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From YouTube: cdCon Program Committee - Dec. 7, 2021
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B
Okay,
awesome;
okay,
just
a
quick
recap.
First
thing
to
note
for
folks
who
said
that
the
dates
here
have
changed
and
jennifer
crowley
anything
else
to
comment
on
the
specifics
of
the
date.
The
dates
does
this
look
good.
B
Okay,
so
for
folks,
just
to
be
aware
of
we'll
need
you
available,
leading
up
to
just
after
the
early
bird
submission
deadline
for
reviewing
talks
and
then,
after
the
main
cfp
closes
on
february,
18th.
B
Okay,
so
other
updates,
we
do
have
a
blog
post.
So
I
know
some
of
you
have
seen
it,
but
if
you
haven't
already
roxanne
put
together
a
post
announcing
the
program
committee,
so
yeah
thanks
again
for
joining
us,
we've
got
that
update.
I
think
it
went
out
on
twitter
and
iza
should
be
going
out
on
linkedin
as
well.
B
Again,
we've
got
the
dates
there
and
we'll
also
feature
folks
on
the
cdcon
website
when
it
goes
live
later
this
month.
So
let
us
know
if
there's
a
specific
headshot
you'd
like
to
use
instead
of
the
ones
we've
used
or
any
bios
or
things
we'll
we'll
send
those
out
for
review
and
thanks
to
those
who
did
already
retweet
and
share
that
news.
B
Okay,
so
the
main
thing
today
is
around
call
for
papers,
so
we're
working
towards
december
17th,
which
is
next
friday
as
a
target
date
for
selecting
the
the
tracks
we'll
put
in
to
the
call
for
papers.
So
this
is
the
document
cara
put
together.
Let
me
just
drop
a
link.
D
B
This
was
based
on
last
year's,
plus
the
discussion
hap
that
had
happened
at
the
first
meeting
and
then
right
at
the
bottom
folks
have
been
throwing
in
additional
suggestions.
B
So
one
thing
we'll
go
into
the
discussion
around
the
additional
ones,
but
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
say
on
the
shared
track.
B
So
last
time
we
had
a
really
good
response
about
doing,
share
tracks
with
openjs,
so
we
had
had
a
meeting
with
them
to
see
what
how
in
practice
this
would
work
and
to
just
keep
things
simple
on
the
call
for
paper
side
we're
each
going
to
maintain
our
own
call
for
paper,
so
they'll
have
their
set
of
tracks
that
they
put
forward
and
we'll
have
our
set
of
tracks
and
then,
after
all,
the
submissions
are
put
in.
That's
when
we'll
combine
talks
into
common
tracks
and
put
those
on
on
the
schedules
for
both
events.
B
So,
for
example,
I
think
they
they
really
liked
testing
in
automation.
B
So
if
we
have
some
talks
in
that
track,
we'll
select
the
the
best
ones
of
our
one
and
combine
it
with
talks
from
there
shared
from
their
call
for
papers.
Similar
thing
for
security
and
then
those
tracks
will
be
available
on
both
open.js
conference
and
cdcon.
So
does
that
make
sense?
B
Am
I
explaining
that
well,
but
I
think
it's
a
long-winded
way
of
saying
we're
not
going
to
try
and
have
this
joint
call
for
proposal
and
have
this
committee
work
with
their
committee
at
the
same
time,
because
it's
just
too
many
too
much
coordination
needed.
B
Okay,
so
from
there
let's
go
into
some
of
the
details
of
the
different
tracks
and
do
we
have
okay,
we
had
a
suggestion
from
roxanne.
It's
not
on.
The
call
is
jennifer
hooper
here
I
am
yes,
oh
okay,
jennifer
yeah!
Do
you
want
to?
We
can
start
with
that
idea
you
put
through-
and
I
seen
jeremy
has
some
comments.
So
let's
use
that
as
a
starting
point
for
discussion.
E
Yeah,
so
the
reason
this
really
stuck
out
to
me
is
well,
it's
well
there's
kind
of
multiple
reasons,
but
we're
seeing
in
a
lot
of
the
reports
and
things
that
come
out
that
there's
just
a
lot
of
skill
set
gaps
and
things
that
people
really
need
to
know.
Secondly,
just
understanding
what
it
really
means
to
you
know
what
all
the
tools
are,
what
the
whole
landscape
is
all
of
those
things,
sometimes
a
lot
of
people.
E
You
know
it's
hard
to
kind
of
get
yourself
established
in
this
and
trying
to
hire
a
dev
advocate,
for
example,
and
it's
definitely
hard
to
find
people
with
all
the
right
skills
for
all
of
this.
So
all
of
those
things
together
with
looking
at
like
kubecon
attendees
being
you
know,
really
heavily
novices
getting
more
and
more
participation
from
people
overseas,
getting
people
who
really
want
to
focus
on
continuing
to
evolve
their
skills
because
things
change
almost
on
a
daily
basis.
E
It
just
felt
like
we
could
have
a
really
great.
You
know
kind
of
continuous
learning
track
that
could
touch
in
different
areas
as
they
seeing
something
necessary
to
be
unique
there,
but
it
would
also
give
us
a
really
good
way
of
reaching
out
to
people
in
advance
and
saying
you
know
and
trying
to
attract
them
to
the
show
to
say:
hey,
we're
going
to
have
some
tracks
that
are
focused
that
are
focused
on
a
b
c.
E
What
are
the
questions
that
you
have,
and
maybe
this
is
a
good
area
that
you
know,
someone
from
the
cdf
is
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
main
areas
that
get
rolled
up
into
some
of
the
most
common
pain
points
or
challenges
or
things
you
need
to
know.
If
you
are
a
beginner,
a
novice,
you
know
an
expert
or
whatever
the
case
is
so
anyways.
That's
my
spiel.
F
I
think
it's
good
to
to
have
a
place
for
for
people
to
have
the
opportunity
if
they
are
not
super
well
versed
in
this
area,
to
have
a
chance
to
be
on
board
it.
So
it's
inclusive
it's.
I
think
it's
good
to
have
that
yeah
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
like
a
specific
name
of
a
track,
but
somewhere
that
this
will
be
included
would
be
good.
E
Yeah
I
was
playing
with
the
idea
of
continuous
learning.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
that's
kind
of
dumb,
but
you
know
I
mean
it
just
having
something.
G
So
my
question
is:
do
we
want
this
as
a
tracker?
Would
it
be
better
to
do
like
one
of
those
day,
zero
type
deals
where
the
whole
day
is
focused
on
continuous
learning,
where
you
get
some
of
your
rock
stars
that
have
been
in
this
to
pair.
You
know
with
this
type
of
material.
If
we
wanted-
or
you
know,
have
people
submit
for
day
one
and
then
intersperse,
like
you
know,
maybe
panels
with
rock
stars
to
keep
it
like,
engaging
and
and
fun.
G
So
you
can
actually
talk
to
your
mentor
via
whatever
you
know,
zoom
or
whatever,
in
between
sessions,
where
there's
like
again
that
whole
idea
of
like
a
hallway
track,
so
keeping
with
the
theme
of
continuous
learning
having
people
submit
for
like
a
day,
zero
event
and
then
also
pairing
it
with
some
in
between
rockstar
sessions,
where
they,
maybe
they
give
10
minutes
on
their
lessons,
learned
and
like
why
this
is
important
to
always
continuously
keep
yourself
fresh.
Your
skills,
fresh.
E
Yeah,
it
could
be
like
a
whole
today.
I
learn
thing
like
a
whole
thing
that
goes
through
everything
and
I
really
like
the
day
zero,
because
then,
if
someone
really
wanted
to
get
a
fast
track
on
learning,
something
like
even
with
the
events
that
you
do,
it
could
be
a
reference
to.
You
know:
hey
if
you're
not
familiar
with
this
check
out
the
video
for
the
replay,
because
those
would
be
available,
wouldn't
they
on
the
day.
E
So
you
could
even
point
to
that
as
part
of
the
you
know,
as
part
of
the
event
to
say,
hey
if
you're
not
familiar
with
this
term,
you
might
want
to
refer
to
these
things
in
advance.
D
H
Can
I
I'm
just
gonna
say
like
so
the
question,
so
it
begs
the
question
if
we
do
a
day
zero
that
changes
somewhat
the
dynamics
of
the
conference
like
the
days
set
aside
the
days
that
have
been
mentioned
already
the
day
set
aside
rental
of
the
venue
like
there's
some
there's
some
aspects
there
that
I
think.
Well,
I
like
the
idea
of
hey
here's,
the
like
learning
track
or
that
kind
of
thing
to
kick-start
you
into
the
conference.
I
Yeah
continuing
on
those
thoughts,
that's
what
I
was
thinking
as
well
to
begin
with.
If
you
have
day
zero,
then
it
shouldn't
be
only
for
beginners,
because
that
means
that
we
might
exclude
80
percent
of
the
people
right
or
whatever
the
number
percentage
is,
and
if
it
is
not
day,
zero,
then
kind
of
having
beginner's
truck
would
somehow
conflict
with
other
trucks,
because
what
says
that
the
talk
about
performance
or
whatever
the
other
tracks
are,
is
not
a
beginner
talk
as
well
right.
I
It
would
make
more
sense
to
kind
of
label
talks.
Okay,
you
have
trucks
like
performance
this
and
this
opa,
whatever
the
trucks
are,
and
then
it
can
be
a
label
on
them
beginner
intermediary
card,
and
we
can
organize
it
in
a
way
that
somebody
can
follow
the
talks,
all
that
are
only
for
the
beginners,
for
example,
right
and
then
all
only
for
not
beginners,
but
if
it's
only
if
there
is
a
full
truck
beginner,
then
that
would
definitely
be
conflicting
with
with
other
trucks.
G
Your
point
on
I'm
sorry
jennifer
with
labeling
like
what
what
level
the
talk
is,
is
it
beginner,
intermediate
or
advanced?
But
I
think
what
I
the
feedback
that
I
heard
from
kubecon
was
that
the
day
zero
events
were
half
in
person,
half
virtual
and
people
were
like.
I
would
have
just
stayed
home
and
done
it
virtually
instead
of
flying
in
a
day
earlier.
G
So
what
if
we
think
about
this
in
terms
of
just
a
virtual
day
right
so
like
people
that
are
on
site,
can
do
what
they
need
to
do,
which
is
set
up.
Their
booths
do
whatever,
and
then
you
know
set
their
schedules
based
on
this,
where
it's
not
to
jeremy's
point
conflicting
with
extra
space
needs
costs
stuff
like
that,
and
then
continuing
to
have
the
beginner
intermediate
and
advanced
labels
on
sessions,
so
that
people
can
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
what
what
each
track
looks
like
and
maybe
that's
what
it
is
right.
G
Maybe
the
day
is
just
a
an
intro
to
each
kind
of
track,
and
then
you
have
the
the
full
agenda
for
the
rest
of
the
week.
B
Just
the
the
logistics
so
for
for
day
zero.
I
think
we're
we're
a
bit
limited
on
space
on
the
monday
and
on
the
the
virtual
side,
I
think
we
have
we're
still
investigating
our
options,
but
we're
staying.
B
One
thing
that
seems
clear
is:
we
are
going
to
stay
away
from
virtual
speakers
for
the
event
just
because
it's
really
hard
to
manage
and
some
of
the
feedback
for
the
in-person
attendees
is
they
don't
want
to
sit
in
a
room
and
watch
a
pre-recorded
presentation?
B
That
being
said,
I
do
that
wait,
one
one
more
thing:
we
do
label
that
the
tracks
in
in
general,
so
each
talk
is
qualified
with
the
beginner
intermediate
and
advanced,
so
we
can
keep
doing
that.
But
what
I'm
hearing
is
it
does
sound
like
there's
a
need,
like
the
beginner
content,
isn't
always
beginner
content.
It's
not
a
clearly
kind
of
101
type
session.
So
maybe
there
is
a
need
for
that.
B
Clearly,
positioned
set
of
talks
which
may
or
may
not
be
attractive.
I
don't
want
to
independently
go
ahead.
Why
don't
we
go
jennifer,
then
victor,
okay,.
E
One
idea
I
have-
and
this
is
more
work,
but
I
don't
think
it's
a
whole
lot
more
work.
Is
you
know,
kind
of
taking
the
idea
of
that
matchmaking
with
a
rockstar
or
something
like
that?
What
if
we
created
some
video
content
or
something
to
watch,
and
we
had
like
a
kind
of
an
office
hoursy,
you
know
kind
of
hey
meet
up
with
your.
E
You
know,
we'll
have
some
open
hours
for
the
you
know,
maybe
like
every
second
thursday
before
leading
up
to
the
event
or
something
would
be,
you
know,
hey,
you
could
come
and
talk
about
this
subject,
here's
some
materials,
you
can
come
talk
and
they
could
get,
they
could
be
intermixed,
they
could
progressively
get
more.
You
know,
so
it
could
be
a
great
way
to
market
the
event.
B
Yeah
doing
stuff
ahead
of
the
event
might
be
a
nice
way
to
tackle
this
victim.
F
Yes,
like
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
for
example,
what
would
you
like
to
know
like?
How
would
this
question?
How
would
this
be
because
it
sounds
to
me
like
I
will
present
to
people
who,
like
need
like
to
be
more
situated
on
on
how
the
landscape
is
but
like?
How
do
we
find
out
what
people
would
like
to
know
like
what
is
the
plan
or
what
was
that.
E
My
idea
there
was
that
we
could,
you
know,
put
out
some
polls.
We
could
ask
people
through
social.
We
could
put
it
in
the
newsletters
and
ask
people
for
feedback.
We
could
there's
a
number
of
different
ways.
We
can
engage
through
the
cdf
channels
and
then
we
all
could
amplify
through
our
channels
or
get
other
people
to
as
well.
E
The
question
is
just
what
makes
the
most
sense
in
terms
of
what
we
can
manage,
but
the
more
that
I
think
we
can
get
people
engaged
and
create
content
that
they
actually
want
to
hear
about
the
more
beneficial
the
conference
will
be
and
the
more
useful
the
content
that
we
create
and
provide
and
enable
to
be
presented
is
going
to
be,
for
you
know
the
audience,
so
it's
kind
of
like
crowdsourcing
some
of
the
content
and
if
we
are
doing
something
in
advance,
if
we
choose
to
do
that,
it
could
be
really
easy
to
do
it
through
that,
like
it's
just
kind
of
a
you
know,
we
could
collect
hey,
we're
doing
it
on
this
subject
today,
because
you
all
voted
on
this
next
week.
E
F
E
E
F
Another
thought
one
last
thought
on
that
is
like
we.
It
could
also
potentially
be
one
theme
for
a
keynote
to
basically
like
update
people
about
how
things
are
like
I'm,
not
sure
how
big
that
this
continuous
learning
I
know
that
there,
like
could
be
like
victor
said
in
performance
in
other
tracks.
E
And
then
the
other
thing
that
it's
good
with
two
is
following
up
after
the
event
asking
people
what
they
wanted
to
learn
and
then
you
know
maybe
once
a
quarter
there's
a
a
meetup
where
we
talk
about
that
kind
of
stuff
or
something
I
mean
so
there's
lots
of
ways
that
you
can
keep
the
conversation
going
and
keep
engagement,
going
being
continuously
asked
that
question
to
keep
it
and
then
that'll
build
for
next
year
as
well
or
there's
the
year
after.
B
Okay,
any
last,
I'm
going
to
put
a
pause
on
this
discussion,
three
minutes
and
we'll
move
to
another
topic,
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
good
jeremy's
keynote
last
year.
Actually
lots
of
people
had
that
feedback.
B
He
kind
of
covered
a
lot
of
the
different
terms
in
the
space
and-
and
that
was
on
day
two
and
people
were
like.
Oh,
we
wish
this
had
been
the
keynote
on
day,
one
because
at
least
it
orients
us
for
expectations
of
what
these
different
terms
are
so
yeah
that
keynote
idea
could
be
another
nice
way
of
doing
it,
but
yeah.
I
like.
E
B
And
maybe
yeah
doing
some
of
that
ahead
of
time,
so
it's
available
so
ahead
of
the
track.
We
can
be
like
here's
some
homework.
You
can
go
watch
this
video
and
it's
your
precursor
to
this
track,
and
then
it
gives
you
pointers
to
what
the
different
sessions,
how
they
they
all
connect
together
that
could
work
or
but
yeah,
certainly
making
sure
we
have
that
content
and
folks
welcome,
would
be
awesome.
E
H
G
I
How
about
we
abandon
the
tracks
that
we
have
planned
right
now
and
just
have
beginner
intermediary
black
belt
and
whatever
we
can
just
make
tracks
that
are
the
level
of
knowledge
and
within
that
track
it
can
be
different
subjects
right
this
or
that
I
mean
that
was
extremely
successful.
In
dockercon,
dockercon
had
trucks
like
that
blackberry,
your
ninja
excellence.
You
got
to
black
belt
track
right.
I
It's
just
kind
of
doing
inverse,
so
within
the
track
you
can
have
labels
this
or
that
just
like
within
the
current
tracks.
We
have
labels.
That
is
a
level
which
we
can
just
invert
invert
it,
and
I
think
that,
because
the
same
argument
that
you
said-
and
I
agree
that
people
say
hey,
obviously
it
was
a
beginner
track.
There
is
exactly
the
same
argument.
Hey
I
wish
there
is
a
ninja
track.
B
B
Okay,
I
am
going
to
pause
it
now
on
that
profound
note
and
let's
chew
on
that
and
we'll
follow
up
with
some
things
in
the
mailing
list
and
see
what
we
can,
how
that
come
up
with
some
proposals.
B
Okay,
so
some
other
suggestions
on
topics
just
going
back
to
the
notes.
Jennifer
s,
do
you
want
to
just
highlight
the
ideas
around
performance
and
source
control
strategy.
F
Yeah
well,
this
came
from
like
talking
to
some
people
and
also
my
own
experience
with
like
things
that
still
happen
like
and
thinking
of,
like
the
meaty
content
stuff.
Like
so
yeah,
I
still
in
teams,
no
matter
which
team.
F
When
I'm
starting
a
project
we
are
like,
as
we
you
start,
it
seems
almost
impossible
to
prevent
like
build,
build
times
getting
longer
and
longer,
and
so
like
would
be
good
to
to
put
it
out
there
to
see
how
people
are
like
tackling
these
things,
like
caching
techniques
etc,
like
I
put
in
there
and
the
basically
processes
as
well
that
it's
like
that,
people
can
cannot
to
like
avoid
those
things
happening
and
like
how
how
how
the
teams
behave,
and
so
there
is
like
a
bit
of
a
leadership
and
processes
that
can
be
tooling
put
in
place.
F
There
could
be
yeah
also
like
what
people
do
backwards
when
they
had
the
could
be
case,
studies
of
like
long
abuse
and
on
the
source
control
strategy
as
well
again
like
we
start,
some
teams
start
with
the
monorepo
and
then
becomes
a
bit
of
a
hell
for
managing,
but
then
they
start
splitting
things
and
it's
like
again.
F
It's
a
story
join
a
new
team,
they're
senior
engineers
and
we
are
like
creating
different
repositories
to
like
make
things
well
componentized,
but
then
there's
a
lot
of
repetition
and
growth
in
in
creating
and
delivering
like
the
it's
very
difficult
to
make
them
all
like.
When
putting
the
pieces
together
and
testing,
it
is
quite
over
a
problem
for
managing
that
and
yeah
it
becomes
like
you
have
to
change
several
repositories.
F
At
the
same
time
like
every
time,
you
need
to
deliver
a
new
change,
so
I
have
very
common
problems
that
people
to
this
day,
like
very
senior
engineers,
have
so
I
feel
like
that.
There
could
be
a
good
conversations,
good
content
of
stories,
and
I
mean
I'm
very
interested
myself.
I,
like
case
studies
and
people
having
problems,
how
the
problems
they
have
and
how
they
they
are
dealing
with
it
in
the
situation.
So
I
thought
that
maybe
I
know
like
source
control
strategies.
F
The
name
of
a
track
I
may
say
like
might
not
be
the
best
thing,
but
I
would
like
to
include
that
somewhere
that
could
match
and
then
pass
this
message
I
mean
performance.
I
guess
could
be
a
name
of
a
track
because
it
is
very
like
it.
It
has
some,
I
guess,
brings
interest
to
the
eyes
and
then
we
could
look
and
and
put
that,
but
I
guess
source
contrast
strategy
I
put
in
there
because
there
is.
I
I
I
think,
that's
very
interesting,
but
there
is
a
tiny
problem
with
that.
I
might
be
wrong
what
I'm
going
to
say,
but
the
vast
majority
of
submissions
are
not
really
written
for
a
specific
truck,
so
majority
people
who
submit
something
they
don't
go
to
see
the
tracks
and
say:
okay,
I'm
going
to
write
a
submission
for
this
truck
looks
interesting.
I
Simply
people
already
have
their
their
abstracts
and
then
they
try
to
find
in
at
least
which
truck
it
belongs
to
so
kind
of
having
a
truck
like
version
control,
something
something
will
not
likely
going
to
increase
the
number
of
submissions
for
the
truck.
That's
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
bad
bad
idea.
I
think
it
is,
but
it's
not
going
to
increase
the
likelihood
that
we
are
going
to
have
such
talks
or
the
or
absence
of
it
is
not
going
to
decrease
it
either.
Right.
F
Right
well,
we
are,
but
we
we
are
creating
these
track
names
so
that
people
at
least
don't
submit
something.
That's
completely
no
unrelated
right.
So
it's
like
a
guidance.
I
understand.
I
agree
also
like,
as
I
said,
that
I
said
that
the
name
voice
control
strategy
might
not
be
like
the
most
is
not
gonna
like
help
much
and
that's
why.
F
But
I
put
it
there
as
like
ideas
to
put
as
a
com
part
of
the
maybe
another
track
that
could
allow
like
summer
part
of
this
con
content
here
to
be
like
saying:
how
do
people,
how
do
people
manage
code
base
grow
basically
like,
even
if
it's
just
that
you
know
it
could
be
somewhere.
B
B
We
change
them
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
final
program
based
on
the
submissions,
but
I
I
do
think
we
should
be
treating
the
the
call
for
papers
as
here's
your
guide
to
your
best
chance
of
getting
a
talk
approved
by
the
program
committee,
because
we're
telling
you
what
we're
looking
for
and
if
you're
looking
for
talks
like
this,
that
lean
towards
you
know
best
practices
around
social
source
control
strategy
or
around
performance.
I
think
we
should
find
a
way
to
indicate
that.
B
B
E
I
was
thinking
about
victor's
idea
of
you
know,
kind
of
leading
at
least
at
this
stage
with
you
know,
kind
of
a
ninja
through
beginner,
or
you
know,
whichever
way
you
say
it,
and
what?
If
we
did
something
like
that,
nothing,
the
confidence
has
to
turn
out
that
way.
E
But
what
if
we
did
it
that
way
and
then
said
hey
for
the
topics
you
know,
and
then
we
can
list
out
all
of
the
main
categories
of
topics
that
we've
kind
of
pulled
together
as
as
tracks
with
enough
detail
to
give
you
know,
people
context
for
thinking
and
then
that
will
help
us
drive
how
the
the
content
will
get
created.
But
I
I
the
more
I'm
thinking
about
it.
I
like
the
idea
of
really
promoting
thinking
about
you,
know
the
content
level,
because
I
mean
I've
submitted
these
for
people
all
the
time.
E
And
you
say
what
level
is
it
and
they
go
yeah?
I
don't
know
just
do
it
for
intermediate.
You
know
it's
not
like.
It's
really
a
thought.
It's
a
it's
a
necessity
to
check
a
box
on
a
form
and
if
we
lead
with
it
the
other
way,
and
then
we
have
all
of
those
as
kind
of
the
main
categories
of
things
that
we
want
to
keep
driving
and
in
collecting.
Then
we
get
this
great
wealth
of
content
coming
in
that
we
can
then
massage
into
what
makes
sense
for
the
actual
conference.
I
E
Yeah-
and
there
are
some
good
definitions,
like
you
know,
kind
of
the
elite.
I
hate
I
don't
like
the
term
elite
performers,
but
we
use
it
all
over
the
place,
but
I
mean
there
are
some
of
those
things
that
are
there.
I
think
where
you
get
in
the
middle
is
going
to
be
the
harder
part
right
and
exactly
where
that
is,
but
that
doesn't
feel
like
that
would
be
if
we
don't
make
it
too
structured
and
we
make
it
like
it
feels
like
it
well.
C
Surveymonkey,
it's
a
it's
part
of
their.
It's
sm
apply,
which
is
part
of
surveymonkey.
H
Yeah,
okay,
because
what
I
typically
see
with
like
session
eyes,
for
instance,
is
people
self-select?
What
their
talk
is
like?
How
taught
like?
What's
the
is
this
beginner?
Is
it
experienced?
Is
it
and
and
they
select
what
they
feel?
It
is
right
and
then
they
also
add
tags
select
from
a
list
of
tags
of
well.
C
B
Yeah,
maybe
we
could,
if
you
could
have
a
bash
at
writing.
What
that
looks
like
we
could
lead
with
that
as
a
way
of
taking
your
talk
and
a
way
of
us
choosing
them
sorry
jennifer
s,
you
wanted
to
say.
F
Something
the
the
I
was
just
reading
the
the
other
tracks
and
regarding
the
source
control
strategy
part.
I
think
that
could
be
part
of
the
leadership
track
like
it
could
fit
there,
because
there's
culture
there
is
in
the
stuff
it
decides
like
scaling
culture,
so
maybe
it
could
be
something
that
could
fit
in
there
some
some
sort
of
like
operations
process
like
developer.
This
is
like
developer
productivity
as
well,
so
we
could
maybe
fit
that
if
you
don't
find
anything
just
just
to
conclude
a
bit.
D
E
Yeah
feel
free
to
send
me
an
action
item.
I
can.
I
can
draw
something
that
people
can.
You
know
bash
on
I'm
happy
to
give
something
people
to
look
at.
B
Yeah,
if
you
could
and
then,
if
victor
you
have
any
thoughts
as
well
and
just
related
to
that,
I
I
will
say
in
there's
a
best
practices
special
interest
group
who
are
trying
to
put
together
some
material
around
best
practices
and
they've
ended
up
having
this
kind
of
conversation
a
lot
and
it
always
comes
back
to
if
we're
creating
this
dynamic
body
of
work.
That
gives
you
indicators
of
best
practices.
B
B
G
I
just
think
like
I
know
that
we're
really
trying
to
nail
these
down,
but
when,
if
we're
still
potentially
playing
with
the
idea
of
doing
like
30
second,
this
is
what
this
track
is
videos.
I
think
that's
also
something
that
you
know.
We
can
look
forward
to
to
put
a
little
bit
more
explanation
behind.
So,
if
you
think
like
like,
we
could
do
a
general
like
if
you
think
your
topic
is
doesn't
fit.
You
know
just
pick
something
and
we
will
help
you.
You
know
navigate
where
it
needs
to
go
and
stuff
like
that.
B
Let
me
show
you
what
we
have
used
in
the
past
and
see
if
this
is
good
enough.
If
you
have
any
comments,
so
typically,
we'll
have
we'll
put
them
down
as
suggested
topics
track
focus,
and
then
this
is
kind
of
the
indicator
of
just
saying
just
pick
your
best
fit
and
we'll
do
the
work
in
in
the
back
end
to
in
the
program
committee
to
sort
of
qualify.
It.
B
Oh
and
just
to
this
discussion,
interesting
discussion
in
the
chat
about
best
practices,
better
practices,
good
practices,
yeah,
and
I
think
that's
pretty
interesting.
I
think
the
the
group
we
started
using
the
word
emerging
practices.
I
think
jane
groll
had
led
us
to
use
that
one
as
a
way
of
saying.
Okay,
these
things
are
new
and
here's.
Some
of
the
the
emerging
practices
people
are
finding
effective,
but
yeah
good
note
on
that.
B
I'd
like
to
switch
a
little
to
talking
about
keynotes
or
just
getting
some
ideas
from
folks
around
what
you'd
like
to
see
for
keynotes,
either
specific
people
or
themes,
and
so
a
couple
of
things
to
say
about
keynotes.
We
will
have
one
whole
session,
which
will
be
keynotes
that
we'd
like
to
see
that
address
the
domain
of
software
delivery,
and
then
we
are
looking
for
keynote
ideas
this
year,
we'd
like
to
have
things
that
break
us
out
of
our
bubble
and
get
us
thinking
about
the
wider
world.
B
So
more
kind
of
inspirational
type
speakers
and
topics
which
can
we
can
still
connect
to
what
we're
doing.
But
it's
not
like
just
just
breaking
people
out
out
of
our
bubble,
so
it's
not
all
devops
or
software
delivery.
B
So
with
that
being
said,
would
folks
like
to
throw
out
any
and
every
names
or
ideas
or
themes
that
they
might
have
for
keynotes
at
cdcon
this
year,.
B
H
How
it
fits,
but
emily
freeman's
talk,
she's
been
giving
recently
around
devops
revolution
is
actually,
I
think,
a
really
interesting
topic
that
begs
more
and
more
conversation
around
the
software
development
life
cycle
and
in
it.
Well,
it's
not
about
continuous
delivery,
continuous
deployment,
it
is
it
it
is
at
a
core
of
what
drives
continuous
delivery.
Continuous
deployment,
like
that's
it's
at
a
core
of
that
so
it'd,
be
interesting
to
to
you
know,
have
her
as
a
speaker
around
around
that
her,
and
I
were
talking
about.
H
B
E
E
I
mean
not
calling
it
trends,
because
everything
seems
to
be
a
trend,
but
you
know
there's
so
many
things
that
are
changing
right
and
jobs
are
changing.
How
people
do
their
jobs
are
changing
even
with
the
definitions
of
things
are,
are
changing
and
something
to
really
focus
on.
E
E
B
Interesting,
I
was
going
to
say
just
building
on
on
that
team.
I
have
seen
some
speakers
who
will
talk
about
like
the
the
future
of
work,
and
you
know
how
we
think
about
productivity
and
how
it
sort
of
started
off.
Everything
is
based
on
like
factories
and
how
they
were
set
up
and
how
actually
we
need
to
evolve
it
and
how
covet
is
pushing
folks
to
do
that
with
remote
work,
and
you
know
introducing
things
like
for
four
day
work
weeks
and
things
like
that.
E
And
then
possibly
something
with
you
know,
even
the
totally
I
totally
lost
my
train
of
thought.
Sorry
it'll
come
back
to
me
in
a
second.
E
Yeah,
oh
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
is
extremely
interesting
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
we
don't
have
you
know
it's
always
one
of
the
harder
things,
but
it's
had
a
quantum.
It's
kind
of
the
roi
question
right
and
it's
kind
of
like
how
these
things
are
evolving,
but
also
how
do
you
measure
that,
like?
How
do
you
measure
productivity,
like?
How
do
you
measure
the
benefit
that
a
solution?
You
know
that
you
don't
have
to
create
from
scratch?
It's
homegrown
you
have
to
support
and
evolve
and
etc,
etc.
E
How
do
you
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
the
same
evolution
of
of
of
the
technology
and
the
terminology
in
the
industry,
but
it's
also
the
progression
of
of
the
workforce,
and
it's
kind
of
that
other
angle,
and
it's
almost
like
you
know
we're
at
this
turning
point
where
this
is
becoming.
You
know
something
people
need
to
have
versus
you
know.
Some
people
have
because
they're
at
that
point,
and
how
do
you
imagine
a
world
of
where
it
goes
next
or
something
I
don't
know
it
might
be
the
same.
I
No,
I
mean
well,
I
think
that
those
are
all
good
things.
We
still
need
to
come
up
with
the
name
because
kind
of
like
we
are
not
going
to
tell
I
don't
know
kelsey.
Can
you
speak
about
that
he's
probably
so
used
to
just
pick
a
name
right
and
that
person
is
going
to
come
up
with
something
very
interesting
if
he's
good
and
we're
going
to
be
good
ones.
So
it's
relatively
straightforward.
If
you
come
up
with
a
list
of
five
names
or
something
like
that
right.
E
I
E
E
Of
us
with
a
big
job,
but
that
would
be
awesome
to
get
kelsey
I
could
I
actually
am.
I
have
him.
He
is
moderating
a
talk
with
for
cdf
soon,
so
we
could.
We
could
see
what
he
what
his
thoughts
are,
because
this
is
the
kind
of
stuff
he
likes
to
do.
E
D
E
So
it
could
be
an
interesting
thing
right
to
get
those
two
audiences
there
and
then,
if
you
get
someone
from
like
azure
like
if
you
get
someone
from
microsoft,
google
and
aws
really
talking
about
the
future
of
this
from
the
cloud
perspective,
that
could
be
like
a
big
draw
with
some
interesting
content,
possibly.
D
F
G
No,
I
think
I'm
still
just
trying
to
think
like
in
terms
of
inspiration.
Maybe
you
know
like
is
that
something
that
we've
done
before,
where
it's
just
not
like?
I
was
just
at
all
things:
open,
jeremy.
You
were
there
and
the
keynote
was
the
nasa
guy
and
the
whole
theme
was
like
you
know,
astronauts
and
spaceships
and
stuff.
He
went
really
long,
but
it
was
still
that
whole
idea
like
they
landed
the
marv's
rover.
You
know
like
it
was
just
like
something
that
took
this.
G
Many
years
actually
happened
and
look
you
know,
and
so
there
was
technical
stuff
to
it,
but
more
so
it's
just
kind
of
like
inspiration.
Don't
ever
give
up
look
how
far
we
came,
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
something
that
would
fit
the
audience
or
if
they're
just
like.
I
don't
want
to
hear
your
happy
little
pep
talk
about.
You
know
what
my
magnet
on
the
fridge
says.
You
know
like
like
a
cat
on
the
wall.
Just
hang
in
there
like
it
will
get
better
type
stuff.
You
know
yeah.
No,
I
think.
H
No,
I
was
gonna
expand
on
that.
Just
slightly
of
that,
there's
part
of
what
made
that
a
great
talk
was
that
at
least
my
view
was
that
so
we're
at
an
open
source
conference
he's
talking
about
open
source
software.
That's
been
used
by
the
community
to
put
a
rover
on
mars,
like
there's
the
inspiration
piece,
but
there's
also
the
practical,
like
application
of
the
thing
which,
for
this
was
open
source
into
lack
of
a
better
way
of
saying
it,
the
real
world.
H
H
You
know
just
happens
to
be
using
our
platform,
but
is
using
it
to
do
nuclear
physics
and
to
do
nuclear
like
it.
It's
it's
those
types
of
things
that
I
think
are
interesting
because
it
steps
out
of
what
our
normal
thoughts
of
what?
What
does
it
look
like
to
do?
Continuous
delivery?
What
does
it
look
like
to
do?
You
know
software
development?
What
is
all
of
that?
H
It
kind
of
kind
of
tilts
on
a
head
a
little
bit
and
gives
us
some
inspiration
to
go
and
do
something
new,
so
yeah
I
mean,
I
think
it
all
all
of
this
kind
of
goes
together,
but
I
that
that's
what
really
stood
out
to
me.
I
think
you
know
lori
with
what
you
were
saying
and
and
how
I
think
that
could
really
translate
for
us.
E
One
talk
that
I
just
really
resonated
with
me
and
I
love
ben
it.
It's
helped
a
lot
of
people
kind
of
on
my
team
that
are
not
technical
understand
things
is.
I
had
edith.
The
ceo
at
launch.
Sharkly
did
a
podcast
with
rosario
webinar
conversation
with
our
former
ceo
and
palumi
ceo.
E
That
part
doesn't
matter,
but
she
really
likened
the
whole
continuous
delivery
experience
to
an
inventory
model
and
it
just
played
itself
out
so
well,
it's
like,
and
then
she
started
talking
about
the
code
and
you
know
things
go
on.
Things
are
on
the
shelves
and
they
get
stale
and
so
not
seeing
it.
So
I
mean
somebody
like
her
that
can
or
like
the
other
analogies
we've
talked
about
here.
E
B
But
yeah,
no,
I
think
all
the
suggestions
are
great.
Any
tech
conference
I've
been
to
where
someone's
come
from
nasa
or
talked
about
space
is
always
met
really
well
and
there's
one
github
satellite
us
at
where
said
that
that
lady
katie,
I
can't
remember,
call
her
name
but
when
they
discovered
the
black
holes-
and
it
was
all
collaboration
and
here's
how
we
all
work
together
on
a
global
scale
to
do
it,
yeah
that
that
was
pretty
inspiring
and
just
connected
to
the
whole
idea
of
open
source
communities.
B
Great
okay,
so
yeah
keep
the
ideas
coming
and
scribble
them
down
in
the
dark
or
just
drop
them
in
slack
specific
talks
or
themes,
and
this
isn't
a
priority
right
now
like
we.
The
program
is
the
main
thing,
but
we
will
start
soon
reaching
out
to
to
keynote
speakers
or
just
exploring
different
types
of
combinations
of
folks.
We
want
to
get
on
stage,
okay
and
let's
leave
it
there
just
looking
at
the
time.
B
Our
next
call
will
be
next
week
on
the
14th,
and
that
will
be
the
final
one
which
we're
having
in
person
ahead
of
the
17th
of
december
deadline
for
the
call
for
papers.
So
any
changes
we're
making
around
you
know
levels
and
beginners,
and
things
like
that.
We'll
need
to
have
those
in
a
good
state.
So
we
can
meet
finalize
those
and
then
get
that
to
to
jennifer
crowley
by
the
17th
with
the
view
to
the
coffer
papers
going
live
in
january
next
year.
B
So
we'll
continue
the
conversation
asynchronously
I'll
share
the
recording
as
well
for
those
who
couldn't
make
it
and
carol
will
be
back
from
thursday
to
keep
that
conversation
going
and
follow
up
with
folks
on
any
specifics
that
are
there.
Anything
else
folks
want
to
add
or
ask
before
we
go.
Where
is.