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A
B
It's
got
all
I've
mentioned.
He
won't
be
able
to
join
today.
Unfortunately,
let's
create
another
minute
to
see
very
more
people
joining
them.
We
can
get
started.
B
All
right,
well,
it's
very
fast
I
would
say:
let's
get
started,
maybe
more
of
us
will
join
along
the
way
so
welcome
everyone
to
the
tocc.
The
fdoc
meeting
today
is
January
the
31st
and
yeah.
My
name
is
Andrea
fritolay
I
work
for
IBM.
B
No,
but
that's
a
great
Point
thanks,
Robert
I,
mean
I,
think
yeah
they're
they're
recorded
automatically
in
the
meeting
setup.
So
it's.
F
B
Okay
right
so
first
thing:
I
just
wanted
to
spend
a
couple
of
words
very
briefly
on
the
agenda.
B
I
updated
a
template
slightly
to
have
like
list
of
TLC
members
and
project
representative
and
what
I
did
for
lost
time
is
like
graying
out
people
who
are
not
participating
in
the
participating
to
the
meeting
on
that
day,
and
then
we
have
a
space
where
other
attendees
to
to
sign
in
if
they
would
like.
So
to
do
so.
B
I
hope
this
works.
This
format
works.
G
B
Yeah
but
I'll
take
care
of
updating
the
the
list
here.
If
that's
okay
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
agenda,
is
that
I
mean
this
time?
I
prepared
a
bit
of
last
time
last
minute,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
if
it
would
be
beneficial
for
folks
to
have
the
agenda
prepared
a
few
days
in
advance
so
that
people
have
time
to
preview
it
and
prepare
for
the
meeting
before
the
meeting.
C
A
H
Really
really
depends
on
your
schedule
and
yeah
how
how
much
you
want
to
put
into
keeping
track
of
it,
but
it's
out
there.
Everybody
could
always
look
at
it.
We
generally
have
the
agenda
set
up
at
the
end
of
this
meeting.
We'll
know
what
we
need
to
talk
about
it
for
the
next,
so.
B
B
All
right:
well,
if
I
can
do
it
and
try
to
prepare
a
crystal
skeleton
or
some
put
some
items
beforehand,
and
then
we
can
always
add
things
on
the
fly
as
needed.
Thanks.
B
Okay,
well
generally,
try
to
put
something
in
advance,
but
I
think
pitching
days,
of
course,
always
open
for
people
to
add
the
big
thing.
All
right,
I
don't
want
to
spend
more
time
on
that.
B
From
last
week,
action
item
reviews
there
were
a
couple
of
things
to
find
a
shipwreck
project
representative
which
is
still
pending
so
I'm
bad.
Sorry
about
that
and
create
an
issue
about
adding
a
project
map
that
I
created.
B
So
this
is
related
to
what
we
discussed,
that
it
would
be
useful
to
have
a
map
for
a
project
and
CDF
project
how
to
contribute
to
them.
What
are
the
communication
channel
for
people
shown
in
our
community
and
looking
for
kind
of
indications
where,
where
to
go,
to
contribute
or
communicate
to
the
various
projects.
H
You
know
I'm
on
the
the
governance
committee
for
the
open
ssf
and
there
they
created
a
what
they
call
the
the
diagram
society
and
they're,
creating
some
really
interesting
ways
to
represent
that
information.
H
We
might
look,
maybe
when
they
get
a
little
farther
or
maybe
I,
can
even
ask
the
diagram
Society
if
they'd
be
okay.
If,
if
somebody
from
here
took
a
look
at
what
they're
doing,
because
I
think
it's
really
interesting,
it's
a
it's
a
much
better
way
to
show
the
information
and
could
help
open
source
projects
and
any
of
our
working
groups
be
more
transparent
when
they're
we're
meeting
and
what
they're
working
on.
I
H
And
I
can
ask
crab
if
he
will,
if
he'd
be
willing
to
present
what
he's
done
here.
I
think
he'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
it
because
he's
worked.
They've
worked
really
hard
on
it.
H
A
B
So
is
that,
is
there
a
link
or
something
we
can
look.
H
At
not
yet
they
they,
he
just
presented
it
to
the
committee.
H
C
A
C
H
He
goes
by
crop
c-r-o-b.
Maybe
I'll
send
an
email
to
him
and
ask
him
if
he
would
be
willing
to
present
here.
H
C
B
All
right
yeah,
thanks
for
that,
so
hopefully
that
was
all
the
action
items
from
last
week.
B
All
right
yeah,
hopefully
we
can,
we
can
get
an
introduction
representation
by
them
in
one
of
the
next
meetings.
B
All
right,
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
quick
update
on
on
Json
because
we
discussed
Google
summer
of
code
last
well
last
meeting,
so
we
discussed
about
Jesus
during
the
Outreach
committee
meeting
with
Laurie
and
the
other
folks
there
as
well,
and
so
what
I
learned
there
is
that
the
Jenkins
teams
every
year
it
spent
the
invest
several
months
preparing
for
the
submission
of
the
mentoring
organization,
but
you
suck.
B
So
it
seems
like
a
very
late
time
of
the
year
to
now
for
for
projects
or
for
CDF
to
to
start
preparing
a
submission
for
American
mentoring.
Org
I
mean
the
deadline
is
just
a
few
days
away,
but
what
is
definitely
still
possible
for
2023
is
to
submit
project
ideas
for
Jenkins.
So
there's
ideas
of
things
that
we
could
do
as
part
of
Jenkins.
B
That's
definitely
still
possible
and
also
what
we
discussed
is
that
for
for
next
year,
it
would
be
great
to
have
some
maybe
guidelines
and
timelines
that
we
can
share
with
the
projects
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
is
if,
as
a
Toc,
we
could
have
driving
this
work
and
collaborating
maybe
with
the
Jenkins
Focus.
They
have
plenty
of
experience
in
this
area
and
create
some
kind
of
guidelines,
or
at
least
a
timeline.
The
project
should
follow
if
they're
interested
in
collaborating
to
g-soc.
J
J
Awesome
so
we
met
with
Alyssa
and
jean-mark
and
there
are
going
to
be
four
sort
of
infographics
that
we're
going
to
create
the
first
one
we
want
to
do
is
just
a
high
level
like
what
is
gstock
and
how
do
you
get
involved?
J
The
next
one
will
probably
be
for
org
admins
one
for
mentors
and
one
for
candidates
they
have
like
Andreas
was
saying
they
have
six
years
of
doing
this
behind
their
belt
and
then
the
big
thing
that
we
are
going
to
be
working
on
is
they
have
an
an
org
admin
like
checklist,
but
it's
more
like
a
guidebook,
and
so
that's
something
that's
going
to
take
a
while
to
compile
and
everything
will
have
links
back
to
Jenkins
g-soc,
like
sort
of
you
know
on
their
website,
like
they
have
an
entire
like
section
on
their
website.
J
That's
dedicated
to
g-soc.
So
that's
the
big
project,
but
we're
going
to
start
with
smaller
incremental
sort
of
one-pagers
to
to
give
back
to
the
community
and
to
the
projects
and,
like
Andrea,
said
like
working
with
Jenkins
to
kind
of
formulate
this
out,
because
it
does
take
like
a
full
year
to
to
be
ready
for
this.
J
Just
yeah,
let
me
let
me
grab
the
link
and
I'll
put
it
in
the
slack,
because
we
have
two
working
dogs.
There's
a
folder
on
the
CDF
drive.
One
is
for
like
just
the
general
plan
and
then
one
is
sort
of
I.
Think
the
the
framework
of
how
the
first,
like
sort
of
infographic's
gonna
go.
We
just
met,
so
we
haven't
made
much
progress,
but
you
can
at
least
see
like
the
meeting
notes,
and
you
know
we're
looking
for
people
to
participate.
So
it's
not
just
going
to
be.
J
B
Yeah,
no,
that's
really
great
to
see
and
yeah
as
as
I
was
saying,
I
think
it's.
We
should
promote
this
work
as
much
as
possible
once
it's
further.
It's
ready
as
a
Toc
as
well
make
sure
that
projects
are
aware
about
this.
B
All
right
moving
forward
next
on
the
item
on
the
agenda,
I
had
the
the
proposal
for
Deputy
chair,
which
we
discussed
last
time,
I
think
generally
that
it
was
positive
elements
I
think
do
you
think
you
had
some
some
comment
on
the
issue
about
whether
the
size,
the
size
of
the
of
the
group
warrants
having
a
deputy
chair,
and
hopefully
it
work
for
for
decision
making.
B
So
I
put
some
answer
to
that
comment
in
in
the
ticket,
but
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
in
case
the
the
chair
is
is
not
there,
so
if
I'm,
not
there
or
if
you
just
in
future
chair,
it's
not
it's
not
there.
For
someone
who
is
able
to
to
maintain
the
the
agenda
and
facilitate
the
meeting
and
in
terms
of
decision
making
I
think
we
work
by
consensus
of
the
group.
So
we
have
a
quorum
I
think
we
can
go
on
with
that,
and
yeah
I
think
we.
B
We
need
to
Define
how
this
would
work,
but
if
a
chair
becomes
unavailable
for
a
longer
period,
for
whatever
reason,
sickness,
paternity
of
maternities
or
any
other
reason,
then
the
deputy
chair
might
be
able
to
take
over
the
role
in
a
little.
A
new
election
can
be
made,
and
that
would
help
with
continuity
on
that
role.
H
So
we
probably
need
to
update
the
I,
don't
know
where
we
have
the
our
kind
of
our
Charter.
Where
do
we
have
that
in
the
kind
of
our
rules?
Is
it
just
on
our
readme.
B
B
K
K
H
So
why
don't
I
don't
I?
Do
this,
what
I'm
partly
responsible
for
this,
because
I
had
recommended
it?
Let
me
make
it
look
at
the
TOC
Charter
around
the
cdf's
charter
around
the
TOC
and
I'll
share
a
Google
doc
with
what
we
want
to
change
in
terms
of
language
and
I'll
share
it
with
everybody.
We
could
make
comments
on
it
and
get
it
to
so.
We
can
get
it
over
to
the
board.
G
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
idea
of
a
deputy
chair,
just
curious
on.
What's
the
other
communities
around
us
of
our
similar
size,
Hassan
practice
and
are
we
it
will,
will
there
be
clear
delegation,
mothers
defined
or
is
it
always
by
consensus?
If
the
chair
is
not
there?
Is
it
like
every
alternate
meeting
if
the
chair
is
missing
and
the
deputy
chair
act
on
behalf,
so
matters.
I
That
sounds
good
if
I
remember
correctly
and
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
think
we
initially
brought
this
up,
because
we
were
talking
about
maybe
a
completely
different
issue
and
it
was
more
about
onboarding,
a
new
chair
and
maybe
Andrea.
You
can
speak
a
little
bit
about
your
experience
with
onboarding
and
how
that
worked
out
for
you.
Maybe
this
is
already
resolved,
or
maybe
we
need
to
address
onboarding
issues
separately,
but
I
was
reading
one
of
Robert's
comments
on
the
issue
and
he
has
a
valid
concern.
B
Yeah
thanks
Melissa
and
also
Brett
Robert's
comments
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
a
valid
concern
as
well
and.
B
Well,
it's
it's
all
new
for
me
as
a
chair,
I
guess
it
probably
would
have
been
beneficial
to
to
have
some.
You
know
transmission
some
transition
time
where
maybe
I
was
looking
forward
to
become
a
chair
for
next
time,
and
you
know
looking
closely
at
what
being
a
chair
would
mean
and
then
taking
on
the
role,
so
that
I
think
that
would
have
been
helpful,
and
that
said,
I
think
that
the
group
here
is
great
and
so
everyone
we
are
supporting
each
other.
B
So
I
think
everyone
makes
me
feel
very,
very
good
about,
even
if
I'm
new,
on
this
role
so
and
I
think
we
are
able
to
to
make
some
progress
over
here.
I
I
E
E
I
I
think
it
will
help
in
selecting
new
chairs
in
the
future
too,
because
it's
difficult
to
know
how
much
time
it
requires
and
what
what
is
exactly
required
of
a
person.
So
you
may
have
a
group
on
the
TOC
where
nobody
wants
to
do
it
due
to
time
constraints
or
whatever.
So
it
would
be
a
you
know
better
for
helping
to
make
that
decision
on
whether
to
even
apply
for
it.
H
B
H
And
I
just
put
the
link
where
you
can,
edit
that
it's
section
F
so
I
just
have
section
F
in
the
Google
doc
I'll
make
some
updates
to
it,
and
anybody
who
wants
to
make
updates
there
can
do.
I
B
B
All
right
anything
else
on
the
on
this
topic
from
anyone.
B
All
right
next
topic
is
a
member
project
benefits
an
update
on
that
work.
We
discussed
last
week
that
it
would
be
useful
to
have
a
nice
and
comprehensive
project
benefit
document
to
share
with
projects
and
prospective
projects
yeah.
So
we
we
met
with
Vanessa.
If
you
want
to.
Would
you
like
to
provide
an
update
and
we'll
ask.
I
Sure
Andrea
started
some
of
this
by
making
great
categories
for
us
to
be
concerned
about
you
can
see
them.
If
you
click
on
that
hack,
ID
link,
we
started
from
scratch
without
looking
at
much
of
anything.
Just
kind
of
you
know,
starting
from
Ground
Zero,
it
turns
you
know.
We
took
a
look
at
cncf
as
an
example
to
see
what
they
had
and
see
what
was
attractive
there.
What
we
might
want
to
include
and
some
of
the
questions
that
we
had
and
turns
out.
I
We
also
have
a
project
Services
webpage
on
the
CDF
site
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
pull
that
up
Andrea
that
might
be
helpful
to
look
at
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
something
out.
We
missed
it
completely,
which
is
okay,
because
it
was
a
necessary
exercise
anyway.
So
we'll
do
some
merging
of
what's
already
here
and
the
new
stuff
that
we
came
up
with.
I
Maybe
it
needs
laid
out
differently,
one
this
service
desk
button
that
shows
right
in
the
middle.
We
we
need
to
do
some
work.
There
explain
more
about
what
that
is
and
what
that's
for,
but
one
of
the
reasons
we
might
have
missed
it
is
this
is
under
this
technology
tab
and
it
just
doesn't
seem
like
a
good
label,
it's
kind
of
lost
in
the
mix.
I
Another
thing
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
we
have
a
big
button,
a
become
a
member
button.
I
think
that's
primarily
for
corporate
members,
but
maybe
we
should
have
another
button
for
project
members,
because
I
think
it
gets
a
little
bit
lost
that
projects
don't
have
to
pay
a
membership
fee,
and
that
might
be
something
we
can
help
when
projects
come
looking
at
our
foundation.
C
C
I
I
C
A
way
for
projects
to
kind
of
like
try
to
do
recruitment
through
that.
I
I
G
F
K
No,
that's
I
was
just
going
to
say
like
as
Minister
you
mentioned
like
once
this
document
is,
you
know,
finalized.
We
can
take
all
these
things
like
adding
a
button
to
website
or
creating
a
PDF.
You
can
send
them
all
together
to
link
Foundation
creative
services
and
get
drafts,
especially
for
the
PDF
grade.
Then
we
can
bring
them
back
to
the
toc4
review
before
we
approve
so
yeah.
Whenever
they
are
done,
we
can
take
the
rest
to
the
creative
service.
B
All
right
moving
forward
in
the
interest
of
time
cdcon
github's
con
Patty.
Would
you
like
to
provide
some
updates
on
this
topic.
K
Yes,
I
see,
Lori
is
with
us
as
well.
She
is
our
program.
Community
chairs,
I
will
just
say:
the
cfp
is
open
until
Friday
next
week,
February
10th.
Hopefully
this
gets
in
your
proposals
and
yeah
like
I'm,
very
excited
with
at
least
based
on
what
we
have
seen
in
the
proposals.
It
looks
pretty
good
and
then
I,
let
Laurie
to
summarize
the
discussion
and
early
bird
talks.
Maybe
we
just
announced
them
by
the
way
yeah.
J
Yeah
so
I
will
say
this
is
a
really
strong
program
committee,
they're
very
engaged.
We
have
all
projects
and
end
users
represented.
We
have
a
good
diverse.
We
have
diversity
on
multiple
fronts,
not
just
for
like
a
Dei
initiative,
but
in
terms
of
experience
and
what
people
are
using
for
tools,
but
that
was
one
of
the
the
main
criteria.
J
When
we
looked
for
people
to
be
on
the
committee
was
that
we
had
all
projects
represented,
so
there
wouldn't
be
a
skewing
one
way
or
another
with
a
certain
project,
thinking
that
they
had
more
FaceTime.
If
you
will
so,
we
did
just
launch
our
blog
post
talking
about
the
five
early
bird
sessions
and
it's
really
exciting
to
see
what
was
selected.
There
was
a
good
hierarchy
and
a
lot
of
discussion,
so
the
first
one
and
I'm
gonna
put
the
link
in
the
in
the
slack.
J
So
y'all
can
see
it.
Oh
sorry,
it's
my
vet
and
I'm,
not
home.
So
oh
well,
okay,
yeah!
So
the
first
one
is
a
panel
and
we're
going
to
work
with
galtham
to
to
select
some
panelists.
But
we're
really
excited
about
this
sort
of
how
you
balance
business
value
with
speed.
We
had
a
really
good
discussion
about
it
on
our
call
Fidelity
as
an
end
user,
they're
doing
a
lot
with
multiple
projects.
We
have
a
blog
post
coming
out
on
a
POC
that
they're
using
with
Jenkins
and
City
events.
J
So
we
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
good
talk
and
it
follows
up
what
they
did
at
the
mini
Summit,
which
was
great.
Then
we
have
a
security
featured
talk
about
tecton,
with
two
very
well
known
speakers,
which
is
exciting
both
from
Google.
J
Then
we're
going
to
be
talking
and
Diving
deep
into
Data
treeverse
is
the
company
Lake
FS
is
I,
believe
their
open
source
project,
but
really
getting
in
dirty
with
the
numbers
and
then
last,
but
by
no
means
least,
we
thought
this
one
was
super
spicy
that
is
Andrew
Fung's
word
because
he
put
blockchain
in
the
title
and
if
you
know
anything
about
Persia,
we
have
been.
J
We
have
been
walking
on
eggshells,
calling
it
an
immutable
transaction
Ledger,
just
like
not
saying
blockchain
at
all,
and
you
went
ahead
and
threw
it
out
there,
which
we
thought
was
cool
and
it's
the
newest
project
added
to
the
CDF.
So
we're
really
excited
to
see
kind
of
what
what
he
comes
up
with
so
again,
these
were
just
the
five
early
birds.
We
had
44
submissions.
J
There
is
a
combo
track
between
get
Ops
and
city
con
and
we're
working
with
their
conference
organizers
to
review
those
independently.
Each
committee
will
review
the
the
ones
for
both
and
then
the
committee
chairs
will
get
together
and
determine
if
it
should
be
a
joint
track
or
if
get
Ops
con
should
take
it
or
cdcon
should
take
it.
Basically,
we
don't
want
to
have
people
not
join
a
session,
because
it
said
it
was
cdcon
and
or
have
said
it
was
get
Ops
con
and
not
city
con.
B
B
Sorry
I
was
just
talking
to
myself
roadmap
review,
I
guess
we
maybe
can
leave
it
last
and
we
have
more
issues
on
the
agenda.
So
City
events,
implementation
in
CDF
project
I'm,
not
sure
who
edit
this.
But
someone
wants
you
to
present
this
topic.
Oh.
E
Hey
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
an
idea
that
I
had
and
run
it
by
Toc
and
get
your
thoughts.
You
know
my
view
is
that
Toca
should
be
the
glue.
That's
tying
all
of
our
projects
together
and
I.
Look
at
CD
events
and
I
absolutely
love
it.
This
idea
that
we
have
a
standard
that
we
can
notify
users
on
things
that
happen
with
our
CD
projects,
to
get
it
going,
though,
to
get
broader
adoption.
E
My
view
is
that
we
should
work
on
having
our
projects
Jenkins,
Spinnaker,
techton,
Jenkins
X,
one
notifying
with
with
you
know,
use
using
the
standard
that
CD
events
has
put
out
and
also
show
an
example
of
this.
My
hope
is
that
having
our
projects
in
CDF
using
CD
events-
one
it's
you
know,
you
know-
creates
a
flywheel
right
eating
our
own
dog
food
drinking,
our
own
champagne.
E
However,
you
want
to
put
it
but
also
I'm,
a
huge
fan
of
fomo
fear
of
missing
out
and
I
think
that,
when
as
a
tool
to
get
change
and
I
think
that
if
we
were
to
able
to
get
these
other
projects
using
CD
events
talking
about
showing
the
benefit
of
it,
that
commercial
projects
start
to
adopt
that
I'm
looking
at
you
know,
harness
octopus
deploy
those
sorts
of
things
and
and
My
Hope
Is
by
showing
value
of
CD
events
in
these
open
source
projects
that
others
start
to
adopt
it
as
well.
E
Like
oh
wow,
we
don't
want
to
miss
out.
You
know
AWS
pipeline.
We
we
have
to
do
this,
azure
devops
those
sorts
of
things,
so
that
was
the
idea
you
know
and
I
wanted
to
get
the
team's
thoughts
on
this.
On
on
how
to
approach
I
I
know,
we've
got
people
from
CD
events
and
these
projects
here
on
this
call
and
I
just
wanted
to
chat
about
it
and
and
get
your
thoughts.
C
I
think
from
like
dear
artillius
point
of
view,
it
may
make
sense
for
CD
events
to
do
a
presentation
that
we
can
kind
of
get
up
to
speed
on
what
they're
doing
and
how
we
could
be
in
involved
from
our
project
perspective
and
looking
at
what
would
be
needed
for
us
to
do
that
type
of
adoption.
You
know
what's
the
effort
just
so,
we
have
an
idea
of
of
how
we
can
fit
it
into
our
roadmap
and
project
plan.
C
Because
I
think
right
now,
a
lot
of
it
is
a
lot
of
folks
like
you
know,
Tracy
and
I
are
aware
of
it,
but
a
lot
of
the
other
contributors
on
our
projects
are
not
aware.
C
F
C
C
F
E
E
B
Yeah
so
I
I
love
your
idea,
Robert
personally
and
I
I
couldn't
agree
more
that
and
we
need
to
get
City
events
in
in
the
tools
you
know
to
gain
more
attractions,
and
indeed
we
are
working
with
some
of
the
tools,
but
we
need
to
do
more
of
that.
So
I
think,
like
the
Steve
ideas
to
get
involved
with
your
keyless
project
represent
what
city
event
is
about
for
sure.
It's
something
that
would
be
really
useful
for
Spinnaker.
B
Actually,
we
have
a
meeting
tonight
with
the
Spinnaker
team
about
an
RFP
to
include
City
events
in
Spinnaker,
so
we
are
going
to
have
some
discussion
with
the
speednecker
team
and
see
the
events
team
about
that.
B
So
we
have
some
interest.
Some
discussion
started
from
Jenkins
folks,
also
they
they
joined
some
a
couple
of
our
City
events
meetings,
so
they're
interested
in
this
for
Jenkins.
There
is
definitely
interest
specially
from
Fidelity
they're
interested
in
adopting
City
events
and
they
use
Jenkins,
so
they
they
definitely
are
interested
in
in
this
feature,
and
hopefully
in
collaborating
making
it
a
reality.
B
Until
now,
the
kind
of
missing
technical
bit
for
both
Spinnaker
and
Jenkins
has
been
the
channel
SDK
for
City
events,
but
we
are
actively
working
on
getting
that
up
to
speed
so
to
remove
that
blocker.
B
So
that's
definitely
part
of
our
it's
it's
under
a
rather
versus
the
events
project,
but
definitely
any
traction
any
help
we
can
get
from
from
the
TOC
from
I.
Think
to
the
CD
events.
Project
would
certainly
be
beneficial
because
we
are
a
small
community,
a
seed
events,
project.
E
Which
one
is
is
you
know
it
kind
of
sounds
like
they're
all
like
okay,
we're
discussing
it,
but
but
who's
really
discussing
it
like
wait,
because
if
we
concentrate
on
all
of
them,
we're
gonna
spread
those
resources
pretty
thin,
but
if
we
were
able
to
show
value
with
one
project
and
then
go
to
the
next
go
to
the
next.
So
what
would
be?
You
know
your
estimation?
The
team's
estimation
like
like
who
is
further
so
long
who's,
most
likely
to
adopt
it,
who
perhaps
has
already
adopted
it.
B
Yeah,
so
I
don't
think
any
project
has
adopted
the
first
release
of
the
of
the
project.
Yet
we
we
had
the
draft
version
adopted
his
experimental
format
in
tecton.
E
B
E
B
No
that's
but
I
think
the
the
work
on
with
the
Spinnaker
team
is
very
so
it's
happening.
So
it's
definitely
something
that
I
think
we
should
continue
pursuing,
and
so
that's
basically
for
sure
in.
E
The
list
right
on
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
join
the
city
event
Sig
next
week.
All
right,
I
think
I
already
put
it
on
my
calendar
chat
with
them,
see
where
Toc
can
help
and
then
offer
that
that
assistance.
My
belief
is
that
if
you
get
success,
one
place
you
just
need
a
spark
to
start
a
fire
and
so
showing
value
showing
that
it
works
again.
It
leads
to
fomo,
because
other
projects
look
at
and
say,
oh
well.
We
should
add
this
as
well
or
it's
easy
to
add.
E
Let's
do
this
if
we're
able
to
get
a
number
of
these
projects,
our
our
projects,
using
CD
events
and
showing
value
and
then
there's
some
kind
of
dashboarding
to
show
this
off
I
think
at
that
point,
reaching
out
to
the
commercial
market
and
saying
hey:
this
is
a
value
or
hopefully
their
customers
start
asking
for
it,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
what
we
really
want.
E
We
want
more
and
more
people
using
these
projects,
bringing
in
more
developers
more
maintainers,
more
contributors
to
improve
it,
create
that
flywheel
so
action
item
for
me,
I'll
join
the
CD
event.
Sig
and
just
ask
that
Community,
where
I
can
be
of
assistance
and
would
happily
take
help
from
anybody
on
this
call
if
you
feel
strongly
about
it.
Thank
you.
D
And
then
we
also
have,
as
Andrea
said,
that
detect
an
implementation
that
is
has
been
has
been
there
for
some
while,
but
it's
not
really
up
to
date
and
I
think
that's
also
something
that
is
hopefully
quite
easy
to
get
in,
don't
be
the
help
of
Technology
contacts.
They're
sorry
with
the
help
of
Andrea
and
his
contacts
there,
of
course,
so
so
I
would
focus
on
Spinnaker
and
tecton.
D
We
have
brought
up
the
idea
to
Jenkins
as
well
to
to
have
a
Google
standard
code
project
implementing
City
events.
We
haven't
really
proposed
it
as
such,
because
that
needs
a
mentor
as
well
in
the
gstop.
So
we
haven't
really
found
that
we
can
afford
that
at
the
moment,
but
having
mentors
for
such
resource
projects
both
for
Jenkins
and
Jenkins
X,
maybe
would
be
one
way
to
go
forward
with
this
as
well.
E
All
right
I,
like
all
of
these
things,
nobody
said
this
is
a
terrible
idea,
so
I
I
take
that's
that's
a
good
thing.
Well,.
E
C
Know,
and
just
just
from
the
like,
the
artillius
and
perseocide
the
they
are
not
directly
in
a
involved
in
like
a
pipeline
type
of
event
but
they're
by
Stein
list
by
by
line
listeners
to
the
events,
so
they're
they're
more
interested
in
in
listening
than
actually
connecting
the
dots.
If
that
makes
sense,.
E
Yeah,
no
doubt
you
know,
I
was
just
looking
at
this
and-
and
there
is
you
know,
I'm
using
a
lot
of
business
lingua
today
you
know
fomo
and
flywheel,
and
those
sorts
of
things
and-
and
you
know,
my
hope
here
is-
is
just
to
show
value
that
it's
working
and
build
a
little
bit
of
momentum,
because
all
you
need
is
a
little
bit
and
I
I
had
this
feeling
when
I
was
looking
at
this,
like
you
know,
Penguins
hanging
out
on
the
ice
shelf,
and
you
know
each
of
them
knows:
there's
a
leopard
seal,
hey
get
out
of
the
water.
E
Nobody
wants
to
go
first,
I,
don't
think
it's
as
bad
as
getting
eaten
by
a
leopard
seal,
but
I
think
just
you
know
a
little
bit
of
push
from
Toc
and
I.
Think
that's
the
value
that
you
know,
one
of
the
many
bits
of
value
that
we
can
provide
to
to
our
projects
in
CDF,
so
I'll.
Let
you
know
how
it
goes.
K
Keep
yeah
yeah
I
want
to
point
out
an
opportunity
like
just
going
back.
One
year,
May
2012
CD
runs
was
officially
announced.
As
the
new
incubation
project
to
CDF
and
end
of
October.
We
announced
CDs
first
release
during
cubiccon
North
America
in
Detroit,
and
we
have
city
com
coming
up
and
I
know
these
things
take
time,
but
we
are
in
opportunity
like
if
we
can
get
one
or
two
projects
adopting
this,
like,
maybe
better
available
call
whatever
it
is.
K
B
Yeah
thanks
for
that
that
yeah
absolutely
it
would
be
great
PR2
for
CDF
and
for
the
project.
Obviously
so.
B
Cool
yeah,
exciting
to
see
interest,
and
so
many
discussion
about
City
events.
Sorry
and
where
my
City
events
maintain
their
head
as
well.
B
All
right,
so
we
only
have
seven
minutes
left
on
the
okr
proposal
from
last
week.
There
was
no
there's
no
draft
available
yet
so
no
real
update
on
that
area
hopefully
bring
some
more
updates
for
next
time.
So
there
is
a
GitHub
sponsorship
program
for
otelius.
C
Yeah
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
update
on
that.
So
thank
you,
Michelle
and
Fati
for
getting
that
us
connected
to
the
right
persons
in
in
GitHub,
so
the
contract's
been
signed
between
deploy,
Hub
and
GitHub
and
we're
working
on
transferring
the
money
over
so
be
available
to
the
artillius
org
for
the
sponsorship
program.
C
K
C
Oh,
our
Azure
everybody,
so
we've
had
an
issue
with
our
Azure
subscription,
we're
the
Linux
Foundation
paid
the
bill
to
Microsoft,
but
Microsoft
never
applied
the
money
to
our
subscription,
so
Microsoft
has
canceled
our
Azure
subscription.
So
all
of
everything
that
we
do
with
ortelius
is
basically
gone
in
our
Azure
cluster
or
Azure
account.
C
H
K
H
K
H
C
We
may
need
to
do
that.
We
can
move
over
to
another
under
like
the
deploy,
Hub
account
and
redirect
DNS
entries
and
stuff
like
that.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
fastest,
but
that
will
just
be
the
the
main
website.
B
F
B
So
I
don't
think
we
have
enough
time
really
to
go
through.
It
is,
but
just
wanted
to
have
a
look
at
the
in
progress
ones.
We
can
start
with
those
it's
a
CDF
Charter
updates
for
the
co-chairs
that
we
discussed
already.
So
we
can
link
I
can
put
some
updates
in
here
based
on
the
discussion
from
today,
so
the
city
event
0.2
over
these
yeah.
So
that's
something
we're
working
on
on
the
City
events
project
and
that
we
plan
to
make
a
new
release
in
February.
B
What
I
can
do
is
to
maybe
best
practices
sake,
see
if
we
can
get
some
updates
on
here
or
maybe
get
someone
to
do
a
presentation
of
what
we
have
on
this
today
to
the
POC.
B
B
All
right:
well,
it
was
great
meeting
everyone
today
thanks
everyone
for
joining
and
see
you,
if
not
earlier
in
a
couple
of
weeks,.