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00:00 Meeting Commences, Attendance/Apologies, Leave of Absence, Confirmation of Minutes, Conflict of Interest Declarations, Committee Forward Planning Schedule
10:00 Reports and Presentations – 6.4
18:00 Report 6.3
1:03:00 Report 6.2
1:33:00 Report 6.1
2:11:00 General Business 8.1
A
Meeting
I
think
we
have
a
full
complement
of
Our
member
councilors
and
we
welcome
Council
McDonald
who's
visiting
councilmanson
who's
visiting
and
that's
all
no
leave
absence
or
apologies
similar
to
move
the
confirmation
minutes
by
Council
on
Jones.
Second,
by
councilor,
Carla
Neal
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
carried
conflict
of
interest
declarations,
councilor,
goats,.
B
Thanks
chairman
item
6.4
today,
I
will
be
leaving
the
receipt
of
donations
from
both
UPS
who
are
Consultants
to
the
project
and
from
whom
I
received
a
donation
of
1850
and
1415
and
16,
albeit
16,
was
to
be
refunded
and
from
Mitchell,
Ray
and
arcadis
over
the
same
same
time,
frame
which
presents
a
prescribed
interest,
even
though
it
was
fully
refunded,
so
I'll
be
departing.
The
room.
Okay,.
C
C
Mr
chairman
I
I,
wouldn't
ordinarily
make
this
declaration,
but
I
do
intend
to
ask
some
questions
of
City
officers.
So
in
order
to
address
a
perception
issue,
I'm
declaring
the
following
my
wife
and
I
own,
a
small
investment
unit
in
Palm
Beach,
not
on
the
Gold
Coast
Highway
suburbs,
for
which
the
fourth
stage
of
the
light
rail
is
proposed
to
travel.
If
we
could
just
scroll
up,
please
I
can
thank
you
very
much.
C
While
the
project
stands
to
affect
a
significant
number
of
people
in
the
local
government
area
and
so
may
be
considered
an
ordinary
business
matter
pursuant
to
section
150
ef2a
of
Local
Government
Act.
Very
recent
media
commentary
during
the
federal
election
campaign
is
heightened
Community
interest
in
the
future
of
the
project
and
then
now
create
a
perception
issue
which
some
may
be
believe
would
now
be
managed.
Reasonable
person
may
form
the
view.
I
have
an
interest
in
any
Council
strategy
or
plan
to
amend
the
planning
scheme
along
the
future
corridor.
C
Given
this
property
interest,
if
we
could
just
scroll
down
apart
from
myself,
my
wife
has
an
interest
in
this
she's.
Also,
an
electoral
donor
from
a
joint
account
owner
of
this
investment
property
in
Palm
Beach.
The
donations
are
listed
there,
just
scroll
down
I'm
seeking
permission
to
participate
in
the
decision
making
regarding
this
process
on
the
basis
that
the
fourth
stage
of
the
light
rail
will
affect
a
significant
number
of
people
within
the
local
government
area
just
within
the
corridor,
besides
those
who
live
along
earlier
stages.
C
For
that
reason,
my
consistent
approach
has
been
that
this
project
is
an
ordinary
business
item
and
requires
no
declaration.
That
said,
the
media
commentary
concerning
the
federal
election
may
have
created
new
perceptions
which
need
to
be
managed
I
do
that
voluntarily.
The
light
rail
is
a
multi-decade
city-shaping
project
that
demands
intense
interrogation.
Sorry,
oh
yeah
I
was
just
trying
to
check
which
article
6.2
and
councils
I.
You
would
read
that
report
and
think
that
there
is
no
Nexus
between
the
fourth
stage
of
the
Light
Rail
and
the
report.
C
However,
I've
got
a
question
on
the
fourth
stage
of
light
rail
that
falls
out
of
this
report
and
because
it
deals
with
potential
planning
scheme
changes
and
our
own
investment
property
in
that
Corridor
I.
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
acting
in
an
abundance
of
caution.
In
any
case,
this
decision
will
also
be
informed
by
my
insights
as
a
long-term
counselor
and
public
transport
advocate.
E
C
B
A
F
E
G
E
C
C
A
D
A
Want
to
speak
to
that
take
the
vote.
All
in
favor
Council
Hamilton
on
Jones
Council,
Gates
cancer
on
Neil,
Council,
Peter,
Young,
cancer,
Paul
and
Young,
cancel
Caldwell
against
and
councilor
vorster
did
not
vote
any
other
declarations,
Council
of
Worcester
any
other
declarations
councilors
all
right.
Thanks.
We've
got
item
6.1
and
6.4,
which
are
on
which
are
both
starred
I.
Think
we'll
just
unstar
both
of
those.
A
H
So
that
was
a
refusal
which
subsequently
went
through
to
the
planning
and
environment
court,
but
did
not
proceed
from
there
and
the
applicant
for
264
purchased
the
site
on
266
and
which
has
led
to
a
result
here
that
is
so
well
supported
by
our
planning
scheme
and
achieves
the
outcomes
that
we
look
to
see
in
that
Coastal
strip.
So,
potentially,
we
could
have
had
two
tall
slender
buildings
there
with
very
limited
outdoor
areas,
very
limited
planting,
but
still
achieving
the
outcomes
that
the
city
plan
desired.
H
But
these
the
applicant
chose
to
work
very
closely
with
our
planners
on
every
aspect.
Every
information
request.
Every
every
opportunity
they
had
to
work
with
the
planners
to
to
get
the
result
we
have
here
today.
So
we
we
have
a
a
building,
that's
25
stories,
101
units,
but
we're
going
to
have
206
car
spaces.
We've
got
a
lot
of
deep
planning.
We've
got
a
lot
of
landscaping
around
the
building.
We've
got
a
wonderful
architectural
outcome.
A
very
high
quality
I
find
it
difficult
to
pronounce
his
name.
I.
H
Think
it's
koichi
takada,
who
also
designed
at
the
Norfolk
building
at
Berlin,
the
lunar
building
at
Burley.
We
it
reflects
the
existing
and
emergency
emerging
amenity
of
the
coastal
strip.
There.
We
have
I
believe
it's
five
buildings
that
actually
exceed
the
hike
limit
based
back
on
approvals
on
previous
plans,
so
this
building
not
only
presents
beautifully
architecturally
It's,
a
Wonderful
urban
renewal
of
the
site.
H
There,
it's
a
large
site,
the
building's
very
centrally
located
it,
provides
a
diversity
of
of
offerings
housing
offerings
going
forward
with
two
bedroom
units
up
to
four
bedroom
units
units
at
the
rear.
As
to
the
front
so
there's
Hinterland
views.
There's
there's
ocean
views.
It's
in
walking
distance
to
our
public
infrastructure,
our
transport.
It's
reflective
of
what
we
expect
to
see
in
this
area.
It's
it's
achieved
the
outcome
of
that
Coastal
strip.
There
we
are
on
that
strip.
There
we
are
looking
to
look
at
high
density.
H
I
was
at
breakfast
this
morning,
where
our
CEO
spoke
close
on.
40
percent
of
the
six
City's
population
dwells
within
some
type
of
multi-dwelling
building.
So
we
are
catering
to
the
asking
here
within
the
city.
Is
it
40
of
our
population
is
living
in
some
multi-dwelling
offering?
This
is
a
building
that
fits
with
the
city
plan.
G
G
But
there
may
come
a
time
sometime
in
the
future,
where
those
same
set
of
owners
that
are
compiling
and
of
Lodge
complaints.
In
regards
to
this
application,
May
collectively
seek
to
have
a
different
outcome
in
regards
to
their
rather
large
side
in
regards
to
both
density
and
height
and
the
location
of
the
buildings.
So
I
think
that
all
things
considered
it
whilst
it's
quite
a
large
volume
of
submitters
against
it,
I
think
that
the
way
that
it's
been
managed
in
regards
to
the
current
city
plan
makes
sense.
A
Okay,
welcome
back
councilor
Gates,
so
we've
got
three
strategic
planning
items
that
relate
to
City
plan
amendments
now,
Catherine
I
think
we
wanted
to
actually
did
you
still
want
to
deal
with
them
in
reverse
order,
so
starting
with
6.3,
okay,
so
councils?
If
there's
no
objections
to
that,
Catherine's
asked
if
we
could
just
reverse
the
order,
so
we'll
move
to
item
6.3.
First.
A
I
As
you
may
be
aware,
this
amendment
has
been
referred
to
as
the
our
CDR
plan,
so
it
contains
both
the
major
update
two
and
three
and
the
major
update
to
the
city
plan
policies.
By
way
of
an
update
on
the
amendment,
you
may
recall
in
February
2021
that
Council
resolved
to
proceed
to
a
fourth
round
or
consultation
and
that
commenced
on
the
9th
of
March
and
ended
on
the
8th
of
April
in
accordance
with
the
resolution.
Given
there
were
no
significantly
different
changes
to
the
amendment.
I
In
response
to
the
submissions,
we
proceeded
to
an
informal,
State
officer,
interest
review.
Following
our
engagement
with
the
state
officers.
We
acted
under
the
delegation
and
has
submitted
the
amendment
package
to
the
minister
for
approval
to
adopt
following
the
the
submission
to
the
state.
We
continue
to
engage
with
the
officers
and
that
included
a
response
to
the
request
for
further
information
that
we
made
in
late,
April
and
2022.
I
There's
the
details
there,
as
you
can,
with
respect
to
The
Minister's
decision
on
the
17th
of
October,
we'll
receive
The
Minister's
decision
approving
the
amendment
in
part,
20
of
the
34
items
have
been
approved
by
the
minister
with
five
conditions.
Part
B
confirms
that
13
of
the
items
unable
to
be
supported
by
the
minister
at
this
time.
I
You
see
the
slide
before
you
shows
the
items
that
have
been
approved
by
the
minister
and
there
are
five
conditions
that
are
required
to
be
complied
with.
Prior
to
adoption.
Officers
have
updated
the
amendment
to
comply
with
these
conditions,
as
contained
within
attachment
three
and
four
to
the
agenda
item.
I
The
slide
five
before
you
shows
the
items
that
are
unable
to
be
supported
by
the
minister
and
as
outlined
in
The
Minister's
decision.
The
the
main
concerns
were
primarily
with
respect
to
item
9
and
11
within
the
package
being
the
built
form,
improvements
and
the
light
rail
overlay
provisions
based
on
the
evidence
submitted
to
date,
the
minister
is
unable
to
conclude
the
extent
these
changes
will
impact
housing
Supply
and
if
the
changes
will
impact
market
feasibility
and
therefore
lead
to
the
constriction
of
the
supply
of
housing.
I
Whilst
the
minister
was
supportive
of
the
targeted
growth
Provisions
in
the
city,
they
were.
The
ministers
held
concerns
with
respect
to
the
site,
cover
trigger
for
impact
assessment
in
that
locality
and
his
concern
that
it
had
the
potential
to
restrict
the
delivery
of
Housing
and
providing
a
regulatory
barrier
for
the
change.
I
There
were
a
number
of
items
separate
to
those
matters
that
were
also
supported
by
the
minister,
however,
outlined
in
The
Minister's
decision.
These
were
interconnected
with
policy
items
9
and
11,
and
was
identified
that
these
changes
had
the
potential
to
cause
issues
with
the
workability
of
the
planning
scheme.
I
As
a
consequence
of
The
Minister's
decision
for
major
update
package,
two
and
three,
we
also
made
corresponding
changes
to
the
city
plan
policies
to
carry
for
the
items
that
were
approved
or
the
policy
to
support
the
items
approved
under
major
update
two
and
three
and
there's
a
short
outline
of
those
details
in
the
agenda
report
and
on
the
screen.
Currently.
I
With
respect
to
the
the
items
that
have
been
adopted,
sort
of
approved
for
adoption
by
the
minister
is
the
officer
recommendation
that
we
proceed
to
adopt
the
major
update
package
two
and
three
in
accordance
with
The
Minister's
decision
and
conditions
and
adopt
that
City
plan
policies.
Amendment
package,
which
supports
two
and
three
with
a
commencement
date
of
the
Fourth
of
July
2023.
D
A
J
I
Please,
through
Mr
chair
councilor
young,
there
were
two
investigation
areas
that
were
removed
from
the
mapping
detail.
One
was
in
whittian
Road
in
Carrara.
It's
my
understanding,
which
transferred
into
a
low
density
large
lot
Precinct
and
if
you
just
got
the
details
for
the
second
one,
was
it
mudra
get.
I
Chair,
that's
that's
fine.
As
outlined
in
the
Agenda
Report,
we
did
publish
a
consultation
report
in
parallel
with
the
submission
of
the
package
for
adoption
to
the
minister.
At
that
time
we
presented
a
tailored
response
to
all
of
the
submissions,
sorry
to
all
the
submitters
confirming
the
outcomes
of
the
amendment.
I
In
the
circumstances
where
the
last
time
we've
been
to
council
to
facilitate
the
fourth
round,
the
consultation
and
the
fact
that
we've
we
have
currently
met
our
obligations,
Under
The,
Minister's
guidelines
and
rules.
We
think
it
would
be
a
helpful
and
informative
way
to
let
the
community
know
of
the
decision
that
the
minister
has
made
to
just
to
adopt
the
changes
in
part
and
to
be
able
to
write
to
the
submitters
to
confirm
council's
position
today.
I
Through
you
Mr
chair,
guess
right
there
were
2130
submissions
across
four
rounds
of
consultation,
which
gave
rise
to
24
000
points
of
submission.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
public
interest
through
the
process
and
they
probably
would
not
all
be
aware.
We
have
as
part
of
progressing
the
changes
to
council,
published
The,
Minister's
decision
on
the
website,
and
we've
been
addressing
community
members
as
they
come
along.
But
the
ability
to
provide
a
more
comprehensive
update
to
the
community
would
be
a
positive
for
the
community.
So.
A
C
Very
much
Mr
chairman
Mr
chairman,
my
personal
view,
is
that
this
has
been
a
hatchet
job
I'm
a
part
of
the
minister
and
what
we've
been
not
asked
to
endorse
today.
Adopt
the
city
plan.
It's
a
compromised
outcome,
at
least
from
a
community
perspective.
We
did
a
lot
of
work.
We
went
out
to
consultation
on
so
many
occasions
and
rather
than
heeding
the
advice
of
Gold,
Coasters
I
think
we've
had
a
decision
from
George
Street,
that's
trashed
it.
C
C
So
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
that
we've
had
a
a
really
good
process
with
the
community.
Consultation
was
very
robust
and
we've
done
it
done
our
dandest
to
develop
an
amendment
package
that
seizes
opportunity,
but
fulfills
Community
aspiration
and
is
tempered
by
present
concerns.
We've
we've
done
some
heavy
lifting,
given
that
Amendment
package,
two
and
three
is
so
compromised.
In
my
view,
I
would
hate
for
those
submitters
to
believe
that
we're
complicit
in
that
compromise-
and
my
question,
Mr
chairman,
threw
you
to
city
offices
is
when
we
do
write
to
these
submitters.
I
C
Mr,
chairman
I,
can't
provide
a
direction
to
city
offices,
but
what
I
think
is
critically
important
in
the
communication.
Is
that
to
the
extent
an
item
has
not
been
adopted
by
the
minister
I
think
it's
important
to
explain
what
the
consequence
of
the
minister
not
adopting
that
measure
would
be,
and
it
could
just
be
a
bullet
point.
You
know
the
ministers
decide
not
to
do
this
here
are
the
consequences
and
to
address
the
Fallout.
What
we're
proposing
is
a
new
process
and
a
new
way
forward.
I
I
C
Makes
sense
so
Mr
chairman,
perhaps
rather
than
including
it
in
the
letter,
if
there's
some
resistance
to
that
on
the
GC
have
your
say
page
that
hosted
the
community
consultation
on
the
amend
package.
The
system
through
which
many
submissions
were
made.
It
would
be
useful
to
have
a
fact
sheet
of
of
sorts,
which
explained
which
items
were
not
adopted
as
part
of
two
and
three
and
what
the
consequences
are
of
effectively
The
Minister's
Direction.
C
So
if
it's
not
to
be
in
the
letter,
I
still
think
that
document
needs
to
exist
somewhere
publicly,
so
that
when
residents
do
have
concerns
about
housing,
affordability,
housing,
Supply
design
outcomes,
we
can
at
least
Point
them
to
a
single
point
of
Truth.
To
explain
that
we
tried
to
do
everything
within
our
power
to
secure
these
outcomes.
But
the
state
intervened
in
that
progress.
I
Through
Mr,
chair
I
think
that's
something
that
we
could
certainly
undertake
May,
perhaps
as
part
of
making
those
updates
and
those
fact
sheet
Arrangements.
We
could
also
welcome
the
community
to
keep
track
of
the
website
as
policy
items
progress,
and
we
have
an
understanding
more
clearly
as
that,
how
they
might
end
up
in
the
future
and
perhaps
try
and
make
that
engagement
more
regular
and
frequent.
K
Thank
you,
sir,
similar
to
what
counts.
The
boss
said
it's
quite
disappointing
that
our
officers
had
engaged
with
the
state
so
early
and
worked
through
all
the
different
items
about
package,
and
then
the
State
gave
us
the
go
ahead
to
Lodge
and
now
we've
got
all
these
concerns
about
various
items
and
it's
holding
up
what
are
quite
substantial
items
in
amendments
two
and
three
in
the
letter
that's
proposed
to
go
to
the
submitters
is
that
going
to
like
on
page
55
and
56,
it
clearly
outlines
The
Minister's
reasons
for
not
supporting
the
items.
L
Through
you
Mr
chair,
we
obviously
once
we've
got
the
decision
of
council.
We
can
put
it
together
pretty
quickly
most
of
the
submitters
we
contact
via
email,
so
we
most
of
the
submissions
were
electronic
I
think
we
had
it
at
almost
200
that
were
hard
copy,
so
we'd
write
back
in
hard
copied
to
them.
What
we
could
do
you've,
probably
seen
in
the
agenda
item.
There
are
other
breakdown
of
items,
so
we
can
put
that
as
a
as
an
attachment
to
the
letter.
L
A
Just
wondering
whether
we
could,
depending
on
the
timing
as
I,
said
whether
you
could
pull
together
the
draft
sometime
between
now
and
full
Council
or
yep,
and
then
maybe,
if
you
circulate
that
we
can
provide
some
comments
or
guidance
or
if
there's
a
requirement
for
an
amended
resolution,
come
for
Council.
We
can
push
in
that
direction.
Okay,.
K
K
I
Three
three
Mr
chair:
each
submission
would
be
taken
to
be
one
submission
from
a
person
or
a
business
or,
however,
the
circumstances
may
be
across
the
four
rounds
of
the
consultation
and
that's
shown
in
the
figure
there.
You
can
see
how
many
submissions
were
received
across
the
rounds
and
then,
as
a
consequence
of
analyzing,
the
submissions.
There's
24
000
individual
points
of
submission,
depending
on
the
detail
on
each
submission.
I
M
A
K
F
Three
Mr
chair
I,
think
so
we'll
discuss
that
further
in
the
in
the
next
item,
but
it
was
the
it
was
the
linkage
back
to
those
you
know.
His
constant
sort
of
remark
was
around
housing,
Supply
and
diversity.
So
there
was
a
concern
that
the
impact
trigger
was
going
to
have
an
adverse
effect
on
housing,
Supply
and
diversity,
which
was
the
comment
that
was
made
basically.
K
Yeah
and
and
then
I
guess,
just
the
link
back
to
item
nine
and
the
built
form
improvements.
Obviously
we
there's
a
need
for
housing.
We
also
want
quality,
housing
and
there's
I
know.
The
officers
did
very
substantial
scenario
testing
to
show
that
developments
were
still
feasible
and
was
that
a
reasonable
point
of
discussion
when
we
were
with
the
state
or
were
they
of
little
interest
to
the
scenario
testing
that
we'd
undertaken.
M
Provided
to
the
state
are
either
through
the
submission
of
the
amendment
or
the
response
to
the
questions.
We've
also
reiterated
that
information
at
our
workshops
to
say
that
Council
has
done
a
significant
amount
of
work
to
date
to
understand
any.
If
there
are
implications
of
these
policy
changes
to
City
plan,
then
our
position
is
that
we
don't
believe
that
they
do
affect
development
feasibility.
Based
on
the
information
that
we've
previously
prepared.
D
N
N
You
know
a
couple
of
years
before
they
can
actually
be
activated
and
and
I
think
that's
of
major
concerns
with
the
amount
of
applications
that
we
can
see
coming
into
the
city
now,
and
these
changes
need
to
be
in
place
as
soon
as
possible,
but
I
think
the
community
should
really
know
what
the
process
is.
What
the
time
frame
is
because
this
is
just
a
delay
in
in
what's
happening
and
I
I
think
the
state
government
should
be
really
accountable
made
accountable
for
what
they're
doing
to
this
city.
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair.
G
A
Look
I
mean
the
in
the
first
cut.
The
correspondence
that
is
the
next
touch
Point
directly
to
the
submitters
I
think
is
what
council
of
Warsaw
was
talking
about,
but
that
you
know
we
can
update
the
Landing
part
page
once
we
have
further
resolutions
that
explain
what
the
timing
and
compilation
is
of
the
future
Amendment
packages,
so
I
think
it'll
be
continuing.
Okay,
thank.
G
You
and
in
regards
to
the
proposed
draft
correspondence,
is
that
do
officers.
Imagine
that's
going
to
be
like
a
two-page,
something
because
part
of
the
challenge
that
I
think
we
have
with
this
is
communicating
in
a
simple
form.
What's
a
horribly
complex
issue.
So
are
you
imagining
it
being
two
pages
four
pages.
L
Through
the
chair,
only
a
couple
of
pages
we've
got:
we've
got
one
of
the
one
of
the
pages
really
is
sitting
in
here.
How
we'd
explain
it
and
then
just
some
supporting
information
on
the
front
just
to
give
an
update
on
where
we've
got
to
the
next
steps.
That
will
you
know,
depending
on
the
outcome
of
the
next
agenda
item,
the
way
forward
with
that
as
well.
G
So
so
I'd
be
interested
in
the
what
corporate
comms
view
is
on
that
as
well
and
in
particular,
I
think.
We've
all
moved
to
this
quarterly
newsletter
release
as
well,
which
has
information
from
the
divisional
councilors
and
information
from
the
mayor
in
that
in
that
newsletter,
it
may
very
well
be
given
the
importance
of
this
as
a
city-wide
issue
that
may
be.
G
The
next
quarterly
round
of
newsletters
has
a
common,
a
common
theme
in
regards
to
the
mayor's
message
about
where
we
stand
with
the
city
plan
and
why
we
stand
in
that
particular
way.
So,
rather
than
being
something
else,
I
think
this
is
a
could
be
a
priority
for
that
common
message
across
all
of
the
newsletters
foreign.
A
Did
you
have
something
all
right
so
council's
just
in
relation
that
paragraph
seven
I
mean
this?
This
item
predominantly
is
dealing
with
what
we
did
get
through
and
when
it
starts
so
next
item
round
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
way
forward
on
the
balance
of
the
items,
so
I
think
if
we
can
get
a
draft
prior
to
full
Council
that'll
help
us
on
that
issue.
A
B
Terminal
need
to
say
that,
as
has
already
been
said,
we
did
four
rounds
of
consultation
about
this
package.
It's
good
to
see
some
of
the
package
being
adopted.
Finally,
today,
but
in
terms
of
what
is
still
to
come,
it
is
extremely
disappointing
because
our
aspiration
was
to
listen
to
the
community.
We
tried
to
listen
to
the
people
and
reflect
what
they
wanted
to
see
in
this
amendment
package
in
terms
of
setbacks,.
B
So
today
we
get
a
chance
to
work
out
the
future
with
that,
but
I'd
have
to
say
I'm
pleased
to
be
adopting
some
of
it
at
long
last,
because
there's
been
so
many
delays
along
the
way
and
it'll
be
good
to
get
moving,
especially
from
from
my
part,
with
the
additional
housing
at
upper
coomera
that
comes
in
because
of
an
area's
inclusion
in
the
urban
footprint.
So
that's
one
positive
for
housing
Supply
that
we'll
now
see
proceed.
C
The
unfortunate
reality
is
that
we
only
exist
as
a
level
of
government
through
the
state's
Local
Government
Act.
We
are
a
creature
of
the
state
government
and
that
can
be
quite
jarring
for
Gold
Coasters,
who
expect
those
who
are
closest
to
the
people
to
be
their
most
effective,
Representatives
I
think
we
we've
been
put
in
an
impossible
situation
by
the
state
government
being
asked
to
go
to
the
community
time
and
time
and
time
again
to
consult
with
them
on
the
future
of
the
city.
C
The
way
it
looks
the
way
it
functions,
but
then
effectively
being
told
to
disregard
that
Community
feedback
I
actually
believe
it
makes
a
mockery
of
community-led
decision
making
and
The
Minister's
intervention
will
act
will
fundamentally
undermine
any
future
consultation
that
we
undertake
on
their
behalf
with
the
community.
In
the
way
the
city
looks
what
confidence
will
a
future
submitter
have
when
we
engage
with
them
that
when
they
speak
up
that
we
will
listen
and
that
we
will
achieve
outcomes?
C
What
confidence
will
they
have?
I
would
put
to
you
that
they
should
have
zero
confidence,
that
they
will
achieve
anything
with
a
submission,
because
when
we
do
it
four
and
five
times
it
effectively
amounts
to
nothing
and
that's
not
because
of
us
as
a
council
and
it's
not
because
of
our
hard-working
and
I'm
sure
overworked
city
offices.
It's
because
the
state
government
hasn't
seen
fit
to
take
the
community
on
the
journey
and
for
whatever
reason
decided
to
implement
their
own
will
through
us
as
a
council.
C
If
I
was
a
submitter,
I'd
be
totally
dissuaded
from
participating
in
the
process
and
I
think
that
leads
to
an
overall,
worse
outcome
for
the
city,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
the
record
and
to
say
this.
Lastly,
foreign
struggling
to
put
a
roof
over
their
head
or
to
protect
their
lifestyle
are
now
miles
worse
off.
O
You
chair
I,
share
the
views
of
my
fellow
counselors.
This
is
deeply
disappointing
from
prior
to
coming
into
Council
and
and
through
my
time
during
the
Amendments
I've
met
with
hundreds
of
residents
who
are
very
very
concerned
about
this,
but
we're
very
grateful
that
they
had
an
opportunity
to
have
their
say.
I
want
to
make
it
clear
to
those
residents
today
that
what
this
means
is
the
state
government
are
saying:
yes,
we
want
your
height
and
we
want
your
increase
in
making
it
easier
for
developers.
No,
we
don't
want
your
deeper
Landscaping.
O
No,
we
don't
want
better
site
setbacks
and
no,
we
don't
want
assurances
on
height.
That
is
what
the
state
government
is
telling
us.
After
all,
of
our
community
engagement
and
work.
This
morning,
ABC
radio
did
a
conversation
about
City
Planning
and
what
council
needs
to
do.
It
would
have
been
great
if
ABC
took
the
opportunity
to
invite
one
of
our
Council
offices
or
counselor
the
chair
of
planning
to
engage
in
that
conversation,
and
they
may
have
learned
the
issue
is
not
at
Council
level.
The
issue
is
at
state
level
out.
O
Our
officers
have
done
rigorous
scenario,
testing
and,
as
has
been
stated
again
and
again,
the
state
government
have
been
going
along
this
journey
with
us.
The
whole
way
pointing
out
that,
yes,
it's
great,
that
we
have
Community
feedback
and
then,
at
the
last
minute
saying
we
do
not
care
an
Iota
about
what
the
Gold
Coast
Community
thinks.
We
just
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
property
developers.
This
really
is
quite
despicable
and
I
would
not
be
supporting
it
for
the
same
reasons:
councilor
Boston.
P
They
do
realize
that
it's
a
state
holding
it
up
so
I
think
that
the
the
we
forget-
those
facts
out
there
to
make
everybody
aware
that
we
want
all
of
their
amendments
two
and
three
to
be
adopted.
I
think
that
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
and
we
and
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
I
will
be
voting
for
this
motion
today,
because
I
don't
want
to
hold
up
these.
These
other
amendments,
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
it.
P
K
Thanks
chair
just
the
same
again
to
mirror
all
the
councilors
I
think
it's
important,
especially
if
we
are
writing
to
submitters,
that
it
is
very
clear
as
to
the
the
state's
reasoning
as
to
why
they're
not
supportive,
and
why
we're
being
railroaded
down
this
path
and
I
think
timing-wise
is
important
so
that
counselors
can
be
assistive
in
that
communication
piece
as
well.
It's
just
so
disappointing
that
so
much
consultation
has
been
done.
Q
And
I
think
I'm
just
going
to
reinforce
the
disappointment
from
most
councilors
and
again
I'm
working
with
a
lot
of
the
community.
Through
The
Heart
of
the
City
and
all
I
can
say
is
we
are
approving
developments.
The
amounts
that
have
been
approved
is
is
enormous.
It's
as
high
as
it's
ever
been,
and
these
improvements
we're
doing
here
is
to
just
get
the
balance
right
between
a
built
form
in
a
city
and
a
right
outcome
for
our
community
and
that's
the
reason
we
we
go
and
talk
to
the
community
is.
Q
That's
worked
very
hard,
I've
been
here
three
years
and
it
was
on
the
table
when
I
first
got
here
through
to
dealing
with
all
our
community
Through
the
last
three
years
of
working
hard
to
give
submissions
and
working
harder
and
closer
with
Council
to
be
slapped
in
the
face.
And-
and
it's
really
time
for
me.
I-
do
see
that
we
do
need
to
move
forward
and
accept
changes.
Q
But
at
the
same
time
we
do
need
to
send
a
message
to
the
state
government
that
yes
we're
here
and
we're
doing
a
job
and
we're
doing
it
right
and
we're
doing
it
correctly
and
we're
listening
and,
at
the
same
time
we're
ensuring
that
we
provide
Supply
to
our
city.
So
I'm
not
on
this
committee.
But
for
me
we
need
to
make
a
stance
against
state
government
because
we
need
action.
A
A
and
at
that
point
in
time,
I
would
say
that
it
was
actually
showing
a
great
deal
of
foresight
and
care
for
the
way
in
which
we
want
our
city
to
grow,
that
we
embarked
on
this
journey,
and
we
have
had
multiple
opportunities
for
the
state
planning
minister
to
endorse
the
state
interest
and
for
us
to
move
forward.
And
then
at
the
11th
hour,
with
a
change
in
Minister.
We've
had
a
change
in
view
which,
to
me
is
completely
inexplicable.
A
Planning
is
a
locally
determined
matter.
We
should
be
given
the
opportunity
to
set
our
planning
scheme
and
to
make
planning
decisions,
and
the
states
role
should
be
limited
to
genuine
matters
of
State
interest.
And
this
intervention
to
me
is
a
concerning
overreach
by
the
minister
when
the
city
plan
amendments
actually
deliver
an
uplift
in
housing,
Supply
opportunities
through
the
city
in
well-located
suburbs
that
there
could
be
any
criticism
of
us
in
having
said
about
trying
to
achieve
that
as
an
outcome.
A
It
is
and
I
back
up
all
of
what
my
colleagues
have
said
in
relation
to
the
genuine
engagement
that
we
undertook
with
our
community,
because
for
the
first
time
we
went
out,
we
listened
and
we
made
changes.
This
was
a
genuine
consultative
process
and
the
state
government
should
be
listening
to
the
Gold
Coast
residents
in
the
way
that
we
listen
to
the
Gold
Coast
residents
and
this
amendment
package
had
something
in
it
for
everyone
from
kumara
to
currumbin.
A
Everyone
was
touched
in
some
way
by
these
Amendment
package
changes
in
main
beach,
mermaid
Beach,
Palm,
Beach,
Chevron
Island
everywhere
across
the
coast.
The
Innovative
introduction
of
a
new
low
medium
Zone
has
been
delayed
without
any
consideration
for
the
impact
of
that
on
our
community.
So
I,
like
councilor
O'neill,
will
support
this
motion
only
because
it
clears
the
way
for
us
to
get
on
with
pursuing
the
balance
of
these
amendments
and
reforms
that
are
so
important
and
makes
our
officers
life
easier
in
clearing
the
decks
of
some
of
the
work.
N
What
what
instead
of
making
certainly
we've
got
the
housing
Supply,
but
certainly
with
the
variety
and
affordability?
That's
not
happening,
I've
just
received
something
in
Palm
Beach,
for
instance-
and
this
is
an
application-
hasn't
even
been
approved
by
a
council
yet,
and
the
starting
price
for
these
units
are
six
million
350,
000.
and
and
I
understand.
The
they've
been
knocked
back
on
one
of
the
units
for
20
million.
N
So
is
this
affordability,
no
I'm
getting
from
my
community
that
they're
finding
it
very
difficult
to
get
Workers
because
people
cannot
afford
to
live
here.
So
what
we?
What
this?
What
the
state
is
doing
in
not
approving
this?
The
livability
and
affordability
of
this
city
is
going
out.
The
window
people
are
moving
out
because
they
can't
afford
to
live
here.
D
J
J
J
Time
and
time
again
trying
to
represent
the
interests
of
the
city
and
I'm
very
grateful
for
that.
So
we're
in
a
bit
of
a
compromised
situation
here
and
one
of
the
outcomes
that
I
feel
is
going
to
influence
the
area
that
I
represent
like
Pacific,
Pines
and
nerang
is
a
stronger
interest
in
those
areas
in
developing
those
areas,
because
it's
going
to
be
cheaper
and
more
achievable
and
then
that
results
in
all
sorts
of
there
are
ramifications
from
that.
H
Thanks
chair
and
look
totally
agree
with
the
discussion
here
with
the
with
my
colleagues
but
I,
just
think
just
to
back
to
council
McDonald's
statement.
We
can't
consider
anything
in
isolation
and
to
say
it's
a
six
million
dollar
unit.
We
don't
want
to
discriminate
against
people
who
are
coming
into
our
city
that
are
actually
looking
to
not
only
invest
in
working
in
the
city,
but
also
to
live
in
the
city.
H
Whether
it
comes
into
our
our
our
health
and
knowledge,
Precinct
to
whether
it
comes
into
to
our
education,
whether
it
comes
into
our
film
industry
or
anything,
we
still
have
to
strike
that
balance
that
we
are
have
an
offering
for
anybody
who
chooses
to
live
in
our
city
and
to
use
a
particular
application
in
isolation.
Isn't
going
to
give
us
that
balance
for
you
across
the
city.
A
A
A
M
All
right
through
the
chair,
the
presentation
of
this
item
is
in
consideration
of
a
way
forward
for
the
items
that
remain
outstanding
or
otherwise
no
one
is
Part
B
of
those
items.
There
are
13
items
that
remain
for
future.
Consideration
of
council
Gavin's
already
provided
an
overview
of
some
of
those
items,
so
I
won't
sort
of
delay
the
presentation
in
terms
of
the
decision
we
would
like
from
Council
today.
M
So
this
image
actually
provides
a
breakdown
of
how
items
are
related
to
item
9
and
11.
The
Minister's
decision
in
relation
to
the
outstanding
13
items
was
primarily
driven
by
item
9
and
11
and
their
inability
to
determine
how
interlinked
they
were
to
the
overall
Amendment,
which
is
then
the
decision
was
to
just
not
allow
Council
to
adopt
those
items.
There
are
some
links
that
need
to
be
reviewed,
but
we
believe
there
are
items
that
will
be
able
to
be
progressed.
M
M
These
are
all
new
Amendment
packages.
There
will
be
no
recommencement
of
these
amendments,
which
means
that
we
have
to
start
State
interest
review.
We
have
to
proceed
back
through
Community
consultation
and
then
back
to
the
minister
for
adoption,
something
that
the
city's
already
recognized
as
a
need
is
the
the
need
to
break
down
these
amendments
into
smaller
items.
So
that's
something
we've
already
been
working
on.
M
What
they've
also
asked
for
is
a
development
of
a
clear
problem
definition.
So
what
was
the
original
intent
from
Council
in
undertaking
these
amendments?
We've
already
started.
Those
conversations
with
the
state
office
is
to
provide
them
guidance
in
terms
of
the
background
of
the
items
we've
taken
them
out
on
site
to
say.
Well,
these
are
the
actual
issues
that
we're
facing
as
a
city
to
build
their
overall
understanding
of
why
the
amendments
were
made
and
also
the
need
for
evidence-based
planning.
M
M
Between
now
and
the
next
Council
election,
because
I'm
we're
mindful
that
we're
about
to
move
into
a
year
where
we've
got
Council
and
state
election
periods
and
what
that
could
have
on
as
an
implication
to
our
city
plan
Amendment
program
just
in
terms
of
the
program,
if
you
turn
to
page
65,
we've
provided
just
a
bit
of
an
outline
of
where
we
see
we'll
be
heading
in
the
next
three
to
four
months.
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
hold
the
workshop
in
early
to
mid-march
from
then.
M
We
will
then
report
back
to
council
about
a
provider
formal
update,
sorry,
okay,
foreign,
a
formal
update
to
Council
in
terms
of
a
Way
Forward,
we'll
also
at
that
Workshop
talked
about
the
need
for
potentially
tailored
Amendment
processes
that
the
city
can
use
to
get
this
amendments
that
the
state
has
previously
seen
and
endorsed
in
principle
through
a
quicker
process.
But
we'll
also
talk
to
you
about
the
process
and
some
of
the
drawbacks
from
that
as
well.
M
D
G
Chair
I
think
you
summed
it
up
quite
well
when
you
interrupted
the
conversation
to
say
that
they
could
have
just
signed
it
off
and
I'm
really
interested
in
regards
to
the
workshop,
despite
the
officers
doing
an
enormous
amount
of
work
with
their
colleagues
in
the
state.
A
workshop
is
to
brief
the
councilors
and
the
mayor.
Is
there
any
possibility
of
the
two
members
of
a
government
involved
being
Mr
miles
and
the
sole
member
on
the
Gold
Coast
being
also
invited
to
that
Workshop?
Thank
you.
G
Whoever
wants
to
turn
my
dealings
with
the
State
offices
is
that
they're
not
allowed
to
talk
to
politicians?
Basically
and
but
we've
got
a
political
problem
where
we've
got
a
council.
That's
agreed
in
regards
to
amendments
packages
two
and
three
and
we've
got
a
a
state
government,
who's
who's
disagreed
and
to
me,
and
then
it
gets
communicated
by
the
officers.
Yeah
and
I
and
I
have
a
sense
that
maybe
the
officers
don't
necessarily
always
agree
with
those
political
decisions.
G
G
And-
and
he
may
choose
to
not
to
to
not
accept
an
invitation,
but
like
I
mean
I,
we
just
reached
the
point
where,
since
2016
we've
been
spinning
our
wheels
and,
quite
frankly,
I
voted
against
the
last
one,
because
I
I
think
we're
actually
reached
the
point
where
we
may
be
better
off.
If
the
minister
can't
assist
us
to
package
two
and
three
get
actually
started
on
the
entire
Amendment
of
the
planning
scheme,
which
we
know
is
coming
anyway.
G
You
know,
and
so
there
comes
a
time
after
a
three
or
four
year
period,
where
we
need
to
do
that
and
I
acknowledge
what
the
officers
said
in
regards
to
the
next
state
election.
But
that's
October
2024,
like
I,
mean
so
so
they
may
enjoy
that
type
of
procrastination.
But
I,
don't
think
our
residents
do
statement
rather
than
a
question.
A
G
No,
like
I
mean
we've
reached
the
point
where
in
the
chat
or
wherever
we
have
a
workshop,
because
and
and
it
might
be
just
for
15
minutes
where
he
says
we'll
do
these
things
and
we're
on
our
way.
You
know,
but
but
he
might
actually
hear
the
frustration
of
the
elected
representatives
first
hand,
rather
than
it
being
that
two-part
Shuffle
that
happens
between
the
poor
City
officers
having
to
deal
with
their
counterparts
at
the
state.
Yeah.
N
No,
it's
been
going
for
since
2016.
we've
had
all
these
consultation
with
our
community,
whatever
happens
now,
with
the
Amendments,
nine
and
and
11.
that's
going
to
have
to
go
out
for
Community
consultation
all
over
again,
exactly
the
same
thing.
That's
going
out,
they're
going
to
have
to
put
in
all
those
submissions
again,
I
mean
you
know
it's
just
ridiculous.
What
the
community
is
going
to
have
to
go
through
and
and
I
just
think
there
should
be
really
questions
asked
in
the
state
Parliament.
Why
has
this
happened?
N
N
You
know
before
all
this
comes
into
play,
even
if
the
state
government
signs
up
on
it,
you
know
have
we
got
a
time
frame
on
this
because,
as
we
know,
when
it
comes
into
play,
you
know
there's
still
a
period
of
what
is
it
12
months,
18
months
before
it
actually
is
acted
upon.
So
we're
probably
looking
at
another
five
years,
even
if
the
the
state
put
this
through
in
the
next
12
months,
we're
looking
at
probably
another
five
years,
because
before
it
all
comes
into
play,
is
that
correct.
M
The
implications
of
that
is
that
they
will
go
into
a
caretaker
period,
which
essentially
halts
the
amendment
at
a
process
if
they're
in
the
decision
period.
So
that's
the
the
sort
of
implication
in
terms
of
the
election
period
that
we
really
do
have
quite
a
condensed
time
frame
to
get
this
work
through
and
back
to
the
state.
So
we
can
proceed
along
the
course.
M
A
K
Thanks
jet
I
guess
bear
cancer
and
Jones
said
having.
The
minister
would
be
very
helpful
because
there's
been
so
much
backwards
and
forwards.
If
that
can
just
be
the
discussion
between
the
elective
Representatives
as
to
the
pain,
that's
being
felt,
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
but
just
wanted
to
know
how
far
far
away
so
this
looks
like
there's
13
items
that
weren't
supported,
but
10
of
them
from
reading
this
they're
okay,
except
for
the
intertwining,
with
item
9
and
11..
So
if
item
nine
was
different
item,
11
was
different
item.
K
M
Through
the
chair,
those
are
the
items
that
we
believe
we
can
put
through.
Apart
from
targeted
growth,
which
is
reliant
on
the
new
medium
new
low,
medium
density
Zone.
We
need
to
have
that
included
as
Amendment
package
to
be
able
to
then
pull
through
the
targeted
growth,
zoning
height
and
density
changes.
So.
M
That's
what
we're
going
to
work
through,
because,
even
though
we
are
trying
to
break
out
the
packages,
there
are
some
still
natural
relationships
that
we
can
work
on
to
get
this
work
through.
The
decision
we
can
then
make
is
how
this
is
packaged
up
and
how
we
consult
with
the
community
to
make
sure
that
an
industry
in
terms
of
building
their
understanding
of
what
the
city
is
trying
to
propose
to
do.
K
Is
it
sorry
jay
even
on
that
we
had
already
done
engagement
with
industry
as
well?
There'd
been
a
lot
of
Engagement,
not
just
with
residents
and
people
who
live
on
the
Gold
Coast,
but
also
the
industry
who
are
looking
to
build
these
housing
options
on
the
Gold
Coast
and
that's
why
I'm,
just
so
confused
as
to
what
the
ministers
saying
wrong
with
form
improvements
and
and
the
light
rail
corridor
yeah.
Q
Q
What
I'm
hearing
is
we've
done.
Community
consultation,
local
Council
has
done.
Community
consultation
officers
have
worked
with
State
offices
and
The
Minister's,
not
happy
with
the
state
of
at
the
moment.
A
workshop
be
great
to
have
the
minister,
but
maybe
you
should
come
down
here
and
do
the
community
consultation,
because
why
are
we
bothering
doing
it
if
they're
not
going
to
listen
at
the
highest
level?
Q
I
mean
this
whole
process
has
from
216
to
now
has
been
about
getting
a
balance
and
doing
the
community
consultation,
which
we've
been
doing
the
community
consultation.
What
I'm
hearing
here
is
officers
have
been
working
with
State
offices
that
have
been
pretty
much
on
the
same
page
over
the
period
of
time.
Councilors
have
worked
closely
with
Community,
with
Community
consultation.
To
do
the
work
to
build
a
city
plan,
that's
right
for
the
city
moving
forward
and
there's
one
person.
Q
A
We'll
we'll
talk
through
the
way
the
timelines
will
follow
once
when
we
have
our
Workshop,
but
we
are
hoping
the
the
essence
of
what's
been
described
as
a
tailored
amendment
process
essentially
means
that
you
can
truncate
the
timelines
by
running
public
consultation
in
parallel
to
the
state
interest
check,
which
saves
you
some
double
handling
of
time,
but
yeah
get
points
well
made.
Counselor
Hamill.
E
M
C
Just
like
to
ask
a
question
about
a
clarification
paper
that
was
publicly
provided
through
our
website
and
obviously
to
the
state
government
as
well,
concerning
the
the
definitions
or
the
terminology
used
for
the
fourth
stage
of
the
Light
Rail
and
I
just
wanted
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee
and
those
listening.
If,
if
we
could
just
put
on
the
record
what
we
were
hoping
to
achieve
with
that
change
in
terminology
and
what
the
state
government's
response
was.
M
The
First
Amendment
sought
to
provide
clarification
that
stage
four
light.
Rail
wasn't
to
be
used
as
a
relevant.
Well,
what
could
be
concluded
as
a
relevant
matter
for
uplifting
planning,
height
density
and
zone
changes
before
Council
had
gone
through
and
done
the
land
use
planning
for
the
corridor.
It
would
have
been
a
similar
wording,
intent
to
what
it
already
sits
in
the
planning
scheme
for
investigation
areas,
which
says
that
they
are
to
remain
as
is
until
Council,
goes
through
and
does
their
localized
planning
investigations.
So.
M
Yeah
we
had
endeavored
to
strengthen
outcomes.
Having
said
that,
there
are
still
outcomes
in
the
current
planning
scheme
version
nine,
it's
just
that
we
had
tried
to
actually
be
quite
clear
and
concise
of
stage.
Four
Corridor
was
not
to
be
considered
as
a
an
option
for
uplifting
further
planning
Provisions
for
that
Corridor.
So.
M
C
M
Through
the
chair
correct,
it
like,
it
would
still
trigger
an
impact
application,
but
it's
then,
what's
considered
to
be
a
reasonable
matter.
There
has
been
development
industry
interest
in
the
fact
that
light
rail
is
coming
and
it
should
be
considered
as
a
relevant
matter
because
there's
going
to
be
a
Transit
Corridor,
but
having
said
that,
Council
still
needs
to
go
through
and
make
sure
the
land
use
and
infrastructure
planning
is
done
and
in
place
to
make
sure
that
these
communities
can
grow
as
they
should
right.
C
Now,
let's
imagine
a
future
when
the
minister
decides
to
listen
to
the
community
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
progress
further
changes
to
the
planning
scheme
when
that
future
future
planning
scheme
commences.
Would
it
be
fair
to
say
that
a
proponent
would
have
superseded
or
have
the
ability
to
apply
under
the
superseded
planning
scheme
to
take
advantage
of
the
earlier
more
liberal
treatment?
Yes,.
C
C
Okay,
so
sorry
right
so
so
today,
if
the
minister
actually
heeded
Community
feedback
and
adopted
our
changes,
there
would
be
effectively
a
seven
year
window
where
a
land
use
or
a
development
could
come
and
so
be
finalized.
What
have
you
under
the
existing
softer
provisions,
and
so
we've
got
seven
years
so
any
gap
between
now
and
a
future
planning
scheme?
A
Mean
the
state
had
the
state
interest
was
submitted
in
December
2021.,
so
it's
reasonable
to
suggest
that
the
minister
could
have
acted
promptly.
Rather
than
waiting
the
10
months.
There
would
have
always
been
delay
between
State
interests
being
granted
and
us
making
adopting
the
commencement.
So
it's
been
extract
polite
that
it
might
have
been
at
least
well
I
mean
at
the
moment.
We
we
don't
know
what
the
date
is.
M
R
Yeah
I
guess
three
of
you
Mr
chair,
so
the
if
we
receive
DA's
in
the
areas
where
the
new
rail
is
going,
there's
obviously
there'll
be
code,
accessible,
D.A
still
and
that's
sort
of
very
black
and
white.
Anything
above
anything
above
the
code,
accessible
thresholds
obviously
goes
into
that
impact
assessment,
which
is
where
the
other
relevant
matters
come
in.
R
So
if
there
is
some
direction
in
the
Strategic
framework,
that
would
certainly
assist
officers
too
there'd
be
more
regard
given
to
what's
in
the
scheme,
rather
than
what
potentially
might
come
and
what
sort
of
assumptions
some
people
might
make
in
relation
to
whatever
uplift
the
light
rail
might
give
so
certainly
be
helpful.
In
that
sense,
all
right
thanks.
H
P
C
H
D
H
That's
that's
not
defending
anyone
any
government
at
all,
but
it's
just
saying
I,
don't
just
single-mindedly
look
at
a
piece
of
paper
and
say:
there's
six
years
worth
of
work,
Bang's
gone
I'm,
sure,
there's
different
departments
that
he's
dealt
with
all
the
way
along
that
have
perhaps
expressed
concerns,
so
I
think
him
coming
alone,
isn't
really
going
to
achieve
it
a
lot.
But
if.
G
To
add,
but
so
to
me,
it's
actually
in
order
for
us
to
try
to
actually
get
a
good
outcome
and
get
it
quicker
than
what
we
would
otherwise
so
I
I,
actually
I,
don't
propose
it,
as
some
type
of
you
know
us
them
type
of
thing.
It's
actually
that
are
our
elephant
and
we're
just
the
mouse
in
the
whole
story.
G
So
if
they
want
to
come
down
and
tell
us
how
it's
going
to
be,
that
would
actually
be
really
helpful
rather
than
us
lose
another
12
or
so
months,
because
we
didn't
quite
get
it
so
and
and
in
terms
of
participation,
I
suppose
in
my
mind,
they
can
stay
as
long
as
they
want.
But
if
it's
just
introductory
remarks-
and
this
is
what
I
need
you
to
do-
that's
that's
at
least
the
start.
You
know
so,
but
to
me
it's
not
I
haven't
proposed
it
as
some
type
of
accounting,
political
foil.
G
D
A
A
S
S
Foreign
Mr
chair
I'd
just
like
to
present
the
minor
in
admin
9
for
the
changes
for
the
city
plan,
so
this
is
just
a
a
small
16
part
items
or
mapping
for
this
change.
This
report
just
seeks
endorsement
to
adopt
and
commence
this
package
for
the
next
version
of
the
city
plan,
which
would
commence
with
major
update
two
and
three
so.
A
S
Through
the
chair,
this
mapping
package
includes
generic
updates
to
the
city
plan,
which
includes
zoning
and
overlay
mapping
to
reflect
development
approvals
that
have
enacted
across
the
city
and
an
update
to
the
building
height
overlay
map
to
reinstate
the
spit
master
plan.
Hyatt
sensitive
area
across
the
entire
part
of
the
spit,
and
the
last
item
is
to
reflect
State
policy
mapping
for
the
Mining
and
extractive
resources,
and
we
have
directly
implemented
that
mapping
straight
into
our
extractive
resources
overlay
map.
S
G
So
cancel
the
guides
is
just
pointed
at
page
50
to
me,
which
is
the
city
plan.
Mapping
for
extractive
industry
at
oxenford.
Does
that?
What
exactly
is
that
change?
Because
the
original
introductions
that
the
city
received
in
2015
from
the
then
Deputy
Premier
senior
e
were
that
the
Kris
needed
to
be
reflected?
S
Through
the
chair,
we're
just
proposing
to
reflect
the
mapping
that
the
state
has
updated
in
2000,
2021,
sorry,
and
at
the
moment
we
are
just
going
to
use
that
data
that
they've
used
and
sorry
without
that
data.
We
are
just
inconsistent
with
the
state
mapping
to
implement.
This
is
just
to
correctly
in
tegrate.
G
M
M
We
do
through
other
albums
sorry
through
the
chair
through
other
overlays,
like
the
environmental
overlay.
The
way
we
portray
it
is
our
portrayal.
This
is
a
direct
implementation
of
the
state's
own
mapping
because
it
is
a
KRA.
We
haven't
chosen
to
go
and
do
our
own
work
to
further
Define
these
boundaries.
So.
G
A
D
B
Certified
as
an
ordinary
business
item
earlier,
hasn't
it
so
my
my
I'm
happy
to
say
what
my
conflict
is
and
it's
simply
with
the
consultant.
Arcadis
I
think
who
was
employed
by
the
oxenford
Quarry
or
was
it
planet?
Planet,
planet
I
think
I
mean
try
to
remember.
But
if,
if
it's
an
ordinary
business
item,
as
confirmed
earlier,
then
I'm
able
to
remain
in
the
room,
aren't
I.
J
G
The
challenging
part
we
have
is
that
the
a
previous
State
Minister
gave
a
direction
to
the
city
to
remove
a
buffer
which
we
did,
and
that
was
the
control
that
the
city
had
in
regards
to
allowing
for
mining
activity
to
happen
closer
than
it
had
ever
happened
in
regards
to
Residential
Properties,
and
we
had
no
choice
about
that,
because
it
was
a
ministerial
directive
in
regards
to
the
2016
City
plan.
My
question
is
in
regards
to
today:
do
we
have
a
choice
in
regards
to
these
proposed
amendments?
M
So
always
has
a
choice.
It
just
changes
the
process
because
we've
reflected
State
mapping.
We're
allowed
to
go
through
a
minor
amendment
process,
which
means
we
don't
have
to
go
to
public
consultation,
we're
reflecting
information
that
the
state
themselves
has
confirmed
and
uses
for
development
assessment.
If
we
choose
two
or
the
council
choosers
to
change
any
of
the
kras,
we
will
have
to
go
through
the
major
amendment
process.
G
So
I
know,
what's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
residents,
and
the
residents
is
to
actually
have
a
buffer,
that's
sensible
and
was
sensible
for
20
odd
years.
You
know
so,
and
the
fact
is
that
the
the
site
has
had
a
kri
that
was
previously
protected
by
a
buffer.
The
buffer
was
ordered
to
be
removed,
and
now
we're
affirming
a
KRA
which,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I,
would
need
to
see
what
the
difference
is
between
this
and
the
the
2016
Maps,
because
I
was
under
the
impression
that
the
2016
Maps
were.
G
The
ministerial
directive
was
that
it
had
to
reflect
the
then
KRA.
So
if
they
have
substantially
changed
the
footprint
to
make
it
even
bigger,
that's
a
bigger
problem
and
now
overlay.
The
only
overlay
that
we
had
left
to
protect
us
was
effectively
in
regards
to
the
visual
amenity
and
that
protected
the
ridge
line
which
pushed
them
back
so
up.
S
Is
that
the
one
there
yeah,
let's
see
so
the
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see,
but
the
the
purple
boundary
is
the
the
one
I'm
proposing
today
and
the
orange
over
the
top
of
that
Baker's
Ridge
Drive
down
on
the
southern
side.
That's
the
parts
that's
being
removed,
so
the
Orange
is
what
we
have
currently
in
version
nine
of
the
scheme.
G
G
Is
actually
a
different
thing,
so
I
so
I
can
accept.
Why
we're
doing
it
because
we're
reflecting
that
we
haven't
actually
moved
the
cut?
The
KRA
remains
as
per
the
2016
directions.
The
separation
error
is
being
reduced
to
reflect
built
form,
which
was
a
creation
of
a
court
order.
Okay,
thank
you
boom
and
then
I
don't
have
the
ability
to
ask
for
the
KRA
to
be
pushed
back
without
it
triggering
a
major
Amendment
which
isn't
the
isn't.
The
proposal
today.
S
In
this
case,
in
a
little
picture,
it's
quite
a
simple
one
and
we've
got
items
2
to
14
in
this
package
is
for
the
development
approval
completions,
where
we've
reflected
development
based
on
completed
development
in
a
lot
of
the
cases,
as
you
can
see
in
this
one,
it's
it's
purely
just
Council
owned
properties
where
we've
identified
them
as
either
open
space
or
conservation
or
a
special
purpose.
Zone.
S
D
G
To
Mr
chair
I
think
that
Property
Services,
in
conjunction
with
our
chief
investment
officer,
we're
doing
a
review
of
of
land
that
was
owned
by
the
city
and
I.
Think
it
would
be
useful
to
make
sure
that
a
body
of
work
that
they
are
doing
at
the
moment
isn't
going
to
be
impacted
in
regards
to
proposed
signing
changes
for
land
that
may
be
identified
as
having
a
a
freehold
status.
G
You
know
so
because
I
don't
know
what
I
think
they're
that
close
to
finishing
a
body
of
work
in
regards
to
some
of
our
Surplus
to
requirement
land
and
and
if
that's
an
example
of
change,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
impact
on
anything
that
they
might
be
cooking
through
or
either
eliminating
or
or
adding
to
particular
lists
that
they're
working
for
so
there
might
be
one
for
you
Nick
to
talk
directly
to
Jeff
in
regards
to
that.
But.
M
Through
the
chair,
that's
corrected
it
already.
It
reflects
current
development
approvals
that
have
been
commenced
and
concluded,
and
in
that
there
was,
it
would
have
been
a
lot
layout
plan,
of
which
a
lot
of
these
changes
reflect.
If
there
was
conditions
in
those
development
approvals
that
related
to
Rehabilitation
of
areas
or
and
dedication,
then
this
officers
have
we've
then
made
a
determination
of
well.
Is
it
more
appropriate
for
open
space
or
conservation
as
an
outcome
of
the
development
approval,
Council
yep.
G
So
if
we
look
at
the
whatever
that
street
is
with
the
green
lump
on
it
immediately
below
division,
three,
what's
that
streak
done,
B
Croft,
Street,
I,
don't
know
what
that
actually
looks
like
in
real
life.
You
know
and
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
somebody
with
exciting
ideas
about
what
the
city
land
portfolio
looks
like
has
identified
as
it
is
because
of
the
zoning,
regardless
of
any
development
approvals
or
conditions,
because
of
Designing
might
suddenly
think.
Oh,
that's
a
site
that
it's
worth
X
because
of
Designing.
G
You
know
so
well,
that's
the
process
that
they're
going
through
at
the
moment,
and
they
may
indeed
get
punched.
You
know
so,
but
I
suppose
the
the
whole
point
of
me
Rising.
It
is
just
to
make
sure
that
maybe
Nick
discusses
with
Jeff
to
make
sure
that
the
whatever
list
he's
cooking
up
reflects
the
the
decision
that
we're
going
to
make
today.
B
B
L
Through
the
chair,
so
these
were
these
are
basically
reflecting
development
approvals,
so
we
know
that
these
have
either
been
substantially
constructed
now
land's
been
dedicated
back
to
council,
so
the
zonings
reflect
the
intended
use
of
the
land,
and
you
know
with
those
questions
about
those
are
butting.
Those
blocks
that
would
have
had
to
be
matters
dealt
with
through
the
development
application.
Okay,.
S
C
A
S
Item
10
there's
a
little
bit
of
rural
residential
at
the
back
of
the
the
large
estate
there,
which
is
changing
it
to
medium
density.
Just
next
door.
We've
got
quite
a
bit
of
mixed
zoning,
going
on
just
to
accommodate
for
the
large
lot
Precinct
over
the
top
of
the
little
low
density
residential,
the
cul-de-sac
at
the
top
there
and
again
some
conservation
at
the
rear,
with
some
open
space
over
drainage.
S
S
J
On
the
Eastern
side
of
that
dotted
separation
area,
you
can
see
the
gap
between
properties
that
have
been
built
on
at
least
a
decade
ago.
It's
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
image
and
so
there's
a
gap
between
them
and
the
boundary,
which
seems
not
to
reflect
the
actual
developments
that
have
been
improved.
I,
don't
know
what's
in
that
strip,
I
think
would
probably.
J
F
S
G
G
C
A
Unfortunately,
the
technology
is
going
super
slow,
so
I
can't
get
the
exact
details,
but,
okay,
anything
else.
Any
other
questions
did
anyone
want
to
speak
to
it.
We'll
take
the
vote.
All
in
favor
cancel
Hamilton
on
Jones,
Council,
goats,
Council
or
O'neill
cancer,
Petey
young
Council
Pauline
young
cancer,
Hermann
Foster
Council
Caldwell
against
carried
unanimously.
A
State
departmental
houses
that
would
be
required
to
be
delivered
for
us
to
be
on
parity
with,
say,
Brisbane,
not
on
a
per
capita
basis
for
housing,
for
those
people
that
are
most
in
need
now.
I
have
had
a
couple
of
occasions
recently,
where
the
state
government,
to
their
credit,
have
obviously
identified
some
sites
that
could
be
developed
and
that
then
triggers
a
process
of
providing
council
with
a
notice
of
a
proposed
public
housing
development.
A
It's
very
important
that
this
that
our
Council
offices
in
their
response
actually
provide
the
appropriate
answer
to
the
state
government
and
that
let
that
requires
them
to
provide
an
answer
as
to
whether
it
is
substantially
in
conflict
or
words
to
that
effect,
that
it's
not
substantially
inconsistent
or
is
substantially
inconsistent
with
the
planning
scheme.
And
so
I've
got
one
version
of
this.
Where
the
response
talks
to
that
language
and
one
where
it
doesn't
one
where
it
would
appear
to
be
in
line
with
City
plan
and
one
where
it
doesn't
so.
A
I
would
like
to
see
us
have
a
report
brought
forward
which
talks
about
how
this
process
is
done
better
in
the
future,
particularly
so
that
there
isn't
an
opportunity
for
the
local
councilor
to
provide
comments
that
could
then
be
incorporated
into
the
state's
response
and,
secondly,
that
the
Community
have
this
information
available
to
them
and
because,
depending
on
a
certain
course
of
action,
it
may
mean
that
these
are
publicly
notified,
or
they
may
not
be
so.
I.
A
Think
it's
up
to
us
to
provide
the
level
of
transparency
to
make
sure
it's
available
to
our
community.
So
they're.
The
two
issues,
particularly
that
I,
wanted
to
cover
off
on
in
this
approach:
I'm
happy.
If
anyone
else
has
had
experiences
like
this,
where
there's
issues
that
we
could
add
to
that
list
of
improvements.
But
those
were
the
two
things
that
jumped
out
to
me
as
being
very
important
Council
on
Jones
and
councilor
vorster.
So.
G
I,
don't
recall
the
act
of
parliament
there's
an
act
of
Parliament
that
gives
an
exemption
to
for
Public
Works
in
and
I've
had
a
recent
example:
Council
colwellyn
Hope
Island,
where
a
private
supplier
used
that
exemption
to
enable
the
delivery
of
ndis
product,
which,
which
is
great
because,
as
councilor
McDonald
identified
earlier,
we
actually
need
to
make
sure
that
there's
something
for
everybody
in
the
in
the
city.
The
challenge
is
that
it
completely
ignored
our
city
plan
because
the
state
act
allowed
it
to
happen.
G
So
I
don't
have
it
on
me
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
it
was
a.
It
was
particular
Public.
Works
act
that
effectively
had
never
really
been
used,
been
able
to
be
used
by
a
for-profit
delivery
mechanism,
but
the
changes
to
the
Federal
Government
funding
of
the
ndis
game
effectively
opened
the
door
so
in
a
in
a
relatively
low
density
area,
with
two
stories:
there's
a
honking
big,
something
now
and
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
about
it
because
it's
completely
exempt.
G
In
fact
it
it
had
nothing
to
do
with
this
and
I
think
Council
Gates
raised
it
at
one
of
the
state
meetings
and
they
just
Shrugged
and
said
so,
be
it
so.
That's
I
think
an
example
of
where
this
could
be
added,
and
likewise
the
responses
from
Council
laws.
Forming
part
of
the
submission
is
useful
because
there
will
come.
There
will
be
probably
times
where
it
actually
makes
sense
that,
depending
on
the
product,
the
state
is
looking
to
develop
whether
or
not
it
is
affordable.
G
Housing
for
seniors,
for
example,
as
opposed
to
specific
juvenile
houses.
That
type
of
thing,
that's
that's
the
experience
that
I've
had
in
oxenford,
where
the
States
taken
private
rental
and
achieved
something
that
maybe
the
community
didn't
realize
that
they
were
going
to
do
so.
I.
Think
that
that's
the
balance.
G
A
O
I
happen
to
have
an
11
30
meeting
with
Minister
Leanne
Enoch
to
open
a
new
public
housing
site
in
Southport,
so
I'm
going
to
duck
off,
but
I
would
say
so
this
this
one
that
we're
opening
pretty
disappointing
visual
on
it
and
I
would
like
to
see
things
change
and
perhaps
not
look
like
that.
It
looks
like
it
wouldn't
take
too
much
for
them
to
consider
making
things.
Look!
Okay
for
the
area
as.
O
It's
open,
it's
open,
we're
about
to
go
open
it
on
the
corner
of
Smith
straighten.
You
agree,
and
my
only
other
concern
is
when
there
is
large
masses
that
that
that
the
states
looking
at
there's
some
small
involvement
that
we
have
kind
of
at
the
beginning
and
then
it's
opaque
and
we're
off,
and
even
the
offices
are
really
not
able
or
allowed
to
inform
me
of
what's
going
on.
That
seems
a
little
bit
odd
anyway.
I'm
out.
Thank.
C
Right,
Mr,
chairman
I
I,
just
want
to
I
think
pick
up
on
something
councilman
Jones
said
I
think
we
have
an
interest
in
attempting
to,
or
rather
I
think
we
have
a
role
in
trying
to
influence
the
state
government
to
secure
the
best
possible
design
and
amenity
outcome,
and
often
it's
not
about
opposing
social
housing
development,
but
just
trying
to
make
it
as
livable
as
possible,
because
I
think
there
is
a
race
to
the
bottom.
They
are
trying
to
deliver
these
things
as
cheaply
as
possible
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
compromises.
C
These
are
just
really
minor
issues
from
the
state
government,
but
the
Fallout
can
be
quite
significant
for
a
neighborhood
and
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
engage
local
councilors
so
that
we
can
point
out
some
of
these
issues
put
a
little
bit
of
pressure
on
the
state
government,
because
our
submissions
are
now
public
and
if
there
is
a
Fallout,
we
can
at
least
demonstrate
to
the
community
that
we've
done
our
job
as
local
Representatives,
trying
to
make
something
as
good
as
it
possibly
can
be.
C
I
don't
want
to
stuff
around
with
your
motion,
because
I
think
it's
a
really
good
one
but
I
think
there's
something
to
be
said
with
including
ministerial
infrastructure
designations
in
there,
as
well,
alongside
public
housing
developments.
You
see
this
with
schools.
You
know
schools
that
are
not
providing
sufficient
car
parking.
C
I.
Think
if,
if
we're
aware
of
an
mid-
and
we
note
that
hey
you're
not
providing
enough
car
parking
for
your
staff-
and
this
will
lead
to
issues,
it
would
be
useful
if
at
least
our
submission,
our
response
is
also
a
public
document
and
that
those
counselor
concerns
are
captured
as
well.
So,
like
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
move
an
amendment
or
anything
I'm.
A
C
A
B
In
addition
to
what
can
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
an
issue
that
I
have
at
the
kumara
special
school,
it's
only
officially
been
opened
this
year
and
I've
already
had
a
request
from
the
principal
for
Council
to
provide
more
parking
for
the
the
teaching
staff
is
apparently
grown.
Incredibly,
as
have
the
student
numbers
and
there's
nowhere
to
for
us
to
provide
extra
parking.
The
schools
developed.
They
don't
consult
with
us
for
their
plans
and
all
of
a
sudden.
Now
that
there's
traffic
chaos
in
what
is
a
cul-de-sac.
B
We're
left
trying
to
see
I've,
actually
written
back
and
suggested
that
they
get
the
state
down
to
see
if
they
can
reconfigure
the
newly
built
car
park
to
provide
a
drop
and
go
area
or
whether
there's
any
more
available
Landing
Galaxy
way
at
kumara
that
the
state
can
purchase
so
that
they
can
provide
the
the
right
amount
of
car
parking,
especially
at
a
special
school,
where
there
are
circumstances
that
require
extreme
safety,
for
the
people
being
delivered
to
that
school.
Okay,.
N
D
N
Know
how
we
have
the
developers
come
in,
they
do
all
their
little
red
dots.
You
know
about
all
these
developments
that
have
been
there.
This
high
would
would
that
have
a
major
flow
on
impact
on
future
developments
in
that
area
that
that
applicants
can
then
come
in
and
say
well,
look
you've
allowed
a
four-story
there
yeah.
A
A
I
I,
just
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
work
so
there's
a
whole
range
of
reasons
why
there
should
be
local
input
into
these
processes
and
a
strong
message
sent
that
the
people
who
live
in
these
houses
don't
deserve
to
have
to
go
through
some
different
or
lesser
standard
of
living
and
accessibility.
Just
because
it's
social
housing
that's
being
provided
they,
they
should
also
be
able
to
have
people
come
and
visit
them
and
park
comfortably
and
have
Services
provided
to
them
for
paths.
A
G
It
just
has
to
be
good
outcomes,
so
so
councilor
McDonald
started
today's
meeting,
referring
to
people
being
priced
out
of
suburbs
and
where
they
live.
The
state's
delivery
of
housing
stock
in
part
prevents
can
prevent
that
and
that
that's
a
good
thing
that
we
should
encourage
them
to
do.
They
just
need
to
do
the
right
thing
and
build
the
right
product
in
the
right
place.
A
Did
they
adhere
to
flood
levels
in
that
construction
in
krasnow?
They
were
exempt
so
I
mean
we
contemplated
a
small
unit
development
just
down
the
road
where
we
were
extremely
Vigilant
in
our
level
of
concern
and
attention
given
to
flood
levels
because
of
the
nature
of
the
that's
straight.
So
that
is
extremely
concerning
to
me,
so
it.
G
Cancel
the
call:
well,
it's
it's
well
on
its
way
to
being
finished.
So
maybe
next
time
you're
near
coombe,
Avenue
should
have
a
look,
because
it's
this
it's
out
of
character.
It's
this
thumping
big
thing
that
and
and
residents
just
can't
comprehend
that
it's
effectively
exempt
and
sell
and
it's
privately
certified.
G
B
A
I
think
we
appear
to
be
heading
in
the
direction
of
unanimous
support
for
this
outstanding
all
right.
Anyone
else
want
to
make
a
contribution,
we'll
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
against
this
card.
Oh
sorry,
I
moved
it.
I
had
moved
it
and
councilor
Peter
Young
had
seconded
it.
Sorry,
it's
not
on
the
screen.