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A
A
Thanks
for
posting
the
meetings,
those
are
in
the
zoom
chat.
A
A
We
did
cancel
last
week,
let's
see
so,
if
you
have
any
agenda
items,
please
Adam
elephant
developer
and
testing
forums
coming
up
that
starts
tomorrow.
A
At
openran
the
virtual
Summit,
the
stuck
on
TV
but
Slater
this
month,
let's
see
open
source
Summit
Europe,
the
open
source,
Summit
North
America
seemed
to
have
a
pretty
good
number
of
networking
Telecom
related
talks,
including,
of
course,
the
one
Summit
which
happened
at
the
same
time.
A
A
Maybe
not
Mike's
muted.
All
right
we'll
have
to
look
at
that.
If
there's
a
one
Summit
I
presume
the
cfps
may
be
closed.
If
it's
happening.
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A
Cfps
are
going
to
close
on
June
19th,
so
anyone
like
to
submit
for
Telco
or
networking
talk
should
do
that.
It's
nice
we're
still
looking
for
sponsors
for
Cloud9
for
Telco
day
and.
A
Last
time
we
were
here,
we
had
a
little
bit
of
a
review
on
the
big
five
and
then
talked
about
this
best
practice
containers.
What's
one
process
type
and
started
a
a
Google
doc
draft
for
this
practice,
so
that
we
could
have
some
comments
in
there.
It's
probably
the
next
thing
and
to
dig
back
into
the
draft
and
I
believe
there's
another
draft
that
came
in.
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B
A
We're
just
about
to
end.
There
wasn't
really
anything
much
today.
A
Off
and
out
last
week,
the
I
think
that
the
next
thing
that
we
were
going
to
really
dig
into
was
the
drafts
documents
for
some
of
the
best
practices
that
were
created
from
the
last
in
May.
A
So
we'll
be
looking
at
that.
This
was
just
posted
here,
though,
so
we
have
a
this
one
pull
request.
A
All
of
the
different
document
content
under
the
docs
folder.
C
Taylor,
while
we're
on
this
I'm
just
curious,
is
it
possible
or
would
it
make
sense
to
like
prior
to
the
next
meeting?
C
For
example,
I
know
that
you
know
in
the
meeting
minute
document
we,
you
know
we
can
always
add
agenda
items,
but
you
know
if
we
had
like
out
of
you
know
after
the
sort
of
as
we
closed
these
meetings,
if
maybe
just
have
a
sort
of
what's
on
the
agenda
for
next
week
like
planned,
you
know
that
doesn't
mean
it
can't
vary,
but
it
might
help
for
people
who
want
to
prepare
in
advance.
C
A
Sure-
and
we
usually
do
ask
and
it's
if
someone
says
something,
but
we
could
put
it
on
there
ahead
of
time.
Just
it
will
sometimes
end
up
action
items,
but
not
added,
but
we
could
try
to
do
that.
Yeah.
Is
there
anything
other
than
what
I
mentioned
as
far
as
the.
C
No
I
think
the
one
you
just
I
think
the
there
was
one
of
the
issues
that
you
were
showing
there
a
second.
C
Yeah,
it
wasn't
that
one
but
I
think
there
was.
You
said
this
this.
There
was
a
best
practice
proposal
that
we
have
been
discussing
and.
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C
A
A
A
To
put
a
proposal
forward,
so
there's
been
some
discussions
and
the
issue
and
some
discussion
on
other
non-sanity
related
places,
and
it
would
be
easier
if
we
actually
had
a
full
here's.
The
full
proposal,
rather
than
an
idea,
I,
think
the
issue
is
kind
of
more
just
an
idea.
So
finish.
A
A
Seem
to
be
some
confusion
around
the
wording
when
it
said
one
process
type
like
it
meant
one
process,
you
can
only
have
a
single
process
and
several
other
misunderstandings.
I
guess,
is
how
I'd
call
it
rather
than
what
is
the
actual
intent
and
then
the
focus
ended
up
being
on
misunderstandings
rather
than
let's
actually
talk
about
the
intent
of
this,
and
it
seemed
like
if
we
had
a
full
draft
that
actually
has
the
full
summary
and
motivation
and
all
this
written
out.
At
that
point,
we
can
focus
on.
C
A
Are
we
actually
trying
to
recommend
as
a
best
practice?
So
this
is
the
draft
on
that
started
a
week
before
last.
So
this
is
what
I
was
referring
to
Oliver,
that
I
need
to
work
on
and
make
sense
try
to
work
on
that
this
week
and
and
then
I
think
just
do
a
pull
request,
and
then
people
can
comment
either
directly
on
the
Google
Doc,
which
is
I've
linked
now
or
in
the
pull
request
itself.
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A
A
C
A
What
we
do
from
the
working
group,
cncf,
Community,
Cloud
native
I,
don't
know
collaboration
across
groups.
What
do
you
want
to
see
what,
but,
should
we
be
working
on
in
your
mind,.
A
A
Well,
is
there
an
area
where
you
think
there's
some
commonality
where
we
could
collaborate
or
some
pain,
that
you're
saying
that
you
keep
hearing
but
nobody's
trying
to
resolve
together,
even
coming
together
to
discuss
and
put
forward
their
pain
points.
B
Trying
to
think,
if
there's
anything
that
that's
more
CNF
specific
when
it
comes
to
the
we
do
have
an
edge
working
group
or
well
Edge
and
distributed
infrastructure.
Focused
working
group
I
think
that's
more
accurate
under
the
opening,
Pro
Foundation
umbrella
and
we've
been
discussing
AI
recently,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
topic
that
came
up
for
cnfs
as
well
or
or
it's
to
early
or
not
applicable
in
this
space.
Yet.
B
But
that's
one
of
the
conversations
that
that
keeps
coming
back.
We
had
a
presentation
about
devops
and
generative
AI
today.
I
think
it
was
pretty
interesting,
so
if
that
is
something
that
that
came
up
in
this
working
group
as
well,
that
could
be
something
to
look
into
throughout
the
whole
stack
or
the
full
stack.
That
could
be
interesting.
A
Focus
I
guess
but
expand
what
it's
publicly
saying:
it's
working
on
and
willing
to
work
on
beyond
what
we
had
stated
before,
just
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
from
I
I
would
say,
service
providers
would
be
the
drivers
on
what
are
the
need
for
everybody
if
you're
creating
a
product,
it's
probably
going
towards
the
service
provider.
So
if
you're,
an
integrator,
you're,
probably
taking
different
products
and
the
whole
putting
the
stack
together
for
the
service
provider.
So
from
what
I'm
hearing
it
seems
like
it
needs
to
expand.
A
So
I
think
when
we
say
CNS,
that's
been
what
is
a
word
that
we
can
use
that
gives
people
some
Focus,
but
it's
probably
moved.
We've
moved
past
it
being
as
helpful
where
some
people
go
well,
I'm,
not
building
a
CNS.
So
I
don't
need
to
talk
to
you,
but
if
you
go
well
hold
on
you're
helping
deploy
a
CNN
for
you're
monitoring,
CNS
or
whatever
it
may
be,
the
full
stack.
A
What
you're
saying
I
think
full
stack
as
far
as
devops
and
how
do
you
manage
all
of
it
is
important
to
look
at
and
it's
been
there
the
whole
time.
It's
just
when
there
was
a
point
in
the
past
when
you
said
well,
you
care
about
all
of
it.
What
is
the
full
stack
then?
A
Sometimes
it
would
get
off
and
focus
on
one
very
small
part
of
the
stack
and
say
you
can't
do
this,
so
we
don't
need
to
talk
at
all
and
I
think
that
ended
up
being
one
of
the
main
reasons
to
go.
Okay,
we'll
just
focus
on
applications
that
are
running
at
some
certain
level
and
ignore
the
others,
but
that
was
that's
kind
of
always
been
temporary
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
time
to
expand.
There's
been
a
request
for
it
for
a
long
time.
So
how
do?
How
do
we
do
these
other
things?