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From YouTube: City of Gold Coast - Planning & Environment Committee Meeting (Part 2) - 20 April 2023
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00:00 Meeting Commences (Part 2), Report 6.6
09:00 Report 6.7
23:00 Report 6.8
51:00 Report 6.12
1:06:00 Report 6.14
1:11:00 Report 6.15
1:14:00 Closed Session - General Business 8.1
1:23:30 Open Session - General Business 8.1
C
Chairman
very
happy
with
the
great
work
that
City
officers
have
done
to
curate
a
better
outcome.
C
Here
we
did
have
an
on-site
meeting
and
it
was
plainly
evident
hopefully
to
the
city
officers,
who
were
there
that
we've
got
an
issue
with
some
irregular
and
unlawful
parking
on
the
Placid
Frontage,
and
it's
a
bit
of
a
concern
because
silverbank
Drive
is
a
notorious
spot
for
hooning
people
driving
at
high
speed
people
turning
effectively
Lane
cutting
turning
left
at
speed
into
Placid
court
and
there's
a
concern
amongst
the
community
that,
with
this
extra
Frontage
and
the
on-street
car
parking
that
it
might
require,
generate
we're
going
to
end
up
with
massive
safety
issues
at
the
intersection.
C
So
what
I'm,
seeking
today
and
I'm
happy
to
move
for
the
approval
is
that
a
yellow
line
be
painted
and
maintained
at
the
intersection
of
silverbank
and
Placid
Court
to
reinforce
the
parking
restrictions
in
the
Queensland
Road
Rules,
so
I'm,
not
not
seeking
to
reduce
the
availability
of
on-street
car
parking,
but
I
really
want
that
yellow
line
to
make
sure
that
we
deal
with
the
irregular
unlawful
car
parking.
That
may
cause
safety
issues.
C
Blah
blah
blah
well
I'm
happy
for
third
proposed
condition
to
basically
foreshare
that
Council
will
paint
a
yellow
line
to
reinforce
those
Road
Rules
at
the
bench
so
that
the
burden
doesn't
fall
to
the
the
developer
or
the
proponent.
Yeah
I
think
we
should
be
working
on
the
road,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
done,
because
otherwise
we're
going
to
end
up
with
all
sorts
of
avoidable
issues
and
car
parking
complaints.
E
Bear
with
me,
so
it's
really
going
to
be
from
that
drain
around
the
corner.
Isn't
it
a
yellow,
no
standing
line
to
reflect
the
existing
ability
of
people
not
to
park
at
the
radius?
Yes,
so
well.
So,
for
example,
where
that
car
is
parked
you're,
imagining
there'll
be
the
ability
to
park
lawfully
there
yeah.
A
C
D
D
A
G
Oh
three
Mr
chair,
I,
guess
just
hearing
this
for
the
the
conversation
Council
corbel
is
correct.
A
condition
should
actually
be
final
in
that
an
applicant
is
it's
entirely
within
their
ability
to
do
that.
So
if
we
put
a
condition
on
the
applicant,
that
Council
does
something
we
could
get
in
this
infinite
Loop
of
something
while.
A
Opening
yeah
because
the
traffic
officers
will
say
no,
so
why
don't
we
do
this?
Why
don't
we
just
condition
it
that
the
applicant
do
the
yellow
line?
Okay
and
then
perhaps
between
noun
for
Council
Chris?
If
you
can
get
someone
to
look
at
what
that
might
look
like,
so
that
we
can
actually
pictorially
describe
it?
Okay,.
F
G
H
Chad
I
just
I'm
only
interested
if
it
wasn't
supported
by
traffic
in
the
first
place,
and
we
might
put
that
condition
in
the
end
the
applicant
does
it
is
traffic
likely
to
go,
remove
it
at
some
stage
later
on,
because
they
don't
support
it
or
they've.
Well,
they
redo
the
yellow
line
in
the
future.
Like
did.
C
A
Happens
what
happens
is
that
the
position
that's
taken
by
traffic
and
transport
is
that
people
should
be
aware
of
the
Road
Rules,
which
means
that
they
should
be
aware
that
they
can't
park
within
10
meters
of
the
Apex
at
the
corner
and,
unfortunately,
all
you're
trying
to
do
is
reinforce
that
message
and
I.
Don't
know
why
the
position
is
that
we
don't
want
to
try
and
help
motorists
do
the
right
thing
so.
H
F
C
F
C
C
D
J
C
A
C
Mr
chairman,
we
received
a
couple
of
submissions
from
members
of
the
community
city
offices,
gave
those
submitters
an
opportunity
to
have
their
concerns
addressed
through
a
negotiated
process
with
the
applicant
I.
Think
we've
landed
in
a
good
place,
a
very
good
place,
in
fact,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
city
officers
for
organizing
a
site
visit,
because
it
actually
gave
me
an
opportunity
to
demonstrate
some
of
the
vehicular
and
traffic
issues
that
stoked
my
interest
in
this
yellow
line.
So
that's
all.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Second,
by
Council,
Peter
Young,
already
right,
we'll
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried
a
good
good,
enthusiastic
arm
there,
Council,
McDonald
and
waving
back
to
you
cheers
6.07.
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman.
This
is
a
major
major
development
application
for
the
future
of.
C
Thanks
Madam
chairman,
this
is
a
significant
development
application
for
Robina.
It
proposes
to
deliver
a
housing
stock,
very
close
to
Robina
town
center
and
additional
commercial
GFA.
For
those
of
you
who
are
not
familiar
with
the
site,
it
sits
atop,
a
very
well.
The
site
is
a
very
steep
embankment
and
it
sits
between
a
townhouse
development,
East
Lake
and
what
is
presently
a
qic
owned
water
body
which
is
about
as
feral
a
water
body,
as
you
could
imagine,
it's
really
grotty
in
that
total
awful
stuff.
C
It's
a
very
challenging
site
to
develop
a
scheme
for
and
get
cursive
presented
us
today,
a
a
plan
of
development
against
which
future
final
development
applications
can
be
lodged
to
try
and
deliver
some
of
that
housing
and
some
of
that
commercial
product.
Now
Mr,
chairman
QRC,
didn't
get
everything
that
they
asked
for
when
they
came
knocking
on
council's
door
and
City
officers
have
done
a
very
good
job.
C
At
learning
from
many
of
the
Robina
decisions
that
this
Council
and
the
former
Council
were
faced
with
so,
for
example,
Mr
chairman,
you
may
recall
that
Cascade
development
in
Robina
the
214
story,
Towers,
where
Council
had
to
Grapple
with
effectively
a
site
layout
diagram
that
didn't
have
the
full
weight.
It
should
have
that
indicative
Lao
plan
could
be
disregarded.
C
In
this
case,
Mr
chairman
City
officers
have
strengthened
the
language
around
that
plan
of
development
to
ensure
that
we
end
up
with
buildings
scattered
across
the
site,
but
importantly
providing
a
transition
from
the
townhouse
development
to
Greater
Heights
by
the
Town
Center
Mr
chairman.
You
might
cast
your
mind
back
to
that.
C
What
I
consider
debacle
of
the
Supercenter
Link
at
Robina,
where
the
applicant
was
able
to
use
the
provisions
of
the
ACT
to
provide
their
staff
car
parking
at
Robina,
Town
Center,
that
was
a
concern
of
mine
I,
did
not
want
to
repeat
that
with
this
particular
site,
I
didn't
want
qic
to
be
able
to
dump
their
car
parking
problems
at
Robina.
Town
Center
City
officers
have
strengthened
the
language
in
this
plan
of
development
to
ensure
that
all
car
parking
needs
for
the
site
are
accommodated
on
the
site.
C
Mr
chairman
that
Lot
25
is
presently
owned
and
managed
by
qic.
It
forms
an
important
part
of
our
stormwater
treatment
system
and,
if
you
can
imagine
that
whole
catchment
flowing
into
Lot
25
entering
Lake,
Lido
and
then
mudra
bark
Creek
before
eventually
heading
into
our
Waterway,
if
the
water
quality
of
Lot
25
is
not
up
to
scratch,
we
end
up
with
an
awful
new
trend.
Load,
Downstream,
I,
don't
believe.
Lot
25
is
performing
well
at
all.
C
As
I
said,
it's
quite
feral
in
there
and
what
city
offices
have
done
in
structuring
this
recommendation
for
approval
is
to
attach
a
condition
that
that
Lot
25
has
to
be
brought
up
to
standard
council's
standards
before
we
will
entertain
an
asset
transfer.
Importantly,
Mr
chairman
they've
also
required
that
safe
vehicular
access
be
provided
into
that
Waterway
for
the
collection
of
selvinia,
because
the
last
thing
that
we
want
is
to
have
a
built
form
and
a
internal
Road
configuration
that
doesn't
allow
heavy
harvesting
equipment
to
actually
get
to
the
water's
edge
to
extract
biomass.
C
So
city
offices
have
worked
extremely
well
to
get
a
good
height
outcome
with
the
transition
that
takes
the
site
from
high
rise
to
medium
rise
and
I
want
to
thank
them
for
that.
City
officers
have
worked
extremely
well
to
deal
with
a
car
parking
issue
by
making
sure
that
car
parking
needs
are
contained
on
site.
City
offices
have
also
worked
very
hard
on
setbacks
to
ensure
that
from
Robina
Town
Center
Drive,
we
have
a
development
that
presents
almost
in
accordance
with
the
East
Lake
development
at
three
Robina
Town
Center,
Drive
and
Mr
chairman
I.
C
Think
most
significantly
for
me,
City
officers
have
put
some
language
in
there
to
deal
with
a
future
intersection
upgrade
at
the
just
below
the
water
body.
On
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen,
you
will
see
the
rooftop
of
Robina
Town
Center.
It's
a
car
park
below
that
is
Collier
Keys,
that's
a
it's
a
road,
it's
a
private
road,
so
Collier
Keys
is
owned
by
qic
and
it
meets
our
Council
Road
Robina
Town,
Center
Drive,
but
Mr
chairman.
C
What
is
actually
impossible
for
pedestrians
in
Robina
to
do
and
future
residents
of
lot
898
to
do
is
actually
walk
down.
Robina
Town
Center
Drive
cross
safely
over
Collier
keys
to
a
pedestrian
ramp,
which
will
take
you
into
Robina
Town
Center.
That's
presently
impossible!
In
fact,
if
you
live
at
existing
East
Lake
development
or
East
Lake
B,
which
is
the
proposed
development
in
order
to
get
to
say
Woolworths,
you
have
to
walk
along
that
water
body,
Edge,
Lot
25
and
you
have
to
keep
going
and
keep
going
and
keep
going.
C
In
fact,
you
have
to
walk
nearly
off
the
screen
before
you
can
get
to
an
unsignalized
pedestrian
Refuge
sitting
across
four
lanes
of
traffic
before
you
can
cross
the
road
which
lands
within
about
five
meters
of
another
intersection,
a
very
unsafe
situation
so
by
including
language
that
requires
qic
at
a
later
stage.
That's
the
FDA
stage
to
address
that
safe
pedestrian
access
piece.
I
hope
we
can
prompt
qic
to
do
the
morally
correct
thing,
which
is
to
deliver
an
intersection
upgrade
on
their
Road
at
Robina,
Town,
Center
Drive.
C
Everybody
complains
about
development.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
will
have
their
hackles
to
see
this
development
proceed,
but
on
balance
we
really
should
be
supporting
development
close
to
Services
close
to
where
jobs
are
close
to
where
public
transport
are
close
to
where
services
are.
This
is
a
central
area.
It
should
get
a
higher
level
of
development
than
low
set
housing,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
development
prompts
an
investment
in
infrastructure
and
I
hope.
C
C
C
I
I've
met
officers
on
the
site
for
the
last
I
think
eight
months
I've
been
Prosecuting
the
case
for
better
pedestrian
connectivity.
It's
that
footpath
isn't
what's
needed.
What
we
actually
need
is
a
signalized
pedestrian
Crossing
at
the
intersection
itself,
because
the
shortest
path
to
where
people
need
to
go
is
north
south
through
that
intersection,
which
takes
them
into
an
internal
pedestrian
path
through
the
car
park
to
the
lifts
to
the
to
the
supermarket,
so
what's
happening
at
the
moment.
So
it's
a
bit
difficult
for
me
but
Mr
chairman.
I
I
B
C
H
C
B
C
We
could
add
a
footpath
Now
call
your
kids,
but
that's
not
the
direction.
People
want
to
walk.
They
want
to
walk
from
the
top
here
across
this
intersection
to
get
into
the
car
park.
It's
the
correct,
it's
the
shortest
path
to
where
they
wanted
to
go,
it's
always
to
the
supermarket
first.
So
what
the
POV
attempts
to
do
is
to
require
when
a
FDA
is
launched
in
the
future
for
qic
to
present
a
safe
pedestrian
thoroughfare.
F
F
On
the
western
side
of
the
road
they're
around
the
corner
of
their
site,
but
where
are
the
pedestrians
coming
from
that
have
degraded
that
little
bit
of
land?
You
pointed
out
from
the
from
that
side
of
the
road
or
from
the
Eastern
side
of
the
road.
So.
C
C
F
C
Mr
chairman
I'm
still
happy
to
move
it
as
is,
but
perhaps
between
now
and
full
Council.
If
we
could
get
a
even
though
City
officers
might
not
agree
for
the
moment,
maybe
we
can
have
regard
to
strengthening
the
words
of
around
that
condition
so
that
they
have
to
deliver
that
footpath
and
signalize
Crossing.
Otherwise,.
A
Council
on
Jones
all
by
yourself,
yep,
okay,
all
right
have
we
got
a
motion
yet
I
counselor
I've
also
happy
to
move
it
I
think
you
said:
did
we
have
a
second
cancel?
It
Pauline
yeah,
all
right,
you
spoke
for
it.
Anyone
else
want
to
speak
for
or
against
happy
with
that
being
closed,
Council
Worcester.
C
Only
to
say
that
between
now
and
full
Council
I'd
like
to
work
with
the
deputy
Man
City
officers
to
see
whether
we
can
have
more
specific
language
around
our
preferred
outcome
at
that
intersection.
Thanks.
A
All
right,
Roger,
who's,
yeah.
A
K
K
The
changes
according
to
the
state
of
Queensland
are
these
amendments
further
contribute
to
addressing
the
current
housing,
affordability
and
Supply
challenges
that
communities
are
facing
across
Queensland.
That's
the
nature
of
why
the
changes
have
come
in
the
the
changes
them
themselves
are
actually
quite
limited
to
detached
Wellings
and
I'll.
Try
and
keep
this
presentation
as
short
as
possible.
K
The
big
changes
are
that
the
planning
regulations
have
prohibited
councils
from
making
detached
Wellings
accessible
development
under
our
planning
scheme.
So
what
that
means
applications
for
detached
dwellings
in
the
in
the
low
density
residential
zone
now
will
be
handled
as
building
Works,
meaning
they'll
all
be
handled
through
referral
agency
advice.
Most
of
you
will
be
aware
of
the
referral
agency
advice
process
already
for
setbacks
for
dwellings.
This
will
Now
cover
height.
K
So
when
dwellings
are
over
nine
meters
in
height,
they
will
not
be
subject
to
a
material
change
of
use
application.
They
will
not
be
subject
to
public
notification
and
the
community
won't
have
the
opportunity
of
making
a
submission
against
them.
They
will
be
handled
by
referral
agency
advice
just
to
allay
some
of
your
concerns.
K
The
regulation
also
allows
well
it
doesn't
allow
it
actually,
as
adopted
the
planning
scheme
benchmarks
as
an
assessment
mechanism
for
Council
officers,
to
assess
these
applications.
So
what
that
means
is
Council
officers
have
exactly
the
same
assessment
benchmarks
to
assess
dwelling
applications
over
over
height.
So
really
the
only
difference
is
we've
denied
an
an
opportunity
for
somebody
to
make
a
submission
on
it.
I
know
you
have
concerns,
however,
it
is
part
of
the
regulation.
Don't
shoot
the
messenger?
K
Another
change
is
rooming
accommodation.
Already
under
the
regulations,
there
was
a
rooming
accommodation
provision
that
up
to
four
rooms
in
a
rooming
accommodation
was
was
basically
prohibited
from
making
that
accessible
state
government
have
increased
that,
so
you
can
actually
now
get
five
rooms.
Five
persons
can
be
part
of
the
rooming
accommodation
proposal,
and
that
is
also
prohibited
from
being
accessible
development
under
our
city
plan.
K
L
Thank
you
Roger.
So
through
you,
Mr
chair,
I've,
prepared
some
examples.
Hopefully
that
will
shed
some
light.
So
here's
here's
an
example
for
a
dwelling
house
again
located
in
the
low
density
residential
Zone,
but
in
this
instance
the
heart
is
for
the
house
is
two
stories
and
9.5
meters.
So
ordinarily,
that
would
trigger
an
impact,
accessible
material
change
of
use
application
so
and
that
would
that
would
have
been
triggered
through
the
dwelling
house
overlay
under
our
city
plan.
It
would
have
required
notification
and
30
third
party
appeal
rights
would
have
been
applicable.
L
So
after
the
two
December,
if
we
received
an
upper
well
a
development
of
this
kind,
we
would
receive
it
through
our
the
referral
agency
assessment
process,
because
the
dwelling
house
overlay
no
longer
has
effect
according
to
the
rules
of
the
planning
regulation.
L
As
Roger
said,
the
matters
which
we
would
assess
the
the
dwelling
house
against
are
exactly
the
same
matters
which
we
would
have
assessed
the
material
change
of
use
application
against.
So
that
includes
even
the
Strategic
framework
Provisions,
but
it's
just
assessed
through
a
different
application
process.
L
K
C
So
something's
impact
accessible
as
right.
We
work
on
a
particular
timeline,
so
it's
all
fair
and
well
that
City
officers
might
be
able
to
direct
a
certifier
to
say
no.
L
C
Mr,
chairman
I,
this
is
like
the
worst
of
what
happens
in
Robina
compressed
fourfold,
because
I
mean
you
guys
do
a
phenomenal
job
through
Mr
chairman
of
city
offices.
You
guys
did
a
great
job
at
dealing
with
the
volume
of
development
applications
we
receive,
but
you
I
I,
don't
think
that
you
are
properly
resourced
to
be
able
to
deal
with
turning
around
these
referrals
within
20
days
and
I.
Just
worry
that
things
will
slip
through
the
cracks,
not
nothing
to
do
with
you,
but
from
a
pure
resourcing
point
of
view.
C
L
Today,
Mr
chair
the
decision-making
period
for
the
building
Works
referral
is
10
business
days.
All
right,
however,
to
put
your
mind
at
ease,
the
this
process
is
not
subject
to
the
same.
You
know
deemed
approval
Provisions,
it's
a
it's
a
Dame
profusal.
If
we
don't
make
the
decision
in
time
or
it's
taken
to
be
a
direction
to
the
certifier
that
we
don't
approve
the
referral
agency
application.
C
And
what
would
happen
to
the
Express
da
process?
Does
that
have
to
change.
K
You've
got
to
be
careful
of
language
Council
of
vorster,
so
I'm
just
reading.
It
would
like
to
talk
about
very
briefly
what
a
relevant
overlay
is
in
the
context
of
the
planning
regulation,
but
the
the
dwelling
house
overlay
is
is
actually
still
applicable
for
the
assessment
of
these
applications
right
and.
C
K
L
Yeah,
so
this
is
a
this
is
a
list
of
what
are
and
are
not
relevant
overlays.
So
the
effect
of
the
relevant
overlays
inclusion
into
the
planning
regulation
means
that
the
the
overlays
which
are
listed
as
relevant
overlays
on
your
screen,
can
still
trigger
a
dwelling
house
or
a
roaming
accommodation
development
to
a
material
change
of
use
application
and
that
so
that
part
of
our
planning
scheme
will
operate
unaffected.
C
K
A
true
Mr
chair,
usually
dwellings
on
a
site,
the
the
credit
for
infrastructure
charges
has
already
been
been
locked,
but
I
saw.
This
applies
to
secondary
dwellings
as
well.
Through
you,
Mr
chair,
that'll,
be
a
conversation
for
another
day
in
relation
to
state
government.
They
have
confirmed
that
secondary
dwellings.
K
C
So
my
recollection
is
that
we
resolved
not
to
Levy
infrastructure
charges
on
secondary
dwellings
until
the
end
of
this
term
that
that's
my
understanding
from
next
term.
However,
there
will
need
to
be
a
decision
on
whether
we
Levy
charges
for
secondary
dwellings
and,
if
we
so
choose.
How
is
it
that?
How
will
we
be
able
to
capture
the
infrastructure
charges
that
we
we
might
want
to
collect
if
there's
a
proliferation
of
secondary
dwellings.
K
Yes,
through
you
Mr
chair,
that's
a
very
good
question,
so
subject
to
a
later
conversation
and
resolution
by
Council.
If
the
council
chooses
to
adopt
infrastructure
charges
for
secondary
dwellings,
I
agree
that
usually
the
trigger
would
be
the
material
change
of
use,
whether
to
add
the
the
ICN
we
do
have.
The
ability,
through
a
building
approval
issued
by
the
private
set
of
fire,
is
still
a
mechanism
that
the
council
can
use.
So
we
wouldn't
attach
it
to
that
decision,
but
the
Milestone
of
knowing
when
that
building
approval
is
approved,
where
we
actually
receive
a
copy.
K
C
Think
that's
really
important
to
capture
as
a
it's
called
an
unintended
consequence
of
all
of
this
to
make
sure
that
we
are
have
a
process
to
recoup
those
infrastructure
fees
that
we
might
choose
to
Levy
in
the
future.
At
the
moment,
it's
a
non-issue,
but
this
slim
down
process
risks
us
collecting
Revenue.
That
might
be
due
to
us.
L
Unless
you
want
more
examples
or
so
I'll
give
you
a
couple
of
examples
about
roomy
accommodation,
so
this
is
the
circumstance,
so
the
proposals
for
a
grooming
accommodation
again
it's
in
the
low
density,
residential
Zone.
It
has
a
compliant
height
of
two
stories
and
nine
meters.
There's
four
students
and
two
car
parking
spaces.
So
under
that.
So
under
that
scenario,
that
particular
rooming
accommodation
at
presently
would
not
require
material
change
of
use
application
because
it
would
meet
our
accept
the
development
requirements
in
the
planning
scheme.
L
So
that's
just
a
I
guess
a
prefer
preface
for
the
next
one,
which
is
say,
for
instance,
that
same
developer
tries
to
include
another
bedroom
but
maintain
two
parking
spaces.
So
under
our
planning
scheme
at
the
moment,
that
would
be
an
impact,
accessible
development
application
because
there's
more
than
four
unrelated
persons
in
that
rooming
accommodation
use
after
two
December
The
Zone
table
of
assessment
in
for
roomy
accommodation.
L
For
that
many
persons
in
that
building
would
no
longer
be
applicable
because
the
scale
of
the
use
does
not
include
more
than
five
people.
So,
as
Roger
said
before,
up
to
five
people
no
longer
requires
a
material
change
of
use,
so
it
can't
trigger
an
MCU
but
because
of
the
shortfall
in
car
parking
spaces.
So
our
planning
scheme
would
require
three.
They
would
be
required
to
come
in
for
a
building
referral
and
we
would
assess
that
scenario
at
that
point.
So.
C
Fire
out,
okay,
I,
just
think,
that's
really
important
to
be
like
they're
boarding
houses,
so
somebody
has
a
five
bedroom
home.
They
could
now
say
they
have
a
six
bedroom
home.
Maybe
that's
more
to
the
point,
so
six
bedroom
home,
they
reside
in
the
master
bedroom
and
there
are
five
other
bedrooms.
C
There
are
six
people
who
are
unrelated,
yeah,
okay,
what?
If
that,
what
if
it
was
a
five
bedroom
home-
and
there
is
a
couple,
a
couple
in
a
master
bedroom.
So
it's
two
and
there
are
four
other
bedrooms
and
they
have
four
four
people
who
are
unrelated
in
each
of
the
four
other
bedrooms.
What
happens
then?.
C
C
K
Territory
yeah
so
true,
you
missed
Mr
chair.
This
is
getting
there's
so
many
scenarios
and
what
we
have
concerns
with
is
that
you
can
have
a
large
large
family.
You
can
have
10
children
and
that's
that's
a
dwelling.
We're
not
going
to
pen
look
of
course
somebody
from
operating.
We
love
family
under
that,
but
it
does
get
very,
very
challenging.
When
we
get
multiple
people
using
one
a
bedroom,
it
gets
very
challenging.
A
E
I've
got
a
recent
experience
with
an
ndis,
a
house
that
was
built
which
had
and
I
know
that
it's
six,
but
it
would
I
think
it
had
five
five
people
plus
a
caretaker,
but
if
it
was
four
people
plus
a
caretaker,
it
nationally
goes
through
in
a
low
density
area,
with
their
heart
need
for
impact
assessment,
correct
and
that
so
I
think
it's
it's
not
only
the
rooming
accommodation
about
what
we
may
think.
Traditional
roaming
accommodation
is
for
students
or
the
like,
but
it
may
also
be
other
uses
like
that.
L
Just
to
provide
you
with
some
updates
on
what
we're
currently
doing
so
we're
updating
our
internal
processes.
As
Rogers
mentioned,
the
referral
agency
assessment
process
we
have
is
existing,
so
we're
just
accepting
these
type
of
new
development
or
these
applications
through
the
referral
agency
assessment
process.
Now
we're
updating
our
documentation
and
reporting
to
cover
these
new
application
types
we'll
provide
some
updates
on
council's
website
to
explain
it.
L
F
So
I'm
presuming
if
someone
has
a
five-bedroom
home
and
they
have
four
students
living
in
the
home,
which
they
don't
need
to
apply
for
anything
if
it's
not
accessible.
Why
and
a
home
is
already
constructed.
What
what
what's
the
process
then.
L
K
B
Unfortunately,
I'm
going
to
add
a
little
bit
more
complexity
to
this
sorry,
so
as
well
as
the
provisions
that
Liam
and
Roger
have
been
talking
about
which
relate
to
the
planning
changes.
We've
always
got
the
building
law
that
sits
underneath
that
and
that
hasn't
changed,
and
that
has
a
different
number.
Unfortunately,
so
the
sample
that
you're
talking
about
are
still
going
to
be
captured
by
building
requirements
to
change
the
classification
of
the
building
from
a
class
1a
to
a
1B.
F
A
All
right,
so
council
is
the
the
recommendations
on
page
1158
which,
as
you've
gathered
from
the
presentation.
This
is
a
matter
which
has
been
to
borrow
a
phrase
foisted
Upon
Us
by
the
state
government,
and
so
really
we
are
we're
simply
noting
the
presentation
and
ultimately,
what
the
council
officers
are
going
to
do
so
I'm
happy
to
move
it.
A
C
Something
back
so
the
recommendation
is
that
we
note
it
and
that
city
offices
prefer
prepare
a
planning
and
development
alert.
An
Associated
practice
note,
but
I'd
like
to
get
something
back
in
terms
of
any
risks
or
issues
that
we're
identify.
In
our
conversations
with
city
offices,
it
can
run
concurrently
but
I'd
like
to
get
on
a
record
what
our
concerns
are
as
a
city
about
what
could
unfold.
C
I
think
that
would
be
useful
because
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
for
us
if
there
are
consequences
in
Suburban
streets
to
point
residents
to
that
presentation
which
is
informative.
But
it
doesn't
do
a
really
good
job
at
explaining
what
some
of
the
amenity
and
outcomes
and
constraints
might
be
on
Council.
A
So
move
by
May
signal
by
Council
guides,
so
I
was
just
going
to
say
in
moving
it
that
obviously
this
is
not
a
matter
where
we
have
had
the
benefit
of
being
able
to
give
any
feedback
to
the
state
government
prior
to
its
implementation.
There
was
no
pilot
program.
This
is
a
very
Swift
action
and
we
probably
don't
even
know
as
yet
what
the
unintended
consequences
may
be
to
some
of
our
low
density
residential
areas
as
a
result
of
this
change,
so
I
think
councilor
vorster.
A
C
But
Jim,
like
my
concern,
is
whenever
we,
whenever
we
attempt
to
unscramble
private
property
rights,
we
get
into
a
conversation
about
pain,
compensation
and
needing
to
deal
with,
like
you
know,
superseded
applications
to
address
that
mess.
While
it
would
be
useful
to
have
some
lived
experience,
I
think
it'd
be
really
useful.
Early
on
at
least
sign
posting
some
of
our
concerns.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
War
and
Peace,
but
I
think
out
of
this
conversation
and
out
of
conversations
that
counselors
have
had
with
city
offices.
Just
have
few
dot
points
on
record.
A
A
I
was
thinking
we
should
just.
Perhaps
there
was
a
suggestion
from
someone
councilor
O'neill
to
hold
over
some
matters
to
full
Council
I
think
that's,
probably
a
reasonable
amount
that
we
could
impose
on
the
full
Council
proceedings,
but
I'm
open
to
thoughts
councilor
young.
Do
you
want
to
perhaps
deal
with
your
general
business
item
yeah
that.
E
B
D
A
Don't
we
just
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
move
the
or
if
someone
wants
to
move
the
recommendation,
why
don't
we
then
pull
it
out
at
full
Council,
perhaps
I'm,
just
conscious
that
we
could
be
here
for
another
hour
if
we
delve
into
all
of
these
matters
and
I,
don't
think
it's
what's
wrong
with
that?
Okay,
is
there
a
problem
with
that
yeah?
Well,
there's
water!
You
know
water
and
water
and
waste
are
currently
adjourned.
Yeah.
M
All
right
good
afternoon.
M
Afternoon,
councilors
through
the
chair,
so
today
I'm
going
to
present
to
you
on
an
update
to
the
southeast
Queensland
Regional
plan
or
shaping
a
secure
review.
So
I'll
present
to
you
today
our
proposed
key
Focus
areas
that
we're
seeking
your
endorsement
of
to
progress.
Our
discussions
with
the
state
government
in
the
lead
up
to
a
formal
submission
process.
M
M
So
what
are
the
key
Focus
areas?
So
the
First
theme
is
grow
or
planning
for
population
growth,
so
the
key
Focus
area
under
this
theme
includes
no
significant
changes
to
the
urban
footprint
for
housing.
So
our
position
is
the
city's
Urban
footprint
is
sufficient
to
cater
for
existing
and
future
populations,
while
also
protecting
the
environment
and
any
exposure
to
Natural
hazards.
M
So
limited
adjustments
of
the
urban
footprint
are,
however,
considered,
but
significant
change
isn't
considered
necessary
under
this
review.
This
will
help
minimize
infrastructure
costs
and
will
also
help
to
drive
consolidation
into
our
existing
areas.
M
We
are
requesting
that
the
state
update
the
dwelling
Supply
benchmarks
in
consultation
with
the
city,
to
reflect
any
changes
that
have
occurred
between
2017
when
the
plan
came
in
and
what
is
the
current
situation
and
we
are
seeking
State
support
to
promote
consolidation
and
unlock
our
urban
renewal
areas.
So
this
include
retaining
the
80
20
consolidation
versus
expansion,
split
in
the
plan,
assistance
and
funding
for
the
key
enabling
infrastructure
to
allow
the
consolidation
to
occur
and
policy
intervention
by
the
state
to
help
encourage
diversity
of
housing,
including
potentially
consideration
of
targets.
M
M
The
next
theme
is
Prosper
or
planning
for
economic
growth,
so
we're
seeking
a
review
of
the
regional
economic
clusters
and
Regional
activity
centers
to
accurately
accurately
reflect
the
evolution
of
these
areas
that
has
occurred
over
the
last
few
years
and
to
maximize
and
enhance
their
growth
and
benefits.
We
are
seeking
increased
State
leadership
on
implementation
within
these
areas,
including
consideration
of
the
disparity
of
between
where
the
jobs
are
located
and
where
the
people
live,
and
also
the
state
support
of
investment
in
key
enabling
infrastructure.
M
In
these
employment
areas,
we
are
seeking
the
state
to
consult
the
city
on
the
future
of
the
yatler
Stapleton
industrial
area
and
its
potential
to
contribute
additional
land
Supply
from
an
economic
perspective,
both
in
the
short
and
long
term.
So
this
includes
commitment
from
the
state
on
the
key
enabling
infrastructure
in
this
area,
but
particularly
the
kumara
connector,
which
impacts
this
area,
and
we
are
seeking
the
support
for
the
circular
economy
approach
within
Regional
plan
to
embed
that
into
the
regional
plan
to
support
a
sustainable
region.
M
M
So
there
is
a
number
of
projects
that
we
are
seeking
to
be
referenced
or
included
in
the
regional
plan,
some
of
which
are
already
there,
but
it
is
improved.
East-West
public
transport
corridors
and
Road
networks,
accelerated
Light
Rail
connectivity,
connecting
heavy
rail
to
the
Gold
Coast
Airport,
acceleration
of
green
heart,
the
provision
of
Water
waste
and
energy
facilities
and
the
provision
of
regionally
significant
cultural
infrastructure.
M
The
final
theme
we
have
is
sustain
planning
for
the
environment,
climate
change
and
natural
Hazard
resilience.
So,
while
consolidation
is
key
to
protecting
our
environmental
values,
it's
also
essential
that
shaping
seq
strengthens
the
identification
and
protection
of
our
City's
priority
environment,
landscape
matters
of
environmental
significance
and
all
the
species
that
use
them.
M
So
it
is
recommended
that
this
will
be
achieved
through
including
benchmarks
within
the
regional
plan.
For
these
environmental
values,
it
is
also
recommended
for
better
recognition
of
the
Gold
Coast
critical
corridors
in
the
regional
plan.
We
are
seeking
the
state
develop
a
regional
biodiversity
strategy
to
assist.
We
are
seeking
the
state
provider.
Leadership
on
climate
change,
so
shaping
ecqs
should
outline
how
the
region
will
plan
for
the
impacts
of
climate
change,
and
that
includes
natural
Hazard
exposure
of
agricultural
land
and
property
that
is
likely
to
occur
within
the
planning.
Horizon
of
the
regional
plan.
D
Thanks
chairman
thanks
Samantha
there's
a
great
rundown,
the
motion,
or
the
proposed
resolution
is
that
we
write
to
the
rights
to
the
deputy
Premier.
What
level
of
detail
will
be
provided
to
the
deputy
premier.
D
C
Could
I
just
get
a
sense
of
what
planning,
interventions
or
planning
changes
or
planning
scheme
tweaks?
We
might
see,
as
a
consequence
of
this,
supporting
a
move
to
Net,
Zero
and
I
just
want
to
preface
this
by
saying:
I'm,
not
a
climate
science
denialist,
but
I
just
want
to
understand
how
a
move
to
Net
Zero
will
flow
through
in
a
planning
sense
to
the
way
our
city
is
structured.
N
They
share
a
lot
of
that.
Information
is
already
regulated
through,
like
the
building
code
of
Australia,
where
it
regulates
things
like
solar
orientation
and
access
to
other
means
of
electricity,
all
that
sort
of
stuff,
but
the
secular
economy
also
supports
reuse
of
building
materials
at
a
localized
level
in
terms
of
how
it
actually
needs
to
be
embedded
in
a
planning
scheme.
That
is
work
that
still
has
to
occur.
So
we
can't
provide
a
definitive
answer
right.
C
So
I'm
and
I
appreciate
this
is
early
on
in
the
process.
Maybe
it
isn't
I
don't
know,
but
these
are
pretty
big
policy
commitments
that
we
are
making
to
the
state
government
around
our
priorities
without
at
least
from
my
perspective,
knowing
what
some
of
the
consequences
might
be,
what
some
of
the
trade-offs
might
be
in
pursuing
this
policy
agenda?
So
if,
apart
from
solar
orientation,
there
isn't
much
to
do
with
Net
Zero
on
the
issue
of
circular
economy,
what
might
we
see
change
in
the
layout
of
our
city
to
support
a
circular
economy.
N
I'll,
throw
the
chair,
we're
doing,
which
is
being
at
the
Stapleton,
is
looking
at
those
those
almost
supply
chain
issues
so
having
more
localized
Supply
opportunities
where
a
company
may
do
one
thing
with
a
product
and
another
company,
then
does
another
value
add
to
that
product,
and
it
becomes
this
circular
con,
which
is
essentially
the
what
a
circular
economy
is
about,
is
all
those
moving
Parts
in
a
more
localized
setting
than
add
value
right.
C
So
I
mean
if
we
had
a
solar
panel
recycling
facility
here
on
the
Gold
Coast,
for
example,
which
I'd
support
I
think
would
be
great.
I
wouldn't
expect
someone
to
set
one
up
in
Logan
and
I
wouldn't
expect
someone
to
go
set
one
up
in
Brisbane
or
Morton
right,
tweet,
maybe
they'd
do
it
anyway.
They've
got
daylight
savings
more
sun.
C
Would?
How
does
our
our
work
here
impact
on
a
whole
of
seq
approach
like,
for
example,
if
Logan's
pursuing
something
that
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
pursue
because
they're
pursuing
it?
Are
we
going
to
have
regard
to
that
where's,
this
I'm
sorry
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
Are
We
providing
feedback
into
the
Southeast
Queensland
plan
so
which
the
state
will
then
use
to
make
some
decisions
on
behalf
of
all
local
governments
in
southeast
Queensland?
Is
that
right
that.
N
Is
correct?
That's
what
we're
seeking
through
this
review
process
is
that
there's
more
localized
content
specific
for
the
Gold
Coast
as
strategic
planners.
We
understand
that
we
don't
need
to
plan
for
the
same
opportunities
in
every
LGA
and
once
those
new
opportunities
are
identified,
it
should
be
that
they
take
precedence
and
we
advance
them
rather
other
than
places
like
Logan
or
senegrim.
Those
looking
to
do
the
same
thing,
so
we
can't
prevent
that
from
happening.
C
That
one
so
bullet
point
one
totally
agree
with
regional
biodiversity,
totally
agree
with
response
of
threat
of
climate
change
on
land
use
and
I
prefer
resilience.
But
anyway
there
you
go,
but
integration
of
climate
change
resilience
and
Net
Zero.
Why
is
a
local
government?
Are
we
pushing
the
Net
Zero
thing
and
I'm?
Not
a
denialist
I
just
want
to
understand
from
a
Gold
Coast
perspective.
A
So
this
is
their
target
right,
so
I
think
it's
probably
if
you
look
at
a
different
way.
It's
like
okay,
tell
us
what
what
the
implications
are
of
your
decision
to
Chase
net
zero
by
whatever
the
date
is
that
they
want
to
achieve
it
by
and
that
way
we're
going
to
have
a
more
upfront
understanding
of
what
the
planning
implications
might
be
rather
than
not,
including
that
in
this
document
and
then
us
getting
blindsided
when
they
say
you
need
to
do
X,
Y
and
Z
sure
that.
C
It's
just
that
the
recommendation
directs
the
mayor
to
write
to
the
deputy
Premier
to
say
these
are
our
key
Focus
areas,
so
we're
nominating
the
key
Focus
areas,
not
not
the
state
and
one
of
the
key
Focus
areas
that
we
are
proposed
to
endorse
is
planning
consideration
being
given
to
Net,
Zero
and
I
I.
Don't
know
I
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
The
diet
has
been
extremely
long,
but
I
just
don't
quite
understand
how
we
are
writing
to
the
deputy
premier,
pushing
particular
policy
lines
that
could
have
major
ramifications
for
planning
without
having
sorry.
A
N
No
just
through
the
chair
that
the
council
report
does
actually
ask
that
we
write
to
the
state
government
asking
how
they
outline
how
things
like
Net
Zero
will
be
bought
through
the
planning
schemes
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
we
are
essentially
asking
it
and
for
guidance,
not
saying
how,
as
a
council,
we
propose
to
tackle
this
issue.
A
D
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I
might
we're
really
blessed
to
have
such
amazing
capacity
in
this
city
to
be
able
to
respond
to
Major
things
like
this,
which
are
going
to
influence
us
and
our
future
communities
and
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
that
we've
heard
this
review?
It's
important.
A
C
E
That
the
report
be
did
the
report
be
brought
back
to
a
teacher
planning
environment
committee,
upon
completion
of
the
identified,
detailed
technical
studies
for
consideration
of
the
city,
Plan
update
by
the
end
of
2024,
or
a
new
planning
scheme
in
25
26
and
any
Associated
statutory
amendment
process.
E
E
Largely
it
was
delayed
by
some
the
timing
around
covert
and
the
ability
to
have
some
public
meetings,
and
so
I
think
that
our
earlier
advice
to
Residents
impacted
was
that
it
might
be
around
20
23
24,
that
we
would
start
to
see
changes
and,
and
that's
all
slipped
a
little
bit
and
I
thought
that
the
words
were
a
little
bit.
The
proposed
recommendation,
without
dates
or
years,
was
left
a
little
bit
too
wishy-washy.
E
We
clearly
don't
know
when
the
next
overview
of
the
entire
city
plan
will
be,
but
I
think
that
it's
it's
expected
that
every
10
years
we'll
look
at
doing
a
major
overview.
So,
given
the
states
how
the
states
dealt
with
the
City
of
Gold
Coast
in
regards
to
updates
two
and
three
we've
got
a
bit
of
uncertainty
in
regards
to
timing
at
the
moment.
So
whether
or
not
it
will
be
an
amendment
or
a
part
of
a
new
package.
D
I
D
I
D
D
Current
financial
year-
yes,
I,
guess
and.
E
Will
be
no
surprise
for
anybody
that
congestion.
I
E
A
A
D
Waiting
around
for
a
long
time,
my
motivation
here
was
understanding.
A
few
of
these
was
that
we
were
given
the
opportunity
to
have
briefings
prior
to
the
meeting,
but
that
invitation
only
came
to
us
Friday.
We
had
a
lot
to
do
with
including
budget
and
so
I
thought
these
are
important
matters.
It
would
be
great
to
have
a
briefing
but
I
appreciate
it's
been
a
long
day
and
a
big
day,
so
we
may
not
get
to
have
the
wisdom
of
your
presentation.
A
There
might
be
some
time
to
catch
up
between
now
and
full
Council
anyway,
Council
the
youngest
year
right,
so
we'll
take
take
the
vote
on
that
all
in
favor,
against
carried
unanimously
in
support
of
the
natural
environment.
Right
now,
councilor
young,
you
had
a
general
business
item.
Thank
you.
Officers.
D
D
Lego
matters
ultimately
yeah.
There
may
be
legal
advice
obtained
by
the
local
government
or
legal
proceedings
involved
in
the
local
government,
including,
for
example,
legal
proceedings
that
may
be
taken
by
or
against
the
local
government.
That
would
be
my
reason
for
seeking
that
we're
going
to
a
closed
session.
A
A
A
A
A
Framing
welcome
back
viewers
both
of
you
but
a
general
business
motion
moved
by
councilor
Peter
Young
second,
by
Council
Gates
check
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
Carrie
thanks
Jim.
Are
there
any
other
items
of
General
business.