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A
Oh
wow
that
we
have
an
ad
break
on
there,
that
is
cool
as
hell.
So
now
we
come
up
and
there's
an
ad.
I
think
it's
a
is
a
taco
bell.
It's
taco,
there's
a
taco
bell
ad
streaming
on
there
right
after
I
hit
like
start,
and
it's
like
15
30
seconds.
That
is
cool
as
hell.
I
I
don't
I
don't.
A
I
don't
know
if
I'm
going
to
see
any
any
money
off
of
this
taco
bell,
but
it
would
be
kind
of
cool
because
I'd
rather
have
money
from
taco
bell
than
like
any
other
product.
But
you
know
that's
just
me
because
I,
the
test
taco
bell,
but
anyways,
welcome
to
solid
state.
My
name
is
tim
banks.
A
I
am
here
to
have
this
show
on
behalf
of
the
cloud
native
computing
foundation
and
since
it
is
a
cnc
at
function,
we
do
have
a
code
of
conduct
we
go
by
and
I'm
pretty
sure
we're
all
familiar
with
what
codes
of
conduct
are,
and
it's
be
probably
you
know,
let's
not
run
a
foul
of
it
unless
you
be
thrown
off
the
show
or
beaten
up
with
me.
A
I
have
my
dear
dear
friend,
ashley
willis,
formerly
ashley,
mcnamara,
developer
relations
and
engineer
extraordinaire,
so
good
good
morning
to
you,
ashley,
oh
good
morning
tim,
I
know
ashley
recent
mother,
again
of
a
of
a
beautiful
beautiful
little
girl,
got
what
three
hours
contiguous
of
sleep.
B
Three
hours
continuous,
no.
A
Yeah
total,
maybe
yeah
so
so.
No,
I
ashley
and
I
go
way
back,
I'm
not
going
to
read
her
official
bio
because
she's,
it's
long,
she's
done
a
lot
of
stuff,
she's,
pretty
awesome,
but
ash
and
I
go
back
to
to
object
rocket
days
slaving
away
in
downtown
austin.
Just.
A
An
acquired
startup
and
it
has
been
just
an
absolute
pleasure
to
watch
how
far
she
has
gone
from
those
days.
I
guess
about
what
seven
years
ago
now
seven
yeah
yeah
the
second.
A
19.,
no
yeah
that
was
oh
gosh,
so
so
just
so,
everyone
knows
like
just
a
little
history.
So
when
we
were
first
when
we
were
first
in
downtown,
we
were
at
a
building
called
300
west
6th.
It
was
on
6th
street
in
austin
and
that
building
was
being
slowly
taken
over
by
facebook
and
then
facebook
paid
us.
I
think
they
bought
our
lease
out
plus
extra
at
a
rate
so
high
that
we
are.
A
Our
next
office
was,
in
the
19th
floor,
the
entire
19th
floor
of
the
frost
building,
which
was
at
the
time
the
most
realist,
expensive
office,
real
estate
in
the
city
of
austin
and
possibly
the
state
of
texas,
and
that
was
a
double
we
got
murals
we
got
signs
got,
it
was
just.
It
was
fantastic,
free
parking
and
we
were
just
just
clowning.
A
I
mean
we
were
just
stunned
on
everybody
in
that
place
and
I
loved
it
because
we
were
owned
by
rackspace,
and
so
the
other
austin
rackspace
facility,
basically
is
was
terrible.
It
was
awful
and
nobody
liked
it
yeah
it
smelled
bad.
There
was
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
there.
That
was,
like
you
know,
hey,
we
need
security,
to
escort
us
to
our
cars
and
everything
like
that.
But
so
everyone
tried
to
come
to
the
frost
building
and
it
was
yeah
we
were.
We
were
exclusive.
A
A
For
sure
yeah,
but
so
I
would
I
would
like
ashley
for
you
to
tell
me,
because
you
you've
got
two
really
awesome
stories,
that
kind
of
combined
into
one.
First
of
all,
you
come
from
a
non-traditional,
quote,
unquote,
tech
background
right
into
tech,
and
then
you
also
come
from
like
you've
got
three
wonderful
children
and
I
think
kylie,
the
first
one
was
born
when
you
were
17
yeah
ish,
you
know
not
not
to
give
away
your
age,
you
know
kylie
jenner
after
I
was
17.,
yeah,
yeah
kylie's
only
12
years
old.
A
A
You
know,
there's
been
narratives
going
around
that,
like
you
know,
teen
pregnancies
like
disastrous
life
and
anything,
and
you
never
come
out
to
anything
after
that
which
I've
seen
enough
in
my
life
to
know
that
that's
that's
not
the
case,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
talk
about
these
stories
and
there
there
are
a
few
other
folks.
A
I
know
who
have
who
have
been
teen
mothers
and
have
not
only
survived
but
thrive,
but
I
I
really
want
actually
to
tell
the
story,
because
it's
it's
pretty
awesome,
because
you
know
circumstances
around
that
and
then
moving
from
a
non-traditional
tech
background
in
a
text.
So
if
you
could
give
me
like
give
me
a
give
me
a
twitter
thread
on
that,
if
you
could.
B
Get
a
twitter
thread,
I'm
working
on
three
hours
of
sleep.
So
if
you
could
shoot
questions
at
me
during
this,
that
would
be
helpful
to
help
jog
my
memory.
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
I
guess
the
yeah.
Let's,
let's
go
with
kind
of.
What
was
your
if
you
can
remember
like
what
was
your
initial
kind
of
like
what
were
people
telling
you
like
when
once
you're
like
hey,
I'm
pregnant
and
they
were
like?
Oh
gosh-
and
you
know
this
this
and
this
like
kind
of
what
was
that
reaction?
And
what
was
your
initial
feeling
about
what
your
future
was
going
to
be
like.
B
I
remember
distinctly
having
a
history
teacher,
so
for
those
that
don't
know
my
daughter
is
half
turkish
born
in
turkey,
so
she's
a
dual
citizen
as
well-
and
I
remember
my
history
teacher
keeping
me
after
class
once
and
saying
hey,
you
know
what,
like,
I
feel
obligated
to
have
a
conversation
with
you.
Have
you
considered
adoption
and
I
was
like
yeah?
Oh
no,
I'm
good
keeper
and
he
was
like.
I
just
think
it's
gonna
be
a
really
hard
life
for
you.
B
There
are
people
out
there
who
can't
have
babies
and
would
love
to
be
able
to
raise
your
baby
and
give
your
baby
a
better
life,
and
I
remember
going
home
and
telling
my
parents
about
it.
My
parents
were
like
nah
like
that
guy.
Well,
hopefully,
I
didn't
break
the
code
of
conduct
there,
but
I
remember
thinking
about
it
for
a
long
time
like
wow
like
I
could
have
given
her
up
for
adoption
and
she
could
have
had
possibly
a
better
life.
I
remember
thinking
about
that
for
a
long
time.
B
I
still
remember
it
today.
I
would
say
that
I
was
in
a
school
of
200
kids
from
kindergarten
to
high
school,
so
I
that
school
had
been
around
for
50
60
years.
Something
like
that.
I
was
the
only
pregnant
person
in
the
history
of
that
high
school,
so
it's
also
kind
of
like
an
outcast.
In
a
sense,
I
remember
like
kids
not
talking
to
me.
I
remember
feeling
super
lonely
around
that
time.
B
A
B
I
don't
know
I
think
I
wanted
to,
because
I
had
her
so
young.
I
wanted
to
also
grow
up,
so
it
wasn't
until
I
had
topher
that
I
felt
like
I
was
a
regular
mom.
Okay,
I
remember
taking
kylie
to
kindergarten
and
oh
you're,
so
young,
oh
you're,
still
young,
like
I
have
experienced
exactly
the
same
as
you
like.
We're
both
dropping
your
kids
off
at
kindergarten
you're,
not
somehow
better
than
me
more
experienced
than
me
because
you're,
you
know
29.,
so
it
was.
B
A
No,
I
think,
that's
interesting.
I
had
what
I
think
10
year
gap
between
my
you
know,
my
my
oldest
and
my
13
year
old,
and
I
it
for
me
it
felt
really
like
oh,
like
like
yeah,
that
kind
of
like
I
mean
I
you
know
I
had.
I
had
kids
young,
not
none
of
this
he's,
but
very
early
twenties,
and
then
you
know
I
had
my
last
child
when
I
was
42
right,
I'm
41,
sorry,
and
so
it
feels
completely
different.
A
Having
that
having
a
child,
you
know
when
you're
young
and
not
that
you
know
better
or
anything
like
that.
It's
like
not
not
that
life
experience
makes
you
more
prepared
for
childhood
for
for
parenthood,
because
I
don't
really
think
it
does
to
a
lot
of
extent.
Just
having
kids
makes
you
more
prepared
for
parenthood,
because
no
parent
knows
what
they're
doing
when
they
have
their
first
kid.
I
don't
care
how
old
you
are.
No,
not.
B
A
A
A
Well,
I
mean
the
the
thing
for
me
is
at
41.
like
I
can
do
the
I
can
do.
The
calculus
of
my
head
is
like
what
is
she
falling
on?
How
far
she
falling?
Oh
she'll,
be
fine,
let
her
fall.
You
know,
whereas
you
know
my
20s
yeah,
I'm
making
that
I'm
making
that
you
know
a
diving
catch
and
I'm
like
no,
it's
like
you
know
I
cut
myself,
I'm
looking,
it
doesn't
need
stitches,
it'll,
be
fine,
just
go
wash
it
off
and
you
know
just
put
some
super
glue
on
it,
yeah
right.
A
So
so
I
think
that
the
the
parental
experience
more
anything
helps,
but
I
do
think
you
are
right.
Like
that
whole
thing,
it's
like
you,
see
somebody
who's,
29
30.
You
know
I've
got
friends
who
are
having
their
first
kids
deep,
first
kids
deep
in
their
40s,
and
you
know,
they'll-
be
dropping
that
kid
off
for
kindergarten
when
they're
almost
50
and
they're
going
to
be
bumping
up
against
somebody
who's
in
their.
You
know,
early
to
mid,
20s
and
y'all
are
on
the
same
foot,
maybe
not
financially
like.
A
Maybe
not
your
stability,
and
you
know
like
like
financial
stability
or
like
you
know
what
they
say
where
your
station
life
is,
but
certainly
as
a
parent,
and
I
I
dare
say,
a
lot
of
times,
parents,
you
know
parents
who
who
have
to
know
some
financial
struggle.
A
You
know
who
people
who
have
to
get
by
are
probably
far
more
prepared
for
the
kind
of
adversity
that
comes
with
child.
You
know
child
raising
than
people
who
kind
of
been
just
kind
of
surfing,
and
you
know
being
career
people
all
their
lives,
not
that
it's
not
that
it's
not
to
slam
that
or
not
to
diss
that,
because
that's
hard
it's
under
are
in
its
own
way,
but
it's
a
different
kind
of
heart.
It's
a
different
kind
of
suffering
and
you
know
yeah
I've.
A
I've
had
I've
had
kids
when
I
haven't
had
two
nickels
to
rub
together
and
I've
had
take.
You
know,
kids.
When
I've
had
like
you
know,
you
know,
you
know,
I'm
not
gonna
take
a
trip
unless
the
first
class,
so
so
you
know
it
is
different,
but
but
certainly
I
don't
think
I'm
I'm
any
much
better.
As
a
parent
in
one
situation
than
the
other.
B
Yeah,
no
me
either.
The
financial
stability
is
certainly
helpful,
but
yeah.
I
I
don't
think
I'm
I'm
much
different
as
a
parent
for
sure.
A
B
B
Plus
school
was
hard
for
me,
I'm
also
like
80
80,
so
I
learned
the
things
that
I
want
to
learn
and
really
dive
in.
But
if
somebody
says
like
all
right,
you
have
you
have
to
go.
Learn
this
like
do.
I
do
I
really
so
so
I
I
had
a
photography
for
career
for
a
really
long
time.
B
I
dove
into
that.
I
don't
know
what
to
say.
What's
the
saying
about
doing
something,
you
love
and
it's
not
a
job
right.
What's
the
saying
tim.
A
B
That's
crap,
so
I
did
that
for
about
10
years
hated
it,
but
it
it
was
my
sort
of
entry
into
tech.
It
turns
out
photographers
at
the
time
were
mostly
just
you
know,
moms
with
a
camera,
and
so
they
didn't
know
how
to
run
a
business,
how
to
build
a
website
how
to
build
a
blog,
how
to
make
sure
that
either
one
of
those
things
ranked
on
google.
B
So
I
was
selling
those
services.
They
also
didn't
know
how
to
process
an
image.
So
I
was
selling
photoshop
actions
and
presets
and.
B
It
turned
out
that
photographers
were
my
target
market
instead
of
actual
like
going
out
and
finding
clients,
so
that
was
my
entry
into
tech
again
working
on
three
hours
of
sleep
here
and
I
was
lucky
enough
to
find
openstack
and
open
source
really
early.
B
I
liked
the
vibe
of
those
communities
and
because
I
decided
that
I
wasn't
gonna
go
get
a
cs
degree.
I
just
didn't
have
the
time
I
had
two
young
kids
at
the
time,
so
I
went
to
a
boot
camp
and
before
I
went
to
the
boot
camp
I
was
actually
hired
at
object
rocket.
B
A
And
so
yeah,
that's
where
that's
where
we
met,
and
I
I
think
it
was
interesting
because
you
went
right
into
you,
know:
developer
relations
and
community
management
early
very,
very
early
and
and
the
thing
that
I
remember
about
it,
the
most
in
singing
is
that
that
you
were,
I
mean
you
were
learning
tech.
A
You
were
very,
very
savvy
as
far
as
when
it
comes
to
graphic
designs
like
that,
but
you
had
brilliant
ideas
about
how
to
engage
people
in
in
a
in
a
place
where
you
know
objectively,
you
know
for
for
for
the
founders
of
algae
rocket,
whom
I
adore,
but
they
weren't
always
the
most.
That's
what
I'm
looking
for
like
when
it
comes
to
engaging
people.
Sometimes
they
they
just
kind
of
it.
Just
didn't
go
well,
and
I
think
I
think.
B
Because
they
were
experts,
you
have
a
different
relationship
with
the
community.
You
expect.
A
A
Yeah
and
what
I
thought
is
that
you
brought
just
brought
brilliant
ideas
into
that
space
that
were
that
we
absolutely
benefited
from,
because
you
did
not
come
from
like
a
kind
of
standard
tech
background.
You
had
a
completely
different
perspective
right
and
it
was
important
and
it
made
a
huge
difference
right
in
how
people
were
engaged
and
how
we
reached
out
and
how
we,
how
we
kind
of
embraced
the
community
right,
even
how
we
just
talk
to
our
customers
or
how
we,
how
we
engage
with
them.
A
How
we,
you
know,
hey,
let's,
go!
Do
this
thing
for
them
and
they're
all
going
to
love
it
and
like
wow,
they
really
did
love
that
and
less
expensive.
It
would
have
been
like
because
of
those
ideas
that
you
had
that
came
from,
like
I
said
from
a
different
perspective,
and
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
when
we
have
the
inevitable
discussion
that
we
have
every
whatever
the
cycle
is
about.
What
is
devrel
is
they're
real
important.
A
A
That
is
essential
in
getting
diverse
perspectives
on
how
your
product
is
used
or
how
to
build
your
product
for
other
people,
because
it
is,
I
think
that
it's
one
of
the
things
that
really
taught
me
the
importance
of
listening
to
people
when
they
speak,
especially
if
they're
not
a
quote-unquote
expert
on
that
field,
because
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
use
your
product
are
not
the
quote.
A
Unquote
expert
in
that
field
right
because
they
were
they'd,
probably
be
working
for
us,
not
not
consuming
our
services
and
how
to
make
those
things
usable
for
people
who
aren't
the
quote:
unquote:
experts
in
the
field
because
yeah
like
like
I,
I
you
if,
if
the
barrier
for
using
your
product
is
that
you
have
to
be
an
expert,
no
one's
gonna
ever
use
anything
like
we're.
Gonna
have
three
people
use
anything
it's
gonna
be
like
it'll,
be
like
selling
arch
linux.
You
know
like
it's
just
not
well.
B
I
think
I
think
when
people
are
writing
blog
posts
or
documentation
or
any
sort
of
technical
content,
they're
trying
to
prove
how
smart
they
are
right.
I
like
I
still
struggled
at
object,
rocket
trying
to
get
people
to
write
blog
posts
that
were
easy
for
anyone
to
understand,
because
everyone
was
like
I'm
an
expert.
I
could
prove
that
I'm
an
expert.
B
If
I
write
101
content,
people
won't
respect
me
so
selling
the
idea
that
explain
it
like
I'm
5
content
is
just
as
valuable
as
as
the
other
as
the
other
stuff
was
was
sometimes
hard
and
we
had
a
small
team
at
object
rocket
as
well.
So
I
think
I
think
sometimes
I
I
struggled
and
that
wasn't
the
job
I
was
supposed
to
have
when
I
started.
B
A
B
I
can't
even
remember,
because
I
didn't
even
get
to
start
it.
I
had
like
she
quit
three
weeks
after
I
started,
so
I
can't
even
remember
I
just
remember
it
was
not
well
paid.
A
So
so
you
went
from
a
small
team
at
a
you
know
an
object
rocket.
How
did
you
go
from?
How
did
you
go
from
that
right?
Give
give
me
that
what
that
leap,
frog
looked
like
career-wise
from
your
first.
Would
you
say
your
first
quote-unquote
tech
role
was:
was
that
everyone
objective
to
what
you're
doing
now.
B
I
it's
hard
it's
hard
to
it's,
not
even
hard
to
say
it's.
It's
easy.
I
guess
I
remember
I
was
sort
of
sick
of
of
object
rocket
after
after
the
founders
left.
It
just
wasn't
the
same
anymore
right.
So
I
remember
like
we
had
lots
of
conversations
about
this
in
that
194
kitchen
kitchen.
B
I
was
interviewing.
I
think
I
interviewed
with
heptio.
That
was
the
missed
opportunity.
Sorry
kevin.
I
also
interviewed
with
I
can't
even
remember
I
interviewed
with
a
couple
of
people,
and
I
was
sort
of
down
to
heptio
and
pivotal,
and
my
friend
andrew
clay
shaper
ran
a
a
a
team
at
pivotal.
B
Bridgette
was
on
it
and
I
was
like
oh
man,
it'll
be
really
cool
to
work
with
bridgette
he's
like
yeah
come
on
come
on
over
here
like
we'll
pay,
you
well
you'll
love
it
you'll
get
to
do
relatively
the
same
things
that
you're
doing
now.
Just
you
know,
without
a
team-
and
I
was
like
oh,
it
would
be
nice
to
not
have
a
team
anymore.
It'd
be
nice
to
kind
of
be
in
ic
again,
so
pivotal
ended
up
hiring
me
10
weeks
into
that
job.
B
Microsoft
came
knocking
and
they
were
like
hey.
You
want
to
come
over
here
and
I
was
like
I
don't
know.
I
work
with
open
source
communities
that
doesn't
sound
smart
for
me,
they're
like
no,
it's
like
we've
changed
and
I
was
like:
okay
prove
it,
so
I
went
into
that
interview
kind
of
like
kind
of
cocky
about
it,
like
oh
yeah,
prove
it
and
so
that
they
ended
up
doing
that
and
about
a
couple
of
months
into
the
microsoft
job.
B
A
I
was
going
to
go,
beat
somebody
up
from
microsoft
for
that
case,
okay,
very,
very
much
better.
Now,
what
I
think
was
interesting
was
around
that
time.
A
It's
like,
as
you
got
in
people,
started
noting
that
again
that
you
did
contributions
to
the
community
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
coding
like
I
seem
to
remember
a
gopher
or
something
like
that
and
other
kind
of
cool
little
things
that
you
added
to
the
community
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
code
that
made
the
community
much
much
like,
like
think
about
like
who
remember
like
we
all,
I'm
pretty
sure,
have
seen
the
go
go
first
like
in
the
various
creations
you've
made
like
that
and
they're
like
oh
well.
A
A
Those
things
are
important
too,
but
having
that
thing
that
sticks
in
your
mind
like
something
as
simple
as
a
mascot
or
a
logo
or
a
just
a
a
cute
thing
to
remind
you
or
represent
the
community,
you
you
belong
to
or
contribute
to
that's
important,
and
those
are
things
that
again,
if
you're,
not
if
you're,
just
a
traditional
kind
of
like
csg
and
things
like
that,
you're-
probably
not
going
to
think
about
it.
That
way.
A
You're,
probably
not
going
to
maybe
even
be
able
to
create
the
things
like
that
or
give
them
the
vibrance
and
add
them
at
the
right
thing.
At
the
right
time
like
you
have-
and
I
think
that's
super
important
like
I
remember
like
just
seeing
that-
and
I
was
like
that
is
cool
as
hell
and
everyone.
A
Everyone
loves
ashley
mcnamara,
because
she's,
brilliant,
smart
and
talented,
because
you
are
right,
but
letting
people
see
that
in
a
way
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
number
of
commits
you've
made
to
github
or
how
many
cds
you've
done
or
whatever
the
other
arbitrary
metrics.
A
We
have
to
try
and
measure
people's
contributions
and
seeing
that
for
me
and
seeing
this
you
know,
as
the
kids
say,
this
glow
up,
that
you've
had
and
have
people
give
you
the
chance
to
be
great
and
to
have
you
see
you
seize
that
chance
and
really,
you
know
just
really
excel.
It
has
just
been
amazing
as
you're
as
you're
as
a
person
in
the
industry
and
as
your
friend,
it's
been
amazing,
to
watch
right.
A
You
know
just
I'm
back
here,
like
you
know
you
know,
and
and
to
full
disclosure
ashton,
I
have,
you
know,
have
had
many
she's,
like
many
conversations
in
that
1904
kitchen
over
text
over
whatever
just
about
what's
going
on
in
each
other's
lives
and-
and
it's
just
been
really
amazing
to
see
and
and
what
I
think
that
the
important
thing
that
I
have
seen
and
I've
benefited
from.
I
think
that
I'd
like
maybe
you
to
touch
on
is
like
talk
about
some
of
the
like
you
talk
about.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
think
the
thing
about
me
is
I've
never
had
an
ego
about
the
things
I
know
or
don't
know.
I've
always
contributed
where
I
think
I
can
contribute
if
it
stops.
If
it's
cold,
it's
design
whatever
it
is,
whatever
people
need.
I
don't
need
to
be
the
smartest
person
in
the
room
and
in
fact
I'd
rather
not
be
the
smartest
person
in
the
room.
B
I
think,
like
the
latest
silliest
team
change
that
we
had
was.
I
I
now
have
all
of
the
language
teams
under
me.
That
is
an
amazing
opportunity.
I
know
language
communities,
but
I
don't
know
javascript.
I
have
a
javascript
team
under
me.
They
are
a
very
high
performing
team.
That
was
an
opportunity
for
me,
but
I
had
to
lean
on
those
experts
in
in
that
team.
I
have
to
lean
on
that
team
lead.
I
can
help
drive
strategy,
but
for
technical
decisions.
B
So
I
have
to
be
very
clear
about
the
things
that
I
don't
know
and
accept
that
be
okay
with
that
and
learn
with
them,
but
know
who
the
expert
in
the
room
is,
and
sometimes
it's
not
me
and
that's,
okay,
and
I
think
that
in
tech
we're
so
eager
to
to
pretend
we
know
more
than
we
do,
especially
if
we
have
a
large
following
on
twitter
and
that
sucks.
B
B
The
latest
thing
I
did
was
my
nanny's,
a
cs
student
she's
for
us
during
the
summer
and
she
goes
back
to
school,
soon,
she's,
19
years
old.
She
knows
java,
she's,
brilliant
she's
smart.
B
B
I
think
that
that's
the
least
I
could
do
with
the
following
that
I
have
is
help
give
people
opportunities,
especially
people
who
are
just
starting
out
like
she
has
a
traditional
experience
with
you
know,
she's
going
through
university
of
washington
getting
her
cs
degree,
that's
traditional,
but
she
still
needs
help,
especially
after
school.
A
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
the
thing
that
I
still
contribute
or
think
about
contributing
I
still
send
to
people
is
that
you
created
a
like
kind
of
like
a
guide
or
a
compilation
of
resources
for
folks
out
there
trying
to
learn
things
on
their
own
and
it's
it's
on
your
it's
on
your
github
page
and
which
I
think
is
brilliant
and
it's
it's
awesome
that
you
do
that
if
you
haven't
seen
it
we'll
I'll
post
that
up
make
sure
people
see
it,
because
I
do
think
you
said
like
you
haven't
updated
in
a
while,
and
you
know
sure
we
can.
A
We
can
keep
that
curated,
but
you've
done
a
massive
amount
of
work
to
to
have
that
there
and
it's
helped
a
lot
of
people
out.
The
other
thing
that
I
saw
the
other
thing
that
I
really
loved
that
you
did.
I
guess
was
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
too,
it
might
have
been
just
before
the
pandemic.
I
don't
remember,
but
you
you
just
step
back
and
it's
like
you
know
what
I'm
not
gonna.
Don't
don't
contact
me
for
talks
right
here.
A
You
know
contact
a
a
person
of
color
or
something
like
that
and
more
people
who
are
more
marginalized
communities.
Please
go
ask
them
to
talk
right,
which
I
think
is
fantastic.
I
mean
not
not
that
we
don't
need
more
women
to
to
talk
and
more,
nor
you
know,
would
represent
to
be
represented
in
talks
and
in
panels,
and
things
like
that.
A
But
for
you
to
say
like
yeah
like,
I
would
also
you
know,
benefit
from
being
white,
and
I
want
more
people
who
are
marginalized
to
be
able
to
to
have
a
voice
and
to
be
seen
and
represented.
A
B
So
I
did
that
because
I
noticed
that
I
kept
seeing
the
same
people
on
stage.
I
already
have
a
platform.
I
can
speak
to
the
void
on
twitter
and
people
are
gonna.
Listen,
I
I
don't
need
more,
I'm
not
benefiting
anymore.
By
doing
another
talk,
so
I
wanted
to
see
different
faces
faces.
I
had
not
seen.
I
knew
people
wanted
to
be
on
stage.
You
can
see
it
people
tweet
about
it.
B
So
when
I
decided
to
step
back
because
I
wanted
to
see
different
people,
I
wanted
to
help
other
people
build
their
their
platform.
I
do
benefit
from
my
platform
a
lot,
but
again
I
have
one
already.
So
what
was
the
second
part
of
your
question?
Tim.
A
Actually,
you
know
just
like
you,
I
am
horrendously
adhd
and
I
don't
remember
what
the
second
half
oh
yeah
like
it
was:
where
do
we
stand
on
the
on
there
and
what
do
you
well
how
about
this?
What
do
you
think
we
still
can
do
like
what
are
some?
What
are
the
what
are
some
of
the
low-hanging
fruits?
A
You
think
that
we
can
do
in
the
industry
when
it
comes
to
especially
like,
during
you
know,
virtual
talks
and
whatever
to
to
get
more
representation
in
conferences
and
talks
and
other
methods
of
engagement.
B
B
While
they
have
the
best
of
intentions,
sometimes
don't
always
execute
in
that
way
right,
like
they're
trying
to
optimize
for
like
they
want
people
to
come
to
their
conference.
They
want
people
to
buy
tickets,
they
want
the
lineup
to
be
something
that
they
know
is
going
to
be
good
right
and
you
have
to.
B
B
It's
hard
as
a
conference
organizer
to
make
those
decisions,
but
we
have
to
force
them
to
by
not
allowing
them
our
time
if
the
lineup
is
not
diverse.
A
Yeah,
I
think
one
of
the
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
got
railed
about
in
the
in
the
before
times
was
that
you
know
we
have
these
conferences
and
you
know
not
only
are
the
are
the
panels,
not
not
very
diverse,
but
we
have
these
conferences
in
the
most
expensive
real
estate
in
the
world.
You
know
at
times
where
it's
dif,
you
know,
especially
during
you
know
the
school
year
or
whatever
you
have
them
during
the
week.
You
have
them
in
very
expensive
places.
A
You
cost
thousands
of
dollars
the
hotels
cost,
thousands
of
dollars
and
the
plane
tickets
cost
thousands
of
dollars,
and
you
make
it
it's
as
exclusive
as
possible
for
people
to
be
able
to
come
right.
If
you
are
a
college
student,
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
money,
it's
gonna
be
hard
for
you
to
come.
If
you
are
a
single
parent
right
and
you
have
to
find
someone
to
take
care
of
your
kids
while
you're
there,
it's
going
to
be
hard
for
you
to
come.
A
You
know
charge
it
charge
charge
your
vendors,
you
know
because
everyone's
making
money
off
it,
but
certainly
folks
who
are
trying
to
come
and
just
you
know,
capitalize
an
opportunity
for
their
careers.
Maybe
we
don't
charge
them
and
I've
seen
more
people
do
that
during
virtual
conferences,
because
the
overhead
is
a
lot
lower,
but
you
know
going
forward
as
we
go.
You
know
back
into
whatever
the
normal
looks
like
after
this
you
know.
Do
we
go
back
to
that
model
where
it's
really
expensive
or
really
exclusionary?
Or
do
we
try
to
do
better?
A
I
don't
know
it's,
I'm
not
a
conference
organizer
either.
It's
easy
for
me
to
sit
back
here
in
my
chair
behind
this
keyboard
and
say:
well,
you
should
do
this.
You
should
do
this.
You
should
do
this.
I
don't
know
so,
if
you're
a
conference
organizer
and
I'm
wrong,
you
want
to
tell
me
to
get
bent.
Please
please
no
like,
like
seriously.
No,
no,
no,
no
tino
shade!
Please
add
me
on
twitter
right
because
I
would
love
to
have
that
conversation
and
figure
out
what
we
can
do.
A
I
will
pick
on
matt
stratton
for
devops
days,
because
everyone
I
like
to
pick
on
matt
stratton,
because
he's
he's
he's
just
a
big
salty
and
I
love
him
to
death,
but
also
you
know,
he's
really
really
open
to
being
held
accountable
for
things
and
I've
come
out
and
was
like
y'all
should
do
this,
and
you
also
do
this
and
you
also
do
this.
This
is
very
this
is
this
is
very
low
effort
for
you
to
do
to
try
and
make
things
more
exclusionary.
A
I
mean
not
exclusionary
trying
to
make
things
less
exclusionary
and
more
inclusive.
It's
like
yeah,
you
know
we're
gonna,
we
can.
We
can
try
and
do
that-
which
I
think
is
important.
So,
aside
from
all
all
that
right,
I
know
that
we're
now
going
into
fall
right
and,
as
I
understand
you
are
the
most
basic
of
white
women,
have
you
had
your
first
pumpkin
spice
latte,
yet.
A
A
You
might
you
might
welcome
the
live
streaming,
ladies
and
gentlemen
and
other
folks
that
are
not,
ladies
or
gentlemen,
so
ashley.
Let
me
let
me
ask
you
this
all
right,
so
we're
both
we're
both
on
the
bird
site
and
you
know
we're
both
somewhat
active
right.
B
Oh,
no,
I
I
can
think
of
a
lot
of
things.
Some
are
not
safe
for
work,
so
I
think
somebody
should
ring.
I
think
there
should
be
a
review
committee
for
any
anonymous
photos
sent
to
sent
to
women.
I
think
I
don't
know
we
could
go
back
and
forth
on
an
edit
button.
I
I
I've
been
sold
either
way.
I
don't
know
tim.
What
would
you
do.
B
See,
that's
good!
That's
good!
B
That's
good!
Maybe
not
allow
you
to
tweet
until
you
have
a
at
least
a
picture,
and
you
know
some
sort
of
content
available.
A
Here's
the
other
thing
I
would
do
this
is
actually
releasing,
and
I
wish
they
could
simply
do
this
for
phones,
but
I
would
make
it.
I
would
make
verification
super
super
simple,
unlike
they
do
now
where,
as
long
as
you
have
like,
like
you
know
how
you
verify
yourself
for
key
base,
yeah
like
if
you
could
use
that
process
to
verify
verify
yourself
on
twitter,
so
that
the
vast
majority
of
legitimate
twitter
users
can
be
verified
right.
B
A
Not
a
lot
yeah,
I
I
am
ineligible
to
be
verified.
Why?
Because,
because
I
don't,
I
don't
have
enough
followers
or
I'm
not
a
news
like
I'm,
not
newsy
enough,
I'm
not
an
organization,
I'm
not
a
professional
athlete,
yeah
yeah
yeah
and
I
didn't
I
didn't
get
in.
I
wasn't
wide
enough
just
to
get
in
to
be
like
verified
with.
You
know,
an
account
a
two-month-old
account
with
30
followers,
so
that
happens.
A
A
No,
you
know
make
verification
easy
so
that
you
know
maps
back
to
a
person.
You
know
profile
picture
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
like
that
and
then
allow
yourself
to
only
be
viewed
by
comments
and
replies
from
and
and
dms
only
from
verified
accounts.
B
Yeah,
that
would
be
nice.
I
do
like
the
new
feature
where
you
can.
You
can
select,
who
can
reply
to
your
posts.
A
But
but
yeah,
I
think,
because
there's
there's
a
lot
of
bad
things
about
the
word
site
right,
but
I
do
think-
and
I
will
say
for
me
at
least
especially
during
the
pandemic,
the
ability
to
reach
out
to
people
and
talk
to
people
all
across
the
globe
whenever
that
are
within
a
circle.
Right
has
been
literally
a
lifesaver.
You
know
in
a
lot
of
cases
where
it's
just
like
hey,
you
know
someone
can
respond
back.
A
A
B
When
I
stopped
having
hard
opinions
on
twitter,
the
experience
was
much
better
for
better
for
worse.
A
B
It's
interesting
so
you
know
my
nanny
just
joined
and
right
now
it's
amazing
and
it's
helpful
and
everyone
wants
to
show
off
what
they
know
right.
Like
I'm,
gonna
teach
you
something:
I'm
gonna
help
you,
but
then
you
know
my
good
friend
sarah
drazner
her
mentions
are
a
dumpster
fire
and
it's
because
she
knows
what
she's
doing
she
knows
what
she's
talking
about
and
she's
an
expert.
She
tweets
about
tech
and
everyone
just
wants
to
argue
with
her
and
tell
her
she's
wrong
right.
B
So
it's
interesting
how
the
the
dynamic
between
the
two
accounts
and
that
I've
already
warned
nancy
about
this,
like
hey
as
you
become
more
confident
and
you
start
tweeting
the
things
that
you
know
the
same
people
who
are
there
to
to
rescue
you
and
teach
you
will
be
the
same
people
so
well.
Actually
you
later.
A
Yeah,
it's
the
it's
the
competition
to
be
the
smartest
person
in
the
room.
It
goes
back
to
what
you
said
before.
Like
you
know,
the
the
best
people
I've
ever
worked
with
are
don't
have
those
egos
they're,
not
saying
like
yeah,
I
have
to
be
the
smartest
number
one,
the
the
most.
You
know
alpha
geek
in
the
in
the
teams
that
I've
enjoyed
working
on
the
most
where
everyone
you
know
hey.
A
I
know
about
this
and
I
can
talk
to
this,
but
I
don't
know
about
this,
but
this
person
does
know
about
this
and-
and
you
go
to
that
kind
of
like
very
very
it
is
it's
team-centric,
it's
like
I.
You
know
I
specialize
in
this,
like
you
know,
playing
it's
like
playing
team
fortress
back
in
the
day,
somebody's
really
good
heavy
weapons.
That's
great!
But
they're,
not
a
good
sniper!
Can't
snipe!
You
know,
can
you
snipe
with
them
with
the
gatling
gun?
Maybe,
but
you
should
it's
not
a
great
idea.
B
A
B
A
Yeah
I
gave
it
up
when
I
think
after
I
had
crossed
like
the
30
000
threshold
and
how
much
I
invested
in
a
computer
for
gaming.
I
was
like
this
is
dumb
and
I
bought
a
console
and
I
stopped
gaming
well
like
every
now
and
then
I
play
a
couple
games,
but
I
don't
have
the
time.
I
certainly
don't
have
the
money
and
I
just
don't
have
the
patience
anymore
to
be
into
it
like
I
used
to
be
into
it
where
I'm
like.
A
A
A
B
He's
working
at
a
startup
he's
still
buying
silly
cars.
A
Did
he
get
anything
else
since
the
minivan
he's
got
a
bmw
coming
a
bmw?
What.
B
A
A
B
A
Yeah,
just
just
just
for
the
full
disclosure
ashley
has
two
children,
and
you
know
that
are
young
enough
to
be
under
her
care.
I
have
four
children,
I
care
and
I
just
wore
off
swore
off
minivans
forever.
A
B
B
A
Like
I
can't,
I
can't
talk,
but
so
much
because
I
got
rid
of
my
you
know:
infinity
red
sport
400
for
a
dodge,
durango
gt
like
so
I
I
had
choices
too,
but
at
least
it
wasn't
moving,
but.
B
A
B
I
I'm
working
on
three
hours
of
sleep
and
at
this
stage
I'm
just
trying
to
make
it
day
by
day.
You
know
what
I
mean.
A
Yeah,
until
until
until
little
marlowe
sleeps
all
the
way
through
the
night.
B
Yeah
she's
one
in
a
couple
days,
so
any
day
would
be
great.
A
A
Okay
and
like
I'll
post
up
that,
I
will
post
up
the
link
to
your
github
repository
yeah,
learn
the
card
repo.
Please
help
update
that
keep
keep
it
up
to
date.
If
you
want
to,
it
is.
B
A
Yeah-
and
I
will
continue
to
to
advocate
and
support
you,
my
friend,
because
you
are
doing
awesome
things,
and
I
cannot
wait
to
see
what
you
do
next.
So
I
am
tim
banks,
and
this
has
been
solid
state.
Thank
y'all,
bye.