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Mario,
thank
you.
So
I've
got
the
confirmation
of
the
minutes.
Did
anybody
like
to
move
the
confirmation?
The
minutes
move,
counselor
Pauline
Young
seconded
counselor,
Donna
Gates,
all
in
favor
carried?
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6.5
6.6
will
star
6.8
and
6.9,
so
I'll
move
those
seconded
councilor
McDonald,
all
in
favor
carried
councilors.
We've
had
a
request
from
the
director
if
we
could
move
7.4
forward
on
the
agenda
predominantly
because
of
how
many
offices
are
involved
in
that
matter.
So
if
anybody
doesn't
have
any
objections,
yeah
move,
counselor,
Paul
and
Young
into
close.
Would
anybody
like
to
second
that
seconded
councilor
Darren
Tyler
all
in
favor,
and
we
moved
him
to
close
because
of
the
budgetary.
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Yep
counselor
Hamel,
all
in
favor
carried
7.3
counselor
newsletter
distribution
moved
by
councilor
Patterson
seconded
by
councilor
Pauline
Young.
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Right
councilors
6.3
is
the
audit
and
risk
committee
to
the
front
door
yeah.
Okay,
let's
do
that
as
well.
7.4
move
councilor,
Patterson.
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Okay
radiate
so
that
the
change
to
the
recommendation
to
the
change
to
the
recommendation
will
identify
in
future
reports.
The
amount
allocated
for
the
relocation
of
the
oxenford
Pony
Club
in
the
Strategic
reserve
and
it'll
also
show
an
allocation
of
funds
in
the
Strategic
Reserve
towards
Light
Rail
stage
three
and
then
the
balance
will
sit
in
the
Strategic
priority
Reserve
as
unallocated
I'm.
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Does
it
show
it
there?
Where
is
the
the
underpinning
the
16
mil.
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So
so
I
understand
this
just
to
I
wanted
to
make
the
councilors
aware
that
that
there
was
a
discussion
that
was
had
in
particular
with
the
external
members
of
the
committee,
who
were
particularly
interested
as
to
where
the
internal
audit
position
sat
on
the
Strategic
6.3
yeah,
where
so
and
I
just
wanted
everybody
to
be
aware
that
there
was
some
concern
in
regards
to
the
current
structure
and
where
the
internal
auditor
is,
and
they
had
effectively
asked
that
the
CEO
attend
the
next
meeting
to
flesh
that
out,
which
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
with
Luke
that
that
was
on
on
the
cards.
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For
our
internal
audit
function
with
some
of
these
structure
changes
and
bring
that
back
to
the
next
order
and
risk
committee,
yeah
right
yeah,
so
I'll
move
it
and
councilor
Pauline
young
can
second
it
all
in
favor
carrot.
C
I
don't
want
to
interrupt,
is
there
any?
Does
anyone
want
to
speak
to
this?
I
just
had
a
question.
What.
C
I
made
an
error
and
I
did
my
first
governance
agenda
when
it
was
distributed
for
the
meeting
that
was
canceled,
so
it
was
to
be
on
the
14th
of
September
and
because
of
the
Queen's
passing.
That
meeting
never
went
ahead
that
because
I
was
not
going
to
be
in
the
city
for
a
couple
of
days.
I
had
gone
through
that
agenda
because
the
new
agenda
had
not
been
released.
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Through
the
chair,
yes,
due
to
the
Queen's
passing
and
we
had
to
delay
bringing
this
item
to
council
or
to
committee
during
this
time,
we
are
trying
to
work
with
the
1cp
program
and
to
streamline
a
lot
of
the
processes
that
we
currently
do.
So
we
took
the
contract
manual
to
the
CEO
to
authorize
the
changes
that
were
proposed
and
he
has
been
delegated
that
authorization
from
Council,
okay,.
C
It
specifically
mentioned
the
incoming
sponsorship
policy,
the
incoming
and
outgoing
sponsorship
agreements,
and
it
suggested
that
incoming
sponsorships
were
removed
due
to
the
incoming
sponsorship
policy
being
adopted,
but
I
didn't
believe
that
it
had
been
adopted.
I
believe
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
my
thought
was
that
we
had
a
workshop
at
which
we
did
not
adopt
the
incoming
sponsorship
policy.
We
had
a
number
of
concerns
that
I'm
not
aware
of
us
having
reviewed.
D
Through
the
chair,
the
incoming
sponsorship
policy
is
listed
as
an
adopted
policy
in
Council
on
council's
records
in
our
Internet
site.
So
I
would
have
to
take
that
on
advice.
B
Through
you,
Mr
chair,
Council,
Gates
that
the
last
Workshop
that
you
did
attend
you're
correct,
so
that's
been
pause
and
we're
currently
working
through
how
we
come
back
to
counselors
and
also
consult
with
councils,
I,
think
I,
remember,
Council
corwell
had
a
lot
of
questions
that
day,
I
think
Council,
Tozer
did
and
I
remember.
You
did
as
well,
so
that
hasn't
gone
any
further
from
from
that
day.
A
few
months
ago,.
C
Well,
I
thought
we
had
concerns
with
that
as
well,
so
and
I'm
sorry
to
raise
those,
but
it
was
just
because
they
were
in
the
original
report
and
then
they
disappeared.
I
couldn't
understand
why
they
disappeared.
D
So
yeah
so
through
the
chair,
the
public
art
requirements,
the
only
changes
or
the
only
reason
that
that
it
is
listed
separately,
is
because
of
the
local
benefits
component
of
the
contract
manual.
So
with
artists,
it's
more
an
alignment
to
the
local
area
rather
than
physically
being
living
in
the
local
area.
So
there
is
a
Nuance
there.
So
that's
why
we
reference
the
public
art
separately
or
we
we
highlight
the
requirements
for
public
art,
okay,.
B
So
I'm
just
wondering
with
the
recommendation,
which
is
to
accept
the
changes
but
I
don't
know
if
I'm
not
reading
it
correctly,
but
it
effectively
reads
like
a
the
changes
are
not
highlighted.
Are
the
changes
highlighted
and
I'm
just
missing
them.
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B
B
Very
very
few
changes
and
I
just
haven't
picked
them
up
through
Mr,
chair
I
think
there
might
have
been
the
attachments
having
got
the
truck
changes,
but
we
can
take
that
on
notice,
we're
happy
to
send
out
the
Trap
change
and
the
the
current
proposed.
So
are
we
sorry?
So
are
we
ex
we're
being
asked
to
accept
changes,
but
the
attachment
doesn't
show
us
the
changes.
B
B
C
B
B
E
D
That
so,
the
key
change
is
in
the
performance
measures
in
the
current
policy.
One
of
the
performance
measures
is
procurement
savings,
given
that
the
the
volatility
of
the
market
at
the
moment
and
the
pressures
we're
receiving
it's
quite
difficult
for
estimations
of
contract
value
to
go
out
to
bring
in
a
contract
savings
measure.
So
we
are
proposing
during
this
time
that
we
remove
that
measure.
E
So
Madison
is
that
traditionally,
we've
gone
with
this
fixed
price
Contracting
kind
of
arrangement
where
correct
there
is
very
little
fluidity
for
a
contractor
to
change
or
deviate
from
the
contracted
price
as
they're
delivering
the
project
and
some
of
the
feedback
that
I've
got
from
some
contractors
is
that
in
some
of
the
marketers
that
they
are
less
willing
to
bid
for
Council
work
as
a
result
of
not
being
able
to
respond
at
in
an
agile
way
to
changing
price
and
Market
fluctuations.
E
D
The
chair,
yes,
you
are
counselor,
so
we
are
doing
more
open
book
transacting
with
our
contractors.
At
the
time
of
tender.
There
is
a
baseline
price
for
fluctuating
Commodities,
such
as
steel,
concrete
labor
through
the
term
of
the
contract.
They
will
bring
to
us
their
proposed
variation
and
it
is
an
open
book
scenario.
So.
E
Currently,
the
perception
from
some
contractors
that
I've
talked
to
is
that
they're
unwilling
to
bid
for
Council
projects,
because
there
isn't
enough
fluidity
for
them
and
they
don't
want
to
have
to
carry
the
risk
correct.
But
that
means
we
get
less
bidders
for
work.
It
does
mean
we
get
a
fixed
price,
but
it
also
means
we
get
less
people
and
sometimes
there's
less
competition.
The
risk
To
Us
by
making
this
change
is
that
you
know
we'll.
E
We
might
end
up
seeing
changes
to
the
contract
price
that
escalate,
but
we'll
also
get
more
bidders.
So,
hopefully,
we'll
start
from
a
lower.
Point
am
I.
D
Yes,
through
the
chair,
you
are
correct,
yeah,
the
other
actions
that
we
are
taking
is.
We
are
liaising
with
industry
bodies
and
taking
on
board
the
feedback
around
the
perception
of
Contracting,
with
Council
yeah.
How
owner
is
our
contract
documents
are
yes,
how
we
place
a
lot
of
special
conditions
in
our
contract
documents
which
are
not
accepted,
and
also
the
limits
of
the
liability
and
the
insurance
and
the
risk?
Okay.
So.
E
E
D
D
You
so,
if
I
may,
through
the
chair,
some
of
the
changes
to
the
contract
manual
that
were
authorized
by
the
CEO
are
also
to
enable
some
of
that
more
fluid
transacting
with
our
contractors.
Gotcha
thank.
C
Thank
you,
I
I,
appreciate
where
this
is
intended
to
go,
but
what
Springs
to
mind
is
Kira
and
the
cost
overruns
on
that
project
were
quite
very,
very
significant.
So
is
there
anything
that,
and
that
was
a
tender
process
under
the
old
rules,
but
Council
still
had
to
step
forward
and
put
in
many
many
dollars
to
complete
that
project.
D
So
through
the
chair
counselor,
my
understanding
of
Kira
was
that,
because
it
was
a
Heritage
building,
as
we
started
to
do
the
works
to
bring
that
Pavilion
up
to
the
current
state.
Some
things
were
discovered
along
the
way,
so
that's
really
a
latent
condition
on
a
Heritage
building,
which
is
quite
unusual
for
the
work
that
we
normally
do.
D
F
Going
to
those
performance
measures
there
is
that
going
to
decrease
the
necessity
to
have
a
40
40
contingency
in
some
of
these
contracts,
so
we're
going
to
be
able
to
I.
Think
realistically,
you
know
the
volatility,
the
market
they're,
going
to
lock
things
in,
but
I
think
some
of
our
past
contracts
have
been
40
40
contingency.
So
are
we
going
to
perhaps
get
a
More
Level
Playing
Field
there
if
we're
going
down
almost
like
a
Cost
Plus,
so.
D
D
D
We've
also
had
to
update
in
line
with
changes
to
directorate
names,
Branch
names,
so
they
are
minor
administrative
changes
in
the
wording
and
pretty
well,
that's
the
major
changes
in
the
policy
document
in
the
contract
manual
itself,
the
ones
that
were
authorized
by
the
CEO.
So,
yes,
we
will
review
the
public
art
policy,
sustainable
procurement,
the
mayor
in
resolution
g211202
requested
for
a
sustainable
procurement
policy
and
under
the
legislation
we
have
one
procurement
policy.
D
The
environmentally
friendly
products
as
well
financing
Arrangements
were
removed
as
not
relevant
to
the
procurement
policy.
That
fall
firmly
falls
in
the
remit
of
the
finance
area.
Under
the
Chief
Financial
Officer,
the
KP.
We
had
a
KPMG
review
of
contract
management
and
the
requirement
or
the
recommendation
was
to
stand
up
at
a
governance
Group,
which
offers
the
agated
review
so
that
is
introduced
into
the
procurement
sorry
into
the
contract
manual.
D
So
that
is
a
form
and
forward
a
forum
for
Gateway
approval
of
procurement
strategy.
Significant
Contracting
plans
prior
to
Market
release
sourcing
strategies,
negotiated
contract
variations
and
contract
management
issues.
So
that
again
is
making
sure
that
the
the
the
offers
that
we're
putting
to
Market
are
relevant
to
the
market
that
we're
approaching.
D
There
was
a
requirement
in
our
contract
manual
for
a
request
for
information
process
which
was
separate
to
an
invite.
An
expression
of
Interest
they've
now
been
combined.
There
was
no
legislative
requirement
for
us
to
separate
requests
for
information
processes,
so
this
is
also
again
making
it
easier
for
us
to
engage
with
business
and
understand
what
the
market
can
offer
us
and
from
that
we
will
form
our
requirements
and
engage
contractors
the
register
of
pre-qualified
suppliers.
D
D
D
So
we've
taken
some
of
the
requirements
for
the
onerous
approval
processes
away
if
it
is
non-discretionary,
which
means
that
it
is
only
the
superintendent
that
the
principal
has
nominated
to
manage.
The
contract
makes
a
determination
that
a
contract
should
be
varied
for
a
latent
condition
or
otherwise
that
there
isn't
absolutely
no
value
to
anybody
else.
D
The
the
procurement
area
reviews
it,
but
for
us
to
enable
the
contract
to
continue
with
the
works
and
not
hold
up,
then
we
need
that
to
be
handed
over
to
the
superintendent
to
be
able
to
enact
those
latent
condition.
Variations.
C
Sorry
one
more
question:
the
standard
expenditure
approval
limits
that
are
listed
on
page
108.
Have
they
always
been
at
those
levels
through
the
cheese
they
have
this
nature?
No
change
to
that.
So
does
that
mean
that
delegations
exist
for
each
of
those
people
to
approve
those
amounts
without
reference
to
council
through.
C
C
C
Well,
Jim
and
I
felt
that
we
have
received
a
full
explanation
and
that
it
could
be
adopted
today,
but
with
the
red-
oh,
the,
not
redacted,
but
the
changes
distributed
in
the
meantime.
And
if
there
were
any
issues
they
could
be
raised
at
full
Council.
So
I
would
foreshadow.
Since
it's
been
moved
in
second,
that
I
would
foreshadow
the.
B
A
B
A
F
B
A
A
So,
and
so
I
did
have
a
question
in
regards
to
to
the
former
CEO
left.
The
building
in
March,
21.
and
Tim
started
in
January
and
Joe
is
the
acting
CEO
for
a
period
of
time.
I
was
just
wondering
whether
or
not
we
could
give
some
consideration.
Having
some
words
to
at
least
acknowledge
Joe's
period
of
service
is
the
acting
CEO,
but
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
thoughts
on
that.
A
Is
the
one
that
features
I?
Think
that's
just
no,
no
I
don't
have
a
problem
in
the
future.
To
me,
it
was
just
so
in
in
either
of
the
common
trees
from
either
the
CEO
or
the
mayor.
I
just
thought,
passing
acknowledgment
of
Joe
having
stepped
into
the
bridge
for
the
period
of
time,
would
have
been
okay,
but
I
can't
influence
them
with
what
they
want
to
write.
A
F
A
Thank
you,
Ryan
did
you
want
to
speak
to
it?
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
it.
A
E
Taser,
my
question
is
just
on
page
4
18,
which
is
right
at
the
start
of
the
report.
It
kind
of
talks
about
the
motorbike
show
society
and
how
they
were
allocated
at
thirty
thousand
dollar,
which
was
after
about
10
years
of
being
allocated
25
000.
We
lifted
that
having
regard
for
them
being
well
managed
and
also
the
growing
costs
of
running
a
show
and
I
noticed
in
the
report
that
we've
reverted
back
to
the
25
000
allocation.
Notwithstanding
their
application
for
60..
E
My
question
is
probably
to
the
chair
or
to
the
councilors.
Is
there
a
view
that
we
can
potentially
acknowledge
that
you
know
long-term,
commit
to
the
city
and
not
go
back
to
the
the
previous
decade?
With
our
allocation
I
appreciate,
sixty
thousand
dollars
might
have
been
a
bold
and
ambitious
application,
but
I
am
quite
Keen
to
recognize
the
increasing
costs
of
running
major
events
in
the
city
and
also
acknowledge
the
much
Russia
studies,
the
feedback
from
councilors.
E
In
the
recent
confidential
conversation,
the
general
support
that
I've
had
expressed
from
councilors
for
the
motorbike
show
at
the
very
least,
it
would
be
wonderful
if
counselors
could
support
at
least
a
consistent
allocation
of
30
000,
but
I
would
clearly
like
to
see
that
in
a
multi-year
deal
subsequent
to
this
year
start
to
grow.
So
we.
G
Yes,
yes
through
the
chair,
there
is
a
small
buffer
in
the
allocation.
I
will
just
touch
on
the
reason
why
it's
at
25.
A
G
Not
at
all,
so
all
of
the
applicants
that
are
listed
here
today
are
considered
eligible
applications
and
eligible
applicants.
They
didn't
get
this
far
if
they
weren't
considered
eligible,
so
the
Quantum
of
funds
can
be
altered
today.
A
And
do
you
know
how,
so
you
can
all
explain
why
you
said
25
minute
check
yeah,
so
you
know
how
many
volunteers
are
involved
with
the
mudra
bar
show
I.
G
Do
have
that
handy
if
you'd
like
me
to
pull
it
out,
but
I'll
just
touch
on
the
Quantum
of
funds,
so
the
mudra
bar
shows
Society.
Incorporated
are
included
as
part
of
the
work
stream
program,
that's
undergoing
at
the
moment
through
the
one
city
project.
G
So
there's
a
review
strategic
governance
review,
which
includes
a
number
of
these
organizations
to
review
the
funding,
Arrangements,
particularly
larger
scale,
funding
Arrangements
on
an
ongoing
basis
with
the
view
to
enter
into
longer
term
arrangements
with
them
to
give
them
security
going
forward
similar
similar
with
the
Gold
Coast,
show
the
sporting
Hall
of
Fame
Sports
Gold
Coast
well
surf
World
down
in
currumbin,
there's
a
few
of
them
that
are
involved
in
that,
which
is
where
we've
landed
on
one-off
funding,
Arrangements
this
time
around
pending
the
outcome
of
that
strategic
review.
G
E
E
Rest,
the
product's
going
to
get
out
is
at
the
moment
there
is
a
review
of
of
these
several
organizations
and
I
think
there
might
be
a
perception
that
if
we
reduce
funding
from
30
to
25
this
year,
it
might
be
thought
that
they
are
not
being
well
managed
and
I
I.
Don't
believe
that
to
be
the
case,
I
don't
believe
that
to
be
the
perception
and
so
I'm
just
conscious
that
I
would
love
to
see
somewhere
between
30
and
40
allocated,
but
at
the
very
least
we
should
at
least
maintain
the
funding.
A
Accountants
to
the
committee
is
their
support
for
an
increase,
I'd,
say
five
thousand
dollars
to
the
mudra
bar
show.
Okay.
So
that's
great:
let's
have
that
as
a
working,
something
counselor.
F
And
thank
you
and
through
the
chair
and
and
I'd
do
this.
Every
year
the
surf
life
saving
I
think
when
they
were
on
a
funding
agreement.
It
was
like
150
160,
odd
thousand
a
year
that
went
into
the
southern
Gold
Coast
beaches
and
then
the
Northern
Gold
Coast
beaches.
G
I
threw
the
chav,
so
the
South
Coast
branch
has
10
692
members
and
I'll
just
pull
up
to
point
danger:
branch.
G
And
622
for
the
point
danger
Branch
just
adding
on
that,
though,
that
funding
level
is
consistent
with
the
one-off
funding
that
was
provided
last
year
as
a
bridging
amount
and
they
have
submitted
a
number
of
applications.
So
the
two
Regional
bodies
being
South
Coast
and.
G
F
My
comment
back
on
that
one
Matt
is
that
if
you
are
a
volunteer
standing
on
a
beach
for
six
or
seven
hours
a
day
and
then
you
have
to
come
off
the
beach
and
start
rattling,
the
tin
or
selling
chocolates
to
actually
fund
that
shortfall
that
we've
done
when
they're
in
on
agreements
funded
agreements
am
I.
Looking
at
150
160
000
a
year
and
now
we've
dropped
it
down
to
say
fifty
thousand
dollars.
F
Sixteen
thousand
volunteers
on
the
Gold
Coast
and
and
we're
not
supporting
the
fact
that,
because
I
for
one
can
tell
and
conflict
of
interest
or
whatever
I
have
stood
there
and
then
when
you've
got
to
go
out
there
and
I'm
sure
councilor
Caldwell's
the
same
and
there's
other
councilors
the
same
to
Rattle,
attend
when
you've
stood
on
the
beach
or
to
stand
at
Brisbane
airport
to
try
and
collect
funds
for
shortfalls
and
now
we're
reducing
what
used
to
be
in
the
past,
a
a
funding
agreement
down
to
a
third,
almost
a
quarter
of
what
they've
used
to
receive.
F
G
Might
just
provide
some
feedback,
if
that's
okay,
sure
sure,
so,
just
on
that
one,
we
obviously
had
a
challenging
time
coming
to
this.
This
final
outcome,
in
that
there
are
100
applications
received
and
it's
the
first
time
we've
run
the
program.
This
way
with
the
special
funding
category
string,
the
recommendation
has
been
put
before
you
today
is
essentially
allocating
a
third
of
the
whole
bucket
to
five
groups,
two
of
which
are
surf
life
saving.
G
So
a
hundred
thousand
out
of
the
three
hundred
odd
thousand
is
going
between
the
five
we
we
tried
to
come
to
sort
of
the
middle
ground
to
make
sure
that
all
applicants
received
something
I.
Think
in
total,
there's
six
applicants
eligible
applicants
that
are
receiving
no
funding
but
yeah.
It's
a
matter
of
accounts,
I'll
just
decide.
A
G
G
So
my
understanding
with
that
particular
application-
that
is
a
similar
Community
event
that
is
proposed
to
be
held
at
I,
think
metrocon
Stadium
off
the
top
of
my
head.
It's
a
disability,
inclusion
event
that
they've
proposed.
B
Well,
first
of
all,
Festival
of
fun
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money
in
comparison
to
you
know,
madruba
show
for
what
it
is
and
other
things,
but
anyway,
okay.
So
my
question
is
regarding
041
Australian
anti-ice
campaign.
What
page
429
I've
got
my
wrong
glasses
on,
so
I've
got
to
keep
taking
these
on
and
off
driving
me
nuts.
A
B
G
Through
the
chair,
so
I
believe
that
this
this
particular
group
has
received
funds
in
a
number
of
different
Community
Grant
programs
streams
in
the
last
12
months.
I
believe
that
they
did
receive
funding,
albeit
a
small
amount
through
this
program
in
January
last
year.
They
are
an
eligible
group
yeah.
B
B
Who's,
certainly
very
focused
on
supporting
people
with
drug
dependency,
has
an
issue
and
I'm
pretty
surprised
that
they
get
a
rating
of
65
percent
and
then
a
group
like
Australian
Institute
for
intergenerational
practice,
don't
so
that
was
my
other
question
why
their
rating
was
so
low,
but
I
have
I
I,
don't
I
haven't
heard
a
reason
why
you
think
it's
changed
other
than
they've
got
some
money.
G
Through
the
chest,
so
it's
part
of
this
evaluation
process
to
get
to
this
point.
There's
the
initial
really.
The
first
question
is:
are
there
an
eligible
organization
and
is
it
an
eligible
project,
that's
being
proposed?
The
answer
to
those
two
questions
was
yes.
G
It
then
goes
to
the
evaluation
panel
to
answer
a
series
of
questions
which
computes
to
a
score
at
the
end,
which
is
the
65
so
there's
five
people,
that's
on
the
panel
I'm,
not
one
of
them
I'm
just
here
today
to
deliver
the
report,
but
that
that's
essentially
how
it
gets
to
that
point.
We
certainly
want
to
make
some
progress
in
terms
of
the
policy
itself
to
provide
a
bit
more
clear
and
clearer
guidance
in
terms
of
how
we
get
to
today.
B
Okay,
and
do
you
happen
to
know
about
one
one
zero
and
why
they
were
given
a
low
scoring
application.
G
Through
the
chair,
I
am
aware
of
this
particular
application
and
I
understand
that
they
did
receive
some
whole
of
City
funds
from
the
mayor
for
a
separate
proposal.
Forum
so
I
think
it
was
really
just
a
balancing
of
the
the
competing
demand
for
the
funds
that
we
had
available.
G
So
as
I
sort
of
mentioned,
a
third
of
the
funds
went
to
the
five
at
the
top
and
because
of
their
proposal
where
it
fell
with
the
scoring,
we
were
sort
of
limited
in
the
scope,
because
the
policy
does
outline
certain
percentages
are
within
certain
limits.
B
B
G
Some
respects
it's
to
do
with
value
for
money,
so
there's
a
series
of
questions.
The
number
of
participants
that
they're
proposing
for
their
event
versus
surf
life,
saving,
for
example,
that
you
know,
has
tens
of
thousands.
So
it's
it's
just
the
competing
demands.
B
A
Okay,
so
so
Matt,
my
question
to
you
is:
do
you
know
if
the
panel
had
much
regard
to
what
might
be
divisional
allocations?
So,
for
example,
surface
Paradise,
Padre,
gar,
Society,.
G
Yes
through
the
chair,
so
in
regard
to
that
particular
application,
I
understand
that
they're
working
through
changing
their
organization
name
through
the
state
government
through
their
Incorporated
Association,
so
that
particular
group
actually
isn't
based
in
surface
Paradise.
It's
the
Gold
Coast
budriga
Society,
but
and
where
do
they
hire
the
hall
I
believe
in
madruba?
But
it's
a
well.
A
B
000
members
of
the
budget-
no
oh
yeah,
page
426,
wildcare
They,
just
won.
Obviously
they
were
one
percent
short
of
meeting
the
criteria
for
fully
funded
I
just
know
how
much
while
care
does
for
the
city
and
they're
listed
on
a
lot
of
the
city's
Communications
as
being
the
Port
of
Call.
I
was
just
surprised.
They
were
not
I,
guess
fully
funding.
What
is
ultimately
a.
B
Like
the
the
medications
and
the
materials
and
that
kind
of
thing,
whereas
this
one
is
for
the
training
up
of
more
volunteers
and
obviously
just
the
amount
of
Wildlife
strikes
and
things
we
see,
I
know
they're,
always
shorter
volunteers
and
they're
having
to
frantically
run
from
kumara
to
like
Rundle
to
mudra
bar
to
backwards
and
forwards.
So
I
just
think
having
more
Volunteers
in
Wild
care
is
only
a
good
thing,
so
I
would
have
been
Keen
to
see
it
more
funded
than
it.
A
Is
yeah
so
I'm
going
to
put
an
Asterix
on
that
the
albatross
nip
is
which
is
zero.
Six
four.
The
project
title
is
building
competition.
F
We'll
not
answer
that
just
going
back
to
divisionally
divisionally
I
funded,
not
is
this
mermaid
yeah
Albatross,
Nippers
and
I
also
funded
mermaid,
knobbies,
Miami,
board,
writers,
club
and
I
also
funded
Gold,
Coast
lapidary
Club
the
amounts
that
are
relatively
the
amounts
that
are
indicated
there
they're
all
divisional.
They
all
got
law.
A
A
A
C
G
This
through
the
chair,
so
the
discretionary
grants
program
or
the
divisional
based
grants
program,
was
run
consecutively
to
this
program.
So
through
the
initial
I
guess:
evaluation
or
eligibility
eligibility
criteria,
assessment
of
all
the
applications.
I
think
20
were
referred
to
the
discretionary
grants
program.
Some
some
are
borderline
I
suppose
it
was
just
a
judgment.
Call
that
was
made
at
that
time,
but
the
discretionary
grants
program
isn't
decided
until
after
this
is
completed.
C
So
so
I'm
I
know
that
you
ask
the
question:
councilor
Owen
Jones,
but
I
didn't
actually
hear
the
response
from
Matt.
How
do
you?
How
does
the
panel
distinguish
between
what
might
be
divisional
and
I,
hear
that
you
said
they
sent
20
across?
But
there's
some
in
here?
That
I
would
have
questioned,
because
there
are
groups
within
each
of
our
areas.
That
would
have
come
to
us
and
said
how
should
we
apply
and
if
it
was
division
or
we
would
have
said
you'll
have
to
apply
divisionally
because
you
won't
qualify
for
whole
of
city
funding.
G
So
through
the
chair,
the
policy
does
provide
some
guidance
in
regard
to
that
that
section
of
the
eligibility
criteria
in
that
a
city-wide
Grant
is
primarily
for
the
benefit
of
more
than
one
division,
where
it's
a
Surf
Club.
For
example,
that's
on
a
border
of
two
divisions.
G
It
may
service
more
than
one
division,
whereas
the
the
converse
being
the
discretionary
grants
program
is
to
service
One
Division.
Primarily,
yes,.
C
C
Well,
what
yeah
I
mean
so
so
the
way
it's
set
up
at
the
moment,
there's
a
panel
that
give
a
score
based
on
certain
criteria,
and
then
we
get.
We
get
this
review
that
we
don't
really
have
correct
sufficient
information
on
to
make
an
informed
decision.
F
You
and
through
the
chair
also
on
the
top
of
page
420
seed,
the
ground
funding,
request,
16
647,
which
that's
the
recommended
funding.
Now
that's
in
Miami
and
and
I
believe
it
was
either
last
week
or
the
week
before
that
Megan
scandin
was
down
there
having
I
think
handed
over
forty
odd
thousand
dollars
for
their
whole
process
down
there
and
I.
F
Just
you
know
for
me
to
see
and
and
I
agree
with
councilor
Gates
we're
not
getting
a
council
of
feedback
on
that,
but
for
forty
thousand
to
receive
forty
thousand
from
the
state
and
now
to
get
sixteen
thousand
from
here
and
I.
F
Think
it's
two
women
that
are
running
that
and
it's
a
in
an
area
at
the
back
of
Marketa
and
I've,
been
and
had
a
look
at
it
and
I
think
their
work
is
great
in
what
they're
doing,
but
do
I
think
it's
sixty
thousand
dollars
worth
or
forty
thousand
from
this
day
it
could
have
been
47
and
then
16
000
here
I
just
find
that
when
we've
got
the
top
of
page
426
seed,
the
ground
delivery
and
Swap
and
go
programmer
residential
food,
organic
waste
collection.
F
I
don't
know
this
is
Natalie.
Thank.
B
426,
the
RSL
Anzac
Day
Dawn
service.
B
Now
you
know
that's
a
city-wide
event
and
I
think
that
they
I
don't
know
how
the
evaluation
was
done,
but
certainly
I
felt
that
with
what
I've
seen
here,
that
they
met
all
the
criteria,
I'm
just
wondering
why
that
they
only
scored
75
when
I
think
that,
if
anyone's
been
to
that
service
down
there
they'll
know
that
not
only
is
it
a
local
but
certainly
australia-wide
and
international,
you
know
they
get
international
coverage
and
I
think
they
really
should
be
entitled
to
that
full
20
000
that
they're
asking
does.
A
C
Well,
I
I
appreciate
that
we
all
do
that
divisionally
for
our
RSL
events,
but
I
tend
to
agree
that
I
would
prefer
to
see
that
which
does
get
National
recognition.
I'd
rather
see
ten
thousand
dollars,
for
example,
taken
from
seed
the
ground
and
just
give
them
the
six
and
fully
fund
the
RSL
I
mean
and-
and
it's
a
really
awkward
conversation
to
have
now
that
we're
presented
with
this,
and
it
looks
like
we're,
picking
and
choosing
who
we
want
to
fund
and
who
we
don't.
C
But
that's
why
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
had
been
Observers
on
the
panel
so
that
we
can
provide
background
to
and
I
know
there
were
difficulties
and
I
know.
There
was
an
attempt
to
have
us
involved
as
we
used
to
be,
but
it
just
makes
it
very
awkward
now
and
so
my
view
when
I
read
this
was
for
this
year,
so
be
it
because
of
the
awkward
nature
of
saying
well,
we'd
take
this
from
there
and
that
from
somewhere
else.
C
B
I
hardly
agree
with
councilor
Gates
on
the
process,
and
it
is
unfortunate
that
we're
here
regarding
the
dawn
Services
this
this
one
is
different,
but
it's
also
different
in
that
it
already
has
significant
funding
and
that
it
is
funded
without
us.
B
The
official
Anzac
service
of
the
Gold
Coast,
where
the
mayor
attends
is
the
original
Southport
and
I
allocate
I'm
not
asking
for
funds,
but
I
allocate
thirty
thousand
dollars
out
of
law.
For
that
I.
Don't
this
one
is
funded
anyway.
I
don't
see
that
they
are.
You
know,
but
I
do
agree
with
what
councilor
Gates
is
saying.
I
would
prefer
to
see.
Actually
the
money
go
more
to
madruba
show
where
there
is.
We
know
that
they
provide
they.
B
They
do
their
job
and
they're,
not
asking
a
huge
amount
for
given
for
what
they
do
so
I,
don't
know
where
we
go.
G
Just
through
the
chair,
just
in
regards
to
the
Chrome
and
RSL
ends
at
day,
Dawn
service,
I'm,
aware
that
this
contribution
came
about
because
megc
are
no
longer
funding
their
component
as
part
of
that
transition.
So
there's
a
wider
discussion
to
be
had
particularly
about
Anzac
Day
Services
through
this
program
which
we're
hoping
to
sort
of
achieve
in
the.
A
Future
widen
that
councilors
counselor
McDonald's
talked
about
making
it
twenty
thousand.
Do
we
have
any
views
on
what
that
figure,
and
this
is
where
we're
going
to
go.
Council
Patterson
we're
going
to
get
into
a
a
haggle,
so.
A
Right,
perfect,
okay,
so
I've
heard
conversations
about
the
Surf
Club
of
her
conversations
about
the
surf
club's
conversations
about
carumben,
the
mudra
bar
show
clearly
the
wildlife
Australia
we've
got
maybe
some
editing
along
the
way.
If
we
wanted
to
be
that
way
inclined
and
do
we
want
to
look
at
the
list
to
see
whether
or
not
there
are
any
that,
may
we
maybe
should
question
whether
or
not
they
are
divisional
councils.
Do
you
want
to
look
at
the
divisional
ones?
A
A
No
we're
not
going
to
deal
with
them
at
the
moment,
we'll
we'll
gonna
run
down
the
page.
If
we
could
I
think
we
are
yeah
so
and
and
what
I'm
after
is,
is
a
bit
of
we're.
Gonna
have
to
have
a
bit
of
give
and
take
note
clearly
we're
gonna
land
in
a
position
where
nobody's
going
to
be
happy,
but
hopefully
everybody
will
be
happier
so
sorry,
Council,
Hamel.
E
G
Through
the
chest,
so
portion
of
that
is
rate
Provisions
that
would
have
went
through
today.
So
hang
on.
What
do
you
mean
by
that?
So
that's
from
last
Financial
year,
that's
carried
over
so
there's
a
portion
of
that
funding
that
is
held
aside
for
like
emergency
and
extraordinary
Grant
reasons,
but
it
does
sit
in
the
whole
bucket
of
funds,
I
suppose
not
quarantined.
For
that
purpose,
sure.
G
A
So,
in
regards
to
conversation,
we're
just
gonna
have
we'll
try
our
hardest,
not
to
allocate
140
000,
and
we
need
to
have
one
eye
on
what
future
years
might
look
like
as
well,
because
again,
when
you
say
I.
E
C
And
that
we
should
allocate
the
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
that
was.
C
A
So
I'm
going
to
pause
on
the
surf
life
saving
because
I
think
we'll
return
to
those
because
I
think
from
memory
last
year
they
ended
up
being
the
beneficiary
of
some.
What
was
left
so
we're
just
going
to
go
down
the
page
from
423
Oz,
Harvest
and
Animal
Welfare
with
zeros
a
r
h
g
Foundation.
E
G
Through
the
chest,
so
there
are
a
number
of
applications
for
events,
because
this
report
was
postponed
because
of
the
the
business
being
canceled
in
the
last
round.
There
are
a
number
of
events
that
are
annual
events
that
we've
kept
their
applications
live
for
funding
for
next
year,
rather
than
an
event.
That's
happened
in
the
past
because
we
can't
reimburse
organizations
for
projects
that
have
already
commenced.
E
G
Through
the
chair,
my
understanding
with
that
particular
application
is
that
this
is
the
first
year
that
they've
run
the
event,
and
this
is
their
first
application
to
the
city.
E
A
F
G
The
chat
we've
contacted
the
events
or
the
projects
that
had
a
notional
commencement
date
which
we
have
from
an
application
context.
E
So
they
think
my
gut
feeling
is
that
they
made
this
application
four
months
ago
and
they
have
proceeded
with
the
event
last
week,
keeping
in
mind
that
they've
been
informed,
that
ten
thousand
dollars
is
the
likely
outcome.
That's
what
I
would
suggest
if
I
was
running
a
small
community
organization
that
was
running
of
an
event
for
disability,
I,
don't
think.
C
When
we
started
going
through
regarding
this
list,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
highlighted
that
this
is
a
one-off
allocation
until
we
get
some
better
data
about
which
to
make
our
decision
next
year.
So
if
that
I
I
don't
know
when
this
is
revised,
can
the
new
document
that
is
presented
to
pull
Council
highlight
that
this
is
a
one-off
allocation?
I
mean
I
know
it
is
anyway,
but
just
so
that
they
don't
have
an
expectation
that
every
year
it
will
be
ten
thousand
dollars.
C
A
Native
plans
who
doesn't
like
native
plants,
the
Gold
Coast
little
Athletics,
youth
branch-
where
are
they
both
like
mean,
is
in?
Aren't
there
only
four
or
five
geographically
located
little
Athletics.
B
G
Through
the
chair,
I
believe
this
Regional
group
is
based
both
at
Ashmore
and
busy.
Park
I
can
just
double
check
that
managed
The.
A
C
G
Through
the
chair,
so
they're
proposal
is
to
hold
a
CPR
and
water
safety
lessons
day
for
the
community
to
attend
where.
C
A
Pool
okay,
so
we
can
sold
that
by
removing
the
1452
yeah
hope
starts
here:
salty
Souls,
the
Gold
Coast
Rose
Society
concussion,
Australia
cancer
support
sisters,
foreign
club.
We.
B
A
A
F
In
law,
okay,.
B
F
A
This
conversation
so
so
2
400
back
in
the
box
Glenn.
Do
you
want
to
talk
me
through
the
Gold
Coast
Badger
Society
Hall
higher
members.
E
E
I
I'm
not
sure
I'm,
not
a
big
bud
regard
person,
but
I
would
definitely
not
suggest
it's
divisional
in
any
way.
I
have
attended
on
one
occasion
in
the
last
10
years
and
it
was
lots
of
people
who
were
very
excited
about
their
birds.
A
From
here
and
that
that's
exciting,
but
when
I
host
the
Southport
stamp
club
who
meet
on
a
regular
basis
at
the
helensvale
community
center,
they
pay
for
their
Hall
hire,
you
know
and
they
attract
people
from
all
over
Southeast
Queensland.
So
my
view
is
1592
should
go
back
into
the
pot.
Does
anybody
disagree.
E
A
A
Okay,
two
thousand
three
hundred
and
forty
dollars
to
purchase
equipment,
zero,
seven,
seven.
A
A
Glenn
yeah,
this
committee
is
heading
towards
making
a
decision
of
reducing
the
Bell
gravia
foundation's
request
for
1452,
based
on
Matt's
advice
that
it
was
at
narang,
which
is
potentially
a
lease
facility.
Did
you
seek
any
advice
from
Hamish
or
anybody
in
that
space?
Or
did
you
want
to
make
any
comment
so
I.
E
Got
advice
which
is
going
on
the
public
record?
Yes,
so
I
got
advice
saying
that
the
Belgium
Foundation
is
a
separately
auspicious
organization,
a
separate
Incorporated
Association
from
any
entity
for
which
I've
ever
had
any
dealings
or
leased
the
facility.
So
Belgravia
Leisure
is
the
entity
from
whom
I
received
swimming
lessons.
There
was
a
there's
a
existing
declaration,
but
this
applicant
is
a
separate
organization
and
I
I
sought
advice
about
that
and
they
are
separate.
They
do
operate.
E
B
Sorry
may
I
just
ask
through
you,
so
the
people
who
are
running
this
would
not
be
the
same
people
that
you
dealt
with
that
you
that
there
was
a
conflict
consideration
for
before.
So.
E
E
This
occasion
that
Foundation
is
hosting
an
event
at
an
event
that
Belgravia
or
I
don't
know
location
that
Belgravia
Leisure
managed,
but
that
entity
is
a
separate
entity
that
are
both
the
recipient
of
the
Grant
and
the
hosting
of
the
program
and
I
I.
Don't
have
enough
knowledge
to
say
anything
else,
then
the
Declaration
about
Belgravia
Leisure
is
different
than
this
entity.
Belgravia
Foundation
different,
it's
a
different
Incorporated
Association.
E
Understanding
is
dog,
gravia
Foundation,
do
events
all
over
Australia
at
different
times,
making
applications
to
local
governments
or
other
charitable
Outlets
to
run
programs
in
places
where
there
is
community
need
and
narang
isn't
in
my
Division
I,
don't
know
about
this
program.
Okay,.
C
E
A
Ask
was
it,
you
said,
did
you
ask
our
city
solicitor?
Did
you
ask
the
foundation
no.
E
I
investigated
the
foundation
and
I
asked
Belgravia
Leisure.
If
the
foundation
was
the
same
entity
or
not
so
either,
there's
a
contact
of
Belgravia,
Leisure
and
I
asked
them.
Is
the
foundation
you
guys
or
is
it
not
I
said
no,
it's
a
separately
Incorporated
Association
that
is
managing
projects
all
over
Australia
and
on
this
occasion
I
don't
know
about
this
application,
but
that's
what
they
said
to
me
about
what
Belgravia
Foundation
was
previously
I
have
asked
the
city
solicitor
and
it
was
actually
probably
Cherie.
A
E
From
us,
so
the
a
committee
in
general
I
can't
vote
on
this
committee,
but
Committee
in
general
can
raise
a
reasonable
suspicion
and
there
is
a
pre-prepared
declaration
in
relationship
Belgrade
which,
if
you
would
like
me
to
do
I
will
but
hey
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
So
I
I
don't
need
that.
But
it's
it
is
a
separate
entity.
But
that's
okay,
I'm
happy
to
make
the
Declaration
if
or
if
councilor
Gates
would
have
greater
confidence
by
raising
that.
A
A
Okay,
page
426
seed,
the
ground
so
I
think
we
heard
from
councilor
young.
Did
you
have
a
suggestion.
F
I'm
happy
for
them
to
get
6647.
If
that's
what
they're
doing
but
but
again,
I
think
it's
a
local
thing.
Councilor
toza
you've
experienced
that
I
mean
they
do
good
work.
I.
E
Visited
this
entity
at
Burley
Anglican,
they
invited
me
to
a
thing,
and
my
observation
of
them
is
that
they
are
starting
to
expand
organic
waste
collection
and
Fogo
type
activities,
including
Community
gardening,
at
lots
of
locations
across
the
city.
It
wouldn't
surprise
me
if,
over
the
next
two
or
three
years,
we
see
a
number
of
community
locations,
engage
this
entity
to
do
this.
B
B
G
So
it
was
a
little
bit
different
with
the
other
one.
In
that
we
action
panel,
we
have
someone
from
the
office
Mayor
sitting
in
as
a
scoring
member,
and
so
there
are
a
couple
throughout
the
comments
where
we
do
talk
to
sort
of
co-funding
with
the
office
of
the
mayor,
for
particular
events,
other
funding
sources
on
a
question
or
a
scoring
mechanism,
it's
just
as
part
of
the
moderation
evaluation.
So
it's
not
part
of
the
structured
scoring.
B
D
Is
this
funding
for?
Are
they
setting
up
areas
throughout
the
Gold
Coast.
B
A
So
the
question
mark
mad
is
what's
the
funding
for
where
is
the
funding.
G
So
through
the
chat,
my
understanding
from
their
application
is
that
the
funding
is
towards
the
Swap
and
go
service.
So
anyone
in
the
community
can
access
it.
They
don't
mention
the
location,
but
I
assume
it
is
probably
the
one,
the
one
location
where
you
can
swap
and
go,
but
anyone
can
access
it
at
the
moment.
Council
Hamel.
A
Mr
chair
I'm,
aware
that
they're
starting
to
do
some
stuff
at
my
end
of
the
city.
So,
given
that
and
the
information
I've
heard,
can
we
just
wrap
them
at
5000
and
move
on
yep
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
Anybody
disagree
with
five
thousand.
A
We're
on
our
way,
Perry
cross,
Southport,
Yacht,
Club
10
cent
time.
A
A
B
B
Through
our
contractor
with
the
garbage
collection,
what
do
they
do?
You
know
old
bins?
Do
they
do
any
donations
of
Willie
bins
to
organizations.
A
A
F
A
B
A
Have
you
sponsored
him
or
have
you
sponsored
10
cent,
Tommy
Incorporated
Association
right
so
that
and
that's
the
challenge
so
two
thousand
dollars.
A
Two
thousand
dollars
and
let's
encourage
him
to
strike
a
partnership
through
Council
the
toes
office
with
the
mudra
bar
show
Society,
the
narang
mountain
bike,
club
10,
000
gone.
A
Sorry
I
was
just
trying
to
I
was
just
trying
to
get
you
back
in
the
conversation
councilatizer.
You
worked
so
hard
last
year
for
that
right,
wild
care,
Wildcat
fun
to
nine
and
a
half
thousand
dollars
Matt.
Did
you
get
that
celebrating
Gold
Coast,
diverse
seniors
with
disabilities.
A
That
accelerated
really
quickly.
Well,
we
may
as
well
do
it
we
might
as
well
do
it
at
kumara,
Mount,
tamborine.
B
A
B
The
cranber
now
is
they'll
put
a
lot
of
money
in
to
this
event.
This
is
a
city-wide
event
that
goes
worldwide
and
you
know,
we've
got
I,
don't
know
about
40
000
people
that
attend
it
costs
a
lot
to
to
run
this
event
which
the
RSL
fund
themselves.
They
don't
get
money
from.
F
B
A
A
Okay,
so
the
Indian
Diwali
Festival,
the
chair,
wasn't
didn't.
They
cancel
their
event
because
they've
just
had
it,
they
had
it
on
last
Friday.
Did
they
reschedulated
that
Council
about
lumpsen?
You
attended.
B
B
B
Good
I
do
know
it
has
caused
kerfuffle
between
the
various
Diwali
events
and
one
getting
funding
and
others
that's
right,
being
refused
funding
there's
a
few
years.
So
that's
what
it
is
gift
one
and
we
don't
give
to
another,
it's
a
bit
tricky.
So
can
we
confirm
which
one?
That
is
because
I
was
just
looking
at
the
one
that
was
going
to
be
at
Hollow,
which
they
canceled?
So
this
one
is
gopio.
The
one
at
dream
world
is
the
Indian
Community
of
Gold
Coast.
F
The
chair
they
buys
is
in
in
knobby's,
but
they
also
go
to
Palm
Beach.
They
go
to
mermaid,
they
go
to
I.
A
Is
the
is
this
some
some
Samoan
I
actually
went
to
that,
so
they
had
a
couple
of
thousand
people
there.
Destiny
family
and
Community
Services.
A
Yep
we're
almost
there
Council
guy.
It's
only
got
five
pages
to
go,
but
it's
an
efficient
system
Matt
and
we
thank
you.
A
Zero
five,
five
okay
to
the
council
that
keeps
on
saying
love
it
to
everything.
All
right:
we've
got
to
make
decisions,
we
all
love
everything,
but
every
now
and
then
we're
going
to
make
some
decisions
so
we're
at
cancer,
Council
Queensland,
Gold,
Coast
Relay
for
Life,
asking
where
it
is
because
inevitably
they
ask
for
divisional
contributions
and
they
receive
it.
A
G
Okay
through
the
chair,
yeah
Griffith
University,
so
this
will
be
for
I
believe
next
year's
event,
because
this
is
one
that
is
scheduled
for
the
15th,
which
is
prior
to
a
council
decision.
G
So
event,
stuff
so
through
through
the
chair,
it
goes
back
to
the
primary
purpose
of
the
the
program
in
that
it's
a
project
which
can
be
defined.
In
this
event,
expenditure
for
equipment
and
those
sort
of
things
that
benefits
more
than
one
division
and
so
I
guess
it's
the
nitty-gritty
of
it
all
where
we
have
to
determine
what's
in
what's
out
at
the
beginning-
and
this
was
one
that
the
panel
decided
benefited
more
than
one
division.
Oh.
A
A
lot
of
events
and
a
lot
of
cultural
events
that
it's
nearly
like,
they
need
a
separate
program
so
that
we
can
get
a
bit
of
disparity
between
what
our
events
that
become
annual
things
and
what
are
actual
one-off
purchases
to
help
groups.
Okay,
League
ability,
waitangi
day
the
Bangladesh
Association
New,
Beginnings,
Gold,
Coast,
youth,
marine
conservation
project,
the
Lions
Club
of
Robina
for
the
National
Convention.
A
He
would
ask
for
permission
to
leave
first
Life
Flight
Foundation,
New,
Life,
Community
Care.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Gold
Coast
Hinterland
Museum
anti-ice
campaign,
so
Council
Patterson
you
had
views.
What
were
your
thoughts?
I.
B
Was
I
was
just
curious
as
to
why
they
thought
I
don't
anyway,
what
is
the
community
art
therapy?
You
may
ask.
A
So
we're
going
to
come
to
a
point
shortly,
where
we're
going
to
have
a
existing
amount
in
the
bucket
and
most
likely
it's
going
to
turn
up
at
2
being
divided
equally
between
the
two
branches
of
the
surface.
Paradise,
the
surf
life
saving
right,
so
so,
I
think
the
question
here
for
the
community
art
therapy
for
the
Annie
ice
campaign
is:
are
we
in
for
a
sum
or
are
we
in
for
none
all
right
and
we've
had
to
be
tough
all
the
way
through
today
and
where
are
we
at
I've.
C
A
A
Thank
you,
bats.
A
B
F
Blython
Queensland
moving
into
the
Albert
waterways
brand
new
center,
where
they
don't
actually
have
to
do
any
of
the
maintenance
and
stuff
like
that.
F
It's
coming
back
through
the
city
and
they've
got
a
brand
new
event
and
they're
not
on
correct
me
if
I'm,
wrong
and
I've
got
it,
but
having
had
the
gentleman
in
my
office
who
then
went
off
and
did
city-wide
media
on
it
without
running
stuff
back
through
here
saying
that
life
it
was
going
into
this
new
center
and
the
story
read
like
they
were
funding
the
whole
thing
when
the
city
is
actually
doing
a
15
million
dollar
upgrade
to
that
whole
Precinct
they're,
moving
back
into
new
facilities
with
everything
I
just
think
I
don't
know,
is.
A
Do
you
agree
with
that
sold
cancer
patients
Oz?
No,
no
Lilly,
pilly
training
in
education.
A
G
Through
the
chair
so
for
the
balance
of
the
the
ones
that
we're
going
to
be
going
through
shortly
generally,
it's
to
do
with
the
reach
or
the
value
for
money
components.
So
if
they're
only
reaching
a
dozen
students
or
a
dozen
group
members,
that's
generally,
where
I
mean
60
is
still
quite
a
good
score.
It's
above
the
50
threshold
to
be
eligible,
it's
generally
to
do
with
the
rage
and
the
value
for
money
component
versus
what
they're
actually
delivering.
E
So
I'm
confused
because
the
Gold
Coast
Regional
Basketball
Association,
is
one
of
the
largest
membership
sporting
membership
organizations
in
in
the
city.
I've
met
with
them
twice
over
the
last
two
months
to
talk
about
their
come
of
their
strategic
planning
stuff
and
some
of
the
issues
with
their
displacement
at
Council
venues
and
I.
A
A
They're
all
massive
amounts
of
money
and
with
only
500
they're,
not
going
to
run
them
anywhere
like
I,
get
the
idea
of
trying
to
give
a
little
bit
to
everybody,
but
I
just
think.
That's
nearly
an
insult
to
even
do
500.
Thank
you!
So
we're
not
doing
anything
more.
Do
we
agree
that
we've
reached
the
bottom?
No,
so
roughly,
how
much
do
we
have
left
in
the
the
tin.
F
A
F
I,
don't
know
whether
we
actually
yeah
yeah
and
and
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
think
they
do
really
good
work
but
they're
at
the
very
early
stages
and
they're,
starting
to
Branch
out
I,
think
50
000
from
the
state
government
so
49
and
the
money
that
they've
had
from
councilor
McDonald
and
myself
should
be
enough
to
drive
things
forward.
Councilor.
A
C
C
A
C
A
F
For
the
state
government-
and
they
were
struggling
to
go
forward
with
that
program,
but
to
get
forty
nine
thousand
dollars
only
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
when
we've
got
some
of
these
groups
here
and
not
just
surf
life
saving
but
like
with
the
basketball
and
like
with
a
few
of
those
others.
I
actually
think
that
there's
groups
that
are
doing
good
work
and
don't
necessarily
have
either
the
green
feel
or
the
sustainability
Beyond
things
like
that
and
but
they're
doing
incredibly
good
Community
work,
so
yeah
just
a
thought.
A
So
counselors
at
zero
for
this
year,
yeah
sure
thanks,
bro,
okay!
Matt!
Do
you
have
any
idea
about
what
might
be
left
from
this
year's
budget
without
counting.
G
The
carry
forward-
yes,
so
it's
ballpark,
thirty,
seven
thousand
dollars
so
with
the
additions
and
deductions
from
the
original
Thirty.
One
thousand
dollar
balance
it
lands
at
about
37,
000.
A
Okay,
so
so
councilors,
so
we
have
the
surf
life,
saving
which
I
think
we
said
it
last
year
and
we'll
say
it
again
this
year
we
think
it's
important.
A
So
do
you
want
to
split
the
37,
or
do
you
want
to
dip
in
a
little
bit
into
the
carry
forward
amount
that
hasn't
been
allocated
right,
50
each?
Are
we
all
comfortable
with
50
each?
Is
anybody
uncomfortable
excellent?
Thank
you.
Did
you
get
that
Matt.
A
Right
at
Council
a
hammer
are,
we
is
this
Arrangement
and
how
this
works
changing
before
next
year.
Unfortunately,
it's
not
because
our
friends
in
the
state
government
have
legislation
which
makes
it
incredibly
difficult
for
us
to
actually
do
our
job
in
a
way
other
than
how
we've
done
it
understood.
So,
would
there.
F
A
And
so
mad,
if
there
was
a
way
for
you
to
quickly
edit
those
four
or
five
pages
and
maybe
circulate
them,
and
then,
if,
if
any
counselors
have
a
different
recollection
of
what
we've
achieved
and
what
Matt's
documented,
please,
let
me
know:
counselors,
are
we
happy
with
that
recommendation?
C
I
hope
that
we
can
slightly
refine
the
process
moving
forward.
I
understand
that
the
legislation
requires
that
we
went
through
this
in
the
way
that
we
did
in
Open
session
today.
It's
not
any
of
our
preference
to
cause
insult
to
anyone
by
making
changes,
but
they
are
done
with
the
very
best
of
intention
of
each
and
every
one
of
us.
So
thank
you
to
everyone
who
applied
and
for
their
input
into
this
fantastic
City.