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A
B
B
A
I'm
gonna
post
the
link
to
our
notes
in
the
chat
just
for
ease
just
make
sure
to
remember
to
add
your
names
for
attendance.
A
Great
to
see
you
Andrea
I
haven't
seen
you
in
a
while.
So
this
is
awesome.
C
Unfortunately,
I
got
a
couple
of
internal
meetings
now
that
give
me
like
permanent
conflict
with
this,
they
were
canceled
today,
so
I'm
able
to
join
yay.
A
A
All
right
so
I
don't
have
a
ton
on
the
agenda
today,
the
in
the
last
meeting
we
did
discuss.
You
know
future
roadmap
plans.
What
our
mission
is
did
DC
and
I
met
a
little
bit
prior
to
that
just
to
discuss
it.
We
also
discussed
you
know
getting
more
engagement
in
this
group.
Again
we
brought
this
up
at
the
TOC
as
well,
and
conversations
that
happen
between
now
and
then
you
know,
I
skipped
the
important
one
and
let's
hold
that
for
for
a
moment.
A
We
did
nominate
the
DC
to
be
co-chair
for
this
group
last
time
around
and
we
put
it
out
on
the
mailing
list.
I
didn't
see,
any
other
nominations
come
in,
so
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
a
vote
today
with
the
three
of
us
and
make
that
announcement
and
go
ahead
and
get
the
site
updated
with
the
DC's
name
and
stuff
and
announce
it
on
a
mailing
list.
A
A
Okay,
so
now
moving
on
to
the
next
item,
so
our
our
interoperability
Mission
and
road
map,
we
have
lots
of
ideas.
Last
time,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen,
so
you
can
see
what
I'm
looking
at.
A
Okay,
so
in
our
last
meeting
we
talked
about.
A
Reintroducing
the
interoperability,
Sig
and
then
continuing
work
on
the
white
paper.
A
And
bringing
in
items
like
visualization,
metrics
platform,
engineering
and
a
conversation
I
had
with
Fati
a
few
days
ago,
because
there's
another
Sig
out
there,
the
software
supply
chain
Sig
that
we're
trying
to
reinvigorate
as
well.
He
was
wondering
if
that,
if
it
might
make
sense
to
bring
that
back
under
interoperability,
I
think
that's
still
I,
don't
know
what
you
two
think
about
that
or
if
it's
still
worthy
as
its
own
separate
Sig.
But
we'll
continue
to
have
conversations
about
that.
A
If
we
want
to
do
that
under
this
sig
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
worthy
of
attention,
so
yeah
I,
let
him
know
of
our
plans
about
taking
a
vacation
for
our
next
month,
I'll
be
out
for
a
good
part
of
next
month
as
well.
A
A
So
were:
was
there
anything
else
that
came
up
for
you
in
the
last
couple
weeks
to
DC.
B
No
I
was
actually
out
one
of
those
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
I
did
see
the
the
slack
conversation
that
you
had
with
I
was
just
curious.
What
was
in
the
reference
architecture
so
far,
and
if
that
you
know
had
anything
concrete
or
is
it
just
the
conversation
of
what
that
looks
like.
B
A
B
B
What
problem
was
it
trying
to
solve
just
the
normal
questions,
I
guess
around
there
and.
D
A
That
history,
on
that
one,
it
was
started
by
Fati.
There
were
a
lot
of
folks
involved
at
the
very
beginning
of
that
Sig,
but
then
participation
dropped
off
significantly.
I
I
think
they
still
have
meetings
on
the
calendar,
but
I
don't
know
that
anyone's
going,
I
think
the
last
one
was
I,
don't
know,
maybe
in
March
or
something
so
that'll
be
that's
a
completely
different
seg.
We
need
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with,
and
just
one
of
the
ideas
was
maybe
bringing
that
under
here.
A
You
know
that
the
attestation
stuff
that
CD
events
is
talking
about
I
mean
I
feel
like
that
is
appropriate
for
that
Sig,
but
I
mean
it's
covered
in.
You
know
it's
being
discussed
in
CD
events,
so
not
really
sure
what
to
do
with
that
one.
We
might
need
to
sit
on
that
for
a
little
bit.
A
I
know
the
leaders
of
the
Sig
mentioned
that
the
direction
kind
of
went
in
a
way
they
were
no
longer
interested
in.
So
that's
you
know
one
of
the
reasons
their
participation
dropped
off,
so
I
guess
a
work
to
do.
There
is
maybe
just
go
back
and
look
at
some
of
the
videos
for
the
meetings,
because
I'm
sure
there
are
still
folks
that
are
wanting
to
be
involved.
It's
just.
It
was
a
difficult
time
of
year,
I
think
for
everyone.
So.
A
So
yeah,
that's
still
up
in
the
air.
D
C
For
the
oh
sorry
guys,
I
was
just
going
to
say,
since
we
we
have
less
people
involved.
I
guess
both
in
the
supply
chain
seek
as
well
as
in
this
one
I
I
think
it
would
make
sense
to
try
and
focus
our
resources
and
and
getting
people
involved
in
one
seek
at
least
to
start
with
and
then
yeah
kind
of
put
the
the
supply
chain
as
a
second
priority
that
that
would
be
my
I
mean
if
we
can
start
discussing.
C
A
Okay,
we
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
relaunching
August
3rd
and
things
we'd
like
to
do
before
then,
but
we
didn't
really
settle
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do
before
then
I
kind
of
would
like
to
have
a
to-do
list
so
that
we
have
something
ready
for
everyone
interested
and
some
you
know
push
in
marketing
push
in
social
media.
You
know
that
kind
of
stuff
to
get
people's
attention
again.
A
That
was
the
last
thing
that
I
really
wanted
to
talk
about
today
and
then
I'll
leave
it
open
to
you
too.
If
you
have
anything
else,.
A
B
B
So
I've
dedicated
the
next
like
the
next
two
days
literally
on
my
calendar
are
just
working
on
CDF
stuff,
so
yeah,
so
I
am
going
to
focus
on
writing
for
the
next
couple
days.
We'll
see
how
that
turns
out.
If
I
can
finish
some
of
the
stuff
that
I
had
started
and
I
think
the
goal
that
we
had
said
of
trying
to
have
you
know
new
blog
posts
really
got
clear
mission
statement.
B
Those
are
the
things
that
I
I
I'm
planning
like
I'm
sitting
here,
focusing
on
so
you
know,
I
all
I
can
do
is
like
do
stuff
post
it
back
in
our
visit.
The
group
chat
then
placed
the
signature
operability.
That's
the
place
to
post
right
and
say:
hey
guys,
take
a
look
at
this.
Yes,
and
then
we
can.
You
know,
do
that
I
think
we
I
had
established
those
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
and
those
are
still
the
same
thing.
B
I
think
to
under
s
point
the
you
know,
bringing
things
in
and
having
a
place
to
discuss
it
and
where
that
fits
overall
is
how
I
saw
the
interoperability
say
because,
like
the
place
where
ideas
might
start,
and
then
we
launched
someplace
else
as
we
talk
about
how
to
incorporate
them
into
the
CDF
I
think
that's
a
good
message
to
also
have
like
as
a
part
of
the
mission
statement.
So
that's
really
really
clear.
B
When
we
talk
about
what
our
goals
are,
and
at
least
to
give
that
back
to
Fati
and
say,
is
this
in
line
with
what
you're
thinking
and
how
you
want
to
see
this
group
go
and
do
that.
That
is
my
thought.
My
other
thought
and
thing
that
I
want
to
understand
is
like,
as
a
co-chair
like
I,
see
most
of
you
doing
so
much
stuff
to
kind
of
keep
everything
like
going
and
like
what
have
that?
What
are
those
responsibilities?
Do
you
want
to
shift,
but
that's
a
conversation.
Of
course
we
can
take
offline.
B
You
know
just
and
I
I,
but
also
we're
about
to
take
a
break,
and
so
it's
like,
oh
well,
we're
like
waiting
to
do
this
or,
like
you
know
like
how.
How
do
we
want
to
to
approach
that
work?
Load
and
I
am
like
you
like
I
want
I
need
things
to
put
on
my
calendar,
like
you
need
to
get
this
done
so
that
you
know
things
are
getting
done.
B
B
So
I
don't
know
if
that
added
anything
to
the
conversation
or
it
was
just
like
more
noise,
but
yeah
I
agree
with
you.
We
need
a
list
of
things
that
we
want
to
get
done.
I
think
the
things
that
we
have
already
set.
We
just
need
to
say
to
split
it
up
and
start
doing
it.
You.
A
A
I'm
thinking
is
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
behind
the
scenes
we
can
communicate
in
the
slack
channel.
Of
course,
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
DMS
between
you
and
I
and
and
Fati
and
stuff
I
think
we
should
start
moving
that
into
the
group
chat,
so
everyone's
aware
of
what
we're
doing
and
what
we're
working
on
and
even
if
we
don't
meet
next
month,
I
think
there's
still
stuff.
You
know
we
can
do
asynchronously.
A
You
said
you
had
the
next
couple
days
free.
Would
you
like
to
meet
with
me
just
so
I
can
talk.
D
B
No
definitely
my
Friday
is
super
clear,
which
is
weird
yeah
and
I.
Don't
know
oh
you're
in
Denver
right,
yes,
okay
and
I
have
no
idea
how
that
works
out
to
spec.
You
know
Pacific
time,
I'm,
100
American,
the
only
thing
that
matters
is
where
I
am
right
now
so
yeah
other
than
a
like
a
9
30
Pacific
meeting
that
goes
for
half
an
hour.
My
Friday
is
technically
really
clear.
A
Okay,
cool
I'll,
send
you
an
invite
and
we
can
move
it
around
as
needed,
because
my
Friday
is
pretty
open
as
well,
so
we
can
get
some
stuff
done,
yay,
okay,
what
else?
Oh,
the
call
for
papers
for
kubecon
is
about
to
close
I'm
wondering
if
we
ought
to
try
and
get
anything
submitted
around
interoperability.
What
we're
working
on
is
that
something
you
would
be
interested
in
to
DC
or
and
Andrea
I.
Don't
know
if
you
have
plans
to
come
back
to
this
side
of
the
world
for
a
coupon.
C
I
I
made
a
submission
yesterday
about
City
events,
okay,
similar
to
this
to
what
I
presented
at
silicon
in
Vancouver,
basically
to
talk
about
interoperability
between
CPU
through
CED
events
and
kind
of
adoptions
that
we
have
today
and
what
we've
been
doing
in
that
area,
but
yeah,
so
that
that's
very
easy
event
specific,
but
yeah
I
mean
City.
Events
is
about
into
probability
so
I.
If
the.
If
my
talk
is
selected,
I
I
plan
on
visiting
Chicago,
but
otherwise
I'm
not
sure
you
can
see
how
it
goes.
All.
D
C
A
I
actually
just
thought
of
it.
Yesterday
I
was
doing
my
own
submissions
just
for
my
own
stuff
and
thought.
Maybe
this
would
be
something
we
should
think
about
brainstorm
on
use
this
time
to
do
that
and
I
don't
want
to
duplicate.
You
know
or
yeah
talk
about
the
same
things
you're
talking
about
Andrea
because
I'm,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
stomp
on
that
at
all,
and
you
know,
as
far
as
like
setting
up
a
panel
discussion,
I
mean
when
you
fill
those
things
out.
It's
we
kind
of
need
to
have
people.
A
B
Always
but
I
I
agree
with
your
point,
I
think.
If,
if
it's
about
to
end
soon,
it
would
be
kind
of
tough
to
kind
of
figure
out
and
put
something
together
that
that
sounded.
You
know
like
it
wasn't
going
to
be
a
repeat
of
what
might
be
in
the
city.
Events
talk,
but
it's
also
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
B
A
Okay,
well,
I'll
keep
thinking
about
it,
I'm
in
abstract,
writing
mode
right
now,
so
yeah
I
can
post
any
ideas
to
the
slack
Channel
too,
between
now
and
Sunday,
of
course,
and
then
maybe
when
we
meet
tomorrow
too,
we
can
go
over
a
few
ideas.
Okay,.
B
B
You
know
it
would
help
me
at
least
to
to
hear
what
this
group
is
in
your
opinion
or
or
what
it
was
for.
Originally
I
I
Know,
It
This.
The
this
sig
is
where
at
least
the
way
that
it
was
explained
to
me.
Like
the
original
conversations
about
hey.
How
do
we
do
see
the
events
started,
and
then
that
became
its
own
sick?
Is
that
accurate
or.
A
B
So
the
concept
of
like
brainstorming,
a
group
to
like
brainstorm
and
kind
of
plot,
you
know
additions
and
directions
in
interoperability
to
call
out
spaces
that
are
missing
or
you
know,
needs
that's
what
I
see
the
interoperability
say,
guys
it's
like
the
the
people
who
are
thinking
about
okay,
what's
next
or
if
this
other
piece
Works?
How
does
it
fit
together
in
the
bigger
plan?
Is
that
also
in
line
with
everybody's
thoughts
for
the
Sig
or.
B
All
right,
I.
D
B
So
all
right
cool,
then
I'm,
thinking
of
it
correctly
I
just
didn't
want
to
like
you
know,
go
off
and
be
like
that
easy
is
doing
stuff
again.
So,
okay
cool,
if
it's,
if
this
is
what
that's
supposed
to
be
I,
think
we
can
I
think
I'm
pretty
sad,
then
all
right,
cool
cool.
B
B
Yeah,
that's
that's!
So
that's
pretty
much
everything
that
I
needed
and.
C
C
Yeah
I
think
I
might
have
skipped
it
because
it's
yeah
26th
to
the
28th
of
September
yeah
we're
going
to
have
guests
at
home
and
it's
also
my
son's
birthday.
So.
C
Know
too
yeah
we'll
be
traveling
on
those
dates,
so
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
virtual
attendance,
a
mutual
presentation
and
option
for
that
one
do
you
know.
A
I
don't
know,
I
was
gonna,
take
some
time
to
look
at
it
to
see
I've
never
been
to
that
one.
So
I,
don't
know
what
it's
like
and
I.
Don't
know
that
my
company
is
sponsoring
it.
So
I,
don't
think
we've
been
there
before
so
yeah
open-ended
questions
about
that.
One.
C
C
I
didn't
see
anything
well.
I
I
I'd
be
open
to
submit
if
there
was
like
yeah
virtual
attendee
option,
I'm,
not
sure.
D
A
C
D
C
In
in
November
right,
so
yes,
there
is
a
little
bit
of
time
between
August
and
November,
but
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
it's
enough
time
to
build
something
that
we
could
present
there
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
were
to
say:
okay
yeah,
we
really
want
to
say:
okay,
let's,
let's
do
the
reference
architecture,
so
we're
going
to
break
a
lot
of
people
in
and
focus
100
on
that,
and
then
we
can
make
a
submission
and
say:
okay,
yeah.
This
is
what
we've
done
on
the
reference
architecture,
but
that's.
C
Feel
slightly
slightly
uncomfortable,
though,
making
a
submission
with
starting
from
close
to
zero.
At
this
point
right,
yeah
I
would
want
to
know
that,
yes,
that's
some
interesting
results
or
experiences
already
say:
oh
yeah,
we
have
something
nice
to
present
and
we
need
to
finish
it
off
until
November,
but.
C
D
C
That's
the
only
thing
that
that
came
to
mind
is
maybe
yeah
some
some
cool
topic,
because
yeah
there
is
the
app
delivery
tag
in
cncf,
the
all
the
github's
tools
like
cargo
flux,
so
those
kind.
This
kind
of
topic
is
relevant
for
people
that
is
interested
in
those
projects
and
those
groups
as
well.
So.
A
D
A
All
right,
I
have
a
meeting
tomorrow,
actually
with
a
couple
folks
about
reference
architecture,
work
and
it
initially
was
just
going
to
be
fatigue
and
the
nginx
person
his
name's
Damien.
That
would
be
interested
in
helping
with
it
just
to
get
everyone
up
to
speed.
I,
don't
know
if
the
DC,
if
you'd
be
interested
in
joining
that
meeting
or
or
you
Andrea,
if
you
are
I,
can
add
you
to
the
invite.
A
Otherwise
we
will
report
back
what
we
discussed.
It's
mainly
just
a
level
set
of
where
we
are
and
what
the
goals
would
be
for
that
and
then
Damien
will
be
available
in
the
next
meetings
as
well.
When
we
relaunch
to
talk
about
that
during
the
meeting
and
stuff.
B
Yeah
I
I.
It
sounds
like
something
that
you
guys
have
and
I'm
wondering
happy
to
attend.
If
you
want
me
to,
but
you
know
just
as
happy
to
let
you
handle
it.
If
you
guys
are,
it
sounds
like
you
guys,
are
comfortable
upset.
D
A
C
D
D
A
A
A
The
group
just
to
at
least
let
everyone
know
that
we
will
be
breaking
here
for
a
bit
and
then
relaunching
August
3rd
and
then
between
now
and
then
we'll
get
our
agenda
established
for
August
3rd
and
get
some
of
these
ideas
that
we
had
talked
about
last
meeting
done,
reintroducing
the
group
and
things
like
that.