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CNCF TOC Meeting 2021-02-02
A
A
A
A
Welcome
you
have
made
it
to
the
february
2nd
toc
meeting,
because
you
are
here.
You
have
clearly
made
it
in
good
fun,
we'll
be
talking
about
our
new
toc
members
coming
on
in,
but
doc.
Members
present
today
got
an
update
from
the
various
cigs
in
here
and
probably
some
time
for
questions,
so
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
get
things
kicked
off
in
here.
A
Elections
closed
yesterday
and
very
very
excited
to
be
able
to
see
these
new
folks
in
here
and
you
will
get
a
chance
to
be
able
to
introduce
yourself
promises,
a
big
thank
you
to
our
outgoing
toc
members,
brendan
matt
and
chang
lee
and
I'll
pass
it
over
to
dave.
As
you
are
our
first
official
person
on
the
list
here.
C
All
right,
I'm
actually
dropping
my
kid
off
at
hockey
right
now,
so
I
hope
I
I'm
on
my
phone.
I
hope
I
can
beat
myself
correctly,
but
I'm
dave
I'm
from
the
poc
for
the
past
few
months.
I'm
an
engineer
on
spotify's
platform
team
and
I've
been
in
various
cncf
and
cncf
and
usury
things
for
the
past
few
years.
D
B
E
Go
ahead,
hello,
everyone,
cornelia
davis-
I
am
currently
the
cto
at
weaveworks.
I
have
been
here
for
about
a
year
prior
to
that
I
was
at
pivotal
for
seven
or
eight
years,
however
long
that
was
where
I
worked
both
on
cloud
foundry
as
well
as
later
in
the
last
two
or
three
years
that
I
was
there
worked
on
kubernetes,
specifically
kubernetes
platform
had
the
great
benefit
of
working
as
well.
E
Once
I
was
working
together
with
vmware
and
once
vmware
acquired
heftio
had
a
chance
to
work
with
many
of
the
engineers
over
there,
as
well
as
people
like
craig
and
joe.
So
that
is
kind
of
my
background.
So
I've
been
doing
app.
You
know
app
platforms
for
a
long
time
and
have
been
involved
in
kubernetes
now
for
four
or
five
years
more
recently,
this
year
in
particular,
have
started
getting
more
involved
with
the
app
delivery
seg
and
in
particular
one
of
the
founding
members
of
the
get
ups
working
group.
E
A
F
Yeah,
hello,
everyone,
so
here's
a
quick
update
from
sick,
f
delivery
microphone
here.
Current
project
reviews,
flux
now
also
with
flagger
attacker,
is
currently
working
on
merging
with
the
flux
project
or
is
in
process.
They
requested
to
move
incubation.
The
due
diligence
is
ongoing.
First
interviews.
First
interview
has
taken
place.
F
The
more
to
come
to
this
should
be
ready
for
the
tfc
to
have
a
look,
rather
sooner
than
later,
the
working
group,
so
the
operator
working
group
which
or
the
operator
work
in
thick
app
delivery,
which
has
been
around
for
quite
a
while
had
some
more
momentum
and
there
have
been
some
changes
and
also
some
really
good
work
here,
which
you
put
on
a
separate
slide,
because
it
deserves
a
separate
site.
This
time
it
ups
working
group
already
mentioned
burkinaliam
the
working
group
and
the
project
has
been
formed
there.
F
So
it's
kind
of
like
this
double
existence
of
being
a
working
group
and
a
sandbox
a
project,
the
sandbox
project
for
the
content
created
here,
which
has
been
improved,
obviously
very
recently
by
the
tlc
on
some
other
activities
that
potato
had
projects
with
a
demo
project
for
deploying
cloud
native
applications,
which
was
initially
created
for
a
cube
concession
had
really
been
growing
and
there
was
like
lots
more
contributions
from
the
community.
The
tradition
of
sap
cube
vela,
so
what
it
more
or
less
does
right
now
takes
is
simple.
F
One
micro
service
kubernetes
object
that
deploys
it
with
well
more
or
less
the
broader
cloud
native
app
delivery
ecosystem.
So
you
can
see
a
lot
of
projects,
obviously
from
simple,
manifests
to
using
helm,
charts
to
using
argo
to
using
flux
and
so
forth,
and
there
has
been
a
new
projects
that
were
added
just
pretty
recently,
which
is
hubella,
customize,
nap
and
gimlet,
gimlet
and
and
one
chart
in
there.
So
we
see
continuous
contributions
from
the
community
in
the
next
step.
On
that
work,
we're
doing.
F
There
is
a
bit
more
detail
on
the
app
delivery,
so
in
the
operator
working
group
within
delivery,
we
have
sweden,
new
chairs,
jennifer,
omer
and
thomas
have
taken
the
lead
here.
They
have
been
working
on
this
for
quite
a
while,
and
now
we
also
have
a
timeline
for
the
operator
world,
a
white
paper.
The
team
closely
worked
also
with
the
security
working
group,
who
recently
did
their
security
white
paper
and
took
a
lot
of
input
from
their
site.
F
They
have
a
dedicated
slack
channel
in
case
you
want
to
get
involved
with
them
and
there
is
no
buy
with
this
sync
meetings.
So
the
plan
is
to
have
something
for
review
by
middle
of
march
and
then
the
final
version
ready
by
end
of
april,
so
that
it
will
be
more
or
less
done
done
for
yupcon
europe.
So
that's
the
update
from
figure
delivery.
H
F
It's
it.
It
has
been
less
unusual
honestly
that
the
project
that
we
recently
looked
into,
that
we
have
more
or
less
these
smaller
sets
of
projects
that
have
individual
parts,
that
kind
of
make
it
together.
So
it's,
and
also
from
especially
from
the
flux
side
now
with
flux
v2.
It
makes
more
sense
to
have
to
have
them
as
a
combined
set
of
projects.
F
F
A
G
Howdy
everybody
a
few
things.
First,
the
new
contributor
site
is
almost
ready
for,
particularly
for
our
new
plc
members.
What
we're
doing
is
existing
contribute.cncf.io
is
going
to
become
a
more
sophisticated
site
where
there's
one
route
where,
if
you're
looking
to
contribute,
it
goes
to
the
existing
information
about
how
to
contribute
to
each
project,
although
that
will
actually
be
htmlfied
instead
of
just
dropping
you
into
get,
and
then
the
other
way
will
actually
go
to
a
whole
site
of
information
about
for
project
maintainers.
G
G
There's
a
link
to
early
draft
of
that
when
we
finish
the
draft
expect
to
see
that
again
for
full
toc
approval,
because
anything
that
modifies
the
requirements
you
all
have
to
approve
the
for
contributor
growth,
a
bunch
of
documentation
in
progress,
recruiting
handbook.
We've
got
a
lot
a
lot
of
questions
about.
How
do
we
recruit
contributors
and
a
a
generic
contributor
ladder
document
in
progress,
because
it's
something
we've
had
a
lot
of
other
requests
for
final
thing
is
so
c
contributor
strategy
has
had
two
liaisons
to
the
coc.
G
G
Our
two
sort
of
toc
liaisons
are
the
ones
who
do
final
approval.
On
those
now
one
of
those
approvers
is
saad,
who
is
still
with
us
and
still
helping
us
out
a
lot,
but
the
other
one
was
matt,
who
is
now
retiring
or
at
least
cycling
out
of
the
toc.
So
we
we're
looking
for
a
second
toc
member
who's
interested
in
the
work
of
contributor
strategy
and
willing
to
help
with
review
and
approval
of
stuff.
A
A
A
I
I
Busy
with
initiatives
inside
of
the
service
mesh
working
group,
the
last
three
or
more
four
meetings
have
been
really
dedicated
to
initiatives
that
are
going
on
within
that
group,
of
which
there
are
a
few
last
couple
of
times.
We
met
much
of
the
discussion
and
focus
has
been
on
get
nighthawk
as
a
project.
I
I
I
I
So
the
goal
is
to
identify
these
patterns
that
are
agnostic
of
the
particular
service
mesh,
and
this
coming
thursday
there'll
be
a
review
of
those
patterns
on
high
level,
but
with
a
demo
which
will
include
the
open,
open
application
model,
oam
and
mesherie,
and
which
is
a
service,
mesh
management
plane
and
so
an
integration
of
the
two
to
to
allow
people
to
take
a
given
pattern
as
an
example
and
put
it
put
it
to
action,
put
it
into
action.
So
so
that's
the
upcoming
agenda.
I
A
E
Yeah,
so
so
I
love
this
site.
You
know,
you
said
it
kind
of
as
a
side
comment
about
engaging
with
the
university
on
some
research
and
having
that
happen,
underneath
the
the
sig
umbrella.
That
sounds
super
exciting
to
me.
There's
so
many
elements
of
that
engaging
you
know
younger
folks,
bringing
them
in
you
know,
students,
things
like
that
tapping
into
the
vast
knowledge.
That's
in
universities.
E
I
wonder
if
whether
there's
anything
I
mean
there's
a
whole
story
there,
and
I
we
can't
take
a
ton
of
time
here
today,
but
I'd
be
super
interested
in
hearing
about
that
experience.
Any
best
practices,
any
tips,
any
guidance.
How
do
we
make
something
like
that
happen,
and
maybe
we
can
take
that
as
a
you
know
as
a
one-off
sometime,
but
if
you
have
any
comments
to
start.
I
I
I
know
there's
a
bit
of
related
to
this
there's
a
bit
of
like
they're
they're,
the
cncf
ambassadors
program,
I
think
cornelia
of
which,
maybe
you
wear
multiple
hats
in
this
regard.
But
there's
been
discussion
about
a
campus
ambassador
program,
and
so
that
might
be
a
bridge
to
explore
there
interesting
yeah.
A
F
Yeah,
so
we
what
we
also
do.
We
try
to
include
especially
open
source
related
technologies
now
in
the
bigger
european
research
project,
as
well
with
the
mtf
technologies
and
actively
bring
them
in
which
usually
works
pretty
fine,
because
an
european
union
is
interested
in
working,
more
open
source
and
also
having
more
of
this
engagement
in
there.
F
Any
practically
funding
is
actually
pretty
good
of
those
projects,
so
this
is
definitely
helpful,
bringing
in
different
projects
and
defining
contributions
and
what
we
also
did
like
these
that
were
only
to
engage
with
universities.
What
we
found
and
we're
doing
this
now
with
three
austrian
universities.
It's
just
offering
a
basic
course
on
cloud
native
technologies,
especially
in
the
master
program.
There
is
not
a
lot
out
there
and
the
universities
are
super
happy
doing
this,
so
we
well.
F
Our
experience
was
when
we
were
offering
teaching
people
like
how
to
use
cloud
native
technology.
So,
whereas
kubernetes
it's
about
continuous
delivery
topics,
service
meshes
they're,
super
open
and
allowing
to
even
they
have
these
lectures
on
this,
and
this
can
usually
lead
them
to,
for
example,
us
supporting
a
master
series
and
in
one
case
now
we're
going
even
to
phds,
having
like
a
more
agreed
curriculum
that
we
could
reuse
like
all
of
us,
because
we
most
likely
would
teach
very
similar
things
and
then
would
offer
our
time
could
be
helpful.
F
A
F
Yeah
and
on
the
curriculum
one
of
our
ideas,
yeah
that
how
to
maintain
the
curriculum,
I
think
our
plan
was
initially.
We
started
with
some
things
internally,
but
our
plan
was
to
have
this
more
or
less
even
open
sourced
going
forward,
and
if
others
are
doing,
the
same
thing
I
think
would
be
a
nice
way
to
collaborate
and
keep
in
mind
like
some
of
those
students
depending
what
you're
targeting
at
you
have
to
start,
maybe
from
okay.
This
is
a
container.
This
is
how
orchestration
works.
This
is
how
you
build
and
deploy
applications.
F
It's
not
like
the
super
high-end
stuff.
Necessarily
it's
really
getting
them
used
to
the
technology
that
they
can
then
dive
deeper
into
topics
that
they're
interested
in
and
maybe
also
then
reaching
out
to
two
different
projects,
whether
they
have
specific
research,
just
as
he
pointed
out
and
then
having
local
supporters
there,
but.
K
Yeah
yeah
go
ahead,
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
chat.
So
if
there
are
any
questions
regarding
mentorship
programs
and
how
can
be
how
they
can
be
useful,
we
can
we
can
move
this
discussion
out
of
the
current
meeting.
So
we
can.
We
can
chat
on
slack
or
in
some
different
way.
Anyway,
as
chris
mentioned,
please
check
out
our
mentoring,
reponder,
the
cncf
github.
So
all
the
necessary
information
is
listed.
There.
A
H
Yeah
there
is
a
little
bit
of
updates,
but
I
didn't
get
around
to
updating
the
slides
sorry.
So
the
main
update
is
that
there
is
a
lot
more
engagement
between
prometheus
and
open
telemetry
or
a
lot
more.
It's
increasing
ever
increasing,
there's
also
now
a
prometheus
working
group
within
open
telemetry
to
work
together
on
on
all
the
things,
and
I'm
I'm
having
a
case
of
too
many
taps,
because
there
was
one
more
thing.
The
last
meeting.
L
This
richie
I'm
willing
to
add
two
more
things
for
sick
observability.
We
have
the
observability
one-on-one
training
type
stuff,
so,
like
blog
posts
and
material
is
currently
being
worked
on.
We
have
a
proposal
for
that
and
part
of
the
observability
agenda.
If
people
are
interested
in
taking
a
look
through
a
google
spreadsheet
and
also
the
also
talking
about
open
telemetry,
there
is
paperwork
now
for
incubation
proposals,
so
we'll
be
reviewing
that
as
part
of
sick
observability.
For
those
interested.
J
J
J
So
we'll
see
the
presentation
and
and
sounds
like
an
exciting
project,
and
we
also
have
been
engaging
more
of
the
webassembly
runtime
projects.
So
there's
wasmer
wasn't
time
and
w
a
vm
so
wassmer
they
are
interested
in
presenting
and
I've
yet
to
actually
hear
back
from
them
if
they
confirm
or
they're
they're
going
to
confirm
for
february
18th.
J
J
Swam
is
another
one
and
they
mentioned
that
they
need
to
get
some
things
together
and
then
they'll
be
presenting.
Maybe
later
in
the
year
now,
in
the
operating
system
space
we
had
a
presentation
from
vortail,
and
this
is
basically
one
of
those
operating
systems,
so
lightweight
operating
systems
that
allow
you
to
run
containers
so
kind
of
like
core
os
or
talos.
Some
other
projects
that
presented
previously
in
our
meetings
and
then
res
cto.
J
Learning
envelopes
type
of
projects
and
k3s
is
another
project
that
we
still
are
talking
for
them
to
present
they're
part
of
the
cncf
already.
So
we
just
want
to
get
more
engagement
and
as
far
as
the
runt
the
sick
activities,
so
there's
a
kubecon
eu,
so
we're
planning
to
submit
a
maintainer
session
so
to
get
more
involvement
from
the
community
yeah
and
that's
that's
all.
I
have
for
the
updates
happy
to
take
any
questions
see
if
you
have
any.
A
J
Wow,
how
did
they?
I
know?
That's
a
different
one.
I
really
hope
that
some
of
these
folks
combine
projects
that's
way
too
early
yeah.
So
yeah,
that's
what
alina
mentioned.
So
there,
the
it's
kind
of
early.
So
hopefully
they
work
together
because
yeah
they're
doing
different
or
they're
doing
some
of
the
same,
and
you
know
separately
and
there's
a
work
or
or
a
non-profit,
called
by
code
alliance
and
they're
trying
to
bring
in
all
the
projects
together.
J
J
So
so
there's
more
of
a
clear
winner
and
yeah,
and
this
will
be
helpful
for
people
adopting
it
and
and
basically
using
more
for
cloud
native
environments
and
then
yeah
web
assembly
is
that
I
mean
we
had
a
medium
toc
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago
and
it's
very
similar
to
what
the
jvm
is.
So
you
create
this
byte
code
and
it
can
be
run
in
any
platform
or
it
can
be
run
in
on
the
web.
J
Okay,
oh
container
plumbing,
oh
yeah,
so
there's
a
conference
and
that's
would
love
to
have
a
speaker
on
well,
sometimes,
okay,
yeah.
So
for
those
who
wants
to
somebody
from
the
audience
can
submit
something
or
we
can
reach
out
to
some
of
the
members
of
the
sick
to
submit
a
proposal
there.
I
think
there's
also
an
event
happening
kubecon
for
web
assembly.
M
A
N
Cool
cool
thanks
thanks
thanks
yeah,
I
mean
like
I
was
worried
because
I
woke
up
late
and
joined
late,
so
sick
security.
I
think
we've
been
pretty
busy
the
last
few
months
and
I
think
people
have
seen
white
paper
come
out.
There's
a
lot
of
interest
for
the
white
paper
and
translation
efforts
have
been
started
for
the
white
paper.
As
you
can
see,
there's
one
chinese
translation,
pr
spending
I'll
get
merged,
there's.
Also
portuguese
translation.
Somebody
picked
up
that
they
wanted
to
translate
that
to
portuguese.
So
that
is
one
effort.
N
N
There'll
be
cross-pollination
between
that
meeting
and
this
this
and
we'll
probably
transfer
content
over
from
this
to
that
from
the
u.s
time
zone
meeting
to
the
apac
time
meeting
we
also
kick
started
a
serverless
security
white
paper.
That's
starting
and
that's
in
the
works.
It's
at
the
early
stages,
if
anybody's
interested
in
contributing
to
that,
please
reach
out
to
members
in
the
six
security
I
think
they'll
get
you
connected.
A
A
M
All
right
so
the
longhorn
project
we
do
need
to
sync
up
with
sand
and
review
the
incubation
process
and
go
through
the
dd.
We
also
had
a
new
project
jaguar
fs,
who
the
that
project
was
one
of
the
first
projects
we
we
put
through
us
as
sandbox
from
the
sig
and
now
they're
looking
to
move
to
incubation.
M
M
On
a
project,
presentation
and
a
another
disaster
recovery
document
disaster
recovery
document
is
is
is
particularly
exciting.
We've
we've
had
a
new
member
in
the
sig,
rafael
esposioli,
who
has
contributed
the
bulk
of
the
content
and
we're
looking
for
comments
on
the
disaster
recovery
document,
we're
kind
of
trying
to
figure
out.
M
A
Okay
of
note,
the
next
sandbox
annual
sorry,
the
sandbox
review
process
is
going
to
be
on
march
23rd,
and
I
have
put
this
over
in
the
public
meeting
working
dex
that
everyone
knows
when
that's
coming,
we'll
probably
have
more
conversations
about
that,
but
that's
kind
of
upcoming
pieces
in
here
and
yeah
welcome
to
our
new
toc
members.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it
for
today.
Any
other
questions
comments
things
that
people
wanted
to
cover.