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A
A
That
doc
contains
a
lot
of
words
because
notes
have
been
added
to
it
essentially
and
our
main
question
for
this
evening
or
this
today's
meeting
is:
do
we
want
to
do
tracks
or
do
we
want
to
do
bullet
points
for
areas
of
focus,
for
submissions
and
victor's
already,
given
the
feedback
that
he
thinks
that
sort
of
the
bullet
points
or
areas
of
focus
are
a
little
bit
better,
because
if
someone
submits
their
track
and
then
the
tracks
change,
which
is
always
very
possible
depending
on
the
submissions
we
get
it,
they
might
feel.
A
A
B
Know
when
you
it's
typical,
when
you
submit
you
can
put
tags
like
cd
githubs
this
or
that.
A
Yes,
so
what
we
have
done
actually
is
our
two
two
options
track
options.
So
we
have
either
a
track
option
or
bullet
point
option.
C
A
Is
for
kubecon
europe?
That's
coming
up
and
they
do
this
pretty
standard
for
for
our
cncf
conferences.
A
They
will
have
you
choose
a
topic
and
it's
this
sort
of
idea
that
you,
you
sort
of,
have
sections
and
we
can
have
a
sentence
that
explains
them,
but
often
they're
explanatory
sentences
have
to
do
more
with
the
projects
in
that
space
that
they
have,
which
makes
sense
for
the
cncf,
given
the
size,
the
number
of
projects
they
have,
but
I
think
for
less
so
for
the
cdf,
because
we
have
another
section
which
lists
out
all
the
projects
and
we
can
go
over
that
as
well.
A
So
it's
quite
a
nice
format
and-
and
it's
also
the
other
advantage-
is
that
it
will
be
one
that
is
familiar
to
people
because
of
you
know
likely.
People
have
seen
that
before
not
everyone,
but
a
bit
often.
A
But
it
is
a
good
point.
We
can
shake
the
tracks,
so
here
are
a
few
suggested
areas,
and
this
is
a
good
list
to
add
to
and
edit
tonight,
if
possible,
or
just
this
meeting
we
have
a
101
so
again
surfacing
that
idea
of
having
essentially
a
beginner
track.
But
you
know
we
just
making
it
very
clear.
We
want
talks
that
are
addressing
beginner
space
and
in
sort
of
introducing
topics
welcoming
people
into
this
ecosystem
and
and
all
the
knowledge
they're
in,
and
I
think
they're
always
well
received.
A
So
that's
great
leadership
track
or
tag
community
and
culture.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
reflected
in
the
tracks.
We
were
considering
before
cloud
native
cd,
get
ops,
progressive
delivery,
best
practices,
mlaps
observability,
laura
you're
back
I'll.
Let
you
complete
your
thought
from
before.
E
Oh
no,
I
was
just
agreeing
with
what
victor
said
like
to
go
kind
of
with
this,
which
is
very
high
level
and
then
make
sure
that
they
can
tag
things.
And
then,
when
we
get
all
the
submissions,
we
can
kind
of
shape
the
content
and
shape
the
conference
based
on
what
we
have.
So
it's
not
so
typical
and
boring.
It's
just
a
little
bit
different
based
on
what
was
submitted.
A
Yes,
yes,
I
think
that
that's
great
to
pick.
B
A
G
Hi,
yes,
I
am
on
the
call
I'm
just
with
the
camera
yeah
I
put
performance
and
I
put
some
I
put
basically
strategy,
but
I
think
there
are
things
like
the
leadership
part
and
best
practices
it
could
be
like
I.
I
think
it
would
fit
well
depending
on
the
submission.
So
it
sounds.
That's
it's
covert.
Thanks.
H
Now
it
looks
like
we
need
to,
for
example,
from
my
view:
leadership,
community
culture,
developer,
experience,
productivity,
like
bundle,
and
then
you
have
detox
envelopes,
but
it's
something
more.
On
the
operational
side,
security
policy
and
governance
comes
like
another
thing,
so
you
drive
people
into
more
specific.
G
B
B
C
D
Be
this
one,
it
could
be
this
one
yeah!
Well,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
say
with
that
long
list
of
items.
Yes,
you
could
have
it
set
up
so
that
people
could
click
more
than
one
when
they're
submitting,
but
eventually
they're
going
to
have
to
be
put
to
form
the
schedule
you're
going
to
have
to
have
people
put
into
one
over
another
like
one's
going
to
have
to
be
at
a
higher
level.
B
In
that
case,
I
suggest
we
simplify
our
list,
because
there
are
quite
a
few
items
that
I
would
be.
I
could
imagine
the
same
talk
being
in
multiple
simply
because
it's
maybe
make
it
higher
level
what
we
have.
A
But
another
way
to
handle
that
is
kind
of
kick
that
can
down
the
road.
Actually,
because
I
say
final
tracks
for
the
conference
will
be
based
on
accepted
submissions.
So
basically.
H
A
Saying
these
are
the
areas
we're
interested
in
submit
your
talk,
you
can
click
either
one
or
two,
depending
on
how
we
want
to
set
up
that
form
and
jennifer
crowley
was
the
individual.
Who
can
tell
us
more
about
that,
but
and
then,
depending
on
the
talks
that
we
like-
and
we
definitely
want
in
the
conference
we
can
choose,
we
can.
We
can
then
form
our
tracks,
which
gives
us
a
little
more
work
later
down
the
line,
but
I
not
not
too
much.
Actually.
I.
J
It
can
be
multiple
choice.
If
it's
multiple,
that
kind
of
solves
both
pieces,
it
gets
allows
to
put
into
multiple
tracks,
but
then,
like
cara
just
mentioned,
is
that
it
does
say
we
will
change
the
tracks
depending
on
what
gets
selected.
So
it
allows
for
people
to
say
hey.
I
think
it
fits
in
this
these
three
and
we
say
well
no
we're
just
in
one,
but
it
gives
us
that
flexibility
but
lets
them
kind
of
have
that
focus
of
where
they
feel
it
is,
and
then
we
can
go
from
there.
I
Right
I
mean
that
helps
us
with
tagging
too,
potentially
right
later,
so
I
think
we
should
keep
it
this
way
and
then
let
them
choose
as
many
as
they
think
it
fits,
and
then
we
can.
You
know
because
it
does
help
us
with
tagging,
and
if
we
have
enough
of
a
groupings
of
any
of
these,
we
can
use
them
for
tags.
The
one
thing
that
I
was
looking
down
on
the
additional
track
proposals
and
roxanne
had
put
in
analytics
monitoring,
traceability
and
diagnostics.
I
feel
like
we
need
something
around
that.
A
So
people
I've
spoken
with
like
say
in
the
tracing
or
the
event
space
did
did
mention
that
they
would
put
observability
and
and
analytics,
maybe
together.
So
we
could
do
that
or
if
you
have
another.
I
Way,
if
you
want
to
formulate
that
yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
fine
there
if
it's
spelled
out,
I'm
not
100
sure
that
people
would
directly
put
it
there.
I
don't,
I
don't
know
if
everyone
has
always
has
the
same
interpretation
of
everything,
so
I
think
just
spelling
it
out
to
include
those
pieces
would
probably
work.
Others
might
have
better
opinions.
I
I
had
an
action
item
from
the
last
meeting
for
what
it's
worth
to
propose
descriptors
of
levels.
If
you
scroll
down
a
little
bit,
this
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
I
just
thought
I'd
mention
that
I
did
do
it
oh
too,
far
too
far
right
there.
So
I
said
potential
descriptors
of
levels
like
we
had
talked
about
having
you
know
different
tracks,
so
I
just
put
these
here
for
what
it's
worth.
They
could
be
tags
or
things
we
use
and
people
can
bash
at
my
sort
of
descriptors.
I
I
like
that
more
than
beginner
it
felt
more
welcoming-
and
I
didn't
know
if
we
needed
advanced
stand
expert,
but
it
kind
of
felt
like
we
needed
all
if
we
had
all
of
these
because
they
weren't
anyway.
So
this
is
what
I
came
up
with.
So
I'm
sure
they
can
be
improved,
but
I
just
wanted
to
call
them
out
because
they
could
be
used
as
as
options
on
the
form
of
submission
of
where
what
they're
relevant
for.
B
Yes,
I
like
it,
but
I
this
might
be
me
only
and
doesn't
apply
to
other
people,
but
to
me
more
than
three
it
just
confuses
me.
It
confuses
the
hell
out
of
me,
I'm
never
sure
intermediate
or
advanced
or
expert.
I
would
really
limit
it
to
let's
say
three:
easy:
medium
heart,
foundational,
advanced
expert
ninja,
whatever.
B
Exactly
otherwise,
it's
too
many
choices,
at
least
I
I
honestly
don't
know
what
to
think
most
of
it.
What
about
what
about.
J
So
because
they're
and
that
again
gives
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
but
still
allows
us
to,
especially
if
we
get
10
people
that
say
that
hey
general,
then
we
you
know
that
we
could
see.
That
could
be
a
more
broad
top
topic
set.
That's
just
my.
D
So
normally
on
the
cfp,
we
have-
and
I
do
like
foundational-
that's
nice,
foundational
intermediate
advanced
and
then
general,
and
they
have
to
pick
one
of
those.
So
you're
saying
you
want
them
to
be
able
to
select
two.
E
No,
it's
fine!
I
just
and
I've
never
submitted
to
kubecon
before
so
I
didn't
know
the
way
that
it
was
done,
but
it
just
seems
like
to
me
that
you
know
I
was
on
a
red
eye
last
night.
So,
let's
just
I
think
you
guys
are
right.
H
I
I
I
debated,
I
included
it
for
completeness.
I
was
like
I
kind
of
like
the
expert,
because
so
I
overthink
everything
just
so
you
know,
but
I
was
thinking
well,
maybe
there's
like
kind
of
the
future
trends
or
things
like
that,
and
it
could
be
like
you
really
needed
to
understand
that
and
that
could
be.
You
know
ninjas,
maybe
a
better
word,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
need
it.
It's
probably
overkill
to
have
to
have
that
plus
advanced.
I
almost
didn't
include
it
at
all,
but
I
I
opted
to
so.
C
I
A
There
you
go,
that
could
be
the
differentiator.
You
want
to
pay
us
here.
You
go
bonus
round,
speaking
of
of
which
I
discussed
jennifer's
very
good
idea
of
doing
pre-conference,
sort
of
open
office
sessions
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
could
approach
it,
which
would
be
might
work
really
well
for
us
is
doing
the
sessions
actually
as
podcasts.
So
we
would
have
an
expert
in
one
area
come
on,
and
then
we
would
do
that
social
media
call
out
and
call
out
to
our
ecosystem
of
what
questions.
A
B
I
I
I
shared
some
things
with
jackie
and
tracy
about
the
podcast
I
used
to
run
and
like
some
topics
that
kind
of
seemed
to
fit
in
that
area.
It
was
I
created
kodish
over
on
the
roku
side,
and
we
had
things
like.
I
was
there
and
it
was
like
stories
of
you
know,
outages
or
issues
in
production
and
people
would
come
and
talk
about
them,
and
it
was.
It
was
really
really
well
received.
I
So
something
like
that
could
be
not
necessarily
the
same
thing,
but
something
like
real
stories,
because
that's
what
people
want
to
hear.
It's
really
good
good.
The
other
thing
leading
up
to
this
is
there's
going
to
be
a
panel
here.
I
think
you've
been
updated
on
this,
but
tracy's
going
to
be
on
it.
I
have
the
zone
and
a
few
other
companies
and
kelsey
hightower's,
going
to
moderate
it
with
a
a
session
on
on
cd
trends,
but
ask
answering
people's
questions,
and
this,
I
think,
is
the
first.
I
It's
like
a
really
good,
first
step,
where
we'll
ask
for
people's
questions,
and
then
that
would
be
the
first
event
and
then
they
can
keep
asking
for
questions
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
awesome
great
and
when
is
that
scheduled
to
be
tracy?
It's
like
the
20th.
I
forgot.
I
think
the
26th
was
that
what
I
put
it
for.
H
C
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
I
I
don't
think
I've
liked
that
to
you,
but
jennifer
described
it
perfectly
and
yeah
that
kind
of
yeah,
continuous
learning,
theming
we'll
start
test
that
out
and
start
to
pull
it
through
things.
F
A
So
super
progress:
we
have
our
levels,
we
have
a
sense
of
a
one
program
to
do
in
the
run-up
and
we
have
our
areas
of
focus.
The
last
thing
that
would
be
great
if
we
were
brainstorming,
less
immediate,
doesn't
need
to
get
done
this
week,
but
it's
nice.
If
we
start
thinking
forward
to
this
is
who
what
kind
of
keynotes
we
want.
What
kind
of
keynote
speakers.
A
I
I
have
some
just
ideas.
I
went
with
the
obvious,
like
amazing
hits
and
nicole
forrestman.
A
I
always
know
her
and
kristy
wilson,
emily
freeman,
you
know,
and
then
I
put
down
some
names
and
and
tracy
suggested
and
carrie,
which
is
a
great
suggestion,
but
you
all
are
more
than
welcome
to
throw
more
names
down
and
we
can
discuss
them
more
also,
it
might
be
fun
to
go
really
a
bit
broader,
and
I
know
you
discussed
this
a
bit
in
the
last
meeting,
but
sort
of
really
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
box,
so
kind
of
the
space
space
works.
A
Well,
that
always
goes
over
really
well,
but
other
sort
of
things
like
that
and
I
think
the
ann
carey
suggestion
pulls
it
in
that
direction
as
well,
because
she's
been
doing
a
lot
of
great
talks
and
keynotes
on
environmental
impact
of
tech,
and
so
it's
kind
of
nice.
If
we
bring
in
more
sort
of
wider
issues
into
the
keynotes.
I
I
think
people
really
want
that.
I've
also
seen
some
really
really
good
keynote
topics
on
the
kind
of
mental
health
related
issues
like
I've
seen
simone
biles
doing
several
of
them.
I've
seen
trevor
noah
doing
several
of
them.
I'm
not
saying
we
have
to
get
one
of
them,
but
I've
been
there's
been
some
really
really
good
conversations
that
have
come
out
of
those,
and,
I
think
always
and
honestly,
from
a
personal
belief
perspective.
I
I
would
love
to
do
something
about
women's
rights
since
we're
going
to
be
in
texas,
yeah
just
saying
so
something
that
ties
that
in
but
without
it
being
like.
You
know,
offensively.
A
Something
along
the
jennifer
regan's
article
on
diversity,
in
open
source
and
in
tech
in
general,
something
like
that
might
be
very
good.
Oh,
we
could
have
a
speaker
who
is
running
one
of
these
sort
of
outreach
programs
either.
You
know
literally
an
outreach
program
like
outreachy
or
black
girls
code,
or
you
know
women
who
code
something
like
that.
That
could
be
really
great
as
well.
A
It
would
be
so
fun
to
have
a
speaker
as
well
who
had
gone
through
these
sort
of
programs
sort
of
a
non-traditional
path,
as
it
was
a
non-traditional
person.
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
like
yeah,
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
their
experience,
how
much
it
helped
them
that
would
be
lovely.
Actually,
that
would
be
great
too.
So
if
you
know
anyone
who
fits
that
category,
there
are
a
number
I
can
think
I'm
off
top
of
my
head.
A
I
We
could
also,
if
we,
if
someone
if
we've
had
people
in
that
category,
that
weren't
interested
in
keynoting,
maybe
we
could
do
a
panel
and
get
you
know
some
diverse
opinions
on
it.
That
could
be
a
good
thing
as
well.
I
C
Yeah,
I
think
the
open
javascript
program
committee
does
some
of
that
kind
of
outreach,
so
maybe
we'll
take
those
names
to
them
and
throw
it
in
their
pot
and
see
if
they
can
rustle
up
some
contacts.
A
But
it's
interesting
there
are.
There
have
been
a
number
of
just
looking
on
twitter
tech,
twitter.
There
have
been
a
number
of
really
very
impressive
individuals
in
tech
who
have,
for
whatever
reason,
we're
taking
some
sabbatical
time
off
during
the
spandemic,
and
I
think
you
know
maybe
they
could
speak
to
their
own
experience
a
little
bit.
I
J
Yeah,
I
I
I
this
one
just
came
to
mind.
I
think
cara
was
mentioning
the
like
black
girls
who
code
black
black
tech
like
so
paris
athena
started
up.
I
think
I
think
that's,
I
think
that's
what
their
name
is
started
up
the
black
tech
pipeline
and
it's
become
a
huge
community
and
they
are
very
active
in
that
community
and
I
believe
they've
done
a
bunch
of
speaking
as
well.
J
We
follow
each
other,
but
I've
never
spoken
with
them,
so
I
mean,
but
I
can
certainly
reach
out,
or
I
know
some
people
that
I
think
know
them
so,
but
that
could
be.
That
could
be
someone
as
well.
Just
it
came
to
mind
now,
as
I
was
thinking
about
what
you
had
said
a
few
minutes
ago,
kara.
C
Jennifer
s
yeah.
G
G
H
H
H
We
have
the
greek
one
is
very
specific
on
cryptocurrencies
and
how
deploying
infrastructure
and
stuff
like
that
and
there's
another
one
that
it's
more
on
on
a
broader
site,
I'll
find
I'll
share
the
names
I'll
find
the
those
guys.
E
So
I
was
looking
at
a
conference
that
I
used
to
work.
It
was
an
oracle
conference,
but
they
had
this
comedian.
His
name
is
don
mcmillan
and
he
he
has.
He
graduated
from
stanford
with
a
masters
in
electrical
engineering
and
he's
funny
like
because
he
relates
everything
back
to
tech
topics
you
know
like
so
he
just
needs
like
I
don't
know,
we
thought
he
was
hilarious
and
he
might
be
someone.
E
I
don't
know
how
much
he
cost,
but
it
was
definitely
like
a
fun
way
to
kind
of
start
the
day
you
know
with
a
bowl
of
laughs,.
A
Agree
with
that,
I
think
I
think
it
would
be
really
fun
if
we
could
have
a
good
comedian
who
is
relevant
to
the
space
too.
That's
kind
of
excellent,
if
you
know
his
name,
that
would
be
great.
E
I'll
put
the
link
in
the
slack
or
in
the
chat.
I
Well,
I
think,
having
we,
you
know,
had
someone
who
took
a
sabbatical,
but
also
having
someone
who
kind
of
broke
the
traditional
norms
and
as
a
male,
we
decided
to
stay
home
to
be
a
father.
Well,
you
know
the
life
is
worth
looking
at.
Something
then.
D
A
The
greatest
guy
too,
he
was
a
mentor
of
mine
way
back
in
the
day
and
he's
lovely
he's
having
his
third
child
and
he
just
tweeted,
I'm
so
excited
my
company
introduced
a
you
know,
fraternity
leave
and
I
thought
that's
nice
of
them.
I
don't
think
it
will
be
for
me,
because
I
already
have
two
and
now
he's
having
a
third
and
he's
like
I'm
so
excited.
G
I
I
A
A
Hall,
I
I
would
love
that
I
know
I
was
thinking
we
should
get
someone
to
talk
about
emma
lops
and
and
ethics
around,
because
there's
a
lot
that
can
be
done
with
data
and
and
in
your
data
pipelines
and
sort
of
improving
some
of
that.
So
I
I
do
think
it's
a
good
way
to
bring
in
that
ethical
component
and
address
it.
I
But
I
I
had
I
interviewed
somebody
or
I
had
somebody
interviewed
for
the
coders
podcast
all
about
ai
and
ethics,
so
they
might.
If
we
want
to
go
that
direction,
I
can
look
them
up
and
see
it
and
send
you
the
link
and
see
if
you
think
it's
a
fit.
Okay,.
C
A
That
whole
question
around
like
mlaps
is
such
a
you
know
it's
such
an
open
space.
In
many
ways,
I
think
people
are
really
trying
to
formulate
best
practices
and
there's
various
levels
of
implementation
in
the
wild,
and
you
know
people
who
are
doing
it
really
well,
as
is
a
boston
dynamic,
so
they
probably
are
certainly
very
good
at
their
pr
very
exciting
company.
So
I
I
I
would
be
all
for
it
if
they
have
a
good
talk
in
that
space.
A
I
I
just
put
the
I
did:
a
two-part
one
was
more
on
the
technical
side,
but
this
was
the
ethical
side,
so
may
or
may
not
make
sense,
but
it's
their
view.
Okay,
that
seems
like
he'd,
be
good.
I'm
happy
to
reach
out
okay.
A
And
other
other
environment
talks
or
other
you
know
anything:
medical
space,
robotics
all
the
fun
things.
C
Vaccine
anyone
who's
proper
talk
on
the
vaccine
development
and
accelerating
that.
I
think
that
could
be
a
nice
tie-in
with
how
we're
all
looking
to
just
get
faster
at
what
we
do.
B
It
depends
depends
whether
we
can
budget
for
security
right.
I
One
one
thought
which
I
don't
exactly
know
how
it
would
play
out,
but
one
of
the
big
things
that's
come
out
of
some
of
the
reports
lately
is,
and
it's
something
I
believe
in
a
lot
is
like
how
critical
documentation
is.
I
wonder
if
there's
something
we
could
talk
about
related
to
documentation
in
an
interesting
way.
I
A
It
has
to
be
kind
of
fun.
Somehow
I
mean
this
is
maybe
not
fun,
but
certainly
in
terms
of
you
could
have
like
you
know,
policy
in
your
pipelines
for
document
checking
documentation,
I
mean
it.
It
might
be
a
little
bit
of
a
fuzzy
check,
but
you
know
you
can
put
things
so
that
that
could
that's
an
easy
thing
to
tie
in
and
saying,
like
your
best
practices
could
be
part
of
that.
Have
your
documentation
and
having
that
checked
in
your
pipeline.
A
So
definitely
that's
not
the
most
fun
fun
comment,
but
I
think,
but.
I
H
I
was
thinking
on
you
know
that
spot
that
someone
is
talking
and
how
people
connect
on
zoom
and
hello,
hello
and
people
is
coming,
and
suddenly
you
hear
the
dog
barking.
But
it's
a
funny
speech.
I
was
thinking
something
similar
from
a
dog's
perspective,
not
that
you're
updating
things
and
someone
makes
a
pull
request
and
it
automatically
updates
and
you're
mixing
and
messing
things.
I
It
could
be
a
good
one.
Have
you
seen
the
when
talking
about
the
importance
of
good
documentation
where
someone's
trying
to
make
a
peanut
butter
and
jelly
sandwich
following
the
instructions
it's
kind
of
the
same
concept
you're
talking
about,
but
they
you
know
they
end
up
with
like
a
peanut
butter,
jelly
sandwich
being
totally
not
because
it
wasn't
described.
Well,
you
think
it
is,
but
it's
not,
but
there
could
be
something
to
play
with
what
you
were
just
saying,
with
kind
of
that
topic
to
make
it
fun.
J
Monktoberfest
a
couple
years
ago
that
was
so
in
it,
I
think
they
actually,
I
forget
who
gave
it,
but
they
I
think
they
gave
it
to
other
conferences
too,
but
of
like
how
to
fold
a
fitted
sheet,
and
that
was
the
whole
talk
and
it
was
it
was.
It
was
great,
it
was
hilarious,
but
it
was
very,
very
deep
as
well
like
it.
It
just
was
really
interesting,
so
yeah
those
those
types
of
talks
are
always
great.
E
So
completely
like
out
of
left
field,
but
you
said
that,
and
it
reminded
me
I
used
to
I
got
to
work
with
the
guy,
the
ventriloquist
jay
johnson.
He
is
best
known
for
being
on
the
70s
tv
show
soap
where
he
played
a
brother
that
had
a
ventriloquist
dummy,
but
he
thought
he
was
a
real
person.
E
Anyway,
he
does
a
broadway
show
and
he
won
a
tony
for
it
called
jay,
johnson
and
the
two,
and
only
and
within
it
he
talks
about
how
he
has
dyslexia
and
there's
this
whole,
like
you
know,
five
or
ten
minute
piece
and
you
know
he's
using
he's
either
using
his
puppet
or
his
dummy
or
a
dry
erase
board
and
he's
like
writing
backwards,
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
magic.
You
know
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
you
can
kind
of
read
what
he's
saying,
but
I
don't
know
it.
E
It's
he's
funny,
but
he's
also
very
relatable
in
that
whole
idea
of
reaching
for
the
stars
like
we
took
him
to.
We
took
him
to
like
a
boys
and
girls
club
and
he
gave
them
all
tennis
balls
and
had
them
create
their
first
puppet
with
a
tennis
ball
or
with
a
sock.
E
I
I
love
that
the
not
to
keep
showing
things
I've
done
before,
but
like
at
heroku
I
create
yeah
you're,
not
even
gonna,
be
able
to
see
it.
I
created
a
a
because
we
did
a
bunch
of
things.
I
I
wanted
people
to
really
understand
the
importance
of
of
of
you
know,
people
with
different
abilities,
so
we
created
something
that
you
would
use
on
a
regular
basis,
but
you
would
notice
it
by
feeling,
instead
of
so
to
start
to
learn
so
we
created,
I
created
water
bottles
with
braille,
so
this
says
heroku
in
braille
and
this
is
raised,
but
I
mean
if
we
did
something
like
and
then
we
had
a
little
card
that
went
with
it.
I
J
I
was
just
saying
I
added
julia
farioli,
who
also
gave
a
talk
at
that's
very
open
source
stuff,
but
also
gave
a
talk
at
monktoberfest,
around
disability
and
accessibility
and
diversity,
and
how
all
of
those
play
together
as
you're
developing
it
was
the
only
talk
I've
cried
at
in
like
years.
It
was
phenomenal
that
she
would
also
be
a
really
a
good
if
we
want
to
go
that
direction
of
you
know,
accessibility
and
diversity,
and
in
that
like,
I
could
not
endorse
that
talk
enough.
A
Fantastic
yeah
there's
also
I've
forgotten
his
name,
unfortunately,
but
there's
a
developer
in
the
uk,
and
I
think
he
works
at
the
ft.
Who
is
deaf
and
he
spoke
at
spiral-
the
mugs
speakers,
but
he
spoke
among
fast.
It
was
great
talk
and
he
was
just
then
talking
about
the
importance
of
thinking
about
accessibility
and
he
was
giving
examples
in
the
real
world
and
how
small
changes
in
the
real
world
for
supposedly
like
a
niche
group,
actually
benefit
everyone.
A
It
was
a
great
talk,
but
now
he
started
a
new
project,
which
is,
he
might
be
interested
in
giving
a
keynote
on
again
where
actually,
he
is
bringing
tech
words
into
sign
language,
so
he's
making
a
sign
language
for
tech,
words
and
he's
working
with.
I
think,
a
known
sign
language
body-
I
I
don't
have
the
details
on
it,
but.
I
Anything
really,
and
maybe
that
could
tie
in
the
documentation
and
it
could
be
like
a
full
kind
of
cool
thing
where
you're
there
could
be
something
cool
there.
Yeah.
A
And
do
we
have
noted
that
I
did
like
this
idea
very
much
on
anything
in
health
vaccines,
rapid
delivery.
I
think
we've
all
learned
the
importance
of
rapid
response
being
very
quickly
like
in
the
most
real
world
way
you
possibly
could
so
it
would
be-
maybe
maybe
nice
to.
A
I
actually
know
someone
who's
a
geneticist
he's
running
the
head,
the
genetics
department,
I
think
at
university
college
london.
He
said:
maybe
it's
kings.
I
think
it's
university
college,
london,
but
he
he's.
I
know
him
pretty
well
and
he's
in
the
news
all
the
time
not
giving
opinions
but
he's
giving
he
does
well.
A
He
does
statistical
analysis
on
on
genetics,
but
also
on
exactly
this
viral
transfers
and
and
how
diseases
spread
so
he's
in
the
news
a
lot
now,
but
that
might
be
someone
you
know
paying
him
and
ask
him,
and
I
don't
know
if
he
could
structure
it
well
for
us
or
well
you
you
all
tell
me
if
someone
comes
in
and
talks
about
what
they
do,
but
it's
not
devops.
I
mean
how
how
wide-ranging
do
we
support
buyers,
obviously
wouldn't
be
with
us?
Okay,
but
how
wide
ranging
do
we
really
want
to
go?
C
Long
as
it
ties
to
you
know
some
inspirational
takeaway,
I
I
think
it's
great
to
get
people
out
of
there
bubble.
Okay,
I
like
that
too.
I
Yeah
one
other
sorry,
I
keep
putting
podcasts
here,
but
it's
like
making
me
think
of
people,
but
there's
this
company
that
I
really
really
love.
I
was
able
to
sponsor
them
and
do
a
few
things
with
them.
They're
called
driven
data
and
what
they
do
is
they
are
a
they
try
to
solve
social
social
platforms.
I
Sorry
they
try
to
solve
social
problems
through
code
and
so
what
they
do
is
they
do
a
bunch
of
like
you
know,
hackathons
community
stuff,
all
sorts
of
stuff
to
solve
different
problems,
and
I
love
what
they
do.
So
that
could
be
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
completely
that
I
don't
think
I
don't
know
that
it's
the
best
choice,
but
I
found
it
fascinating
to
me
so
throwing
it
there
too.
A
Yeah
yeah
I
like
that
data
kind
in
the
uk
seems
to
be
doing
something
similar
and
they
I've
done
tack-a-thons
with
them
and
they're.
Just
such
a
good
organization
and
they're
based
in
the
u.s
as
well.
I
think
they're
in
a
number
of
places
in
the
world.
I
Driven
data,
I'm
looking
to
see
if
they're
doing
anything,
oh,
they
they're
doing
one
that
they're
doing
predicting
disease
spread.
They
have
a.
They
have
a
competition
on
that
right.
Now,
okay,
they
have
one
about
data
mining,
the
water
table.
I
They
have
a
flu
shot
predict
flu
vaccine,
so
they
could
be
interesting
in
that
area.
Next
to
it.
I
But
yeah
I
have
a
good
relationship
with
them,
because
I
work
with
them
pretty
closely
on
a
few
things.
So.
A
A
I
A
Oh,
maybe
I'll
talk
to
you
on
something
on
the
edge
robots,
maybe
a
little
bit,
but
but
beyond
that
as
well.
Can
we
think
of
anything
fun
in
that
space.
H
Okay,
well,
we
presented
because
at
oracle
we
are
running
the
developer
programs
for
red
bull
and
we
create
a
mental
reality
simulator.
So
you
play
on
xbox
and
playstation
with
the
formula
one
game
and
we
take
all
the
telemetry
of
the
game.
We
put
it
in
the
cloud
and
we
replicate
the
same
laps
in
an
augmented
reality
circuit.
So
you
see
like
a
lego
car
going
around
there.
We
are
running
now
a
second
stage.
H
That
is
how
you
apply
machine
learning
on
top
of
that
to
improve
the
laps,
so
we
call
it
roti
project
people
has
been
quite
impressed.
We
presented
that
in
our
stream
few
months
ago,
with
one
of
the
formula,
one
races
and
looks
like
people
was
like
this
is
cool.
We
can
put
people
with
oculus,
glasses
and
stuff
like
that,
and
seeing
that
you
are
playing
here
and
suddenly
you
see
the
replica
of
your
game
in
automated
reality.
A
A
I
H
Yeah
when
I
built
my
own
startup,
we
used
to
go
to
because
it
was
based
on
the
elastic
suite
of
products.
We
used
to
put
a
gaming
machine
around
street
fighter.
There's
one
version:
they
have
all
the
moves
coded
in
memory,
so
we
were
having
a
big
screen.
As
people
was
playing,
we
were
getting
statistics
of
average
of
the
forecasting
of
how
you
can
win
or
lose,
but
also
magic
tricks,
defense
and
stuff,
like
that
people
was
like
I'm
playing,
and
I'm
just
seeing
statistics
here
of.
How
can
I
win
or
lose?
H
Yeah
we
have
for
this
well
for
the
simulator.
We
can
even
do
a
demo
and
show
up
what
we've
done
and
I
will
look
if
I
can,
because
this
is
in
austin,
know
the
cd
to
see
if
I
can
ship,
because
we
were
planning
to
buy
formula
one
gaming
seats
and
I
wanted
to
have
in
different
regions.
So
I
don't
need
to
ship
from
europe
to
u.s,
because
it's
quite
expensive,
yeah,
we'll
see
if
internally
we
can.
I
can
place
one
in
our
new
headquarters
in
austin.
C
A
Okay,
that
has
been
super
productive.
We've
got
four
minutes
left
so,
but
thank
you
I
feel
like
this
is
coming
together.
Well,
we're
ready
to
basically
hand
this
and
the
keynotes
will
work
on
a
little
bit
more
in
the
year
and
start
really
trying
to
pull
in
keynote
speakers.
A
C
A
The
ones
I
hope
I
hope
you
all
saw
that
I
took
out
the
ones
and
I'm
looking
at
my
camera-
that's
fine!
I
took
out
the
ones
over
christmas
because
of
course,.
C
G
I
Rather,
change
traded
things
to
do
with
you.
K
C
A
Excellent
great,
so
we
will
see
you
all
on
the
11th
in
the
meantime,
please
have
wonderful
holidays
and
jennifer
have
an
amazing
sabbatical.
You
expect
to
hear
stories
when
you're
back
and.
H
I
To
get
it
posted
I'd
like
to
get
it
posted
so
that
we
can
start
to
promote
it
before
the
holidays.
I
I
C
So
I'm
thinking
with
roxanne
tomorrow
and
she'll,
she
can
be
pretty
quick.
So
I'll
ask
her
to
just
knock
that
together
and
we'll
go
with
the
headshots
of
people.
We
have
and
we
can
always
add
more
in
as
they
come
in.
So
how
about
we
we'll
get
that
drafted
this
week?
Send
it
to
you
and
cara.
So
you
can
see
what
that
looks
like
and
get
any
feedback
and
iterate,
and
then
we
can
start
the
promotion.
I
Yeah
we
wanted
to
promote
it,
kelsey
loved
the
idea
of
the
continuous
learning
and
really
wanted
to
tie
this
into
that,
which
I
thought
was
a
great
idea.
So
that
was
all
for
that
too,
and
I
thought
we
could
start
with
like
asking
people
for
like
what
their
questions
were,
that
they
wanted
to
hear.
And
then,
if
we
arm
kelsey
and
the
panel
with
he
said,
like
maybe
eight
questions,
then
he
can
fend
off
any
additional
ones,
but
that'll
at
least
be
a
really
good
place
to.
C
I
Be
like
the
ongoing
drum
roll,
I'm
just
I'm
just
moving
on
this.
You
guys
aren't
saying
no!
So
no!
I.
C
Think
it's
good,
I
think,
let's,
let's
toss
it
out
there,
let's
see
the
response.
I
think
this
could
be
a
nice
theme
to
keep
going
with
yeah.
So
I'll
do
that
with
roxanne
tomorrow,
and
we
should
you
should
hear
back
from
us.
I
I
will
go
push
and
see
if
I
can
get
the
zone
guys
stuff
and
then,
as
soon
as
it's
there
or
or
there's
a
preview,
I
can
share
I'll,
send
it
to
robert
to
get
his
hopefully
we'll
get
his
approval
before
the
break,
but
the
d-zone
guy,
I
think,
is
slightly
more
important
than
robert
just
to
start
with,
and
we
can
have
him
afterwards.