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From YouTube: June 29th, 2021 Ortelius General Community Meeting
Description
In this meeting the team discusses cdCon 2021, the September release, governance and the first podcast.
C
A
Get
you
you
get,
you
mean
towards
your
towards
your
badge.
A
A
Have
to
no
for
attilius,
I
have
to
look
to
see
where
you
are
on
the
spreadsheet.
So
I
think
you
are
mostly
done
stuff.
That's
in
your
yeah!
So
it'll
get
you
closer
to
your
legend
status.
A
I
don't
know
you
know
the
cncf
issues
badges
for
doing
talks,
but
I
don't
know
the
c.
I
don't
think
the
cdf
has
ever
done
it.
I
haven't
got
one
in
the
past,
but
you
know
what
I'll
bring
it
up
I'll
bring
it
up
at
the
next
meeting,
because
the
cncf
always
has
issues
that
it's
not
a
cnc.
I
think
it
might
be
a
cncf
badge
or
maybe
it's
a
linux
foundation
badge,
but
that
would
be
nice
if
we
got
badges
for
doing
it
right.
A
Now
yeah,
so
I
have
one
like
I'll
show
you
I'll
share
my
screen.
E
A
A
G
F
Yeah,
my
wife's
uncle
passed
away
really
yeah.
F
F
A
Yeah,
I
know
it
took
a
while
to
get
to
it.
They
we
did
all
of
our
seniors
first
as
well.
A
F
A
A
Well,
everybody
please
stay
safe,
we've
got
to.
G
A
D
A
We
are
at
january
29th,
good
god,
steve
is
not
here.
We
haven't
heard
from
christopher
and
siddharth
has
some
family
things
going
on
as
well.
So
here
is
the
I'm
going
to
put
this
in
the.
H
A
So,
let's
just
get
down
to
the
beeswax
of
it
all.
Let
me
take
notes
and
talk
at
the
same
time,.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
the
general
community
meeting,
which
means
that
we
just
kind
of
briefly
go
over
the
things
that
are
happening
on
the
coding
front.
Steve
has
got,
I
think,
he's
created
more
issues
out.
There
he's
really
trying
to
finish
the
work
around
the
service
catalog
and
any
integrations
that
we
need
to
do
around
that.
I
I
do
not
know
I.
A
I
don't
have
a
full
update
for
you
and
he's
on
another
call,
so
we'll
hope
that
he
he
signs
up
here
in
a
minute
and
can
give
everybody
an
update
of
where
he's
at,
because
that's
probably
the
most
important
thing
is.
We
do
want
to
get
a
release
out
as
a
team.
We
have
never
done
a
release
yet
so
getting
a
release
out
by
the
end
of
like
early
fall
time
frame
is
what
we're
shooting
for.
A
So
it
can
be
ready
for
announcements
at
kubecon,
and
that's
probably
the
biggest
place
that
we
want
to
do.
That
announcement
is
that
steve.
K
Okay,
so
on
that
front
we
are
in
the
process
of
pulling
together
the
front
end
with
the
back
end.
So
that's
where
we
started.
We
do
have
a
couple.
K
Needs
so,
if
anybody's
interested
in
some
programming,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
huge
lift,
but
it
will
be
a
couple
hours
to
help
pull
together
some
of
the
microservices
on
the
back
end
side,
sergio
put
together,
what's
called
a
pie
breaker
for
like
a
database
connection
piece
and
we
need
to
integrate
that
into
our
existing
services.
K
So
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at.
If
somebody's
interested
in
golang,
we
have
some
golang
programming
as
well.
So
it's
really
at
the
point
of
pulling
the
pieces
together
and
cleaning
everything
up
to
get
it
kind
of
plumb
together
and
start
testing
on
that
on
that
process.
A
When
do
you
think
the
testing
will
get
started.
K
It's
just
it's
literally
some
some
python
flash
stuff
that
you
did
before.
So
it's
the
micro
services
side.
So
we're
not
I'm
not
throwing
it
in
into
the
the
the
monolith
that
would
just
be
cruel
to
throw
you
into
the
monolith.
Part
of
the
coding.
I
know.
K
Who
it
was,
I
was
going
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
javascript,
even
that's
pretty
pretty
hairy,
but
the
microservices
are
where
we
need
to
just
tidy
those
up
and
get
that,
so
we
can
plumb
the
back
end
on
the
front
end,
that's
really
where
we're
at
at
that
level.
So
it's
just
like
you
know
our
micro
services
are
are
really
nice
they're.
K
I
think,
like
100
lines,
long
when
we
add
in
the
pi
pie
breaker,
we
may
go
a
little
bit
to
like
200
line
python,
flash
programs
but
they're
pretty
small.
You
know
on
the
monolith
side,
the
java
class
that
interacts
with
the
database
that
one's
35
000
lines
long.
So
it's
a
big
big
shift
in
how
the
architecture
is
pulling
together.
F
F
K
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
huge,
so
that's
the
beauty
of
the
microservices
to
be
able
to
break
these
apart.
Let
people
work
on
them
in
an
isolated
world.
They
really
can
test
them
out,
get
everything
get
everything
working
and
then
we
can
just
literally
bring
them
in
and
do
all
the
plumbing
and
to
hook
them
together.
So
that's
when
we
were
at
looking.
K
A
So
students,
great
and
students
like
a
tool,
a
novicom.
This
would
be
a
good
place
for
you
to
start
too,
and
you
know
on
any
of
this
stuff.
I,
as
sasha,
has
discovered
it's
really
easy
to
reach
out
to
steve
when
you
get
into
trouble.
So
I
want
everybody
to
take
that
as
a
as
a
good
lesson.
A
K
K
And
this
is-
and
you
know
what
we're
doing
is
real
world
programming
versus
you
know
doing
a
school
assignment
or
something
like
that
where
it's
kind
of
they've
set
up
the
boundaries,
so
you
can't
really
get
too
messed
up
here,
we'll
let
you
really
mess
up
and
and
we
can
undo
it
because
that's
the
real
world.
You
know
when,
when
you
get
a
get
repo,
that's
just
being
a
pain.
K
You
know
you
get,
these
bizarre
merge
problems
and
things
like
that.
You
know.
That's!
That's
the
real
world
that
we
run
into.
G
K
D
H
K
K
And
on
the
flip
side,
it's
going
to
be,
you
know
the
stuff
that
we
need
to
kind
of
tidy
up
and
wrap
up.
It
may
seem
like
little
trivial
things,
but
when
you
spread
it
out
over,
you
know
we're
going
to
have
probably
about
a
dozen
microservices
for
the
service
catalog,
you
know
making
one
change
all
the
way
across
is
going
to
be.
A
Okay,
on
the
less
fun
side
of
the
business,
we
have
to
we're
going
to
be
putting
together
a
governance
board.
As
we
spoke.
E
A
A
This
we
need
to
read
through
it
and
probably
sometime
early
in
late
in
july,
probably
a
month
from
now
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
some
voting
and
determine
how
we
want
to
govern
the
governance
board,
to
act
and,
like
I
have
said
before,
many
of
you
who
are
on
this
call
probably
will
be
the
ones
being
in
the
governance
board.
So
take
it.
You
know,
take.
H
A
Particularly
sasha
karam,
those
of
you
who
have
been
around
for
a
while.
We
really
want
your
your
feedback.
F
A
We're
having
really
we're
having
a
rainstorm
for
a
change,
and
I
think
that,
because
I've
everybody's
been
breaking
up
on
me,
that's
why
I
couldn't.
F
A
The
governance
board
can
we
need
for
first
of
all,
we're
way
we're
not
even
close
to
being
a
graduated
project
and
the
cdf.
However,
you
really,
you
have
to
have
a
governance
board
to
be
a
graduated
project
and.
L
A
A
governance
board
can
do
some
other
things
too.
A
governance
board
can
decide.
Let's
say
we
want
to.
You,
know,
elect
or
decide
somebody's
going
to
be
a
release,
manager,
somebody's
going
to
be
a
product
owner
somebody's
going
to
be
a
security
manager.
We
can
actually
assign
those
titles
as
the
governance
board.
We
can
say
these
are
the
people
who
these
are
the
roles
that
we
want
to
add,
and
then
we
would.
A
We
would
look
for
people
to
fill
those
those
those
titles
and
they
and
that
those
may
be
people
who
are
part
of
the
governance
board.
So
if
somebody
wants
to
be
a
release
manager,
we
would
add.
H
A
That
release
manager
title
and
say
that
they
have
to
attend
the
governance
boards
in
order
to
be
the
release
manager.
So
it
puts
a
now
with
an
open
source
project
like
jenkins,
where
you
they
literally
have
thousands
of
people
who
have
contributed
or
even
like
kubernetes.
It's
it's
it's
essential,
but
it
does
help.
It
helps
with
forming
a
more
professional,
open
source
community,
and
so
that's.
A
To
do
it
and
then
there's
some
things
that
can
be
sent
to
the
governing
board
like
do
we
want
to
participate
in
google
season
of
docs,
but
do
we
want
to
you
know
that
kind
of
thing,
the
other
things
that
they
could
decide
on
is:
do
we
want
to
start
do?
Do
we
want
to
do
some
crowd
funding?
Do
we
want
to
try.
D
F
A
K
And
also
it
helps
when
quick
decisions
need
to
be
made,
that
the
board
can
go
ahead
and
handle
that
instead
of
trying
to
get
the
whole
community
together
and
then
do
like
two
weeks
of
voting
or
something
like
that,
it
kind
of
helps
move
that
along
because
it's
like
that's
already
pre-done,
because
they've
the
the
community
has
elected
the
board
and
then
the
board
can
make
some
quick
decisions.
And
it's
things
like
you
know.
All
of
a
sudden.
K
We
make
it
a
spot
to
open
up
for
cubecon
where
we
wanna
they're
gonna,
give
us
a
a
trade
show
booth
or
something
like
that.
We
need
to
decide
whether
we
want
to
do
that
or
not
those
type
of
things
that
will
come
up
along
the
on
that
happen
like
that
through
and
the
board
will
help
just
move
that,
along
quicker.
K
And,
like
you
said
sasha,
it
definitely
helps
bring
the
form
realization
to
it
and
even
right
now,
if
we,
if
it's
just
a
few
people,
you
know
like
the
whole
kubernetes
board
is
huge.
You
know
because
they're
they're
dealing
with
so
many
thousands
of
people
you
know,
but
for
us
to
get
this
structure
in
place.
It'll
definitely
help
yeah.
F
K
Eventually
will
work
that
way,
and
so,
as
part
of
the
the
board
like
we'll
move-
and
we
don't
really
follow
this
yet,
but
you
know
there's
this
whole
like
graduation
class
in
the
github
permissions
level.
You
know
where
somebody
like
right
now.
Most
of
you
don't
have
access
to
do
a
pull,
merge
a
pull
request
or
approve
a
pull
request,
but
that
eventually
comes
about
as
part
of
the
whole
process,
where
you
get
this
whole
hierarchy
of
who's
who,
in
in
the
get
get
repos?
K
Who
can
do
what
any
move
up?
As
as
you
contribute,
that's
a
little
bit
separate
than
the
board,
but
that's
kind
of
what
what
ends
up
happening
on
these
bigger
projects?
Where
and
that's
where
the
work
is
distributed
off
to
other
people
that
are
we'll
take
those
responsibilities
on
down
the
road.
A
Okay,
so
that's
the
governance
board
and
there
was
something
else
about,
oh
as
soon
as
I
get
a
copy
of
it,
the
mark
weight
and
oleg
from
the
jenkins
governance
board.
I
did
a
really
great
presentation
at
cdcon
chrome
and
I
were
really
asking
them
lots
of
questions
about
how
they
built
it.
So
when
that
comes
around
get
recorded,
I'll,
be
sure
and
post
it
out
on
discord,
I
highly
recommend
we
all
watch
it.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Yeah,
take
a
look
at
that
this
road
map.
It's
it's
kind
of
cool
the
way
they
did
it
and
none
of
those
have
dates
assigned
to
them,
so
they
get
done
when
they
get
done
and
they
made
it
a
kind
of
a
conscious
decision
not
to
put
deadlines
on
any
of
these.
So
what
happens
is
this
is
the
way
the
community
themselves.
If
somebody
wants
to
take
on
one
of
these
and
get
it
done
and
get
it
pushed
out
it
can
it
can
do
so.
A
So
it's
very
democratic
that
the
way
they've
built
it
out
now
there's
a
lot
of
features
on
this
as
you
can
see,
but
like
they
said
they,
some
of
them
may
never
get
done
and
they
really
are
at
a
point
where
the
the
community
makes
a
decision
on
what
should
be
moving
from.
A
I
guess
right
to
left
in
this
case,
so
anything
on
the
left
side
has
already
been
released
and
things
that
are
at
a
preview
level
and
things
that
they're
currently
working
on,
and
this
is
all
done
in
a
just
a
a
yaml
file
that
you
can
update
and
check.
In
so
it's
kind
of
their
way
of
being
having
a
project
management
tool
to
show
all
the
features
that
are
that
they're
working
on,
but
they
don't
assign
any
dates
to
them.
I
really
really
liked
this
model.
A
I
think
that
we
should
try
copying
it
when
we
get
a
chance
if
somebody
wants
to
take
that
on.
That
would
be
great,
but
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
the
governance
board
gets
to
work
on.
A
Yes
yeah
now,
so
they
have
a
lot
of
insights
that
we
can
learn
from
and
they
know
that
we're
watching.
In
fact
they
kept
talking
to
us,
because
we
were
asking
the
questions,
so
we
can
always
reach
out
to
them
as
well
and
get
some
direction
from
them.
I
think
that
they
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
acknowledging
how
much
work
they've
put
into
the
governance
level
and
are
going
to
be
happy
to
help
us.
K
And
I
I
would
just
say
that
a
you
know
a
secret
in
being
successful
in
this
is
knowing
what
the
copy
and,
when.
A
A
Exactly
and
then
the
last
thing
is,
we
are
ready
to
start
our
podcasts.
The
doc
is
out
there.
The
form
is
out
there.
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Please
do
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
that
live
probably
this
week
or
next
week.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
it
really
quick.
K
I
think
it
was
pretty
well
open,
I
think
I
know
the
there's
so
many
pieces
to
the
podcast
that
somebody,
if
you're
interested
in
figuring
out
like
the
back
end
piece
dealing
with
buzzfeed
and
getting
things
recorded
as
well
as
you
know
doing
them,
you
know
being
asking
questions
as
a
moderator,
there's
all
sorts
of,
because
it's
all
new.
We
have
a
lot
of
options
on
the
podcast
side.
A
A
K
I
don't
remember,
but
that's
you
can
go
back
in
the
history.
A
Thank
you
that
did
work,
okay,
so
here's
the
form
I
thought
I
was
looking
at
the
form
live.
I
guess
I
have
to
no.
M
A
I
thought
I
had
this
done.
Okay
resume
collecting,
maybe
siddharth
turned
it
off,
so
nobody
could
collect
from
it.
A
Yeah,
it
looks
like
he
added
some
stuff,
so
it
looks
like,
but
in
here
now
is
that
you
select
out
of
the
the
group
implementation
stories
insights
on
decomposing
and
monolith,
how
your
pipeline
is
changing
new,
tooling
you're,
using
how
you're
defining
your
clusters
coordinating
database
updates
application
updates
and
infrastructure
changes.
Insights
on
your
git
ops
process.
A
A
What
my
suggestion
is
is
that
we
I'm
going
to.
I
want
to
send
this
out
to
the
general
population
and
ask
some
people
from
the
general
population
to
start
signing
up
to
do
podcasts
and
that
will
make
us
get
our
act
together,
because
we'll
have
a
podcast
to
do
and
we'll
just
go
for
it.
We
already
have
a
buzz
sprout
set
up
and
then
we'll
get
better
at
doing
it.
A
So
sime
is
not
on
today,
but
I
know
he
wanted
to
help.
I
know
sasha
you
had
talked
about
it,
so
if,
if
that
is
something
that
you
guys
are
okay
with
be
sure
you
look
at
this
and
if
there's
anything
that
yeah
definitely.
F
Okay,
filling
it
in,
but
I
don't
know
if
I
have
enough
just
enough
time
or
enough
info
to
do
a
whole
video.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
I
do
have
nothing
to
do
already
on
my
own,
but
I
prefer
to
do
mine,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
github
space,
because
it's
basically
what
I'm
doing
every
day
at
the
moment,
yeah
migrating
various
teams
from
around
the
world
onto
our
aws
platform.
F
L
F
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
understand
more
about
what
your
expectation
is
around.
You
know
around
the
topics,
and
how
long
are
you
looking
to
be?
Can
they
be
in
a
group
maybe
yeah.
A
A
About
you
know
some
of
the
the
human
pains
of
get
offs.
That
would
be
great
and
I
hope
that
you're
sending
off
some
requirements
to
the
folks
in
australia.
So
they
can
start
seeing.
F
K
Yes,
please
do
because
I
know
those
the
folks
in
australia
are
craving
information
around
the
the
get
ops
problem,
so
they
can
make
sure
that
they're
addressing
it.
A
D
A
A
Yeah
and
then
go
ahead
and
schedule
it.
You
know
decide
on
a
time
and
then
we'll
have
to
you
know
next
week,
we'll
pull
it
together
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
do
our
first
podcast
and
we'll
just
get
it
started.
Just
like
we
did
with
our
our
visionary
summit.
We
just
went
for
it
and
I
think
those
are
the
that's
the
easiest
way
to
do.
It.
F
F
F
First,
first,
okay:
here
we
go
guys,
I'm
filling
it
in
right
now,
great.
C
I
think
sergio
had
mentioned
that
sasha
would
be
the
one
and
only
host.
A
All
right,
so
I
think
that
is
all
that
we
need
to
cover
so
right
right
right
now,
the
three
important
things
are
getting
the
the
service
catalog
out
the
door
before,
like
september
1st,
even
though
we
just
said
we
were
going
to
do
deadlines
this
one
I
think
we
have
to
so,
we
can
get
it
started.
A
B
Yeah
hi
everyone,
my
name
is
avikam
and
I'm
currently
studying
retake
at
niet
delhi
at
my
fourth
year
so
like
I
also
don't
have
much
experience
like
you
guys,
but
I'm
trying
trying
to
learn
a
bit
of
devops
and
cloud
right
now.
A
A
Okay,
everybody.
Thank
you.
I
will
I've
taken
seven
more
minutes
than
I
deserved,
so
I
appreciate
the
time
and.
C
One
last
question
like
what
are
the
right:
what
are
the
criterias
to
be
a
graduated
project
like
how
they
how
the
cdf
community
decides
operates
our
graduate
project
or
not.
K
Adoption
of
the
the
of
the
project
and
also
how
much
the
project
has
grown
over
time,
so
the
only
one
in
the
cdf
that's
graduated
so
far
is
jenkins
right.
K
So
it's
pretty
and
I
from
what
I
remember
like
even
on
the
the
cncf
side
with
kubernetes,
it
took
them
several
years
to
get
everything
in
place
just
for
kubernetes
to
graduate
up
one
level.
K
So
there
is
a
out
there
somewhere.
I'd
have
to
figure
out
from
you
know
where
the
documentation
is
where
it
talks
about
the
definition
for
a
graduated
project.
But
it's
it's.
It's
a
pretty
big
lift.
F
And
what
is
the
sorry
and
what
is
the
benefits
once
you've
graduated?
Nothing,
nothing.
A
M
F
F
K
We'll
be
we'll
be
when
we
graduate
or
we'll
get
ortilius
ti
as
to
where
to
work.
I.
A
On
the
adoption
front,
steve
is
going
to
be
doing
cohorts.
One
is
this
afternoon
and
one
is
on
thursday
morning
and
the
cohort
is
to
help
with
adoption.
A
So
if
you
want
to
go
through
a
whole
training,
steve
is
going
to
start
doing
that
just
in
groups
so
that
everybody's
working
to
set
things
up
together
and
we'll
probably
just
keep
doing
this
every
four
weeks.
So
it
might
be
a
permanent
thing
that
steve
does
for
now,
and
then
anybody
who
wants
to
be
kind
of
a
registered
or
a
certified
trainer
will
have
them
start
taking
over
a
cohort,
maybe
one
or
two
a
year,
something
like
that.
But
right
now
steve's
going
to
be
doing
it.
A
So
if
that's
something
you
want
to
do
just.
K
A
I
A
Deploy
hubs
sponsoring
that
we're
advertising
it
through
deploy
hub,
but
it
will
be
or
it
will
be
deployed
team
because
we'll
do
it
on
the
sas
version,
which
is
all
ortilius.
A
F
K
Oh,
if
anybody
wants
stickers,
oh.
A
A
Send
me
your
address
and
I've
got
a
pile
of
envelopes
tonight
right
here
on
my
desk
and
I
just
get
the
email
I
fill
it
out
and
I
stick
it
in
the
mail
and
we
did
learn
too,
and
I
have
to
confirm
this
from
the
jenkins
governance
board
presentation
that
we
can
make
our
own
swag
and
I
got
to
clarify
that
to
make
sure
so,
for
example,
in
india,
siddharth
had
volunteered
to
manage
the
swag,
so
we
could
find
something
in
india
to
make
the
t-shirts
and
then
they
can
get.
C
Yeah
the
logo
is
like
so
would
you
say,
covered
by
a
creative
commons
right,
so
anyone
is
free
to
use
that.
A
Yes,
so
if
that's
the,
if
that's
the
case
for
all
the
cdf
logos,
then
we
can
then
we'll
you
know,
chrom
or
or
siddharth
or
bug
one
of
you
to
find
a
t-shirt
printer
in
india
and
just
print
them
there
and
have
one
of
you
ship
them
out.
C
A
Yep
I
wish
there
was
a
you
know,
a
service
in
india
that
we
could
just
connect
to
the
ortilius
website.
That
says,
if
you're
in
india
click
here
and
then
you
can
select
it
as
a
swag,
you
know
from
the
providers
out
of
india.
I
don't
know
why
the
cncf
doesn't
or
the
the
linux
foundation
doesn't
do
that.
A
L
A
A
L
A
Fun
so
we
could
probably
do
some
our
own
swag
and
we'll
we'll
think
about
that
coming
up,
I'm
trying
not
to
do
too
much
over
the
summer
because
we've
already
got
enough
on
our
plate,
so
maybe
in
the
fall
we'll
start
thinking
about
how
to
do
our
own
swag.
C
Yeah
football
club
logos
for
artillery
would
be
good.
A
Yep,
but
you
can
get
a
sticker
and
I'll
send
you
stickers,
just
shoot
me
an
email,
and
I
will
get
them
out
to
you,
because
it's
only
like
a
buck
20
for
me
to
send
you
a
sticker,
and
we
can
do
that.