this
kubecon.
A
B
B
A
C
So
Taylor,
do
you
know
if
that
new
track
is
going
to
be
at
the
same
time
as
a
calculator
like
I
mean
not
going
to
overlap.
A
I
it
goes.
This
is
some
primary
main
kubecon,
so
this
isn't
a
color
code
event.
This
would
be
concurrent
so
there's
the
concurrent
talks
that
happen
during
kubecon,
and
there
are
a
lot
when
they're
selecting
talks
and
for
kubecon.
They
do
it
based
on
filling
in
different
topics,
so
that
track
so
different
areas.
So
they've
added
this
whole
topic
area.
A
Four
sets
of
talks
to
fill
in
and
that's
the
networking
Edge
that'll
run
beside
other
things
like
I'm,
not
sure
what
they
are,
but
maybe
there
will
be
like
an
environmental
sustainability
track
and
then
you
would
have
potentially,
if,
if
that
was
the
track,
you
could
have
a
networking
Edge
talk
at
the
same
time
as
an
environmental.
Those
will
be
happening
during
the
main
kubecon
so
decision.
A
This
isn't
the
co-located
event.
We
we
still
need
sponsorship
and
and
push
for
the
sponsorship
and
get
things
going
for
hellco
day
and
I
think
we
should
fill
that
up
separately
from
anything
that
happens.
Of
course,
if
you
know
if,
if
someone
submits
a
cfp,
for
you
know,
a
some
type
of
networking
or
Telecom
focused
talk
at
Main
cubecon,
and
they
also
do
something
at
Cloud
native
chelco
day
or
their
company
or
whatever.
B
E
Yeah
I
just
got
in
the
drop
down,
I
was
looking
for
the
kcd
Mexico
or
Guatemala,
and
I
noticed
notice.
There's
a
Texas
one
dsps
just
opened
last
week
and
their
they
remain
open
until
August
30th.
A
C
Maybe
yeah
I
haven't
was
here
but
yeah
as
long
as
the
registration
is
pretty
like.
B
B
Okay,
any
other
updates
on
the
other
events.
In
terms
of
things,
we
should
be
pushing
people
to
propose
presenter.
A
So
it
you
know
if,
if
we
don't
get
sponsorship,
you
know
I,
keep
hearing
some
people
kind
of,
say,
they're
interested
and
it's
not
moving
forward,
it's
possible
that
it
doesn't
get
supported
and
added,
and
that
seems
not
good
since
it
does
seem
like
we
have
a
good
number
of
people,
the
it's
frustrating
that
we
don't
have
virtual,
because
we've
had
on
the
first
one.
There
was
a
larger
showing
with
people
there
and
people
were
met
yeah.
We
need
sponsorship
for
that.
A
A
bunch
of
small
ones
would
be,
as
you
know,
work
up,
but
we
need
that
and
then,
if,
if
it
weren't
to
happen
or
even
if
it
does
happen,
do
we
want
to
do
something
like
the
Telco
Community
Gathering
that
we
did
and
Amsterdam
where
we
had
an
additional
time.
So
the
reason
why
we
did
that
was
Plato
today
was
only
half
a
day
and
it
seemed
like
there
was
enough
interest
to
keep
talking
Beyond
yeah
time,
and
that
was
a
very
successful
event
or
whatever
you
call
that
and
the
community
together.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
should.
It
was
I
thought
the
one
in
Amsterdam
was
brilliant.
It
was.
It
was
good
having
some
input
from
other
people,
just
hearing
people's
views
and
about
the
things
that
are
being
discussed
a
bit
more
relaxed
atmosphere.
C
A
C
C
No,
the
other
thing
that
I
was
thinking
is
about
the
audience.
I
guess
like
it
was
more.
You
know
it
was
a
little
bit
more
informal
I
guess
that
the
people
feel
more
free
to
share
ideas
like,
for
example,
when
they
were
saying
about
see
about
projects
they
were
like.
We
didn't
have
any
silver
product
in
the
circle,
but
the
Karen.
A
So
it's
it
seems
to
me
that
if,
if
there's
a
good
chunk
of
I,
don't
know
how
how
much
publicities
happen
for
the
kubecon
networking
Edge
track,
but
if,
if
we
have
more
folks
that
are
coming
in
and
and
putting
their
presentations
in
under
that
track,
and
maybe
they're
more
networking
Telecom
related
as
a
result,
then
it
slightly
will
have
more
people
that
might
be
interested
in
the
community
Gathering.
A
That
would
be
one
thing
I'd
want
to
take
advantage
of.
If
we
put
it
forward,
it
sounds
like
Tom
you,
you
probably
wouldn't
be
coming
to
the
to
that.
You
know
if
it's
happening
at
kubecon,
North
America,
so.
A
If
we're
gonna
do
it
and
we
want
to
try
to
it's,
it's
frustrating
that
the
cfps
coming
up
this
soon
for
the
kubecon,
because
it
feels
like
we
need
to
push
to
say
get
your.
You
know
your
Telecom
cfpn,
so
you're
there
and
get
a
large
group
of
folks
ready
to
talk
with
us,
but
maybe
all
this
week
we
should
do
that
post.
B
A
B
B
This
is
a
PR
to
review
again.
Okay,.
C
Regarding
the
pr
I,
well
one
thing
that
I
noticed
it's:
he
hasn't
signed
his
comment,
so
maybe
something
that
we
have
to
tell
him
and
given
that
it
is
a
it's
his
first
contribution
into
into
this
project.
We
have
to
manually
approve
repetition
of
a
the
CI,
so
just
disapprove
it
right.
Now
it's
running
the
the
CI.
C
The
the
last
thing
that
I
checked
he
didn't
update
some
references.
So
let's
go
for
this
time.
C
D
C
The
the
broken
references.
C
Okay,
probably
the
only
feedback
I'm
going
to
put
it
in
there,
the
pr
yes,
regarding
the
TCO
failures.
C
C
The
ability
that
we
can
do
is
maybe
we
can
squash
them.
I
mean
more
if
I
always
seems
during
the
merch
like,
so
in
that
way
we
can
as
well.
The
team
can.
C
C
Well,
it's
going
to
fail
because
there
are
a
few
keep
thinking
from
the
Gathering
event,
markdown
page,
which
is
not
following
like
standard
markdown.
C
C
D
C
B
C
Now,
what
I
was
saying
is
like
yeah,
those
like
yeah,
we
need
to
see,
except
later,
like
I
mean
he's
not
related
with,
especially
with
a
PR
like
that.
So.
B
A
There's
no
PR
yet
there's
the
draft
document.
Is
there
any
other
new
comments.
A
I
think
trying
to
write
up,
add
more
content
into
here.
B
A
Looking
at
I,
it's
just
a
copy
from
there.
The
next
part
is
content
that
was
related
to
test
weight,
test,
suite
and
other
places,
just
an
example,
but
that
first
portion
from
docker.
A
A
D
A
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
think
we
can,
you
know,
probably
reference.
This
just
add
it
in
the
reference
section
but
write
something
very
similar.
The
bottom
part
is
maybe
a
little
bit
redundant.
It
kind
of
explains
it's
kind
of
expanding
on
it,
but
between
these
two
we
could
write
something
up:
yeah,
maybe
talking
about
a
CNF
running
on
kubernetes
or
something
like
that,
but
take
those
ideas
and
and
put
it
like
that,
anyways
I,
I
think
the
worst
thing
with
this
whole
best
practice
is.
A
The
words
process,
type
or
process
category
is
only
slightly
better.
It's
probably
the
worst
part
where
people
get
stuck
on
that
versus
focusing
on
the
concern
yeah.
The
the
thing
is:
we're
we're
trying
to
help
people
with
like
guide
it
towards
implementation,
a
little
bit
more
than
being
a
super
high
level
and
say
write
good
code.
A
You
know,
that's
not
gonna
work
and
I
I
worry
a
little
bit
that
if
we
change
this
to
one
concern
per
container,
which
should
be
the
highest
level,
then
someone
would
go
Oh.
Our
concern
is
this
whole
Network
function,
which
happens
to
require
I'm,
not
going
to
say
processes
I'm
going
to
use
another
word.
B
A
Dns
server
and
a
ton
of
other
things
and
they
go.
Our
concern
is
this
service
and
it
requires
these
applications
to
all
run
which
are
all
different
processes
whatever,
but
the
that
would
kill
the
point
of
this.
You
know,
then
we
go
well.
Your
concern
is
too
large,
so
I
don't
and
then
we
have
to
get
into
I'm
trying
to
figure
this
out,
like
the
the
intention
of
saying
one
process,
category
or
one
process
type.
A
Is
it's
more
likely
that
when
you
get
into
a
single
process
like
the
HTTP
server
or
nginx
or
DNS
or
I,
can't
use
like
a
the
session
manager,
even
though
that
5G
core
it's
it's,
it
is
breaking
it
down,
but
the
session
manager
actually
has
multiple
components.
When
you
look
at
like
open
five,
five
GS
or
free
5gs,
either
one
of
those
projects,
so
there's
something
there,
it's
easier
to
look
at
other
applications
like
nginx
or
something
like
that
cord
DNS
or
they
were
designed
to
handle
one
concern.
A
Way
of
talking
with
it,
because
I
know
they
have
a
lot
of
different
ways
of
doing
integration,
but
they're
not
trying
to
be
a
generic
HTTP
service
and
providing
you
know
whatever
you
want
to
say
on
that,
but
that
gray
area
where
things
start
blending
is
where
we
get
a
lot
of
arguments,
and
then
we
get
a
lot
of
blocking
on
something
and
not
moving
forward
so
anyways.
This
is
my
point.
A
A
Yeah,
let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
it
in
the
Google
Doc.
Okay,
now
we
can
just
start
making
changes,
they
can
be
like
this
or
people
Mark
stuff
out
or
do
suggestions
or
just
write
stuff
in
I.
Don't
think
it
really
matters
since
we
have
history
and
of
course
we
can
have
comments.
This
is
linked
out
of
you
know
the
main
document
I,
don't
think
I
put
a
link
to
it
in
the
and
the
ticket.
A
We'd,
probably
I,
don't
know.
If
it's
let
me
see
what
the
sharing
is.
Can
you
edit
or
suggest
edits?
No,
it
looks
like
it's.
Anyone
with
link
can
comment.
So,
theoretically
we
could.
B
A
B
D
A
You
edit
access
Tom,
your
Gmail
account.
A
A
Got
another
I'm
gonna
grab.
Another
summary
item
I
was
trying
to
find
content
to
put
in
the
motivation.
I
haven't
found
that
yet,
let's
see
it's
best
practice.
A
B
A
A
D
A
Here
we
go
see
my
comment
over
there
yeah
yeah,
so
that
seems,
okay,
you
know
these
words
in
this
are
saying:
don't
do
it
and
again,
this
is
like
what
is
your
intent?
So
if
we
talk
about
what
is
you
know,
what
we're
trying
to
guide
people
on
a
best
practice
and
then
what
is
the
intent
of
that
best
practice?
A
So
if
the
concern
was
something
like
a
it's,
it's
a
ipsec
microservice
like
a
a
it's,
the
end
point
where
it's
you're
connecting
ipsec
clients
are
connecting,
and
this
is
a
terminating
ipsecond
point
and
you're
trying
to
you
need
to
know
what
are
the
different
addresses
or
whatever
that.
Maybe
maybe
this
pod
has
lots
of
different.
A
Network
service
connections
or
something
I'm
trying
to
come
up
with
this
story,
so
you
have
lots
of
different
connections.
However,
that
is
multis.
Maybe
it's
the
new
fancy.
Network
object.
That's
has
a
pull
request,
so
it's
it's
actually
native
to
kubernetes,
but
you
have
a
lot
of
endpoints
and
you
have
an
inbound
connection
to
the
ear
service.
You
know,
maybe
that
comes
in
third,
the
normal
flat
network
doesn't
really
matter.
You
receive
this
connection,
yeah
that
you
need
to
look
at
and
they're
saying,
hey
I'm,
trying
to
connect
to.
A
You
know
some
some
other
place
and
they're
talking
to
you
right
trying
to
connect
in
somewhere.
Maybe
you
spawned
the
IP
Command
and
look
at
all
of
the
available
networks
or
something
as
part
of
it.
Of
course
you
could
do
this
in
some
other
fashion.
A
Using
the
IP
Command
as
if
it
was
an
internal
function
or
whatever,
if
you
wrote
it
that
to
me,
sounds
okay,
but
if
you
said
I'm
going
to
spawn
up
a
postgres
database
and
then
I
have
a
web
server
running
that's
connected
to
the
postgres
database
and
that
web
server
runs.
You
know
something
to
collect
IP
info
and
have
that
available
to
the
ipsec
service.
That
then
goes
and
talks
to
this
network
IP
database.
A
B
A
Doesn't
make
sense
yeah
all
right,
so
I
agree
with
expanding
to
be
okay
with
running
executables
that
are
within
the
concern
and
I
understand
why
it's
written
this
way,
because
I
can
see
people
just
saying
well,
I'm
everything
that
I
run
is
the
concern
and
it
becomes
too
expansive.
So
something
with
we
need
to
capture
the
intent
but
I
think
between
these
three.
A
That's
a
good
start.
Do
you
all
have
any
thoughts
on
I
mean
wait?
If
we
can,
if
you
want,
we
can
keep
going
here.
Motivation
goals.
A
B
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
struggle
to
carry
on
past
the
top
of
the
arrow,
but
something
I
can
I
can
put
some
time
aside
this
week
to
look
at
and
make
some
suggestions.
I'm.
A
Maybe
our
needs
new
content
need
place.
A
This
one
should
be
more
straightforward
other
than
the
same
issues
that
we're
having
where
people
can
say.
Wait.
A
second
can
I
do
this.
Isn't
that
part
of
the
concern
and
I
think
we'll
just
have
to
keep
expanding
on
it
and
add
this
sort
of
thing
would
be
okay,
we
may
need
to
actually
write
something
about
intention.
A
Yeah
attention
is
important
should
be
trying
to.
D
A
C
No
I
guess
like
I
mean
there
is
no
reason
to
you,
know,
follow
him
I
mean
at
least
in
in
the
system,
but
I
I
think
they
also
have
to
follow
the
same
in
practice.
C
The
other
thing
that
I
was
thinking
is
like
there
is.
There
is
a
way
to
like
I
mean
like
like
using
ebpf
to
to
track,
which
are
the
processes
running
by
the
OS
like
or
do
you
know
if
there
is
a
tool
too
I
don't
know
if
there
should
be
an
another
way
to
describe
this
as
a,
for
example,
like
the
number
of
these
calls
to
execute
new
new
processors,
mostly
I'm
concerned
about,
like
people
confused
in
terms
like
a
threats
and
processes.
A
I,
okay
notes:
caveats
yeah,
something
here
to
do.
A
About
threads,
so
is
this
like
threads
and
processes
and
add
information
about
child
reference
for
processes.
A
A
That
so
the
that
we
we
may
need
to
expand
on
that
I
did
try
to
put
something
up
under
the
summary
section.
A
Where,
under
the
summary,
if
you
scroll
up
there,
Tom
I'm
trying
to
write
something
about
that,
so
the
the
docker
content,
it
actually
talks
about
it,
it's
okay
to
have
multiple
processes,
but
avoid
it's
it's
talking
about
the
responsibilities
and
then
forking
multiple
worker
processes.
So
that's
child
processes
and
threat.
Well,
the
the
way
that
it's
I
think
they
actually
become
non-child.
The
way
I
think
you
can
enable
that
in
Apache,
so
they
actually
are
no
longer
a
child
process
but
running
them
by
themselves,
and
then
they
can
have
child
processes.
A
C
Yeah
yeah,
because
it's
the
perfect
way
to
I
mean
this
is
a
perfect
place
to
put
all
these
extra
information
all.
A
A
A
A
All
right,
well
workflow
context.