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A
B
C
I
am
fati's
on
Central
European,
Time,
right,
CET,
yeah,
yeah.
C
A
D
A
A
C
E
A
A
F
Awesome
I
mean
yeah.
There
is
a
lot
of
people.
There
are
something
like
150
referrals
taken
that
we
have
this
community,
whatever
Summit
in
Japan,
and
also
develops
Munich
happening
to
Peru.
It's
great
and
there's
actually
a
lot
of
conversations
about
Community
Building
problems
and
especially
how
the
Braille
and
the
president
of
the
modern
environment
I
mean
post
covet
financial
crisis
and
how
things
should
operate.
So
there
is
definitely
a
lot
of
takeaways
from
there
foreign.
G
G
All
right
so
yeah
welcome
everyone
to
the
CDF
Toc
meeting
today
is
December
the
6th
and,
as
usual,
feel
free
to
sign
yourself
in
in
other
ideas
in
this
list
or
other
attendees
list
on
the
notes.
G
Just
put
the
link
to
the
notes
in
the
chat
in
case
not
even
ready.
Thank
you.
G
G
F
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
share
a
few
news
yeah,
as
you
may
have
seen,
I've
been
less
available
in
the
recent
months,
so
there
are
many
reasons
for
the
personal
ones,
also
work
assignments
and
priorities.
Etc.
F
Last
week
we
had
a
conversation
with
fatih
and
Steven
chin
about
the
future
of
the
QC
and
what
was
going
to
get
by
Steven
and
faki
that
they
expect
someone
to
make
a
full-time
commitment,
including
time
and
effort
to
push
the
CDF
forward
and
push
the
technical
website
committee
forward
and
I
agree
with
this
approach
for
a
foundation
like
CDF
to
succeed.
It
definitely
needs
a
lot
of
project
management,
so
we
discussed
it
many
times
at
governor
and
meetings
at
Toc
meetings
that
we
actually
need
a
assistance
and
yeah.
F
Maybe
a
city
chair
could
be
one
of
doing
that
at
the
same
time,
I'm
not
ready
to
commit
to
that.
I
cannot
dedicate
enough
time,
as
I
said
in
August
to
all
POC
members,
my
capacity
is
limited,
I
did
it
before
the
elections
and
nobody
else
stepped
out
at
that
point.
So
I
can
King
it
with
a
goal
to
actually
do
a
transition
and
hand
over
but
yeah.
Taking
the
conversation
with
her,
we
had
I
decided
that
I
stepped
down
immediately
from
the
CDF
TLC
I
wish.
F
F
I
will
be
participating
in
the
action
items
so
that
I
do
in
the
in
the
efforts
I'm
interested
in
and,
of
course,
I
will
help
with
all
the
transition
and
the
elections
shouldn't
be
needed,
but
at
the
same
time,
yes,
for
me
effective
immediately
I
resign
from
this
role
and
again,
if
you
have
any
questions,
why
Etc
you're
welcome
to
reach
out?
You
didn't
to
me
so
I
guess
yeah.
F
This
summarizes
news
from
me
and
thanks
a
lot
Andrea
for
hosting
this
meeting
again
I
apologize
that
I
was
less
available
than
someone
who
might
have
expected
before
and
so
I
will
probably
share
details,
maybe
later
in
a
few
months,
why
it
happened.
But
for
now
these
are
the
news.
G
Thanks
so
much
for
sharing
the
news
and
well
thanks
for
all
the
service
you've
done
to
the
TOC
and
the
CDF
and,
of
course,
yeah
I'm
glad
that
you
will
stay
representing
the
Jenkins
project,
at
least
so.
F
Well,
I
will
probably
do
a
bit
more
in
advocacy,
because
yeah
I'm
super
excited
about
what
happens
with
operation.
Joining
I
will
also
be
able
to
speak
more
freely
about
my
concerns
about
the
CDF,
because
before
when
I
had
a
governing
board
membership
role,
I
was
restricted
in
some
regards
now,
since
I
will
be
just
a
Tipsy
member
I
hope
that
my
feedback
will
be
actually
more
helpful.
F
B
Just
to
add
to
what
Olex
said
Oleg.
Thank
you
very
much,
for
you
know
everything
we've
done
for
CDF
and
all
the
other
colleges
you
engaged,
and
you
know,
I
can't
State
how
much
I
appreciate
you
your
efforts
when
it
comes
to
next
steps.
Maybe
we
can
take
the
same
process
as
the
last
chair
meeting
and
we
can
create
an
issue
on
GitHub
Foundation
repo
and
share
the
links
in
to
your
email
list,
as
well
as
Toc
slack
channel.
B
So
if
any
of
the
current
TLC
members
are
available
or
interested
to,
you
know
put
up
the
account
that
you
can
can
nominations,
you
can
do
that
directly
under
the
issue.
If
you
will
see
example
there
as
well
and
then
we
can
share
the
election
timeline
directly
on
the
issue
as
well,
so
you
can
see,
but
One
Direction
or
knowledge
period
is
kicked
off
and
it
closes
and
landed
action
period
starts
and
when
it
ends.
So
please
keep
an
eye
on
the
mail
list
as
well
as
on
slack
Channel.
F
Yeah
another
thing
that
currently
there
is
ongoing
discussion
between
fatih
Stephen
and
me
what
is
actually
expected
from
the
TC
chair.
So
one
thing
that
generally
there
was
the
different
expectations
on
what
it
was
before
and
what
is
going
to
be
next
so
yeah.
My
advice
is
that
before
you
come
eat
actually
review
all
the
things
and
yeah.
There
is
a
lot
of
QC
members
that
are
happy
to
support
you.
One
step
and
go
stepping
up
reveal
this
role.
We
will
definitely
get
a
lot
of
support.
F
F
S
but
yeah
for
the
next
meetings.
They
will
basically
do
the
same
Paul,
who
is
able
to
host
the
meeting
I'm,
not
sure
when
the
next
meeting
happens
because
of
the
holiday
season,
but
if
it
happens
until
mid-January,
it's
safe
assumption
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
host
it
because
of
other
commitments.
B
Yeah,
that
is,
we
have
an
issue
on
GitHub
about
that
and
Andrea
I
didn't
put
the
comment
there.
Instead
of
having
three
cool
coaches,
maybe
having
chair
and
white
share
type
of
approach
would
make
sense
our
proposal
is
we
discussed
this
via
Michelle,
because
the
of
this
Charter
is
still
with
legal.
We
can
start
with
top
chair
election
first
and
based
on
what
we
get
from
the
legal
about
updates
to
the
Charter.
B
We
can
present
it
to
the
TOC
and
then
to
board,
and
if
everyone
is
okay,
with
the
wording
and
the
rules
and
responsibilities,
we
can
make
the
wise
chair
official
and
then
have
an
election
for
vice
chair
or
okay,
stay
with
a
chair,
but
yeah.
That
is
like
you
think
we
think
the
legal
this
week,
but
we
are
still
waiting
a
response.
D
H
G
G
Okay
and
and
then
I
guess
brings
us
to
to
what
you
were
just
mentioning
all
like
so
upcoming
TSC
meetings,
so
I
don't
know
who
entities
in
the
agenda.
If
it
was
you
all
like
or
fatty,
but
yeah
I
guess
we
need
to
confirm
whether
we're
going
to
have
this
meeting
and
other
people
is
going
to
be
able
to
attend.
B
Yeah
normally,
like
I,
think
I
added
this
topic,
not
normally
people
take
like
last
week
or
two
vacations
on
first
week
of
new
year's
vacation
of
this
is
like
Richmond
things
are
happening
or
not,
so
we
can
create
the
new
series
new
meeting
series
based
on
the
feedback
from
TLC.
So
if
we
are
keeping
December,
20th
and
January
third
meetings
or
not.
G
Okay
and
then
it
talks
one
two
marker
interest
here
on
on
the
agenda
or
the
alternatively
I
can
send
a
poll.
We
can
make
a
poll
on
slack,
we
send
an
email
to
the
distribution
list
and
see
if
people
is
able
to
attend.
G
I,
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
attend
on
January.
The
3rd
I
expect,
but
probably
be
available
on
the
other
two
dates.
H
I'm
I'm
the
same
way.
The
December
20th
would
work
for
me,
but
the
third
would
not
put
in
the
17th.
D
G
G
All
right
next,
we
are
resuming
present
or
starting
presentation
for
project
updates
from
the
different
project
hosts
of
the
CDF.
So
the
idea
is
to
get
an
update
to
the
DLC
from
the
various
project
hosted
by
the
foundation,
with
what's
going
on
with
the
project.
Any
news
this
we're,
sharing
and,
and
so
the
first
presentation
this
week
is
City
events,
so
I
prepared
a
couple
of
slides
and
for
maybe
10-15
minutes
maximum
presentation
and
then
I
can
open
some
questions.
G
Okay,
if
this
looks
familiar
it's
because
it's
based
on
the
roadmap,
learning
talk
from
the
city
Summit
and
we
can
draw
it
so.
G
Okay,
so
City
events,
project,
update
and
roadmap
just
quickly
what
is
CD
events
CD
events
is
a
common
specification
for
continuous
delivery
events.
So
that's
the
core
of
the
project
is
a
specification,
but
we
also
have
sdks
and
other
pieces
of
content
that
we
work
on.
G
So
why
CD
events
I
mean
the
keyword
here
is
in
interoperability,
interoperability
in
the
CI
CD
space
for
events,
and
there
are
two
main
use
cases
that
we
are
looking
to
address
right
now,
and
one
is
the
the
first
one
is
even
driven
workflows.
G
So
you
can
decide
which
events
will
trigger
the
next
part
of
your
workflow,
and
these
of
course
means
that
your
architecture
is
very
decoupled.
It's
naturally
scalable
it's
very
flexible
and
it's
policy
driven
and
the
Second
Use
case.
It's
really
observability.
So
if
all
the
tools
in
your
tool
chain
that
you
use
to
build
your
workflow
send
events,
then
you
can
have
someone
that
listens
to
all
those
events
and
provides
services
like
metrics,
so
that
you
know,
for
instance,
how
well
you're
doing
in
your
workflow
execution
or
in
your
devops
metrics.
G
You
can
use
to
provide
like
a
single,
consistent
view,
so
your
users
across
your
distributed,
workflows
so
moving
on
then,
what's
what's
new,
so
the
city
Summit
in
Detroit,
we
are
now
City,
Event,
0.1
release
and
in
this
release,
what
we
implemented
is
events
that
belong
to
four
different
phases
or
buckets
specifically
orchestration
software
configuration
management,
CI
and
City,
and
the
events
that
we
have
today
they
provide
enough
data
to
calculate
two
of
the
dollar
metrics
devops
metrics,
namely
the
lead
time
for
changes
and
deployment
frequency
and,
as
part
of
this
initial
release.
G
Also,
we
release
the
go
SDK
and
we
have
a
python
SDK,
which
is
going
to
be
available
soon
and
the
Java
SDK,
which
is
work
in
progress,
and
so
this
is
the
content
of
the
release
that
we
we
made
for
the
city
Summit
in
Detroit
and
other
things
that
we
have
been
working
since
that
release
as
a
website
refresh
so
the
city
events.net
website.
We
really
focus
on
target
audiences,
making
sure
that
the
content
that
we
are
presenting
there
is
targeted
to
different
type
of
readers
like
people
that
is
they're
approaching
City
events.
G
You
continue
working
on
the
Java
SDK,
that's
an
important
piece,
because
it's
important
for
integration
into
Spinnaker,
which
is
written
in
Java
and
also
Fidelity
Fidelity,
is
interested
in
City
events
and
specifically
in
the
they
use
Jenkins,
which
is
also
Java
based,
and
that's
why
the
job
is.
The
case
is
key
for
these
two
Integrations.
G
Okay,
so
these
are
things
going
on
right
now
and
we
have
many
more
on
the
roadmap
so
supply
chain.
Security
is
a
very
important
topic
right
now,
so
we
want
to
enrich
our
data
models
to
include
things
like
a
software
bill
of
materials,
provenance
signatures
and
especially
for
the
use
case
of
distributed
workflows,
signed
events
that
become
relevant,
because
you
need
to
be
able
to
trust
the
source
of
your
workflow
events.
G
Then
we
want
to
expand
the
scope
that
we
have
from
the
forward
buckets
that
we
have
today
to
the
end-to-end
supply
chain
so
including
things
like
requirements,
releases
production
that
means
also
incidence
or
remediations
and
so
new
features
that
will
be
coming
in
associated
with
these
are
things
like
compositions
and
maybe
links
workflow
IDs
we're
discussing
for
connecting
events
with
each
other
and
yeah.
G
So
we
also
are
interested
in
more
sdks
that
we
have
today
and
doing
some
work
to
facilitate
like
policy
to
even
more
plus
in
terms
of
data
model
we
want
to
have.
What
we
want
to
do
is
to
enrich
the
existing
SCM
events
and
test
events
for
sure,
and
there
is
work
that
we
want
to
do
in
terms
of
documentation
so
to
have
some
more
architecture,
diagram
and
examples
of
how
to
use
City
events.
G
And
so
what
does
the
City
events
Community
look
like?
So
there
is
work
that
we
want
to
do
to
better
align
with
the
other
seats
in
the
CDF,
so
we're
looking
at
the
interoperability,
seek
supply
chain
and
best
practices
to
work
with
them.
To
make
sure
we
align
in
terminology
that
we
use
within
the
events,
but
also
like
broader
scope,
like
what
are
the
packets
that
we
should
cover
so
that
we
align
with
the
work
that
is
done
there.
G
We
have
a
number
of
companies
involved
and
we're
contributing
or
interested
so
sure,
Erickson
IBM,
right
out
to
a
while
Apple
they've
been
contributing
VMware
as
well,
and
there
is
interest
from
companies
like
Fidelity
and
SAS
I.
Think
Google
was
interested
as
well
in
terms
of
the
four
key
projects
for
the
Dora
metrics.
G
G
We
need
help
in
different
areas
for
City
events,
for
specification
for
Implement
additional
sdks
in
existing
ones,
but
also
new
ones
like
rust,
JavaScript,
Ruby,
c-sharp
and
so
forth.
We
need
help
reaching
out
to
the
different
tool
communities
getting
implementation
there,
implementing
proofs
of
Concepts
and
helping
end
users
that
want
to
try
City
events
out
yeah
and
that's
all
for
my
updates.
I
will
share
these
slides
and
some
links.
D
I
Yeah,
so
I
saw
that
we're
expanding
the
scope
of
CD
events
to
include
things
like
requirements
and
I
suspect
we're
not
the
first
people
who
want
to
standardize
what
requirements
look
like.
How
are
how
is
CD
events,
thinking
about
prior
art,.
G
G
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
so
far.
We
just
discuss
that
something
that
we
want
to
add
to
our
scope,
but
we
didn't
really
start
tackling
that
the
area
in
details,
something
that
for
sure,
is
that
we
want
to
stay
in
line
as
much
as
possible
with
any
discussion
in
this
area
that
is
done
within
the
six
in
the
CDF.
So
we
don't
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
H
It's
it's
great
to
see
how
far
the
city
fence
has
come
along
nice
job
to
the
whole
team.
There
really
moving
things
along
quicker
than
I
was
expecting
because
I
know
trying
to
get
people
to
agree
on
things
can
be
really
challenging.
G
Thanks
Steve
Robert.
J
C
Thank
you
great
update,
looks
awesome.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Question
I
have
is:
do
you
have
a
demo
right
now
where
I
could
go
and
look
at
a
video,
the
platonic
ideal
of
CD
events
working
with
some
CD
tool,
reporting
that
you
know
hey
this
CD
tool
did
something
and
look
it
showed
up
over
here
or
was
that
included
in
dot
one
or
is
that
waiting
until
dot?
Two.
G
We
have
pocs
Spruce
of
Concepts,
the
one
that
we
have
today,
then
to
to
be
up
to
date,
updated
I,
guess
to
to
the
version
to
the
0.1
version.
So
that
that's
a
great
question,
because
that's
something
that
I
mean
we
discussed
that
we
want
to
have
this
kind
of
showcase
and.
A
G
Part
of
what
I
included
under
documentation
and
examples,
because,
exactly
like
you
said
we
would
like
to
have
some
videos
or
architecture
diagrams
where
we
show
like
if
you
want
to
use
City
events
for
this
use
case.
G
D
G
So
we
we
have
pocs
and
I
can
point
you
to
to
those,
but
we
need
to
to
do
work
to
kind
of
make
them
more
easily
accessible.
You
know
and
yeah.
C
Well,
yeah
the
reason.
The
reason
why
I
ask
is
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
fomo
fear
of
missing
out
I
think
that's
a
just
a
Class
A
motivator,
especially
for
software
companies,
and
if
CD
events
was
able
to
say,
hey,
look
at
CD
product
X,
working
with
CD
events
and
how
cool
that
is
and
giving
them
the
Limelight.
C
That
has
a
tendency
to
lead
to
the
other
CD
providers
saying
well.
We
could
do
that
too,
and
that
might
be
a
way
of
of
encouraging
that
that
Community
growth
that
you
wanted.
G
We
have
a
few
conference
talks
that
we've
done
for
you
know
to
do
this
kind
of
advocacy
that
you're
talking
about
to
shoot,
to
see
like
to
show
things
like
pectin
working
with
Spinnaker
or
with
Captain
for
City
events,
and
so
we
have
this
kind
of
demonstration
done
in
a
few
a
few
talks,
or
we
have
a
talk
where
we
showed
like
using
CD
events
to
collect
data,
to
build
your
Dora
metrics,
but
yeah
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
surfacing.
C
Whenever
we
talk
about
a
database
at
liquid
base,
one
of
the
other
database
vendors
says
hey.
Why
aren't
you
talking
about
us
and
we
say:
well,
we
we'd
love
your
help
and
lo
and
behold
the
help
comes
so
that's
just
for
for
moving
the
community
forward.
If
that's
the
big
ask
and
and
I'm,
certainly
more
than
happy
to
help
with
that
and
and
giving
it
some
highlights
talking
about
it,
those
sorts
of
things,
but
let
reach
out
over
slack
and
let's,
let's
discuss
how
it
can
help.
K
Andre
I
have
a
quick
question
for
you
at
the
top
of
your
list
of
things
that
you
need
help
with
things
to
be
done.
Can
you
come
up
with
you
know?
Maybe
your
top
three
asks
because
I
know
it's
always
a
struggle
finding.
You
know
reliable
and
continuous
contributors
right,
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
just
for
us
to
know
what
to
ask
our
communities
for
in
order
to
bring
more
people
to
be
involved
in
this
project
and
be
able
to
contribute
more.
K
E
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
kind
of
template
out
some
sort
of
like
ask
like
what
is
needed
like
whether
it's
you
know
if
it's
contributors,
users
whatever
and
then
what
area,
because
I
saw
you
wanted
to
move
into
the
Java
space
and,
of
course,
like
we
have
a
huge
you
know
Network
in
Java,
but
it's
like
that's
a
big
space.
So
what
exactly
like
any
kind?
Anything
anytime
you
can
like
refine
things,
and
then
we
could
put
the
project
in
front
of
an
audience,
and
that
goes
for
all
of
the
projects.
E
G
E
I
think
that
would
be
great
because
I
think
sometimes
when
you're,
when
you're
in
it
right
when
you're
in
the
weeds
you,
you
really
don't
know
how
to
step
out
and
say.
Oh
this
is
this
is
exactly
what
we're
looking
for
and
I
think
if
there's
just
some
sort
of
template
for
people
to
go
by
it's
like
okay,
if
you're
looking
for
a
user,
what
kind
of
user
like
it's
someone
that
does
this,
that
does
this!
E
Does
this
and
you
can
give
people
the
criteria,
then
it
helps
you
refine
like
what
you're
maybe
missing
in
the
project
and
for
you
know
anybody
that's
going
to
Advocate
on
your
behalf.
They
have
like
they
can
just
say:
okay,
like
you
know
this
Project's
looking
for
users,
this
one's
looking
for
contributors,
this
one's
looking
for
whatever
and
I
think
you
know
as
a
Toc.
E
If
y'all,
could
you
know
spearhead
that
that,
of
course,
it's
a
template,
so
it
can
be
changed
and
and
made
specific
to
each
project,
but
I
think
that
would
really
help
help
the
projects
out
and
then
also
like
help
anybody
that's
trying
to
Advocate
on
that
project's
behalf,
because
they
can
just
be
like.
Oh,
let
me
grab
that
doc
or
whatever
and
just
say:
hey
do
you
know
anyone
that
fits
this?
G
E
C
G
So
Melissa
about
your
question,
I
think
we
would
discuss
with
the
rest
of
the
City
events
and
come
up
with
the
our
top
three.
K
Yeah
that'd
be
perfect,
I
mean
as
soon
as
you
said.
You
know
we're
looking
for
other
sdks
I've,
just
immediately
thought
of
communities
that
we
could
reach
out
to
to
get
some
help
with
that,
because
I
know
the
responsibility
of
being.
You
know
the
maintainer
of
it
can
get
overwhelming
and
we
really
need
to
you
know,
delegate
some
of
this
out
and
get
more
people
involved.
G
Yeah
yeah
that'd
be
great,
like,
for
instance,
one
contributor
was
looking
to
to
a
GitHub
action
for
City
events
and
like
the
most
natural
language,
there
would
be
JavaScript
because
they
have
a
good
starting
kit
for
JavaScript
that
we
don't
have
a
JavaScript,
SDK
or
I'm
thinking
a
project
like
Persia.
M
L
I
I
got
the
answer,
the
answer
is,
it's
still
new,
we
don't
know
and
we're
boom,
we'll
talk
to
people
yeah.
L
D
L
D
D
G
Okay,
yeah,
that's
that's
a
great
question,
thanks
Jim
for
bringing
it
up
to
this
scenario
that
we
mentioned
a
few
times.
We
don't
have
a
announce
for
that.
Announcer
to
that.
Yet
basically
did
one
one
thought
is
City
events
as.
D
G
Specification
is
not
bound
to
any
transfer
specifically,
I
mean
the
way
that
that
we
are
doing.
Specification
is
okay.
This
is
what
what
are
the
fields
that
you
can
use
to
describe
your
events,
and
then
we
have
a
binding
document
and
say:
okay.
Well,
this
is
how
you
format
the
City
events,
if
you
want
to
send
a
CD
events
through
a
cloud
event
and
that's
kind
of
the
main
mean
of
Transport.
That
we
have
today
is
cloud
events.
G
G
Well,
you
could
set
it
as
part
to
Prometheus
or
even
I
was
thinking
recently.
You
could
send
it
as
part
of
things
like
distributed
tracing
package
as
I've
seen,
use
cases
where
people
want
to
see
do
a
distributed
tracing
over
a
distributed
workflow
and
get
additional
information
along
the
steps.
So
you
could
have
like
City
events
injected
in
there
if
it
makes
sense.
J
G
All
right,
I
guess
in
the
interest
of
time
we
have
another
presentation
today,
so
I
would
suggest
moving
on
to
the
go.
N
Yeah
thanks
everyone
for
the
invite.
My
name
is
Jim
I'm,
a
developer
Advocate
at
harness
harness
we're
a
software
delivery
lifecycle
vendor.
So
we
have
services
for
all
kinds
of
steps
in
software
delivery
Pipelines,
so
Throne
is
an
open
source
project
that
it's
been
around
about
10
years
and
the
go
SCM
library
of
drone
is
the
topic
and
I
am
here.
N
So
this
is
the
Forum
post
that
prompted
this
almost
well
almost
three
years
ago,
now,
better
late
than
never
so
Christy
Wilson
from
Google
from
the
tecton
team
reached
out.
You
know
wondering
if
the
go
sem
Library
would
be
something
that
could
be
donated
to
something
like
the
CDF.
So
that's
What's
led
to
me
being
here
today,
so
to
see,
if
that's
a
possibility,
so
I
can
give
you
some
background
on
the
project.
N
So
the
gosdm
Library
provides
a
unified
interface
to
multiple
SCM
systems.
I
can
get
the
list.
This
isn't
the
full
list,
but
GitHub
gitlab,
bitbucket
Getty,
and
a
few
more
so
it's
been
forked
by
Jenkins
EX
at
some
point
and
I
think
maybe
some
other
projects
have
forked
it
or
they
are
at
least
using
the
Jenkins
X
fork
for
sure.
N
N
So
the
library
provides
all
kinds
of
functionality
around
interacting
with
an
sem
like
retrieving,
commits
tags,
branches,
pull
request,
events
yeah,
you
name
it
and
all
of
that
can
be
abstracted
away
without
knowing
the
specifics
of
the
SCM
I'm
just
going
by
a
template
that
was
handed
off
to
me.
So
that's
that's
what
I
have
in
this
document
here
so
how
this
aligns,
potentially
with
the
CDF
Charter
I,
would
say
that
the
library
can
assist
in
source
code
interactions
for
go
to
Lang
projects
in
a
vendor
neutral
way.
N
Our
code
of
conduct
in
the
project
is
the
cncf
code
of
contact.
The
license
is
the
BSC
bsd2
Clause
patent.
This
is
the
link
to
the
repo
it's
under
the
Drone
GitHub
organization.
Right
now,
issues
are
in
the
Repository
for
external
dependencies.
It
actually
only
has
a
few
if
you
want
to
go.
Look
through
the
go.mod
file.
I
think
this.
Is
it
it's
these
three?
N
As
far
as
work
to
release
the
project?
It's
it's
a.
It
doesn't
produce
an
artifact
right.
It's
just
a
go.
It's
a
library,
but
there
is
a
CI
pipeline
and
there's
a
release
procedure
documented
in
the
readme.
N
As
far
as
contributors,
I
I
grab
the
list
of
the
most
frequent
contributors
through
the
git
log
here,
I'm,
not
sure
how
important
that
is,
but
but
beyond
that
the
template
had.
You
know,
questions
around
governance
and
maturity
level
that
I'm
not
sure
if
I
know
how
to
answer,
but
then
I
provided
some
more
links
to
documentation
and
the
community
Brad
brzezki
who
created
drone,
he's
on
the
call.
N
If
we
need
more
context,
he
he
has
the
most
context
around
the
project
and
where
it's
being
used
in
in
the
history
of
it.
But
that
is
what
I
had
prepared.
G
Great
thanks,
Jim
box
of
questions.
K
D
J
We
have
quite
a
few
changes
like
774
commits
more
than
drone,
and
drone
has
334
commits
more
than
us,
so
I
would
really
like
if
we
can
like
consolidate
and
maybe
have
one
you
know
repo,
where
you
know
like
everyone
can
can
I
I
mean
you
know
like
that,
can
be
used
by
all,
but
it
will
be
a
lot
of
work
to
finally
consolidate
the
Jenkins
X4,
with
the
Drone
Fork,
like
with
certain
but
like
the
Drone
going
on
CM
repo.
M
You
know
on
the
Drone
and
the
harness
side,
we've
invested
a
lot
in
tighter
Integrations
around
things
like
creating
files
and
creating
commits,
and
it
looks
like
on
the
Jenkins
x
side.
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
on
web
hooks,
so
I
I
think
you
know.
We've
also
been
focusing
on
adding
support
for
a
number
of
additional
vendors
like
supporting
the
Azure
devops
git
offering
and
the
a
couple
additional
SCM
offerings
I
think
Getty,
which
is
a
company
out
of
China.
M
J
Yeah,
that
that
would
be
great.
H
And
would
it
make
sense
the
way
and
I
don't
know
how
the
code
is
laid
out,
but
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
have
like
a
core,
reusable
piece
and
then
you
know
two
different
parts
that
are
ones
like
Jenkins,
X,
specific
and
then
the
other
parts.
More
of
the,
like,
you
said
the
the
other
part,
or
does
it
make
sense
to
try
to
merge
into
a
single
repository?
What's
what's
kind
of
the
the
thought
process
you
you
guys
have
in
mind
foreign.
A
M
You
know
on
the
Jenkins
x
side,
you
know,
certainly
all
the
work
they've
done
around
adding
support
for
additional
web
hook
and
event
types
they've
done
some
nice
improvements
to
the
error
handling
with
with
more
granular
error
messaging,
so
that
would
be
great
to
bring
into
the
core
I
would
Advocate
there's
some
things.
I
would
Advocate
splitting
out.
M
You
know
when
you
saw
that
presentation
that
Jim
gave
you
notice
there's
only
three
dependencies.
Those
dependencies
are
not
run
time.
Dependencies
they're
they're
only
unit
test
dependencies
on
the
Jenkins
x
side.
It
does
look
like
it's
brought
in
some.
What
I
would
describe
is
some
heavyweight
go
dependencies
like
kubernetes
and
stuff
like
that
in
the
go
mod,
so
I
would
love
to
see,
and
those
seem
to
be
mainly
for
examples.
So
I
would
love
to
see
you
know.
M
If
possible,
could
we
have
like
a
a
separate
repository,
for
example,
so
we
could
eliminate
some
of
those
dependencies.
You
know
for
some
of
the
go
purists
like
myself
that
just
want
you
know
the
bare
minimum,
but
yeah
I
mean
it'd,
be
a
ton
of
work,
but
it's
something
we
would
agree
to
and
we
would
love
to
spearhead.
J
Yeah
I
can
I
can
try
to
know
like
take
a
look
at
it
and
and
see
if
we
can
remove.
Some
of
you
know
like
the
external
stuff,
I,
don't
really
like
that,
we
are
using
go
and
we
keep
on
bringing
you
know
like
third
party
stuff.
When
you
know
the
standard
stuff
is
good
enough,
so
yeah
I
I
really
want
to
take
a
look
at
it.
So
we
should
probably
try
to
sync
sometimes
in
the
coming
months
or
so
maybe
the
Drone.
You
know
the
community
and
online
changing
sets.
H
And
then,
from
a
a
governance
perspective,
would
you
try
to
merge
or
just
create
a
new
governance
structure,
or
would
you
try
to
bring
in
folks
from
the
Jenkins
section
to
the
Drone
side?
Does
that
make
sense.
M
Yeah
I
mean
I,
my
thought
would
be
you
know.
Maybe
we
could
you
know
we
could
create
like
a
neutral
organization
or
put
this
in
a
neutral
place.
So
it
wasn't.
You
know
it
wasn't
in
drone,
it
wasn't
in
Jenkins
we
could
find
a
neutral
org.
M
You
know
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
governance.
You
know
we
would
look
for
you
know
the
the
CD
foundation
for
everyone's
help
on
here
for
building
a
healthy
community
and
and
and
figuring
out
the
governance
model.
You
know
when
I
was
when
I
was
doing
the
Drone
project.
It
was
a
very
large.
You
know
open
source
Community,
but
we
were
very
resource
constrained.
M
So
you
know
I
would
say
we
were
open
source,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
room
for
improvement
on
the
on
how
we
did
or
and
on
how
we
do
community.
So
you
know,
there's
you
know,
I
I
think
there's
a
lot.
We
could
improve
upon
on
the
Drone
side,
so
I
would
rather
take
cues
from
the
CD
foundation
and
maybe
start
from
scratch
or
develop
something
new.
H
H
All
right
one
more
question
for
me:
what
what's
your
time
frame
that
you're
looking
at?
Are
you
trying
to
do
you
know,
get
this
whole
thing
rolling
within
the
next
month
or
two
or
six
months
a
year.
M
Yeah
we
we
didn't
really
have
a
time
frame
in
mind.
I
think
the
idea
was
to
gauge
interest
and
if
you
know,
if,
if
there's
interest,
it's
it's
something
we
we
can
come
back
and
you
know
maybe
myself
and
I
don't
know.
If
it
was
was
that
on
Keith
from
the
Jenkins
X
team,
you
know,
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
a
plan
and
figure
out
some
timelines.
K
As
far
as
bringing
it
into
the
foundation
I
guess
we
just
need
to
decide
what
decisions
need
to
be
made
beforehand
before
we
make
that
formal
decision.
What
is
what
is
necessary
now
you've
worked
on.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
documentation
trying
to
figure
out
the
governance
structure,
and
things
like
that.
So
where
do
we
draw
the
line,
and
maybe
fatigue
could
answer
this
question
at
what
point
would
we
vote
on
something
like
this.
B
Yeah
I
think,
once
the
initial
analysis
are
done
is
done
and
present
to
see.
This
can
be
discussed
again
like
because
now
we
have
two
repository
one
original
upstream
and
the
other
one
for
so,
if,
like
I've,
seen
also
conversation
on
the
slack
on
the
chat
as
well
like
the
way
to
go
could
be
starting
a
fresh,
an
organization
like
how
CDs
was
you
know,
created,
and
then
that
could
be.
You
know,
wrote
in
QRC
saying
that
we
want
to
start
the
Clean
Slate.
B
D
B
Way
forward,
then
TLC
can
advise
the
random
we
can
discuss
with
legal,
because
it's
kind
of
a
different
situation.
It's
not
like
CD
events
from
scratch.
It's
not
like
a
project
joining
it's
like
combining
efforts
to
make
this
more.
You
know
accessible
and
community
orienting,
and
we
can
do
that
in
parallel
to
Bradley
and
Ankit.
M
H
The
the
BSD
is
fine,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
patchy
tour
or
anything
like
that.
So.
G
Sorry,
it
was
admitted
yeah
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
what
the
the
community
looked
like
for
the
original
project
today.
Is
there
contribution
by
different
organizations,
or
is
it
one
company
behind
it
just
to
understand
what
what
the
shape
of
the
community
is
today.
M
Yeah,
so
we
do
get
external
contributions,
so
we've
gotten
contributions
from
companies
like
mesos,
a
number
of
other
open
source
projects,
there's
a
couple
of
other
open
source,
CI
vendors
that
are
using
and
contributing
to
the
project.
Obviously,
we
use
it
internally
at
harness
both
in
the
harness
products
and
in
the
Drone
project.
M
And
then,
on
the
fork
side,
you
know:
there's
there's
Jenkins,
X
and
and
tecton
as
well.
G
Great
yeah,
so
I
guess,
if,
if
there
was
one
single
converged
project
with
the
new
governance
against
the
community
would
also
probably
Converge
on
that
I.
Definitely
I
know
that
on
techno
side
for
sure
there
is
interest
and
looking
at
what
it
would
take
to
to
use
the
original
go
with
CM,
because
I
don't
think
we
have
very
specific
dependency
on
any
Jenkin
X
on
any
feature
that
is
implemented
on
the
Jenkins
Port.
G
But
we
need
to
assess
that,
but
yeah
so
I
think
it
would
be
the
definitely
working
from
technical
side
if
there
was
just
one
project
as
well.
You
know
like
to
want
to
contribute
to
for
sure.
D
H
N
It's
going
to
ask
if
we
have
a
preferred
way
of
going
we're
going
with
next
steps.
Should
we
start
an
email
thread.
K
N
G
H
Could
be
open,
I,
don't
foresee
any
problems
with
that.
We
have
other
channels
out
there
like
CD
events,
Persia
the
Sig
events,
so
I
I
think
adding
just
another.
Channel
will
probably
be
the
easiest
way
to
keep
our
keep
the
conversation
in
in
the
same
bucket.
D
H
D
D
G
So
I
think
we
said
that
having
some
some
decision
on
this,
how
to
bring
the
communities
together
would
be
kind
of
a
prerequisite
to
move
forward
really
with
the
with
the
donation
of
the
project
to
the
CDF
The
Proposal
is
that
is
the
plan,
a
prerequisite
or
its
implementation
of
prerequisites,
foreign.
H
I
think
we
just
need
a
high
level
plan
kind
of
like
a
road
map
and
how
the
two
groups
Envision
things
moving
forward
and
I.
Think
that
will
help
us
drive
a
lot
of
decisions
about
you
know
creating
repos
and
all
the
the
logistics
that
happen
after
that,
so
I
I
think
we
should
get
the
that
roadmap
kind
of
written
down,
and
then
we
review
it
at
one
of
our
next
Toc
meetings
and
from
there
we
can
kind
of
move
forward
with
the
step.
After
that,
that's
what
I
would
suggest.
L
G
I
mean
it
makes
sense
to
me.
What
do
you
guys
think
Gene
probably
does
that
sound
like
a
good
plan
for
you.
M
G
G
D
G
Okay,
all
right
I
just
realized
we're
at
time.
I'm.
Sorry
Justin,
you
had
another
Topic
in
the
agenda.
Can
we
discuss
it
next
time.
G
G
Thanks
everyone
for
chatting
today
and
until
next
time.