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Hello,
so
welcome,
everybody
seems
like
we've
got
more
than
a
full
complement,
which
is
great.
There
are
only
three
items.
One
of
those,
of
course,
is
the
confirmation
of
minutes
which
is
starred,
so
unless
anyone
wanted
one
star
that,
for
any
reason,
no
that's
good
conflicts
of
interest.
I
don't
believe
that
we
have
any.
So,
no
that's
all
good.
So
what
I
might
do
is
actually
get
someone
to
move
that
starred
item.
If
I
can
counsel
tozer
secondary
counselor
taylor
take
the
vote
on
that.
A
B
A
C
B
Through
mr
chair,
we
have
engaged
there,
we've
also
engaged
in
elt,
so
it's
been
taken
through
elt.
We,
I
think
there
was
some
changes
originally
nick
at
elt,
which
we
did
update
and
change
so
that
that
forms
part
of
this.
So
it's
probably
important
there
too
councilman
jones
to
say
that
corporate
planning
and
performance,
so
sarah
wilton
and
her
team
from
a
council
plan.
D
Yeah
and
I
think
through
you,
mr
chair,
if
it's
okay,
I
think
also
there
was
there's
a
comment
in
there
that
says
that
we
engage
with
an
extensive
list
of
internal
and
external
stakeholders,
and
it
may
have
been
an
error
on
my
behalf,
but
I
really
just
listed
the
internal
stakeholders,
but
there
was
there
was
pro.
There
was
three
external
workshops
that
we
facilitated.
There
was
about
100
people
that
participated
in
those
workshops.
D
So
this
document,
or
the
draft
of
this
document,
was
the
longer
form
version
of
this
document
was
essentially
completed
in
around
about
january
this
year.
But
then
we
put
it
on
hold
pending
the
outcome
of
the
council
plan
once
the
council
plan
was
endorsed.
We've
now
brought
this
back
for
council's
consideration.
So
I
wasn't
going
to
talk
too
much
through
the
details.
It
was
more
about
just
to
explain
that
process
the
engagement
process
that
we've
been
through
the
conversations
that
we've
had
and
then
happy
to
take
any
questions.
D
B
B
It's
probably
good
to
you
know
for
the
general
public
reading
this
so
that
they
know
that
the
community
have
been
consulted
and
who's
been
consulted.
So
I'd
just
like
to
suggest
mr
chair
for
future
or
even
if
it
can
be
included
here,
but
it's
made
quite
clear.
The
groups
and
officers
that
have
been
involved
in
this
consultation
carrier.
Mr
chair,
we're
happy
to
do
a
list
councilman
donald
and
include
that
in
the
minutes
too.
So
we
can.
We
can
do
that.
E
D
Yeah
through
you,
mr
chair,
thanks
councillor
hamill.
So
the
thinking
there
is
that,
for
example,
when
it
came
up
in
a
we
have
regular
catch-ups
with
destination
gold,
coast
study,
gold
coast
and
major
events,
gold
coast
and
and
one
of
the
topics
of
conversation
that
came
up
with
them,
is
that
we
all
have
our
own
international
programs
and
we
all
have
our
own
specific
international
markets
that
we
target.
D
So
the
idea
of
developing
an
international
economic
development
program
was
about
us
getting
more
collaborative
with
those
different
organizations
and
making
sure
that
the
different
events
that
we're
going
to
have
a
direct
connection
to
those
sorts
of
markets
that
we
want
to
target
and
then
as
much
as
possible.
Each
of
those
different
agencies
and
all
those
relevant
external
stakeholders
are
working
together
really
collaboratively
in
those
kinds
of
international
opportunities.
D
I
think,
from
my
perspective
and
having
only
been
here
for
a
year,
but
the
the
trip
that
we
recently
went
on
to
the
uk
is
probably
the
best
example
of
that,
because
study
gold
coast
destination
gold
coast
and
megc
we're
all
a
part
of
that.
So
it's
it's
trying
to
build
on
those
sorts
of
opportunities
to
become
more
targeted
in
a
collaborative
way
in
the
markets
that
we
target,
so
we
can
get
greater
bang
for
our
buck.
Essentially,
yeah.
D
D
I
mean
that
through
you,
mr
chair,
again,
there's
a
range
of
it's
increasing.
The
number
of
people
with
tertiary
qualifications
is
one
way
or
one
of
the
best
ways
that
we
can
measure
that
we're
starting
to
generate
the
right
sort
of
workforce
to
match
the
needs
within
industry.
So
I
mean
a
lot
of
the
things
that
are
in
the
talented
space.
There
are
actions
there
that
wouldn't
be
things
that
we
would
have
direct
control
over
it's
more
about
how
we
work
with
organizations
like
study
gold
coast,
how
we
can
work
with
the
universities.
D
So
it's
those
sorts
of
partnerships
and
it's
more
about
our
role
and
how
we
facilitate
those
partnerships
to
connect
industry
with
education
providers
to
try
to
make
sure
that
the
workforce
is
getting
the
right
sorts
of
skills
to
be
able
to
match
the
jobs
that
we
require.
So
it's
about
us
trying
to
facilitate
those
kind
of
connections.
Council,
haml.
E
So
it's
probably
a
good
segue
into
my
next
question,
mr
chair,
but
there
was
a
broad
consultation
piece
done
around
this
work
and
a
stronger
emphasis
to
normal,
put
on
collaboration
and
engagement
with
private
sector.
So
I
was
hoping
nick
could
give
a
little
bit
of
maybe
a
general
overview
of
like
in
this.
It's
all
wrapped
up
into
one
lot
and
it's
a
bit
hard
to
differentiate.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
probably
the
two
that
jump
out
to
me.
The
most
is
that
talented
piece
so-
and
you
would
all
be
familiar
with
this,
but
and
because
it's
been
going
on
well
beyond
just
the
consultation
that
we
did
around
the
development
of
this
strategy,
the
challenges
that
industry
are
facing
in
getting
access
to
a
readily
available,
readily
available
and
suitably
skilled
workforce.
So
access
to
a
workforce
that
is
ready
to
go
is
probably
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
and
and
some
of
the
businesses
and
industries
out
there
that
are
doing
quite
innovative.
D
Things,
like
I
touched
on
before
with
the
australian
industry,
trade
college
and
the
sorts
of
work
that
study
gold
coast
does
that's
probably
the
biggest
issue.
I've
also
been
part
of
a
jobs
committee
that
gold
coast
rda
has
led
which
is
sort
of
looking
at
how
government
industry
can
work
together
around
some
of
those
solutions
to
do
with
fixing
some
of
the
job
related
challenges.
So
that
talented
piece
is
probably
the
number
one
issue.
But
beyond
that
that
sort
of
connected
piece
is
probably
one
of
the
other
bigger
things
that
industry
spoke
to
us.
D
So
I
think
I
apologize
that's
a
pretty
long-winded
answer,
but
that's
probably
the
main
things
that
I
recall
coming
from
consultation
and
not
just
through
that
process
but,
as
I
said
through
all
the
engagement
that
we've
done
with
industry
at
different
stages.
You
know,
since
those
initial
workshops.
E
I
don't
think
was
a
long
answer,
mr
chair.
Actually,
it
was
a
good
answer
because
it
clearly
pointed
out
there
has
been
a
lot
of
work
done
with
dealing
with
private
sector,
because
in
the
end
we
can
only
pull
70
levers
and,
if
we're
not
prepared
to
genuinely
work
with
them,
which
brings
me
next
question
was.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
here
about
the
need
for
that
to
continue
in
the
future?
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
no,
I
don't
think
it's.
I
don't
think
it's
an
issue.
I
think
it's
absolutely
a
priority
for
us,
because,
from
my
perspective,
we've
we've
always
operated
under
the
idea
that,
if
we're
not
engaging
with
industry
and
the
sorts
of
things
that
we're
doing
are
not
informed
by
what
industry
is
telling
us,
then
we
probably
shouldn't
be
doing
them
in
the
first
place.
Everything
that
we
should
be
do
should
be
based
on
conversations
and
advice.
We
get
from
industry
and
there's
a
few
different
things
in
here.
D
One
is
around
the
idea
of
an
industry
advisory
group
that
we
engage
with
on
a
more
regular
basis
to
give
us
greater
level
of
information
and
connection
to
some
of
those
different
sorts
of
challenges
that
are
being
experienced
in
the
local
economy.
So
I
guess
that's
a
starting
point,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we're
really
keen
to
embed
in
everything
we
do
is
that
that
level
of
engagement
with
industry
to
ensure
whatever
we
do
is
informed
by
information
we're
getting
from
industry.
E
E
It
refers
to
a
conservative
and
achievable
kind
of
goal,
whereas
in
others
it
talks
to
one,
that's
probably
more,
of
a
reach
goal
on
the
push.
So
I
was
just
interested
if
that
in
nick's
opinion
as
the
author,
but
just
on,
maybe
when
it
went
through
elt
or
went
through
internal
stakeholders
or
external
stakeholders.
If
there
were
some
of
those
targets,
he
felt
maybe
were
a
little
bit
low
that
we
should
be
looking
to
reach
a
little
bit
further
reset
slightly
more
ambitious
targets.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I
think
we
deliberately
set
targets
that
we
were.
You
know,
obviously
hoping
that
we're
going
to
be
achievable,
but
I
think
part
of
the
process
is
that
we
will
have
the
opportunity
on
an
annual
basis,
to
review
how
we're
performing
against
those
targets.
So
if
it
looks
like
we're
getting
there
quicker
than
expected,
then
we'll
have
the
opportunity
to
potentially
review
those
up
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
grow
them
and
expand
on
those.
D
If
we
need
to,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I'm
really
quite
proud
of,
especially
that
the
team
in
ivanka's
area
have
developed,
is
there's
not
too
many
economic
strategies
that
I've
come
across,
that
set
targets
that
relate
to
things
like
gross
regional
product
or
how
we're
going
to
grow
certain
industries
or
the
jobs-to-worker
ratios,
and
things
like
that
so
and
the
reason
that
most
cities
don't
normally
do.
That
is
because
we
don't.
We
clearly
don't
have
complete
control
over
each
of
those
different
outcome
measures.
D
So,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we're
identifying
actions
that
can
contribute
towards
those
outcome
measures
and
that
we
get
to
review
those
on
an
annual
basis
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
towards
them
really
well
and
if
we
need
to
increase
them
or
if
we
need
to
also
consider
bringing
them
down
and
that
we
would
come
back
to
council
on
an
annual
basis.
With
that
information.
E
Mr
chair,
I
would
agree
with
nick's
comments
that
and
compared
to
the
existing
strategy
that
were
possibly
about
to
retire.
There
was
one
thing
missing:
was
there
really
wasn't
much
in
the
way
of
kpis?
It
meant
much.
There's
definitely
more
in
this
one
to
measure
success
against
on
page
just
in
relation
on
page
46,
so
appendix
3,
the
related
city
strategies.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I'm
not
across
a
specific
conversation
around
that
one,
but
we
have
we've
got
a
working
group
established
with
water
and
waste
at
the
moment.
That's
looking
at
business
attraction
opportunities
to
do
with
you,
know,
waste
and
water
and
and
the
broader
circular
economy.
So
I'm
not
across
that
one
specifically,
but
we
have
established
a
pretty
strong
connection
with
them
over
the
last
sort
of
six
months
or
so
so
that's
something
that
we
can
explore
further
and
make
sure
that
it's
being
considered
as
part
of
this
whole
process.
E
Yeah,
sorry,
that
would
be
good
that
just
that
one,
that
only
just
come
to
the
last
committee,
where
we
were
shown
some
information
around
a
very
large
fund.
That's
now
available
from
the
state
government
that
is
part
of
that
process,
not
being
part
of
comsec,
might
be
a
problem
for
us
and
just
start
in
looking
at
identified
risks
for
this
strategy.
That
probably
needs
to
be
included.
E
The
other
one-
and
this
might
be
a
question
mr
chair,
either
for
nick
or
for
the
director
around
another
risk.
I
see
and
related
strategies,
number
eight's
city
plan
and
the
current
hold
up
with
amendment
packages
and
then
the
subsequent
hold
up
of
other
ones.
Because
of
that
of
just
how
big
a
risk
we
see
that
being
to
this
economic
strategy,
whoever
wants
to
have
a
go.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
so
again
I
don't
see
it.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
work,
that's
going
on
in
that
productive
gold
coast
space,
that's
being
facilitated
by
city
planning,
which
they've
been
actively
engaging
us
in
that
process,
especially
to
understand
those
sorts
of
target
industries
and
and
priorities.
So
I
can't
sort
of
comment
at
this
stage.
I
suppose
tomorrow
I'll
have
to
be
able
to
comment,
but
around
the
the
major
amendments.
D
B
Through
you,
mr
chair
council,
hamill,
I
think
from
if
you
look
at
the
city
planning
space.
What
we've
continually
tried
to
do
in
the
future
is
make
sure
that
if
there's
amendments
needed
so
if
we
were
looking
at
the
strategy-
and
we
said
well
actually
that
needs
to
change
that-
we're
nimble,
we're
agile,
we're
able
to
do
it.
So
everything
that
we've
been
leading
to,
particularly
after
amendment
two
and
three
allows
us.
I
don't
have
any
concerns
with
it.
E
That
is
good
to
hear,
and
it
is
about
it's
not
so
much
in
member
package,
two
and
three
it
is
than
the
ones
after
that
which
I
think
will
look
very
different
to
what
they
were.
Looking
like
a
couple
years
ago,
final
question,
mr
chair:
with
this
strategy
and
the
implementation
plans
to
come
behind
it,
I
think
it's
fairly
obvious.
There's
going
to
be
a
resource
increase
to
come
with
it.
D
Through
you,
mr
chair,
so
we've
we've
obviously
developed
the
plan
on
a
page.
We've
done
the
sort
of
longer
form
version
of
the
strategy.
The
team
have
also
been
working
really
hard
on
work
plans
around
each
of
the
different
priority
areas
and
we've
sort
of
mapped
that
out
from
a
costing
point
of
view,
and
the
next
stage
for
us
really
is
understanding
what
impact
that's
going
to
have,
from
a
reason,
point
of
view.
Resourcing
point
of
view
we're
quite
confident
that
we've
got
the
funding
available
to
implement.
D
What
we
need
to
implement,
but
probably
the
greatest
risk
to
us
is
is
just
whether
we've
got
either
enough
resources
or
resources
targeted
in
the
right
areas
to
focus
on
implementing
all
these
things.
So
that's
something
that
we
are
hoping
to
have
completed
over
the
next
sort
of
month,
in
all
reality,
to
be
able
to
really
determine
where
we're
at,
in
terms
of
how
we
resource
any
of
the
gaps
that
we
don't
currently
have
funding
or
resources
to
deliver.
E
E
Definitely
in
my
next
responses,
mr
chair,
it's
very
obvious
that
he
is
well
and
truly
across
the
brief
on
this
one
for
me-
and
this
probably
goes
in
a
more
general
debate,
but
we've
got
the
overall
strategy.
What's
next
is
the
actual
plans
about
the
implemented
sure
there's
lots
of
great
ideas
in
here
that
I
can
support,
but
at
the
moment
there
are
any
words
in
a
document.
It's
what
it
actually
looks
like
in
practice
for
the
next
couple
years,
especially
for
me,
the
big
one
is
around
that
stakeholder
engagement
with
industry.
D
And
through
you,
mr
chair,
so
one
thing
that
we've
also
spoken
about
as
a
team
is
that
at
the
moment
we
have
a
tendency
to
primarily
come
to
committee
with
items
that
relate
to
business
attraction.
When
we're
seeking
your
endorsement
for
new
businesses
moving
into
the
city,
we
we
actually
want
to
come
back
to
committee
on
a
more
regular
basis
with
some
of
these
different
projects,
to
seek
your
endorsement
and
to
keep
you
in
the
loop
on
these
sorts
of
initiatives,
so
you're
part
of
that
process.
D
The
whole
way
along
there's
a
lot
of
different
initiatives
in
here
that
we
won't
be
able
to
implement
without
your
endorsement
anyway.
Regardless
of
you
know,
once
the
hopefully,
the
strategy
is
endorsed
as
the
plan
on
the
page.
We
would
still
need
to
come
back
to
you
and
come
back
to
you
for
your
consideration
of
some
of
these
initiatives.
Anyway,
as
I
say,
I
think
it's
definitely
a
priority
for
us
to
get
in
front
of
committee
on
a
more
regular
basis,
with
the
sorts
of
things
that
relate
to
this
strategy.
A
E
E
A
Well
said
absolutely
and
tania,
as
you
say,
had
the
team
and
the
ontanya
as
well.
So
there's
quite
a
few
people
been
behind
this,
so
you
really
have
done
a
fantastic
job,
so
echo
that
so
councillor
tozo.
If
there's
no
one
else
wanted
to
to
speak,
I
think
you
opened
and
closed
her.
Yes,
you
did.
Okay,
okay,
always
goes
we'll
we'll
take
the
vote,
all
those
in
favor
that
is
carried.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
councillors.
We
have
one
more
item.
This
item
was
originally
going
to
go
to
lifestyle
and
community
and
the
and
it
was
there-
was
a
need
for
this
to
actually
come
through
a
bit
quicker.
So
that's
why
it's
come
here
and
which-
and
I
think
it
should
probably
sit
here
anyway
personally,
but
there
we
go
it's
another
another
matter.
A
A
Yeah
yeah
look,
this
is
this
is
basically
looking
at
the
music
action
plan,
which
of
course,
has
been
in
place
for
just
a
little
under
four
years
and
we
basically
lost
a
year
of
to
everything
with
with
covert
had
a
big
impact.
So
this
is
just
looking
at
where
we've
gone
over
the
last
four
years
and
the
goals
we've
kicked
and
and
where
we're
heading.
So
it's
a
really
good
report.
I
don't
know
if
it
would
you
like
a
presentation
just
a
quick
overview.
G
G
It
looked
at
opportunities
to
grow
the
reputation
of
our
music
artists
venues
and
our
infrastructure
and
was
bold
enough
to
suggest
regulatory
change
to
help
live
music
remain
front
and
center
in
our
fast
growing
in
our
fast-changing
city,
but
I
think,
most
importantly,
the
plan
identified
what
we
as
a
council
could
do
to
help
the
industry
and
the
fact
we
had
our
hands
up
ready
to
take
the
lead.
I
believe-
that's
probably
the
most
impressive
outcome
that
this
plan
has
done,
and
we've
received
a
lot
of
national
recognition
for
doing
that.
G
Like
many
things
where
you
seek
a
major
change,
a
lot
of
work
is
focused
on
the
back
end
and
that's
ongoing.
Definitely
with
with
what
we're
doing
at
the
moment
as
we
aspire
to
be
a
live
music
friendly
city,
one,
that's
open
for
business,
but
the
fundamental
support
the
map
provided
businesses
and
individuals
within
the
music
scene
in
the
gold
coast
is
undoubtable.
G
Is
it
undeniable
covert
19
hit
the
music
industry
really
hard
and
significantly
impacted
how
the
map
was
delivered,
as
well
as
councillor
lycastra
said,
but
as
fate
would
have
it,
the
music
action
plan
framework
that
was
in
place
made
it
much
easier
for
us
to
adapt
and
pivot,
really
quite
quickly
to
offer
timely
and
appropriate
support
where
we
could
we
pivoted
networking
and
support
to
online.
Even
now,
some
of
our
live
showcases
were
went
online
through
different
platforms.
G
We
also
could
help
artists
grow
their
online
merchandise
product,
which
was
an
incredibly
successful
recovery
program.
We
helped
the
industry
open
up
again
through
the
feedback
festival
and
could
refocus
the
music
business
grants
to
help
adapt
businesses
to
diversify
and
grow
within
the
new
normal
that
was
existing
with
coven.
G
From
a
practical
perspective,
25
actions
of
the
23
were
either
achieved
or
have
commenced
and
are
ongoing,
with
expectation
that
they'll
be
finalized
in
the
next
financial
year.
A
key
example
of
that,
of
course,
is
a
special
entertainment
precinct
work,
and
you
know
you
will
be
hearing
more
about
that
in
in
823
coming
up
early
mid-september.
G
G
All
in
all,
we
put
in
around
3.2
million
dollars
into
directly
into
our
local
music
industry
over
the
last
four
years
that
was
made
up
of
map
lined
investment,
but
also
you
know
there
were
other
activities
that
came
along.
We
had
the
rat
of
grants
that
that
contributed
to
that.
We
also
had
the
the
music
initiative
line
that
we
we
funded
different
activities
through
and
then,
of
course,
that
included
the
feedback
festival,
funding
that
council
endorsed
and
also
the
recovery
program
that
was
endorsed
as
well.
G
G
This
report
actually
looks
at
what
we
do
from
here.
Our
music
advisory
group
met
in
february
with
us
to
talk
through
what
now,
and
I
think
there
was
a
very
clear
message
that
they
felt
that,
given,
I
guess,
covert
but
also
you
know,
there
was
so
much
good
things
that
are
put
in
place
that
the
next
two
years
be
seen
as
a
consolidated
consolidation
period,
where
we
can
really
embed
some
of
this
thinking
and
the
way
we
do
business
into
our
bau
and
our
operational
things.
G
If
we
continue
so
they're
things
like
we
already
fund
the
gold
coast
music
network,
which
is
a
fantastic
organization,
that's
come
out
through
from
the
gold
coast,
music
awards
and
blank
magazine
that
is
funded
through
our
arts
organization,
trineal
funding
and
obviously
that
will
continue.
But
we
will
continue
a
really
open
dialogue
with
that
organization
about
how
they
go
on
to
support
the
sector.
G
Things
like
the
gold
coast
music
awards,
which
is
happening
on
saturday
councilor
tozer,
is
presenting
our
best
new
release
award
at
that,
and
that
is
a
signature
event
that
I
think,
requires
ongoing
investment
and
we
flagged
it
here
as
something
that
the
city
should
look
at
as
something
that
we
continue
to
invest
in
things
like
big
sound
bursaries.
We've
got
a
13,
young
or
aspiring
professionals
going
up
to
big
sound
next
week
who
are
funded
through
the
city.
G
They
will
connect
with
helen
up
there
and
also
all
different
sorts
of
industry
functions
and
things
that
happen
at
big
sound.
So
that
is
something
again
that
I
think
that
our
city
needs
an
active
role
in,
as
I
said,
things
like
the
mentoring
program
is
already
ongoing.
It
goes
for
a
year.
The
walk,
this
way
mentoring
program.
G
So
that's
something
we'd
like
to
continue
with
gig
makers.
That
is
a
group
of
young
people
who
were
involved
in
putting
on
their
first
all-ages
gig.
We
don't
want
to
pull
the
pin
on
them
just
yet.
We
would
like
to
continue
supporting
them
and
we
had
a
long
discussion
with
the
music
advisory
group
about
activate
music,
which
is
a
special
stream
of
funding
that
goes
through
radith,
and
you
know
they
have
a
really
good
point
there.
G
It
really
definitely
helped
highlight
the
opportunities
that
might
exist
for
musicians
much
more
than
it
ever
happened
before,
and
I
think
another
two
years
of
potentially
providing
a
special
stream.
That's
music
focused
and
gets
funded
and
separately.
I
think,
would
really
benefit
in
terms
of
that
transition.
G
G
Obviously
the
special
entertainment
precinct
and
we've
been
working
across
council
across
all
different
departments
in
terms
of
really
understanding
what
outdoor
sites
are
appropriate
for
live
music
and
we
are
looking
at
ways
to
standardize
or
help
our
industry
and
promoters
to
understand
what
types
of
events
are
appropriate
for
what
kinds
of
sites.
So
there
was
five
that
was
four
plus,
maybe
the
surface
paradise
speech
that
was
identified
and
there's
been
some
really
detailed,
acoustic,
modeling
being
done
there
and
draft
music
management
noise
management
conditions
that
are
still
progressing
through
the
different
areas
of
council.
G
From
a
strategic
point
of
view,
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
the
music
infrastructure.
Audit
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
cultural
infrastructure
audit
and
we
were
hoping
that
that
might
continue
as
to
how
our
city
progresses
its
profile
about
access
or
basically
it's
about
access
access
to
arts
and
culture
music
through
the
current
existing
infrastructure
that
we
have
in
this
city,
and
I
think
it's
a
really
important
part.
We
know
we've
got
hotter.
G
G
G
When
industry
is
looking
at
touring
to
the
gold
coast
and
being
more
proactive
in
that
space
in
terms
of
market
attraction
in
the
live
music
space
and
that
again
comes
through
helen's
experience
in
both
live
music
outdoor
sites,
but
also
within
our
existing
infrastructure,
and
how
we
work
with
industry
to
better
at
attract
touring
offerings
and
projects
here
that
aren't
about
the
one-off.
This
is
not
about
one-off
events
that
might
attract
a
different
type
of
economic
impact.
G
We
have
not
had
the
chance
to
engage
with
national
industry
like
we
would
have
liked
to
have
because
of
covert,
but
we
definitely
have
opportunities
coming
up
almost
immediately
where
we
can
invite
international
national
media
industry
to
our
city
to
experience
live
music
and
to
understand
who
our
artists
are,
who
our
audiences
are,
what
kind
of
facilities
we
have
and
that's
a
really
big
priority.
I
think
moving
forward
as
councillor
toza
said,
we
also
are
working
with
sound
pound
to
really
embed
our
local
music
in
our
local
music
products.
G
They
are
interested
in
having
some
sort
of
presence
on
the
gold
coast
and
we
are
interested
in
hosting
them.
Maybe
it
could
look
like
at
the
southport
community
centre.
They
have
a
hot
desk
or
they're
there,
one
day
a
month
or
so
the
industry
can
actually
access
this
type
of
industry,
national
industry,
peak
bodies
that
pretty
much
wraps
up.
Where
we're
thinking.
G
We
would
like
to
go
over
the
next
two
years,
as
I
said,
to
really
consolidate
the
the
work
that
we've
done
with
the
music
action
plan,
and
I
guess
I
could
finish
the
presentation-
we're
just
not
quite
sure
how
this
actually
works.
But
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
the
chance
to
look
at
the
toolkit.
Yet
that's
online.
At
the
we
are
gold
coast
website,
so
it
sits.
G
This
is
the
we
are
gold
coast
website,
it
sits
under
the
business
and
invest
and
look
amanda's
managed
to
get
it,
so
it
sits
there
under
business
in
and
invest.
So
it
basically
is
a
one-stop
shop
that
goes
into
what
this
city
offers
from
a
touring
perspective.
Helen
describes
it
almost
like
a
tour
book
that
anyone
who
comes
to
the
city
would
usually
get
it
in
a
hard
copy,
but
it
sits
digitally
on
our
on
our.
We
are
gold
coast.
G
So
if
we
go
into
y2
or
the
gold
coast,
we
have
information
about
our
demographic.
We
have
information
about
our
climate,
our
our
audiences.
That
sort
of
thing
sits
within
that.
If
you
want
to
scroll
down
thanks
amanda
the
history,
our
audience
profile
the
types
of
environment,
we
are
the
fact
that
we're
close
to
two
international
air
airports,
that
sort
of
thing.
If
you
go
back
into
business
and
invest
again,
we
go
back
to
our
go
back
into
there.
G
The
venues
page
this
is
this
is
not
a
toolkit
for
gp
or
general
public.
This
is
very
specific
to
the
industry,
who
understands
the
type
of
language
that
is
being
used.
So
if
we
scroll
down
a
little
bit
amanda,
they
can
look
at.
They
can
select
venue
type
up
there
in
the
search
engine
they
can
want.
They
might
want
an
intimate
space
and
then
they
might
want
something.
G
That
is,
if
you
click
on
there,
just
trying
to
think
less
than
fifteen
hundred
capacity
and
that
we
know
that
dust
tempo
comes
up
there
and
then
they
can
and
the
idea
is
it's
not
that
we're
dealing
with
with
information
there.
The
information
goes
once
they
click
on
dust
temple.
It
goes
straight
to
their
website
and
straight
to
an
email
that
dust
temple
have
given
us
to,
so
that
they
can
have
that
communication.
With
the
with
the
interested
party.
G
G
We
asked
supplies
who've
worked
over
the
la
in
the
last
two
years,
with
major
national
and
local
festivals
or
music
events,
and
they
had
to
provide
evidence
of
that
and
then
they
were
able
to
list
their
list
their
services
on
this
site
and
it's
divided
into
whether
they're
an
agent,
a
promoter,
logistics
or
production.
So
again,
it
just
really
opens
up
that
pathway
into
our
local
industry.
G
If
anyone's
wanting
to
understand
what
we
offer
the
same
thing
with
accommodation,
we
go
straight
to
the
destination
gold
coast
website
and
if
you
just
click
on
that
again,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
what
else
we've
got
there
and
we
list.
Obviously,
our
initiatives
and
support
that
we
offer
and
that's
where
anything
that
goes
up
there.
That
might
exist,
for
example,
with
the
structure
and
governance
review.
If
there's
any
initiatives
or
packages
that
might
exist
to
attract
these
types
of
events
to
our
city,
that's
where
that
would
live.
G
There's
information
for
residents
site
there
as
well,
which
once
we
understand
what
our
our
outdoor
sites
are
going
to
look
like.
We
are
able
then,
to
have
direct
communication
with
our
residents.
We
might
be
able
to
put
a
link
directly
to
here,
so
if
you've
got
someone
who
lives
next
door
to
boardwater
park,
lands
and
helen
always
uses
the
example
of
they're
having
their
dad's
80th
birthday
party
on
the
10th
of
may.
G
This
is
the
website
where
they
could
look
in
know
that
they're
affected
resident
when
when
it
goes
into
event
mode
and
be
able
to
understand
whether
or
not
there's
going
to
be
something
on
in
that
space,
so
it's
it's
very
specific
to
do
with
those
particular
sites
that
are
really
earmarked
for
live
music
as
such,
it
gives
us
that
opportunity.
So
it's
an
ongoing
thing,
that's
why
we
made
it
digital.
It
will
continue
to
change,
as
the
city
really
starts
to
really
formalize
and
finalize
our
approach
to
live
music
and
the
industry.
G
G
F
So
first
thing
I
want
to
say,
is
just
to
give
a
bit
of
feedback
about
a
couple
of
the
programs.
We've
run
that
councillors
may
not
be
across.
I
had
a
call
just
the
other
day
from
an
accountant
in
my
area
who
had
been
given
a
big,
sound
bursary
because
they
work
almost
exclusively
with
the
music
industry,
and
you
know
my
not
front
of
mind.
I
think
we
see
things
something
like
big
sound
bursaries.
We
think.
Well,
it's
a
young
emerging
musician,
but
in
this
case
it
was
actually
a
music.
F
It
was
actually
a
an
accountant,
a
qualified
accountant
cpa
who
has
been
working
almost
exclusively
with
the
music
industry
and
had
been
given
a
bursary
to
help
build
her
clientele
and
her
exposure
to
industry
practice
in
the
area
of
accountancy,
and
I
think
that's
something.
That's
understated
in
the
music
industry.
The
fact
that
those
bursaries
to
big
sound
and
a
big
music
conference
like
that
which
is
effectively
a
business
conference
relating
to
the
music
industry,
is
not
just
helping
young
musicians,
it's
actually
helping
people
who
serve
service
providers
of
the
music
industry.
F
So
I
suppose
I
wanted
a
positive
feedback.
You
did
really
good
there
well
done.
Thank
you
for
making
sure
that
those
bursaries
went
not
just
to
musicians
but
to
people
who
are
serving
the
industry.
The
other
thing
is:
I've
got
a
bunch
of
great
feedback
about
the
program
that
you
didn't
mention
today,
but
there's
a
program
where
you
partnered
local
musicians
with
fashion
and
designers,
where
it
was
a
merch
project.
F
So
when
covert
hit
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
a
lot
of
musicians
had,
is
they
couldn't
sell
tickets
to
gigs,
and
so
they
had
to
find
different
ways
to
generate
revenue
and
merchandise.
Hats,
shirts
merchandise
was
one
of
the
things
and
that
program,
I
think
you
know
there
was
definitely
a
lot
of
high
fives
around
the
place
saying.
F
You
know
a
young
young
musician
trying
to
write
a
song
and
be
famous,
but
actually
built
industries
that
serve
the
museum.
They've
been
really
positive,
so
two
big
positive
feedbacks
there.
The
other
thing
I
think
I
think
we
can
do
better
when
it
comes
to
that
licensing
space.
I'm
really
encouraged
that
you're
bringing
music
licensing
and
ensuring
that
our
production,
our
city's
production
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
live
music,
is
actually
engaging,
experienced
and
credible
practitioners.
F
Without
wanting
to
be
negative,
the
video
we
showed
before
a
little
bit
of
a
powerpoint
presentation.
There
are
much
better
there's
much
better
music
video
producers,
yeah
and
also
using
royalty-free
stock
like
royalty-free
music.
I
appreciate
this
budget
constraints
on
your
department,
but
the
fact
that
we
used
effectively
a
royalty-free
stock
instead
of
a
gold
coast
musician.
F
F
The
person
and
to
me,
maybe
that's
a
product
of
maybe
that's
a
product
of
the
production
process
for
the
video
that
we
made.
We
should
credit
the
people
that
we
include
in
there
and
they
should
be.
If,
particularly
if
they
haven't
been
paid
yeah,
we
should
credit
them
throughout
the
whole
thing
in
the
bottom
right
hand,
corner
or
somewhere
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
You
know
appropriately
acknowledging
the
body
of
work,
that's
gone
into,
creating
new
music.
G
F
G
F
F
I
noticed
that
the
venue
capacities
are
kind
of
mutually
exclusive,
so
under
1500
only
included
the
dust
temple
only
just
for
my
birthday
glitch
council
of
paterson's
division
and
frequented
the
vinnie's
dive
bar
and
it
was
very
exciting.
But
clearly
that
is
a
venue
that
is
under
1500,
and
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
one
or
two
things
need
to
happen.
We
either
need
to
not
be
mutually
exclusive
about
the
capacities
or
we
need
to
include
a
lower
end
to
each
category,
so
it
would
be
500
to
1500.
G
F
Thing
you
either
include
all
of
them
that
are
in
the
smaller
category
or
you
put
a
lower
end
capacity
in
the
metric
or
whatever.
The
database
field
is
that
that
shows
the
venues
did
want
to
say
that
I
think,
once
we
as
council
start
broadcasting
that
it
probably
is
incumbent
on
us
to
engage
with
alicia's
team
to
ensure
that
they're
appropriately
permitted
to
so
that
there
is
a
land
use
approval
for
that
capacity
in
that
venue.
F
Now
I
love
the
dust
temple
all
right
and
I
have
been
there
with
a
lot
of
people
before,
but
I
would
be
really
interested
to
make
sure
that
the
information
we're
putting
out
there
is
accurate
in
accordance
with
the
land
use
approval
that
each
venue
has,
because
all
that
will
do
is
they'll
create
dramas
for
councillors
who
get
complaints
and
they
deal
with
development
compliance
complaints.
It's
probably
good
for
us
to
reconcile
that
across.
F
I
don't
want
to
over
regulate,
but
also
it's
important
because
we're
providing
that
information,
let's
make
it
be
aligned
with
our
own
permissions.
Thank
you.
The
last
one
I
had
is
ken
in
the
in
the
event
list
that
you
showed
us.
It
was
chronologically
ordered
by
oldest
to
youngest
or
oldest
to
most
recent
or
older,
like
the
oldest
event,
was
at
the
top,
if
we
could
just
reverse
that
order,
so
that
the
old
events
appear
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
instead
of
the
top
of
the
page.
Oh.
F
Yeah
so
yeah,
just
even
if
you
just
go
to
the
screen
behind
the
thing
there
there
it
is
so
good
luck,
festival's
in
may
and
then
you've
got
may
and
then
you've
got
june
and
then
you've
got.
May
I
mean
there's
there's
some.
There
must
be
some
way
to
order
that
so
that
the
most
recent
event
or
the
the
most
you
know
I
don't
know
like
2023-
should
come
before.
2021
yeah.
F
This
this
toolkit
is
very
new.
It's
fresh,
it's
only
just
kind
of
not
that
long
been
out,
but
these
are
very
proud
that
we
need
to
be
right
on
the
ball
with,
because
the
one
thing
about
the
music
industry
and
particularly
patrons,
is
that
they're
ruthless,
and
if
they
don't
get
the
information
that
they
need
when
they
need
it
or
the
information
is
irrelevant.
They
will
stop
using
it
immediately
because
there
are
better
sources
of
that
information.
F
H
H
When
you're
talking
about
your
citywide
arts
and
culture
survey,
I'm
just
wondering
how
much
of
that
I
know
hoda's
just
gone
through
a
re,
a
similar
process.
I
assume
place
makers,
have
done
a
similar
process.
How
much
engagement
is
there
between
our
entities
so
that
we're
not
doubling
up
and
doing
the
same
work.
G
G
There
is
a
question
at
the
moment
with
all
the
changes
as
to
whether
that
survey
is
going
to
go
ahead
from
a
resident.
It
goes
through
have
your
say,
and
it
was
expected
to
go
through
in
september,
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
whether
it
will
proceed
as
an
individual
thing.
But
I
take
your
point
and,
as
you
say,
we
might
be
able
to
if
it
doesn't
piggyback
onto
something
that
either
hodder
or
mgc
does,
through
their
culture
accounts
and
their
different
surveys,
that
they
do
as
well.
To
really
get
that
understanding.
G
I
think
the
2019
one
gave
us
this
really
encouraging
figure
that
81
of
residents
attended
a
live
music
concert
in
the
previous
year,
which
was
in
a
really
high
percentage,
so
that
kind
of
information.
I
guess,
really
helps
understand
what
our
audiences,
what
our
public
and
residents
are
doing,
and
what
they're
interested
in
so.
H
I
would
say
on
that,
though,
through
the
chair
again,
and
I've
raised
this
numerous
times.
Gc
have
your
say
has
a
place,
but
in
terms
of
rigorous
methodology
and
knowing
whether
that's
accurate
information
about
our
residents,
it
does
not
provide
that.
So
I
think
I
think
this
does
need
to
be.
I
mean
just
from
the
conversation
with
hudder.
I
do
get
a
sense
that
this
is
all
being
siloed
at
the
moment.
It's
great
timing
with
the
entity
view,
and
I
think
it's
just
one
of
the
things
to
take
on
my
second
question.
H
H
A
A
Us,
where
we're
going
and
saying
we're
going
to
keep
moving
forward
with
it
and
blah
blah
blah,
but
but
if
you're
sure
that
it
fits
in
with
this,
we
can
go
into
clothes,
but
I'm
I'm
not
convinced
till.
I
hear
it.
So
if
it's
for
a
commercial
in
confidence
reasons,
we
can
do
that,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
it
tightly
relates.
Okay,
you're
sure
it
does.
Okay,
hang
on.
B
A
H
A
G
Through
you,
mr
chair,
that
is
in
partnership
with
apra
amkos,
who
are
basically
the
licensing
body
that
deals
with
all
the
publishers
and
sort
of
is
the
peak
body
for
that
in
australia.
So
they
work
with
they
work
with
all
the
publishers
and
licensing
bodies
across
australia
and
they're
the
peak
body
that
coordinates
all
of
that.
A
F
You
know
the
the
success
of
this
action
plan
and
and
the
the
program
of
work
that
we've
undertaken
is
evidence
not
just
in
how
the
local
community
see
the
council's
support
for
their
industry,
but
the
fact
that
increasingly
we're
seeing
larger
acts
decide
to
you
know,
base
a
base,
a
tool
here
and
it's
it's
finding
a
balance
between
those
two
things
that
is
critically
important
with
the
plan.
It
is
not
just
about
attracting
big
name
acts
into
our
city
for
the
economic
impact.
F
It's
actually
about
a
thriving
creative
industry
that
partners
with
other
sister
and
brother
industries
to
grow
a
bunch
of
creative,
effectively
creative
design,
skills
and
talent
in
our
city,
that
creative
design,
skills
and
talent
isn't
just
about
musicians.
It's
actually
about
graphic
designers.
It's
about
architects!
It's
about!
F
You
know
fashion.
It's
it's
about
all
these
industries
that
I
think
the
gold
coast
has
already
been
always
been
really
good
at,
but
we've
never
really
kind
of
cohesively
coherently
kind
of
championed
those
causes,
as
collectively
as
we
are
doing
now.
The
music
action
plan
is
super.
It's
super
exciting
to
see
it
grow
in
the
way
that
it
has.
F
The
only
thing,
I'd
probably
just
say,
is
that
you
know
it
is
important
that
we
remember
that
that
the
big
music
industry
companies
are
very
commercial
in
nature
and
it's
wonderful
that
they
employ
lots
of
people,
but
they
are
also
relatively
ruthless.
The
music
industry
has
a
reputation
of
being
ruthless,
and
it's
important
that
we
know
when
we're
engaging
with
those
big
entities.
They
don't
always
look
after
our
emerging
musicians
in
the
way
that
perhaps
they
could-
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
stewardship
role
as
a
as
a
city
council.
F
But
we
can
play
that
role
filling
the
gap
as
those
musicians
build
up
and
the
best
example
I
can
give
you
is
that
you
know
amy
sharks
now
touring
the
world
she's
done
65
dates
through
australia
and
she's
toured
the
us,
and
you
know
one
of
her
first,
you
know.
First
prominent
activities
was
a
music
video
funded
by
the
city
council
that
ultimately
won
her
queensland
music
award
before
she
was
super
famous
and
signed
by
sony.
F
She
parted
with
her
local
government
to
deliver
a
piece
of
media
that
ultimately
started
a
platform
or
started
a
journey
for
her,
and
we
that's
the
place
that
we
should
be.
We
should
be
helping
those
emerging
musicians
find
a
little
bit
of
find
a
good
platform
to
build
themselves
up
so
so
that
we
can
grow
the
industry,
and
then
you
know
right
now:
we
couldn't
buy
the
marketing
of
amy
shark
across
australia
and
the
us
telling
every
single
person
that
she
comes
from
the
gold
coast
and
she's
proud
of
it.
F
F
A
Yeah,
I
mean
obviously
it
could
have
been
closing
as
well.
It's
not
just
about
musicians.
It's
about.
You
know
it's
about
venues,
it's
making
it
easier
for
those
venues
to
perform
it's
engaging
with
the
community.
I
mean
it
was
a
very
interesting
statistic.
Looking
at
that
with
saying
that
something
like
81
of
gold
coasters
had
attended
a
live
music
event
in
in
2019.
Obviously
you
know
covered
hit
after
that,
but
but
again
it
just
means
that
it's
not
just
those
big
events.
It's
not
just
you
know
blues
on
broad
beach,
it's
not
groundwater.
A
It's
I
mean.
We've
now
got
springfest
coming
up
as
well,
but
it's
just
having
those
venues
for
locals
to
go
out
and
go
great
work
and
I
go
and
see
some
some
great
live
music
and,
and
obviously
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
big
thing
for
bringing
tourists
in
to
have
great
light.
Live
music
people
want
to
go
out;
they
they
want
to
do
that.
They
can
do
that
in
other
cities.
Up
until
now,
they
there
weren't
many
venues
where
they
could
do
that.
A
It's
the
networking,
it's
the
development,
you
just
say
the
musicians,
it
just
works
on
every
level
and
it's
considering
we've
been
through
such
a
difficult
time
to
have
delivered
23
of
those
25
key.
Well,
I
suppose
we
can
call
them
kpis.
Really
I
mean
this
is,
is
quite
exceptional,
so
and
again,
a
lot
of
thanks,
as
we've
said
here
in
this
recommendation,
too
needs
to
go
back
to
the
music
advisory
group,
to
you
know
to
dean,
gordon
his
team
and
and
for
everything
they
did.
A
B
F
Normally,
these
sort
of
this
sort
of
genre
festival
is
is
funded
by
other
commercial
entities,
but
but
on
the
bill
this
weekend
are
a
bunch
of
gold
coast,
artists,
partnered
with
a
bunch
of
other
amazing
artists
that
get
regular
plant
triple
j
and
we're
hoping
that
there'll
be
a
bit
of
a
young
crowd
out
about,
but
I
know
there's
a
bit
of
music
for
everyone:
the
gold
coast
music
awards
on
saturday
afternoon.
It's
on
about.
I
think
the
awards
ceremony
is
about
1
30..
F
Throughout
that
event,
there
will
be,
I
think,
there's
six
different
genres
of
music
in
performances
during
that
event,
like
it's,
it's
really
a
diverse
genre
piece
and
then,
if,
if
you
know
the
music
of
triple
j-
or
you
know
an
award
ceremony
using
your
cup
of
tea,
I
think
lily
grace
is
playing
a
country
set
for
a
council
owen
jones
down
at
the
burleigh
bazaar.
So
if
country
music
is
your
cup
of
tea,
there's
plenty
of
places
to
see
that
as
well
yeah
this
weekend?
C
C
C
But
there
has
to
be
other
opportunities
in
terms
of
super
yachts
in
in
terms
of
the
international
market
and
in
the
last
20
years,
the
numbers
have
increased
from
2163
vessels
to
just
under
6
000
vessels
internationally,
and
I
think
that
our
city
needs
to
be
as
as
close
to
the
front
as
possible
at
snaring
as
many
of
these
vessels
visiting
our
coast
and
they
estimate
in
2032
for
the
olympics.
They
are
expecting
to
have
at
least
200
off
them
in
south
east
queensland.
B
Just
a
question
through
you
to
alicia:
should
it
say
that
the
manager
edmp
or
whatever
the
title
is
prepare
a
report
rather
than
just
a
report
be
prepared?
Should
we
identify
where
this
should
go
through
you,
mr
council
gates?
We
can
do
that
if
it's
the
way.
It
is
that's
self-explanatory,
too,
but
we
could
always
say
that
the
director
economy,
planning
environment,
prepare
a
report
in
consultation
with
okay
yeah,
but
either
way
it's
it's.
C
But
an
example
was
provided
yesterday
in
regards
to
the
state
government's
plans
for
the
spit
and
one
of
the
property
developments
went
there
where
the
developer
was
seeking
to
do
something
other
than
a
a
birth
on
the
spit,
and
that's
the
single
most
logical
place
to
actually
make
sure
that
we
actually
don't
lose
available
birthing
opportunities
for
the,
because
it's
not
about
necessarily
the
tourism
industry.
It's
actually
about
the
five
or
six
thousand
people
at
the
camera.
C
A
In
which
case
yeah
there's
no
only
for
any
further
discussion,
I
think
council
iron
jones
has
spoken
to
it,
explained
it
all
and
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
supported
all
those
in
favor
that
is
carried
and
counselor
patterson,
no,
okay,
okay,
all
right!
What
I
did
want
to
say
was:
this
is
actually
the
last
meeting
that
alicia
will
be
sitting
in.
I
mean
it's
terribly
terribly
sad,
she's
well,
she's,
not
exactly
leaving
us
and
going
very
far,
but
she
is
leaving
us
for
bigger
and
better
things.