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A
A
A
Whatever
we
can
we'll
just
go
through
all
others,
now
all
other
items-
6.1,
6.2
and
6.3-
have
a
presentation
available.
Should
the
councilors
want
it
other
than
that
we
can
just
go
through
the
agenda
and
decide
at
the
time
so
5.1
still
starred.
If
we
could
have
a
mover
moved
by
councilor
Taylor
seconded
by
councilor,
Owen
Jones,
all
those
in
favor,
that's
carried.
B
C
Daniel
mcnaught
who's
been
our
project
manager
for
the
hoppo
ferry
system,
amongst
other
public
transport
partnership
initiatives.
We've
had
for
the
last
we
well
doing
Sterling
job
so
then
he's
got
some
some
information
and
we're
happy
to
feel
questions
as
we
go.
Thank
you.
D
Awesome
thanks
through
the
chair.
Thank
you
Matt,
so
councilor.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
agenda
item
6.1
today,
which,
as
Matt
just
alluded
to,
is
an
update
in
relation
to
the
Gold
Coast
Ferry
expansion
and
the
investigations
undertaken
by
officers
is
that
working
all
good
yep
awesome.
D
So,
by
way
of
background,
this
agenda
item
has
come
about
in
as
a
result
of
a
council
resolution
from
council
meeting
around
815
earlier
this
year.
So
the
resolution
specifically
stated
that
Council
authorized
the
director
of
transport
and
infrastructure
to
work
in
partnership
with
the
current
contractor
to
investigate
the
merits
of
expanding
the
service
area
and
report
back
to
Council
in
December
2022
with
the
findings.
D
So
in
response
to
this
resolution,
Council
officers
have
undertaken
an
investigation
into
potential
areas
to
expand
their
service
to
and
as
well
as
that,
we've
also
engaged
with
the
service
provider
to
understand
their
thoughts
and
position
on
expansion
of
the
service.
So,
as
shown
on
the
screen
at
the
moment,
we've
identified
four
potential
areas
for
expansion.
D
So,
in
relation
to
our
investigations,
when
we
looked
at
the
southern
area
at
the
moment,
it's
not
possible
for
the
ferry
to
be
expanded
into
that
location,
because
the
Monaco
Street
Bridge
doesn't
have
the
necessary
clearance
for
the
ferry
to
travel
in
that
direction.
So,
unfortunately
it's
it's
not
an
option
at
present
to
travel
to
the
South
in
relation
to
the
West,
we
looked
at
potential
locations
to
have
future
stops
being
Carrara
markets,
Royal,
Pines
and
metricon
Stadium.
D
It
was
considered
that
these
locations
have
a
limited
demand,
particularly
on
the
basis
that
they're,
primarily
event
based
attractors.
So
in
terms
of
a
regular
service,
there
would
be
limited,
ongoing
demand
in
addition
to
that,
there's
also
a
long
travel
time
to
these
locations.
It's
approximately
55
minutes
going
six
knots
the
entire
way,
so
we
didn't
deem
it
to
be
feasible
and
and
appropriate
to
expand
to
this
location.
At
this
point
in
time,
in
relation
to
the
the
existing
service
Corridor,
we
looked
at
potential
pontoons
that
are
currently
within
the
existing
service.
D
Corridor
and
those
locations
are
proud,
Park
main
beach
near
the
Sundial
Bridge,
as
well
as
Stadium
Drive,
Main
Beach,
which
is
currently
under
construction
at
the
moment.
In
both
instances,
it
was
determined
that
these
locations
have
limited
ongoing,
regular
demand
at
the
moment
again,
because
they're
they're,
primarily
weakened
or
recreational
trips,
with
limited
demand
at
present
or
limited
density
in
that
location
for
passengers.
So
what
we
are
suggesting
is
that
those
locations
will
be
appropriate
at
the
moment
for
event
purposes
and
then
maybe
longer
term
down.
D
The
final
area
identify
sorry
investigated
was
to
the
north,
so
we
looked
at
three
potential
stops
at
Labrador,
near
Charis,
Seafood,
The,
Runaway,
Bay
shopping
center
and
then
Paradise
Point
when
looking
at
these
locations.
What
we
know
about
the
ferry
at
present
is
that
the
the
primary
trips
being
undertaken
are
tourist-based
and
recreational
based.
There's
a
limited
commuter
demand
at
this
point
in
time.
D
So
with
that
in
mind,
given
that
there
is
a
smaller
tourist
Market
in
this
area,
we
had
concerns
that
there
wouldn't
necessarily
be
a
lot
of
demand
to
expand
to
this
location
at
this
point
in
time.
D
D
So
in
conversations
with
the
service
provider,
their
position
at
this
point
in
time
is
that
their
focus
is
to
continue
building
momentum.
The
the
service
is
still
relatively
new.
It's
Sony
been
operating
for
approximately
three
years
and
and
has
been
significantly
affected
by
covert
during
that
time,
so
their
current
focus
is
on
continuing
to
build
patronage,
continuing
to
build
awareness
for
the
service.
D
So
with
that
in
mind
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
not
recommending
expansion
of
the
service,
we're
suggesting
that
the
focus
Beyond
continuing
to
grow
the
awareness
of
the
ferry
and
continuing
to
grow.
The
current
service
Corridor,
getting
the
patronage
numbers
up
even
higher
than
they
already
are,
and
then
reconsidering
expansion
of
the
service
in
the
future.
Upon
request
from
the
service
provider.
A
E
Thanks
through
Madam
chair,
when
does
the
contract
with
hoppo
end.
D
Through
the
chair
so
at
meeting
around
815
earlier
this
year,
we
were
endorsed
to
enter
into
a
new
contract
with
them,
and
so
we
have
recently
entered
into
a
new
contract
which
is
for
five
years.
Okay
with,
and
there
is
an
option
to
extend
yeah
cool.
E
I
just
I
note
that
obviously
some
of
it's
good,
but
it's
also
limiting,
because
we
can't
actually
really
affect
any
change
to
the
routes
without
their
agreement.
Is
that
the
way
it
works
basically
through
the
Checker,
and
also
that
they
have
exclusivity
over
the
route
like
no
other
commercial
operator,
can
use
the
same
stops
and
route
or.
C
Something
is
that
right,
team
membership,
my
understanding
of
Danny,
my
group
of
wrong
here-
is
that
they've
got
exclusive
use
for
commercial
activity
on
those
particular
stops.
There
are
other
areas
within
the
vicinity
of
the
the
service
area
that
we've
investigated,
that
we
could
investigate
another
provider,
but
where
the
the
actual
the
origin
destination
of
the
the
current
service,
apparently
is,
they
do
have
an
exclusive
commercial
contract.
There,
okay,
cool.
E
On
page
25,
where
it
says
the
projected
patronage
is
supported
by
findings
of
the
commuter
Ferry
trial
in
November
2021,
which
demonstrated
there
is
limited,
committed
demand
for
a
ferry
service
at
present,
with
it
being
primarily
used
for
tourists
and
recreational
purposes.
Now
that
that
comment
is
in
the
section
that
relates
to
the
northern
area,
but
was
that
comment
from
the
ferry
trial
relating
to
the
whole
of
the
service?
Or
did
it
specifically
relate
to
the
section
the
northern
section?
Is
that
like?
Is
it
an
overall
comment.
C
There
you
go
sorry
Danny.
Yes,
it
is.
E
Okay
and
then
I
had
one
more
question.
I
didn't
read
anywhere
in
the
report.
What
you
had
just
put
up
on
the
screen
about
the
fact
that
they
had
said
that
they
might
be
willing
to
do
it.
For
example,
if
there
was
a
capital
contribution
towards
vessels,
did
I
miss
that
or
is
it
not
in
there.
C
Three
manager
at
the
base
of
page
27
counselor,
there
were
there's
a
couple
of
dot
points
that
summarizes
what
Danielle
spoke
to
just
before.
E
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and
when
you're
looking
at
other
destinations,
I'm
talking
about
the
southern
route,
Via
Roma,
some
of
those
areas
I
mean
were
those
particular
points.
Looked
at
and
and
I'm
looking
at
the
potential
of
locals
that
actually
got
access
to
the
service.
D
C
C
Really
the
feedback
we've
had
from
the
current
providers
are
there
any
any
expansion
at
the
moment
will
trigger
their
their
performing
really
well
given
circumstances
over
the
past
number
of
months,
if
not
year
or
two
I,
don't
think
we
would
completely
write
off
an
opportunity
at
a
point
in
the
in
the
future,
if
you're
not
too
distant
future,
where
they
might
be
out
in
a
position
where
we
can
contemplate
an
expanded
service
within
some
of
the
options
that
that
Daniel
Sam
documented
through
the
report
in
the
presentation,
perhaps
for
events,
it
might
be
a
gradual
evolution
of
the
an
expanded
service
initially,
as
opposed
to
a
a
substantial
system.
G
Madam
Cheryl
is
this
interested,
so
there's
a
bit
of
a
breakdown
on
page
28.
That's
got
some
trip
data
and
it's
averaged
it
out
to
per
month
and
per
day,
but
it
was
just
interested
if
the
officers
could
tell
me
what
what
the
numbers
looked
more
like
Monday
to
Friday
versus
on
the
weekends.
D
Foreign
I
don't
have
that
data
on
me
at
the
moment,
so
I'd
have
to
I'd
be
guessing
if
I
was
to
say
something.
Weekdays
are
certainly
popular
times
for
the
service.
So
it's
not
the
standard,
commuter
Peak
periods
that
we're
seeing
with
the
ferry
we're
seeing
weekday
trips
are
very
popular
because
of
the
recreational
element
and
tourist
element
of
it
as
well,
so
weekdays,
certainly
busy
off
peak
and
then
obviously
weekends
as
well.
Sundays
are
certainly
a
busy
day
for
the
service.
Also.
G
C
Sweet
man
Chad
thanks
Danny
It's,
a
combination,
counselor
It's,
a
combination
of
of
visitors
who
are
residents
of
the
city
who
are
using
it
as
a
an
experience
that
they
might
have
had
before
as
well.
So
the
the
only
little
data
from
the
operator
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
Gold
Coast
residents
using
I.
Think
in
815,
Danny
I
think
we
gave
up
an
overview
where,
whereby
there's
a
there's,
a
fair
proportion
of
non-city
visitors,
but
there's
also
quite
a
high
number
of
Gold
Coast
residents
using
it
for
non-communic
recreational
purposes.
As.
G
E
E
Okay,
I've
got
an
alternate
resolution,
Madam
chair,
which
I
don't
know
where
I
send
that
to
these
days
to
what's
the.
E
Yeah
so
when,
when
the
time
comes,
Madam
chair,
if
I
could
speak,
Twitter
I
just
wouldn't
mind
us
tracking
numbers
a
bit
more
closely
and
earlier
than
the
five
years
is
one
of
the
actions
and
I
think
it's
also
important
that
at
this
point
in
time,
we
record
some
of
the
reasons
to
explain
to
the
community.
Why
there's?
No?
No
expansion
and
fair
enough
there's!
You
know
feasibility
issues
about
bridges
and
what
have
you?
E
But
the
other
thing
is
that
we
just
need
to
accept
that
this
is
currently
being
successful
as
a
tourist
operation,
not
as
a
commuter
operation.
So
I
know
that
there
was
a
great
deal
of
anticipation
in
the
north
of
the
city
that
this
might
lead
to
something
more
expansive,
but
it
clearly
is
not
going
to
be
in
the
short
term.
So
basically,
the
words
on
the
screen
are
something
along
the
lines
of
what
I'd
like
to
move.
If
we,
if
you're,
when
you're,
ready
to
accept
motions.
A
E
Yeah
I'll
speak
to
it
briefly,
even
though
I
just
sort
of
gave
a
prelim
speaking
to
it.
Obviously,
it's
a
little
bit
disappointing
that
the
ferry
trial
hasn't
got
us
to
a
point
where
we
can
expand
the
network,
both
within
the
existing
footprint
and
further
afield.
E
I
would
rather
enough
so
I've
suggested
that
we
come
back
say
in
12
months
time
and
I,
don't
know
whether
the
officers
have
a
view
on
you
know
whether
at
that
time,
we'll
just
be
able
to
do
a
quick
desktop
analysis
of
what
the
numbers
are.
What
it's
looking
like,
are
we
tracking
better?
Are
we
tracking?
Worse,
so
that
we
have
a
journey
that
we
can
go
on
as
far
as
the
life
of
this
particular
sort
of
Transport
option
is
concerned.
So
that's
the
the
basis
of
what
I'm
trying
to
achieve
here
today.
A
Actually,
that's
not
such
a
bad
idea,
because
we've
had
two
years
of
covert
data
as
such,
where
there
is
a
lot
of
change
conditions
within
the
city
and
I
think
if
we
can
get
a
year
or
two
years
or
going
forward
data
that
is
more
business
as
usual,
but
then
we'll
be
able
to
make
future
decisions.
So.
C
A
three
minute
share.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
I
think
I.
Just
wonder
whether
the
council
would
would
like
to
an
update
less
outside
of
a
report
and
update
on
the
performance
of
some
of
our
can
I
say
a
public
transport
partnership.
So
we've
got
the
we've
got
the
bike
High
scheme
as
well,
we're
about
to
have
the
northern
bus
service
and
Improvement
initiative
as
well.
So
we've
got,
we've
got
some
can
I,
say
some.
C
Some
well
thought
through
skinning
the
game
with
some
public
transport
offerings
throughout
the
city.
At
the
moment,
I
wouldn't
be
unhappy
about
bringing
to
look
not
that
we
did
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
an
update
every
six
months,
12
months,
depending
on
what
your
appetite
is
for
around
the
performance
of
some
of
those
elements
of
our
public
transport
system,
to
HT
view
conference,
that
we
are
getting
value
for
money
for
our
investment
in
the
these
schemes
and
and
that
they
are
achieving
the
desired
outcomes
that
we
set
out
to
achieve
with
those.
C
A
Foreign
I
think
that'd
be
a
great
idea
because
it's
we
are
all
speaking
the
actors,
transport
initiatives
within
the
city
and
also
with
that
I've
seen
Daryl
come
to
you
and
we've
seen
all
of
the
conversation
around
the
Light
Rail
and
how
we're
we're
looking
at
that
style
of
things.
So
I
think
you
know
with
our
bikes
and
and
all
those
other
schemes
coming
forward,
that
it's
actually
good
that
we're
all
over
that.
So
yeah
I
think
I'd
appreciate
that
and
I
think
the
rest
of
the
councilors
would
too.
H
What
we
might
have
a
think
about
chair
is
actually
bringing
together.
We've
got
the
state
of
the
network
presentation
coming
to
the
next
committee
and
actually
trying
to
bring
some
of
that
stuff
together.
So
we
have
the
different
components.
So
we'll
do
this
one
separately,
Matt
and
then
I
think
maybe
we'll
try
and
bring
them
together.
Ongoing.
F
You
and
obviously
the
feel,
is
how
can
our
locals
use
this
service
moving
forward,
but
it
does
go
to
Surfers
Paradise
as
an
area
where
we
do
have
residencies
or
a
way
that
we
can
understand
who's
using
it.
Let's
say:
service,
Paradise,
4217
and,
if
they're,
using
it
for
public
or
tourists,
so
that
we
can
get
an
understanding
of
the
people
that
have
got
access.
Is
it
being
used
for
that
particular
Transport
service.
C
C
You
know
finger
of
the
pulse
around
the
demographic
and
the
user
group,
West,
repeat
users
and
you
users
and
whatnot,
so
as
part
of
whether
it's
part
of
the
state
of
the
network
report
or
at
a
point
in
time
soon
thereafter,
where
we
might
be
able
to
give
the
committee
a
bit
of
a
cross-section
of
of
those
user
groups
and
the
user
types
and
whatnot
it's
again,
it's
it's
the
type
of
metrics
that
are
of
interest
to
me
and
to
something
to
Daniel
as
well
around.
C
You
know
that
not
just
the
customer
sentiment,
but
also
the
the
repeated
use,
the
new
use,
the
the
way
in
which
we
can
sharpen
our
below
the
lawn
marketing
of
these
great
products
to
make
sure
that
we
are
tapping
into
new
user
groups
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
We
can
certainly
ask
the
question
of
Hopper
about
what
information.
What
data
they
collect
and
and
what
they
are
I
guess
happy
for
us
to
share
with
the
committee.
You
know
perhaps
maybe
in
a
closed
session.
C
Maybe
if
there's
some
some
data
in
there
that
there
is
quite
granular
by
its
nature,
but
certainly
we
use
that
information
in
the
partnering
meetings
that
we
have
with
hopper
and
some
of
our
other
public
transport
providers,
providers
to
try
and
show
up
in
that
marketing
and
make
sure
it's
it's
tapping
into
we've
got
sustained
usage
from
customers,
but
we
also
got
new
customers
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
Thank
you.
I
Okay,
so
through
you
I'm,
not
too
sure
if
it's
in
the
suggested
report
of
the
state
of
the
network,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
get
as
much
data
from
the
state
government
in
regards
to
their
public
transport
networks
as
well,
because
I
think
this
report,
talks
of
150
or
160
daily
trips
on
hoppo,
clearly
at
pales
into
insignificance
in
regards
to
the
volume
of
people
using
light,
rail
and
bus
and
so
I
think
it's
important
that
we
don't
get
too
bogged
down
on
the
peripheral
in
regards
to
the
transport
options.
A
Counselors
so
change
recommendations
then
moved
by
councilor
call
was
seconded
by
councilor
Peter
Young,
all
those
in
favor
that's
carried
unanimously.
Thank
you.
A
C
Somebody
I'll
introduce
you
to
Daniel
three-man,
chair
Daniel's,
many
hats,
but
certainly
these
are
two
projects
we
thought
we'd
give
them
a
double
treat
today:
two
projects
that
Daniel's
been
working
very
hard
on
for
the
last
period
of
time.
C
So
we
do
have
a
brief
presentation
to
explain
some
further
detail
that
that
we
thought
might
have
been
a
little
bit
too
granular
for
the
actual
report,
but
we're
certainly
happy
to
if
you,
with
your
blessing
for
Daniel,
to
go
through
those
slides
and
then
for
to
accept
any
questions
and
have
a
discussion
after
there.
Thank
you.
D
So
the
purpose
of
this
project
is
to
review
off-street
car
parking
rates
prescribed
in
the
city
plan.
So
when
we're
referring
to
off
street
car
parking
rates,
we're
talking
about
the
number
of
car
parks
that
a
developer
is
required
to
provide
when
submitting
a
development
application
to
council
under
the
city
plan.
So
councilors.
D
D
What
we're
determining
the
situation
paper,
which
is
the
the
first
deliverable
of
stage
one
of
this
project,
so
the
situation
paper
is
essentially
a
detailed
review
and
Analysis
of
all
existing
car
parking
rates
under
the
city
plan,
so
for
each
land
use
with
the
idea
being
that
we
would
have
a
set
of
recommendations
for
each
land
use
following
that
review,
so
the
situation
paper.
What
we
have
asked
our
consultant
to
do
is
essentially
they've
broken
down
all
land
uses
into
they've
placed
them
into
one
of
three
categories.
D
The
second
category
is
that
there's
certain
land
uses
that
require
further
work,
which
we
propose
to
do
in
the
form
of
parking
surveys
as
part
of
stage
two
and
then
finally,
their
third
category
is
that
there's
a
group
of
land
users
that
don't
require
any
change
based
on
the
review
undertaken
so
where
we
are
at
is,
as
shown
on
the
screen
here
in
relation
to
land,
uses
that
we're
recommending
rate
changes
to
without
any
further
work
required.
D
D
How
did
the
existing
rate
compare
with
existing
data
that
we
have
available
for
that
specific
land
use?
And
then?
Thirdly,
how
did
it
compare
with
known
issues
that
we
have
locally
here
on
the
Gold
Coast?
Did
the
rate
appropriately
address
any
of
those
issues
that
we
have
so
we've
identified
six
that
we
are
recommending
at
this
point
in
time
that
can
be
changed
without
any
further
work.
D
So
in
relation
to
further
work
required,
so
what
we've
identified
is
that
there's
14
land
uses
that
we're
suggesting
further
work
is
needed
to
be
undertaken
for
which
we're
proposing
in
the
form
of
car
parking
surveys.
I
won't
go
into
all
14,
but
some
of
the
land
uses
of
note
that
you'll
be
interested
to
hear
about
is
multiple
drillings.
D
It
has
been
identified
as
a
land
use
to
undertake
parking
surveys
for
so
we're
suggesting
there
may
be
potential
to
increase
the
existing
rate,
but
we
would
like
to
get
some
data
to
verify
what
what's
currently
happening
and
then
what
will
be
appropriate
so
other
land
uses
of
note,
based
on
some
of
the
engagement
that
we've
undertaken
with
yourselves.
So
we've
got
educational
establishments
in
their
Primary,
School,
high
schools,
food
and
drink
outlets
and
then
over
the
page
as
well.
Child
care
centers
are
also
included
as
well,
so.
D
So
again,
these
land
uses
we're
proposing
to
untake
surveys,
for
which
suggests
that
the
rate,
either
we
didn't
have
enough
information
to
determine
that
the
existing
rate
is
working
and
appropriate,
and
so
we
want
to
get
more
data
to
verify
that
in
the
form
of
parking
surveys.
D
So
just
in
closing
quickly.
The
next
steps
for
the
project
from
here
is
that
we're
going
to
go
and
collect
parking
surveys
for
those
14
land
users
that
we've
identified
for
the
work
needs
to
be
undertaken
for,
and
we've
also
identified
that
there's
an
another
package
of
further
work
relating
to
the
Southport
PDA,
the
center
zones
and
the
transport
Hub.
D
So
at
present
there
was
limited
demand,
so
limited
data
relating
to
the
rates
that
are
applicable
in
those
locations,
and
so
we've
suggested
that
a
that
a
separate
package
of
work
will
be
undertaken
to
to
have
a
bit
of
a
closer
look
at
those
rates
specifically
and
then.
Finally,
once
that
works
undertaken,
I'm
going
to
keep
going,
keep
going
sorry
I'll
be
10
seconds.
D
So
once
we've
collected
the
parking
survey
data
and
undertaken
that
final
review
relating
to
the
transport
Hub
information,
we'll
then
kick
into
stage
three
of
the
project,
which
is
to
develop
a
final
recommendations
paper
which
will
have
all
land
uses
and
a
final
recommendation
attached
to
that
which
is
proposed
for
late
next
year.
Early
2024.
J
J
So
I
remember
this
plan
and
I
talk
about
this
plan
quite
a
bit
with
my
community,
particularly
you
know,
in
light
of
council's
decision
to
dispose
of
Bruce
Bishop.
J
What
I've
attempted
to
do
was
to
provide
some
confidence
to
the
community
that,
at
least
with
respect
to
private
development,
that
we'd
be
taking
steps
to
provide
more
car
parking
off
Street,
and
that's
why
the
tombow
in
anticipation,
what
could
happen
with
Bruce
Bishop
I,
was
happy
to
support
the
city
parking
plan,
but
I
must
admit.
When
I
read
that
action
item,
it
says
here
undertake
a
review
of
the
city
plan
transport
code
to
identify
opportunities
for
improving
the
provision
of
off-street
car
parking
within
developments.
J
At
no
time
did
I
contemplate
that
we
would
have
a
body
of
work
or
a
report
that
would
suggest
decreasing
in
any
way
the
provision
of
car
parking
off
street
car
parking
within
developments.
My
now
could
be
wrong.
Maybe
my
colleagues
have
got
a
different
interpretation
than
I
had
to
have,
but
I'm
very
for
my
own
sake,
very
troubled
that
what
was
a
very
narrow
action
item
in
the
city
parking
plan
was
read
so
liberally.
J
I
would
have
much
preferred
to
see
City
officers
focus
on
through
the
engagement
with
counselors,
identifying
those
land
uses
where
we
know
there's
insufficient
car
parking
and
to
focus
on
addressing
those
as
quickly
as
possible.
J
Now,
that's
not
to
say
that
there
are.
You
know
that
there
aren't
sensible
things
that
we
should
be
doing
in
our
child
care.
Centers
I
think
we've
talked
in
the
past.
Have
there
been
some
over
provision,
but
I
would
never
have
thought
that
we
would
have
had
a
body
of
work
that
would
have
contemplated
reductions
because
I
would
have
deemed
that
out
of
scope.
J
Also
think
it's
concerning
on
the
back
and
I
could
be
completely
wrong
here.
Colleagues,
but
many
of
us
are
familiar
with
parts
of
the
Gold
Coast
where
there
is
a
chronic
under
supply
of
off-street
car
parking
and
I
I,
don't
know
how
many
times
I've
banged
on
about
Varsity
Lakes
and
the
issues
there
I
feel
like
I'm
like
Daphne
with
Palm
Beach,
or
you
know,
Donna
with
narrow
streets
and
pimpama
or
now
Mark
or
whatever
it
is
or
Cameron
with
boat
ramps.
J
You
know
very
concerning
that.
There
appears
foreshadowed
in
the
report
an
appetite,
almost
a
presumption
to
look
at
reducing
the
supply
of
off-street
car
parking
in
these
areas.
I
think
nerang,
bundled
certainly
Varsity
Lakes
jumped
at
my
and
jumped
off
the
page.
To
me
when
to
go
back
to
the
slide,
the
direction
was
undertake
a
review
of
the
city
plan
transport
code
to
identify
opportunities
to
imp
for
improving
the
provision
of
off-street
car
parking
within
development.
J
C
Three
Madam
chair,
I,
read
that
literally
and
it's
improving
the
provision,
so
the
highest
and
best
use
of
space
in
the
city
is
not
to
have
empty
car
parks.
Around
developments
where
we
know
we
don't
need
the
demand
there.
So
I
take
your
points.
C
Council
of
also
they're,
all
very
well
made
I've
supported
the
officers
through
this
process
in
in
creating
a
very
strong,
evidence-based
based
on
land
use
and
based
on
geography
within
the
city,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
yourselves
and
and
your
constituents
and
our
colleagues
in
in
epe
with
conference
that
we
that
we
know
we
know
a
lot
more
than
what
we
did
historically
about
the
provisions
within
the
transport
code.
C
To
make
sure
we
were
trying
to
marry
up
likely
demands
based
on
evidence
of
what
those
land
uses
and
places
within
the
city
were
and
are
based
on
the
type
of
provision
for
that
off
Street
space.
Now
the
the
the
balance
of
that
action,
if
I
can
just
draw
council's
attention
to
the
community's
attention
to
that,
is
it
also
says,
and
to
optimize
the
utilization
of
adjacent
on-street
parking
space
during
the
application
approval
process.
C
So
this
is
where
the
guys
have
had
to
be
Smart
in
managing
the
scope
of
this
piece
of
work,
because
it
does
look
at
the
off
Street
rates
and
it
does
look
based
on
the
type
of
land
use
and
some
of
these
types
of
land
use
that
we're
dealing
with
through
the
day
process
now
I
understand
with
working
with
Roger
and
the
team
in
City
development
they
are,
they
are
not
traditional
land
users.
C
Some
of
them
are
land
users
that
have
emerged
over
time
and
they
are
surfing
the
definition
of
what
is
historically
been
part
of
our
planning
scheme,
so
I
I
can't
but
support
the
team
and
Danny
and
Nick
and
the
team
to
make
sure
that
we're.
We
are
trying
to
develop
a
body
of
evidence
to
provide
the
committee
with
with
what
we
believe
is
the
right
solution,
as
opposed
to
what
could
be
perceived
to
be
an
oversupply
or
under
Supply,
based
on
certain
types
of
land
use
certain
jobs
within
the
city.
C
It's
my
role
and
I
hope
it
still
is
my
role
to
make
sure
that
I
provide
you
with
that
informed
decision,
so
that
we
can
have
a
conversation
at
committee
that
that
contemplates
those
and
best
use
of
space
within
the
city,
knowing
that
car
parking
does
take
up
an
extraordinary
amount
of
space
in
the
in
the
city.
Madam.
J
Chair
I
humbly
submit
very
humbly
because
I
I'm
only
one
person
sitting
around
this
table
and
only
one
person
in
the
chamber
but
I
humbly,
submit
that
valuable
City
officer
time
is
best
directed.
J
J
My
feeling,
my
understanding
at
the
time
is
that
that's
where
your
time
was
going
to
be
focused.
It
is
your
role
as
far
as
I
understand
to
provide
that
Frank
fearless
and
comprehensive
advice
that
allows
us
to
make
fully
informed
decisions,
but
it's
also
our
role
to
direct
how
your
time
is
spent
by
Council
resolution
and,
in
my
mind,
that's
that's
where
it
should
have
been
Madam
chair.
My
second
question
just
relates
to
the
use
of
a
consultant
and
I.
C
C
Again
through
a
competitive
tender
process
based
on
a
request
for
proposal,
it
was,
it
was
I
think
for
Mary
Daniel.
It
was
a
fairly
standout
proposal
in
terms
of
value
for
money,
but
also
immediately
available
intelligence
that
this
particular
consultant
was
able
to
apply
to
the
process
from
both
looking
at
from
both
a
a
public
transport.
If
I
can
say
not
public
transport,
but
public
transport
system
utilization
perspective,
but
also
from
a
a
development
industry
perspective
as
well.
So
so.
J
Madam,
chair,
I,
suppose
my
follow-up
question
is
this:
my
personal
view
is
that
the
property
development
sector
for
purely
commercial
interests,
basically
torpedoed
City
plan
Amendment
package,
two
and
three
in
their
entirety.
That's
my
sense
of
it
because
they
had
overwhelming
vested
interests
in
maximizing
their
the
development
yield
on
behalf
of
their
clients
and
quite
often
as
a
community
representative
I'm
left
with
the
job
of
unscrambling,
an
egg
where
those
developers
have
used
their
rights
under
the
city
plan
to
push
ahead
with
certain
development
outcomes.
J
J
C
If
you
don't
mind
just
to
just
to
back
in
my
response
to
I'm
aware
that
the
the
consultant
was
engaged
to
do
a
myriad
of
things,
including
Benchmark,
with
other
local
government
areas
with
industry
best
practice,
both
locally
regionally,
nationally
et
cetera
and
so
on,
collect
data
to
verify
or
validate
the
in
benchmarking
industry,
best
practice
for
the
Gold
Coast
context
to
then
work
with
us
as
a
project
team,
Daniel,
neck
et
cetera
and
so
on,
to
form
an
opinion
about
how
best
to
take
forward
the
marriage
of
Industry
best
practice
with
the
Gold
Coast,
the
unique
characteristics
of
the
Gold
Coast
land
use
some
transport
system.
C
So
so
a
combination
of
what
I
think
what
you've
said.
Council
of
Austin
was
what
they
were
engaged
to
do.
We
also
have
a
an
internal
project
governance
system,
where
we
do
work
closely
with
epe
to
make
sure
that
we
are
tapping
into
the
intelligence
that
that
epe
does
have
with
regard
to
the
the
trends
in
the
development
industry
as
well.
So
I'd
like
to
think
through
the
work
that
the
project
team
has
done,
is
that
we've
tried
to
cover
as
many
bases
as
possible.
H
H
I
think
there
was
a
decision
and
everyone
was
comfortable
with
the
methodology
about
looking
at
each
of
the
individual
land
uses
and
obviously,
at
this
point
we've
come
to
a
situational
paper
and
there
are
a
couple
that
are
surprisingly
decreasing,
but
at
the
moment
that
is
a
situational
paper.
From
my
perspective,
we've
now
got
to
do
some
more
work
on
the
evidence-based
components
and
then
absolutely
we'll
be
coming
back
with
a
recommendation
that
should
be
alleviating
those
concerns
and
related
relying
on
Consultants.
J
Caution
any
process
to
take
us
down
the
path
of
potential
reductions
in
the
provision
of
off-street
car
parking
without
properly
getting
a
sense
of
where
the
elected
officials
may
be
not
because
when
the
chamber
might
scuffer
the
you
know
the
progression
of
this
work,
but
rather
because
amending
the
transport
code
requires
an
amendment
of
The
planning
scheme
and
ultimately
will
demand.
Community
consultation
and
I
I
can't
imagine
yeah.
J
Think
it's
really
important
that
city
offices
recalibrate
their
appetite
to
look
at
reductions,
because
it
could
be
that
your
valuable
time
is
spent
on
an
update
to
the
transport
code,
which
is
not
ultimately
supported
by
the
public
and
therefore
canned
at
the
end
of
the
process,
when
we've
got
so
much
other
work
to
be
done
with
sorting
out
the
city
plan.
But
my
last
question
is
about
lawn
bowls.
J
This
is
one
where
I'd
probably
say:
there's
probably
no
case
or
need
to
increase
them
only
because
my
local
bolo
is
struggling,
it
is
absolutely
struggling
and
it's
on
its
knees
and
I
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
careful
with
developments,
particularly
Community
developments
like
your
community
centers
and
all
the
rest
that
provide
vital
social
infrastructure
in
our
communities,
making
it
more
expensive
and
difficult
for
them
to
function
and
be
sustainable
and
I.
Suppose
that
that's
a
caution
and
I'd
just
like
to
get
a
sense
of
what
may
have
driven
that
was.
J
D
Through
the
chair,
so
for
that
specific
land
use,
it
came
down
to
again
reviewing
those
three
criteria
that
we
mentioned.
So
comparing
with
other
councils
looking
at
existing
demand
data
that
we
had
available
for
that
land
use
and
then
based
on
information
and
feedback,
we
got
through
the
stakeholder
engagement
process
so
specifically
for
that
land
use.
We
are
proposing
a
minor
increase
based
on
a
comparison
with
the
other
councils,
as
well
as
some
demand
data
that
we
had
available
as
well.
J
Sorry,
madam
chair
I,
really
apologize
for
this
can
I
just
get
a
sense,
maybe
you're
across
it,
but
when
we
do
a
comparison
with
other
local
governments,
are
we
attempting
to
meet
the
average
of
the
other
local
governments
or
are
we
attempting
to
meet
the
the
highest
rate
amongst
those
local
governments?
So
I
appreciate
we're
trying
to
do
a
comparison,
but
having
done
the
comparison,
where
are
we
trying
to
land
in
the
Spectrum?
C
If
I
think
you've
met
too
much
I
enter
in
a
macro,
sense,
Daddy
and
then
I'll.
Let
you
answer
it
specifically
for
this
one.
When
we
Benchmark,
we
Benchmark
regularly
counselors
with
other
councils,
not
to
not
to
cut
and
paste,
but
to
see
how
the
other
councils
have
evolved.
Their
policy
Frameworks
in
line
with
their
say
in
this
instance,
off-street
parking
policy
Frameworks
in
along
with
their
broader
either
transport
strategy,
designed
outcomes
or
or
other
elements
of
their
transport
policy
framework,
as
well,
so
in
in
a
roundabout
way.
C
We
don't
we
don't
look,
there's
always
a
range
there's,
always
a
range
Council.
There's
some
councils,
some
local
governments
are
more,
should
we
say
more
aggressive
with
their
policy
interventions.
Some
are
more
passive,
so
we
certainly
don't
I
think
we
look
at
the
Beyond
just
the
metric
and
see
how
it
marries
up
with
their
with
their
transfer
policy
the
scale
of
their
city
as
well.
We
certainly
don't
just
look
up
the
road.
We
look
into
State.
C
We
look
at
other
seq
councils
and
other
Regional
councils
in
particularly
near
swells,
Victoria
and
and
up
the
coast
as
well.
So,
from
a
macro
point
of
view,
councilors,
we
we
look
at
it
Beyond,
just
the
metric
of
the
actual
Benchmark
we
look
at
tomorrow.
It
marries
up
with
their
broader
transport
policy
and
how
that
how
consistent
or
inconsistent
that
is
with
there
with
our
transport
strategy
as
well.
I've
looked
at
Danny
now,
with
this
specific
example,.
D
It's
probably
easiest
to
say
it
was
we
looked
at
all
10
and
we,
if
they
were
saying
average
we'd,
understand
how
our
rate,
compared
with
that
average.
If
we
were
in
the
higher
end
of
the
spectrum,
if
we
were
at
the
lower
end
and
that
helps
us
then
understand
how
we
compare.
J
D
Not
attempting
to
meet
the
average
so
I
think
it
helped
us
understand.
If
we,
if
there
was
an
average,
are
we
above
the
average
under
the
average
to
help
us
that
that
just
then
helped
us
understand
how
we
met
that
criteria
or
how
we
compared
in
that
one
criteria.
So
if
we
were
high
that
might
suggest
that
that's
something
we
need
to
look
at
more
if
we
were
low
that
suggests
that
something's
off
and
we
need
to
have
a
closer
look
at
this
rate.
H
C
34
of
here
Jenna
thanks
Danny,
there's
a
number
of
things
that
I
do
want
to
be
in
scope
eventually
for
this
project.
So
this
is
like
I
said.
This
is
another
piece
of
work
that
will
progressively
be
attacked
over
the
next
12
plus
months
around
the
emergence
of
these
or
the
the
often
unique
characteristics
of
off
street
car
parking
space,
and
you
see,
there's
about
10
or
so
dot
points
there
around
things
that
for
now
on
page
34.
Thank
you,
yeah.
C
We've,
we've
consciously
put
to
the
side
for
now
to
try
and
get
the
land
use
and
the
geography
of
the
city
evidence
in
place.
So
we
can
put
those
initial
thoughts
forward
and
then
we
can
start
approaching
some
of
these
more
detailed
elements
at
a
future
point
in
time,
hopefully
not
too
far
away.
D
H
You
it
does
seem
quite
different
to
all
the
rest
of
those
that
are
out
of
scope,
though,
which
is
it
actively
right
now
is
defined
as
a
car
space
for
a
car
in
the
city
plan.
None
of
those
other
out
of
scope
points
are,
but
the
reality
is
I,
don't
know
what
the
percentage
is,
but
people
do
not
use
it
to
the
same
capacity
as
the
double,
so
it
I
mean
I
get.
Why
that
all
those
others
are
there
as
an
out
of
scope,
I
don't
get.
E
C
Can
I
think
what
we
might
do,
Council
Street,
eventually
I,
don't
disagree
with
what
you're
saying
and
we've
got
Australian
standards
Frost
Street
spaces
that
we
that
we
need
to
to
head
to
as
well
as
28
90.2
I
think
it
is
so
we
need
to
be
aware
of
what
our
ability
is
to
disallow
certain
layouts
of
off-street
car
parking
spaces
through
this
piece
of
work.
So
if
you
don't
mind
it,
if
you
can
tell
the
question,
though,
the.
E
Only
reason
I
say
that
is
because,
specifically
on
that
point,
I'm
sorry,
madam
chair,
for
skipping
the
queue,
but
it's
on
this
point
I
think
the
solution
that
I
had
suggested
was
that
maybe-
and
this
goes
directly
to
the
rate
of
parking
provided-
not
the
configuration
and
the
dimensions
in
this
Australian
standards-
it's
about
okay.
Well,
maybe
a
tendon
Park
should
only
count
for
0.5
a
park
now
to
me
that
is,
should
be
directly
feeding
into
this
work,
not
sitting
outside
it.
E
K
D
So,
but
what
we're
saying
there
is
the
feedback
we
got
through
the
stakeholder
process
from
some
councilors
as
well
as
internal
stakeholders,
was
that
having
a
reduced
rate
in
some
of
those
locations
that
aren't
supported
by
public
transport,
high
frequency,
public
transport,
in
particular
within
walking
distance,
has
suggested
that
those
currently
reduced
rates
may
not
be
meeting
the
demand
in
those
locations.
Thanks
very
much
I.
K
I
just
have
a
second
question,
which
is
about
residential
development
just
in
the
burbs
sort
of
thing,
frequently
there's
complaints
and
concerns
raised
about
car
parking,
inadequate
car
parking
Provisions
in
those
areas,
and
that's
been
strongly
in
in
in
incentivized
by
the
clamped
down
on
illegal
car
parking.
You
know
people
parking
on
the
verge
and
so
forth,
I
mean
typically,
we
would
always
have
a
car
parking
rate
for
domestic
dwellings.
K
Things
change
over
a
period
of
time
the
young
kids
grow
up,
have
cars
and
people
buy
boats
and
Caravans
and
all
of
a
sudden
the
street
is
full
of
full
of
cars
and
we
toys
and
it
seems
that
may
be.
Our
residential
car
parking
rates,
haven't,
aren't
keeping
Pace
or
aren't
realistic
for
today's
conditions,
but
that's
not
considered
at
all
in
this
as
I
see
it.
C
If
I
can
actually
imagine
if
I
just
turn
that
into
I'll
try
and
respond
to
the
point
made
Cassie,
which
is
a
good
one,
and
it's
very
much
front
and
center
of
a
lot
of
the
work
we're
doing
in
this
space,
can
I
just
suggest
that
as
part
of
that
data
and
the
evidence
that
we're
building
is
to
acknowledging
what's
happening
now,
as
opposed
to
what's
happened,
10
20
years
ago.
C
So
we
are
trying
to
get
that
evidence
based
of
how
the
use
of
a
combination
of
the
off
Street
development
space,
but
also
how
it
then
interacts
with
the
on-street
space
is
working.
Now.
That's
that's
the
body
of
evidence
that
we're
trying
to
build
to
again,
as
I
said
before
too,
to
allow
a
conversation
to
improve
that
provision
of
off-street
car
parking
and
developments.
K
K
Is
there
anything?
That's.
D
The
feedback
we've
received
is
that
that
that
rate
is
is
working
at
present
we
haven't
considered
increasing
that
rate
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
something
we'll
we
will
get
data
relating
to
multiple
dwellings,
which
I
recognize
is
more
unit
complexes,
so
there's
different
characteristics
with
that.
D
If
we
were
to
increase
the
rate
for
a
dwelling
house
based
on
what
it
currently
is,
I
think
that
would
be
a
very
that
would
be
a
big
decision
for
us
to
have
to
take
into
account
to
go
beyond
two
spaces
per
dwelling.
So
it's
not
something
that
I
think
we've
looked
at
in
a
lot
of
detail
at
this
point
in
time,
but
we
certainly
can
that.
K
You
said
that
the
feedback
is
that
it's
working
and
the
feedback
I
get
is
that
it's
not
and
I'm
just
thinking
about
well
in
20
years
time,
the
stuff
that
we're
creating
now
are
we
just
replicating
the
problem
or
do
we
bake
a
bolt,
make
a
bold
move
and
try
to
anticipate
more
realistically
based
on
what
we
do
know
now.
What
might
happen
in
the
future,
so
I
would
be
supportive
of
a
detailed
sort
of.
Let
me
review
of
that
those
car
parking
rates
for
residential,
sorry,
something
in
my
throat.
E
I
might
have
snuck
in
earlier
I
think.
But
let
me
just
think
about
that.
While
the
opportunity
arises.
A
E
L
For
your
next
question,
sorry
I
I
can
help
but
agree
mainly
with
counselor
vorster,
that
the
intent
of
that
resolution
was
not
understood.
I
wanted
to
know
you
mentioned
10
councils
as
being
similar.
L
I,
don't
see
anyone
else
being
similar
to
this
city
in
I'd
love
to
know
what
the
10
councils
where
they
were
located
because
we
have
13
million
visitors
a
year,
it's
a
very
different
proposition
to
most
other
cities
in
Australia.
So
how?
How
do
we
compare
our
situation
with
other
councils?
I?
Don't
get
that
so?
Where
were
they?
If
you
don't
mind.
C
Sorry
mentioned
I'll
come
back
today.
You
can
tell
the
exact
10
traditionally,
when
we've
done
benchmarking
over
the
years
that
I've
been
involved
in
these
projects.
We
do
look
at
a
mix
of
local
government
areas
that
are
high
growth,
which
is
one
similar
characteristic,
which
have
a
high
degree
of
transient
population,
which
is
another
like
a
characteristics
which
does
ideally
not
have
a
CBD.
Focus
I
mean
Brisbane
is
an
obvious
one.
Where
we
look
up
the
road
because
of
some
of
the
policies
they
have
there
and
the
effect
that
they
have
regionally.
C
But
but
we
try
to
have
a
more
generically,
I'm
sorry
to
answer
in
generic
sense,
again
counselor,
but
we
usually
try
to
get
a
mix
of
lgos
that
have
similar
characteristics,
not
not
holistically
because,
as
you
said,
there's
no
City
the
same
as
the
Gold
Coast,
but
ones
that
have
characteristics
that
do
mirror
some
of
the
character,
unique
characteristics
that
we
do
have
as
a
city
as
well.
L
So
the
population
at
Brisbane-
you
couldn't
compare
what
happens
there
with
here
and
now
being
a
linear
city
as
we
are
at
it,
I
just
can't
think
of
similar
circumstances,
especially
in
terms
of
our
limited
public
transport
that
how
you
can
possibly
Mark.
You
know
one
against
the
other
and
I
would
really
I'm
not
on
this
committee.
So
I
can't
move
anything
but
the
wording
at
the
top
of
page
36,
which
says
reconsider
allowing
reduced
rates
in
Center
zones.
Actually,
what
we're
reconsidering
is
increasing
them
and
and
I
read
that
I
thought.
L
That
was
a
terrible
thing
that
we
needed
to
take
out
of
the
scope.
But
in
fact
we
need
to
reconfirm
because
we
don't
need
to
do
any
further
or
get
any
further
data.
Just
ask
the
there's
three
of
those
four
represent
or
we're
all
here
today
the
representatives
and
I'll
bet
you.
If
you
ask
councilor
vorster,
counselor,
Taylor,
counselor,
young
and
myself,
is
that
working?
No,
it's
not
because
because
you
can't
get
a
car
park
in
the
center
zone,
so
there's
no
more
work
necessary
there.
C
I
think
three
minutes
I
think
I
think
we're
in
a
complete
agreement
with
with
that
that
position
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
look
at
the
extent
to
which
we
do
change
the
rates
if
it
makes
sense,
so
we
can
provide
it.
So,
yes,
we're
aware
of
the
feedback
given
as
Danny
said
through
the
engagement
process
and
the
data
provided
to
us.
L
I
So
I
was
particularly
interested
in
the
educational
establishments,
so
the
primary
and
the
secondary
schools.
The
state
has
some
type
of
policy
in
that
space
is
the
potential
to
increase
to
reflect
the
state's
existing
policy.
D
I
So
I
think
there's
a
hundred
schools
on
the
Gold,
Coast
and
I
think
the
state
has
successfully
managed
to
not
deliver
enough
car
parking
on
100
Schools,
but
and
they
don't
follow
their
own
policy
and
they're
exempt
from
whatever
our
city
plan
says
so
I'm.
You
know,
I
don't
disagree
that
it's
a
body
of
work
that
needs
to
be
looked
at.
I
I
just
asked
for
the
Merit
of
that
when
the
state
has
a
policy
that
they
already
don't
follow,
and
even
if
we
end
up
having
some
type
of
modification,
it's
only
ever
going
to
pick
up
the
non-government
schools.
So
so
I'd
just
be
cautious
on
that.
In
regards
to
the
comments
made
regarding
page
36,
I
I
think
that
it's
it
is
just
poorly
written,
because
what
you're?
Actually
your
your
preliminary
advice,
is
that
we
actually
removed
the
current
discounts
in
those
four
areas.
I
Well,
consider
the
removal
of
the
current
reduced
rates,
yeah
yeah,
so
and
then
in
regards
to
the
residential
lots.
My
challenge
there
isn't
is:
is
the
two
cars
work
with
the
slightly
larger
Lots?
The
two
cars
don't
work
in
the
smaller
configuration
of
lots
because
there's
less
Street
space
for
families
to
change
over
time.
So
when
you
go
to
a
1980s
type
of
a
state
where
there
was
six
to
eight
hundred
square
meter
blocks
and
there's
cars
on
street
car
spaces
everywhere,
it
clearly
works
having
a
requirement
of
two.
I
When
you
go
to
anything,
post
am
chord
or
whatever
it
was
called
in
the
in
in
the
early
90s
and
you've
got
all
these
300
square
meter
blocks
and
narrow
streets,
and
no
indentations
two
doesn't
work
because
it
doesn't
allow
for
the
growth
of
families.
So
in
my
mind
there
needs
to
be
some
work
done
in
regards
to
that
Matrix
of
lot
size
to
par
on
off
street
parking
requirements
and
even
if
it
means
the
smaller.
The
lot
then
requires
some
review
of
the
indentation
of
car
spaces.
So
I
know
in
studio
Village.
I
They
they
are
there
and
they're
developed
at
the
start,
but
we
can't
retrofit
them
because
they
end
up
being
fifty
thousand
dollar
retrofits
because
of
all
of
the
services
and
and
the
like.
So
so.
I
think
that
this
body
of
work
needs
to
be
a
residential
lot
isn't
like
for,
like
because
of
the
the
size,
the
minimum
size
that
we
now
allow
and
then
my
final
comment
is
in
regards
to
local
bolos
and
the
challenge
that
I
see
there.
I
Council
voices
that
not
all
bolos
are
the
same,
so
some
of
them
are
have
got
200,
pokies
and
three
ranks,
and
some
of
them
are
struggling
with
one
rank
or
or
two
ranks
and
no
pokies,
so
I
think
it's
actually
not
the
use,
not
the
not
the
sporting
use
in
terms
of
Bowls
Club.
I
It's
what
are
all
the
things
that
are
happening
within
that
space,
so
so
I
think
from
memory
Club,
Helen
sales
we've
got
160
or
something
gaming
machines,
and
it's
got
a
car
park
that
probably
meets
the
city
plan
in
terms
of
numbers,
but
is
short
in
regards
of
demand.
So
it
actually
does
spill
out
into
the
off
Street
area
so
and
then
and
then
my
final
point
is
probably
I.
I
Actually
so,
whilst
it's
not
what
the
words
of
the
word
said,
I
actually
don't
have
a
problem
with
this
at
least
identifying
some
of
the
areas
that
maybe
need
tweaking
and
and
whether
or
not
we
tweak
them
is.
It
is
a
decision
for
Council
that
it
provides
us
with
good
information
to
make
that
decision.
So
the
the
city
plan
changes
over
time,
I
think
if
we
go
to
the
screen
before
some
of
those
uses
are
you
know
so
to
markets?
I
I
think
we've
all
experienced
at
the
moment
the
explosion
of
outdoor
markets
generally
in
state
controlled
schools
where
we
have
no
say
in
regards
to
parking
ratios
anyway,
the
reduction,
the
so
minor
reductions
in
funeral
parlors
and
adult
stores.
You
know
I
hope
to
visit,
neither
of
those
and
then
what's
the
what's.
The
next
page.
I
A
A
We
don't
have
additional
land,
so
we've
also
got
to
look
where
we
can
accommodate
decreases
or
whether
we've
got
a
lot
of
empty
car
Parks
sitting
outside
of
a
a
shop
or
something
so
I'll,
go
to
councilor
Hamel
down
the
line
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
council
and
then
cancel
the
gates.
G
That
was
the
last
slide
of
that:
hey
there's
just
the
two
slides
with
the
tables,
yeah
cool,
that's
right!
So
Madam
chair,
it's
very
quickly
just
to
Echo
what
you
just
said
and
what
council
Lauren
Jones
said:
I'm
interested
in
making
a
decision
based
off
data.
We
don't
have
that
yet
and
the
officers
haven't
got
to
that
stage
of
it.
Yet
so
I
get
the
excitement
but
I'm,
not
that
excited
about
it.
At
this
point,
because
all
I've
seen
is
a
couple
that
have
been
potential
decreases.
F
Thank
you
and
and
I'm
curious
to
see
what
the
data
actually
comes
out
at,
because,
if
you're
talking
to
broadbeach
and
Main
Beach
and
reduction,
I'm
really
interested
in
who
the
stakeholders
are
and
the
the
when
and
how
late
is
the
data
actually
is
and
I
can
give
you
an
example.
As
broadbeach
is
a
perfect
example.
F
We've
got
Pacific
Fair,
which
we've
recently
had
a
meeting
with
a
casino
Oasis
that
are
now
shutting
off
their
car
spots
and
starting
to
charge
because
they
already
admit
they
don't
have
enough
car
spots
to
accommodate
their
facilities,
never
mind
people
that's
coming
onto
their
facilities.
So
we
understand
the
charging
is
one
component,
but
this
has
been
increased
because
of
the
fact
of
lack
of
parking
for
the
area
and
I
do
appreciate.
Public
transport
and
Light.
Rail
is
something
that's
very
important,
but
the
comparison
again
through
Council
Gates.
F
What
are
we
comparing
it
to
the
cities,
we're
comparing
it
to
to
their
public
transport
that
they
currently
have
compared
to
the
visitors?
We
have
here
as
well
so
I'm
really
interested
in
the
stakeholders
and
who
are
actually
part
of
that
stakeholders,
because
the
feedback
I'm
getting
through
my
area
is
we're
struggling
for
parking.
F
I
do
appreciate
the
cities
changing,
but
my
understanding
is
we're
reviewing
these
these
land
uses
and
if
we're
looking
at
as
a
potential
increase,
it
would
indicate
to
me
that
maybe
we
haven't
had
enough
in
previous
years
and
as
we
grow,
where
is
our
visitors
and
where
are
locals
going
to
be
parking
moving
forward?
All
I
can
say
is
between
Main
Beach
and
broadbeach.
F
The
main
section
of
me
there
is
a
real
impact
in
relation
to
parking
and
we've
got
some
big
high
Casino,
your
Pacific
fairs,
your
major
organizations
that
need
to
be
part
of
these
conversations
as
well,
because
we
have
had
stakeholders
meeting
ourselves
to
discuss
the
challenges
of
how
does
not
only
workers
get
in
and
park.
But
how
does
visitors
and
guests
get
in
the
area
so
I'm
very
interested
to
see
what
that
data
looks
like
moving
forward
but
again,
really
interesting
in
who
the
stakeholders
are
in
that
input.
L
Thank
you,
I'll
be
quick,
I,
just
I
I
note
that
there
was
a
consultant
or
more
than
one
consultant.
L
This
is
so
heavily
intertwined
with
City
plan
and
the
assessment
process
and
I
just
make
a
comment
that
in
the
early
small
lot
developments
at
the
end
of
cul-de-sacs,
there
was
often
Center
parking
in
the
middle
of
the
road
as
well,
which
catered
For
the
fact
that
there
wasn't
as
much
on
street
parking
due
to
the
narrow
frontages.
That
seems
not
to
be
happening
anymore
and
I
I
understand
the
developers
desire
to
get
the
greatest
possible
yield.
L
But
if
our
officers
at
that
very
early
stage
could
say
well,
we
know
that
we
need
more
parking
and
perhaps
your
cul-de-sacs
could
include
the
space
for
six
or
so
Center,
Parks
or
four
or
or
whatever.
That
would
just
help
with
that
capacity,
because
it's
a
bit
the
same
as
in
the
very
early
master
planned
communities.
L
There
were
always
walkway
linkages
through
big
developments
that
provided
access
to
the
major
Street
networks,
and
so
we
really
need
for
there
to
be
great
consultation
between
the
planners
and
your
branch
at
a
very
early
stage
and
I
know.
City
plan
guides
it
all.
But
when
some
when
development
applications
are
lodged
before
all
of
the
design
work
is
done,
there
really
should
be
an
encouragement
for
people
to
for
developers
to
address
that
and
I.
E
I
was
just
about
to
say:
I
just
said
that
Land
Development
guidelines
mentioned
and
like
they're,
frequently
wheeled
out
as
being
the
reason
and
we've
probably
made
changes
in
the
Land
Development
guidelines
that
ultimately
lead
to
those
outcomes
right
so.
J
Well,
yeah
Madam
chair,
so
I
don't
propose
speaking
anymore,
but
I
have
attempted
to
capture
some
of
the
light
touches
that
we've
discussed
up
emailed
a
copy
of
some
words
to
a
minute
secretary
and
to
close
the
debate.
If
that's
what
you
want
to
do,
I'm
having
to
move
something.
J
That
reads
as
follows:
that
the
city
plan
of
street
car
parking
rates
assessment
project,
progress,
update
report
be
received
in
the
contents
noted,
which
does
not
change
the
city
officer
recommendation,
but
adds
a
two
that
action
be
taken
to
remove
the
reduced
rates
and
Center
zones
outside
of
the
transport
Hub
area.
A
kumara
bundle
varsity
at
nerang,
because
I
think
that's
where
we're
at
as
elected
officials.
J
Three
that
the
stage
2
scope
expanded
to
include
a
suggested
approach
to
the
treatment
of
Tandem
carbox
spaces,
car
stackers
and
the
provision
of
often
on-street
car
parking
in
small
lot
developments
and
four
that
any
future
proposal
to
reduce
off-street
car
parking
rates
for
specific
land
uses
or
in
Geographic
catchments,
be
subject
to
community
consultation
prior
to
consideration
for
inclusion
in
a
future
Amendment
to
the
city
plan.
And
basically,
all
that
number
four
talks
to
is
asking
City
officers
to
carry
out
some
Community
consultation
exercise
prior
to
the
presentation
of
the
final
recommendations.
J
J
Enough
yeah
I've
put
it
in
speech,
marks
so
basically
signal
to
city
offices
that
maybe
that's
an
opportunity
for
them
to
exercise
some
discretion
rather
than
reading
into
the
literal
words.
Well
then,
that's
on
the
page.
E
A
E
J
Comma
I
would
so
stylistically
I'd
I'd
put
a
comma
okay,
because
I
consider
a
car.
E
Lift
and
then
it's
standard
practice
now
Madam
chair
that
these
presentations
being
included
in
the
minutes,
I
think
I'm,
just
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised
that
the
two
pages
of
information
that
were
on
the
screen
weren't
in
the
report,
because
I
mean
they
weren't
they're
they're,
actually
critical
to
wear
the
things
up
to
at
the
moment,
and
then
they
weren't
in
the
report
so
anyway,
I
hope,
they'll
be
in
the
minutes.
E
Is
there
anything
else
in
the
situation
report
or
whatever
it's
called
Situation
paper
that
is
additionally
informative
at
this
point
in
time
that
has
been
editorially
removed
from
either
the
report
or
the
presentation
that
you
think
we
should
know
about.
Given
the
discussion
we've
had
I
mean
I'm
surprised,
you
didn't
just
go
staple
here.
It
is.
A
Right,
thank
you
councilor.
So
we
have
a
change
recommendation
then
moved
by
Council,
divorcester
seconded
by
councilor
Owen
Jones.
If
we
take
that
to
vote
all
those
in
favor,
that's
carried
unanimously.
Thank
you
councilors
for
that
hard
work
and
Daniel.
Thank
you
for
your
first
two
presentations.
I
The
good
thing
that
came
out
of
all
of
that
was
a
clear
decision
of
the
committee
in
regards
to
those
four
areas
taking
on
board
the
advice
that
the
city
officers
had
provided.
So
the
other
stuff
just
informs
the.
L
M
A
Councilors
item
6.3
is
the
late
humans
update
of
the
ecosystem.
Are
we
looking
to
have
a
presentation
on
this.
A
Does
anyone
need
a
presentation
on
this?
It
is
actually
a
good
news
story
and
we've
come
out
very
well
on
it.
So
I
might
invite
Steve
McPhee
into
to
give
us
a
rundown
on,
and
it
is
a
particularly
good
news
story
for
us.
We
spent
a
lot
of
that
counselor
of
dollars
at
budget
and
we've
had
a
good
outcome
and.
J
M
The
joy
of
having
templates
thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
present
this,
as
has
been
described.
This
is
a
good
news
story
and
it's
not
just
a
good
news
story
for
like
few
months,
but
the
learnings
that
we've
obtained
from
the
outcomes
from
this
project.
Over
the
last
five
years,
we've
been
able
to
take
out
to
other
lakes
around
the
city
quick
background,
so
that
is
like
a
few
months.
That
is
a
photo
of
like
a
few
months
there.
M
M
Other
Lakes
I
suppose
have
issues
with
salvinia.
This
lake
has
an
issue
with
blue-grown
algae,
and
that
has
resulted
from
three
things:
climate
change
or
changes
into
the
climate,
things
like
periods
of
drought,
the
expansion
of
the
canal
Network
and
the
in
The
Lakes,
all
the
way
around
the
system;
and
thirdly,
just
its
age.
It's
40
years
old.
M
These
three
things
have
resulted
in
certain
changes
to
water
quality,
with
the
major
one
being
specifically
the
shift
from
a
freshwater
lake
to
a
brackish
Lake
back
in
the
80s
and
90s.
When
it
was
a
freshwater
system,
the
freshwater
plants
that
we're
able
to
grow
there
were
our
competing
algae
for
their
food
source.
M
So
we
didn't
have
those
issues,
but
as
after
the
millennial,
drought,
the
salt
water
that
ingressed
in
through
the
groundwater
actually
raised
into
that
Lake
and
then
just
killed
off
all
that
for
all
those
freshwater
species,
leaving
the
ability
for
algae
to
have
no
competition
for
that
food
source.
The
other
thing:
over
the
40
years
it's
been
receiving
sediment
building
up
through
the
bottom
of
that
Lake.
The
sediment
itself
can
actually
release
phosphorus
back
into
the
water
column,
which
is
the
food
source
that
the
algae
need
to
have.
M
There
we
go
so
last
year,
I
presented
the
outcomes
from
our
multi-criteria
analysis.
The
MCA
looked
at
31
different
options
with
the
top
ones
that
came
out
of
that
were
the
Gully
baskets
the
emergent
plants
and
foslock
application
over
the
last
12
to
16
months
as
well.
We've
drafted
up
a
draft
Lake
management
plan,
which
is
provides
us
like
an
operational
framework
for
the
management,
the
ongoing
management
of
the
lake
and
its
Associated
assets.
M
Also
in
the
last
12
months,
where,
with
our
ongoing
Community
Information
Community
engagement,
we've
swapped
over
to
Community
Information
sessions,
we
held
four
last
year,
we
received
really
good
feedback
from
the
community
that
moving
forward.
That
is
the
way
they
would
appreciate
us
moving
and
we've
got
two
more
at
the
end
of
this
year,
where
we
will
present
that
draft
management
plan.
M
So
why
is
this
such
a
good
news
story
and
and
what
has
created
the
good
news
storage
so
the
first
one
are
Galley
baskets
I
like
to
think
of
these
as
the
hidden
champions
of
this
story.
They
sit
beneath
the
road
Network
in
the
stormwater
in
the
stormwater
system
and
on
average
they
prevent
at
this
Lake
in
particular
about
4
000
kilograms
of
material
from
entering
that
Lake
every
year,
these
72
Gully
baskets
were
actually
in
store
back
in
2014,
but
we
learned
pretty
quickly
that
they
they
worked.
M
Last
year
we
looked
at
the
data
and
it
prevented
just
under
six
and
a
half
cubic
meters
of
sediment
organic
material,
which
is
your
grass
clippings
and
your
Leaf
matter
from
entering
the
lake,
as
well
as
just
your
general
litter
as
well.
So
the
sediment
and
organic
matter
that
didn't
enter
the
lake,
it's
a
good
thing,
because
that
would
have
just
broken
down
to
produce
more
food
source
for
the
for
the
algae
to
grow.
M
The
second
thing
that
is
for
this
good
news
story
is
emergent
plants,
so
basically,
Reeds
sit
around
the
edge
of
the
lake
I
call
these
the
quiet
Achievers
because
they
sort
of
just
sit
there
and
they
help
by
stabilizing
the
foreshore
preventing
erosion.
They
also
capture,
sediment
and
organic
material
that
flows
off
the
park
lands
into
the
system.
They
also
provide
habitat
for
birds
as
well
as
fish
under
the
water
and
the
fish.
M
The
problem
with
like
a
few
months
and
other
likes
that
we
have
around
the
city
is
that
the
four
Shore
is
actually
quite
deep
ranges
from
about
a
foot
to
a
meter
and
a
half,
so
you
just
can't
get
in
there
with
a
shovel,
dig
a
hole
and
plant
some
plants,
so
we
used
a
floating
excavator
to
get
in
there
and
actually
remove
some
healthy
Reeds
from
an
area
and
then
put
it
onto
a
floating
conveyor
belt
and
move
that
those
large
root
balls
over
to
an
area
where
there
aren't
any
plants
and
dump
them
in
really
good
success
rate.
M
On
this
as
well.
We
had
about
95
success
rate
within
three
to
four
months.
We
had
Birds
nesting
in
there
and
just
over
the
weekend
was
the
Aussie
bird
count
which
one
of
the
local
residents
actually
chose
this
location
to
undertake
their
their
study
and
in
20
minutes
they
counted
92
Birds
over
14
species,
so
yeah
it's
providing
extra
extra
habitat
for
those
for
those
creatures.
L
M
Or
to
a
little
bit
because
it
helps
prevent
like
when
the
sediment
comes
in
off
the
park
or
the
grass
clippings
come
in,
it
actually
gets
captured
by
those
roots
and
then,
as
it
breaks
down.
Those
reeds
are
there
to
take
up
those
nutrients.
So
instead
of
the
nutrients
sort
of
ending
up
just
out
in
the
water
column
for
the
algae
to
eat,
it
helps
by
that
process,
and
it
also
helps
bind
the
sediment.
J
M
J
Not
as
deep
as
this,
but
it's
Rubina
Parks
before
it
was
carved
off
stage,
one
I
mean
the
issues
that
we
have
got
a
little
bit
different,
because
this
is
effectively
locked.
J
So
we
tend
to
to
battle
the
weather.
We
tend
to
battle
heavy
rains
washing
crap
into
the
system,
and
we
also
tend
to
battle
rock
armored
embankments
or
embankments,
contributed
by
by
developers
where
we
can't
actually
establish
vegetation,
and
then
we've
got
issues
with
turbidity
involved
in
there.
So
I
think
it
would
be
fair
to
say
the
balance
of
robina's
Lake
systems
are
more
dynamic,
thin
like
humans,
but
like
humans
deals
with
more
structural
issues
in
its
built
environment.
Right
basically,.
M
M
It
was
so
successful
we're
going
to
continue
it
out
moving
forward,
but
because
we
don't
have
so
many
re-beds
around
the
lake
to
actually
Harvest
from
it's
going
to
be
a
slow
process.
So
we're
going
to
over
the
next
couple
of
years
remove
some
more
of
these
healthy
Reds
and
move
them
around
to
other
Parklands
and
then
let
them
expand
and
then,
in
future
years
come
back
and
take
some
of
those
Harvest
those
out
and
move
them
around
and
yeah.
As
I
said,
this
is
one
of
those
incidences
where
we've
used
it
in
other
Lakes.
M
M
So
if
the
Gully
baskets
are
the
other
other,
what
I
call
the
hidden
hidden,
Champions
and
the
red
beds
are
the
quad
Achievers.
Then
foslock
is
the
one
who
got
all
the
media
time.
So
a
bit
of
background
is
so
foslock
works.
It's
not.
It
doesn't
kill
the
algae.
That's
the
first
thing
I
I
want
to
get
across.
It
doesn't
kill
algae.
It
just
helps.
M
Remove
the
food
source-
and
it
does
this
by
being
placed
out
across
the
the
top
of
the
lake
and
then
filtering
down
and
then
acting
like
a
magnet
to
to
to
capture
all
that
dissolved
phosphorus.
M
It
comes
in
a
granule
thing
and
then
it's
actually
mixed
into
a
slurry
and
then
dispersed
out
a
bit
like
a
fountain
yeah
and
then,
as
it
sits
on
the
bed
of
the
lake,
it
actually
continues
to
work
because,
as
I
was
mentioned
earlier,
the
sediment
of
the
lake
can
actually
release
phosphorus.
This
acts
like
a
blanket
preventing
it
from
from
being
able
to
release
and
the
data
that
came
out
of
Griffith
University
and
that's
one
of
the
photos
from
the
from
one
of
the
sediments
they
took
sediment
samples.
M
So
the
question
is:
did
foslock
work
and
yes,
it
did
and
I
apologize
now
I'm
going
to
get
a
little
bit
sciency,
but
this
graph
it's
a
lot
to
take
in,
but
it
does
tell
a
really
good
story.
There's
a
few
things
you've
got
to
take
into
account,
so
the
green
line
is
the
toxin
concentration
over
time,
with
the
blue
columns
being
individual
rainfall
events
and
the
red
lines
being
the
trigger
values
to
close
the
lake
for
recreational
use,
and
then
the
fossil
columns
are
there.
M
So
the
the
trial
that
we
did
in
2018
was
just
32
tons.
Then
last
August
we
did
87
tons,
which
was
the
whole
of
Lake
application,
and
if
you
can
just
look
at
the
in
the
center
of
the
graph
in
that
January
February
event,
we
had
in
2020,
you
can
see
directly
after
that
rainfall
event.
We
had
the
largest
Spike
of
toxin,
sorry
of
algae
concentration
in
the
lake
over
the
period,
whereas
since
the
87
tons
was
applied,
we've
had
similar
larger
rainfall
events
and
we
haven't
had
that
Ingress
and
yeah.
M
So
the
fuzz
lockers
work
together
with
the
Gully
baskets
and
a
little
bit
of
the
emergent
plant,
but
the
foslock
has
also
worked
by
clearing
up
the
water
column
and
making
it
clear
very
similar
to
the
pool
sort
of
situation
and
that's
actually
allowed
some
salt
tolerant
species
of
plants.
To
start
growing
at
the
bottom,
which,
hopefully,
we
can
keep
encouraging
to
grow,
so
everything
I've
spoken
about.
It's
all
about
we've
increased
the
habitat,
we've
improved
Community
outcomes
and
that
has
just
resulted
in
oh
I,
jumped
ahead.
M
Sorry
about
that,
so
that
graph,
what
what
it
it
sort
of
shows
as
well,
is
over
the
period
of
time
that
it
was
in
that
red
zone
back
in
2018.
Nearly
the
whole
year
was
actually
in
that
closure,
and
it
has
gradually
gotten
less
so
up
until
the
end
of
August.
M
We
hadn't
gone
into
a
closure
this
year
and
then,
alternatively,
you
can
see
we've
gone
into
the
green
level
surveillance
mode
for
the
very
very
first
time
in
the
last
five
six
years
and
we're
seeing
that
Trend
over
to
that
caution,
alert
as
well.
So
that
is
it's
great
news
yeah,
and
so
that
is
allowing
improved
recreational
use.
The
clear
rewarders
increase
the
habitat
and
improve
Community
outcomes
which
resulted
to
this
is
when
I
wanted
a
healthy
ecosystem
for
all
to
enjoy.
A
It's
a
great
outcome:
it's
yeah
about
six
years
worth
of
work
and
it's
nice
to
see.
I
was
down
in
the
late
Tuesday
and
Thursday
of
last
week
before
and
all
the
Nippers
are
back
in
their
training
again
with
their
groups
from
knobbys
and
mermaids.
So
it
was
it's
a
great
outcome.
Yeah.
A
Absolutely
and
these
boards
are
up
all
in
every
Park
in
the
lake
now
advising
the
condition
of
the
lake
and
how
we
got
there.
We've
sent
out
bits
of
media
all
the
way,
so
we've
been
working
with
it,
so
yeah
I'm,
going
to
counselor
Peter
Young.
K
It
is
a
great
story
and
good
good
work.
Thanks
Steve
the
recommendation.
One
of
the
recommendations
is
that
there's
a
budget
request
for
ongoing
nutrient
reduction
treatments
for
Lakeview
months.
Are
you
looking
at
applying
this
sort
of
treatment
elsewhere,
and
is
there
a
need
for
us
to
recognize
that
in
the.
M
Sorry
resolution
elsewhere
to
other
lakes
or
in
this
Lake
itself
in
other
Lakes,
not
at
this
stage
now
that
budget
request
is
for
like
a
few
months.
So
with
the
large
level,
it's
not
a
one-time,
only
application
yep.
The
idea
is
to
continually
use
this
with
other
other
objectives,
to
sort
of
keep
that
water
quality
clear.
It's
a
lot
like
harvesting.
We
just
don't
go
in
and
harvest
one
Lake
for
salvinia
once
and
then
walk
away.
M
There
would
have
to
be
investigations
and
to
see
if
those
Lakes
are
suitable
for
first
lock,
so
certain
shallow
lakes
that
have
very
large
inflows
of
stormwater
events,
it'll
just
get
washed
out
and
it'll
be
wasted,
so
actually
Central,
Park
Lake.
It
was
used
there
I
think
about
10
years
ago,
or
maybe
a
little
bit
longer
with
a
developer
and
yeah.
It
got
washed.
A
Yeah
and
just
to
add
to
that
yeah
with
this
would
be
based
on
the
data
too,
like
after
a
we
continually
test
the
lake
all
the
time
and
it's
after
a
particularly
big
rain
events
that
the
lake
has
turned.
But
what
we're
looking
at
is
collecting
the
data
going
forward.
So
the
first
lot
was
37
tons,
and
that
was
approximately
about
a
hundred
thousand
I
think.
The
second
lot
was
87
tons,
and
that
was
around
about
the
300
000.
A
But
it's
working
that
maybe
that
87
tons,
because
it's
put
it
back
into
the
green.
It
may
be
something
that,
with
our
data
collection,
it
might
last
two
three
or
four
years
before
it
actually
needs
topping
up,
but
as
Steve's
sort
of
presented
to
the
residents
as
well
it
we
have
to
continually
correlate
that
data
to
ensure
that
we're
you
know
over
applying
under
applying
so
to
see
it
sitting
in
the
green
or
just
moving
a
little
bit
further
forward.
A
So
we
want
to
collect
that
to
see
how
often
those
those
applications
need
to
occur
if
they
need
to
occur.
K
M
It's
clearer
well,
during
winter
it
obviously
gets
colder,
but
we
will
be
able
to
know
a
little
bit
more
coming
into
summer
to
see
if
there
has
been,
because
we
have
been
collecting
water
quality
data
and
samples
at
this
Lake
for
for
decades.
So
that's
a
good
thing
that
we'll
be
able
to
look
back
at
thanks,
Jeff.
A
Thanks
counselor
young,
so
we've
got
a
recommendation.
There
I'm
happy
to
move
that
one
and
counselor
Peter
Young
to
Second
all
those
in
favor.
That's
carried
unanimously.
Thank
you,
counselors.
Our
final
item
is
our
on-grade
paper.
It's
are
there
any
questions
on
this
particular
one.
If
there
is
if
I
could
have
someone
move
this
into
closed
for
local
government
budget
can
so
moved
into
yeah
moved
by
councilor
vorster
yeah
second
of
a
move
by
councilor
Owen
Jones
seconded
by
councilor
called
while
we're
moving
into
closed.
A
We'll
ask
a
few
words
from
councilor
Owen
Jones.
A
A
As
well
moved
by
Council
Owen
Jones,
taken
by
Council
divorce
to
all
those
in
favor,
that's
carried
unanimously,
there's
GB
items
coming
forward,
councilor
Patterson,
unless
you
were
planning
on
leaving
no
Okay.
So
we've
got
two
GB
items
there.
Today,
councilors
and
and
I'm
happy
to
move
8.1.
A
It's
been
put
forward
by
councilor
Hamill
he's
not
on
this
committee,
so
I'm
happy
to
move
it
if
I
could
have
a
second
or
so
he
can
speak
to
it.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Patterson,
councilor.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
agreeing
to
move
this
gbi
just
very
quickly
for
councilors.
That
would
not
have
a
clue
what
the
Google
flight
mitigation
scheme
necessarily
is.
So
the
the
Rocky
Point
sugar
District
that
covers
a
big
geographical
area
in
division.
One
is
a
flood
plain
back
in
the
60s.
The
state
government
went
about
a
significant
drainage
exercise
in
there
to
open
it
up
for
agricultural
purposes,
and
that
was
called
when
Google
flood
mitigation
scheme.
G
The
city
is
the
one
that
ministers
the
scheme
and
takes
care
of
the
maintenance
and
operation
of
floodgates
and
all
those
kind
of
fun
works.
So
it's
a
piece
of
State
legislation,
but
it's
a
council
that
has
to
actually
take
care
of
it.
Like
I
said
it
was
developed
back
in
the
60s,
we're
still
working
underneath
that
legislation.
It's
been
the
best
part
of
15
years,
since
it's
had
a
review
just
to
look
at
other
current
policies
and
procedures
fit
for
purpose.
Is
there
a
need
to
be
looking
at
improvements
around
Telemetry
devices
floodgates?
A
E
Was
it
me
yeah,
oh
Madam,
chair
I
was
just
going
to
ask
three
past
the
director.
That
sounds
like
an
enormous
amount
of
work.
Like
massive
amount
of
work
and
I,
don't
know
councilman
love.
You
had
any
thoughts
on
whether
that
would
like
require
external
consultancies
and
what
have
you,
because
it
might
require
its
own
budget
Center
to
pay
for
that.
So
I,
just
don't
want
us
to
do
something
that
we're
we're
not
knowingly
triggering
a
massive
expenditure.
Do
we
have
any
line
of
sight
on
that.
H
K
N
Might
yep
that's
right,
so
three
bedroom
chair,
so
we
do
have
a
budget
for
the
maintenance
operations
of
the
Google
flood
mitigation
scheme,
but
I
suppose
moving
forward
I
suppose
we
have
to
do
a
bit
of
work
in
terms
of
the
study,
so
the
first
I
suppose
recommendation
is
to
get
better
data
in
terms
of
the
the
events
that
occur
so
you'd,
like
our
using
our
flood
to
melt
Telemetry
we'd
be
looking
at
to
say:
well,
okay,
should
we
put
in
some
loggers
around
that
area
to
get
some
real
time
or
some
analysis
about?
N
You
know
what
events
when
they
do
occur?
What
were
the
heights
within
the
the
area?
I
suppose
moving
forward
too,
is
also
looking
at
the
the
catchment
area.
How's
that
changed,
so
that's
work
that
we
could
do
through
our
normal
consultants
in
hydraulic
assessments
of
you
know
what
what
has
changed
in
that
catchment
and
then,
as
a
result,
you
know.
Is
there
any
sort
of
parameters
that
need
to
be
changed
in
terms
of
the
the
discharge
that
that
area
or
the
scheme.
A
By
Council
of
Austin
II
by
myself,
all
those
in
favor.
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A
Councilors
8.1,
we
have
a
GB
item
there,
which
we
went
into
close
to
have
a
healthy
discussion
on
and
also
to
ensure
that
we
are
in
support
of
the
correct
wording
going
forward
here,
which
we've
managed
to
do
counts
myself
and
councilor.
Patterson
are
happy
with
the
change,
as
we
were
the
Mover
and
the
secondar
I'm
going
to
go
to
my
colleagues
to
vote
on
this.
So
all
those
in
favor
that's
carried
unanimously.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
those
for
those
who
turned
in
tuned
in
to
Lifestyle
Community.
We
we
had
a
conversation
concerning
parking
rules
and
what
I
propose
is
a
recommendation
at
the
appropriate
committee,
which
should
provide
some
clarity
and
some
information
to
us
counselors
in
case.
J
We
want
to
press
for
change
at
a
state
level,
and
it
reads
that
updates
be
made
to
the
comprehensive
guide
to
safe
and
legal
parking
on
the
Gold
Coast
and
the
quick
guide
to
safe
and
legal
parking
on
the
Gold
Coast
documents
to
better
distinguish
between
State
and
Council
rules.
Let
a
memorandum
be
prepared
for
councils
outlining
House
State
how
this
state
may
fit
a
council's
ability
to
create
bespoke
parking
rules
in
built
up
areas
on
the
Gold
Coast,
including
on
nature
strips.
J
A
So
any
comment
on
that
one
from
it
was
quite
well
discussed
in
in
lnc
this
morning,
but
I'm
more
than
happy
to
open
the
floor
up.
If
anyone
wants
to
cancel
the
gates.
Thank.
L
You
I'd
just
like
to
thank
councilor
vorster
for
taking
up
the
matter
this
morning
at
his
committee
and
bringing
it
here.
We
had
had
discussion
over
a
period
of
time
and
we
recognized
that
there's
well
not
tension
between
community
services
and
TNI,
but
because
one
branch
is
involved
in
making
sure
of
council's
policies
and
the
legality
of
them.
Another
branches
tasked
with
enforcement
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
complaint.