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B
C
A
D
I
drive,
hey,
I
can
yeah
sure.
Let
me
just
bring
up
the
okay.
D
E
D
D
Right
so
we
have
quite
a
few
things
on
the
agenda
today,
but
if
there
are
other
things
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
feel
free
to
add
them
at
the
agenda,
you
know
before
we
start
briefly.
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I
see
some
new
faces
to
the
meeting.
D
F
Sure
no
problem
I
did
sort
of
semi-prepare,
so
I'm
a
developer,
a
team
lead
at
a
company
called
Bloomberg.
We've
been
we've
heard
about
City
events
about
I
think
a
year
or
two
ago
we
went
to
a
virtual
CD
con.
It
was
the
first
time
we
heard
about
it
and
I
guess.
My
team
is
an
infrastructure
team
and
I
guess.
F
Our
wider
area
is
in
responsible
for
deployment
as
a
whole,
and
my
specific
focus
is
on
testing
and
validation,
and
we've
been
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
standardize
the
output.
That's
coming
from
different
groups
that
are
doing
testing
on
their
own
there's
lots
of
different
teams
with
lots
of
different
testing
needs,
and
we
thought
that
City
events
is
a
good
way
to
standardize
the
communication
between
this,
the
different
groups
that
are
doing
testing
in
our
company,
and
we
also
have
a
lot
of
different
deployment
sort
of.
F
Rollout
things,
and
so
we
thought
City
events
is
a
good
way
to
communicate
between
them.
So
my
specific
areas
really
interested
in
integration
testing.
So
when
it
goes
out
Beyond
CI
testing,
how
can
we
deliver
strong
signals
that
help
us
to
safe
deployments
and
to
to
intelligent
and
give
you
know
good
feedback
to
whether
things
should
go
forward?
F
Go
back
that
sort
of
thing,
and
so
yeah
I
think
you
know
my
interest
is
you
know,
first,
getting
up
to
speed
and
knowing
what's
coming
up
in
terms
of
you
know,
changes
in
the
spec
and
then
we
definitely
are
interested
in
contributing
back.
F
We
have
code
in
Python,
go
and
Java,
like
all
the
mentioned
things,
so
we're
definitely
interested
to
see
what
we
can
send
back
and
we
have
some
message:
types
that
seem
like
they
don't
quite
fit
in
to
the
events
land
right
now,
but
we'd
love
to
see
if
it
will
always
be
something
special
or
if
it
maybe
it
is
a
common
General
thing
that
we
can
incorporate
and
work
together
on
so
yeah.
F
We
definitely
want
to
start
by
just
listening
in
and
making
sure
we're
doing,
sensible
things
in
terms
of
planning,
but
very
soon
you
know
we'd
love
to
contribute
as
well.
So
is
that
enough
anything
else,
kind
of
questions
no.
D
That's
great
yeah
Dania
thanks
for
introduction
and
thanks
for
joining
today,.
D
Okay,
so
let's
start
with
the
agenda,
then
I
think
first
topic
we
have
for
today
is
the
TOC
project
representative.
D
So
I
put
a
link
to
the
process
there,
but
basically
the
CDF
technical
oversight
committee.
Four
of
the
nine
seats,
are
project
seats,
so
they're
available
for
contributor
maintainers
to
projects
nomination
are
open
today
and
the
nominations
started
in
May
22nd
and
will
close
on
June
the
5th.
E
D
A
A
But
as
Andrea
mentioned,
there
are
currently
nine
project
in
CDF
and
there
are
only
four
seats.
So
even
though
we
we
nominate
one
from
our
project
doesn't
mean
that
it
will,
by
default,
be
be
allowed
to
to
get
a
seat
there,
but
there
will
be
an
addiction
and
most
of
you,
I
guess,
could
have
gotten
the
information
about
the
elections,
because
there
is
those
of
you
who
are
contributors
to
CDF
will
be
able
to
also
elect
all
reports
on
on
these
elections
after
June
15th,
and
when
the
elections
come
out.
A
So
yeah
I
don't
mind
staying
in
the
TLC,
and
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind
having
me
there,
then
I
will
I
will
I
can
nominate
myself.
But
if
you
have
any
other
thoughts,
please
please
raise
them.
D
I
would
just
say,
though,
thanks
a
lot
Emil,
for
you
know,
make
yourself
available
for
this.
D
I
think
if
there
are
no
comments,
you
should
go
ahead
and
submit
denominations
today.
D
Great
thanks
next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
City
events,
visualization
discussion,
so
I
see
Adam
Andrew
jalander
from
Ericsson.
C
G
Okay,
so
I'm
Andrew,
Fenner
I
was
working
closely
with
Adam
and
jelander
on
this
they're.
The
more
expert
on
this
within
within
our
group,
but
then
I
just
put
together
this.
G
Okay,
so
this
is
very
much
the
the
the
only
purpose
of
this
presentation
isn't
isn't
to
give
direction,
or
even
it
isn't
even
the
direct
isn't
even
for
us
to
give
what
we
think
is
a
suggested
Direction.
It's
very
very
much
just
to
try
and
create
a
discussion
on
to
try
and
see
what
way
we
would
think
about
advancing
within
CD
events.
Visualization
we've
been
trying
to
think
about
it
a
little
bit
about
like.
Why
would
you
even
want
to
visualize
CD
events?
G
What
and
because
that
will
most
definitely
Drive
what
type
of
visualization
you
would
want?
I'm
sure
there
are
more
more
reasons
to
do.
G
We're
tracking
your
your
sort
of
being
aware
of
that.
There
is
an
end-to-end
flow
of
the
events
and
you're
trying
to
make
sure
that
that's
some
sort
of
a
full
pipeline
of
events
is
is
working
but
I
think
that
there's
other
uses
for
visualization,
which
can
be
for
demonstration
purposes
that
can
be
for
demonstration
of
CV
events
themselves.
G
It
can
be
also
for
the
people
who
are
using
CD
events
in
production
environments
to
demonstrate
the
the
use
of
CD
events
in
those
production
environments
to
either
to
to
Senior
Management
or
even
to
other
stakeholders
within
a
a
CD
organization.
Cicd
organization
that
can
be
used
for
promotion
I.
Think
that's
very
much
like
from
the
point
of
view
of
CD
events
that
see
the
events
needs
to
be
able
to
promote
itself
and
while
the
the
primary
purpose
of
CD
events
isn't
about
visualization.
G
Sometimes
it's
just
easier
to
have
a
a
visualization
to
to
make
demonstrations
and
to
make
presentations
easier
and
also
just
from
the
point
of
view
of
understanding
the
usage
of
see
the
events
and
even
from
the
point
of
view
of
understanding
the
pipelines
that
the
CD
events
would
be
used
in.
Like
I
said
this
most.
Definitely
we
don't
think
this
is
an
exhaustive
list
and
and
but
it's
only
just
to
try
and
highlight
that
there's
multiple
different
uses
for
visualization
and
and
that
to
to
try
and
as
I
said.
G
The
whole
purpose
of
this
is
to
try
and
stimulate
the
conversation
of
what.
What
if
any
visualization
is
needed.
Is
there
any
visualization
needed
I
I?
And
what
would
we
started
to
think
about
prioritizing
I
am
then
again.
This
is
not
meant
to
be
comprehensive,
but
what
we
sort
of
thought
that
there
was
two
two
two
major
categories
of
how
we
could
tighten
what
types
of
visualization
we
could
have.
We
could
make
a
CD
event
specific,
CD
event,
aware
visualization,
so
this
would
be
where
we
would
think
about
creating
a
a
tool.
G
That
would
be
very,
very
specific
to
see
the
events
it
would,
as
I
would
say,
the
see
the
event
where
it
would
know
what
a
CD
event
was.
It
would
know
the
the
the
different
types
of
events.
It
would
know
that
there
could
be
that
that
CD
events
Were
Meant
to
come
as
part
of
a
flow
of
events,
so
it
could
know
about
where
our
event
was
good.
G
Whether
an
event
was
bad,
it
could
like
as
I
say
it's
just
a
CD
event,
where
and
and
that
you
would
make
a
specific
tool
that
would
be
a
CD
event,
visualizer
and
or
then
I
I
see
another
way
of
visualizing
the
to
see
the
events
would
be
where
you
would
take
a
make,
take
generic
tooling
and
that
that
isn't
see
the
event
specific
and
that
you
would
use
that
for
visualization
visualizing
the
the
to
see
the
events.
G
So
these
aren't
somewhat
CD
eventware,
but
you
can
make
that
they
can
display
CD
events
in
in
in
in
in
in
certain
ways
and
then
what
we
have
done
is
we
have
put
together
two
very
brief
proofs
of
well
I,
won't
even
call
them
proof
for
Concepts
what
we
we've
put
together.
G
Two
different
sets
of
visualizations
one
to
try
and
show
the
CD
event
aware,
tooling,
and
and
what
you
would
start
to
guess
from
some
see
the
eventware
tooling,
and
also
we
have
a
second,
a
second
small
demo,
where
we
would
show
what
you
would
start
to
get
from
some
generic
tooling
that
we
were
trying
to
display
see
the
events
in.
So
we
will,
just
briefly
showed
see
the
eventware
tooling
first
just
to
comments
on
this.
First
of
all,
we
we
assumed
that
there
was
some
sort
of
a
solution
to
the
event.
G
I
think
it
was
called
event
connection
event
linking
that
that
that
that
events
could
be
linked
together
could
be
connected
together
in
some
way.
We
really
don't
mind
what
way
they
would
what
what
what
the
end
solution
for
that
would
be.
We
just
assumed
that
there
would
be
some
way
that
it
could
be
done
and
again
also
when
you're
looking
at
this
tool.
This
is
this
is
very,
very
much
just
a.
We
we've
only
created
this
demo
just
to
try
and
stimulate
a
conversation
in
our
own
minds.
This
is
not.
G
B
B
Right
perfect,
thank
you.
So
this
is
just
the
first
of
all
the
kind
of
reference
status
that
we
went
with.
So
it's
just
a
bunch
of
events,
I
kind
of
grabbed
from
the
Java
SDK
and
added
these
links
to
it.
B
The
links
are
more
closely
what
Eiffel,
visual
I'd
say
what
iPhone
events
use,
because
we
had
them
quite
settled
on
how
linkage
would
work
with
city
of
NCS,
but
this
is
just
kind
of
a
prototype
anyway,
so
yep
and
we
just
kind
of
had
I
added
a
bunch
of
events
of
different
kind
of
sequences
as
we're
calling
them
now
we
were
calling
them
flows
for
the
last
while
but
sequences,
so
they
can
run.
B
Some
sequences
ran
a
couple
times
and
some
were
just
ran
once
or
twice
so
yep
with
this
status.
Then
you
select
that
from
the
dummy
file
it
generates
this,
so
this
is
kind
of
each
one.
Of
these
kind
of
horizontal
sequences
is
a
sequence,
so
it's
very
small
at
the
moment,
but
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
left
corner.
B
It
says
containing
tree
events,
because
the
sequence
ran
three
times
so
there's
three
events
for
each
of
these
and
when
you
click
into
an
event,
it
shows
you
all
of
the
pipeline
run
started
events,
for
example
that
have
been
ran
with
each
flow.
So
it's
supposed
to
say
sequence
at
this
point,
but
so
you
can
see
this
one's
from
sequence,
four,
and
this
one's
from
sequence,
two
for
example.
B
So
you
can
see
that
and
trying
to
implement
a
feature
at
the
moment
where,
if
you
click
on
say
clicked
on
here,
this
would
be
different
wording,
but
it
would
show
you
all
of
the
events
that
share
a
common
thing
with
the
pipeline
run
started.
So
you
could
set
that
so
you
could
have
the
chairs
a
type
or
a
chair
as
a
name
or
something
like
that
shares
a
sequence.
C
G
G
That
might
that
you
might
want
to
aggregate
the
the
the
the
execution
of
similar
sequences
of
events
into
in
in
together
to
be
displayed
separately
because
they
they're
they're,
actually
different
use
cases
depending
on
on
the
actual
sequence
of
events.
G
D
I
G
The
second
demo
is
very
much
using
generic
tooling,
so
we're
using
Prometheus
I
also,
we
also
use
Loki
and
and
node
the
node
API
plugin
for
in
grafana
and
grafana,
and
what
we
have
done
is
we've
taken
very
much,
this
same
sequence
of
events
that
was
that
that
Adam
used
in
his
specif
in
his
his
demo
and
I,
we
wrote
a
a
very,
very,
very,
very
lightweight,
very
small,
totally
troll
way.
Prometheus
server,
which
basically
counts,
as
the
events
come
in
basically
makes
a
a
Prometheus
counter
of
of
the
different
events.
G
Also,
we
made
a
second
server
that
takes
the
events
and
logs
them
so
that
they
can
be
displayed
in
the
the
logging
tool.
And
again
we
made
the
same
assumption
as
we
made
for
the
the
other
tool
where
we
assumed
that
there
was
a
solution
to
the
event
linking
property
event.
Linking
where
that
there
was,
it
was
possible
to
create
a
connection
between
the
the
events
and
and
then
what
we've
done
is
we've
set
up
a
a
a
a
grafana
dashboard
to
be
able
to
display
these
events.
So
now
let's
try
and
show
this.
G
So
this
is
what
it's
a
I
I
and
I
will.
Most
I
will
first
of
all
properly,
so
this
by
saying,
I
am
absolutely
100,
not
a
grafana
or
or
Prometheus
expert.
So
this
is
this
is
put
together
with
with
basically
zero
knowledge
of
grafana.
G
So
the
idea
here
is
what
I
have
what
we
do
is
we
expose
as
a
counter
each
of
the
different?
So
we
we
basically
read
the
sequence,
read
the
events
as
a
common
name
and
then
basically
make
a
a
Prometheus
counter
with
with
the
labels.
Now
this
is
where
you
would
actually
have
to
make
a
specific
Prometheus
server.
G
That
was,
the
Prometheus
server
would
have
to
be
see
the
event
aware,
because
it
would
have
to
know
what
in
the
counters
it
was
where
the
labels
it
wanted
to
use
and
and
what
it
wanted
to
count,
but
so,
for
example,
for
the
source
change,
the
source
merged
event.
We
were
counting
the
source
and
then
each
repo
is
counted
as
a
as
as
a
different
source.
So
these
are
my
dummy
dummy
repos.
So
we
can
count.
G
You
can
see
the
number
of
events
that
came
change
merged
in
it
from
the
Domi
repo
and
equally,
you
can
do
that
for
all
of
the
different
event
types.
So
again,
you
can
make
us
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
a
specific
counter
for
test
finished,
and
here
here
you
can.
You
can
actually
put
the
label
on
check
whether
they've
passed
or
whether
they
failed
you
can.
You
can
have
that
they're
that
they're
labeled
and
being
counted
at
that
level.
G
G
What
we
can
do
is
we
can
take
the
exact
same
data
set
and
basically
make
the
we
we
just
log
the
events
so
literally
I
just
wrote
a
tiny
little
python
server
takes
the
events
and
logs
them.
So
it's
logging,
the
raw
events
and
then
what
you
can
do
is
you
can
have
the
the
the
the
searches
that
give
that
are
given
by
Loki.
So
I
can
go
in
here.
I
can
edit
this
I
can
say.
Actually
I
want
to
do.
E
C
So
operations
options
over
here.
No
all
right.
A
G
Then
you'll
you'll
get
you'll
just
get
that
you're.
Looking
at
just
all
the
change
merged
events,
one
country.
E
G
And
then
like
in
on
my
in
my
dashboard,
all
I
see
is
the
the
change
merged
events,
so
this
would
be
more
through
the
the
troubleshooting
and
then
finally,
what
we
also
can
do
is
we.
You
know
here
here:
I'm
gonna,
go
on
to
Dangerous,
Ground
I
can
get.
The
latest
I
can
find
a
particular
event.
G
Then
what
we've
done
is
we
we
again
we
made
up
a
dummy,
a
node,
API
server.
What
node
API
does
is
a
base.
It
allows
you
to
display
a
basic
graph
of
node
endpoints
in
in
grafana
and
fingers
crossed
this
works,
because
this,
what
what
I've
done?
Is
it
just
basically
searches
through
the
data
that
it's
received
and
then
it
it
it?
It
did.
This
Server
isn't
and
it
failed.
This
Server
is
much
more.
It
has
to
be
it.
G
It
has
to
be
a
CD
event
where
and
then
it
can
display
a
single
sequence
of
events
if
they,
if
they,
if
they
have
been
try
again
if
they're
connected
together,
it's
trying
to
search
to
see
if
it
can
find
this
bush
that
might
not
have
worked,
which
idea
would
be
that
you
then
get
a
sequence
of
events.
It's
much
more
basic
sequence
of
events
that
are
shown
in
the
tool
that
Adam
had
made,
because
it's
not
actually
a
a
sequence.
G
G
D
That's
really
great
thanks,
Andrew
and
Adam
and
I
think
the
discussion,
the
questions
that
you
have
like.
What
are
we
trying
to
visualize?
What
are
the
use
cases?
What
kind
of
tools
do
we
want
dedicated
or
generic?
Those
are
really
great
questions.
D
Yeah
thanks
a
lot
then
for
the
nice
demos
as
well.
Yeah
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
to
follow
up
on
these
and
continue.
Maybe
we
could
track
these
questions
in
on
GitHub
as
well
yeah.
We
could
then
have
more
discussions
as
well.
I
I
know,
even,
for
instance,
from
Fidelity
is
also
interested
in
this
area.
D
So
maybe
there
is
space
for
collaboration
there,
but
yeah.
So
thanks
again,
I
think
Ben.
You
had
some
some
questions.
You
wanted.
H
Yes,
I
had
some
I
had
some
questions,
but
I'm
wondering
like
if
I
should
like
save
those
for
like
a
GitHub
issue
or,
like
maybe
a
separate
meeting,
that's
more
like
focused
for
that,
mostly
because,
like
I
know
this
isn't
to
like
solve
this
particular
issue.
Currently
I
know
this
was
just
kind
of
like
the
people
talking
about
it,
but
yeah
like
as
Andrea,
said
great
demo.
This
is
also
something
we're
interested
in
Apple.
H
One
thing
that
I'm
a
little
unsure
of
is:
would
this
this
wouldn't
be
a
service
right?
This
would
just
be
like
a
front-end
Library.
What
was
is
that
correct,
or
was
it?
Would
this
be
an
actual
separate
service.
G
I
I
think,
if
you
wait,
if
you
went
for
like
a
full
specific
specific
visualization,
you'd
have
to
make
a
service
to
support
it,
but
even
for
the
generic
serve
generic
visualization.
I
I
I
my
my
thinking
was
that
you
would
may
you
you
would
have
like
three
separate
three
separate
services
that
could
be
deployed
would
all
they
would
be
provided
all
they
would
be.
Providing
was
the
end
points
that
are
used
by
Prometheus
San
grafana.
H
H
But
you
know
that's
not
to
say
you
know
that
I'm
correct
here,
but
that's
just
like
my
thinking
like
if
the
data
is
always
going
to
be
the
same
across
like
you
know
all
these
other
companies
right
it
should.
You
should
be
able
just
to
have
a
front-end
library
that
somehow
connects
all
these
with,
maybe
just
an
API
that
Returns
the
expected
thing,
but,
like
I
said
that
could
be
more
of
a
discussion.
H
You
know
maybe,
on
the
GitHub
issue,
I
saw
that
there
were
some
GitHub
issues
that
was
added
in
the
in
in
the
chat
there.
So
I
can
definitely
add
my
questions
in
there
and
then
we
can
have
a
discussion
and
I'm
really
curious
to
see
how
this
kind
of
evolves
and
and
really
excited
to
see
that
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
H
H
D
All
right,
thanks
again
yeah
with
quite
a
few
things
along
the
agenda.
So,
let's
move
to
the
next
topic.
Next,
we
have
an
update
on
conducting
events.
I
guess
this
is
from
you
Ben.
H
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
I'll,
just
put
so
I
put
the
rough
draft
like
it's
very
rough.
So
this
kind
of
like
ties
into
like
what
we
were
just
talking
about
with
linking
Andrea
I,
know
you
just
said,
like
you
assume,
or
it
said
the
assumption
would
be
that
the
linking
would
be
a
proposal,
that's
already
in
CD
events.
So
that's
what
ours
yeah!
H
That's
what
I'm
working
on
currently
so
last
in
the
last
Sig
meeting
me
and
Emil
went
through
some
basic
points
on
on
the
proposal,
it's
kind
of
like
a
high
overview,
but
some
of
the
questions
that
he
had
caused
me
to
really
think
about
some
things.
Some,
like
you
know
making
sure
that
it
satisfies
his
use
cases
as
well.
H
H
But
yeah
like
I,
said
the
the
foundation
is
there
but
like
there's
still
a
little
bit
of
like
massaging
that
needs
to
be
done
and
a
little
bit
more
additions
and,
and
then
I
think
maybe
here
in
a
couple
weeks
it
should
be
ready
for
for
review.
That's
that's
the
plan.
H
Or
already
it's
still
really
rough.
Give
me
give
me
a
few
days
and
let
me
answer
a
few
questions
that
you
had
previously
and
then
I'll
ping
you
on
on
I'll
ping,
everyone
on
slack
when,
when
it's
right
but
I
just
wanted
to
show
that
it's
up
and
then
you'll
be
you'll.
You're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
commit
changes
like
in
the
next
few
days
anyway.
So
I
don't
want
to,
like
you
know,
stomp
over.
You
know,
like
whatever
comments
that
you
have
so
just
yeah.
H
Were
yes?
Yes,
so
things
things
are
really
yeah,
really
really
good.
Oh
yeah,
that's
yeah,
I!
Think
thanks
Camille,
so
I
was
telling
Emil
I
met
with
a
few
teams
here
internally
at
Apple
and
and
they
really
liked
the
proposal.
I
did
bring
up
some
Emil's
points
which
they
said
is.
Is
you
know
perfect
and
fine?
H
You
know
that
should
be,
you
know,
and
they
agree
that
that
should
be
also
addressed
or
at
least
looked
into
for
for
the
proposal,
so
so
yeah
so
definitely
went
really
really
well,
and
people
are
really
excited
to
get
get
this
into
CD
events.
D
All
right,
let's
move
forward,
then
I
didn't
realize
we
had
this
in
the
agenda.
But
so
then
you
already
introduced
yourself.
Is
there
any
other
or
further
discussion.
D
And
thanks
again
for
an
introduction
and
for
joining
us
today,
so
we
have
City
events,
zero,
four
planning
would
it
make
sense
Emily
if
we
just
went
through
the
the
next
two
topics
quickly,
and
then
we
started
the
planning
and
maybe
of
course,
of
course,
yeah
for
sure.
Of
course,
I'll
just
move
it
to
the
end,
and
if
we
don't
manage
to
do
much
of
it,
maybe
we
can
put
it
as
a
first
topic
for.
D
Yes,
not
I
just
wanted
to
to
bring
some
updates
to
the
group,
so
one
of
the
things
we
discussed
about
for
next
is
signed
events,
so
especially
if
we
start
having
events
in
like
evidence
store,
you
want
to
to
use
events
to
do
things
like
audit
Trail
or
to
trigger
part
of
your
workload.
You
it's
important
to
be
able
to
be
sure
that
the
content
of
the
event
has
not
been
tampered
with.
D
So
I
looked
a
little
bit
into
this,
and
my
initial
thought
was
that
this
might
be
something
that
we
should
delegate
to
kind
of
the
envelope
layer
that
we
use
rather
than
implementing
it
in
CD
event
itself
like
a
signature
mechanism.
So
in
practice,
since
we
now
rely
on
cloud
events
for
for
as
a
binding,
that
would
mean
relying
on
signing
a
feature
from
cloud
events
which
does
not
exist
today.
D
So
I
had
a
little
bit
of
I
had
a
look
into
the
City
Event,
the
cloud
events
Community,
and
they
there
were
quite
a
few
conversation
already
on
assigning
events.
There
was
a
proposal
written
so
there
are
you
see
it.
There
is
an
issue.
D
I
think
this
is
the
main
issue:
I
could
find
like
message
produce,
produce
a
signature
that
dates
already
back
to
2020,
but
there
are
some
more
recent
comments
and
there
was
a
proposal
linked
here
about
signature
extensions.
It
was
not
merged,
so
it
was
closed
eventually.
So
I
I
put
a
comment
in
here.
I
also
commented
in
slack,
but
my
idea
is
that
it
would
be
really
great
to
to
get
this
into
Cloud
events
rather
than
having
to
implement
it
in
City
events.
D
H
Quick
question:
Andrea:
do
we
have
any
Security
Experts,
that's
part
of
the
Sega
any
any
of
the
sigs
at
all
the
reason,
why
is
I'm
a
little
hesitant?
You
know
not
saying
that
we're
not
capable,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
at
least
have
one
security
expert,
at
least
to
kind
of
you
know.
Look
things
over
or
you
know
kind
of
you
know
help
with
the
discussions.
D
Yeah,
that's
a
great
Point
man,
in
fact,
in
fact,
I
I
think
yeah,
maybe
already
at
this
stage,
if
it's
interesting
yeah,
so
I
I'm,
not
personally
a
security
expert
and
in
fact,
if
we
started
putting
together
a
proposal,
we
definitely
would
need
to
to
have
someone
involved
when
we're
starting
some
some
collaboration
with
the
open
ssf.
So
we
could
try
and
search
someone
from
so
some
reviews
or
comments
or
collaboration
with
the
open
ssf
for
this.
D
But
if
anyone
in
this
group
feels
like
they,
they
have
experience
in
this
area,
they
know
someone
who
might
want
to
collaborate.
I
think
that
that'd
be
great
to
share.
H
A
I
guess
that
I
think
it
makes
total
sense
to
to
have
this
on
the
the
envelope
levels
of
today.
I
don't
really
mind
at
this
spontaneously.
I
think
that's
a
good
idea
and,
as
I
said,
if
another
binding
would
be
added
to
see
the
events
later,
on
obviously
I
mean
the
silence
itself
doesn't
sign
the
events
then,
but
it's
up
to
The
Binding
layer
to
provide
that
and
if
that
new
binary
does
provided,
then
if
you
use
that
binding
layer,
you
will
not
get
satisfied.
A
D
Yeah
thanks
Emma
I
tend
to
agree.
Okay
in
any
more
comments.
D
I'll
try
to
to
see
if
I
can
think
folks
and
get
some
feedback
from
the
cloud
events
community
at
least
to
see
if
there
is
interest
from
the
people
who
created
the
original
Regional
proposals
and
if
they
ask
for
like
collaboration
or
more
like
implementation
from
from
our
site.
Definitely
we'll
try
to
find
some
someone
with
the
right
expertise
to
work
on
this.
D
Okay,
okay,
12
minutes
left.
D
Okay,
next
thing,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
some
updates
and
a
few
of
the
threads
that
we
had
open
but
feel
free
to
to
add
more
to
this,
if
you
have
more
updates
in
terms
of
City
events
in
Argo,
I
created
an
entry
in
this
project
view
we
have
just.
E
D
So
I
created
an
entry
for
our
for
Argo,
so
we
had
some
discussions
with
Michael
from
the
AGA
project
at
cdcon,
then,
unfortunately,
for
him
he
got
covered,
so
things
were
stuck
for
a
bit,
but
now
he
created
an
initial
drop
proposal.
Just
wanted
to
share
it
here.
So
yeah
I
think
it
would
be
great
for
for
us
to
to
chime
in
and.
E
D
On
this
and
help,
you
know
things
moving
moving
forward,
basically,
but
yeah,
so
I
think
it
definitely
is,
can
create
interest
in
adopting
City
events
on
the
Arca
site.
D
Yes,
well,
it's
in
the
Argo
City
The
Proposal
is
here
so
with
Michael.
We
just
we
chatted
at
least
about
actually
most
of
the
Argo
projects,
because
there
would
be
event
that
can
be
generated
from
our
workflow,
even
that
could
be
generated
by
Argo
CD
incoming
events
in
argocd.
It's
one
of
the
use
cases
for
sure,
as
well
as
with
this
cast
a
Plugin
or
one
adapter
for
the
cloud
Argo
events
project
as
well,
so
I,
don't
know
whether
those
would
require
separate
proposals
or
not
things.
D
Okay,
our
Harbor
is
a
cncf
project.
It's
a
registry
and
back
in
Amsterdam
cubecon.
They
announced
support
full
Cloud
events,
so
we
went
to
the
arga
booth
with
ML
and
discussed
with
a
maintainer
there
about
possibility
of
integrating
CD
Banks
yeah.
Since
we
didn't
have
much
follow-up
from
the
discussion,
I
tried
joining
the
dislike
Channel
and
chatting
with
the
harbor
folks
there
and
the
same
reasonably
interested
in
the
in
the
idea
is
one
of
them
answered
and
basically
asked
to
to
create
an
RFC.
D
If
he
wanted.
If
we're
serious
about
about
this
there
is,
they
have
a.
D
Proposals
I
thought
I
put
the
link
into
here,
but
I
didn't
well.
I
will
add
a
link
here,
so
they
have
a
physical
proposal
folder
in
the
harbor
repository
where
you
can
add
the
proposal,
so
I
was
planning
on
on
creating
one.
Maybe
what
I
can
do
is
to
First
create
a
draft
and
present
it
to
to
the
group
here
and
then
submitted
to
to
Harbor.
D
Just
stop
me
if
you
have
questions
otherwise,
I'll
just
continue
with
the
next
few
and
Chris.
So
we
are
having
conversation
with
other
registries
as
well.
So
we
are
the
meeting
today
with
jfrox
Emil
and
myself
and
fatty,
with
her
from
this
group,
the
idea
being
yeah
to
present
City
events
to
jeffro
and
discuss
the
benefits
of
having
CD
events
support
in
in
artifact.
D
E
D
Folks,
because
they
said
recently
announced-
and
they
implemented
the
registry
on
their
site,
and
so
I
was
discussing-
maybe
building
some
a
POC
with
them
to
see
the
event
support
from
from
there
registry,
as
well
so
foreign
other
than
that
CD
events
plus
GitHub.
So
we
had
some
conversation
with
Brad
Brad
is
working
on
a
GitHub
app
to
map
GitHub
events
into
CD
events
and
the
discuss
covering
core
events
so
like
pipeline
type
of
sorry,.
H
D
Event,
you
say
as
well
as
core
events,
so
like
pipeline
type
of
events
and
the
last
update
that
I
had
is
from
testcube.
So
only
after
the
the
implementation,
the
definition
of
test
event
was
merged
and
released.
Zero
to
three
only
mentioned
that
this
is
now
implemented
in
the
dev
branches
of
test
Cube,
and
hopefully
it
will
be
soon
a
release
coming
out
with
support
for
City
events.
I
Yeah
so,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
last
say,
given
speed,
so
the
peers
are
ready
for
review.
So
I
asked
Ben
to
review
some
and
if
any
Spinnaker
folks,
he
can
add
to
help
the
reviewing
of
CD
events
and
Spinnaker
integration.
So
I
have
a
demo
ready,
like
I
can
set
up
in
any
meetings
like
there's.
A
more
Spinnaker
folks
can
join
and
provide
their
feedback
on
the
integration,
so
I
I'll
be
able
to
demo
in
any
meetings.
If
all
are
available.
H
I
mean
either
works
for,
for
me,
I'm
just
more
Curious
to
you
know,
just
how
you
know
what
it
what
it
looks
like
you
know
how
how
it
plans,
or
you
know
how
the
flow
is
going
to
be
and
just
see
it
working
but
I
mean
it's
completely
up
to
you
guys
it's
just
more
from
my
interest.
To
be
honest,.
A
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
both
people
from
being
a
current
City
events,
seeing
that
such
a
demo
I
feel
very
great
if
we
could
have
it
in
this
in
a
common
session
us
through
projects
together,
I
mean
Spinnaker,
is
also
see
their
project
now
so
or
has
been
long
term.
So,
wouldn't
that
be
quite
cool
to
set
up
a
joint
project
meeting
with
Spinnaker
in
the
city
and
discuss
these
questions.
H
Oh
sorry,
yeah,
maybe
I,
misunderstood
I
thought
you
meant
like
share
the
demo
right
now.
Yeah,
but
I
do
agree
Emil.
So
what
I
can
do
is
I'll
ping,
some
people
on
the
Spinnaker
side
of
things
and
then
I'll
get
some
people
and
then
we
can
figure
out.
The
meeting
is
and
the
times
so
we
can
see
that
demo
and
then
kind
of
go
from
there.
H
I'm
sure
some
people
from
my
team
specifically
would
also
be
interested
in
seeing
it
here
in
apple
as
well,
so
it
might,
it
might
be
good
just
to
kind
of
like
get
as
whoever's
interested.
So
it
might
be
a
quite
quite
a
big
meeting,
but
you
know
that
works
out
perfect.
E
D
Nice
thanks
jalander
and
Ben,
so
looking
forward
to
this
all
right
I
think
we
only
have
a
couple
of
minutes
left,
so
what
I
do?
As
for
for
the
next
CD
events,
working
group
I'll
put
the
CD
events
zero
for
planning
on
on
top
of
the
agenda.
So
we
do
it
as
a
first
item.
We
don't
skip
it
to
to
another
meeting
again
but
yeah
so
I
would
say
unless
there
are
other
questions
or
final
remarks
from
anyone.
H
Yeah
awesome
and
and
great
great
demo
again
that
was
awesome.
Yeah,
so
appreciate
everyone
and
everyone's
comments.
So
yeah
I'll
be
talking
to
you
guys
here
in
a
little
bit
with
the
organizing
that
meeting.