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A
A
Okay,
welcome
to
the
water
waste
and
energy
committee
meeting
wednesday
14th
july
number
805,
and
can
we
welcome
visiting
councillors,
council
rowan
jones,
councillor
gates
and
councillor
pauline
young
and
we
have
councillor
mcdonald
on
teams?
Are
you
there,
council,
macdonald.
A
A
A
A
No,
we
just
started
late
still
waiting
for
councillor
castro
and
councillor
hamill,
who
are
both
running
late,
but
we're
going
to
start
so
welcome
to
the
meeting
we
might
just
start
by
confirming
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting
unless
anyone's
got
any
corrections,
no
proposed
by
councillor
toza
seconder
for
confirmation
of
minutes,
counselor
peter
young,
all
those
in
favor,
that's
carried
any
conflict
of
interest
declarations.
A
Counsellors
I
haven't
received
any
director,
you
haven't
received
any
no.
No,
we
have
several
starred
items
and
we
have
some
presentations
today.
Councillors.
Would
anyone
like
to
unstar
any
of
the
start
items.
A
A
I
think
I
might
unstar
nine
just
for
a
quick
question
when
we
go
into
closed.
A
B
Thanks
chair
part
of
my
questioning
is
to
do
with
we
with
the
street
and
park
bin
services
and
that
and
where
we
were
looking
at
recycle
bins
for
the
parks
at
one
stage,
and
we
were,
the
initial
project
was
going
to
be
in
public
place,
recycling
expansion
in
burley,
and
now
it's
on
hold.
B
So
you
can
undertake
a
review
now,
just
my
thoughts
on
this.
Are
that
since
covered,
we
have
so
much
more
demand
on
our
parks,
recycling,
because
there's
just
everything's
in
disposable
containers
now,
and
I
would
imagine
that
without
any
recycling
bins
in
those
really
busy
areas,
we're
actually
sending
a
lot
more
to
landfill,
and
I
was
just
wondering
why
we
weren't
progressing.
That
sort
of
thing,
just
a
thought
you
only
just,
and
especially
in
our
areas
where
our
restaurant
areas
where
people
are
and
you
just
see
the
bins-
are
overflowing
with
cardboard.
A
C
Through
madame
chair,
it
hasn't
been
placed
on
hold
we're
simply
working
through
a
number
of
the
challenges
with
public
place.
Recycling.
One
of
the
challenges
is,
to
be
honest,
simply
the
cost
and
the
arrangements
as
soon
as
you
put
a
recycling
bin
at
a
location.
C
You
actually,
then,
just
simply
double
the
service,
because
we
have
our
current
city
maintenance
trucks
go
around
and
collect
the
waste
bins.
As
soon
as
you
put
another
bin
there.
We
have
to
have
a
different,
separate
truck,
come
around
and
do
the
same
sort
of
route.
C
C
And
many
of
you
will
be
aware
that
in
some
places
we
have
simply,
for
example,
a
galvanized
post
and
we
have
a
red
bin
on
one
side
and
we
have
a
yellow
bin
on
the
other
side.
But
in
some
of
our
more
prominent
parks
like,
for
example,
at
burley.
C
I
think
one
of
the
other
final
things
to
say
is,
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
the
cardboard
packaging
that
gets
used
with
takeaways
in
parks
is
not
highly
desirable
from
a
recycling
perspective,
our
recyclers,
because
it's
often
highly
contaminated
with
food
stuffs
and
even
pizza
boxes.
You
know-
often
just
have
you
know
oil
and
residue
in
it.
So
from
a
recycling
perspective,
it's
it
actually
is
not
selected
for
recycling
a
lot
of
that
that
material.
C
But
we're
well
aware
that,
and
we
saw
it
since
the
start
of
covert
a
number
of
our
bin
services
in
a
number
of
locations.
We've
had
to
increase
the
servicing
of
them
because
of
the
increase
in
the
utilization
of
those
parks
and
the
increase
in
the
utilization
of
takeaways.
B
And
I
think
through
the
chief,
that's
right,
the
other
thing
I've
noticed
is
being
out
early
in
that
in
the
day
is
the
number
of
people
that
are
actually
going
out
and
going
through
the
bins
now
and
collecting
all
the
the
bottles
and
the
tins
that
they
can
actually
get
their
ten
cents
for
each.
So
that
used
to
be
a
sporadic
thing.
B
But
now
there's
not
a
day
of
the
week
that
I
go
trotting
rather
than
running,
but
that
I
don't
see
people
going
and-
and
it's
you
know
not
more-
it's
half
a
dozen
in
the
distance
that
I
do
different
people
going
through
it.
So
obviously
the
increase
is
there
because
they're
they're
cashing
in
on
it.
So
it's
the
demand
for
and
and
I
would
have
to
say,
waste
wise.
B
It's
probably
one
of
the
the
biggest
requests
we
get
through
the
division
12
office
is
why
don't
we
have
some
sort
of
recycling
in
our
public
parks
and
also
we
sort
of
we
get
feedback
from
you
know
like
busy
park
and
things
like
that,
the
biggest
sporting
grounds
where
now
that
everything's
disposable?
Are
we?
So
it's
just
it's
nice
to
know
that
it's
not
on
hold,
but
it's
you
know
it's
a
question.
I
think
I've
probably
asked
for
three
or
four
years
now:
yeah.
C
And
look
at
it
again,
you're
absolutely
right
in
the
previous
work
we
did
on
the
waste
strategy,
part
of
the
community
feedback
and
the
highest
level
of
community
feedback
and
support
was
for
increased
public
place
recycling
but,
as
I
say,
the
logistics
and
the
challenges
of
how
we
we
actually
achieve
recycling
in
those
locations
is
is
not
easy.
Okay,
but
we
certainly
haven't,
haven't
dropped
it.
The
guys
are
working
absolutely
on
it
and
and
when
we
have
or
when
we
feel
we've
got
a
a
sound
approach.
C
That
is
a
gets,
a
consistent
picture
and
is
cost
effective
and
can
be
serviced
without
increasing
substantially
our
our
maintenance
fleet,
we'll
we'll
certainly
be
coming
back
with
that.
A
B
C
Absolutely,
in
fact,
that's
that's
where
the
real
opportunity
is.
If
we
can
get
this,
you
know
our
proposal
right.
We
will
include
that
in
our
collections,
contract
and
we'll
certainly
be
coming
back
to
committee,
with
a
number
of
proposals
that
we'd
like
to
include
in
the
new
collections
contract
to
advance
a
number
of
these
things.
Thank.
A
You,
I
think,
councillor
gates,
you
were
next
and
then
followed
by
councillor
toza.
D
Thanks
chair,
the
director
actually
touched
on
the
question
that
I'd
written
down,
which
was
whether
we
had
any
statistics
on
the
level
of
contamination
in
public
place.
Recycling
given
the
food
scraps
that
might
remain
in
the
disposed
of
product.
C
C
It
we
we
have
and,
as
I
say,
it's
very
challenging
and
and
people
who
want
to
do
the
right
thing
want
to
see
public
place
recycling.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
see
great
outcomes
from
that
space
and
generally,
your
best
achievements
are
collecting
your
containers.
As
as
councilor
young
said,
you
know
your
glasses
and
your
your
cans,
but
they
are
now
extremely
popular
for
for
people
to
come
and
remove
and
and
cash
up.
C
E
So
if
you
know
someone
has
a
compost
bin
at
home,
we
put
food
scraps
in
it.
Can
we
put
kind
of
newspaper
and
is
that
it
recommended
or
not
recommended?
Or
can
I
get
some
advice
about
that?
I'm
just
trying
to
work
out
because
I
kind
of
note
the
the
commentary
around
cardboard
being
put
into
recycling
contaminating
recycling,
but
it
could
be
put
into
green
waste
or
it
could
have
been
put
into
food
organics
or
could
it
be
put
into
or
could
it
be
put
into
a
home
compost
option.
C
C
Often
those
products
are
contaminated
and
aren't
highly
desirable
from
a
recycling
perspective
and
I'll.
E
E
E
So
keep
doing
that,
but
do
not
change,
but
it
occurs
to
me
that
if
there's
food
scraps
in
it
it
does
contaminate,
it
is
compost
an
option
or
a
recommended
option.
C
Not
generally,
it's
recommended
from
a
home
composting.
If
you
want
to
do
that,
that's
okay,
but
it
we
don't
want
to.
When
we
move
to
a
organics
or
our
food
and
organics.
We
do
not
want
cardboard
in
that
that
service
or
that
bin,
then
the
cardboard
should
either
you
can
do
something
yourself
at
home,
but
the
cardboard
should
go
in
the
yellow
bin.
What
about
newspaper
newspaper
can
you
should
go
in
the
yellow
bin
as
well?
It's
it's!
C
But
again,
newspapers
are
very
low
quality
paper,
but
it
should
go
in
the
yellow
recycling
bin.
E
C
Should
that
just
be
buried
in
the
ground
or
what
should
it
we'll
we'll
get
our
list
of
things
and
we'll
share
it?
But
if
you've
got
other
ideas,
we'll
make
sure
we
cover
them
on
the
list
and
information
that'd
be
great
thanks.
Rod.
F
Chair,
I
was
only
going
to
add
a
little
bit
under
that
about
the
packaging
stuff.
That's
why
moving
to
biodegradable
packaging
is
such
a
big
push,
because
even
when
you
do
recycle
cardboard,
we
don't
actually
have
the
capacity
in
most
places
of
australia
to
actually
re-pulp
it
and
reuse
it.
It's
still
too
cheap
to
use
virgin
cardboard.
So
the
future
will
be
that
most,
your
cardboard
packaging
will
be
from
like
say
the
stuff
you
get.
F
Your
guzman
gomez
in
is
actually
made
from
sugarcane
pulp
as
a
byproduct
and
is
fully
compostable,
so
you
won't
see
in
the
future
card
recycled
cardboard,
going
back
into
fresh
cardboard,
necessarily
to
probably
all
end
up
in
composting
in
the
future.
Just
need
that
to
come
along
a
little
bit
faster,
which
I
don't
know
how
far
in
the
future
are
off
about
some
of
the
other
stuff
that
the
city's
getting
involved
in,
but
we're
at
the
forefront
of
a
couple
of
those
things
in
conjunction
with
some
universities.
At
the
moment,.
G
I
saw
recently
that
there's
a
new
app,
that's
coming
that
I
think,
is
going
to
be
nationally
released
in
regards
to
what
can
can't
go
into
bins,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
what
the
city
is
making
wanting
to
make
sure
is
that
the
material
that
goes
into
our
recycling
bins
is
follows
that
and
is
not
contaminated,
are
able
to
be
sorted
because
ultimately,
there
is
material
that
is
recycled
and
we
get
paid
for
it
by
volume.
G
A
A
But
just
before
we
take
the
vote
on
on
item
six,
probably
just
finish
off,
because
I
represent
the
southern
end
of
the
city,
which
is
close
to
the
new
south
wales
border.
Tweed
tweed
has
been
ahead
with
the
recycling
bins
in
public
places
for
quite
a
while.
So
I
do
get
the
request,
especially
around
the
coolangatta
cbd
area
and
the
beach
areas
there.
That
are
very
popular
that
when
we're
doing
this
so
glad
to
hear
that
it's
still
not
on
hold.
So
thank
you.
I'm.
F
F
A
Interesting
interesting,
okay,
would
someone
like
to
move
item
six
councillor
peter
young
seconder,
councillor
toza,
all
those
in
favor
and
that's
carried
counsellors?
We
have
some
confidential
items
on
grey
paper
items,
eight,
nine
and
ten
I'll.
Just
let
you
know
the
reason
for
going
into
clothes
for
procedural
motion
item
eight.
The
local
government
is
a
local
government
budget
issue
and
negotiations
relating
to
a
commercial
matter
involving
the
local
government,
for
which
a
public
discussion
would
be
likely
to
prejudice
the
interest
of
the
local
government
item.
A
9
resource
recovery
services
update
industrial
matters
affecting
employees,
it's
also
a
local
government
budget
issue
and
negotiations
relating
to
a
commercial
matter
involving
the
local
government,
for
which
public
discussion
would
be
likely
to
prejudice
the
interest
of
the
local
government
and
item
10.
Recycle
water
scheme
support.
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
just
for
those
who
are
viewing
we're
actually
having
a
non-confidential
presentation,
and
it's
just
about
our
strategic
planning
update
and
you
may
note
the
slide
on
the
screen
talking
about
capacity
of
our
sewage
treatment
plants,
just
the
capacity
and
the
current
load
and
the
future
load
of
2066,
and
that
will
be
made
available
to
the
public.
You
can
continue
presentation
thanks
kathy.
H
Yes,
so
as
I've
as
councillor
just
said,
or
the
chair
just
mentioned,
all
of
our
stps
have
capacity
at
the
moment,
and
we
plan
for
at
least
50
years
with
a
number
of
our
stps.
Having
upgrades
coming
up
in
the
next
10
years,.
H
So
this
is
pimperman
stp
and,
as
I
was
saying,
we
upgrade
our
stp
routinely
and
so,
as
you
can
tell,
pa1
transfer,
for
example,
will
allow
us
to
buy
some
more
years
in
in
the
pimpama
stp,
which
will
then
put
stage
two
out
to,
and
I
can't
read
that
2028
and
then
a
few
purchase
future
stage
around
20
30,
20
42,
all
depending
on
load
when
it
comes
in
and
obviously
you
know,
there's
there's
capacity.
C
So,
just
to
sorry
kathy
just
to
highlight
you
know
clearly,
this
is
just
simple
intersection
of
lines
that
says
our
current
capacity
will
hit
at
20,
28
and,
as
kathy
said,
that
that'll
depend
on
what
actually
happens
or
not,
but
2028
is
when
we
need
stage
2
to
be
built
and
up
and
operating.
So
you
know
a
decent
augmentation
will
take
two
years
to
construct.
You
know
a
year
before
that
to
design.
C
So
you
know
when
you
come
back
on
that,
it's
about
2023,
24
that
we
would
be.
You
know,
seriously
designing,
planning
and-
and
you
know,
2025.
D
H
So
this
just
gives
you
an
overlay
of
of
where
stages
can
go
in
in
the
stp
and,
as
I
was
saying,
whilst
we
only
have
stages,
one
two
and
three,
as
you
can
see,
we've
actually
identified
up
to
stage
five
if,
if
needed,
and
that
that
would
only
come
on
board.
If,
if
the
population
projections
increased
or
the
load
increased,
or
we
took
the
sewage
from
the
stapleton
catchment
back
down
into
to
the
pimple
catchment.
H
H
Sewage,
so
onto
kumavar
they're
our
biggest
plant,
so
kumba
obviously
has
a
lot
more
stages
because
it
it
has
the
biggest
area
it
services
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
will
we're
currently
building
stage
six
at
the
moment
and
we'll
be
able
to
take
the
pa1
transfer
and
we'll
need
to
start
building
thinking
about
building
stage,
seven
around
2030
again,
depending
on
where
we're
at
whether
we
transfer
pa1
back
to
pimpama
before
we
build
these
next
stages.
H
E
H
It's
in
our
10-year
plan
right,
so
it's
in
the
council's
financial
sustainability
model,
it's
also
in
our
our
l-jip
and
our
water
and
sewage
infrastructure
plan.
As
you
know,
gold
coast,
water
is,
or
water
and
waste
are
sort
of
semi
ring
fenced
in
terms
of
dollars.
So
yes,
we
we
would
have
it
in
our
10-year
plan,
fully
funded
for
all
of
the
upgrades
for
10
years.
E
G
G
H
Yeah
construction
of
stage
six
is
well
advanced.
We've
sunk,
our
thousand
piles
for
the
structures
we've.
Now.
If,
if
you
went
out
there,
we've
got
heaps
of
walls
up
which
are
pretty
pretty
cool
to
look
at
and
then
yes,
there's
been
no
issues
in
terms
of
treatment
of
our
current
load
coming
into
cumberbar.
C
G
I
suppose
the
rationale
behind
the
questions
is
to
demystify
some
of
the
urban
myths
that
might
have
turned
up
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
in
regards
to
the
mangroves
in
the
kimbar
wetland
and
that
coinciding
with
construction
at
stage
six,
which
is
being
conflated
together
so
in
regards
to
kumamba's
spare
capacity
at
the
moment,
so
four
or
five
thousand
equivalent
people
people.
What
does
that
quite
do
roughly
in
regards
to
residents.
H
G
Yeah
and
so,
and
what
is
the
timing
of
stage
six
being
online?
G
C
It
probably
will
be
the
end
of
next
year.
End
of
two
finishes
end
of
2022
as
as
per
that
graph
which,
when
we
required
it,
but
but
I
think
it's
important
to
say,
treatment
plants
are
not.
C
They
don't
hit
a
wall
in
terms
of
capacity,
there's
not
a
magic
number
and
then
suddenly,
everything's
broken
and,
as
we
discussed
before,
we
have
some
extremely
talented
operators
in
our
systems
and
and,
as
we've
regularly
said,
whenever
we
have
any
consultants
come
and
do
work
on
our
treatment
plans.
They're
continually
amazed
at
how
well
and
what
great
performance
we
get
out
of
our
treatment
plans
that
far
exceeds
in
theory
what
they
should
be
able
to
do.
C
So,
as
I
say,
there's
no
hard
wall
coming
up
that.
You
know
on
this
date
that
the
treatment
plan
suddenly
in
in
trouble,
but
we're
well
on
our
our
program
and,
as
I
say,
to
commission
that
the
treatment
or
the
next
stage
of
the
treatment
plan
by
the
end
of
2022,
as
was
predicted.
G
And
just
a
final
question
so
clearly
today,
you're
talking
about
a
plan
that
takes
the
entire
city
out
nationally
to
2066,
to
tie
in
with
the
southeast
queensland
population
targets
delivered
by
our
state
government
in
regards
to
stage
six.
When
would
if
the
initial
designs
have
have
commenced,
like
I
mean
so,
was
it
two
or
three
years
ago
or
was
it
or
was
it
five
or
ten
years
ago?
I
I'm
I'm
interested
in
giving
the
residents
some
comfort
in
the
fact
that
clearly,
you've
got
a
a
a
long
50-year
plan
for
capacity.
G
But,
like
I
mean
that
five
percent
headroom,
that
we've
got
in
capacity
is
something
that's
how
you
run
your
business,
so
we
don't
actually
build
and
build
and
have
a
spare
30
capacity
because
that's
got
to
be
funded
by
rate
payers.
So
I'd
be
really
interested
in
knowing
when
the
original
designs
started
being
created
for
stage
six
as
a
way
of
explaining
to
people
that
two
or
three
or
five
year
tale
of
design,
that's
required.
C
C
We
would
have
started
planning
this
several
years
ago
that
the
first
stage
of
planning
is:
what
do
we
think
we're
going
to
build?
What
sort
of
technology
is
currently
available?
Ryan?
Is
a
process
engineer,
that's
what
he
specializes
in.
He
looks
at
the
globally
and
we
examine
a
number
of
technologies
globally
when
we
commenced
this
and,
as
I
said
this
was
probably
seven
years
ago,
doing
a
technology
scan
of
what
is
our
best
option
for
upgrade
of
this
treatment
plant
that
underwent
a
number
of
investigation
studies.
C
C
C
So
as
we're
building
this
and
as
you
can
see,
while
we're
constructing
stage
six,
we've
got
schematics
and
areas
identified
for
the
next
stage.
So
you
can
see
you
know
three
blue
dots.
We've
already
figured
out
what
technology
we
want
to
do
for
stage
seven
at
this
point
in
time,
yet
that's
another
10
years
down
the
track
now,
we'll
in
five
years
time
revisit
our
thinking
for
stage
seven
and
go
through
that
whole
process
again,
so
we
don't
leave
anything
to
chance.
C
As
you
say,
this
is
a
well
thought
out
and
extensive
process.
H
I
could
pull
out
a
1978
report
and
you'll
probably
see
a
design
shortly
from
about
1992
down
in
in
illinois,
which
basically
says
this
is
what
I
think
we
need
to
build
in
x
number
of
years
time,
because
we
just
keep
rolling
it
out
re-looking
at
it.
Looking
at
the
timing,
looking
at
whether
technology's
changed
looking
at
what
whether
concentrations
have
changed
and
then
and
then
going
forward,
I'd
make
a
dawn
joke,
but
she's.
H
Yes,
so,
as
as
paul
said,
you
can
see
that
we've
got
a
number
of
stages
already
identified
on
on
this
one
as
well
and,
as
I
said,
all
our
sites
are
constrained,
so
future
stages
will
end
up
having
some
intensification
process
for
us
to
continue
to
treat
sewage
well
past
the
50
years
that
we
currently
plan
for
mary
mac
so
again
similar
similar
story.
So
you
asked
about
the
20
million
dollars,
that's
like
little
stages,
one
and
two
plus
the
dewatering.
H
C
C
H
And
that's
the
rough
layout
and
that's
going
forward.
So
those
of
you
who
know
merrimack
at
the
moment,
you'll
you'll,
think
that
little
spot.
Oh,
I
can't
even
do
it
we're
we're
stage.
Six!
Isn't
that
where
the
green
waste
pad
currently
sits?
Yes,
yes,
it
is.
The
green
waste
pad
will
be
moving
off
that
site
very
shortly
and
that's
where
stage
six
will
will
eventually
go
and
as
part
of
the
recycled
water
network
expansion
you'll
see
a
little
yellow.
H
Yes
and
no,
there
will
be
approvals
for
construction
activities
and
potential
approvals
for
intensification,
so
the
the
rules
around
stp
approvals
have
changed.
It
used
to
be.
If
you
increase
the
capacity
by
10,
then
you
had
to
go
back
in
and
get
an
approval.
That's
changed
now
and
they
look
at
it's.
It's
either
10
or
it's
increased
potential
for
harm
or
a
number
of
other
things.
So
myself
and
my
team
make
those
assessments
as
to
as
to
whether
that's
that
needs
a
full
approval
or
just
a
minor
amendment.
H
We
have
to
definitely
do
minor
amendments
because
we
have
noise
conditions
and
odour
conditions
on
our
treatment
plants
and
they're.
Very
tight
and
construction
activities
with
piling
will
make
it.
So
we
cannot
achieve
those
conditions,
so
I
actually
go
back
in
and
go
get
an
amendment
for
piling
noise
and
truck
noise
just
like
what
we
did
at
coomba
bar.
H
G
H
H
H
H
H
So
this
is
the
current
plan
for
eleanor,
based
on
on
the
population
projections
that
we've
had
so,
as
you
can
see,
as
paul
said
again,
decommissioning
some
reactors
refurbishing,
some
doing
an
upgrade
decommission
upgrade
so
you'll
see
the
zigzag,
zigzag
pack
and
pattern
again
on
on
the
capacity
on
this
treatment
plan.
A
F
Just
you've
brought
up
the
constraint
issue
a
few
times
and
even
though
the
graphs
show
that,
even
with
the
current
constraints,
we've
got
well
and
true
capacity
to
2066,
but
I'm
interested
in
that
global
kind
of
scan
of
technology,
evolutions
and
whatnot
is.
Are
there
systems
around
the
world
where
pre-treatment
off-site
before
it
reaches
the
actual
main
treatment
plant?
Is
that
increasing,
like
thinking
of
that,
that
stable
and
will
be
a
pre-treatment
of
possible
industrial
sewage
before
it
came
through
the
plant
because
of
how
corrosive
and
whatnot
it
is?
F
H
Yeah
there's
a
number
of
different
ways
that
can
occur.
We
can
have
decentralized
schemes
for
bigger
developments,
so,
for
example,
if
pve
or
whatever
it's
called
now,
skyridge
could
have,
for
example,
set
up
its
own
treatment
plant.
A
little
little
package
treatment
plant,
a
bit
like
carumba
nico
village,
has
done
and
and
treat
their
sewage
to
a
degree,
and
then
it
could
come
into
our
system
and
or
just
be
released
to
the
environment.
H
F
H
So
if
we,
if
we
continue
to
build
the
way
we
have
traditionally
build,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
service
the
growing
city.
So
you
rethink
and
look
at
what's
available
out
there
in
in
the
world
and
what's
proven
in
australia,
because
you
know
it
might
work
in
holland,
but
you
know
they
don't
get
the
the
temperatures
between
19
and
35,
like
like.
We
do
here
in
in
the
city,
they're
very,
very
low
temperatures.
H
So
we
actually
have
to
look
at
all
those
considerations
when
we're
looking
at
any
any
new
nutrient
treatment
and
that's
that's
ryan's
job
and
and
his
partners
that
we
have.
We
have
a
number
of
partners
we
work
with
who
are
into
knowing
innovation
and
research
development
and
they
they
have
partner
companies
worldwide,
which
they
draw
on
to
then
help
us
in
our
process.
A
F
It
it
was
more
of
interest
structuring,
and
I
was
more
getting
to
that.
I
know
packaged
plants
in
in
other
councils
that
are
even
more
constrained
than
us
that
when
the
existing
mains
network
couldn't
handle
it
as
part
of
a
development
they'd
have
to
put
in
a
package
plan.
I
knew
it
wasn't.
It
was
just
more
out
of
interest
of
if
there
was
stuff
like
that
coming,
but
I
get
it
we're
cool
we've
got
capacity
to
2100.
yeah.
H
So,
as
I
was
talking
saying
earlier,
we
we
plan
like
this
for
years
and
and
this
current
or
this
picture
I've
got
up.
There
now
was
the
master
plan
from
about
1995
for
eleanor,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
there's
some
nice
structures
up
to
the
north.
H
The
plant,
which
happened
to
just
fall
into
where
tmr
have
currently
taken
some
land
back
bef
and
I'm
gonna
use
the
a
word
that
you
know
we
we
don't
really
like,
but
back
in
the
day
the
city
of
gold
coast
and
water
and
waste
owned
both
lots.
But
when
all
connects
came
along,
we
subdivided
and
the
existing
footprint
lot
all
connects
got
and
the
remainder
stayed
with
the
city.
H
And
then,
when
we've
come
back,
we
were
planning
to
use
what
was
left,
but
there
was
a
bit
of
kerfuffle
and
widening
of
roads
that
we
didn't
realize
that
we're
being
widened,
and
so
we
get
to
this
stage
where
that's
the
land
resumption
that
they've
currently
taken,
which
essentially
wipes
out
you
know
a
bit
of
our
plan,
which
made
us
have
a
rethink
of
how
we
have
to
do
our
treatment
plant
down
in
this
area.
H
So
as
as
I
showed
earlier
stage,
two
is
around
65
million
dollars
in
the
next
five
years
and
then
stage
three
is
is
later
in.
In
once,
tmr
gets
off
there
off
the
rest,
the
site
they
actually
are
going
to
give
some
land
back
to
us
once
they've
finished
all
their
work
and
worked
out
how
much
they
can
give
back.
Originally,
they
were
going
to
take
the
lot,
but
we
had
a
barney.
G
H
Yes,
so
this
eleanor
is
the
one
with
the
the
most
close
from
the
head
of
works
to
the
the
left,
and
the
city
has
allowed
a
subdivision
on
one
of
these
lots
on
this
side.
H
G
And
do
we
have
is,
is
there
odor
issues
with
with
the
proximity.
H
Yes,
you
will
have
seen
or
approved
back
in
2015
when
the
scheme
came
up
to
you
for
the
first
version.
First
round
of
city
plan,
you
would
have
noticed
that
was
buffer
overlays
in
those
plans
which
have
a
kilometer
buffer,
which
is
what
we
would
like
around
stps.
Each
stp
is
different
depending
on
the
size,
but
we
would
like
a
kilometer,
so
we
have
a
buffer
around
these
plants
which
allow
which
has
the
kilometer.
H
E
While
we're
open,
would
we
are
you,
okay
with
us,
resolving
the
matters
that
we
in
open
before
we
go
back
into
close
for
the
waste
modernization
presentation
I
just
have
to
leave.
I
have
to
leave
the
meeting.
A
That's
no
problem
at
all
and
I
think
after
we
do
that
we
might
go
back
into
close
and
then
just
take
a
five
minute
break
and
come
back
for
the
other
presentation.
That's
okay!
With
everybody!.
D
H
So
the
90
to
95,
000
ep
there's
5
000
ep
you
put
two
and
a
half
ep
to
a
home.
So
that's
roughly
2
000
homes.
D
A
Flexi
skip
service
that
wasn't
proposed
by
me.
I
don't
think
was
it,
it
was
yes,
it.
D
A
A
A
G
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Mcdonald
is
the
streaming
on
okay
back
into
open
any
general
business
counsellors.