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00:00 Meeting commences. All starred items moved 3, 5.1, 6.2, 6.7,6.7, 6.8
01:00 Item 6.1
27:00 Closed session item 7.3
1:00:06 Open session item 7.3
1:02:00 Item6.3
1:03:00 Item 6.4
1:04:00 Item 6.5
1:05:40 Item 6.6
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1:43:00 Open session item 7.2
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1:54:23 Open session items 7.1, 7.2, 6.8
1:57:00 General business item 8.1
2:17:00 General business item 8.2
2:20:00 Closed session
2:36:00 Open session item 8.2
A
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
Chad
and
thank
you
councilors,
to
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
and
provide
a
summary
of
the
ordin
risk
committee
chairs
report
to
council
for
the
21-22
year.
A
comprehensive
report
has
been
provided
that
has
been
included
in
the
papers
and
I
will
take
it
as
being
read
the
so.
B
So,
firstly,
in
relation
to
the
financial
statements
and
and
the
external
audit,
the
council
and
the
control
duties
have
all
been
issued
with
unmodified
opinions
by
qao.
An
unmodified
opinion
is
in
fact,
the
best
outcome
achievable
for
an
audit
of
financial
statements,
as
it
signifies
that
the
contents
of
the
financial
statements
represented
are
true
and
Fair
View
of
the
entities
financial
position
as
at
the
30th
of
June,
that
it
was
particularly
pleasing
to
see
how
to
complete
their
financial
statements
in
a
timely
manner.
Previous
years,
they
had
significant
delays
in
completing
their
financial
reporting
obligations.
B
Pleasingly
qia
have
reported
no
new
significant
control
deficiencies
during
their
audit.
However,
there
were
three
matters
relating
to
Prior
years,
where
management
actions
were
still
ongoing.
These
matters
were
in
relation
to
I.T
General
controls
and
they
were
initially
identified
by
internal
audit
infrastructure
charges
and
some
timely
recognition
of
DTR
contributed
assets.
Those
last
two
matters
are
actually
considered
to
be
resolved
by
management
and
I'll.
Talk
further
to
those
later
have
a
look
before
I
continue,
I,
I
guess.
B
As
a
result
of
that,
you
know,
the
committee
expects
that
a
cancer
at
an
organization
of
that
size
would
have
robust
systems
and
mature
governance
processes
that
any
large
company
would
would
have,
especially
over
the
way
it
manages
its
assets.
So
that
a
bit
of
context,
why?
The
the
committee
focuses
on
some
of
these
matters
so
so
now
going
back
to
those
significant
deficiencies
in
relation
to
infrastructure
charges.
B
That
was
an
issue
that
was
raised
back
in
2018
and,
and
it
really
was
around
processes
for
timely
monitoring
and
invoice
invoicing
of
active
infrastructure
charges
now,
curio.
Have
it
in
fact
confirmed
you
in
the
year
that
that
has
now
been
resolved,
but
it
took
a
long
time
to
get
there
in
relation
to
contributed
assets
again
in
2019,
the
QA
raised
a
significant
deficiency
about
timely
recognition
of
those
contributive
contributive
assets
for
Works
done
by
dtmr.
B
Again,
that's
it's
now
considered
to
be
resolved,
but
it's
still
awaiting
final
resolution
by
or
verification
by
qao
regarding
General
I.T
controls.
That
is
a
long-standing
issue.
It's
first
raised
back
in
2019
by
the
internal
audit
team
as
part
of
a
planned
audit
of
the
I.T
or
general
iot
controls
and
the
pathway
system.
B
Now
Kyrie
has
subsequently
relied
upon
that
report,
and
and
and
we
all
agreed,
it
was
a
significant
deficiency
and
whilst
management
have
addressed
some
of
those
deficiencies,
there
is
still
ongoing
work
with
the
vendor
to
address
those
deficiencies
in
the
pathway
system.
Therefore,
qio
is
still
rated
this
as
a
matter
of
significant
deficiency,
like
management
initially
committed
to
resolve
all
the
issues
in
that
report
back
by
June
2020.
B
However,
here
we
are
today
where
the
the
new
date
is
actually
31,
December
2022,
likewise
in
September,
2021
internality
gained
it
another
sap,
security,
Erp
security
and
compliance
would
have
found
various
controlled
controlled
gaps
in
deficiencies
again
as
a
result
of
those
audits,
you
know
the
QA
actually
placed
no
Reliance
on
it.
General
controls,
as
stated
in
their
closing,
reported
management
letter.
Therefore,
further
substand
substantive
testing
was
performed
by
the
external
orders.
B
Fortunately,
no
additional
cost
was
imposed
on
Council,
so
I
think
there's
an
error
that
the
game
will
be
an
area
of
focus
going
forward
in
realizing
the
other
financial
matters
in
the
charter.
The
committee
monitored
to
the
revaluation
plans
and
processes,
as
well
as
the
governance
Arrangements
over
the
controlled
entities
Management
in
the
committee
and
internal
audit
agenda,
work
closely
with
kerryoda
with
strongly
strong,
effective
relationship.
B
Regarding
internal
audit,
the
committee
Works
closely
with
internal
audit
function,
who
also
provide
valuable
support
to
the
committee.
The
committee
models,
the
delivery
of
the
annual
audit
plan
and
also
reviews
all
the
audit
reports
and
monitors
the
implementation
of
agreed
management
actions
pleasingly.
There
have
been
further
Improvement
in
the
overall
timeliness
of
implementation
of
outstanding
recommendations.
However,
whilst
not
in
the
improvements,
the
committee
has
concerns
regarding
some
specific
areas
in
delays
where
the
grid
action
dates
seem
to
be
shifted
year
by
year
and
I
guess.
One
of
those
was
what
I
previously
mentioned.
B
A
summary
of
the
completed
orders
for
last
year
provide
an
attachment
too
to
the
report.
The
planned
audit
internal
program
was
largely
completed,
given
the
demands
of
internal
audit
unit
for
insisters,
with
several
Hawk
matters
during
the
years,
such
as
answer
comments,
for
example,
financial
assistance.
At
hotter,
the
committee
can
says
the
unit
has
performed
exceptionally
well
during
the
year.
Also,
an
external
quality
assessment
of
the
internal
function
was
performed
now.
B
They
also
identify
a
key
person
risk
in
the
fact
that
the
the
manager
risk
Integrity
Insurance
and
the
executive
coordinator
executive
coordinator
internal
audit.
There
was
a
need
for
a
robust
succession
planning,
ironically
subsequent
to
that
review.
Both
those
positions
were
vacated
and
we
have
new
people
in
those
positions.
So
and
there's
been
some
structural
changes
in
the
organizations
which
have
occurred.
B
They
also
identified
broader
up
capabilities
in
data
technology
and
continuous,
controlled
monitoring
that
the
the
internal
function
should
be
able
to
do
regretting
fraud,
corruption,
control.
The
committee
continued
to
take
a
keen
interest
in
fraud
and
Corruption
control
and
support
Management's
ongoing
attention
to
that
matter.
B
The
continue
the
committee
continues
to
play.
An
active
role
in
showing
appropriate
focus
is
placed
on
identifying,
assessing
prioritizing
monitoring
and
mitigating
risks.
The
committee
receives
an
annual
risk
management
business
continuity,
management,
Security,
Management
work,
health
and
safety
management
update
from
respective
managers.
B
However,
the
committee
knows
that
there's
been
minimal
reduction
in
documented
risk
levels
in
recent
years.
There
have
been
numerous
reviews
in
the
past
few
years
involving
council's
level
of
risk
maturity
from
which
the
Committees,
from
from
the
committee's
perspective,
has
generated
minimal
action
to
date
to
address
shortcomings
on
how
risks
are
identified,
managed
and
reported.
B
Just
on
that
issue,
as
I
said,
if
you
look
at
this
as
a
big
company
as
an
ASX
listed
company,
the
ASX
corporate
government
Council
actually
requires
listed
companies
to
provide
an
update
each
year
in
relation
to
their
Enterprise
risk
framework
and
to
code.
It
says
the
board
or
the
committee
should
review
the
entity's
risk
management
framework,
at
least
annually,
to
satisfied
itself
that
it
continues
to
be
a
sound
to
be
sent
and
the
entities
operating
with
gear
regard
to
risk
appetite
sit
by
the
board
and
I
guess.
B
The
risk
appetite
is
another
area
where
it's
not
clear.
What
the
risk
appetite
for
Council
currently
is,
but
I
said
I
do
acknowledge.
That's
a
lot
of
work
being
done.
We've
got
Luke
and
Zara
and
I
know
that
the
structure
and
the
recruitment
going
on
so
again
it'll
be
an
area
of
close
attention
by
the
committee,
because
it's
a
it's
a
primary
of
importance.
B
Moving
on
to
legislative
and
policy
compliance,
the
committee
continues
to
monitor
the
framework
to
identify
Regulatory,
Compliance
obligations,
assigning
responsibility
for
management
and
Reporting
on
those
obligations,
as
well
as
aligning
obligation
to
the
business
processes.
A
key
element
of
this
is
the
role
of
the
corporate
compliance
program.
B
As
chair
of
the
audit
committee,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
members
who
served
on
the
committee
during
the
year.
Both
the
councils
and
the
independent
members,
the
elected
representatives
on
the
committee,
you
know
we
really
appreciate
the
the
understanding
and
of
council's
objectives
and
perspectives
that
that
we
don't
get
as
independent
members
and
I
extend
that
open
invitation
to
all
members
on
the
committee
to
to
sit
in
on
the
order
on
the
audit
and
risk
committee
meetings
as
Observers.
B
And
finally,
this
will
be
my
last
report,
as
my
tenure
of
the
committee
concludes
in
December,
I
would
like
to
thank
Council
and
management
for
the
opportunity
to
be
a
member
of
the
audit
and
risk
committee
for
the
past
six
and
a
half
years
and
two
and
a
half
years
as
chair.
It
has
been
an
absolute
privilege
and
an
honor
to
be
a
member
of
the
committee
and
I've
enjoyed
enormously
and
my
involvement
with
the
City
of
Gold
Coast.
It
is
an
impressive
organization.
B
C
B
I
think
we're
going
to
look
at
when
it
comes
to
risk
appetite.
You
say:
well
what
investment
will
I
say?
Are
you
prepared
to
lose
in
some
cases
because
there's
opportunities
out
there,
that's
an
example
around.
What's
your
risk,
tolerance
when
it
comes
to
safety
is
probably
a
good
example.
You
know
like
what
is
your
tolerances?
B
Every
element
of
of
of
the
operation
of
looking
at
all
your
objectives,
you
know
yeah,
so
really.
What
is
your
risk
appetite
as
to
your
degree
of
acceptance
of
risk
like
Risk?
No
risk
equals
no
return
at
the
end
of
the
day.
If
you
look
at
an
economic
model,
so
you've
got
to
take
risk,
that's
what
we
do
all
the
time,
but
how
much
risk
are
you
prepared
to
take
yep
either
in
investing
or
in
managing
your
safety
or
in
environmental
issues
or
those
sort
of
things?
B
C
B
It's
one
of
those
risk
elements.
There
will
be
an
appetite
statement
that
says
this
is
what
we're
prepared
to
accept
on
a
listed
company
they're,
probably
a
bit
more
risk
Risk
Takers,
as
opposed
to
a
council,
so
to
speak.
Well,
no
doubt
about
that,
because
they're
the
baker
profit
by
the
end
of
the
day.
You
know
what
degree
will
they
put
at
risk
to
to
achieve
an
outcome?
If
you
know
what
I
mean
so
it's
understanding
and
it's
got
to
be
tuned
to
the
council.
B
If
you're
not
I
mean
what-
and
this
can
be
done
through
a
workshop
often
is
done
sometimes
I've
seen
you'll
get
asked
a
whole
series
of
questions,
we'll
we'll
eventually
it'll
it'll
give
you
an
indication
of
where
you
sit
on
those
sort
of
risk
risk
areas.
If
you
know
what
I
mean,
but
without
that
it
all
it
all
flows
through
that's
again,
but
if
you
look
at
any
public
statement
in
the
annual
report,
usually
all
those
companies
will
have
a
statement
around
their
risk
management
processes
within
their
annual
report.
So,
okay.
B
The
framework
hangs
offered
yeah
so
yeah.
So
what
really?
The
first
thing
is?
Well,
you
probably
do
have
an
appetite.
Just
it
is
not
documented.
You
know
the
managers
actually
day
to
day
out
you're
managing
risk
without
probably
knowing
it.
What
in
a
modern
organization
you
should
have
is,
is
a
framework
that
sits
around
that.
That
encapsulate.
Are
we
operating
within
that
that
that
appetite
so
to
speak
at
the
moment,
I
said
that
that's
what
needs
to
be
captured.
A
D
You
chair,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
absolutely
correct,
so
the
current
Enterprise
risk
management
framework
doesn't
have
an
articulated
risk
appetite
statement.
That's
not
to
suggest
that
we're
not
you
know
actively
trying
to
manage
those
risks,
but
I
guess
the
key
issue
that's
been
identified
and
and
Jeff
has
really
highlighted.
This
is
that
without
that
understanding,
then
it
makes
the
whole
risk
management
process
really
difficult
to
make
those
key
decisions.
D
So
we
currently
have
a
project
that
we
are
implementing,
where
we're
going
to
redevelop
that
whole
framework
and
get
a
look
at.
You
know
really
looking
at
best
practice
that
will
absolutely
have
a
risk
appetite
statement
and,
probably,
more
importantly,
across
all
of
those
categories
that
Jeff
mentioned
reputation,
environment
legislation.
All
those
aspects
will
actually
look
to
implement
thresholds
that
will
really
drive
that
decision,
making.
E
The
second
part
of
the
question
is,
but
I
think
we
might
be
reviewing
at
the
moment
is
what
type
of
report
or
policy
will
come
back
to
us
for
the
current
board
to
make
a
determination
of
those
risks,
because
my
understanding
would
be
is
once
we've
got
those
policies
in
place.
Each
board
will
determine
a
risk
factor
for
that
time
of
the
term.
So
is
that
something
we're
looking
at
creating
what
categories
are
and
what
those
levels
could
look
like
for
us
to
then.
D
So,
in
terms
of
that
particular
project,
it's
really
in
its
very
early
phases,
so
we're
really
just
sort
of
scoping
that
current
current
state
of
our
current
Enterprise
risk
management
framework
and
really
looking
for
those
Improvement
points.
But
to
directly
answer
your
question.
We
are
looking
at
doing
an
update
on
that
at
the
next
order
and
risk
committee
and
would
see
that
obviously
flowing
through
to
this
committee
and
Council
and
have
absolute
intent
to
involve
all
councilors
in
the
discussions
around
those
risks.
Appetite
thresholds.
A
D
Through
the
chair
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
anticipating
a
nine
month,
project
delivery
that
includes
implementation,
including
education
across
the
organization.
So,
whilst
that
might
sound
quite
an
extensive
period
of
time,
it's
also
about
actually
implementing
it
and
making
sure
the
business
is
actually
using
it
not
just
having
a
framework
in
isolation
and.
B
Well,
some
some
will
have
parameters
are
like
financially,
you
say
well
how
much
money
will
you
put
at
risk
sometimes
or
can
have
a
parameter
if
you're
new,
but
often
it's
more
around-
you
know
like
environment
like
safety
bill?
Will
we
will
hurt?
No
one
Zero
armor,
that's
pretty
to
say
we
mean
it
if
you
know
what
I
mean,
so
any
injury
is
is
not
good,
so,
but
really
what
you
look
at
all
different
parameters
will
have
different
aspects.
B
You
know
it's
not
it'll
be
no
hard
and
fasting
is
often
it's
their
their
statements,
of
which
you
will
it's
hard
to
explain,
but
with
with
using
environment's
exams
level,
you
want
no
environmental
incidents.
If
you
know
what
I
mean,
but
then
there'll
be
a
degree
of
Tolerance
where
they
may
happen,
you
may
get
fine.
So
to
speak
as
an
example,
you
know
wait.
B
Sometimes
things
will
happen
if
you
know
what
I
mean,
but
you've
got
to
put
that
in
in
parameterize,
but
understand
well,
what's
acceptable,
what's
not
acceptable,
you
know
the
thing
the
thing
about
is
that
all
that
stuff
should
drive
Behavior.
If
you
know
what
I
mean
it
drives,
Behavior
it
also
it
drive
decision
making
you
know
and
just
get
back
with
the
organization
does
have
a
lot
of
information
out
there
about
managing
risks
like
that
it
has
got,
there's
a
some
there's,
just
so
much
stuff
in
there.
It's
just
unbelievable.
B
B
To
be
honest,
you
know,
but
at
the
other
day
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
until
you
until
you
document
and
get
clarity
around
you
know
what
is
the
risk?
What
are
the
the
controls
that
are
in
place
to
manage
that
risk?
Are
they
the
right
controls
and
now
who's
assessing
to
make
sure
those
controls
are
in
fact
working
and
therefore
get
Comfort?
The
risk
is
being
managed.
It's
really
as
simple
as
that
at
the
moment,
there's
a
shopping
list
on
some
of
these
things
and
other
ones
have
got
hardly
anything
in
there.
B
G
Opportunity
to
add
something
to
the
recommendation
there
or
number
two,
just
thanks
for
Jeff
service
to
the
city
like
six
years
on
the
committee
and
two
and
a
half
years
as
chair
I've,
attended
just
I,
think
just
about
every
meeting
and
I
have
learned
so
much
along
the
way,
but
also
really
appreciated
the
input
Jeff's.
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know,
Jeff's
got
an
extensive
experience
with
audit
and
risk
both
in
the
private
and
public
sector,
especially
for
local
government,
so
I
think
for
us
as
an
organization.
G
We've
really
benefited
from
having
Jeff
as
chair
for
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
but
on
the
committee
prior
to
that.
So
just
a
a
vote
of
thanks
on
behalf
of
well
those
councilors
who
have
attended,
but
for
everybody
in
the
room
as
well,
because
the
city
can
only
be
in
the
place
that
it's
in
if
we've
got
good
governance
across
the
board,.
A
A
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A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
I
I
have
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
because
Council
appointed
Colliers
as
the
rental
assessor
for
the
proposed
lease
of
371
Marine
parade
I,
haven't
prepared
a
form
because
I
overlooked
doing
that
over
the
weekend.
But
I
received
a
donation
of
twelve
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
on
the
6th
of
the
9th
16.
I
A
I
G
And
it's
it's
I
guess
it's
probably
not
so
much
a
question
as
such
or
or
actually
it
is
a
question
so
identified
on
page
73
and
on
the
top
of
page
74.
We're
talking
about
water
and
sewage.
Services
is
forecasting
711
million
dollars
of
growth
related
infrastructure
over
the
next
10
years
and
then
on
page
74.
More
than
1.4
billion
is
expected
to
fund
water
and
sewage,
blah
blah
blah.
With
how
much
we've
got
my
I
guess.
My
question
is
based
on
the
conversation
we've
just
had
enclosed.
J
A
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A
I
I
G
And
and
I'd
like
to
move
the
council
against
May
participate
in
the
decision,
despite
the
councilor's
conflict
of
interest,
because
of
the
length
of
time
that
has
lapsed,
since
the
donation
was
made
and
also
the
councilor
Gates
has
not
communicated
with
Colliers
and
also
her
extensive
knowledge
of
the
the
matter.
Thank.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
M
N
A
Yeah
and
so
councilors
is
there
any
other
comments
in
regards
to
the
proposed
lease
if
we
could
just
get
the
information
requested
before
Council,
that
would
be
appreciated.
Director
twine
all
in
favor
carried
noting
that
councilor
Gates
voted
in
favor
General
business.
No,
there's
a
supplementary
agenda
item
councilor
Hamill
a
copy
of
well.
Would
we
like
to
deal
with
it
this
week
or
in
the
next
round.
O
A
O
A
A
J
Agm,
isn't
it
through
Mr,
chair,
Council
gate,
so
the
agm's
on
the
23rd
of
November?
We
are
working
with
destination,
Gold
Coast
at
the
moment,
because
obviously
our
nominee
would
be
late
to
work
out
the
process
on
that
there
is
a
few
options
available.
It's
just
whatever.
The
best
option
is
at
that
time.
J
Do
we
know
through
you
Mr
chair,
sorry,
Council
Gates
Office
of
the
CEO
are
doing
that
I
I
in
speaking
to
Nikki.
Earlier
this
week
it
was
I
think
organized
on
the
weekend,
I'm
not
sure
when
it's
been
advertised,
but
I
can
certainly
take
that
on
notice
and
get
an
email
Communications
out
to
counselors
in
Saturdays
I.
A
So
and
that
may
have
been
the
intent,
but
the
destination
Gold
Coast-
usually
report
not
to
this
committee,
but
to
cancel
the
Castro's
committee.
The
Observer,
isn't
on
this
committee
and
I
had
spoken
to
the
mayor
about
it,
going
directly
to
full
Council
and
I
think
he
spoke
to
the
CEO
who
suggested
that
it
had
to
go
to
the
committee
based
on
the
report
and
the
way
forward
would
be
to
do
a
general
business
item.
I
So
say:
you're
still
here,
no
well
look
I
do
need
to
ask
a
question:
I
had
a
a
request
from
our
Observer
on
the
board
for
me
to
attend
to
the
next
board
meeting
on
his
behalf
and
I've
never
heard
of
that
before,
where
a
an
an
appointee,
a
council
appointment
as
an
observer,
could
choose
someone
else
to
go
in
this.
Did
so
I
I
didn't
respond
as
yet,
because
I
didn't
know
what
the
correct
procedure
would
be
with
regard
to
that
and
I
think
he
may
have
been
confused.
I
I
I
went
that
the
destination
Gold
Coast
met
at
the
Gold
Coast
motor
museum
last
month
and
I
went
along
for
morning
tea,
but
it
was
after
the
the
meeting,
but
I
do
think
that
the
next
meeting
of
destination,
Gold
Coast,
is
an
AGM
and
I.
Think
I
know
I've
been
invited
to
that
by
destination.
Gold
Coast,
but
again,
I,
don't
know
what
the
procedure
is.
I've
not
ever
had
an
invitation
like
that
before
so
I
need
Clarity
around
that.
A
J
Through
you,
Mr
chair,
Council,
Gates
I,
couldn't
take
that
a
notice
and
get
confirmation
when
we
do
nominate
the
servers
on
the
boards.
We
nominate
a
specific
it's
a
council
decision
so
and
then
it's
a
council
decision,
I'm,
not
I,
can't
recall
any
proxies
being
nominated
at
that
time.
However,
we
will
have
a
look
we'll
look
through
the
constitution
of
destination,
Gold
Coast
and
get
get
some
advice
back.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
A
M
My
question
is
twofold:
firstly,
is
it
a
matter
of
process,
the
divisional
counselor
has
consulted
about
a
billboard
of
a
certain
size
or
would
would
there
be
a
requirement
to
change
the
local
law
in
order
for
the
divisional
Council
to
be
consulted
when
a
billboard
of
a
certain
size?
So
that's
kind
of
you
can
take
it
on
notice.
If
you
like
or
I
just
wouldn't
mind
sounding
out
with
my
colleagues
and
you
sorry.
P
Through
the
chair,
this
is
New
Territory
for
me,
too,
so
I'm
coming
up
to
speed
on
this
quite
rapidly
I
understand
from
discussions
as
recent
as
yesterday
that
the
current
policy
is
that
councilors
aren't
consulted
on
these
devices
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
relates
to
a
size.
So
that's
that's
something
you've
raised
today
that
I've
not
been
aware
of,
but
my
review
of
the
advice
provided
to
me
yesterday
is
that
the
current
policy
is
that
councilors
aren't
consulted
on
these.
P
There
are
over
7
000
devices
of
this
nature
across
the
city,
so
you
can
imagine
the
administrative
load
and
console
on
Consulting
on
all
of
those.
The
process
is
very
robust.
It.
It
asks
officers
through
various
Departments
of
council
things
like
transport
and
traffic
impact
on
roads.
We
ask
external
agencies
such
as
transport
and
main
roads
for
their
advice,
and
that
advice
is
collated
and
assessed
in
a
recommendation
made,
but
currently
in
the
process
Isis
there
isn't
anything
for
the
local
councilor
there.
M
That's
had
four
traffic
accidents
that
involve
police
over
the
last
24
months
and
there
is
obviously
some
Community
concern
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
something
that
ultimately
I'm
going
to
deal
with
the
complaints
about,
because
people
got
to
call
the
divisional
Council
are
thinking
that
they
are
responsible
for
the
erection
of
this
billboard.
I
appreciate
we're
not
it's
administrative
decision
but
but
I
think
it'd
be
really
good
to
have
some
clarity
around
certain
circumstances
where
new
Billboards
are
erected
as
opposed
to
the
changing
of
a
sign
for
an
existing
billboard.
M
I
The
only
comment
that
I
would
make
is
that
it
would
be
in
the
construction
of
the
policy
which
we
quite
clearly
approve
and
perhaps
we've
overlooked,
requesting
that
consultation
occur,
which
is
why
it's
not
happening,
but
I
would
imagine
that
we've
approved
the
sizes,
and
you
know
that
that
local
law
process
goes
for
years.
So
I
mean
to
affect
a
change.
It
would
have
to
be
brought
to
council
advertised
and
go
through
that
entire
process,
but
I
I
guess
where
the
Architects
to
a
degree
of
the
policy.
I
Yes
and
the
state
actually
pulled
it
down,
but
that's
the
only
time
I
can
ever
recall,
but
I
I
mean
I,
know
we're
really
interested
in
everything,
but
ultimately
I
guess
the
officers
are
there
for
a
reason
and
they
don't
want
to
bring.
Nor
do
we
want
them
to
bring
every
item
before
us,
but
I
can
understand
your
point.
If
it's
an
intersection,
you
know
well,
and
perhaps
the
officer
who
looked
at
it
didn't
know
it
as
well.
P
Through
the
chair,
the
other
thing
I
can
I
can
add
to
that
is
in
the
assessment
they
they
officers.
Obviously,
you
know,
live
in
the
city
and
understand
the
context
and
the
one
that
you've
raised.
Counselor
Autos
are
around
the
accent
rate
at
the
intersection
and
the
potential
for
visual
distraction.
P
That
is
part
of
the
assessment
process
that
transport
and
infrastructure
go
through
in
these
applications
that
come
through
for
Billboards
and
I
understand
the
concern
that's
raised
and
why
it's
raised
the
context
is
not
dissimilar
to
Great
many
intersections
across
the
city
that
have
signage
applied
to
them.
In
fact,
even
the
M1
in
the
south
of
the
city
is
Council.
Mcdonald's
knows
in
her
area,
there's
a
great
big
electronic
billboard
over
the
M1,
so
that
that
concept
of
visual
distraction
is
subjective.
P
F
F
So
my
point
is
that
there
is
an
entirely
different
proposition
between
a
self-assessable
advertising
device.
That's
you
know
yeah
yeah,
compared
to
a
new
application
for
a
standalone
six
by
three
meter,
billboard,
that's
on
a
pylon
at
an
intersection,
so
I
just
want
to
I
think
it
would
be
more
helpful
if
the
officers
that
were
giving
you
the
advice,
could
flesh
out
the
data
that
related
to
the
actual
point
of
concern,
because
this
is
not
about
jobblogs
accounting
services
having
a
little
sign.
F
F
We
had
a
couple
of
appeals
in
relation
to
them,
one
of
which
was
the
melchada
proprietary
limited
matter,
which
was
the
advertising
device
down
at
near
back
in
motion
on
the
corner
of
Ashmore
Road
and
bundle
right
at
that
point
of
which
councilor
Taylor,
Senior
and
myself
didn't
particularly
have
a
problem
with
the
use.
But
we
wanted
to
test
well
to
some
extent
in
court.
F
The
safety
aspects
of
the
change
rate
of
that
variable
sign
and
how
often
the
how
often
it
changes
and
how
long
the
the
picture
is
stationary
for
and
obviously
in
that
particular
case,
we
weren't
successful
in
stopping
it,
not
that
we
wanted
to
stop
it,
but
we
wanted
to
have
some
level
of
satisfaction
that
the
change
rate
was
safe
at
a
major
intersection,
given
the
distances
Etc.
So
we
have
had
some
previous
experience
about.
C
Thank
you
through
you
to
council,
taser
I,
so
for
somebody,
who's
got
a
lot
of
billboards
in
my
Division
I.
Don't
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
that
consultation
and
I
like
the
fact
that
there's
someone
who's
got
more
skills
in
safety
and
elements
of
that
than
me
doing.
That,
however,
there's
another
element
to
this,
which
is
and
I
don't
know
whether
there's
any
legal
capacity
to
this
and
I
don't
know
whether
this
is
the
concern
or
if
there
is
a
concern,
but
just
the
character
of
certain
areas.
C
So
div
six
is
a
billboard
area.
Yeah
your
area
is
not
necessarily
that
if
that
is
a
concern,
then
I
think
that's
possibly
something
that
could
be
looked
at
differently
from
Council
in
terms
of
what
do
we
want
where
in
our
city
and
I'm
open
to
that,
but
in
terms
of
Consulting
me
on
every
billboard
that
goes
up
in
div
six
I'd
say
no.
Thank
you
and.
P
E
Taylor,
thank
you
and
look
my
general
thoughts
is
this?
Isn't
a
just
a
billboard,
we're
talking
about
and
I
still
think,
particularly
if
it's
in
a
area,
that's
not
prevalent
around
the
place
that
lease
Consulting
with
a
local
councilor
is
very
important
for
them
to
at
least
be
aware
of
the
actual
application
to
can
provide
information
that
officers
may
or
may
not
have
considered.
E
And
third
point
of
that
is
even
if
you
have
a
concern
that
may
have
been
addressed
at
least
you've
got
that
to
talk
to
the
residents
about
moving
forward
so
I
appreciate.
We
don't
want
to
be
dealing
with
it
all
all
types
of
approvals
and
the
officers
there
and
doing
a
great
job,
but
it
just
helps
us
give
feedback
to
any
any
type
of
application
that
maybe
different
or
larger
than
most
other
applications
in
that
particular
area.
So,
thank
you
so.
M
So
that
was
really
the
substance
of
my
question.
I've
been
I
asked
some
questions
as
I
do,
with
managers
or
executive
coordinators
when
I
become
aware
that
the
right
person
is
the
right
person
and
they've
written
back
to
me
saying
that
effectively
officers
have
made
what
I
think
is
a
subjective
decision
about
it
being
complementary
to
the
amount
of
the
area
they've
made
some
subjective
decisions
about
the
location,
orientation
of
signage
was
considered
in
the
context
of
Road
pedestrian,
Community
safety
and
impact
of
surrounding
residences
and
I.
M
Think
they're
really
subjective
comments
that
that
officer
may
have
made
those
statements
and
may
have
made
those
assessments,
but
they're
not
going
to
get
the
complaint.
I
am
and
I
need
to
be
able
to
justify
those
elements,
and
what
has
been
provided
to
me
is
absolutely
inefficient
or
insufficient
for
me
to
be
able
to
do
that
properly.
M
Okay,
so
I
would
love
it
to
be
a
policy
decision
that
divisional
counselors
are
consulted
with
you
know:
brand
new
applications
for
Billboards
in
excess
of
five
meters
or
whatever
the
whatever
a
standard
billboard
size
is
I,
think
new.
That
would
be
a
good
policy.
Vision
I,
don't
particularly
want
to
go
through
the
process
of
changing
the
local
law,
but
at
least
I
want
to
be
informed.
So
when
the
billboard
goes
up,
I
can
actually
respond
to
my
residence
properly,
so
cancel.
A
The
toes
of
the
city
currently
has
a
program,
the
1cp
program,
where
all
policies
are
currently
on
the
table
with
the
with
the
view
of
reducing
the
volume
of
policies,
but
I
will
raise
it
with
Mr
calendar
and
see
whether
or
not
he
has
any
views
in
regards
to
policy
and
likewise
I
think
that
director
twine.
If
you
could
come
back
with
some
ideas
in
regards
to
the
number
of
billboards
of
this
size
in
the
city
and
whether
or
not
there
is
maybe
a
practical
number
where
or
practical
size
where
there
there
would.
A
That's
certainly
too,
my
personal
view
is
I
actually
I
haven't
had,
and
we
discussed
this
the
other
day,
I
haven't
had
a
sign
that
has
created
any
type
of
issue
in
that
regard,
so
the
closest
I
came
was
a
digital
sign
on
the
mouth
of
the
Discovery
Drive
adjacent
to
the
state-controlled
road,
where
they
got
State
controlled
approvals
to
illuminate
it.
So
I
just
think
that
it's
we
just
need
to
be
cautious
as
to
whether
or
not
we
want
to
create
too
many
layers,
but
still
provide
the
answers
that
you're
after
so.
A
C
The
intent
of
this
gbi
is
to
address
concerns
where
we
have
provided
money
to
groups
who
have
not
used
it
as
we
would
have
expected
for
the
results
that
we
would
expect.
Yet,
even
though
we
know
that,
and
even
though
we've
shared
that
information
with
our
committee
who
do
the
vetting,
they
deem
them
meeting
the
criteria
and
they
get
through
again
and
get
acceptance
again,
so
I
think
I
I
don't
want
to
make
it
bigger
than
Ben
Hur
thing
for
either
our
recipients
or
for
our
offices.
But
I
do
have
a
concern.
C
C
What
they
did
is
they
used
the
money
for
the
for
what
they
said
that
they
would
use
it
for,
except
for
the
fact
that
it
was
used
to
support
people
in
the
community,
but
they
had
zero
people
attend
and
they
are
applying
for
the
same
thing
again
with
quite
possibly
zero
people
to
attend
again,
but
they
receive
the
money
to
put
these
events
on.
That
is
effectively
an
event,
but
no
one
actually
goes
to.
C
Organization,
I
believe,
has
governance
issues
I've
raised
this
and
I've
been
told
that
they
fit
and
meet
our
criteria,
so
we
cannot
not
approve
them
through.
You
know
the
committee
ground
and
then,
when
it
gets
to
us,
it
gets
to
us
in
a
public
setting
and
we
can't
really
make
any
communication
on
it.
So
the
only
way
I
think
to
address
those
things
is
that
we
go
proof
in
the
pudding.
Okay,
where
did
that
money?
Go
make
proof
of
how
many
people
attended
or
whatever.