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A
To
the
810
810th
council
round,
and
of
course
we
are
the
unfatigable
lifestyle
and
community
committee,
how
does
it
pronounce
councilwoman
jones
is
responsible
for
fans,
I'm
chomping
at
the
bit
to
hear
council
gates.
I
know
I
was
just
I
was
just.
I
was
triggering
you
emphatically,
I'm
thinking
about
fatigue
in
fatigue.
Okay,
we
will
look
up
that
a
bit
later,
but
in
any
case,
counselors
welcome
to
our
meeting
it's
a
cracking
day.
It's
a
cracking
agenda
as
well.
A
Great
councillors,
so
just
having
a
quick
squeeze
at
the
agenda,
we
have
attendance
and
apologies.
None
have
been
provided
to
me
director.
I
don't
think
we've
received
any
through
the
secretary.
Neither
have
we
any
leaves
of
absence
yeah
I've
conjugated
that
correctly
here
we
go
leaves
of
absence.
We'll
have
to
deal
with
the
confirmation
of
the
minutes.
Counselors
are
there
any
conflict
of
interest?
Declarations
will
be
made
today.
A
So,
okay,
so
we'll
probably
let
the
meeting
run
its
course
and
toward
the
end,
if
he
still,
if
he's
not
here,
then
we'll
note
his
apologies
yep
happy
days.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
counselor,
I'm
jones,
so
5.1
is
presently
starred.
I
don't
suppose
anyone
wishes
to
unstar
that
item
6.1
is
similarly
starred.
I
don't
believe
any
counsellor
I'd
like
to
understand
that
park
usage
for
community
benefit
policy.
Now
I
just
want
to
clarify
councillors
that
this
policy
has
nothing
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
issue
of
developers
making
arrangements
with
council
in
order
to
access
public
land
to
support
the
construction
phase
of
their
development.
A
It
has
more
to
do
with
the
coffee
cut
and
the
stand-up
paddle
shop
that
may
pop
up,
but
what
I've
done
is
in
order
to
to
clarify
that
point
and
give
the
community
some
confidence
that
we'll
respond
to
their
concerns.
I
have
worked
up
a
general
business
item
concerning
developer
arrangements
in
public
parks
that
will
be
dealt
with
in
general
business.
A
That
being
the
case,
I
just
wanted
to
gauge
from
councillors
whether
you
would
like
to
star
6.2
as
chair
of
had
the
benefit
of
briefing.
You
have
a
question.
Okay,
we
will
leave
6.2
unstarred
6.3.
I
propose
starring
because
it's
largely
procedural
6.4
is
starred,
I'm
very
comfortable
with
the
item
having
been
briefed.
Unless
you
have
any
questions
on
it,
counselors
we
might
leave
6.4
starred
7.1
similarly
is
presently
starred.
A
A
The
you
know
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
really
ask
questions
in
in
the
open,
because,
obviously,
that
matter
deals
with
procurement
matters.
Was
there
an
appetite
for
us
to
go
into
close
to
ask
further
questions,
or
were
we
individually
satisfied
with
the
briefings
we
received
great
well?
What
I
might
do
is
leave
that
starred,
so
just
so
that
we're
on
the
same
page,
5.1
will
be
starred,
6.1
will
be
starred.
A
Community
usage
for
community
benefit
policy
will
remain,
unstarred,
6.3
will
be
starred,
6.4
will
remain.
Starred
7.1
will
be
starred,
seven
point
of
remain
stared
at
seven
point.
Two
will
be
starred,
okay,
great,
so
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
sorry
so
you're
adding
a
star
to
six
point:
three:
yes,
because
it's
procedural
we're
merely
deferring
it
further
around.
I'm
just
checking.
B
A
A
Okay,
councillor
castro,
yeah,
wonderful,
all
right,
councilman
jones,
you
managed
to
track
down
councillor
toza.
I
haven't
tracked
down
councillor
toza
he's
at
a
medical
appointment
at
the
moment,
so
he's
sure
he'll
be
an
apology.
Okay,
great!
So
would
someone
like
to
move
that
the
apology
for
cancer
toes
would
be
noted,
counselor
caldwell
seconded
by
councillor
castro
I'll
put
that
to
a
vote
councillors
all
those
in
favor,
all
those
against
that's
carried
unanimously,
no
leaves
of
absence.
No
okay.
Would
someone
like
to
move
that
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting
be
confirmed?
A
Councillor
gates,
driver
secondary
councillor,
o'neill
I'll,
put
that
to
a
vote
councillors
all
those
in
favor
all
those
against
that
is
carried.
We
skip
past
four
there
being
no
conflict
of
interest
declarations
to
be
made.
Sorry,
mr.
B
Mr
chairman,
the
just
if
you
go
back
up
to
that
recording
of
the
apology,
I
think
it
was
recorded
incorrectly.
Okay,.
B
A
All
right
good
to
go.
Four
we'll
skip
past
councillors.
We
can
now
move
the
starred
items
which
I'm
happy
to
do.
Counselor
gates
be
happy
to
second
those
items
and
just
to
confirm
the
start.
Items
are
5.1,
6.1,
six
6.2,
6.3,
6.;
sorry,
not
6.2
6.3!
Thank
you
councils,
6.4,
7.1
and
7.2
all
right
counselors.
Any
questions
on
those
I'll
put
that
to
a
vote
all
those
in
favor
all
those
against
that
is
carried.
A
Wonderful
now
counselor
o'neill,
you
had
a
question
concerning
6.2.
Shall
we
hear
the
question
and
if
it's
simply
enough,
perhaps
we
can
get
an
answer
to
that.
C
Just
through
your
chair,
kiwi
park
in
cooling,
gator
is,
is
a
premium
destination
park
as
per
the
policy,
and
then
we
talk
about
timing
and
considering
peak
holiday
periods,
kewee
park
a
destination
park,
but
also
our
event
space.
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
there's,
not
a
lot
of
infrastructure
there.
C
Apart
from
you,
know,
electricity
and
and
services
like
that
in
the
there's
been
past
event,
events
there
that
that
have
been
told
by
parks
that
they
aren't
allowed
because
of
the
timing
of
being
school
holidays
and
then
the
renovation
of
the
park
afterwards.
C
I
just
would
like
to
see
an
event
space
that
doesn't
really
act
as
a
park
per
se,
be
given
a
little
bit
more
consideration
for
events,
especially
during
the
times
these
cover
times,
cool
and
gator
doing
it
so
so
tough
at
the
moment
just
trying
to
bring
vince
to
that
space
to
support
business
down
there
too.
So
I,
I
guess
this
is
all
fairly
broad
in
the
policy,
because
when
I
talk
about
events
and
and
school
holiday
periods,
it's
sort
of
like
a
really
sort
of
a
strict.
C
Well,
we
need
this
period
of
time.
So
I
guess
I
want
some
clarity
about
an
event
space,
as
opposed
to
just
a
park
area.
D
Thank
you
councillor
gates
your
question
through
the
chair.
Yes,
so
sorry,
sorry,
I'm
sorry.
The
question
you
bring
up
is
is
a
significant
challenge.
D
Obviously
we
want
to
see
as
much
economy
driven
through
those
event
spaces
at
the
moment,
but
also
looking
at
maintaining
the
the
usage
of
that
park
for
not
only
residents
but
also
working
through
those
holiday
school
period
times
at
the
moment,
as
we
work
through
the
process
at
the
moment,
we've
actually
informed
our
guys
to
say
listen,
you
know
the
last
two
years
have
been
really
quite
terrible
and
we
need
as
many
events
as
we
can
and
look.
Let's
be
honest.
Grass
can
be
repaired
and
we
can.
D
We
can
manage
those
sorts
of
things
so
as
far
as
actually
designating
that
as
an
event
space
per
se
to
be
always
utilized
in
that
way,
I'd
probably
have
to
take
that
on
notice
and
figure
out
how
we
can
do
her
best
best.
Look
at
that
for
you.
C
Thank
you
just
to
let
you
know.
I
know
that
is
encouraged
through
events
that
they
choose
outside
school
holiday
time.
But
what
comes
up
all
the
time
is
some
especially
talking
about
music
events.
Some
of
these
artists
are
really
really
quarantined
as
to
what
time
frame
they
can
spend
in
queensland
and
doing
events
there,
so
it
sometimes
that
we're
at
their
mercy
as
well
so-
and
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
consider
that
more
but
yeah,
I'm
happy
with
your
response.
Thank
you.
A
And
just
to
tease
that
out
further,
so
under
this
policy
city
officers
can
exercise
some
discretion
right
administratively.
If
there
was
some
internal
feedback
around
the
need
to
support
the
events
industry,
as
we
do
from
time
to
time
with
funding
that
would
be
considered
by
city
offices,
yeah.
Exactly.
E
F
Thank
you,
chair
and,
and
possibly
through
to
tony.
My
question
has
more
to
do
with
the
the
right
of
use
of
some
of
the
parks,
because
we
I'm
just
noticing
that
when
you
go
to
a
lot
of
the
agms
for
the
sporting
clubs
and
that
they're
talking
about
extending
their
football
season,
extending
their
soccer
season
extending-
and
we
know
that
parks
are
at
a
premium
at
the
moment
within
the
city
and
the
growing
population
of
demand
is
going
to
be
there.
F
But
you
know
what
used
to
be
an
18
or
20
week.
Football
period
season
is
now
26
week.
Well
they're
talking
of
going
to
a
26
week
season,
and
I
just
I
I
don't
know
whether
that
comes
back
to
our
state
bodies
as
to
like
our
football
bodies
or
our
soccer
or
or
netball
or
whatever.
But
it
just
seems
to
be
that
the
right
of
use
or
the
seasons
are
becoming
longer
and
longer,
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
how
much
weight
is
put
onto
that.
Whether
the
city
can
accommodate
that
going
forward.
D
Thank
you,
council
lang
through
the
chair.
We
need
to
probably
get
to
the
bottom
of
whether
or
not
a
lot
of
that
impact
was
due
to
covert
and
obviously,
as
we
came
out
of
covert
restrictions,
sporting
association,
sporting
organizations
said
right.
Let's
get
back
to
play,
let's
see
how
many
of
these
competitions
we
can
try
and
get
wrapped
up.
So
there
was
no
doubt
that
those
competitions
did
overlap
significantly.
D
Our
officers
do
liaise
with
all
of
the
state
and
the
local
associations
to
monitor
their
seasons
and,
as
best
as
possible,
push
back
on
certain
codes
to
say.
Well,
look
guys,
you
need
to
have
your
football
seasons
finished
by
a
certain
period
of
time,
so
we
have
the
time
to
get
things
like
cricket
pictures
and
those
sorts
of
things
ready.
D
A
I
think
that
real,
your
point
really
underscores
the
need
for
us
to
invest
in
our
existing
sporting
facilities,
because
merely
installing
lights,
for
example,
can
improve
the
carrying
capacity
for
what
we
already
have
not
pushing.
You
know
the
training
of
the
second
or
third
division
team
into
a
council
park.
A
So
I
think
when
our
sport
and
rec
policy
comes
up,
I'd
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
an
investment
pipeline
to
keep
sport
centered
in
areas
where
we
have
things
like
toilet
blocks,
for
example
correct
rather
than
in
in
parks
where
we
don't
have
it
and
we're
squeezing
out
members
of
the
community.
So
director,
if
you
could
reflect
on
that,
maybe
yeah.
E
So
through
the
chair,
I
think
the
other
thing
we're
trying
to
do.
Counselor
young
is
actually
expand
vertically,
so
we're
trying
to
get
the
older
kids
to
play
later,
so
try
and
squeeze
that
week
in
so
we
do
have
that
maintain
maintenance
period.
You
know
for
their
insurance
as
much
as
anything
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
ground's
not
too
hard.
E
So
I
think
we
are
absolutely
trying
to
put
our
foot
down
in
terms
of
having
those
maintenance
periods,
but
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
from
going
into
the
next
sporting
season
to
try
and
that
they
want
to
start
earlier
as
well.
So
an
absolute
battle
really
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
that
maintenance
period.
F
And
yeah,
please
counsel
and
following
on
from
our
our
bus
trip
the
other
day
up
to
the
the
new
facilities
and
up
there
at
the
northern
end
of
the
coast,
the
impacts
to
the
current
arrangements
with
right
of
use.
So
I
know
I
noted
on
the
day
how
you're
talking
about
we're
going
to
have
a
manager
in
there
who's
going
to
to
basically
be
looking
after
the
booking
side
of
things
and
the
maintenance
on
the
park
and
all
that
sort
of
thing.
And
I
think,
with
our
bigger
parks.
F
I
think
not
unlike
raw
water
parklands.
But-
and
I
know
in
time
it
will
end
up
at
hopefully
end
up
at
busy
as
well.
But
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
collectively
be
looking
at
where
our
bigger
facilities
are
is
having
that
core
management
done
by
the
city
so
that
we're
not
stretching
out
the
use
of
of
seasons
or
the
use
of
demand
on
those
grounds,
because
I
know
pizzi
park's
got
10
to
15
000
kids
a
week
going
through
there
and
it's
managed
by
they're
all
the
individual
groups.
F
And
it's
all
the
individual
groups
who
are
coming
in.
Who
are
expecting
demanding
wanting
delivered
but
realistically-
and
I
know
we're
not
far
off
appointing
someone
from
what
we
talked
about
in
the
last
budget,
but
I
actually
think
the
whole
management
of
the
precincts
that
precincts
that
size
needs
to
be
looked
at,
probably
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
that
we're
not
going
to
end
up
with
too
many
players
in
that
in
that
forum
and
having
to
deal
with
a
lot
of,
I
guess,
angst
going
forward.
Yeah.
A
Yeah
great
observation
and,
as
you
say,
particularly
with
something
like
busy
park,
it
would
probably
work
really
well
when
everyone's
getting
on,
but
with
more
pressure,
you
might
have
user
groups
ending
up
in
conflict
so
to
have
that
management
approach.
I
think
an
excellent
way
forward.
So
director
would
that
be
something
contemplated,
not
precinct
specific,
but
would
that
be
something
we'd
be
looking
at
in
that
sport
and
rec
plan
so
yeah
with
the
sport.
E
And
rep
plan-
absolutely,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
will
be
the
trigger
for
that
in
busy
park.
Councillor
young
is
events
when
you
have
an
event
space
there
and
you're
trying
to
coordinate
events
with
sporting
groups
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
That
would
trigger
something
like
that
and
maybe
for
some
of
the
the
smaller
parks
that
are
got
a
lot
of
high
use.
Then
you
could
look
at
clusters,
so
maybe
you
wouldn't
have
one
officer
for
a
park.
F
And
yeah,
and-
and
I
think
that
is
an
ideal
situation
going
forward,
because
we-
I
think
a
lot
of-
I
think
the
conflicts
that
happen
within
those
spaces-
are
lots
of
people.
Thinking
that
there
are
lots
of
groups
thinking
their
sport
is
the
most
important
and
the
city's
favoring
one
over
the
other,
which
there's
a.
G
F
Conflict,
yeah
not
a
lot,
but
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
conflict
busy
with
certain
groups,
thinking
that
perhaps
we're
doing
a
skate
park,
so
it's
benefiting,
whereas
we
haven't
got
a
let's
say,
a
running
track
or
something
like
that
which
we're
having
several
meetings
on
now
with
your
team,
which
is
great,
but
it's
just
and
we
spent
the
money
on
the
pool
but
you're
not
spending.
F
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
that
in-house
sort
of
developing
there
and
I'd
like
to
try
and
avoid
that
going
forward
by
you
know
having
somebody
looking
dedicated
long-term
yeah.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
reinforce
what
council
young's
saying.
Obviously
the
usage
is
becoming
a
struggle
in
all
sports
and
I
think
the
challenge
is
also
maintaining
the
levels
of
the
ground.
So
as
much
as
we're
trying
to
stay
on
one
field,
individual
clubs
are
actually
having
trouble
travel
troubles
between
their
own
organizations
with
women
seniors
and
the
juniors
in
relation
to
usage
of
the
sportage,
but
the
extended
time
frame
being
used
is
not
only
affecting
other
sports
overlapping,
it's
the
actual,
maintaining
of
those
actual
fields
as
well.
G
A
Council
young,
were
you
pretty
comfortable
with
where
we've
landed.
Policy-Wise,
given
some
of
the
pressures
you've
identified
and
I'm
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
a
sporting
ground
is
different
from
a
park.
A
But
but
do
you
see
any
inherent
issues
or
maybe
did
you
want
to
take
some
further
questions
offline
between
now
and
full
council
yeah?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we've
got
the
right
policy
settings
there,
because
I
think
we
all
want
to
see
as
much
utilization
of
these
spaces
as
possible
and
to
minimize
opportunities
for
conflict
right,
yeah,
wonderful,
so
between
our
council.
If
you
can
reflect
on
that
counselors
with
any
further
questions,
or
would
someone
like
to
move
the
recommendation?
A
Counselor
cashier,
you
happen
to
move
it
seconded
by
councillor,
caldwell
counselors
I'll,
put
that
to
a
fight,
because
I
don't
suspect
that
there
are
any
speakers
against
it.
Counselor
castro.
Did
you
want
to
share
some
comments?
No,
I
just
think
it's
it's
timely
to
update
the
policy.
I
think
it's
it's
very,
very
thorough.
I
had
a
a
few
issues
and
I've
read
through
and
all
the
issues
that
I
have
looked
like
they've
been
addressed.
So
I
think
everyone
seems
to
be
pretty
happy
with
it.
A
So
that's
good
thanks,
councillor
castron
I'd
just
like
to
flag
as
chair
that
city
officers
have
actually
done
an
incredible
body
of
work
to
untangle
a
mess
of
policies.
I
mean
just
have
a
look
at
part
two
there
that
the
following
existing
parks,
usage
policies,
be
retired,
a
b
c
d.
What
they've
actually
done
is
they've
streamlined
the
way
that
we
deal
with
the
community
and
provided
what
I
think
is
a
better
process
and
a
more
transparent
process
to
the
way
that
we
deal
with
those
who
want
to
make
use
of
public
space.
A
A
Counselors
I'll
put
that
to
a
vote,
all
those
in
favor
all
those
against
that
is
carried
wonderful
council's.
We
now
we've
run
the
course
of
the
agenda
proper
as
I've
foreshadowed.
I
do
intend
moving
a
general
business
item,
which
reads
as
follows.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
A
Two,
that
the
report
outlines
a
process
to
include
consultation
of
the
divisional
counsellor
and
periodic
updates
on
development
activity
in
parks
and
three
that
the
report
reviews
the
fees
and
bonds
apply
to
developers
using
parks.
You
have
to
sign
that
council
called
well
so
now
that
we
have
mover
in
second
and
I'll,
be
very
brief
here
councillors,
but
I
think
we
we
all
form
the
view
that
our
parks
and
open
spaces
are
there
for
community
benefit
and
when
the
community
is
excluded
from
the
benefit
of
those
spaces.
A
The
purpose
of
this
recommendation
is
essentially
to
do
nothing
other
than
give
the
community
the
utmost
comfort
that
we
are
alert
to
their
concerns
and
through
minor
tweaks
to
the
existing
policy.
We
can
arrive
at
an
outcome
that
or
a
process
that
is
more
transparent,
engages
with
divisional
representatives
so
that
there's
a
level
of
accountability
to
us
all
and
that
we
recover
the
true
cost,
the
true
social
cost
of
park
closures
to
ensure
that
the
community
is
left
better
off
and
not
worse
off.
A
These
are
minor,
tweaks
and
it'll,
be
up
to
city
offices,
to
review
the
status
quo
and
present
to
us
some
options,
but
hopefully
this
lances
the
boil-
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
let
city
officers,
review,
review
the
process
and
you
know
get
on
with
restoring
some
order
and
equity
to
our
public
open
space
around
construction
sites.
A
G
It's
not
questions,
I
just
want
to
give
feedback,
and
I'm
really
thankful
for
bringing
this
to
the
the
the
general
business
today.
I
think
it's
really
important.
We
understand
we've
just
spoken
about
open
parks
and
sporting
grounds
that
we
we
don't
have
enough
at
the
moment
with
a
growing
city
and
we've
also
spoken
about
events,
areas
where
we
maintain
that
we
all
maintain
that
these
parts
are
kept
open.
G
You
know
we
may
not
always
have
these
views,
but
we
just
come
from
a
run
down
the
park.
We'd
been
on
the
beach
we'd
had
activity
through
the
place,
and
I
said
where
else
in
australia
we've
got
this
lifestyle
and
we've
got
our
parks
to
enjoy,
and
while
we're
growing,
we
must
maintain
that
so
we
are
going
through
a
growth
spurt.
G
I
always
say
we're
like
a
teenager
still
growing,
but
we
need
to
ensure
that
these
parks
are
maintained
for
the
residents
construction
isn't
three
months
one
month,
it
can
be
two
three
years
and
we
got
it
in
all
our
areas
and
we're
to
make
sure
that
these
areas
are
maintained.
Developers
can
build,
you
can
go
to
any
city
around
australia
or
overseas
and
cities.
They
can't
have
park
lands,
so
they've
got
the
ability
to
build
their
high
rises
and
not
use
public
amenities.
G
So
it's
really
important
as
a
city
that
no
different
to
our
sporting
grounds
and
our
events
that
we
maintain
these.
These
lifestyles
for
the
people
living
in
the
area
and
when
we
are
going
through
the
growth
phases
we
are
at
the
moment.
We
need
more
importantly,
right
now
to
ensure
that
these
parks
are
maintained.
So
again,
I
thank
you
councillor
and
chair
for
bringing
this
to
the
table.
A
And
thanks
for
your
counsel,
your
input,
counselor
taylor-
I
just
want
to
make
it
patently
clear,
though,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
draw
out
the
intention
of
any
motion
that
this
outcome
would
not
necessarily
preclude
somebody
from
engaging
with
council
to
make
use
of
public
open
space
when
it
is
absolutely
necessary
to
support
construction,
which
is
important,
because
one
way
you
utilize
public,
open
space
is
by
giving
more
people
an
opportunity
to
be
on
the
doorstep
of
that
public
open
space.
So
I
totally
agree
with
you.
A
A
But
what
this
motion
does
is
acknowledge
the
fact
that
sometimes
that's
not
possible
and
when
it
is
not
possible,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
dealing
with
those
applications
in
a
way
that
is
absolutely
transparent
and
absolutely
consistent
and
is
open
to
the
community.
So
it's
not
a
wholesale
change
in
our
approach,
but
I
feel
as
though,
by
exposing
this
information.
More
openly
there
will
be
more
pressure,
I
think,
on
applicants
to
try
and
reduce
their
footprint
in
the
public
realm,
but
ultimately
we're
not
necessarily
precluding
it.
A
C
Thanks
chairman,
you
probably
opened
up
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I
think
we
need
to
highlight
the
difference
between
open
space
and
park
areas
and
streets
and
car
parks
and
footpath
closures,
because
it's
it's
inevitable
that,
with
the
amount
of
constructions
going
going
on
in
in
key
areas,
you
will
have
some
road
closures.
You
will
have
some
footpath
closures
and,
in
my
area,
a
very
tight
area
of
rainbow
bay.
Recently
part
of
the
construction
management
plan
for
a
development
down.
C
There
was
to
actually
negotiate
with
the
developer,
to
use
some
of
the
council
car
park
area
and
honestly
that,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
idea
for
that
particular
space,
because
it
would
have
meant
pandemonium
on
street
parking.
Apart
from
that,
so
I
think
we
just-
and
I
think
everything's
been
lumped
together
with
the
with
the
public
making
comments
about
the
open
space
area.
Now
that
sort
of
got
involved
with
footpaths,
road
closures,
car
parks,
we've
got
to
highlight
the
difference
that
that
we're
really
really
looking
at
open
space
and
park
areas
thanks
yeah.
A
But
I
don't
my
view
is
that
the
community,
in
the
absence
of
regular
reporting,
probably
does
not
understand
how
that
revenue
is
collected
at
what
rate
and
for
what
ultimate
purpose.
So
I
think
that
the
strike's,
a
good
balance
between
putting
pressure
on
applicants
to
reduce
their
footprint,
acknowledges
the
fact
that
they
can't
be
eliminated
from
the
public
space
in
every
case
and
all
together.
G
Thank
you
and
look,
I'm
understanding.
This
is
talking
about
open
space
and
we
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
roads
and
most
probably
some
car
parks
as
well
and
the
the
longer
a
developer
takes
to
build
because
of
not
having
access.
It's
going
to
in
fact
impact
the
community,
but
it
would
also
be
good
to
actually
understand
open.
G
Transparency
is
always
an
important
thing,
but,
like
we
do
in
events,
we
do
have
at
designated
parks
that
we
know,
and
the
community
may
know
what
can
and
can't
be
used,
particularly
at
the
moment,
as
we
can
see
what's
happening
in
maine
beach.
G
No
one
knows
the
actual
areas
around
so
whether
that's
something
that
can
be
also
discussed
or
looked
at
part
of
the
policy
that
the
community
have
got
a
clear
understanding
of
what
are
public
areas
that
shouldn't
be
touched
on
and
other
areas
that
yes,
we've
we've
kept
that
in
mind.
Yeah.
A
Like
in
our
park
usage
policy,
there
was
a
hierarchy
of
parks
and
perhaps
when
you
know,
there's
a
proposition
for
a
high-profile
park
which
provides
significant
social
and
recreational
opportunity.
If
that's
in
the
crosshairs,
perhaps
there's
a
different
free
of
charge,
that's
applied,
and
maybe
that
will
prompt
a
proponent
to
think
about
some
alternatives.
A
I
think
all
of
all
of
that
will
be
borne
out
by
the
review
director
yeah
and
I
don't
want
to
pre-judge
it
either,
because
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
can
be
done
is
an
analysis
of
how
other
local
government
areas
handle
this
issue
and,
as
you
say,
in
inner
city
locations,
where
you
have
significant
development,
you
not
you're,
probably
not
seeing
the
sort
of
you
know.
I
don't
want
to
call
them
public
place
shutdowns,
but
you're
not
seeing
as
many
closures
as
we
may
see.
Council
caldwell.
B
B
We've
seen
examples
at
cable
park
at
main
beach
and
what
happened
in
rudd
park,
for
example,
at
burley,
where
and
now
near
the
southport
surf
club,
where
we've
got
entire
sections
of
the
park
closed
down
for
very
long
periods
of
time,
and
there
needs
to
be
complete
transparency
about
how
that
decision
is
being
arrived
at.
What
the
trade-off
is
for
the
community.
B
In
the
longer
term-
and
I'm
particularly
interested
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
sending
a
clear
message
to
the
development
sector
that
they
need
to
do
better,
because
the
community
expectation
is
that
they
do
better
in
this
space.
So
hopefully
this
this
review
will
give
them
a
trigger
to
rethink
how
they
go
about
doing
their
business
because
it
clearly,
I
think
the
balance
has
slipped
a
little
bit
too
much
into
their
favor.
A
Thanks
councillor,
caldwell
and
I'll
reflect
on
the
approval
for
a
development
at
varsity
lakes,
which
I
won't
name,
but
the
council
and
its
wisdom
did
something
that
they
had
never
done
before,
and
that
was
to
ban
construction
related
traffic
from
an
entire
traffic
management
area.
It's
about
78
streets
and
you
know
what
the
development's
unfolding
and
there's
no
construction
activity
like
construction
vehicles,
not
even
a
delivery
vehicle
in
the
street,
so
yeah
council
gates.
A
A
Yeah
well
standard
conditions
that
put
more
pressure
on
developers
would
be
a
a
good
start.
You
know
so
I
know
I
think
it
was
in
the
term
of
the
former
council.
I
had
a
gb
through
tni
that
looked
at
construction
related
traffic,
around
development
and
as
a
council
we
considered
standard
conditions
back
then
our
money
labouring
under
the
assumption
that
those
were
ultimately
adopted,
but
I'm
going
to
pull
out
that
report
and
take
a
second
look
and
if
they
need
to
be
tightened
up
with
respect
to
footpath
closures.
And
what
have
you
then?
A
Let's
take
a
fresh
look
but
yeah
here
with
parks.
I
think
this
review
is
probably
the
most
urgent
urgent
priority
for
the
community
at
the
moment.
Counselors
any
further
questions
comments.
No
I'm
happy
to
put
that
to
a
vote.
Then
all
those
in
favor,
all
those
against
that
is
carried
council
gates.
Do
you
have
a
gb.
F
A
A
Awesome
awesome
awesome.
A
So
good
counselors
any
further
general
business
items,
chomping
no
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
The
meeting
is
now
closed.
At
1,
39.
have
a
great
day.