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A
The
first
one
I
draw
attention
is
that
that,
from
the
first
july
2021,
the
current
governance
and
administration
committee
become
known
as
government
administration
and
finance
committee
with
membership
and
areas
of
responsibility,
as
outlined
in
attachment
one
two,
that
from
the
first
july
2021,
the
current
special
budget
and
finance
committee
become
known
as
the
special
budget
committee
with
membership
and
areas
of
responsibility,
as
outlined
in
attachment
one
three,
that
the
special
budget
and
finance
committee
schedule
from
for
the
13th
of
september,
2021
and
25th
of
october
2021,
respectively,
be
cancelled
with
that
business
to
be
dealt
with
at
the
governance
administration
and
finance
council.
A
As
I
mentioned
during
our
special
budget
meeting
that
it's
more
efficient
that
our
governance
administration
add
to
it.
The
finance
section
and-
and
I
have
spoken
to
the
chair
of
governance
and
finance-
he's
fine
with
it
and
willing
to
do
the
additional
workload.
I've
also
added
councillor
pauline
young
to
this
committee
as
she's.
A
member
of
of
council's
audit
and
risk
committee,
it
goes
hand
in
hand
and-
and
I
think,
for
the
finance
part
of
our
of
this
committee
would
be
well
served
if
councillor
pauline
young
is
added
to
that.
A
A
Two
that
the
events
be
funded
through
existing
events
based
budget
to
a
maximum
of
250
275
000
from
cost
centers.
As
on
the
screen,
three,
that
the
acting
chief
executive
officer
be
authorized
to
make
all
necessary
arrangements,
including
entering
into
contractual
arrangement
with
seven
network,
limited
and
australian
olympic
committee
inc
to
ensure
the
events
can
be
delivered
safely
and
successfully
councillors.
It's
in
line
with
what
we
did
at
broadwater
parklands
when
we
waited
for
the
announcement
of
the
commonwealth
games
in
2011
and
in
this
way,
with
anticipation.
A
E
Not
much,
mr
mayor,
I
think
it's
probably
a
great
opportunity
to
get
some
worldwide
media
exposure,
because
there'll
be
some
some
live
crosses
to
the
to
the
live
sites
throughout
queensland
throughout
the
event
starting
a
great
opportunity
for
some
exposure
worldwide.
Mr
man.
F
I
think
it's
just
important
that
we
start
taking
note
of
how
much
we're
spending
on
the
way
through,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
type
of
amount,
which
is
not
small,
we'll
get
lost
in
the
discussions
and
negotiations
down
the
track
when
it
comes
to
asking
how
much
we
have
put
in
or
how
much
we're
prepared
to
put
in
and
clearly
that
the
spending
has
already
started.
So,
yes,.
A
I
agree
with
you:
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we
are
frugal.
With
rate
pays
funds,
councillor
put
the
motion
to
you
or,
in
fact
show
hands
against
motion.
Carry
council
peter
young.
Did
you
vote
which
way
abstain?
Could
you
record
council
peter
young
abstain?
Please.
A
Confirmation
a
minute
item:
four,
any
correction:
there
councillors
on
the
council
minutes
dated
the
eighth
of
june
council
gates
moved
for
adoption
second
day,
council
callwell
council.
I
put
the
motion
to
you
all
in
fashion:
hands
against
motion
carried.
A
Men's
report-
it's
not
a
very
long
one
councillors,
we're
good
to
tell
you
that
and
first
item
was
the
city's
citizenship
ceremony.
A
I
have
to
say
that
it's
one
of
the
pleasure
of
being
mayor
of
the
city
that
that
you
can
do
the
citizenship
ceremony
and-
and
there
were
two
hell
on
the
wednesday-
the
9th
of
june
totaling
800
people-
I
think
councillor
castro-
you
were
there
and
and
your
wife
or
partner
julia
was
there
and
the
kids
and
so
they'll
be
able
to
vote
for
you
now.
A
Yes,
that's
it!
During
the
ceremony,
we
always
enjoy
aussie
entertainment,
either
the
blender's
citizen,
choir
or
harmony
in
paradise.
The
ladies
choir
and
and
it's
one
of
those
celebration
of
you
know,
that's
how
our
country
was
built
by
new
australians,
an
item
two
australian
wallabies
training
camps,
well,
they're
they're,
here
at
the
they're,
calling
it
wallaby
cove
at
sanctuary,
cove
and
it'll
be
held
over
the
next
80
days.
A
They've
got
seven
separate
camps
there,
and
I
would
say
this
is
part
of
the
legacy
benefit
from
the
gold
coast,
2018
commonwealth
games
and
that's
david
rennie,
coach
of
the
wallabies
and
yes,
he
said
for
me
to
stay
on
the
bench
so
not
to
run
on
white
cloud
foundation,
boardies
and
bubbles
launched
at
shack
in
tedder
and
it's
queensland-based,
not-for-profit
organization
founded
in
2011
by
professor
adam
scott
and
66
000,
was
raised
that
lunch.
A
It
is.
Its
mission
is
to
provide
practical
support,
easy
access
to
treatment
and
early
intervention
program
for
people
living
with
or
at
risk
of
develop
developing
depression
in
many
forms.
What
was
moving
is
that
some
people
really
had
gave
their
testimony,
and-
and
you
know
you-
you
bring
tears
to
your
eyes,
some
of
the
things
that
they
went
through,
that
they
share
their
journey
and
which
encourage
people
to
go
out
and
support.
A
And
if
you
want
to
know
more,
just
google
where'd,
I
put
it
here.
We
go
white
cloud
foundation.
A
Next,
one
caught
up
with
richard
wilkins
he's
a
famous
tv
personality,
richard
yes,
you're
right.
He
does
not
comb
his
hair
and
as
being
a
senior
entertainment
reporter
with
channel
nine.
You
absolutely
enjoy
our
gallery
and
I,
like
the
idea
of
spreading
the
word
and
through
richard
you'll,
have
some
other
ideas
for
our
hotter,
not
just
gallery
and
also
the
amphitheater,
so
I'll
wait
to
hear
more
from
richard
mob
men
of
business.
A
Thank
you
celebration
in
southport,
the
the
event
was
hell
and
it's
a
group
of
businessmen
that
support
men's
a
business
and
the
academy
was
born
for
boys
who,
let's
say
difficult
and
it's
all
volunteers,
and
now
they
become
a
real
school
and
they
get
funding
from
the
state
government
as
a
as
a
real
school
and-
and
I
thought
well
yeah-
I
can
look
at
it,
it's
it's
the
latest.
A
It
looks
clean,
it's
got
the
latest
technology,
it's
got
a
gym
and
top
marks
to
to
everyone
involved
there,
and
I
talked
to
some
of
the
people
which
I
knew,
but
I
didn't
know
they
decided
to
do
teaching
and
did
they
causing
they
might
be
an
optometrist
or
whatever
field
they're
in
and
yet
they're
in
the
in
there
doing
their
work
in
in
the
teaching
to
the
boys
and
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
stories
which
I'll
share
with
you
another
day
and
well,
I
I
would
say
I've
asked
that
that
they
come
and
speak
at
the
next
next
mayor
safety
forum,
because
at
our
safety
forum
there
we
talked
about
domestic
violence
and
by
the
time
the
police
is
called,
the
the
situation's
only
gone
over.
A
The
cliff
there's
already
violence
and
bashing
there.
What
they're
trying
to
do
is
to
teach
young
boys
that
domestic
violence
is,
is
not
right
and
they're
in
home
environment
that
it's
the
norm
and
so
we're
trying
to
encourage
and
support
through
education,
to
break
through
to
training
that
it's
not
right
for
domestic
violence.
The
second
part
to
that
all
the
businesses
that
support
this
mob
academy
has
also
now,
when
the
boys
are
graduated
and
and
taking
their
trade,
has
got
employability.
A
So
I
think
someone
was
saying
about
90
percent
that
come
through
has
got
jobs
lined
up
so
there's
there's
hope
for
the
boys
so
that
they
don't
have
to
go
back
into
their
their
home,
which
is
and
and
and
to
break
through
there,
that
they
can
earn
their
own
living
and
and
to
have
a
different
cycle.
A
So
I
I'm
looking
forward
to
learn
more
about
it
and,
and
it
would
be
a
great
franchise
to
have
it
another
location
in
australia,
global
organization,
gopio
dinner
was
held
at
seaworld
resort
and
it's
a
global
organization
of
people
with
indian
origin.
A
It's
an
international
network
and,
and
the
gold
coast
chapter
was
established
in
2015,
promoting
well-being
of
people
of
indian
origin
and
enhancing
cooperation
and
communication
between
pio
living
on
the
gold
coast
and
the
wider
gold
coast
community.
What
was
fantastic
on
that
night
is
truly
a
multicultural
event.
It
wasn't
just
people
with
indian
origin.
A
It
was
people
from
all
over
the
world
and
and
to
support
each
other,
and
you
know
we
are
our
heart
aches,
with
the
covet
outbreak
in
india,
how
they're
really
the
amount
of
death
and
has
been
enormous-
it's
curtailed
a
bit
now,
and
so
we
look
forward
in
the
days
where
the
borders
are
international.
Boards
are
open
again
so
that
families
can
rejoin.
There's
a
lot
of
australian
with
indian
descent
still
in
india.
I
think
the
last
count
was
over
three
and
a
half
thousand
and
we've
got
to
get
them
back
all
right.
A
So
I
moved
that
mayor's
report
be
welcomed
and
noted
second
council
of
gates
put
the
motion
to
you
all
in
face.
Show
hands
against
motion,
carry.
A
D
Gates
many
thanks,
mr
mayor.
This
is
one
that
I
wish
to
be
involved
with
moving
forward,
that
I've
just
been
advertised,
advise
sorry
that
an
application
has
been
lodged,
and
I
wanted
to
make
a
declaration
that
in
2008
the
civil
engineer
for
the
project.
Provided
me
with
a
sum
of
five
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
D
I
have
had
advice
from
the
city
solicitor
on
this
one,
and
it
was
recommended
that
I
make
the
declaration,
albeit
the
length
of
the
time,
is,
is
significant
and
for
consideration.
So
I
put
that
forward
for
my
colleagues
to
assess
all.
A
Right,
so
a
procedural
motion
is
required.
Anyone
like
to
move
for
procedural
motion.
B
If
that
councillor
gates
may
participate
in
the
decision,
despite
the
conflict
of
interest,.
B
A
That's
pretty
good
the
second,
if
anyone
counselor
pauline
young,
anyone
wants
to
speak
against
questions.
Put
the
motion
to
you
all
in
fact,
hands
against
motion,
carry
counsel
gates.
A
E
Right
private
show
hands:
yes,
yes
buddy.
I
catch
the
hammer.
Cancer
ties.
The
council
taylor,
councillor
new
york,
council
called
wildcats
owen
jones
council
following
young
councillor
castro
council
mcdonald,
council
by
lancaster
council,
paterson
council
of
law,
stuff.
A
Against
and
police
record
councillor
gates
did
not
vote
all
right
councillors.
We
now
go
to
item
10.
special
budget
councillors.
I
move
that
the
minister's
special
budget
and
finance
committee
meeting
held
on
the
17th
of
may
2021
and,
of
course
it
was
adjourned
to
2024
31st
of
may
7th
for
june
16
june.
A
You've
got
the
minutes
there
covered
by
recommendation
1
to
14,
be
received
secondary
council
taser.
Put
the
motion
to
you
all
in
fashion.
Hands
against
motion
carried
can
answer
any
items
you
wish
to
deal
separately.
Questions
question.
B
B
I
just
I
would
hate
to
think
that
people
who
are
watching
today
thought
we
only
met
on
the
17th
of
may,
because
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
meetings
covered
by
that
special
budget
committee
resolutions,
but
it
is
that
that
resolution
covers
every
one
of
those
meetings.
That's
correct!
Thank
you.
Correct.
F
Mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
deal
with
item
and
I'm
a
little
bit
lost
with
the
numbering
so
item
10
on
which
appears
on
page
29
of
the
minutes.
F
F
A
E
E
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mrs
mel.
Just
have
a
question
of
you
or
perhaps
through
you
to
the
to
the
acting
chief
executive
officer.
There
is
an
interplay
between
this
particular
resolution
and
a
subsequent
resolution
in
the
report,
and
it
has
an
impact
on
a
resolution
to
do
with
budget
adoption
it's
confidential.
H
So
I
can't
really
be
explicit
around
this,
but
I
just
want
to
get
some
comfort
and
confirmation
that,
despite
the
decision
that
council
has
arrived
at
following
the
adoption
of
this
recommendation
that
when
budget
is
adopted,
we're
going
to
adopt
the
position
that
was
taken
on
the
related
matter.
In
other
words,
we're
not
overriding
a
position
that
we've
taken.
E
A
Yeah,
I'm
touching
it:
okay,
okay,
so
tights
and
gates
right.
I
move
that
the
minutes
of
the
special
budget
and
finance
committee
meeting
recommendations
be
adopted
with
the
exception
of
item
10,
which
were
separately
resolved
second
day.
Cancer
gates,
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
phase
show
hands
against
against
against
going
once
motion
carrot,
unanimous.
I
A
Okay,
council
taylor,
you
want
a
second
put.
The
motion
to
you,
or
in
fact
show
hands
against
motion.
Carry
any
items
you
want
to
deal
separately.
Councillor
was
there.
H
Councillors.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
If
I
I'm
happy
to
move
that
and
if
I
had
a
second
I'd
just
like
to
speak.
H
Record,
oh
second,
then.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
mr
mayor.
By
way
of
background,
you
would
recall
that
council
was
in
receipt
of
a
petition
that
posited
several
positions
on
the
delivery
of
the
ocean
way
network
along
the
coastline,
and
it
advocated
amongst
many
positions
that
there
should
be
a
beach
side.
Alignment
for
the
ocean
way
moving
forward,
particularly
along
the
mermaid
beach
section.
H
The
report
to
my
recollection
and
to
my
understanding,
dealt
with
a
range
of
issues
around
that
particular
option,
which
I
would
encourage
anyone
to
be
familiar
with,
but
the
most
germane
to
to
my
thinking
and
the
form
of
words
which
we
see
on
the
screen
is
simply
that
this
is
not
a
council
project.
This
section
of
the
ocean
way
will
be
delivered
by
the
state
government
as
part
of
the
third
stage
of
the
light
rail.
So
in
fairness
to
the
lead,
petitioner,
the
words
on
screen
suggest
that
the
petitioner
seek
a
second
audience.
H
I
suppose,
with
the
responsible
minister
and
council,
will
get
on
with
the
job
of
delivering
the
balance
of
the
ocean
way
where
it
falls
within
council's
remit.
Mr
may
I
just
want
to
say
this
explicitly
because
it's
a
little
bit
of
juice
in
the
third
part
and
I'll
read
read
what
the
motion
says.
The
council
notes
that
the
state
government
is
responsible
for
the
delivery
of
the
mermaid
beach
ocean
way
between
pillars,
avenue
and
chairlift
avenue.
H
Restating
council's
preferred
alignment
is
detailed
in
the
transport
2031
and
subordinate
plans.
Now,
just
to
be
explicit,
our
preferred
alignment
is
not
along
the
beach
right.
So
if
there
are
representatives
of
the
state
representatives
of
the
community
who
who
wonder
what
our
position
might
be
and
don't
have
the
time
inclination
to
consult
with
that
strategy
in
the
plans,
I
just
want
to
be
explicit.
It's
not
along
the
beach
and
if
you
hold
a
contrary
view,
the
best
use
of
your
time
is
to
seek
an
audience
with
the
minister.
H
A
Anyone
speak
against,
then
you
don't
need
to
close
any
further
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
facial
hands
against
motion
carried
director.
Can
you
articulate
that
position
again
to
not
not
to
ask,
but
to
the
to
the
the
dg
very.
A
This
is
where
we're
at
so,
at
least
they
know.
Yes,.
I
A
I
A
All
right,
counselor
hamill,
wait
a
second
that
put
the
motion
to
you.
Oh
and
facial
hands
against
motion
carried
any
items.
You
want
to
deal
separately
decorations.
A
Anything
like
that.
Council,
council,
kayla,
o'neill,.
I
We're
interchangeable.
Mr
me,
mr
mayor,
I
move
that
the
minutes
of
the
water
waste
and
committee's
recommendations
be
adopted.
A
Right,
we
now
go
to
economic
tourism
and
events.
Council
castro.
C
A
B
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor,
mr
mao
rise
to
make
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
declaration.
I
did
not
attend
the
committee
meeting,
but
I'm
taking
the
step
now,
as
the
reports
considered
by
council
to
make
the
following
declaration,
which
is
that
a
friend
of
mine,
close
friend,
kyle
shapland,
I've
learned
has
recently
met
with
city
officers
to
discuss
his
employer's
investment
in
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct,
a
project
which
is
referred
to
in
the
report.
H
As
I
said,
I've
only
recently
become
aware
of
this
council's
taken
no
decision
since
I've
become
aware
of
this,
and
just
for
clarity's
sake,
the
project
that's
been
identified
in
the
report
is
actually
not
subject
of
a
further
investment
decision,
I'm
seeking
to
remain
in
the
room
and
participate
in
the
matter,
because
the
report
concerns
itself,
with
council's
preferred
approach
to
working
with
other
government
and
non-government
organization
stakeholders
to
better
curate
the
economic
outcomes
of
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct
rather
than
with
mr
chaplin's
employer.
Besides,
mr
chaplin
is
an
employee,
not
management.
A
Okay,
so
procedural
motion
would
be
quite
simple
in
the
way
that
if
we
cut
all
that
and
paste
it
at
the
end
of
because
would
that
be
all
right?
A
Okay,
minute
taker
see
that
councillor
in
the
procedural
motion
council
of
austin
may
participate
in
the
decision,
despite
the
council
conflict
of
interest
because
and
then
copy
all
that
the
report
concern
all
that
sort
of
stuff
and
put
it
there
after,
because
it's
a
good
reason.
A
H
Okay,
move
it
for
me,
sorry
and
mr
man
obviously
not
seeking
to
influence
anyone's
deliberations
on
this.
Perhaps
we
do
need
to
change
the
word.
My
perhaps
given
his
here
we
go.
Thank
you.
A
A
second
that
council
toza
all
right,
that's
a
big
reason:
there
yeah
yeah,
okay,
we
moved
and
secretary
councillor
toaster.
Anyone
want
to
ask
questions,
speak
against
put
the
motion
to
you
or
info
show
hands.
Mr
tate.
A
All
right
against
motion
carry
councilworster
did
not
vote
back
to
cancer
tozo.
B
An
informed
debate
about
this
matter
at
our
committee
and
if
it
might
be
okay
at
the
time
councillor
patterson,
spoke
fairly
passionately
about
her
involvement
in
that
precinct
being
at
her
division,
mod
I'd,
let
her
open
debate
and
I'm
happy
to
move
the
motion
or
second,
her
motion.
If
she
chooses.
B
A
B
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
the
city's
been
supporting
the
gold
coast,
health
and
knowledge
precinct
for
a
number
of
years,
and
there
were
some
rocky
starts
with
that.
In
our
experience
in
terms
of
commitment
from
state
level
as
well
to
that
area,
it's
been
a
really
interesting
time
for
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct
with
companies
across
the
world,
finding
the
city
to
be
a
very
safe
place.
G
D
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
spoke
against
the
motion
as
it
currently
exists
at
committee.
For
the
reason
that
covert
has
presented
new
opportunities
for
the
city.
We
have
become
a
place
of
preference
for
not
only
business
but
for
a
large
population
movement
to
not
to
to
the
north
because
of
how
well
handled
the
covert
situation
has
been.
D
I'm
aware,
as
you
are,
that
there
were
322
exits
from
griffith
university
in
recent
times,
while
they
looked
after
their
bottom
line
in
ensuring
that
they
were
doing
the
right
thing
in
response
to
covert
in
terms
of
staffing
of
those
322
exits,
there
were
one
200
professionals
that
exited
the
university.
D
Without
making
this
contribution,
we
pulled
out
of
the
council
of
mayors
to
save
a
similar
amount
of
money,
and
my
feeling
is
that,
as
is
indicated
by
you
in
the
paper
this
morning,
mr
mayor,
it's
a
back
to
basics
budget
and
we
should
be
focusing
on
the
things
that
our
ratepayers
expect
from
us
in
terms
of
park
upgrades
there's
not
a
park
in
northern
gold
coast
in
the
boundaries
of
division.
Three,
that
is
a
destination
park
and
funding
has
been
brought
forward
in
this
budget
from
a
ten-year
plan
to
a
four-year
plan.
D
I
think
the
community
would
be
better
served
by
us
doing
the
things
that
local
government
has
a
huge
responsibility
for
not
just
roads
rates
and
rubbish,
but
recreational
space
in
a
growing
city.
I
also
feel
that
the
pda
controls
development
and
the
type
of
development
that
will
occur
within
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
D
There
was
a
memo
that
we
were
provided
from
brian
case,
which
says
it's
not
about
the
balance
of
land
because,
as
spoken
by
the
professor,
the
cohort's,
almost
full
they've
got
huge
interest
in
the
land
that's
available,
but
mr
case
suggests
it's
not
about
the
balance
of
land,
but
it's
about
the
type
of
development
that
will
occur
on
that
land.
Well,
the
pda
guides
that
the
state
has
control
over
that,
and
I'm
just
wanting
to
state
the
case
that
we
want
to
continue
supporting
the
operation
of
the
project
office.
D
D
A
On
that,
one
of
the
key
project
is
the
adap
building.
I
know
that
it's
meant
to
start.
Is
there
director?
Is
there
any
progress
to
that,
or
is
that
just
trading
water,
because
that's
the
one
that
will
attract
other
health
and
knowledge
investment
in
that
precinct?
You
see.
G
Three
yeah
through
you,
mr
man,
from
what
I
am
aware
that
that
has
commenced,
and
that
is
starting.
I
don't
know
if
richard
or
joe
can
provide
any
further
information
there,
but
I
know
that
they
have
started
working
on
that
all
right.
J
J
Into
the
shortening
of
the
agreement
by
a
year,
and
then
in
what's
up
on
the
screen
is
six,
but
would
be
three
the
splitting
of
a
into
two
components.
J
One
being
that
the
recurrent
funding
of
250
000
per
year
to
support
the
gold
coast,
health
and
knowledge
precinct
project
office
on
the
basis
of
the
term
of
agreement
is
reduced
to
three
years
and
it
enables
the
next
council
to
consider
its
position
regarding
any
further
funding
and
resource
support
and
b,
that
the
health
knowledge
precinct
project
office
works
closely
with
the
city
economy,
branch
to
secure
investment,
in
accordance
with
the
council's
approved
investment
attraction
program
and
guidelines,
and
four
that
the
council
approves
a
budget
allocation
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
strategic
priorities
reserve
to
be
utilized
for
potential
investment
attraction
projects.
J
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
thank
the
director
for
providing
the
three
or
four
pages
of
advice
that
you
did
post
the
meeting,
which
picked
up
a
couple
of
the
questions
that
had
been
asked
at
the
meeting.
Firstly,
I
think
that
the
entire
council
has
been
committed
for
a
very
long
period
of
time
to
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
J
It
was
originally
a
much
larger
area
and
then
contracted
around
the
investment
that
this
that
the
state
government
has
largely
made
in
regards
to
the
hospital
and
that
and
the
games,
village
and
and
the
results
that
happened
after
the
2018
games.
J
And
it's
been
successful
in
the
context
that
at
the
presentation
that
we
received,
it
was
pretty
clear
that
there
weren't
that
many
available
blocks
left.
So
we
did
turn
our
mind
to
what
happens
in
the
future.
And
how
do
we
curate
that
precinct,
as
opposed
to
be
directly
involved
in
investment
attraction?
J
And
one
of
the
points
that
the
director
has
made
is
the
last
point
that
that
basically
says
that,
should
all
of
the
outcomes
be
achieved
in
the
next
four
to
five
years,
then
the
partnership
focus
will
move
more
likely
to
move
to
an
ongoing
precinct
management
role,
one
in
which
the
city
role
will
still
be
important.
But
it
has
significantly
reduced
financial
costs
to
the
city.
So
I
think,
as
we
transition
from
the
investment
that
we've
made
in
the
partnership
towards
the
future,
shortening
that
period
and
allowing
it
to
be
a
decision.
J
If
the
next
council
makes
sense
to
me,
mr
mayor
and
then
we're
allocating
the
same
amount
of
money,
we're
just
putting
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
strategic
priority
reserve,
which
gives
us
just
that
little
bit
more
control.
And
I
think
that's
not
an
unreasonable
position
to
to
to
land
on
mr
mayor,
okay,.
B
Mr
mayor,
the
the
report
was
confidential,
so
on
page
22
and
23
of
the
report
for
councillors.
Information,
although
I
know
people
watching,
might
be
able
to
read
that
outline
some
of
the
key
wins
of
the
gold
coast,
health
and
knowledge
precinct
in
our
city.
I've
got
to
say
I'm
a
massive
advocate
for
health
technology
being
a
thriving
and
growing
sector
in
our
city,
and
I
think
that
these
steps
to
reduce
our
footprint
and
capacity
to
influence
what
is
happening
in
that
precinct
is
problematic
for
a
number
of
reasons.
B
I'm
actually
the
second
part
of
the
amendment,
mr
mayor,
I'm
not
particularly
opposed
to
giving
director
swain's
advice
to
the
council,
but
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
drawing
back
of
one
year
in
march
april
of
2024,
there
will
be
another
local
government
election,
given
that
this
agreement
concludes
around
2024
effectively
means
that
the
entire
18
months
prior
to
that
end
date,
any
negotiations
for
the
subsequent
year
cannot
be
delivered.
B
Most
of
these
negotiations
have
a
tenure
or
have
a
duration
that
you
know
progresses
well
before
the
the
actual
results
are
delivered
or
the
tenancy
commences,
and
by
reducing
that
one
year
and
on
the
basis
that
we're
letting
the
next
council
make
a
decision
we're
effectively
only
allowing
the
next
council
to
to
make
a
90
day
or
less
than
90
day
decision
about
what
might
or
might
not
happen,
and
all
of
the
negotiations
that
will
have
happened
in
the
previous
12
months
will
be
potentially
fruitless.
B
I
wanted
to
review
some
of
the
things
councillor
gates
said
earlier
in
her
her
comments,
she
said
there
were
no
outcomes
or
or
comments
to
that
effect.
I
just
can't
see
that
being
the
case.
I
think
that
there's
been
actually
quite
a
lot
of
excellent
outcomes
in
that
precinct.
I
don't
think
it
is,
is
a
core
business
of
the
gold
coast,
but
I
think
it
should
be,
and
for
us
to
be
serious
about
moving
the
gold
coast,
health
and
knowledge
precinct
and
our
health
technology
sector
forward.
B
We
must
stay
in
that
conversation
being
in
the
room
and
in
that
table
and
actually
contributing
these
funds
are
centrally
important
to
us
helping
influence
what
is
happening
there
frankly,
for
the
same
reasons
that
council
of
the
gates
perhaps
doesn't
quite
trust
the
state
to
to
prioritize
the
interests
of
the
gold
coast
over
over
any
other
area
of
the
state
their
they
their
responsibility
is
to
the
whole
state.
It
makes
no
sense
for
them
to
favor
one
city
over
another.
B
I
want
them
to
favor
the
gold
coast,
but
for
us
to
be
in
the
room
and
for
us
to
be
have
a
vested
interest
in
advancing
that
and
influencing
those
outcomes.
I
think
we
need
to
be
contributing
this
and
being
a
partner
to
the
to
the
to
the
full
extent
of
the
terms
that
are
set
for
us,
which
I
think
is
2025
33
2025,
which
I
think
is
the
original
resolution.
I
don't
think
this
amendment
in
its
fullness
is
the
right
way
forward.
B
I
hope
that
councillors
vote
against
it
and
that
we
can
go
and
adopt
a
resolution
after
this
amendment
fails
that
accommodates
a
and
b
separated,
but
still
allows
the
next
council
a
proper
full
12
months
to
potentially
see
that
agreement
through,
and
I
have
full
confidence
that
over
that
fullness
of
time,
we
may
actually
end
up
seeing
full
capacity
in
that
precinct
and
a
new
sector
thriving
and
growing
at
the
time
that
we
do
exit
the
agreement
with
all
the
stakeholders
together.
D
Sorry,
mr
mayor,
I
spoke
against
the
the
committee
recommendation,
but
I
did
want
to
indicate
my
support
for
what's
being
proposed
now.
The
three-year
term,
rather
than
a
four-year
term,
I
think,
is
valid.
My
points
earlier
were
that
we
still
have
a
vital
interest
in
this
precinct.
D
D
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
am
content
with
the
amendment
I
would
have.
I
would
have
thought
that
it
would
be
useful
to
have
that
extra
time
frame
rather
than
having
the
experience
of
being
a
new
counselor
and
having
something
of
this
significance
on
your
desk
within
weeks
of
being
in
the
job.
I
I
did
think
it
made
more
sense
for
it
to
be
as
it
was.
However,
I
I'm
content
with
this
as
a
way
forward,
so
that
we
can
commit,
and
we
can
be
there
for
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
Okay,.
A
A
Please
could
you
record
counselor
tozer
in
the
negative
and
councillor
mcdonald
and
councillor
bellum,
lumsden
and
so
councillor
owen
jones
is
your
motion.
Thank.
J
You,
mr
mayor,
I'll,
just
speak
briefly
to
the
changes,
but
only
in
the
context
that
I
think
that
the
whole
city
is
behind
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
What
we
need
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we're
spending
our
money
in
the
right
place
at
the
right
time.
J
J
But
it
would
not
have
provided
the
white
collar
professional
jobs
that
we're
looking
to
get
out
of
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct.
So
now
that
we're
at
the
stage
where
there
are
only
three
or
four
sites
in
that
precinct
left,
we
need
to
be
pivoting
towards
what
the
future
looks
like,
and
I
think
the
fact
that
we
are
staying
in
the
room
until
june
24
with
a
funding
agreement,
gives
us
options
to
look
at
how
we
continue
a
different
partnership
agreement
after
2024.
J
J
A
Anyone
speak
against
emotion,
then
counseling
jones,
you
don't
need
to
close
further.
Do
okay,
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
facial
hands
against
what
did
you
vote
cancer
for
okay?
Then
nothing
is
unanimous,
unanimous,
okay,
any
other
items
you
wish
to
deal
separately,
counselor
pdr.
C
Could
we
deal
with
item
four
separately?
Please
we're
going
to
four
mr
merritt's
a
confidential
matter,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
which
I'll
probably
need
to
pose
in
closed
session,
but
personally
I
don't
support
it
being
dealt
with
in
confidential
sessions,
so
I
won't
move
for
that.
Procedurally.
A
C
C
C
My
second
question,
if
you
don't
mind,
is
in
regards
to
your
participation,
which
is
intended
to
be
at
least
five
missions
from
my
understanding
from
new
zealand
in
august
through
to
well
russia,
london,
birmingham,
dubai,
switzerland
and
london
again
in
march
next
year.
So
my
concern
is
about
covert
and,
of
course
that's.
D
Of
order,
mr
mayor,
the
locations
remain
confidential
at
the
moment
and
councillor
young
has
just
spruced
a
whole
lot
of
locations
for
a
confidential
item.
I
think
if
we,
if
you
want
to
speak
to
it
councillor
young,
I
think
we
need
to
go
into
coast.
A
But
I'll
answer
the
number
number
of
location.
C
That's
not
the
issue,
mr
smith,
I
can
just
jump
in
sorry,
I'm
concerned
about
when
you
come
back,
what
provisions
will
be
there
for
your
health
and
and
those
around
you,
presumably
there's
some
kind
of
quarantine
required
for
each
of
those
times,
and,
and
I'm
just
worrying
about
that
time-
that
you're
not
not
available
and
the
times
when
you'll
be
back
here
and
available.
You
know
in
close
proximity,
but
still
required
to
be
in
quarantine
and
let
let.
A
Me
leave
them,
for,
let
me
answer
people
counselors
covert
is
is
really
a
dynamic
target
in
in
the
way
that
things
may
change.
Those
mission,
that's
seeking
council
support
is
that
two
things
one
it's
in
place
that
we
are
very
supportive
of
those
events.
A
Now
should
the
covert
prohibit
a
mayoral
mission,
then
it
will
be
postponed
to
the
the
following
year,
and
so
it
will
be
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
instead
of
have
with
the
tip
program,
I
think
it's
council's
required
to
to
do
that.
Also.
A
A
I
mean,
as
mayor
you'd
like
to
use
the
mayoralty
for
the
benefit
of
the
city,
but
in
some
cases
a
deputy
mayor
or
a
councillor
can
can
perform
the
duty
well
and
once
I
get
to
there
I'll
just
go
I'll
delegate
that
to
another
to
deputy
mayor
or
another
council
which
I've
done
in
the
past
so
councillors.
A
I
I'd
say
to
you
that
with
the
covert,
that's
if
you
go
there
like
the
prime
minister,
he
went
across
to
the
uk
now
he's
quarantined,
which
is
correct,
but
I
have
confidence
in
our
deputy
mayor
and
and
together.
If
the
deputy
mayor
is
not
available,
council
callwell
and
councillor
boster
to
take
up
the
acting
mere
duty.
A
A
market
of
good
chefs
is
how
well
the
kitchen
operates
when
you're,
not
here
and-
and
my
attitude
here-
is
that
that
analogy
a
mark
of
a
good
mayor.
If
I'm
not
here,
I'm
in
quarantine,
I
have
absolute
confidence
that
the
14
of
you
will
do
admirable
job
and
the
guidance
under
who
is
ever
the
acting
there.
C
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
can
I
respond
yeah?
Yes,
my
question
wasn't
in
any
way
to
undermine
the
or
question
your
authority
or
ability
to
deal
with
the
missions
in
a
very
fulfilled
way
on
behalf
of
the
city.
It's
just
about
your
return
here
and
your
ability
to
serve
the
city
and
you've.
Obviously,
given
that
strong
consideration
thanks,
mr
smith,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
move
council
toza
secondary
councillor
castro
council
test.
B
Mr
mayor,
I
think
all
of
us
have
seen
the
benefit
of
a
strong
and
active
international
trade
and
investment
program
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and,
frankly,
yeah.
I
think
our
our
council
has
been
very
transparent
about
that.
We've
been
very
bullish
and
very
open
about
how
we've
communicated
the
relationships,
we're
cultivating
with
people
and
cities
and
states
of
other
nations.
B
I
think,
frankly,
across
australia,
we're
probably
one
of
the
best
who's
doing
that.
You
know
one
of
the
most
prominent
cities
in
australia,
cultivating
those
sorts
of
relationships,
and,
frankly,
I
have
seen
you
know:
international
sporting
teams
come
here:
international
sporting
events,
great
trade
and
investment
exercises
in
business,
development
and
and
and
the
building
scene-
and
I
I
frankly
I
think,
what's
proposed
on
in
this
confidential
report-
is-
is
great.
B
I
think
it's
gonna
be
good
for
our
city,
particularly
some
of
those
relationships
with
closer
nations
potentially,
and
whilst
the
only
elements
that
are
confidential
at
the
moment
are
the
budgetary
moment
of
elements
every
other
moment.
You
know
it's
there's
no
secret.
B
A
B
Thank
you
item
five.
I
just
have
a
declaration
and
also
have
a
similar
declaration
on
item
seven,
I'm
happy
for
it
just
to.
A
Be
ready
or
if
you'd
like
me,
to
read
it
out,
I'm
gonna
read
it.
Let's
do
five.
The
item
is
on
the
screen
and
can
go
down
a
bit
further
in
the
nature
and
despite
the
well
that
may
be
citizens
of
that
make
a
good
reason
to
cut
and
pace
again.
Is
it
despite
the
reception,
if
we
can
put
that
after,
because
we
already
got
it
in
there?
A
I
am
thank
you.
Procedural
motion
is
so
simple
this
time
it's
already
up
there
counselor
anyone
wants
to
move
the
procedural
motion-
council,
peter
young,
second,
to
counselor
gates.
Anyone
wish
to
speak
against
that
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
facial
hands.
Mr.
A
B
Mr
may,
this
item
relates
to
some
slight
adjustments.
We've
made
in
our
investment
attraction
program
based
on
some
consultation
with
industry
sectors,
and
I
commend
them
to
councillors,
and
I
recommend
that
we
move
this
motion
in
alignment
with
the
committee's
recommendation
to
us.
Okay,.
A
Anyone
speak
against
the
motion.
Put
the
motion
to
you
oh,
and
face
your
hands
against
carry
unanimous
counsel,
which
unanimous
you
had
your
hand
for
the
next
item.
H
Oh
yes,
sorry,
mr
mayor,
with
respect
to
item
six.
Okay.
H
You
doing
no,
I'm
not
gonna
occupy
too
much
of
council's
time,
but
I
did
have
a
philosophical
concern
about
this
and
wanted
to
note
my
opposition.
If
they
vote
in
the
negative
okay.
A
And
so
in
the
so
council
la
castro
moved
council
ties
the
second
councillor
castro.
You
want
to
speak
on
that.
C
H
Look
as
as
councillor
lecastro
alluded
to,
we
are
dealing
with
a
closed
item.
I'll
merely
say
this,
mr
mayor,
should
the
city
be
included
as
part
of
the
brisbane
2032
bid?
H
I
would
hope
that
we
maximize
the
economic
opportunities
which
may
flow
to
the
city,
because
there
will
be
some
costs
and
we've
seen
some
of
those
costs
today
with
council
supporting
live
sites
for
a
number
of
reasons,
we're
more
or
less
bound
down
this
course
of
action,
and
there
are
safeguards-
and
I
refer
to
section
three
there
that
says
this
is
all
subject
to
that
long
form,
accommodation
agreement
being
dealt
with,
but
long
and
short
of
it
is.
H
I
think,
if,
if
we
expect
people
to
come
visit
the
city,
we
should
look
at
opportunities
to
extract
an
economic
dividend
for
no
other
reason
than
to,
I
suppose,
fuel
the
necessary
delivery
of
product
and
infrastructure
that
we
might
hope
to
expect
in
the
lead
up
to
2032.,
especially.
H
Well,
look
a
hundred
percent
and
I
mean
without
going
to
the
confidential
nature
of
this.
I
think
one
can
look
at
the
experience
of
the
commonwealth
games
and
I
would
challenge
most
to
point
to
product
that
was
delivered
here
on
the
gold
coast
to
accommodate
spectators
and
what
have
you
for
the
commonwealth
games?
I
think
you'd
struggle
to
do
that
and
yeah
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
don't
want
to
throw
into
confidential
matters,
but
that's
my
concern.
A
A
Thank
you
in
a
negative
anyone
else.
No
okay,
six
is
done
and
and
counselor
taser.
A
Okay,
we
go
to
seven
same
same
thing,.
A
With
that
counselor
who
moved
the
procedural
motion
council,
peter
young,
secondary
counselor
gates,
that's
right.
Anyone
speak
against
the
motion.
Put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
facial
hands.
Yes,.
E
A
Okay
against
motion
carried
council
towson
did
not
vote
council
taser.
I'm.
A
B
Mr
mayor,
it
is
no
secret
that
our
city
has
a
very
bold
program
to
attract
films
to
our
city
and
we've
seen
over
the
last
months
and
years
now.
Blockbuster
films
from
other
places
be
made
here.
That's
done
a
wonderful
job
in
in
giving
two
things
to
the
city.
First,
an
economic
impact
of
people
coming
into
the
city
and
creating
great
film
projects,
but
it's
also
given
a
great
resource
for
people
who
want
to
participate
in
the
film
industry
who
are
living
in
our
city
to
participate
in
those
films
being
produced
here.
B
Only
just
recently,
13
lives
ron
howard's,
most
recent
film
about
the
thai
cave
rescue
was
filmed
in
mudrabar.
It's
no
secret.
That's
all
been
all
over
the
news
and
I
know
quite
a
number
of
locals
who
are
employed
as
caterers,
carpenters,
crew
actors,
support
staff
and
it's
been
amazing.
What
is
missing
in
our
in
our
city
right
now
is
is
a
program
for
those
film
industry
participants
to
create
smaller
budget
projects
that
fill
the
gaps
between
those
large
programs.
B
We
have
a
small
program
called
the
regional
arts
development
fund,
which
gives
away
small
grants
of,
in
normally
between
five
and
kind
of
fifty
thousand,
maybe
sometimes
a
bit
less
than
that
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
but
there's,
and
then
we
have
these
large
ones,
which
are
it's
quite
often
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
attract
these
blockbuster
films
into
cities
into
our
city
that
have
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
of
economic
impact,
but
there's
a
gap
in
the
middle
mr
mayor
and
that
and
that
gap
is
filled
by
this
program,
and
not
only
is
it
filled
by
this
program
from
people
who
are
making
these
smaller
budget
films
who
normally
live
in
other
locations,
but
it's
primarily
focused
on
local
practitioners
in
the
film
industry.
B
Undertaking
film
projects
right
here
in
the
city
and
what
that
hopes
to
do
is
create
content
here
created
by
producers
and
directors
based
here
that
can
be
broadcast
all
around
the
world.
Further
raising
our
profile
as
a
city
in
the
global
film
context.
I
think
that
has
great
value
for
the
city.
It's
a
gap
that
the
team
have
identified.
B
I
want
to
thank
the
the
economic
development
team,
particularly
gabrielle
jones,
for
for
getting
involved
in
some
of
the
research
around
this
and
identifying
it's
a
gap,
but
I
know
there's
a
number
of
independent
filmmakers
in
our
city
who
will
be
really
excited
about
this
program.
Moving
forward,
I
know
of
even
one
who
was
just
working
on
13
lives
just
recently,
no
no
relation
to
my
family,
but
but
they
are
they've,
come
into
town
they're,
already
on
abc
and
sbs,
and
the
commercial
stations
with
documentaries
and
they're.
A
C
A
F
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
move
that
the
minutes
of
the
planning
and
environment
committee
meeting
held
on
thursday,
the
17th
of
june
2021,
covered
by
a
whopping
number
of
recommendations,
one
to
three
be
received.
No
there's
four.
There
man.
A
F
Receiving
things
there
was
four
on
the
agenda,
but
there's
only
three
recommendations.
A
I
Okay,
number:
three:
it's
in
relation
to
a
development
application
at
14
to
18
28th
avenue
at
palm
beach.
A
Second,
councillor
owen
jones.
J
I
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
We
raised
some
questions
at
committee
in
regards
to
the
code
accessible
application,
but
mr
mayor
very
broadly,
the
site
since
1993
has
envisaged
that
there
would
be
both
height
and
density
and
that
is
effectively
what's
been
applied
for
and
the
officers
have
recommended
conditions
that
are
both
relevant
and
reasonable
in
regards
to
the
the
project
and
that's
what
the
recommendation
of
the
committee
was.
Mr
mayor,
okay,.
I
Speaking
against
the
motion,
mr
mayor,
I
had
my
resolution,
for
it
to
be
refused
was
on
a
number
of
grounds
in
density,
side,
cover
setbacks
and
communal,
open
space.
In
regards
to
the
density,
this
density
represents
a
significant
non-compliance.
I
The
density
is
just
short
of
the
highest
density
in
the
town
plan
of
rd8,
which
is
one
bed
per
13
square
meters.
The
development
represents
an
increase
in
density
within
a
locality.
That's
not
anticipated
by
the
city
plan
and
this
particular
development.
Application
is
adjacent
to
residential
density
rd3.
I
I
I
So,
mr
mayor,
I
cannot
support
this
application
because
the
bulk
and
the
scale
of
the
proposed
building
would
be
detrimental
to
the
residential
amenity
and
character
of
the
locality
even
having
regard
to
the
future
intended
increased
medium
density,
built
form
and
the
impacts
of
approving
developments
of
such
overbearing
form
would
be
likely
to
amount
to
an
undesirable
local
development
pattern
and
we're
seeing
that
happening,
and
especially
now
with
the
development
applications
that
are
coming
in
with
two
three
four
times:
the
density
that
now
are
getting
to
residential
density,
eight,
which
is
the
highest
in
the
town
plan
in
the
city.
A
G
Through
you,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
we
haven't.
I
haven't
seen
these
grounds
so
just
in
going
through
the
the
items
that
council
macdonald
has
just
raised.
Thank
you
item
one.
As
we
know,
the
proposal
would
result
in
unacceptable
over
development
at
the
location
and
item
two
which
stating
at
the
moment
that
it
will
fail
to
satisfy
the
acceptable
outcomes,
as
we
know,
with
the
performance-based
planning
scheme
that
we
have
it's
a
code
assessable
application.
G
In
this
case,
data
has
focused
on
that
next
part,
which
is
part
three
of
the
resolutions
or
the
foreshadow
motion
on
the
screen
there,
which
officers
are
saying
it
does
comply
with
the
city
plan
and
the
provisions
there,
and
particularly
for
6.2.2,
and
it's
talking
about
the
location
to
public
transport,
employment,
consultation
concentrations
and
also
the
capacity
of
infrastructure
which
we
have
assessed
with
our
internal
networks
and
and
that
has
been
deemed
excess,
acceptable,
caitlyn
our
assessment
officer
who
did
a
great
job
on
this
one.
G
She
did
assess
a
lot
of
those
points
and
and
did
address
those
at
committee
last
week.
So.
A
Okay,
councillor
toaster,
you
had
a
question.
B
Yeah,
mr
my
question
actually
relates
to
throughout
the
report.
There
is
the
this
this
situation,
where
an
acceptable
outcome
isn't
proposed
by
the
applicant,
and
so
instead
of
assessing
the
application
against
accessible
outcomes,
it's
assessed
against
performance
outcomes
and
if
you
could
go,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
scrolling
back
to
the
table
that
this
table,
I'm
trying
to
just
wrestle
with
one
example,
which
is
the
communal
open
space.
That
seems
one
almost
one-fifth
of
the
acceptable
outcome.
B
Just
for
my
benefit.
How
can
I
reconcile
the
officer's
perspective
that
a
performance
outcome
has
been
delivered
at
one-fifth
of
the
acceptable
outcomes,
space
and
and
the
the
page
that
I'm
kind
of
referring
to
is
around
170-175
and
I've
read
it,
but
it
seems
incredibly
subjective,
and
it
occurs
to
me
that
as
we're
considering
this
application
and
the
performance
outcomes
being
assessed
by
an
officer
that,
as
elected
officials
expected
to
also
interpret
subjective
performance
outcomes,
it's
a
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
just
assess
why
one-fifth
of
the
acceptable
outcome
is
acceptable.
G
Three,
mr
mayor
councillor,
jose
page
173
of
the
report,
does
talk
to
the
communal
open
space.
So
we
can
see
what
we
have
is
the
acceptable
outcome,
which
is
the
more
quantified
the
numbers
that
are
in
that
third
column
of
the
table
there.
If
the
applicants
aren't
meeting
that
with
their
proposals,
they
would
then
go
into
the
performance
outcomes
you
can
see.
It
is
a
lot
more
broad,
counsellortozer
and
and
the
statements
there.
So
it
goes
from
a
to
h.
G
Officers
have
then
undertaken
that
assessment
against
that,
so
one
of
them
would
be
number
a
is:
is
accessible,
usable
and
safe.
So
then
officers
go
through
that
and
do
an
assessment
against
that.
What
you'll,
also
see
on
page
175
is
a
calculation
that
we
have
used
for
many
years
in
relation
to
communal
open
space
provision,
and
it
is
something
that
we
did
address
at
committee
last
week.
G
What
we
are
seeing
on
ground
and
also
in
relation
to
that
that
calculation,
that
you
see
on
175
a
misalignment
is
there,
so
we
are
fixing
that
up
in
in
the
proposed
amendments,
but
for
the
assessment
here
the
officers
have
deemed
that
it
is
in
accordance
with
the
performance
outcomes,
absolutely
accept
that
planning
is
sometimes
very
subjective,
but
with
these
they
are
pretty
straight
and
pretty
clear.
So
I'm
comfortable
with
the
assessment
there
so.
B
Can
I
follow
up
with
a
question
yeah
so
so
again,
I'm
just.
I
accept
that
answer
and
I
think
that
that
helps
me
out
by
directing
me
to
those
pages,
but
I
just
the
acceptable
outcomes
seem
so
strict,
and
yet
the
performance
outcomes
do
seem
so
subjective
when
we
do
adopt
these
next.
You
mentioned
in
your
answer
the
city
plan
amendments.
Is
it
two
and
three
does
those
do
those
changes
that
we're
considering
separate
to
this
application?
B
You
know
it
occurs
to
me
that
we're
not
lawfully
obliged
to
consider
this
application
against
what
we're
thinking
about
doing
in
city
plan
amendment
two
and
three
we're
really
bound
to
the
current
city
plan
in
front
of
us,
but
if
we
are
to
think
about
the
way
with
the
city
is
moving
forward
in
city
plan
amendment
two
and
three
is
the
acceptable
outcome
likely
to
reduce
significantly
or
increase
and
by
what?
To
what
extent.
G
Through
mr
mayor
council
today,
I'd
have
to
take
it
on
notice
for
the
exact
square
meters,
but
it
does
reduce.
It
does
reduce
the
amount,
but
the
way
performance-based
plenty
of
schemes
are
structured,
and
if
we
go
to
the
minister's
rules
and
guidelines
for
the
structure
of
city
plans,
is
you
always
have
a
more
broader
performance
outcome
with
a
more
quantified
acceptable
outcome,
so
that
is
very
standard
with
planning
schemes
across
queensland,
and
that
is
obviously
how
we
have
drafted
any
future
amendments
and
this
city
plan
version
that
we've
got
here
as
well.
J
Can
I
ask
two
questions
to
the
director?
The
first
one
is:
do
the
recommended
conditions
comply
with
the
performance
based
in
the
performance
based
outcomes
in
the
table.
G
J
So
it
complies
with
the
city
plan,
not
the
future
city
plan,
but
the
current
city
plan,
mr
man
and
then
the
second
question
was
one
that
was
asked
at
committee
and
that
was
in
regards
to
refusal
based
on
density.
Has
the
city
ever
had
any
success
in
refusing
anything
based
on
density.
G
Through
you,
mr
mayor
council
and
jones,
I
don't
believe
so.
We
did
speak
about
that
afterwards
with
councillor
caldwell
as
well.
What
we
did
talk
about
at
committee
was
generally,
if
we
have
the
the
setbacks
right,
the
built
form
provisions
right
in
the
city
plan.
Everything
moves
into
that
building.
We
should
be
pretty
comfortable
so
generally
in
a
in
a
court
setting
or
an
appeal
setting.
G
F
Yeah
look
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
brief
contribution,
and
that
is
to
when
you
look
at
that
table
up
there,
you
can
see
that
the
setbacks
are
actually
compliant
with
the
ao,
which
is
the
stricter
of
the
two
columns,
if
you
like,
so
it's
complied
with
the
io,
but
it's
even
in
doing
that.
It's
pushed
it
outside
the
site
cover
by
a
small
amount,
so
one
metric
is
actually
still
the
result
of
the
compliance
with
another
one,
and
I
just
wanted
to
draw
some
attention
to
the
communal
open
space,
which
I
accept
on
paper.
F
It
looks
like
there's
a
huge
shortfall
which
there
is,
but
to
give
that
some
context,
the
1564
square
metres
is
the
equivalent
to
one
and
a
quarter,
olympic-sized
swimming
pools
of
recreational
area.
Now.
The
reason
we
have
performance-based
planning
is
because
we
just
need
to
cast
the
common
sense
view
of
the
world
over
that.
F
So
the
reason
we
have
the
performance-based
planning
is
to
see
whether
or
not
what's
proposed
is
actually
meeting
the
performance
requirements
of
the
development
for
these
residents
and
for
our
city,
and
so
just
to
give
that
some
context.
We
can
see
that
the
amount
of
recreational
open
space
being
one
and
a
quarter
olympic-sized
swimming
pools
is
actually
greater
than
the
entire
site
that
we're
talking
about,
which
makes
it
virtually
impossible
to
deliver.
A
Anyone
speak
against
emotion,
council,
tozo,.
B
I
I
I
think
council
club
was
comments
really
interesting
and
I'm
I
came
into
this
meeting
today
with
an
open
mind,
mr
mayor,
as
I'm
sure
all
of
us
did
and
and
I'm
interested
in
seeing
that
table
because
at
the
same
time
as
our
current
city
plan,
I
was
very
interested
in
seeing
the
table,
but
at
the
same
time,
as
our
current
city
plan
identifying
that
in
the
vicinity
of
1500
square
meters
of
communal,
open
space
is
required
as
an
acceptable
outcome.
B
This
applicant
has
not
only
reduced
that
by
approximately
400,
so
one-fifth
but
they've
also
increased
the
density
by
three
times
or
thereabouts,
and
I
there
are
more
people
living
in
the
in
or
proposed
to
be
living
in
the
building
than
our
city
plan
proposes,
but
there's
also
less
communal
open
space.
Now
I
struggle
with
the
idea
that
our
city
plan
is
not
common
sense.
B
I
think
previous
councils
determined
the
city
plan
that
we
are
considering
today
and
the
suggestion
that
they
didn't
have
common
sense,
because
1500
square
metres
was
the
communal
open
space,
I
think,
is
problematic
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
Effectively
is
suggesting
that
elected
officials
aren't
using
their
common
sense
when
it
comes
to
acceptable
outcomes,
and
I
think
sometimes
we
do
kind
of
use
yeah.
B
Maybe
I'm
making
a,
maybe
I'm
making
an
extrapolation
of
what
was
said,
but
I
think
it's
problematic
to
say
that
what
I
do
think
is
that
the
applicant
has
ambitiously
proposed
almost
a
tripling
of
bed
density
in
this
building,
at
the
same
time
as
only
proposing
one-fifth,
the
communal
open
space
and,
frankly,
that
is
not
a
message
that
we
should
be
sending
to
any
member
of
the
public
or
any
applicant
that
that's
generally
acceptable.
B
We
do
need
to
adjust
our
city
plan
to
make
it
more
common
sense.
Perhaps,
but
what
we
have
right
now
is
a
message
we
are
sending
well
done,
sue
a
message.
We
are
sending
to
applicants
that
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
is
okay
and
until
we
have
made
the
necessary
amendments
to
our
city
plan.
In
amendments
two
and
three
that
the
director
mentioned
before,
we
need
to
send
a
message
saying:
that's,
not:
okay,
it's
not
okay,
to
increase
density
by
three.
B
At
the
same
time
as
reducing
committal
open
space
by
a
proportion
of
five
or
thereabouts,
it's
not
okay.
We
can't
let
it
be
okay
and
frankly,
I
I
think
we
should
actually
refuse
this
application.
I'm
convinced
by
councillor
mcdonald's
argument
based
on
that
table
today,
that
we
should
refuse
it,
despite
the
advice
that
we've
received
about
having
not
been
successful
on
on
on
refusing
these
in
court
before
this
is.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
I'll
close,
not
in
regards
to
the
foreshadowed
motion,
but
in
regards
to
the
motion
that's
actually
before
us,
and
that
is
to
approve
something
that
actually
does
comply
with
the
city
plan.
It
doesn't
comply
with
the
acceptable
outcome,
but
it
does
comply
with
the
next
two
higher
levels
of
assessment,
which
is
the
performance,
the
performance-based
outcomes
and
even
above
that
is
the
strategic
outcome.
J
So,
mr
mayor,
at
the
last
round
of
council,
this
council
voted
fourteen
one
to
approve
a
code
accessible
application
of
the
same
height
with
185
units
in
an
area
at
hope,
island
which
is
designated
for
the
same
type
of
density.
So
we
can't
cherry
pick
the
bits
of
the
plan
that
we
like
or
don't
like.
We
actually
have
to
follow
the
plan
so
and
the
plan
cannot
be
read
at
a
at
a
low
level
and
just
accept
that
if
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
acceptable
outcomes,
it
is
therefore
not
complying.
J
That's
just
the
first
gate
if
it
doesn't
meet
that
gate.
It
then
goes
to
the
next
gate,
which
is
the
performance
outcomes,
and
that
is
how
it's
been
since
performance-based
planning
schemes
were
introduced
into
the
state
legislation
and
that's
what
we
have
to
follow.
We
can't
just
make
stuff
up
so,
mr
mayor,
this
site
has
long
imagined
that
there
would
be
height
since
1993.
J
There
could
have
been
an
impact,
accessible
application
for
at
least
seven
stories.
This
is
nine
stories
that
nine
stories
has
been
imagined
since
the
introduction
of
the
2016
scheme
and
that's
what
we
have
to
follow,
mr
mayor.
So
we
if
we
want
to
have
different
outcomes,
we
need
to
be
in
the
room
when
the
strategic
plan
is
being
implemented
and
discussed,
rather
than
being
upset
about
outcomes
that
are
imagined
by
a
city
plan.
That's
adopted
by
the
community.
I
Mr
mayor,
I've
been
advised
by
the
officers
that
the.
I
There
was
the
ias
and
pas
I've
been
given
a
list
that
weren't
met
so
that
all
the
performance
based
outcomes,
weren't
met
and-
and
also
I
missed
me-
the
it's
in
height,
not
in
stories,
and
in
fact
I
have
council
documents
here
to
say
that
29
metres,
which
is
in
this
particular
area,
is
actually
seven
stories,
not
nine.
Okay,.
A
I
A
Have
a
second
second
council
vorstar
go
ahead
and.
I
I
Construction
sites
have
been
impacted
by
basement
construction
piling,
and
I
think
that
this
could
go
a
long
way
in
assisting
those
adjacent
property
owners.
So
I
think
this
is
a
step
forward
with
this
particular
guideline
that's
in
place,
and
I
do
thank
the
city
planning
and
also
the
officer
who
put
this
has
been
going
now
for
probably
18
months.
I
suppose
so
I'd
just
like
to
say
thank
you
for
for
this.
I'm
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
welcome
not
only
by
the
residents
of
this
city,
but
also
from
the
industry.
Okay,.
H
No,
it's
not
a
question,
mr
mayor,
but
I
think
there's
a
jamaica.
Well,
I
think
there's
an
important
caveat
on
what
councillor
macdonald
has
said
and
it's
captured
in
part
two.
So
I
raised
my
hand
looking
for
an
opportunity
to
to
put
that
important
facet
on
the
public
record,
but
it's
obviously
up
to
you
to
decide
whether
I
get
that
opportunity.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor
at
committee.
This
item
actually
received
quite
a
lot
of
debate
and
good
debate.
In
fact,
it
was
more
of
a
discussion,
and
one
of
the
points
that
we
arrived
on
is
that
we
have
assembled
as
a
committee
in
working
with
city
officers,
what
constitutes
industry
best
practice,
but
it's
practice.
H
It's
not
industry
requirement
and
the
step
that
committee
took
was
to
add
a
part
two
which
was
not
originally
part
of
the
officer
recommendation,
and
it
reads
as
follows
that
the
city
provide
a
copy
of
this
report
and
guidelines
to
the
department
of
housing,
public
works
and
energy
for
consideration
during
any
future
update
of
the
relevant
building
codes.
I
think
it's
really
important,
as
we
manage
expectations
in
the
community
to
make
the
point
that
council
has
done
absolutely
everything
it
can
to
deal
with
this
issue.
H
But
if
residents
and
the
palm
beach
community
and
coastal
communities
are
interested
in
putting
council
in
a
position
where
we
can
begin
enforcing
these
best
practices
by
the
development
approval
condition,
then
it
requires
the
state
government
to
come
to
the
party.
So
we'll
do
that
as
a
council
and
any
concerned,
pockets
of
the
community
should
be
doing
the
same
through
their
local
state,
mp's
offices.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
speaking
against
the
motion
council,
mcdonald's
you'd
like
to
close
no
counselors,
I
put
the
motion
to
you.
Oh
info
show:
hands
against
carrie
unanimous
councillor,
callwell.
F
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I'm
happy
to
move
the
that
the
minutes
of
the
planning
and
environment
committee's
recommendations
be
adopted.
With
the
exception
of
items
two
and
three,
I
think
it
was
three.
F
Three
and
three
and
four
three
and
four
be
adopted,
with
the
exception
of
those
items,
three
and
four
that
were
separately
resolved.
A
J
A
Council
patterson
put
the
motion
to
you:
owen:
face
your
hands
against
carrie
any
items
separately,
council
and
jones.
C
Not
from
me,
mr
man,
all
right,
council.
H
Votes
back.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
I
had
a
question
pertaining
to
item
11.
It
won't
require
us
to
go
into
closed
session,
but
it's
most
appropriately.
I
think
answered
by
the
director
for
planning
and
environment.
Okay.
H
Okay,
go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
Mr
mayor,
I
have
a
question
through
you
to
the
director
for
planning
and
environment
director.
I've
had
cases
in
my
own
community,
where
the
state
government
have
being
land
owners,
progressed
developments
without
opting
into
a
council
approval
process
that
could
deal
with
issues.
For
example,
parking
transport.
I
could
go
on
public
transport
need
fettering
our
ability
to
curate
a
development
outcome
and
properly
integrate
a
development
into
a
community
and
again
without
referring
to
the
content
of
the
report
of
the
location.
H
What
have
you,
but
merely
to
what's
already
in
the
public
domain
in
the
case
of
a
state
hospital,
what
ability
do
we
have
through
the
planning
act?
2016
and
the
planning
regulation
2017
to
assess
an
application
for
a
hospital
by
the
state
government
on
state
government
owned
land?
Thank
you
all
right.
G
Through
you,
mr
mayor
councillor,
vorster
to
be
honest
council
of
wall
street
would
depend
on
what
what
mechanism
the
state
government
wanted
to
use
to
undertake
that
process.
So,
typically,
sometimes
they
will
provide
us
an
opportunity
to
provide
comment.
G
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
when
we
provide
those
comments
that
they're
taking
into
consideration
and
we've
seen
one
in
your
division
recently
in
in
that
exact
situation,
the
state
government
could
do
different
things
and
typically
with
hospitals.
They'd
do
what's
called
a
ministerial
designation.
It
just
really
depends
at
that
time.
G
We
are
getting
better
relationships
in
terms
of
working
with
them
earlier
on,
but
there's
a
number
of
mechanisms
that
they
could
choose.
That
wouldn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
needed
to
comply
with
our
city
plan.
H
H
Council's
involvement
in
the
development
process
a
condition
of
the
sale,
and
I
don't
want
to
prejudge
whether
that's
a
good
idea
or
not,
but
I'm
just
interested
to
know
whether,
despite
a
condition
on
the
sale
contract
that
may
protect
that
local
amenity,
the
state
government
could
nonetheless
override
us
yeah.
So
I
suppose
I
just
want
to
get
an
idea
of
whether
putting
it
as
a
condition
of
sale
can
allow
us
to
protect
amenity
in
that
neighborhood.
Sorry,.
G
Through
you,
mr
mayor,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
appropriate
in
the
first
instance
to
try
and
place
that
sort
of
condition
on
this
contract
sale.
Additionally,
the
designation
isn't
reliant
upon
the
state
owning
the
land,
so
they
can
designate
a
particular
area
and
do
it
then
the
approval
process
through
their
mechanisms
and
not
have
to
get
an
approval
through
council.
H
So,
having
received
answers
to
those
questions,
I'd
like
an
opportunity
to
very
briefly
and
non-confidentially
speak
against
it.
Obviously
that
relies
on
someone
moving
and
seconding
it.
Thank
you.
Okay,
councillor.
C
Owen
jones,
mr
mayor
I'll,
move
it.
J
J
So
I
think
that
we
are
far
better
off
being
involved
in
negotiations
that
might
see
a
favorable
outcome
for
our
ratepayers
in
regards
to
the
contract
of
sale
than
having
them
do
some
compulsory
acquisition
for
us,
and
it
was
raised
at
committee
the
the
need
to
continue
to
invest
in
community
facilities,
and
I
don't
think
there
is
a
bigger
community
facility
that
a
state
government
can
be
invested
in
than
the
health
care
and
hospitals.
J
H
A
Council
and
jones
you'd
like
to
close
okay
put
the
motion
to
you
all
in
face
show
hands
against
gary.
You
want
to
record
it.
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
smith,
could
you
record
council
vorster
negative,
any
other
items,
councillor
owen
jones.
J
A
C
A
A
A
A
C
This
may
you'll
recall
this
matter
was
referred
to
council
today,
so
we
didn't
have
to
deal
with
it
budget
last
week
and
the
item
is
in
relation
to
community
grants
and
there's
an
application
been
submitted
by
the
knowing
community
association
who
are
auspicing.
The
narang
celebrates
christmas
event
this
year
and
I'm
a
personal
friend
of
three
members
of
the
committee
of
the
norah
community
association,
and
so
I'm
making
the
declaration
appropriately
and
I'm
seeking
council's
consent
to
stay
in
the
room
and
vote
on
the
matter.
C
I'll
just
add,
if
I
can,
mr
mayor,
the
marine
community
association
itself
is
not
the
organizer
of
the
event.
It
is
one
member
of
an
organizing
committee
and
historically
this
money
has
been
provided
to
them.
A
E
A
A
E
A
A
D
We
have
a
young
woman
named
gloria
who's,
been
working
in
the
building
since
the
introduction
of
covert
and
the
measures
that
we've
needed
to
take
in
our
city
to
keep
our
facilities,
nice
and
clean,
and
many
of
us
have
probably
seen
gloria
moving
about
this
building
polishing
the
door
handles
and
the
railings.
And
what
have
you
and
she's
a
36
year
old
woman?
Who
is
a
fully
qualified
teacher
and
is
doing
this
job
at
the
moment,
because
she
needs
to
she's
from
brazil
and
her
parents
both
lived
in
brazil
and
on
monday
of
last
week.
D
So
our
sympathy
to
gloria
I'll
get
further
details
for
the
message,
mr
mayor,
but
on
behalf
of
us
all
our
most
sincere
thing
with
sympathy.
Second
counsel.
A
B
Oh
mr
management,
gloria
has
been
I've
had
a
number
of
conversations,
but
I
think
our
actual
family
of
colombian,
but
I'm
not
positive
about
that.
But
my
pa
and
gloria
speak
portuguese
regularly
in
the
office
and
it's
been
very
sad
to
see
her
all
right.