Continuous Delivery Foundation Technical Oversight Committee, 14 Feb 2023

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A

Okay, let's get started so welcome everyone. This is the CDF.

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Over site committee meeting today is February the 14th. My name is Andrea frickley I work for IBM um and yeah, so feel free to highlight your name in the participant list. If you are in one of the existing list or add yourself into the other attendance list and there's quite a few things on the agenda for today. So let's let's get started, but this really just.

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Me at any time.

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um All right so action items from last meeting: uh first shipwright project representative, so I reached out to the ShopRite project um and we shall have um a representative selected until the next DLC meeting.

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Someone has some feedback, foreign.

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Next for the EOC Deputy chair discussion, we started um last time. Tracy made a proposal, so thanks for that Tracy, um so the proposal put a new Charter text based on the issue here, I, don't know if I'll set the chance to to look at it.

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um Basically, I just read it through, and maybe we can get an agreement on this, so we can move this forward.

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So the current tests text says the TSC Representatives will elect a chair to preside over meetings and sure minutes are taken and drive the TOC agenda with input from the TC representative, who will also serve as their TSC representative, an Inception of the directed found and for an initial one-year term of the chair, and this representative would be kazuka kawakuji, uh so the Inception part has been removed and we have a new text edit. The role of the Deputy chair.

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So sorry, um do you see represented with that chair and Deputy chair, and the role of the Deputy chair is to collaborate with and support the chair in all roles, including presiding over meetings. Ensuring meetings are taken and driving the TOC agenda. At the request of the TSC chair.

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I think it would be important to include the governance board because yeah when we were discussing before it wasn't clear how it would be implemented, uh but I think it would be important to understand whether a coach would be actually given access to the governor's documents to the governance meeting sold the main increase and in such a case a CDF Charter would need an update uh in this text. Well, basically, every Tuesday member can already do to some extent, uh but there are governance formalities which are available in Upstream in uh entities of the foundation.

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Yeah I can go either way on that one uh that comment or like, because I think um that the chair um would probably be able to work it out, so they would be able to interact with the uh the governing board and all the other pieces pretty easily.

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um You know if they have a a Time conflict or something like that. That's usually pretty well sorted out, so I could go either way on that, um if it would make it easier, I would say that we would just have the just. The chair maintain those responsibilities at this point and if we need to um down the road, we come into a situation where the deputy chair does need the same types of access that we address it at that time.

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Do we need to put verbiage in there, though? That just says something about the role of the chair is presided over meetings report to the governing board, comma, ensure and then repeat that for the deputy chair.

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Well, uh since the text that includes all the roles, it's kind of implied even now, uh but uh yeah I- think that it would be important to be the edit to the list if it's a case or maybe, if you agree that it's not a case. Actually, the commented, the exceptions.

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So, just to add to that uh I think Olek brought something important here because, like the current text has this, the Lost part of like holes also served as a TRC representative. The proposed text removes that part which actually makes the governing board part of the charter invalid, like I put the link to chat Andrea. If you can open the charter or if you search for talk representative in the document, you will see what I mean you'll see representative.

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So TRC representative is member of the gardening board.

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Yeah yeah, it sounded really redundant. If you let me um instead.

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I didn't understand why that was there. It was like well, it was obviously a representative if he's on the board. So let me let me go over to that.

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That part of the coma the Chelsea chair is also TRC representative. Then it should be should match to the other parts of the charter.

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That was just my over. That was no not misunderstanding and, on my part, to try to make it more consistent or more concise. I was like. Isn't that redundant? Guess not all right? Let me.

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Remember you can be, you know more explicit, like the Dual City presented to to cdfgb, because that part makes it more explicit.

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Issue uh Andre, would you mind putting that issue in the chat.

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Yeah, um it's there.

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So what we should need to do is.

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We can just write another comment here and add to add back in.

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Who will also serve as a Toc representative.

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I use it again.

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Okay, the TLC would like to share in Dougie the tears who will elect a chair to the side of our meetings and sure managed to take and drive who will also serve as a tourist, okay, okay, there. It is now with that that change fatty.

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And if it's not clear as to who is supposed to be the role of the Deputy chair for the governing board,.

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Since I put in there all roles, but we can put uh including presiding over meetings, um updating the governing board.

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I think this looks good to know it still says we start this way and we can, you know, perhaps think of rolling the role of Deputy chair right from. If you see the need.

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Let us look okay, for you. Oleg is a starting point. Yes,.

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Okay, um anyone against.

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Or anyone would like to have more time to think about it. Otherwise we can um yeah. We can submit it to the legal for the change.

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Should we make a motion and vote on it.

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um Yes, we can, um how does that work.

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um I'll motion that the, um where is this in? Is it the charter right, a motion that the to the CDF Charter be updated um to include a Toc Deputy chair with verbiage, as defined in issue number.

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I just called for a vote. Okay, um thank you. So can we vote on it? Anyone in favor can say 58.

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Hey anyone opposed and say, nay, no.

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Okay, I think we did it. Yes,.

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Thanks everyone, proud of you all.

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So the next step is Andrea said uh we will send this to legal for changes and then it will come to board for uh approval.

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It's fati's problem now.

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Thank you, Fati.

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um It's good that we I think this if I'm not mistaken, this is the first motion and vote in to see live like I might be mistaken. All the votes normally took place on the mail list. Olek. Do you remember another word like this.

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Well, uh I wouldn't even support that um I believe that uh all voting either should take an offline channels or they do not exist. But uh yeah, given the consensus among almost every Toc member I, don't mind but yeah normally, at least in Jenkins uh voting always takes place on the landing list on another written Channel.

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Yeah I think we were not in the for the latest version of the text that we discussed this over a couple of meetings.

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So hopefully everyone, members and non-members of the TSC had an opportunity to raise any concern they might have with this proposal.

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You know maybe just mentioning it on slug or just thinking uh the Tuesday members who are not present and that's it.

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Is anyone done present today.

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I think everyone is worse, I think everyone is present today.

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But yeah I will um I can send an email and say put it on slack. But so everyone is is aware of the decision and it.

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All right thanks, everyone uh yeah moving forward in dangerous time. uh One item we discussed last meeting was about the Azure subscription for artelius, and specifically the ortules website was affected and I know that their teles has been website at latest back online on that, if I was online on Netflix after the meeting I don't know if there is any other status update on that.

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um So, yes, we are all set on defy with the website and the documentation and our Azure subscription has been reinstated, but the Linux Foundation was still having issues with Microsoft on the invoicing part, but the the Linux Foundation was going to figure that out with Microsoft. So we're good.

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Thank you, everybody. On the help with that.

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Great that this is solved thanks, Steve for the update next silicon github's gone, but you want to mention is yeah.

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Cfp was closed Friday last week and the program committee has been reading the talks and the the schedule will be announced week of March 10 if I am not mistaken, but more importantly, because we have project Representatives here we will have a demo theater CDF Port there and we will share a spreadsheet to sign up for demo. Theater and demo theater will be located in the foyer together with the sponsor boots, and all the projects will get 15 minutes to present their projects like either project updates or ask people to join and contribute their projects.

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We will share that spreadsheet with Outreach committee project Representatives as well. So please make sure that your project gets a slot there to present the project. So this will not go through cfp. This will directly be a revealed by the program. Content. Most likely will be approach assuming it is a project presentation.

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So whenever you get that email, please sign up to spreadsheet, because Source will be first come first sort boot will be similar to previous year cdcon. So we will need volunteers to you, know, uh work with the boats. Talk about their project. Talk about their um talk about CDF and represent our community and again the time slots will be given first come first sort and finally, we are working on identifying logistics for the project Summits.

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Unfortunately, we have two days for the event and we are trying to find slot for uh projects, so they can meet with their maintainers contributors and have an hour or two discussions about their project and it will be similar. Spreadsheet will be shared and first come first serve for that one as well, but yeah, more information TBD. Hopefully in a week or two once we have, the provision schedule worked out. Maybe.

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Do we have a forecast about the number of participants, a number of sponsors on the size of the conference, yeah.

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In the sponsorship prospectus, the number uh there is 500 plus for attendees and for sponsors I. Don't exactly remember how many platinum goals you know. Startup sponsors.

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Maybe uh I can put the sponsorship Prospect, so you can.

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Javascript part, so the collocated event. No, it's not JavaScript.

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This is github's Corner, oh and cdcon, together, yeah, so 500.

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Okay, thank you.

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Okay, again, more information will be available, maybe beginning of March, once the schedule. Provisional schedule is available, yeah because.

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uh Well, it's quite important because uh yeah the budgets are tight and, for example, I know the teams struggle to secure budgets even for key conferences like Cube corner fostom, from someone with Avengers speaking and the drink is coming into. So this way you asked so to see what day we could secure something quickly.

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Next topic or any other question on silicon and githubscon.

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Okay, fatty, do you want to mention the city.

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Yeah quickly, yeah uh I'm sure you have seen uh on the slack channel the awards, nominations are open and if you click that link, you will get four uh issues that please nominate the community members who are doing good work within CDF, and these are only CDF Awards and for for project Awards. The projects are running those Awards process stem cells and they will probably have similar issues and corresponding requesters within uh project setup organizations. So this the other important part about CDF horses.

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Like end user company, nominations will be done by Google form, so we will be sending a Google form to Toc members and please nominate end user companies via that form and the last Point uh in the past. It wasn't clear who will be voting for CDF Awards now this year the voting will be done by techno side committee members, Outreach committee members and project Representatives.

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So we know who will be voting for the awards and you will get another Google form to cast your what for the winners, so that is Awards and the next topic is actually relate this one. uh We need volunteers to help us running the awards as elections and, if anyone volunteers to become a worse officer or election officer just either, you can State your interests during this meeting or reach out to me on Slack.

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So you'll help us to check the nominations, check the election results and if someone comes and asks if these hours process or election process run according to the process, you document, then hopefully you can help us with that, because you'll be part of reviewing nominations and election and Awards results.

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Thanks fatty, what is the deadline for that? For adding those.

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uh For elections, we have some time I think the next election will happen in April, so maybe buy. uh Let me quickly check the awards. uh Deadline to nominations or denominations will be closed March. So if we can have this settled by February 28th next you'll see meeting that would be awesome. Then we can include the officers in corresponding mail list.

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What I'm looking for upon.

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And this is very light uh role because we are running the awards and elections processes, so this person or persons will ensure the sanctity of the process Awards and elections and oversee. But you know hours and elections. Processes are run by the book.

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Okay thanks any question on this all right moving forward in the interests time, uh so we have a presentation today and our speaker is Christopher Robinson. Thank you for joining us today. Is that a good time for you to present perfect so I.

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So that you may share, if you would like to.

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I would love to. Can you see me and see my screen and hear me? Yes,.

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Excellent well, uh thank you for the opportunity to come talk to you today. My name is Chris Robinson AKA, krobe I work with the open source security foundation on numerous working groups and sigs and I'm part of their technical advisory committee and I'm. Here today, uh at the request of Tracy, where she said that you folks are going through um some in some parallel uh efforts and we she thinks that some of these uh topics I share today, may be inspiring to this group. So I'm going to talk about the diagrammer society.

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It is a group of volunteers that are part of the open, ssf and we're trying to solve uh one core problem. It's difficult to know what the open ssf is about, what it's doing and how to participate.

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So a group of us got together and we started talking about this problem and we presented a series of proposed diagrams or views ways to represent our foundation, all the activities and trying to show how everything operates together as part of our foundation.

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um First thing we realized is that no one view is going to address all of the viewpoints. uh We've shown this to several groups within the foundation, and each group has a slightly different perspective. They want different things would like to see slightly different information, so we decided, at the end of the day, we're going to need to produce multiple pictures, multiple diagrams with which to kind of illustrate how the foundation is set up, how we operate and how our different pieces uh work together.

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So I'm sharing with you, these will be a series of preliminary pictures mock-ups that, as my constituents find Value in we're, going to go forth and refine just a handful of these uh first off, and this is the view our governing board liked a lot. This is a hierarchy view, so anyone that works in a big company and understands what an organizational chart is.

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So this kind of mocks that up so at the top of the foundation, is our governing board, our technical advisory committee and then below that we have all of our working groups and sigs, and we have a concept called Associated projects. So a view like this just kind of very tactically shows structurally how we're organized and ideally the final diagram. So as a viewer might look at this diagram and maybe they click on the tack and it would show more information about the working groups.

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So if somebody cared about what the security tooling group was doing, you could potentially hover over or click on this, and it would expand to show relevant information about the security tooling working group.

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Another view that actually appealed to our end user group and some of the developers we've shown is called bubbles.

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Essentially, we would pick some type of iconography a circle, and that represents our working groups and we would show all the activities inside each working group so you'll see that there are multiple projects, initiatives and special interest groups inside each of the working groups and then using colors or location. We can show that maybe there's a Affinity or a working relationship between the vulnerability, disclosures group and the end users group. So we might want to move those two bubbles together and then also with colors.

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You can show the maturity of what stage the life cycle these different efforts are in, um but this is, you know a potential way you can represent the work of the foundation.

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Another one which received quite a lot of interest- and we think might be of interest to this group- is by picking a specific type of process, and in this view we picked a CI CD Pipeline and we laid over top of that generic pipeline, all of the working groups and sigs and projects and initiatives, and basically most developers can relate to what CI CD is how it functions and now I can take a look at I'm in the build phase.

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So to speak of my work today and you can see that web application definition from the tooling group is relevant, potentially the All-Stars project and maybe salsa are relevant to that particular stage of the life cycle. So you can kind of take a look using that process as the metaphor to show where to get more information.

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Another view is picking a software development life cycle Circle and this particular view you could show the simple Circle and show basically using a generic sdl here, how our working groups line up and then potentially, as you hovered over any one of these bubbles inside the circle, it would blow out this view to show you more information about, like the securing software repos working group, for example, if you were hovering over here and um uh this one's seed, if people understand what sdlc is, has received some good comments um and as I mentioned, all of these diagrams are draft, and one of the final steps is we need to go through and make sure that this matches user accessibility requirements.

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So if we had anyone with that was colorblind or had special needs around Graphics, we'll make sure that we accommodate those types of viewers, but basically we're just trying to illustrate with a quick and dirty diagram to show um the theater of the potential another process.

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You could take that my drawing tool failed me on is a devsecops infinity loop, so a technique you can use is what's called race tracking, so you could take that uh devsecops Pipeline and you know, there's seven main stages or uh phases of that Pipeline, and then you can take smaller arrows within that diagram and illustrate what working groups are relevant.

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So, for example, we feel the best practices working group is relevant across all stages of a devsec Ops life cycle, where the vulnerability disclosure working group potentially may only be relevant to people that are focused on release configured monitor as an example, foreign.

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Is probably going to leverage as we're going through and ensuring the consistency of our working groups is something called a mind map, so we loaded our foundation information into a tool, and this becomes very dense very quickly. Where there's a lot of information, you have to drill down to kind of see, but you can show relationships. You can tag things using mind map you can show affiliations and we noticed when we went through this exercise that we had, for example, a lot.

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We had several working groups that hadn't finished, uh approving their Charter or several working groups that didn't have a readme landing page. So this tactically is helping us March through the foundation to understand where we operationally need to get things consistent. So our members and external parties can you know, get that consistent experience across all of our projects.

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Another view that potentially could be used is using personas, so we picked open source developer and as an open source developer. You know they have a couple problems. We felt from a security perspective. They were, they would need some assistance with. They want to understand how to write more secure code. Well, if that's the case, then we would route them towards the best practices working group or if they care about scanning their code. We have a tooling working group. We also have two project scorecards and all-stars that are relevant to that particular activity.

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So if our constituents found value in this type of diagram, we could curate a list of personas and then start to work on user stories and then show how our efforts map to and help solve, those particular problems.

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um The next Viewpoint we showed was, we have a our attack, has a vision statement that has four areas, so we felt that might be interesting to show the vision and then start to align our different work groups and projects and sigs and everything to those particular elements of the vision. So if someone was coming in from like our Tac landing page- and they saw the vision, they could click and be able to be routed towards these particular things that support those components of the vision, a new one.

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We just added in many of the Linux Foundation projects, have something like this. It's called landscape. Anyone from the United States is familiar with NASCAR racing. The cars will have a series of stickers from the sponsors, so we also called this stickers. So we divided the work up into three categories. Plan, build and run any of the categories.

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People could pick any category they wanted to, but we just use this for the example, and then we showed that our development best practices working group is aligned with the plan uh plan, ideas and also our identifying security threats and the diagram of society. All kind of aligned towards planning, and then we can show the project badges the emblems of each of those and then allow someone. If a viewer is interested in learning about the concise guides, they could click that and be directly routed to that information on the foundation landing page.

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Then we did that same mapping for the build and run. So this is something that's widely used that we've got a lot of a positive response of this particular diagram. So this is probably one of the ones we'll use moving forward and then one I didn't have time to get to is another very common concept. Is the trail map where a metaphor is used and in this case a map like someone's traveling and they're going on a journey, so we could take that similar thing for our foundation.

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Is we figure out uh what are the highest value projects or working groups that help plot that Journey on the map and then hire a designer to draw the map and throw everything out there?

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So hopefully uh this is of interest to you all and that's the end of my presentation, I'll be glad to answer any questions um respond, anything uh any feedback you might have.

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That was brilliant thanks. Grace you're, very welcome um I do have one question, so is the idea to to uh the data all the information stored in some machine, readable format and then generate this diagram out of it um well or.

H

From an operational standpoint, we would love to like throw this information into a yaml file and have something automatically plot it. Unfortunately, those types of tools um are very useful for, like the landscape or the hierarchy, but don't lend themselves to some of the other designed formats.

H

So yes, we would like that like to have that machine, readable, but we're thinking about you know leveraging these diagrams on our landing pages, our Tac web page and then also in the foundation Literature Like training conference presentations that type of stuff, but yeah it if we can automate it we'd like that, but some of the some of these things we might have I got like a trail map. We probably have to hire a professional artist to draw it and that doesn't lend itself necessarily as well to automation.

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Yeah yeah, absolutely I, understand. Yeah I was thinking um along the lines of if we build some of these diagrams, but maybe not to trade them up, but um we build some like hierarchical diagram or some very structure of the foundation. The project and so forth has done when we have a new project or we have a new C. We knew people coming in or out so we'll need to update those.

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So I was trying to understand whether that's something that would you know, go and hire some designer every time we need to do an update, or is there like tools? We can use to delete ourselves or.

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The the hierarchy is very simple and can be done with open source tools um and then I can track back on our notes and just uh give that to Tracy there's several tools that are available. That's very easy! If that view is appealing and then the Linux Foundation owns a tool that does this Landscaping, so you just need to decide like the categories, the three big, a horizontal stripes and then you can very easily plot those things in there and that lends itself to pretty simple maintenance going forward. You just need to get the graphics.

H

All right, thank you. You're welcome any other questions or comments.

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um Another question: would you be able to share these slides um with.

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The group did I posted a link in your uh in the meeting, notes and I will help provide the URL here in the chat.

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You're way ahead of me thanks you're.

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And um all these diagrams are listed are in up in our GitHub repository. So if you wanted to review a particular one, you can go to our repo and look at it and kind of zoom in the mind map, especially because that is just uh virtually unreadable on the page. But when you actually open it up with a mind map tool, it's pretty powerful.

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Was inspiring for you all, and you can find some way to represent yourselves through something like this.

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um One question: would you foresee some of this overlapping between the open ssf and the CDF.

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Possibly um especially things like our supply chain groups, or maybe like developer best practices, they're, probably some really good knowledge that you all have. That um directly relates to some of our work yeah, because.

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We have we're focused.

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On security, not necessarily the development process, but.

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um Right right because.

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Like uh best practices on our side and stuff like that, so um that's why I was curious if, if this could be extended to expand.

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Absolutely yeah once we pick a model, and so if we showed our best practices, we could somehow represent other foundations that have related information like we work a lot with the cncf right and the larger LF and I think the CDF would be very easy to kind of plug in hey if you care about best practices, here's how to secure it. But then, if you want to know how to specifically, you know operationally configure your pipeline or how to do uh secure containers in the cloud. Here's our other friends that do these activities right.

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Okay, cool thanks, you're welcome.

H

Well, I I really appreciate your time. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out afterwards or you know, uh leave a comment in our repo. We have issues in PRS that you could file if you have want any more information or need help.

A

All right, um yeah, thanks again uh Chris for uh crazy for your time and.

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If there are no more, if there are no more questions, uh then we can continue with the with the agenda.

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Okay, um yeah. So next next item briefly um seek updates. I just wanted to share this bit in the current documentation for sigs. We have documented that we expect updates from seeks to the TOC mailing list, at least quarterly um and I. Don't think this is happening today, um so I was going to propose that we kind of resume our quarterly updates from seek, and we could do it from the Middle East or in the form of the presentation to this POC or both, possibly um so yeah.

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That's so that we are up to date with uh what everything is up to. We have that information. Possibly we can include it in a very nice diagram.

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um And yeah, we can also decide we can see. We have more information to decide whether seek should maybe be uh I, don't know collapse together or we need a new seek. Your working group or sake is not active anymore and so forth. So we can take decision. Inform decision on that.

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And yeah, so uh I was going to to send out maybe um emails to the to the seek chairs.

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Inform me about this and trying to set up a schedule uh for for updates similar to to what I started. Setting up for project updates.

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Okay, but let me know if you have any thoughts on this um any concerned and otherwise I will go ahead. The.

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Only thing I would say is once we uh get time slots coming in from the different sigs that if it there's some way, we could update the shared calendar. So folks know when somebody's gonna be presenting, I I, don't know. If that's going to be possible because of the way the the calendar. You know it's kind of generic.

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um You know, but that's uh I, think it's a really good idea. Steve I'll check whether it's possible to to make individual updates to to the events.

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um Yeah exactly.

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Yeah, that's a great idea, thanks Steve yeah.

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The question about sponsors for the six like I, don't think our sponsor for the interoperability Sig, for example, as part of the TOC anymore. So who would would it be just be one of the chairs or something that provides the updates?

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A great question: Melissa thanks.

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uh I I forgot to mention that and I I also noticed that I don't think we we retract the information about who the sponsor is and for sure we don't update the sponsor when the sponsor leaves that you see.

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um So. According to our current Charter, there must be a sponsor and the sponsor is kind of responsible for um owning this kind of activity, making sure that there is an update and sent to the TOC um helping scheduling the presentation.

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Yeah I guess we don't have good process in place for updating a sponsor. Do we.

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I, don't think we have.

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Then you will want to take a step. This may be making a proposal for this um I think we can keep it pretty lightweight. Maybe we can end the next meeting and ask for volunteers. Make sure that every seek is a sponsor.

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Yeah I think that's reasonable.

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So you can add interoperabilities immediately to that group. We need to update ours for sure.

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Is probably in the same situation.

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I can check the others Andrea and add them to this list. If we need.

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And I guess related to this about safe security and say Chinese localization. um How do you want to do to cover these or even me, to.

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Secretary of six Chinese localization, those ones yeah, yeah or yeah, it's okay, so I think this topic came up during the six of us watching meeting last week there was some confusion around like what happened to six security and so on and I. Remember uh this, like six security was discussed in the past, but there wasn't an official decision to Archive the stake, and if you check the TOC report, you will notice one of the documents say: six Securities, archived and the other documents say: six security is still current sake.

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So the question here about six security is like: should we have a clear decision within the TRC captured in the minutes so archive the six secrets? So we can update the documentation and perhaps archive the reports and our characters like Channel, because sometimes some people show up in the slack Channel saying hi. No one is responding because they are not aware to see this archived and the six Chinese localization is similar situation. I, don't remember.

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When was the last time we heard back from that, seek, it looks like the Sikh is not active, so we may want to Archive that sick as well. Officially, so you know make sure people don't think no one cares their eyes and hellos.

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Thanks fatty um yeah I think we we have a reduced group. uh No, but I can send.

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I can send this also over the mailing list, um give it a deadline for next meeting and then we can proceed with the archival. It makes sense.

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All right I'll take that as a yes and I'll send emails.

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Okay, um so quickly, a few last few minutes last couple of things I wanted to mention.

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um In terms of project updates, we discussed in the past, we should have presentation from the different projects on a regular based basis, so to manage that I set up a table um here in the meeting notes on the top and with some space for um a monthly presentation. So it would be every other meeting every other Toc meeting from the different projects. So we had the first presentation on City events with December 2022 that I gave and I put the link to the slides.

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um We had the presentation scheduled already by Christy for text tecton in specifically for the area of salsa, tecton and salsa. Christie asked me what it would be asked whether it would be a right to do updates also on specific areas of a project which I think it makes sense, because we have a lot of possible slots projects to present and we have a presentation. Another presentation scheduled for City events and one for jankinex and yeah I'll keep asking project representative year.

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Endless luck to please um add themselves to the schedule so that we can have a regular stream of presentations.

A

And it can do the same as Steve asked to to add them to their calendar. Okay, and the other thing about project updates I wanted to mention, is that I set up I started setting up a project on GitHub the track, the work that we do for integrating City events and different tools.

A

So this is a follow-up to the topic that Robert brought up about the importance of integrating CD events and tools, so I got a tab for Jenkins, Jenkins, vinegar, detecting and so forth. So we can see in every tab. What are the activities that are going on?

A

I would like the dependency on CD event side, and what are the external tasks that have been implemented like for Spinnaker? Here we you can find the link to the RSC, which has been worked on.

A

Okay, I think the last item would be a review of the.

B

A

That we only have four minutes left um so I and now it's you can get much progress on that. So maybe I'll just open this the the floor for any other update or question or comments on the attendees.

A

All right sounds like that's all for today, but thanks everyone for joining good, to see everyone and see you not earlier in a couple of weeks, 28th of February. Our next meeting have a.

B

Great rest of your day, everyone.

G

Thanks Andrea bye thanks.