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From YouTube: CNCF TOC Meeting 2023-02-28
Description
Closed TOC meeting to review sandbox project applications:
https://github.com/orgs/cncf/projects/14
Reviewed today:
Clusternet
Inspektor Gadget
kluclt
LoxiLB
A
B
B
Everyone
today
is
February
28th,
and
this
is
sandbox
meeting
and
we
are
going
to
start
with
our
board
so
the
upcoming
meeting
today
we
we're
going
to
talk
about
at
least
four
of
them.
The
first
one
is
cluster
net
and
for
cluster
net.
It's
a
resubmission,
and
last
time
we
told
folks
that
we
needed
to
see
more
activity.
B
Let's
go
check
that,
but
just
to
remind
everybody
what
we're
talking
about
here.
Maybe
we
should
go
through
it
quickly.
Repo
URL.
B
That's
the
GitHub
org,
so
managing
your
kubernetes
clusters
as
easily
as
visiting
the
internet.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
it
supports
multiple
clouds,
Edge
and
stuff
helps
you
manage
Millions,
thousands
or
millions
of
kubernetes
classes
as
since,
okay.
A
So
so
things
are
talking
about
taking
a
look
at
this
I
have
to
add
one
service,
yeah
I've.
Also
this
before
yeah
I.
Think
it's
a
good
project
or
it
has
you
know
the
provider
good
features
and
on
the
information
about
the
design
is,
is,
you
know,
is
good
enough?
Has
enough
information
as
far
as
I
know,
the
it's
also
last
times
comment
was
I
think
this
is
a
contribution.
Not
much
contribution
is
that
the
company.
A
Yeah,
it
looks
like
I
think
it's
worked
with
some
well,
you
know
as
well
without
romantic
and
also
has
quite
some
activity.
Okay,.
D
D
E
F
I
think
that
they've
been
doing
better
I,
don't
think
that
their
ideal
like
when
we
ask
for
more
participation,
I,
don't
think
that
we
they've
hit
the
expectation
that
we
had
said
at
that
time,
but
I
think
they're
close
enough.
If
we
accept
them,
I
would
just
add
a
caveat
that
their
cluster
nut
can
contributing
guide
lacks
the
guidelines
that
they
said
that
they
would
put
in
it.
F
C
Thank
you,
so
voting
voting
is
going
to
be
a
little
different
this
time.
So
what.
G
C
Going
to
happen
is
I'm
going
to
come
in
here
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
That's
9
A.M
Pacific
and
kick
off
a
vote
from
here.
You
get
to
come
in
and
basically
use
GitHub,
and
it
will
tell
you
everything
in
the
particular
issue
about
how
to
be
able
to
vote
the
reason
that
I'm
doing
it
at
9.
A.M
Pacific
is
because
we
have
a
week
to
vote
and
if
the
vote
will
automatically
close
at
9
A.M
Pacific
on
March
7th,
so
good.
C
Comments
keep
your
votes
in
your
head.
All
of
that,
but
we're
not
going
to
do
a
direct
vote
like
in
this
particular
meeting.
You.
B
B
C
B
Okay
sounds
good:
okay,
okay,
I'm
closing
this
one,
then
the
next
one
is
Inspector
Gadget.
This
is
from
friends
at
Microsoft,
packaging
deployment
and
execution
of
ebpf
programs,
including
mainly
based
on
BCC
tools,.
F
Yep
at
the
time
we
made
the
decision
that,
because
they
were
only
packaging,
ebpf
programs
into
containers
that
wasn't
anything
special
for
cloud
native
yeah.
B
B
B
So
we
do
have
one
question
here
that
raised
up.
Do
you
remember
this
one
Nikita.
C
Is
what
legal
the
legal
committee
over
on
our
end?
Okay?
So
no
need
to
take
that
into
account.
Okay,.
B
You,
like
it
yeah
good,
did
you
use
it
for
containery,
stuff
or
kubernetes,
or
both
to
reduce
okay.
A
Yeah
I
I
think
it
provides
very
useful
information,
debugging
right,
the
communities
I
think
it's
very
important.
I'll
pick
I
think
this
contributes
to
that.
D
G
Specifically,
it
kind
of
sits
in
the
middle
of
like
so
you
have
the
ability
to
Target
lead
to
Target
a
specific
workload,
as
opposed
to
like
a
lot
of
things,
a
lot
of
the
other
tooling,
that's
out
there
that
will
just
Target
everything,
and
then
you
just
dealt
with
a
whole
lot
of
data.
This
is
more
like
point.
This
is
more
like
a
point
solution,
you're
looking
at
you're,
trying
to
understand
what's
happening
within
specific
pod
or
a
specific
process,
and
this
tooling
lets
you
really
focus
on
that
problem.
B
So
it
feels
like
they
are,
they
are
talking
to
the
API
server
too.
Then
you
get
that
okay
yeah.
There
is
enough
number
of
issues,
enough
number
of
pull
requests.
D
B
B
Okay,
I'm
satisfied
here
to
put
to
put
this
to
an
old
vote.
A
Yeah
I
think
we
can
add
that
you
know
they
if
they
can
extend
their
contributor,
the
more
diversity
like
from
other
companies.
That
would
be
good.
B
Yeah,
you
know
that
is
on
the
Mandate
for
sandbox
itself.
So
but
you
know
never
hurts
to
remind
people
and
that's
what
they
are
here
for
so
plus
one.
Oh,
that's.
D
What
they
also
mentioned
it
in
the
issue
body
itself
that
they
would
like
to
apply
for
sandbox
so
that
they
can
grow
their
contribute
to
this.
B
The
next
one
is
clue,
cuddle,
clue,
cuddle.
B
Koda
black
responded
to
that
and
then
Emily.
You
responded
them
to
go
talk
to
the
tag.
I,
don't
see
a
notation
whether
they
have
actually
gone
and
talked
to
the
tag
yet
I.
D
So
I
was
looking
at
this.
I
haven't
tried
it
out,
but
I
was
already
like.
It
seems
to
seems
to
do
things
so
one
one
sort
of
custom
combined,
customize
and
help
in
a
way.
So,
for
example,
it
can
add
templating
on
top
of
customization,
manifest
and
so
on.
So
in
my
opinion,
I
think
if
you
want
to
use
Hellman
customized
together
today,
that
is
already
supported
in
projects
like
flux
already,
so
you
can
already
add
substitutions
for
customize
or
patches
for
Helm
shots.
D
Today
and
like
it's
called
out
there,
Helen
file
is
also
another
existing
tool
that
you
can
use
to
manage.
Help
chats
in
one
go.
D
The
second
thing
that
it
does
claims
to
do
is
like
multi-environment
support,
so
you
can
reply
to
different
environments
like
Dev
fraud
and
so
on,
but
this
can
also
be
done
today
using
customized
overlays
and
it's
already
supported
in
flux
and
Argo
CD,
but
I
think
the
main
technical
matter
that
this
tool
has
is
that
it's
simple
enough,
so
it
can
do
configuration
management
like
without
any
extra
cluster
side
dependencies,
so
no
controllers,
no
crds
and
so
on,
but
I
personally,
not
convinced
that
this
is
enough
to
Warrant
being
in
the
sandbox
and
I.
D
Think
one
thing
that
could
be
a
very
big
blocker
is
that
it
seems
to
be
a
one-person
project.
I
think
the
authors
also
called
it
out
in
the
issue.
So
I
I
don't
really
see
this
as
a
good
fit
for
sandbox.
As
of
now.
F
Right
I
would
agree,
I'd
like
to
see
them
go,
have
a
discussion
with
app
delivery
to
get
more
feedback
from
them
as
well
as
potentially
expose
them
to
more
contributors.
H
B
Sounds
good
Matt,
so
Matt
can
you
cut
and
paste
that
or
write
in
your
own
words
here.
H
B
H
Move
here,
I
can
come
back
to
this
issue
and
make
a
comment
on
it.
B
Do
we
want
to
vote,
or
do
we
want
to
just
say
that
explicitly
like
I?
Don't
want
them
to
feel
that
they're
hitting
a
minus
one,
a
bunch
of
minus
once
Amy?
What
do
you
think
I
don't
know.
C
A
B
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
wanted
to
chime
in
here.
A
B
Okay,
let's
go
to
the
next
one,
then
the
next
one
is
lock
c
l
b.
B
This
is
one
of
our
projects
that
comes
from
the
East
Asia
region
in
most
of
the
people,
I
saw
where,
from
there
again
EBP,
if
it's
hot,
so
they're
going
with
that
and
it's
a
load
balancer
and
it
looks
like
they,
they
are
in
the
edge
space.
A
lot
yeah.
B
For
each
on-prem
cloud
provider,
so
I
guess
that
that's
a
good
thing.
B
Okay,
going
to
their
repository,
South,
Korea,
cubicle
or
dbpf.
B
So
I
did
find
one
when
I
last
look.
There
was
one
repo
in
the
Gita
board,
which
was
missing
so
I
asked
him
to
add
it.
D
At
the
time
to
like
look
at
this
deeply,
but
from
a
quick
glance,
a
couple
of
things
stood
out
was
there
was
some
GitHub
discussions
that
were
like
the
maintenance
was
really
proactive
in
answering
feedback
and
I
saw
a
blog
post
from
someone
who
has
tried
who
used
this
project
and
they
had
some
feedback
on
bug,
reports
and
feature
requests
and
the
maintainers
actually
responded
to
them
and
also
implemented
this
feature
request.
So
that
was
nice
to
see
you
one
other
thing
that
stood
out
to
me
was
they.
D
It
doesn't
really
have
to
be
a
blocker
but
like
they
have
a
custom
Fork
of
the
IP
Route
2
package,
because
they
need
some
patches
to
properly
lower
and
unload
evpf
modules.
I
am
personally
not
a
huge
fan
of
having
a
folks
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
see
them
either.
Upstream
these
patches
or
work
with
the
community
to
find
a
solution,
and
again
most
of
the
contributors
seem
to
be
from
a
single
company
that
created
this
project,
quit
again,
I
think,
maybe
being
in
the
sandbox
sensor,
Community
destruction.
D
F
E
B
The
first
external
was
zero,
eight
zero,
which
has
all
the
things,
and
then,
after
that,
it's
been
like
not
too
many
changes.
Yeah,
it's
like
four,
the
three
other
tags
between
them
have
five
PR's.
B
Yeah,
let's
use
the
same
thing
that
we
used
for
clue:
Cuttle.
D
B
C
To
work
with
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
Pieces
come
together,
okay,
so
all
right
looks
like
we
will
be
opening
two
votes,
both.