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From YouTube: CDF TOC Meeting, Dec 20, 2022
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B
A
A
B
E
D
The
20th
of
December,
the
the
oh,
not
Solstice,
what's
the
opposite,.
D
D
D
F
G
Well,
unless
somebody
wants
to
step
in
I'm
ready
to
run
it,
but
somebody
else
wants
to
do
that.
Just
do
it.
G
So
we
have
Melissa
and
Andrea
Who
currently
eliminated,
so
maybe
Minister
wants
to
run
this
meeting.
I
don't
know
so
maybe
you
want
to
run
this
meeting
since
the
you
submitted,
your
elimination
for
the
TUC
chair.
A
Okay,
I
certainly
can
do
that.
Let
me
drop
the
link
in
the
chat
just
for
those
who
need
to
know
where
the
meeting
notes
are
taken.
A
So
we
do
have
the
TOC
chair
election,
we'll
talk
about
that.
Just
for
a
moment.
We
do
have
GitHub
link
for
that
there
in
the
notes.
I'll
drop
that
in
the
chat
as
well.
We
do
have
two
of
us
that
have
applied
for
this
position
and
boating
is
tomorrow.
So
please
indicate
your
comments
or
your
vote
in
either
in
the.
E
Voting
will
be
done
by
signing
Google
for
I
need
to
check
this
with
Michelle,
so
it
won't
probably
be
done
under
the
GitHub
issue
Okay
so,
but
you
can
show
your
support
there
obviously
like
by
comment.
You
know
it's
it's
fine,
but
voting
will
be
done
like
any
other.
What
election
we
had
within
the
foundation?
Okay,
so.
G
E
E
A
All
right:
well,
next
up
we
had
a
discussion
about
go
sem,
joining
the
organization
last
time
or
being
adopted.
We
do
we
have
anyone
from
gosem
here
today.
A
It
doesn't
look
like
we'd
do,
but
if
you
remember,
if
you
were
that
at
our
meetings
last
time
we
discussed,
we
talked
about
the
two
different
branches
that
have
merged
from
that
project
and
how
we're
already
you
know
currently
using
utilizing
one
of
those,
so
the
job
of
that
Community
is
to
get
together,
decide
whether
to
merge.
Those
together
start
with
a
brand
new
community,
basically
figure
out
an
option
for
governance
of
that
project.
E
Yeah
yeah.
Actually
there
is
a
channel
on
our
slack
CD
Foundation
slack.
It's
called
code.
Scm
I
passed
my
updates
from
the
legal
there
as
well
as
I.
Can
some
I
will
summarize
them
here?
So
one
of
the
things
you,
as
you
mentioned,
Melissa
was
like
the
community
needs
to
decide
like
where
to
work,
to
combine
their
efforts
because,
like
drone
slash
boy
SCM
is
the
original
project.
Jenkins
X
question
is
the
fork
and
both
of
them
continue
their
lives
and
they
have
been
developed
independently.
E
So
the
project
needs
to
ignore
the
contributors
need
to
decide
like
where
to
go,
and
legal
team
doesn't
have
any
specific
recommendation
for
this.
As
long
as
Community
agrees
on
one
thing
like
staying
in
Duron
or
using
junk
insects
or
creating
fresh
organization
or
pulling
the
triple
under
CD
Foundation,
they
can
do
that.
So
as
long
as
Community
says,
we
want
to
go
this
way.
The
legal
team
is
fine
with
it
the
problem,
the
potential
problem
we
may
have
with
this.
Like,
let's
assume
the
comment
wants
to
call
this
new
orc
co-scm.
E
Then
there
may
be
an
issue
there,
because
when
I
was
Googling,
I
found
a
company
named,
go
sem,
who
does
supply
chain
stuff
like
the
physical
supply
chain?
I
ask
this
to
Legal
team
and
they
said
like
what
goes
CM
project
is
doing,
is
pretty
different
than
what
that
company
is
doing.
They
don't
expect
legal
issues
there
and
if
those
issues
like
if
cosm
company
comes
after
the
project,
then
the
legal
team
says
we
can
help
the
project
with
that.
So
the
project
is
literally
free
to
name
project
organization,
whatever
they
like.
D
E
E
If
they
wanted,
like
it's
up
to
community
like
if
Community
wants
to
some
like
fun
facts
in
their
name,
they
can
do
that
and
I'm
sure
legal
team
won't
care
about
that.
No,
but
yeah,
it
is
like
it's
up
to
the
community.
Now
we
have
contacts
from
legal
team.
If
the
project
comes
and
says
we
want
to
go
with
oscmcm,
that's
fine,
and
then
we
go
with
that.
If
the
project
says,
oh,
you
want
to
pull
the
project
under
CD
Foundation.
E
E
Forehand
tagged
on
techno
hand,
chart
which
is
hosted
under
CD
Foundation,
so
that
is
fine
as
well,
so
I
guess
we
need
to
get
back
to
project
team
and
ask
them
to
come
back
after
a
while
once
they
have
figured
the
way
forward
out
and
then
based
on
their
consensus.
We
can
support
them
whatever
they
may.
Whatever
way
they
want
to
go
from
legal
perspective.
E
G
Yeah,
maybe
one
question
so
when
we
talk
about
Google
CM.
Actually
there
is
a
third
instance,
so
when
a
woodpecker
forked
out
of
a
drone
during
the
harness
acquisition
I
believe
they
also
forked
out
good
goal,
is
here
and
since
we
had
something
engagements
with
woodpecker
team,
maybe
as
a
part
of
this
important,
it
could
also
make
sense
to
reach
out
to
woodpecker
and
see
whether
they
would
like
to
be
stakeholders
and
also
join
this
movement
for
the
project.
C
I,
don't
see
the
fork
in
there
or
though
I
mean
unless
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong
or
there
is
a
woodpecker
CI
and
I
I
can
post
some
yeah.
Let
me
resume
things.
C
Yeah
so
it
doesn't
seem
like
they
have
their
own,
though
SCM
Fork,
so.
E
C
They
are
not
broken.
Yeah
yeah
might
be
good
to
have
some
kind
of
a
redirect,
but
we
can
talk
about
that.
Clip
yeah.
D
I
I
just
want
to
underscore
the
and
communicating
to
those
folks
that,
where
it's
it's
a
dependency
on,
you
know
when
it's
time
why
we're
doing
this?
We're
taking.
You
know
two
good
things
and
making
them
even
better
peanut
butter
and
chocolate,
and
just
letting
them
know
that
spotty
I'm,
just
responding
to
the
word,
disappear,
replaced
with
something
new
and
improved.
But.
C
I
mean
so
I
think
if
it's
in
drone
then
I'm
fine
with
that,
it's
just
that
we
have
moved
so
much
more
like
we
have
more
commits
than
drone
at
this
point
and
so
moving
it
to
neutral
or
good,
like
would
make
more
sense
to
me,
like
I,
mean
I
I,
think
putting
it
in
CD.
You
know,
like
Foundation,
also
I,
think
those
were
the
two
you
know
suggestions
I
had
one
was
a
new
org
or
CD
Foundation,
because
then
maintainers
from
both
the
group
can
actually
work
on
it.
F
C
G
A
C
I
mean
if,
if
it
moves
to
a
new
order,
does
it
make
sense
to
have
you
know
like
a
website
for
it,
then
that
can
go
into
the
go
SCM
org
and
then
you
can
also
have
you
know
like
examples
like
how
do
you
plan
to
use
it
with
like
Jenkins
X?
We
have
an
examples
folder
which
increases.
The
number
of
you
know
like
dependencies
that
we
add
to
the
native
go.
You
know
like
I,
see
I'm
thinking
so
that
can
go
out,
and
that
can
be
that
that
can
leave
in
its
own
thing.
C
Three,
you
know
like
repositories
but
I
I
I
still
think
CD
Foundation
is
is
like
the
right
org
for
it
and
or
or
a
neutral
yeah
I,
I
I,
don't
know
those
two
things
I
think
Brad
is
actually
not
part
of
that
slack.
Another
Channel
I,
don't
know.
If
he's
actually
part
of
the
CDF.
You
know
like
workspace.
C
F
G
It's
well,
we
apply
to
login
provider
policies,
which
is
arguably
an
upstream
developer
dependency,
a
focal
with
cm.
So
it
means
that
if
go,
we
see
is
transferred
and
go
login
isn't
it
might
be
a
bit
of
funny
situation.
F
D
Just
to
clarify
both
harness
and
Jenkin
X
are
totally
on
board
with
this.
This,
in
fact,
was
I
think
their
idea
right.
So
that
being
said,
you
know
all
of
these
other
issues
that
could
come
up.
Oh
what
about
this?
What
about
that?
You
know
what
I
I
I've
Got
Confidence,
that
both
teams
can
work
through
this
I
I
don't
want
us.
I
would
hate
for
us
to
focus
on
the
possibility
of
things
going
wrong
and
solve
for
those
problems
that
haven't
happened
yet,
instead
of
just
like
well,
look,
let's
get
the
big
rocks.
D
You
know
certainly
legal.
What
are
we
calling
this
thing
and
then
having
those
things
they
have
a
tendency
to
work
out.
I,
don't
see
them
being
deal
Killers
I,
don't
see
them
stopping
any
of
this.
A
Yeah
agreed,
my
next
question
was
I,
mean
I.
Think
us
in
this
group
probably
aren't
in
the
position
to
make
the
decisions
either.
We
need
the
community
their
their
Community,
to
look
at
it
and
and
engage
and
start
making
some
of
these
decisions
and
move
forward
with
it.
So
the
best
way
for
us
to
kick
start,
it
is
I,
don't
know,
start
tagging
people
in
that
channel.
A
Making
these
comments
making
these
suggestions
see
if
we
can
get
a
group
of
people
that
are
actively
involved
in
those
communities,
making
sure
that
they're
getting
getting
their
comments
in
and
letting
them
make
those
decisions
to
move
forward.
A
So
that
leaves
us,
as
the
TOC
I
mean.
Do
we
we
don't
have
anything
left
on
that
front
until
we
hear
more
from
that
community
and
what
the
decisions
are
and
a
proposal
for
governments
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
would
ask
those
of
you
that
have
strong
feelings
about
this
get
in
there
and
help
these
people
get
moving.
D
C
Did
I
miss
it
I
I
think
it
was
done
in
the
last.
You
know
like
meeting
so
both
of
us
agreed
but
I.
Don't
think
we
have
a
written
statement
somewhere.
If
that's
what
you
wanted.
D
Something
like
hey:
we're
engaged
we're
really
looking
forward
to
making
this
happen.
Like
some
announcements
save
the
date,
you
know
when
project
leaders
come
out
and
say:
hey
we're
going
in
this
direction.
Team
jump
on
board
as
opposed
to
you
know
the
TOC
saying
hey.
Do
this!
Do
that
all
right,
if
we
could
get
you
know,
provide
some
air
cover
from
the
project
leads
to
say
gang,
we're
doing
it
and
and
and
put
it
on
Twitter
put
it
out.
You
know
medium
post,
something
like
that.
This
is
why
we're
doing
it.
E
Yeah,
maybe
an
idea
robot,
that's
actually
a
really
good
thing
like
maybe
on
kids.
Would
you
be
interested
to
write
a
blog
post
about
this
idea
and
then
we
can
also
highlight
this
like?
Maybe
there
are
some
other
users
who
may
not
be
aware
of
this
discussion,
so
we
can
post
it
on
LinkedIn,
Twitter,
Jim
and
villat
if
you
can
write
or
other
a
short
blog
post
with
like
history,
why?
E
C
Okay,
I
will
have
a
draft
ready
by
the
end
of
this
week,
and
I
will
post
it
in
the
shared
in
a
like
channel
that
we
have.
E
C
D
And
then
you
know
having
look
both
harness
and
Jenkins
Knives
have
broad
reach
and
to
be
able
to
push
that
out
and
to
say,
hey,
look.
This
is
happening,
that's
really
strong
and
and
what
that
does
is
it
gets
everybody
thinking
about
what's
possible
and
and,
and
you
know
bold,
decisive
direction
for
go
sem.
You
know
that
that
kind
of
stuff
that
works
man
and
and
people
say.
Oh,
this
is
happening
great.
How
can
I
help
as
opposed
to
hey?
Can
you
help
help
with
what
the
hell's
happening?
D
D
F
E
E
D
E
D
C
D
That's
hey,
y'all,
run
it
how
you
want,
but
but
just
having
both
projects
right
involved
and
and
it's
not
just
one
of
them,
saying
it
it's
both
of
them
and
if
it's
on
both
projects,
websites,
that's
strong
statement
and-
and-
and
you
know,
people
like
great
we're
doing
this
sounds
awesome.
Oh
I've
always
wanted
it
from
that
side.
I
was
wanted
this
bit
of
code
from
this
one
yeah
that
that's
way
strong
way,
strong,
yeah
your
project,
you
run
it.
How
you
want
just
a
suggestion.
C
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
makes
sense
to
me.
G
Yes,
so
I
was
making
some
notes
in
the
channel.
Etc
and
yeah
I
basically
took
as
one
of
assignments
for
this
story
in
the
discussion,
but
yeah.
If
you
see
any
other
items,
Etc
just
put
them
here.
E
Yes,
maybe
I
can
quickly
share
my
screen
and
click
those
links,
so
if
you
are
subscribed
to
the
CD
Foundation
mail
lists
or
distribution
list,
you
probably
received
this
announcement
last
week,
so
we
finalized
the
conversation
between
cdfc
and
CF
and
all
the
different
projects
involved
like
from
CNC
site,
especially
to
bring
these
two
Iran's
together,
and
that
was
about
and
we
sent
the
notification
last
week.
E
E
We
will
probably
open
the
call
for
papers
for
cover
proposals
early
January
and
start
writing
your
thought
proposals
and
additionally,
we
will
have
the
Spinnaker
Summit
together
with
this
event
as
well
like
Silicon,
guitars,
constipating
or
Summit
all
will
be
happening,
May,
8th
and
9th.
So
we
want
to
bring
everyone
together.
All
the
projects
together,
CD
and
github's
projects,
and
before
this
cfp
opens
up
XC.
E
We
have
another
form
available
for
summoning
nominations
to
join
the
program
commit
for
cdcon,
so
the
program
Community
we
will
be
forming,
will
be
working
with
silicon
talks
for
silicon
parts
and
topscom
will
be
organized
by
those
people.
So
the
program
committee
will
be
formed
from
within
those
communities.
But
if
you
are
interested
to
take
part
in
program
committee
for
cdcon,
please
apply
and
then
the
final
dates
for
application
is
January
4th
and
I'm
from
China
410
on
North.
E
E
G
E
E
C
Is
there
a
place
where
I
can
see
what
the
program
you
know
like
committee
is
supposed
to
do
so?
I
want
to
apply
for
it,
but
then
I
also
want
to
apply
for.
E
E
E
Yeah
I
will
put
that
link
on
slack
and
I
will
pass
it
to
you
on
kit
as
well,
and
we
will
update
the
form
and
input
that
link
in
the
form
too.
C
E
C
E
B
E
Their
interest,
we
can't
have
a
program
point
with
50
people
so
like
these
are
nominations
and
if
you
become
member
of
program
community,
what
usually
happens
is
like
you
may
you
know
avoid
voting
for
your
own
talk
like
conflict
of
interest
and
you
don't
want
and
others
can
what
and
if
it
makes
it
it
makes
it.
If
it
doesn't,
then
it
will
be
decision
of
program
committee.
So
yeah,
you
can
be
part
of
Oregon
Community
and
submit
a
top
proposal.
H
Just
to
give
you
some
having
been
on
the
program
committee
last
year,
that
was
how
we
did
it
like
it
was
it.
It
was
if
you
came
across
you
because
they
were
all
blind
submit
like
reviews.
If
you
came
across
your
talk,
you
just
said
you
skipped
it,
you
could
skip
over
it
and
we
also
had
the
there
was
an
audit
I
hate
to
call
it
an
audit,
but
it
was
like
a
report
that
we're
given
on
who
rated
what.
H
So,
if
it
was,
you
know
if
you
accidentally
rated
yours,
then
they
would
take
that
out.
We
just
took
that
out
on
the
you
know,
because
I
think
I
forgot
what
I
had
submitted.
So
you
know
if
you
just
take
that
it's
a
thing
and
then
just
took
that
out
and
then
it
that
way
they
weren't
counted
as
part
of
the
submission.
So
there
were
people
that
gave
talks
that
were
also
on
the
committee,
so.
E
A
So,
fatty,
the
last
time
we
did
this.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
the
types
of
submissions?
The
number
of
submissions?
Is
there
any
work
that
we
need
to
think
about
earlier
on?
In
order
to
get
more,
do
we
need
to
advise
people
exactly
what
topics
we're
looking
for
things
like
that.
E
We
are
taking
cdcon
and
gitopscom
I,
don't
call
them
tracks,
but
topics
as
a
basis
and
I
don't
expect
them
to
change
drastically.
So,
okay,
that
could
be
a
guidance
principle
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
creating
proposal
stock
proposals.
But
again
we
expect
the
website
to
go
live
being
of
January,
and
these
will
be
documented
that
as
well
as
on
cfp
form,
so
they
will
be
visible
on
the
website
and
cfp
form.
So
yeah
we
are
pretty
close
to
going
like
the
design.
E
Work
is
happening
for
The
Branding,
because
we
now
have
C
diff
and
cncf
organized
event,
so
it
won't
be
CDF,
branding
or
CNC
planning.
That
is
what
is
taking
every
time,
but
yeah
early
January.
Hopefully
this
will
be
visible
on
the
website
and
we
can
I
can
add
the
topic
again
once
the
website
is
live,
so
we
can
discuss
during
two
or
something
as
well.
A
A
All
right,
good
things
to
look
forward
to
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
A
Okay,
moving
on
the
CDF
Toc
road
map
updates
and
Handover.
G
Let's
just
make
update
from
my
side,
so
yeah
I've
already
presented
this
roadmap,
so
I
was
plugged
in
the
team
for
feedback
a
few
times
before.
I
moved
the
roadmap
to
GitHub
project
2.0
So.
Currently,
it's
basically
the
same
roadmap
as
we
had
before.
With
some
adjustments
and
placeholders
for
topics
we
discussed
like
the
archiving
The
sequels
the
items,
let's
say
for
CD
events
versus
item
for
CDA
preference
architecture,
Etc,
so
I
just
tried
to
capture
everything.
G
We've
been
talking
about
so
forth,
basically
what
we
were
doing
one
year
ago
and
what
they
think
that
we
need
to
continue
doing.
Just
the
general
meeting.
Take
a
look
at
these
three
columns
and
just
see
what
is
moving.
What
is
not
so
that
we
don't
we'll
set
the
track
of
these
tasks,
so
it's
basically
a
refurbished
version
of
what
we
had
before.
G
Clearly,
there
is
one
issue:
there
are
not
that
many
technical
topics
happening
right
now.
Some
topics
also
have
questionable
future,
for
example
CDF
TUC.
So
somebody
definitely
needs
to
scrub
this
roadmap
Etc
but
yeah.
They
would
to,
however,
takes
the
leadership
as
a
TLC
chair,
but
what
is
important
that
every
TUC
member
has
full
access
to
this
roadmap
and
they
are
more
than
encouraged
to
participate
in
editing
towards
topics,
for
example,
from
six
and
projects
that
they
participate
or
female
stones
for
men.
G
G
A
This
looks
so
good
I
think
it
probably
a
lot
of
us
on
here,
especially
our
newer
members,
need
to
take
more
time
to
go
through
that
roadmap
and
familiarize
yourself
with
everything
in
there
ask
questions,
make
comments
in
our
doc.
Channel
I
know
one
thing
I
want
to
avoid
you
know
over
this
next
year.
Is
anyone
not
knowing
what's
going
on
or
understanding
what's
going
on?
So
please
be
okay
with
just
throwing
your
questions
out
there
in
the
TOC
channel,
so
that
we
can
make
comments
and
everyone
can
contribute.
A
I
know
we
all
have
our
time
of
our
day
that
we
devote
to
this
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
valuable
and
that
we're
using
it
in
the
best
way
possible.
So
very
much
appreciate
you
all
like
for
putting
that
together.
It
looks
pretty
organized
and
all
of
the
tagging
and
everything
very
informative.
G
So
you're
wanting
to
keep
in
mind
so
that
it's
GitHub
project
zero,
so
it
basically
exists
on
the
organization
level
so,
regardless
of
where
they
think
is
located
to
see
project
or
CCD
events,
projects,
Foundation
project-
you
can
just
edit
right
away
so
I
hope
we
put
the
permission
model
right
together
is
fatigue
well.
But
if
you
really
see
that
it's
missing
in
some
of
six
Etc,
you
just
command
them.
F
A
A
A
F
G
B
I
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
myself
I'm
Cameron
motovasonic
I,
guess
I
should
have
done
that
a
little
bit
earlier,
but
I'm
over
at
the
Spinnaker
project,
so
I'll
be
joining
the
TSC
meetings
here
going
forward,
so
bring
me
on
slack
CDF
or
Spinnaker
whatever.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
comments
or
anything.
F
E
D
A
All
right,
everyone
I
think
we're!
That's
it.
If
you
did
join
late,
remember
we
do
have
our
recordings,
they
do
get
posted
soon
after
the
meeting.
So
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
notes
that
we
took
and
take
a
look
at
the
recording.
Please
feel
free
to
do
that,
all
right
good
to
see
you
all
happy
holidays.
Everyone
and
I
will
see
you
all
again.
January
17th.