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A
A
Counsellor
councillor,
bard
and
lumsden
all
right
councillors,
confirmation
minutes
from
last
week,
someone
like
to
move
the
minutes
moved
by
councillor,
hamill
seconded
by
councillor,
o'neal,
all
in
favor,
against
carried
conflict
of
interest
declarations.
Cancer
guards-
I
think
you
got
a
couple
lined
up-
is
that
right,
four.
A
All
right
we'll
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried
out.
Sorry,
I
have
to
take
the
vision
on
that
cancel
hammer
cancer
on
jones
cancer,
peter
young
councillor,
vorster
cancer,
pauline
young
cancer,
o'neill
councillor,
caldwell
against
and
council
gates
did
not
vote
all
right.
Second,
one
cancer
guards.
D
D
And
mr
chairman,
we
received
a
supplementary
agenda
item
last
night
that
lists
the
owner
of
a
property
at
the
time
of
the
application
lodgement
with
a
company
called
rpa
properties,
proprietary
limited
and
I
have
no
knowledge
of
rpa
properties,
proprietary
limited,
but
given
the
location,
I'm
presuming
that
they
may
be
associated
with
rabina
projects,
proprietary
limited
so
in
an
abundance
of
caution.
I'm
making
a
declaration
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest,
declaration
that
robina
projects,
proprietary
limited,
contributed
1250
dollars
to
my
2016
election
fundraiser
and
that,
due
to
the
possible
relationship
with
rpa
properties,
proprietary
limited.
D
A
E
A
A
D
G
G
The
native
vegetation
mapping
is
conducted
every
two
years
and
provides
the
city
with
total
native
vegetation
cover
and
condition
information,
which
is
how
we
track
our
corporate
targets
within
the
gold
coast.
2022
corporate
plan,
the
corporate
plan
targets
act
as
a
health
check
against
the
city's
aspirational
goal
of
delivering
a
connected
and
secured
diversity
areas
network,
as
of
2019
native
vegetation
cover,
is
sitting
at
50.55
of
the
city's
total
land
area,
just
585
hectares
short
of
the
desired
51
target.
G
To
help
address
these
pressures
on
our
biodiversity
areas,
the
city
has
developed
a
suite
of
existing
and
highly
successful
programs,
including
the
restoration
and
management
of
the
city's
conservation
area,
the
city's
successful
natural
areas,
acquisition
program,
our
conservation
partnerships
program
and
our
city's
environmental
offsets
program
just
to
name
a
few
in
response
to
the
future
pressures
and
to
help
us
achieve
our
desired
target
of
51
native
vegetation
cover.
The
city
has
developed
a
restoration
roadmap
to
guide
the
protection
and
enhancement
of
native
vegetation
in
the
city.
F
F
A
A
D
A
And
I
think
just
to
broaden
that
out
a
little
bit
the
particular
entity
that
gave
you
the
donation,
as
I
understand,
is
inextricably
inextricably
linked
through
the
legislation
framework,
okay,
which
is
exactly
what
we
would
be
seeking
to
potentially
amend.
So
I
think,
to
be
absolutely
cautious.
There's
that
that's
what
should.
E
Well,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
of
cons,
just
before
councillor
gates
makes
her
declaration
the
the
subject
planning
area
includes
a
couple
of
developable
parcels
and
by
bond
university,
though,
given
the
given
the
muted
changes
affect
a
significant
number
of
people
in
the
local
government
area.
My
practice
has
not
been
to
make
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
declaration,
but
I
just
thought
I'd
flag,
that
with
councillors
in
case
they
thought
otherwise
well
and
just.
A
E
E
A
H
A
Okay,
cancels
I'm
happy
to
move
that
despite
the
daggers
from
tizer
seconded
by
councillor
peter
young,
all
right
we'll
take
the
vote.
All
in
favor
council
hammer
cancer
on
giants,
cancer,
pedia
on
council,
paul
and
young
councilor,
our
neil
cancer
caldwell
against
and
council
gates
did
not
vote
right.
Let's
move
on
with
items
whatever
it
was.
E
E
F
E
So,
mr
chairman,
so
what
the
report
attempts
to
do
is
to
identify
the
fact
that
there
will
need
to
be
some
changes
to
the
way
in
which
development
outcomes
are
managed
and
assessed
in
robina,
particularly
as
the
present
framework
approaches,
a
point
of
not
being
fit
for
purpose
and
essentially
may
need
to
be
scrapped
in
order
for
us
to
land
on
a
position
on
what
that
framework
ought
to
be
and
how
the
community
should
be
engaged
to
shape
it
ahead
of
that
process.
And
in
the
midst
of
us
doing
it.
E
A
The
thing
is
that
the
the
review
is
intended
to
be
a
holistic
review
of
the
area
and
the
governance
under
the
act,
and
that
we
start
putting
forward
our
thoughts
on
what
it
should
be
reviewed
to
become
so.
A
part
of
that
is
probably
an
identification
of
infrastructure
needs
which
may
be
brought
on
by
the
games
village,
for
example.
But
it's
not
that's,
not
the
entire
body
of
work
that
we're
doing
and.
E
Oh
yeah,
I've
looked
into
this
yeah,
that's
the
way.
It's
it.
It
is,
I
know
so,
mr
just
through
the
account
is
it
yeah.
It
is
so
cool
to
counselor
gates.
To
my
mind,
this
is
a
necessary
body
of
work,
but
if
the
state
government's
going
to
carve
off
seven
and
a
half
hectares
and
do
whatever
the
hell
they
want,
there's
actually
no
point
in
us
embarking
on
this
exercise,
so
I
think
very
early
on.
E
A
E
H
Through
mr
chair,
I
am,
I
think,
there's
a
two
separate
so
there's
this
work,
this
resolution,
but
there's
also
the
resolution
that
council
volster
moved.
I'm
not
sure,
accounts
a
couple
of
months
ago.
Would
it
have
been
six
to
eight
weeks
ago,
so
that
is
more
focused
on
those
infrastructure
risks,
but
absolutely
those
these
two
pieces
of
work
will
come
together.
So
I
think
it's
fine
the
way
it
is
okay,.
E
I'm
happy
to
move
it
if
I've
got
a
second
yeah,
I'm
having
a
section
of
that.
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
a
doctor
thanks,
mr
chairman.
What's
really
interesting
about
the
suburb
of
robina
is
that
it
was
master
planned
and
it
was
the
first
of
its
type
really
nationally,
and
the
original
master
plan
didn't
contemplate
the
town
centre
that
we
now
have
smack
bang
in
the
heart
of
robina
and
at
the
heart
of
the
gold
coast
it
didn't.
E
The
town
centre
came
afterwards,
and
the
town
centre
originally
had
an
ambition
to
service
the
immediate
catchment
of
rabina.
But
the
reality
is:
if
you
live
in
byron
bay,
you
will
probably
at
some
point
find
your
way
to
rubina,
and
if
you
live
probably
to
the
outskirts
of
kumara,
maybe
you
need
to
get
your
iphone
repaired.
E
E
As
policy
makers,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
make
the
best
and
highest
use
of
that
land
right,
but
that
those
services
and
those
residents
that
we
would
have
on
that
land
would
be
completely
isolated
from
the
rest
of
the
gold
coast.
If
we
don't
have
supporting
infrastructure
to
get
people
in
and
out.
E
E
E
These
developments
are
also
not
publicly
advertised,
so
our
current
planning
instrument
is
stacked
in
in
favor
of
the
developer.
It's
not
stacked.
It's
not
balanced,
so
that
the
community
has
input
into
development
decisions
and
perhaps
through
this
process,
by
crafting
a
new
planning
framework
for
robina.
That
meaningfully
reflects
the
community's
aspirations.
We
can
set
out
a
development
pattern
that
gets
it
right
for
the
first
time
in
many
decades.
E
I
just
want
to
close
by
saying
this
we're
going
to
embark
on
a
great
body
of
work,
but
let's
not
underestimate
the
resistance
that
we
will
encounter
from
the
state
government,
the
very
fierce
resistance,
so
much
of
the
land
in
this
part
of
robina
is
owned
by
the
state
government's
own
development.
Business
qic
and
they've
got
they've
got
a
commercial
imperative
to
return
as
much
money
as
they
can
to
the
state
government.
E
E
I
don't
want
to
call
it
the
cbd,
because
I'll
trigger
council
of
paterson,
but
we
won't
be
able
to
develop
a
center
here
on
the
gold
coast
that
creates
jobs,
supports
education
and
is
connected
to
the
rest
of
the
city,
so
that
everyone
can
benefit
from
the
public
and
private
investment
in
the
space.
Thank
you.
D
D
Is
there
a
body
that,
similarly
to
the
declarations
that
we
make
around
this
table,
they
are
required
to
make
or
perhaps
defer
to
someone
else
for
the
decision
making
or
can
the
state
do
whatever
they
want
without
mind
to
any
perceived
conflicts
that
exist
I
mean
there's,
not
one
person
that
would
not
think
they
could
well.
Everyone
would
agree.
There
is
a
perceived
conflict
in
relation
to
this
matter
if
their
investment
arm
owns
much
of
the
land.
So.
E
E
The
state
government's
development
business,
so
the
state
government
is
a
developer
with
commercial
ambitions,
is
qic
limited,
qic
limited
is
owned
by
two
people,
the
premier
of
queensland
and
the
treasurer
of
queensland
right.
The
premier
is
also
the
minister
for
the
olympics,
and
the
olympics
minister
proposes
to
deliver
an
athlete's
village
on
land
owned
by
her
business
to
yield
a
commercial
return
while
benefiting
from
state
state
government
framework.
That
means
that
they
might
not
pay
any
infrastructure
fees
whatsoever.
Who's
also
come
out
and
said
that
she
proposes
a
priority
development
area
to
fast-track
the
development.
E
I'd
expect
the
premier
would
have
to
do
the
same.
So
I
think
we've
got.
We
are
going
to
get
a
bit
of
pushback
from
the
state
government
as
long
as
they
manage
those
conflicts.
They
absolutely
need
to
be
part
of
the
process,
but
I
expect
that
we
will
need
clarity
on
it
and
I
really
want
to
thank
you
councillor
gates
for
flagging
that
as
an
issue.
It's
long
concerned
me
too.
A
C
Six
point:
three:
sorry
6.3,
so
it's
really
just
a
question
I'm
so
I'm
happy
to
well.
Maybe
I
will
be
happy
to
move
it
shortly,
but
the
the
question
was
the
original
in.
I
thought
the
original
intent
was
a
review
of
the
the
priority
development
areas
impacting
on
southport
and
there
are
two
of
them
so
there's
southport
and
there's
parkwood
priority
development
area
and
parklands,
and
it
would
appear
that
it's
just
the
entire
report's
just
concentrated
on
the
southport
pda
and
I
was
just
wondering
why.
H
Previous
resolutions,
the
first
resolution
spoke
to
both
the
southport
pda
and
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct
at
parkwood.
This
report
responds
to
a
later
resolution,
brought
by
councillor
patterson,
to
scope
and
provide
a
budget
outline
for
the
southport
pda.
We
are
proposing
to
actually
bring
back
a
separate
report
in
response
to
the
health
and
knowledge
precinct
and
its
pda.
H
The
difference
between
both
pdas
is
that
the
southport
pda
council
is
a
delegate
of
which
means
we
have
the
ability
to
amend
the
development
scheme
in
consultation
and
through
the
approval
of
the
minister
with
the
health
and
knowledge
pda.
The
state
is
still
a
delegate,
so
we
have
to.
We
can
provide
input
in
terms
of
its
development
horizons
and
development
schemes,
but
we
don't
have
any
ability
to
amend
the
development
scheme.
C
H
Through
the
chair
there,
this
will
form
part
of
the
work
is
actually
looking
at
the
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
all
the
planning
instruments,
so
city
plan
included,
as
you
would
be
aware,
we've
been
in
an
amendment
process
with
city
plan.
For
four
years
the
southport
sep
was
has
been
adopted
or
will
be
adopted
within
a
two-year
time
frame.
So
there
are
benefits
of
both
instruments.
It's
just
working
out.
How
can
a
council
can
well.
C
A
B
Mr
chair,
can
I
flag
something
with
committee
before
the
presentation
starts
yeah?
It's
just.
I
wanted
to
flag
with
the
committee
just
for
transparency
that
my
first
job
I
was
actually
still
in
high
school,
but
for
six
months
after
leaving
school
was
with
the
town
planning
consultant
in
this
report.
So
that's
17
years
ago
I
obviously
haven't
declared
a
conflict
of
interest.
B
A
B
At
that
point
in
time,
it
was
only
in
regards
to
one
delegation
which
at
that
stage
like
he
was
with
within
the
first
few
weeks,
and
I
wasn't
sure
how
to
handle
it
yet.
So
I
passed
it
over
to
you
as
chair
to
handle
the
delegation
right
and
after
that
got
further
advice
and
come
to
the
conclusion
that
there
was
no
declaration
to
be
made.
B
F
B
I
Thank
you,
and
through
the
chair,
just
a
question
to
councillor
hamel
as
well,
so
you
had
a
six
month,
employment.
I
would
imagine
it's
with
mr
gassman
as
the
applicant.
How
close
is
your
association
with
him
now
having
worked
with
him
and
living
in
the
same
area
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff?
Do
you
have
a
close
association
with
him.
B
I
know
not
a
close
association,
counselor
young
living
and
working
in
that
area
for
17
years
in
school,
through
community
groups
and
through
some
of
my
previous
employers.
I've
had
work
done
through
that
entity,
so
some
of
the
community
groups
I've
worked
with
who
needed
engineering
or
templating
advice.
He
offers
that
service
at
no
cost,
and
a
couple
of
my
previous
employers,
when
needing
town
planning
or
engineering
advice
have
used
him
as
well.
I
A
A
I
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
to
counselor
young.
No,
I
don't,
as
mentioned
I'm
happy
to
meet
with
any
town
planning
consultant
that
wishes
to
discuss
any
application
in
my
area
so
afford
the
same
to
everybody.
I'm
definitely
open
and
persuadable
this
and
have
been
the
whole
way
through,
what's
been
a
fairly
long
application
and
process
on
this
one.
Thank
you.
C
B
J
H
L
E
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
look
I'm
not
of
the
mind
to
move
a
procedural
motion
here,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
explain
why,
on
the
public
record
being
the
recording
of
this
meeting,
so
my
view
is
based
on
the
significant,
the
very
significant
amount
of
time
that
has
elapsed
between
council
hamilt's
employment
and
the
decision
today.
17
years
I
mean
it's
nearly
two
decades.
E
Also
the
nature
of
councillor
hamill's
work
didn't
concern.
Town
planning
decisions
or
policy
or
development
applications
was
as
a
laborer
doing,
surveying
work.
So
for
me,
the
nexus
is
further
broken
there
and
in
response
to
councillor
young's
question
about
being
a
close
associate
or
what
have
you,
I
don't
have
the
impression
that
mr
gassman
would
be
a
potential
groomsman
at
a
future
wedding.
E
On
that
basis,
I
can't
legitimately
form
the
view
that
we're
dealing
with
a
close
associate
here
and
therefore
I
don't
personally
believe
that
a
conflict
needs
to
be
managed.
There
may
be
issues
concerning
perception,
but
I
think
those
arise
out
of
a
line
of
questioning
not
because
of
any
genuine
concern
in
the
community.
So
that's
my
view.
A
B
J
Good
morning,
mr
chair
councillors,
through
you,
mr
chair
item,
6.5,
is
a
proposal
for
a
combined
development
permit
for
a
material
change
of
use
for
a
service
station
food
and
drink
outlet
involving
a
drive-through
facility
and
shop.
A
reconfiguration
of
lot
for
a
two
into
two
lot
subdivision.
The
new
road
new
public
road
and
operational
works
for
both
change
to
ground
level
and
vegetation
clearing
at
what
10
and
14
albertson
road
alberton.
J
The
subject
side
is
located
within
the
rural
zone.
It's
currently
improved
by
a
dwelling
house
and
associated
structures
and
is
predominantly
utilized
for
cropping
and
agricultural
use
with
land
opposite
stapleton,
jagers,
well
road
to
the
south
and
ableton
road
to
the
west
identified
within
the
future
industry
precinct
of
the
medium
impact
industry
zone.
J
J
In
context
of
the
surrounding
area,
the
subject
side
is
located
on
the
periphery
of
the
industrial
zone,
land
to
the
west
and
the
rural
zone
land
to
the
east.
The
subject
side
is
also
adjacent
to
and
located
within
the
future.
The
gazetted
future
state
transport
corridor,
the
cumbra
connector,
an
excerpt
of
the
gazette.
The
corridor
can
be
found
on
page
286
of
the
agenda.
J
The
development
footprint,
specifically
the
access
of
ableton
road
and
stableton
jacksonville
road,
has
taken
into
consideration
the
future
coomber
connector
alignment
in
coordination
with
the
department
of
transport
main
roads.
The
proposal
maintains
a
development
setback
of
approximately
22
to
25
meters
at
the
stable
than
jakesville
road,
in
accordance
with
the
future
assumption
requirements
by
the
state.
So
you
can
see
that
setback
requirement
they're
on
stage
and
elberton.
J
So
the
development's
able
to
connect
to
existing
200
mil
water
main
within
the
state
on
the
jacksonville
road.
However,
as
the
detailed
design
of
the
future
camera
connector,
is
not
yet
known,
alternate
sewer
infrastructure
alignments
for
the
immediate
area
have
not
yet
been
finalized,
so
through
consultation
with
council's
water
and
waste
assessment,
section
and
department,
transport
main
roads
and
sarah
officers
are
accepting
of
an
interim
civil
solution.
Until
such
time,
the
ultimate
source
sewer
infrastructure
is
delivered.
This
is
to
ensure
council's
infrastructure.
J
J
This
has
been
confirmed
by
council's
plumbing
and
drainage,
section
and
water
and
waste
as
an
acceptable
solution.
Conditions
have
been
included
in
the
office's
recommendation
requiring
the
development
to
connect
to
the
ultimate
sewer
alignment
within
six
months
of
it
being
available
with
regard
to
the
actual
overall
service
station
development
component.
J
The
transfer
of
the
proposed
lot
506
for
public
park
consistent
with
the
lg,
has
been
a
consideration
and
support
for
the
proposal
as
a
whole.
Overall
officers
are
supportive
of
the
proposed
development
subject
to
conditions,
as
included
in
the
officer's
recommendation.
I
have
to
field
any
questions.
If
you
have
any.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
Maybe
this
is
a
good
slide
to
work
with
council's
recently
resolved
to
carry
out
some
exploratory
work
around
indus
the
industrial
estate.
I
get
the
impression
that
this
future
sports
park
is
located
approximate
to
an
existing
industrial
area.
The
purple
it's
purple,
so
so
purple's
industrial,
correct
right
and
the
balance
slot
is
an
elgip
site
identified
for
sport
and
rec.
Is
that
correct.
J
J
Through
wrestling
and
kane
through
mr
g,
these
identified
in
the
rural
zone
and
outside
the
urban
footprint,
it's
its
uses
would
predominantly
be
limited
to
rural
pursuits.
Those
same
considerations
applied
to
the
subject's
site,
but
officers
have
considered
the
the
specific
location
of
the
mcu
component
immediately
adjacent
the
future
industry
precinct
and
the
kumara
connector
alignment
as
a
reason
as
to
why
we
support
it.
Despite
the
rules,
zoning
and.
E
E
E
K
E
K
E
K
E
E
A
C
J
Through
you,
mr
chair
counselor,
ellen
jones,
yes,
so
by
virtue
of
the
site
being
identified
in
the
rural
zone,
its
primary
purpose
is
to
be
to
be
retained
for
rural
activities.
So
by
virtue
of
the
identified
need
in
the
elgip
for
this
sports
park,
we've
considered
the
algebra
supersede
the
rural
intent
of
the
site
and
by
virtue
of
parks
and
recreational
services,
support
for
the
proposal
subject
to
the
transfer
of
the
land.
We
have
recommended
approval.
J
Now,
that's
that's
not
just
to
say,
without
that
we
wouldn't
have
supported
the
mcu
component,
because
we
are
satisfied
that
the
mcu
component
is
well
suited
to
service
that
burgeoning
industrial
development
it
caters
for
heavy
vehicles.
The
impacts
associated
with
this
development
are
akin
to
the
development
impacts
that
would
be
experienced
by
the
immediate
industrial
area
when
it
expands.
C
J
B
I've
come
to
the
position
that
I'm
not
supportive
of
that,
and
I
would
like
to
tease
out
with
a
few
questions
to
ross
on
on
a
reasoning
around
that
a
bit
which
one
of
my
main
concerns
is
is
that
this
was
identified
in
lg
one
and
that
since
then,
we've
purchased
the
increment
property
in
the
stuart's
farm
property.
Could
you
give
some
detail
to
councils
on
how
advanced
your
section
is
in
terms
of
actually
master
planning
those
sites
to
determine
what
utilization
we'll
get
out
of
those.
K
K
Through
mr
chair,
yes,
it
does.
When
we
plan
the
lg,
we
look
at
what
we
need,
ultimately
in
terms
of
hectares
of
land
for
sport,
quantum
of
ovals
rectangles,
rectangle,
ovals
or
rectangle
fields,
courts
and
the
like,
and
it
in
this
this
particular
site,
as
well
as
all
the
other
sites
that
we've
recently
acquired,
are
required
to
satisfy
the
you
know,
growing
demand
in
sport
in
the
city
well
into
the
future.
K
B
Yet
the
report
would
suggest
that
if
we
don't
that
the
support,
the
report
reads
that
this
is
the
last
block
of
land
in
the
city
that
we
could
get
hold
of
for
sports
fields
which,
based
on
what's
in
lgb,
one,
is
accurate.
But
would
it
be
more
accurate
to
say
that
while
it's
identified
in
elgip
and
you
can
impose
these
conditions-
which
you
have,
but
it's
not
the
only
block
of
land
left
that
could
be
considered?
There
are
other
options
that
could
be
looked
at
three.
Mr.
B
Is
there
an
opportunity
ross
that
in
master
planning
the
stewart's
farm
property
that
it
could
actually
end
up
being
determined
as
a
city
park
based
on
the
amount
of
sportings
you
can
get
in
its
size
three
year?
Mr
chad
is
certainly
yeah.
That
would
be,
and
would
I
be
accurate
in
saying
that
versus
this
site,
which
has
a
residential
population
around
it,
of
about
600
people,
that
the
stuart's
farm
has
got
20
000
in
almo
and
then
another
hundred
thousand
in
the
pimp
mccream
attachment
within
ten
minutes,
drive
three,
mr
chair,
that.
K
B
Mr
chad,
through
to
ross,
we
had
a
discussion
about
the
fact
that,
if
I
chose
to
bring
this
to
committee
and
possibly
look
to
remove
those
conditions
that
it
would
allow
the
most
recent
resolution
in
regards
to
the
staple
and
land
use
investigation
to
occur
and
that,
if
from
that
investigation,
determined
that
the
higher
and
better
use
of
this
site
in
the
future
was
for
industrial
purposes
that
there'd
be
nothing
stopping.
Lg,
2
being
updated
and
another
site
being
identified
for
a
city
sports
park.
K
B
Acquisitions
and
the
light,
but
also
in
the
same
way,
mr
chair,
through
the
ross
that,
if
I
remove
these
conditions
today
with
the
support
of
committee
and
then
the
support
of
council,
we
allow
that
land
use
investigation
to
occur
and
it
determines
that
this
shouldn't
be
used
for
anything
else,
and
that
should
be
a
city
sports
park
that,
because
it's
still
in
lgbt,
we
would
get
another
bite
of
the
cherry
in
the
future.
To
take
this
land
three
minutes,
my
understanding
is
that's
correct,
yep,
mr
question,
that
was
mr
chair.
B
A
I
I
Yes,
so
we're
sort
of
looking
at
a
four-year
difference
there
on
our
population
projections
for
that
area
and
on
the
population
demand
for
city
sports
parks
in
that
area.
So
I
think
the
changes
in
that
four
year
peri
period
are
very
evident
to
all
of
us,
so
in
looking
at
algeb
2
planning
going
forward
with
the
population
demands
in
that
area.
Are
we
looking
that
there
will
be
a
greater
need
for
this
area
this
park
in
that
area.
K
Three,
mr
chair,
that,
overall,
in
you
know,
taking
the
50-year
view,
there's
marginally
no
change,
but
in
elgift
in
the
draft
deal
drip2,
we
have
shifted
out
the
embellishment
and
acquisition
of
of
this
particular
site
because
of
some
of
the
other
acquisitions
that
we've
recently
got
they
of
a
higher
better
value
and
closer
to
proximity
to
to
the
current
population.
So
that's
why
they're
in
the
draft
dell
drip2,
it's
actually
been
shifted
out.
F
A
K
F
Thank
you
and
the
proximity
of
a
service
station
to
playing
fields
and
stuff
doesn't
worry
you
in
the
future
like
if
we
were
dealing
with
an
existing
recreational
park
like
we've,
got,
let's
say
kumara,
you
know
with
lots
of
sports
fields
and
someone
wanted
to
put
a
service
station.
Would
you
have
a
concern
about
that.
A
J
E
J
Mr
chair,
that
is,
the
the
value
of
the
land
that
that
we've
identified
for
the
acquisition
of
that
land
correct
and
would
generally
be
offset
against
the
infrastructure
charges.
However,
in
this
instance,
the
infrastructure
charges
for
this
proposal
only
amount
to
three
hundred
and
thirty,
seven
thousand
so.
E
E
Right
but
the
cost
overall
might
be
lower
because
we're
taking
off
a
portion
of
the
site
and
allowing
it
to
be
developed
for
a
service
station.
Right
so
say
there
was
the
whole
rectangular
portion
right.
The
value
of
the
lands
based
on
the
area
of
the
land,
but
a
little
bit's
been
taken
off
yeah
impairing.
E
Yes
through
yep,
so
so
my
question
is
this:
if
this
parcel
of
land
were
in
a
more
developed
part
of
the
city,
how
much
would
we
as
an
estimate,
be
setting
aside
to
acquire
it
and
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
this:
we
might
have
allocated
two
million
dollars
to
acquiring
the
land
near
2036,
but
the
land's
not
going
to
be
worth
that
much
in
2036.
It's
going
to
be
worth
more,
I
suppose
so.
I
want
to
try
and
understand
how
far
ahead
we
can
get
by
acquiring
the
land
today.
B
B
E
So
I
mean
mr
chairman
three
year:
we've
had
examples
where
we've
acquired
other
land
in
the
north
of
the
city
and
council.
I
don't
want
to
say,
we've
been
pressured
because
that's
the
wrong
way
of
putting
it.
We
make
our
own
decisions,
but
it's
been
very
clear
to
council
that
we
need
to
act
because
of
dwindling
supply
and
escalating
costs
for
developable
land
right
are
those
same
pressures
at
play
on
this
side
or
to
councillor
hamel's
point:
are
there
other
comparable
sites
in
that
area?
K
Through
through
the
chair,
the
answer
to
both
those
questions
is
yes,
so
it
is
a
it
it
is.
There
are
pressures
the
best
time
to
purchase
land
is
obviously
now,
but
that
doesn't
take
away.
The
fact
that
the
answer
to
hamel's
question
council
hamill's
question
is
is
is
still
is
still
yes,
what
the
cut,
what
you
know
the
current
intended
land
use
for
it
is
now
or
into
the
future,
may
change.
I
I
The
city's
got
that
land,
but
it
has
been
a
landfill,
and
we
know
it's
even
though
it's
in
the
most
important
you
know
close
in
with
the
city
to
our
you
know
changing
infrastructure,
and
that
does
this
land
have
any.
What's
the
word
encumbrances
that
are
going
to
if
it
was
developed
into
a
sports
park,
put
additional
impost
on
the
ratepayers.
K
L
L
K
L
L
L
C
Just
saying
I
don't
know,
if
that's
a
so,
mr,
I
don't
think
it's
the
intent
of
the
officer
in
making
the
recommendation
that
we're
in
the
business
of
speculating
to
make
money
out
of
property
acquisitions.
I
think
it's
the
object
of
the
offices
in
making
the
recommendation
to
reflect
previous
decisions
of
council
in
regards
to
elgip
one
and
clearly
draft
and
elgib
too
so,
and
I
think
we
all
represent
areas
of
the
city
where
we'd
all
have
had
like
to
have
had
25
hectares
of
relatively
encumbered
land
to
do
fields
of
for
for
play.
C
But-
and
I
acknowledge
councillor
hamill-
does
have
concerns
in
regards
to
what
it
might
mean
for
future.
La
planning,
land
use
decisions.
But
I
suppose
my
observation
is
just
to
spear
the
thought
that
we're
only
putting
a
condition
or
proposing
a
condition
through
an
officer's
recommendation
to
potentially
speculate
on
the
future
value
of
land
yeah.
So.
B
Council
hamill,
mr
chair
only
to
reinforce
council
aaron
jones's
the
comments
on
that.
I
don't
think
that's
the
the
purpose
of
the
recommendation
at
all.
I
fully
acknowledge
the
statutory
requirement
of
lgb1
and
understand
why
these
conditions
are
here
in
looking
to
do
what
I'm
doing
as
well,
but
we
have
discretion
over
it
just
because
it's
in
lg
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
take
it.
B
B
This
isn't
going
to
be
the
last
80
hectares
of
cane
fields
that
the
city
can
get
hold
of.
It's
just
is
this
the
right
time
in
this
location
to
be
taking
20
hectares
in
this
corner,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
no
other
questions,
mr
chair,
I'm
happy
to
move
that
and
make
the
amendments
to
the
conditions.
F
K
Through
the
chair,
yes,
that
is
desirable
yep
for
access.
Yes,
yes,
for
access
to
the
broader,
you
know
wider,
wider
community,
yeah
being
a
city
sports
park,
the
intent
is
to
attract,
and
you
know
like
large-scale
competitions
throughout
the
city.
You
know
we
envisage
players
at
busy
park
to
be
coming
up
for
a
game
up
at
you
know
up
at
these
city
sports
parks
into
well
into
the
future.
Thanks
thanks.
L
A
B
B
J
Three,
mr
chair,
the
the
required
for
the
boundary
fencing
interfacing
with
public
open
space
is
that
that's
a
standard
condition
both
open
space
assessment
and
parks
and
rec
were
satisfied
that
when
future
embellishments
were
undertaken,
they
could
handle
the
the
specific
interface
matters.
With
the
exception
of
the
fencing.
B
B
B
B
E
Council
also
question
yeah
thanks,
mr
chairman,
so
obviously
we
haven't
undertaken
through
you
to
the
director.
We
haven't
undertaken
that
analysis
of
the
industrial
land
supply
issues
in
the
north,
so
we
don't
know
I
mean
I
have
to
take
it
on
face
value
based
on
council.
Hamel's
representations
that
you
know,
land
supply
for
industrial
use
is
dwindling.
E
E
B
Yep,
so
for
you,
mr
chair,
the
council
of
worster,
as
mentioned
in
a
couple
of
points
when
I
was
discussing
that
the
pressures
on
the
industrial
area,
this
block
has
been
identified
not
just
by
the
owner
but
by
others
as
being
a
a
logical
location
for
it
to
expand
into
possibly
until
that
actual
analysis,
work
is
done
and
then
further
work
was
done
to
identify.
If
that
was
an
absolute.
B
E
A
K
A
K
Three,
mr
chair,
in
my
opinion,
we
shouldn't
because
at
this
stage
it's
not
a
an
actual
statutory
document
or
anything
like
that,
so
I
don't
think
it
has
any
sort
of
relevance
to
go
on
a
decision
notice
or
as
a
as
a
note,
to
a
condition
of
approval.
My
recommendation
would
not
to
be
include
that
thanks.
A
The
hard
work
has
been
done
already
on
this
site.
To
put
it
in,
and
the
first
exercise
that
we're
doing
on
the
the
industrial
thing
is
to
work
out
what
the
boundary
of
that
area
might
be,
and
it
may
be
the
case
that
it's
easier
just
to
bump
that
out
by
a
block
rather
than
to
try
and
turn
this
one
in
and
then
put
the
sports
fields
further
out.
So
I'm
having
a
bit
of
difficulty.
B
A
E
Assuming
can
I
just
ask
one
last
question,
perhaps
through
you
to
the
director
counselor
hamill
remarked
that
there
are
potentially
other
sites
that
can
be
used
for
sports
and
wreck
in
the
area?
I
just
wonder
that
we
can
look
at
the
question
from
the
other
side
and
say:
is
there
significant,
developable
trench
of
land
that
could
be
used
for
industrial
purposes
beyond
the
sports
park?.
E
So,
mr
gemini,
I
think,
where
I'm
tending
to
land,
is
that
it's,
the
more
conservative
approach
is
to
try
and
secure
the
sports
and
rec
use
right
to
secure
that
and
then
allow
a
subsequent
body
of
work
to
identify
what
the
actual
needs
are
and
what
the
footprint
could
possibly
be
in
in
the
area,
and
it
might
be
that
there
is
sufficient
supply
outside
of
the
sudden.
We
can
actually
do
the
old,
el
paso
thing
and
have
both
right.
E
I
fear
that
if
we
unscramble
the
officer's
recommended
conditions
and
seed
to
the
developers,
aspirations
we'll
just
end
up
with
all
industrial,
where
the
study
might
support
industrial
and
this
developer
pushes
ahead
with
the
da
or
a
changed
application
to
develop
the
rest
of
the
site,
and
we
miss
the
opportunity.
So
in
order
to
preserve
options
where
I'm
tending
to
think,
we
need
to
support
the
officer
conditions
and
I
just
wonder
whether
that's
a
sensible
way
of
thinking
or
or
have.
I
got
it
wrong,
maybe
perhaps
through
to
the
director.
H
Through
mr
chair
council
of
austin,
look,
that
is
our
recommendation.
We're
from
our
point
of
view.
It
is
premature
at
the
moment
because
of
the
work
that
is
there
because
of
the
nature
of
the
location
of
where
this
sports
park
is
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
the
industrial
land
review.
We
will
have
to
look
at
that
anyway,
so
part
of
that
work
in
terms
of
looking
at
future
industrial
area,
we'll
also
have
to
look
at
positioning
of
future
sports
parks
as
well.
I
don't
have
the
answers,
because
we
haven't
done
that
work.
H
Through
mr
chair
council,
young,
that
was
the
one
that
was
brought
forward
at,
I
think,
was
either
our
last
council
or
council
before
it
was
also
the
one
where
there
was
a
resolution
for
us
to
approach
the
state
and
see
if
we
can
get
some
support
from
the
state
from
a
resourcing
or
financial
perspective,
and
then
also
timing
at
the
end
as
well.
So
I
think
we
would
do
by
the
end
of
the
year
for
a
report
to
come
back.
H
There
was
the
time
frames
that
were
compressed
from
may
next
year
up
until
december
this
year.
I
think
it
was.
We
have
been
having
discussions
with
the
state
and
it
is
looking
positive
as
well,
so
that
might
that
might
change
some
of
that
going
going
forward.
But
I
think
that
from
memory
I
think
the
next
stage
of
our
reporting
to
council
was
around
the
end
of
this
year.
A
A
No
second
r,
I
think
probably
the
best
opportunity
for
you
to
have
a
further
speak
on
the
matter
is
in
the
next
motion.
If
there
is
one
so
we'll
move
to
counselor
peter
young's
motion,
which
is,
I
assume,
though,
do
you
want
the
officer's
recommendation
seconded
by
councillor
vorster,
so
council
young?
Did
you
want
to
open
on
that
yeah.
F
Then
we
would
be
in
a
better
position
to
make
a
formative
decision
on
this.
But,
as
things
are,
we
know
that
there
has
been
the
goal
of
the
aspiration
of
securing
land
and,
in
particular,
this
site
for
future
recreational
needs
based
on
the
current
expectation
of
population
growth
which
themselves
might
change.
So
I'm
always
conscious
of
trying
to
secure
land.
F
So
I'm
supporting
the
officer's
recommendation
today.
Ideally,
the
application
wouldn't
be
before
us
and
we'd
until
we'd
have
the
other
study
com
completed,
and
that
would
give
us
much
greater
certainty.
But
I
think
the
the
fact
that
even
the
draft
deal
dip
to
identifies
the
site
as
being
desirable
in
the
full
knowledge
that
we've
acquired
other
properties
in
the
vicinity
of
the
north,
shall
we
say
is
enough
for
me
to
continue
to
seek
to
acquire
that
land
the
best
way
possible
and
that's
through
the
conditions
that
have
been
applied
for
this
particular
development.
Thanks.
B
Mr
chair
probably
don't
need
to
say
much
more
than
what
I've
already
outlined.
A
few
of
the
questions
and
comments
today
can
respect
the
fact
that
looks
like
counselors
have
got
a
different
view
on
it
and
can
respect
where
that
comes
from,
and
do
acknowledge
that
there
is
avenues
in
the
future
that
perhaps
the
desired
result
of
the
applicant,
but
also
me
at
this
stage
when
that
information
comes
up,
we'll
have
a
chance
for
that.
Just
with
caution.
B
Counselors
there
that
what's
been
used
is
because
it's
in
lg
we
should
take
it.
I
asked
for
an
analysis
to
be
done
on
the
back
of
this
development
application
on
this
site
and
that
wasn't
done
by
parks.
They
just
referred
back
to
elgip
and
when
I
continue
to
raise
the
fact
of
how
much
money
we've
spent
to
buy
other
lands
in
the
future
that
their
response
was,
the
master
planning
hasn't
been
done
yet.
So
we
can't
give
commentary
on
that.
I
think
in
the
fullness
of
time,
we'll
probably
end
up
with
the
result.
B
I
But
in
this
situation
I'm
going
to
have
to
support
the
officer's
recommendation
because
of
the
yes
identified
in
algebra
ii,
again
identified
in
lg
in
algebra
1
and
in
lg
2,
even
with
additional
purposes
it
still
purchases,
we're
still
identifying
it
in
algeb
2,
and
I
understand
that
council
hamel
has
a
great
knowledge
of
the
area
he's
been
born.
There
he's
been
raised.