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From YouTube: CNCF TOC Meeting 2023-03-07
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CNCF TOC Meeting 2023 03 07
Projects moving levels
TAG Updates
A
A
All
right
we've
got
enough
focus
on
the
line
for
me
to
be
able
to
kind
of
move
us
forward.
So
welcome
welcome
to
everybody
on
the
phone.
Welcome
to
everybody
watching
the
recording.
This
is
our
normal
Toc
meeting
for
March
7th
and
here's
our
agenda
we're
doing
things
a
little
different
today,
I've
moved
the
projects
to
be
able
to
like
applying
the
move
levels
to
move
up,
and
we've
got
a
little
bit
around
the
projects
that
are
currently
waiting
out
in
public.
So
then
we'll
drop
on
tags.
F
A
C
G
D
G
C
A
A
E
G
A
H
A
C
A
H
Hey
yeah
I
will
do
an
update
for
Tech
storage,
so
we
are
still
trying
to
bring
clown
native
peachy
back
for
another
presentation.
We
have
also
been
reaching
out
to
other
cncf
story.
Projects
for
project
updates,
most
of
the
incubating
graduated
30
projects
have
already
presented
recently.
So
now
we
are
more
focusing
on
the
sandbox
projects.
H
We
have
the
outline
ready
and
people
have
started
to
write
a
paper,
we're
hoping
to
have
a
draft
out
by
cubecon
and
last
time
Toc
asked.
If
people
are
reading
those
published
white
papers,
Alex
has
set
up
a
short
URL
for
those
documents.
So
if
someone
accessed
the
URL
knows
a
record
of
course,
if
someone
access
it
directly
from
our
GitHub-
that's
not
tracked
by
this,
but
we
do
have
some
stats.
It
showed
that
the
storage
landscape
by
paper
had
about
3
000
views
and
their
colony
of
dr1
had
about
1500
views.
H
B
C
J
Yeah,
so
so
maybe
I
can
I
can
cover
some
and
then,
and
if
you
want
to
jump
in
and
some
of
them,
so
we
have
a
security
assessment
photograph.
This
is
something
with
by
Justin,
gapos,
basically
kind
of
a
rundown
on.
How
do
you
go
about
starting
a
security
assessment?
A
lot
of
things
you
have
to
go
into
the
we
are
seeking
contributors
here.
K
Yes,
absolutely
so,
courtesy
of
all
the
hard
work
from
individuals
on
this
call
and
then
tax
security.
We
have
a
Defcon
esque
inspired
security
Village
at
kubecon
Amsterdam
that
will
comprise
an
auditorium
some
unconference
breakout
space,
the
CTF
itself
and
some
collaborative
workshopping
areas.
We
have
a
cfp
now
open
for
that.
It
is
outside
of
the
usual
process,
we're
hoping
next
year
to
be
a
little
bit
more
joined
up,
but
just
coming
off
the
back
of
cloud
native
security
con
everyone
was
a
little
bit
busy
and
yeah.
J
J
The
companies
are
securely
quite
paper
version
two
for
the
white
paper
version.
Two,
the
audio
recording
is
done.
We're
looking
for
a
few
more
reviews
before
we
publish
it
so
I
need
feedback,
get
focus
on
this
and
that
they'll
be
great.
We
also
have
a
the
security
supply
chain.
Working
group
is
starting
up
on
our
next
project,
which
is
what
is
a
skilled
supply
chain
policy.
This
mainly
kind
of
answers,
the
question
of
like,
when
you
say
well,.
L
J
K
Yes,
absolutely
we
are
still
undergoing
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
which
level
this
review
occurs
at
there
have
been
some
private
reviews
and
taken
and
we're
moving
towards
just
getting
to
a
shared
understanding
of
how
lightweight
or
at
one
extreme
or
involved
with
the
sort
of
self-assessment
and
full
security
process.
We
are
going
to
be
for
this.
K
E
B
M
F
Thanks
Ricardo,
so
hey
everyone,
since
the
last
stack
update,
we've
had
project
presentations
from
the
case
of
and
flat
car.
So
for
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
case
of
it's,
a
machine
learning
inference
platform
on
kubernetes
they're,
actually
a
member
of
the
LF
Ai
and
data
Foundation
right
now,
but
they
see
more
alignment
with
the
cncf,
because
Cube
flow
is
applied
as
an
incubating
project
under
the
cmcf
and
there's
also
like
a
lot
of
cross
collaboration
with
other
cnci
projects
like
kubernetes,
Argo
and
so
on.
F
There's
actually
one
issue
open
in
the
TOC
repo
right
now
for
exploring
the
possibility
of
projects
existing
as
a
part
of
two
or
more
foundations.
We
weren't
really
sure
how
feasible
the
two
foundations
think
as
it
is
at
this
point,
though,
so
we
recommended
case
of
to
each
other,
the
cnca
staff
or
in
the
process
to
move
the
project
from
LF
AI
to
the
cncf.
F
So
whether
flat
car
is
an
electric
store
fits
within
the
cncf
landscape,
but
that
is
probably
out
of
the
scope
of
tagline
type
We've
also
had
a
lot
of
interest
from
other
projects
who
want
to
present
at
Agra
type,
including
Kera,
who
has
also
applied
for
graduation
and
overall,
the
interest
has
been
really
overwhelming.
It
looks
like
we
might
need
to
set
up
additional
meeting
outside
of
a
regular
Cadence
to
accommodate
for
all
of
these
projects.
F
Again
now,
moving
on
to
working
group,
Activities
The,
iot
Edge
working
group
is
continuing
to
work
on
the
edge
native
application
principles,
white
paper
and
also
the
Azure
native
landscape,
which
has
been
progressing
well
so
far
and
along
similar
lines,
the
batch
working
group
is
working
on
a
one-pager
for
the
main
tools
available
in
the
cncf
batch
landscape
today
and
on
the
CBI.
That
is,
the
container
device
interface
side
of
things.
F
A
new
version
of
CDI
was
released
and
support
was
added
for
this
version
and
containerd
cryo
and
some
other
projects
are
in
the
works
for
coupon.
We
will
have
a
tagline
time
presentation
and
we
are
also
planning
to
have
a
tag
meeting
so
we'd
love
to
see
anyone
in
the
community
join
including
new
folks,
even
if
you've
not
interacted
with
tag
runtime
before
and
even
other
tags
for
that
matter.
Hopefully
we
could
do
some
sort
of
cross
stack
collaboration
in
the
meeting
so
yeah.
That's
it
for
the
tag.
Runtime
update,
yeah.
M
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
for
the
slack
car
presentation
we
did
have
probably
the
highest
participation
of
any
meetings
with
about
20
people,
so
we
get
in
a
lot
of
traction
and
attacks.
So
it's
great
to
see
Community
growing.
We
have
the
three
working
groups
with
lots
of
stuff
happening
and
Ian.
We
continue
to
reach
out
to
different
projects,
to
engage
with
attack
and,
like
Nikita
said
that
we
usually
have
meetings
twice
a
month,
but
we're
thinking
about
expanding
that.
B
B
I
Everyone
so
I
guess
before
before
I
go
through
the
specifics.
Well,
there's
an
echo
I'll
say
that
the
tag
could
absolutely
use
contribution,
particularly
in
the
form
of
project
management
as
well
as
more
technical
technical
leads,
as
well
as
likely
a
third
chair.
So
there's
a
it's
a
it's
a
huge
space,
that's
growing
quickly
and
there's
a
lot
of
work,
scoped
and
defined,
but
not
resourced.
I
So
again,
if
anyone
knows
anyone
that
wants
to
dive
into
any
of
this
or
a
whole
bunch
of
other
stuff
that
we've
got
in
our
issues
on
the
on
the
repo,
please
do
reach
out.
So
there's
a
couple
initiatives
happening.
There's
an
observability
query
standard
work
group:
this
is
some
folks
out
of
Netflix
and
a
few
other
places
they
got
together
around
I.
Believe
last
kubecon
is
when
they
started
talking.
I
So
that's
pretty
exciting
and
it
it's
a
good
example
of
where
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
Apache
to
projects
that
are
outside
the
cncf,
and
this
is
an
example
of
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
could
use
more
more
help
around
I'm,
really
sorry,
there's
something
going
on
with
tile
and
I.
Don't
know
what
it
is.
I
It's
making
that
happen
anyway.
There's
a
project,
for
example,
called
substrate,
which
aims
to
basically
be
a
meta
level,
SQL
compiler,
if
you
will
to
allow
for
interoperability
between
different
SQL
back
ends
with
with
with
with
tooling
support.
It's
part
it
kind
of
came
out
of
the
Apache
Arrow
Community.
So
that's
not!
I
In
the
you
know,
a
project
like
that
is
congruent
with
things
that
are
happening
within
the
tag
right
and
that's
just
one
example,
but
there's
a
big
opportunity
to
really
Network
across
and
then
for
folks
to
understand
the
space
and
understand
or
have
ideas
around
around
how
we
can
kind
of
broaden
the
tent
and
and
welcome
projects
into
the
cncf.
That
makes
sense
that
fit
a
gap
and
the
substrate
project
would
be
an
example
of
that
and
I
can
send
a
link
later
so
that's
happening.
I
The
landscape
graph
project
has
had
a
few
folks
reach
out.
We
were
going
to
kick
off
meetings
last
week.
A
few
folks
are
working
out
with
their
day
jobs.
You
know
to
get
how
much
resourcing
they
have
for
it,
but
we
do
intend
to
start
formal
project
meetings
in
the
next
few
weeks
and
there's
also
opportunities
to
do
end
user
Outreach.
I
You
know
it's
been
some
time
since
we've
done
actual
case
studies,
but
we
have
had
a
number
of
presentations
to
the
tag
which
are
listed
here
like
from
the
past
few
weeks.
Most
recently,
Zayn
from
pixie
came
and
and
talked
through
their
incubation
proposal,
they're
looking
for
a
sponsor,
but
there's
a
there's
just
a
massive
opportunity
to
to
to
to
organize
and
carry
these
sorts
of
presentations
and
I.
Think
there's
been
both
demand
for
it
and
Supply.
I
So
that's
it
from
from
us.
If
there's
any
oh
there's
one
other
thing,
I
wanted
to
raise,
and
it's
probably
a
quick
one,
but
the
talk
that
was
going
to
be
today
we're
actually
postponing
for
a
few
weeks
to
the
21st
for
scheduling.
But
it
raises
an
issue
right
when
we
first
looked
at
the
project
coin,
it's
an
MIT
project
right,
but
it's
actually
MIT
with
a
Commons
Clause.
So
it's
not
OSI
compatible
right.
I
So
so
this
person
Ryan,
might
we're
thinking
we'd
like
to
have
him
come
talk
about
ontologies
and
knowledge,
graphs
and
and
some
of
the
applicability
to
observability
generally
not
decline
project
because
of
that
licensing
constraints.
So
I
guess
my
question
to
the
TOC
is:
is
my
understanding
of
what?
A
I
Well
so
in
this
case,
so
the
project
itself
is
actually
not
the
focus.
You
know
we've
been
talking
in
the
tag
and
generally
about
the
applicability
to
a
graphs
and
graph
Theory
and
graph
databases
to
observability
data
generally.
A
much
as
Commerce
stores
have
have
helped
everyone,
not
just
observability
folks.
Crafts
have
a
lot
to
offer
right.
So
this
is
a
domain
expert
who
happens
to
have
done.
I
A
C
I
O
N
N
I
P
And
so
you
know,
since
since
there's
some
quietness
here,
I'm
compelled
to
say
so,
dims
had
asked
last
time
about
a
cni
and
I'm
2.0
which
which,
which
is
a
thing
I'm
gonna
we're
gonna,
be
inviting
those
folks
to
present
at
an
upcoming
tag.
Network
there
was
a
recent
presentation
on
cni
2.0
at
fosdum,
but
it
has
been
in
the
works
for
in
planning
for
some
time.
L
L
L
We've
been
working
on
the
Environmental
Landscape
document
for
quite
some
time.
We
started
like
in
in
October
or
even
before
then,
and
we
are
confident
that
we
can
show
some
like
first
results
or
first
landscape
document
in
the
maintainer
talk
at
kubecon,
and
maybe
we
will
also
hand
out
the
flyer
with
the
some
like
details,
and
this
we've
been
also
discussing
about
this,
and
we
will
have
a
tag
Meetup
in
person
at
kubecon
and
the
maintainer
talk
and
that's
that's.
It.
A
B
L
So
the
survey
we
we
have
maybe
I
can
also
share
the
links
in
the
chat.
There's
like
some
like
more
details
was
mainly
about
data
centers
and
also
one
Focus
was
like
a
little
bit
more
Hardware
heavy.
We
also
thinking
about
like
doing
more
software
side
survey
or
something
where,
like
software
developers,
can
maybe
jump
in
on,
but
this
was
like
mainly
the
focus,
so
we
had
it
open
for
a
few
months
started
if
I
remember
correct
in
couponing
a
so.
A
C
B
Q
Q
The
and
the
new
quarterly
LFX
program
is
actually
beginning
soon
and
again
we
have
60
something
mentors
for
that.
I
honestly,
if
our
we
have
a
limitation
with
all
of
us
right
now,
it's
actually
broadening
the
student
base
and
so
we're
looking
at.
Are
there
ways
to
do
that,
because,
right
now,
probably
90
percent
of
the
students
applying
are
from
Indian
universities
and
well.
Q
R
Yes,
sir,
that
is
me
I'm
representing
today,
I'm
a
technical
lead
on
the
group.
First
is
kubecon
EU.
We
have
started
discussing
amongst
the
leads
and
with
the
group,
our
activities
there.
We
want
to
we're
having
a
meeting
a
meet
up
on
the
pre-day,
which
will
split
between
reviewing
our
own
work
in
progress
and
bringing
in
some
project
maintainers
to
hopefully
share.
You
know
five
to
ten
minutes
snippets
on
significant,
significant
things
that
they've
been
working
on
same
thing
with
the
booths
will
be
in
the
project
Pavilion.
R
We
also
have
a
session
and
we'll
emphasize
some
of
the
domains
that
we've
worked
on
platforms,
applications,
operators,
so
yeah,
so
I
click
that
link,
if
you,
if
any
of
you
or
any
of
your
folks
in
your
tags,
projects
want
to
participate
with
us.
You
know,
please
let
us
know:
I'm
gonna,
we're
gonna
work
on
a
blog
post
and
some
sort
of
call
for
proposals
shortly,
hopefully
the
next
week
or
two.
R
This
is
not
much
time
next,
Ouija
platforms
I'm
really
excited
because
I've
been
leading
this
work,
so
the
white
paper
is
ready
to
be
published.
We've
been
working
on
on
a
paper
there,
defining
platforms
or
Cloud
native
Computing
assigning
an
adjective
before
platforms
is
quite
controversial.
So
that's
probably
the
point
with
that.
We
want
to
Pro
I
put
links
in
here,
so
just
go
to
the
doc
and
just
click
the
go
to
the
deck
and
click
the
links
to
see.
R
So
this
and
also
user
groups,
it
would
be
great
if
there
was
some
sort
of
system,
a
council
or
something
I
know,
there's
something
in
cncf,
so
I
wanted
to
bring
that
up
here.
Whatever
the
talk
can
do
to
support
us
and
gathering
this
feedback,
you
know
timing
on
that
survey.
If
you
want
to
help
us
do
it
well,
you
can
always
use
help
as
everybody
else
in
school.
R
R
That's
one
of
the
ones
that
people
brought
up
from
day
one
like
can
we
go
a
little
deeper
into
product
mindset,
I'm
personally
technical,
technically
inclined,
so
things
like
Secrets
multi-tenancy
and
a
lot
of
things
like
that
are
also
we're
starting
to
dive
in
I'm
we're
just
starting
to
build
momentum
on
that
stuff.
So,
but
please
come
and
help
and
we're
also.
The
last
thing
is
we're
working
on
a
prototypical
platform.
R
Yeah
I
would
love
like
I'll
try
to
find
some
of
the
groups.
I've
been
wanting
to
bring
some
other
folks
in
but
reach
out
to
me.
Also,
if
you
want,
and
let's
talk,
I
brought
in
a
few
people
here,
like
the
Sops
proposal,
that's
in
sandbox
and
so
many
people
at
red
hat
that
are
working
on
like
service
binding
stuff.
So,
okay,
I
love
talking
about
platforms,
but
that's
not
fair
to
get
up.
R
We
just
we
take
down
the
notes,
we're
kind
of
coming
up
with
a
little
bit
of
a
structure
for
it,
and
then
we
post
it
up
there
for
future
reference.
So
Emily.
Actually
it's
been
on
my
to-do
list
to
talk
with
you
about
making
sure
we're
doing
this
well
or
how
we
can.
You
know
help
the
talk
out.
Okay,.
R
Cool
last
thing
on
there
is
I
just
wanted
to
mention:
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
an
application,
spec,
meaning
something
that
would
capture
all
of
the
components
in
an
application.
You
know
many
deployments,
many
Secrets
config
Maps
extra
resources,
things
like
that,
so
check
it
out.
If
you
want
yeah,
that's
it
I,
guess
questions.
If
anyone
has.