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A
Welcome
to
water
waste
and
energy
committee
number
eight
one,
eight,
oh,
my
goodness.
We
have
a
full
content
contingent
of
councillors
and
can
I
welcome
councillor
gates,
councillor
pauline
young
councillor,
owen
jones
and
councillor
caldwell
as
visiting
councillors,
confirmation
of
minutes?
A
A
Welcome
councillor
castro,
no
conflict
of
dec
interest,
decorations,
no,
that's
good
councillors,
we
do
have
some
start
items
and
we
have
one
presentation
and
we
have
an
unstarred
item.
The
presentation
I'd
like
to
bring
forward
because
we
may
it
may
go
on
a
little
bit.
Our
meeting
today.
We've
got
an
item.
That's
that's
unstarred.
That
may
may
want
a
bit
of
conversation
about
so
we
might
do
the
present.
If
we
get.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
josh
evans
will
take
us
through
a
quick
presentation
and,
along
with
a
couple
of
props,
this
presentation
in
some
ways,
is
related
to
the
asset
paper
and
and
just
to
talk
about
one
of
our
assets
that
we
don't
actually
often
talk
about
our
wheelie
bins.
So
thanks
josh
thanks.
C
So
this
photo
is
courtesy
of
councillor
owen
jones
and
is
an
example
of
residents
really
sweating
here:
wheely
bin
assets,
so
our
wheelie
bins
are
exposed
to
sunlight,
they're,
degraded
by
uv
over
time
they
become
dark
and
chalky
become
brittle
and
the
sides
begin
to
crack.
So
this
is
a
pretty
good
example,
pretty
extreme
example,
but.
C
C
So
we've
undertaken
some
audits,
basically
a
sample
size,
not
the
whole
gold
coast,
but
our
audits
are
showing
us
approximately
20
of
our
wheelie
bins
need
replacement,
that's
probably
on
the
low
side
it
could
be,
could
be
higher
than
that.
C
So
it's
a
significant,
I
guess-
cost,
but
also
an
opportunity
to
do
things
a
bit
differently.
C
The
gold
coast
does
things
differently.
We've
got
a
lighter
bin
color
than
the
australian
standard
and
we're
persisted
with
that
over
time.
B
Through
you,
madam
chair,
before
our
time
or
our
collective
memories,
but
we'll
come
back
to
what
we
think
we
can
do
about
it
as
part
of
this
presentation.
So
unless
anyone
recalls
yeah
we're
not
sure
why
we
went
for
the
lighter
colors.
D
C
That's
all
right,
so
the
lighter
colored
bin
limits
us
to
incorporating
about
35
recycled
content.
So
should
we
want
to
continue
with
our
current
coloring
that'll,
be
what
we're
limited
to.
C
E
A
Just
just
out
of
a
curiosity
has
any
have
we
had
any
you
know,
residents
ring
up
and
and
picked
the
difference,
their
son.
They
may
have
another
bin
if
they'd
been
lived
in
another
area
and
not
you
know
another
town
or
something
you
never.
No
one's.
C
So,
with
this
change,
we've
got
some
opportunity
to
really
promote
it
and
consider
how
we
market
our
wheelie
bins.
So
some
councils
have
looked
at,
including
branding
on
the
side
of
the
bins
just
indicating
they're
made
of
60
recycled
content.
So
that's
another
opportunity.
C
E
A
In
my
area,
quite
a
few
residents
in
the
areas
where
there's
koalas
have
put
you
know.
People
just
been
mindful
of
koalas
in
the
area
stickers
on
their
bins,
and
we
we've
actually
tried
that
in
trialling
that
ourselves
in
simpson's
road.
E
So
I
suppose,
in
terms
of
that
marketing
and
people
taking
ownership,
I'd
be
interested
in
knowing
we
could
do
some
work
around
stickers
and
and
also
with
some
I've.
Had
some
residents
ask
whether
or
not
they
can
paint
their
bins,
because
there's
some
really
good
examples
of
painted
bins
knocking
around
as
well
so.
But
I
think
it
that
the
the
standard
answer
is
that
they're
ours
and
you
can't.
But
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
that's
something
that
we
could
also
look
at.
B
Through
you,
madam
chair,
I
think
we
can
look
at
a
number
of
opportunities
and
clearly
sometimes
the
difficulty
is
and,
as
we've
said,
we've
been
working
with
tni
about
some
speed
stickers
in
particular
areas,
and
the
challenge
is
if,
if
people,
whether
it's
stickers
or
artwork
or
something
what
what
becomes
considered
graffiti
or
you
know,
offensive
stickers
or
commercial
arrangements
or
promotion
on
our
bins.
B
But
you
know,
I
think,
there's
opportunity
to
think
through
those
sorts
of
outcomes
and
and
put
some
guidelines
potentially
in
different
areas
for
different
things,
so
happy
to
have
that
discussion.
Offline.
C
Thank
you
so
there's,
obviously,
some
significant
environmental
benefits
by
moving
towards
increasing
the
recycled
content.
Now
our
bins
so
for
every
100,
bins
that
we
use
this
increased
recycled
content,
we
drive
down
our
carbon
emissions,
reduce
water
usage
and
increase.
I
will
reduce
the
amount
of
material
to
landfill
and
drive
the
the
use
of
recycled
materials
on
the
gold
coast.
C
But
we're
certainly
looking
to
drive
with
our
new
procurement
model
sort
of
encourage
more
of
that
occurring
on
the
gold
coast.
D
B
Look
we'll
come
back
with
the
current
thinking
around
fogo,
as,
as
we've
indicated
before,
there's
various
ways
to
introduce
it.
The
the
challenge
for
us
is
that,
as
soon
as
you
introduce
at
the
cost
for
processing
of
the
green
waste,
bin
goes
up
by
about
four
fold,
which
is
a
significant
expense.
B
B
So
we've
we've
got
our
thinking
and
our
work
all
there,
as
I
say
how
we
actually
roll
it
out,
and
the
time
frame
we
do
is
almost,
as
I
say,
determined
by
both
the
market
and
state
government
policy
as
to
how
we
can
do
that
in
the
most
cost
effective
way.
B
So
we're
we're
poised
we're
in
a
good
position
as
a
city
we've
now
got,
I
think
50
000
greenway
spins,
and
that
that
continues
to
grow
each
year,
which
is
a
great
outcome,
because
that's
part
of
the
preparation,
I
think,
there's
more
opportunity
for
us
to
actively
promote
further
uptake
of
greenway
spins,
which
again
is
just
taking
us
in
the
right
direction,
because
while
we've
got
50,
000
greenway
spins,
we've
still
got
a.
You
know:
100
000
residents
that
don't
have
a
greenway
spin.
B
So
the
more
we
can
get
voluntary
uptake
of
that
as
we're
getting
the
the
private
sector
and
the
government
sector
are
ready
for
that
sort
of
opportunity.
The
better
off
we
are.
D
And
can
I
just
on
that
note
the
feedback
that
I
get
from
resident?
Obviously,
I'm
in
a
built
up
area
and
stuff
like
that
with
a
lot
of
our
residents.
Is
that
not
ordering
a
green
bin
because
they
actually
don't
have
a
lot
of
green
waste
they're
waiting
for
a
fogo
bin
because
they
actually
will
use
it
then?
D
So
I
think
it
could
be
a
bit
misleading
in
the
fact
that
when
it's
not
that
they're
not
interested
in
the
uptake
of
a
green
bin
they're
just
waiting
until
they
can
put
food
scraps
into
it,
because
a
couple
of
palm
fronds
doesn't
want
a
bin
or
and
a
lot
of
them
have
got
gardeners.
A
lot
of
unit
dwellers
have
got
gardeners.
They
don't
have
to
worry
about
it,
but
they're
waiting
for
fogo.
B
Oh
look
absolutely
and
again,
as
we've
discussed
before
the
opportunity
for
us
is,
is
we've
got
a
new
collections
contract
coming
up?
Clearly,
the
provision
of
a
of
a
greater
service
and
a
further
expansion
of
the
existing
bin
sets
are
absolutely
written
both
into
the
bin
supply
contract
in
the
bin
collection
contract.
B
So
again,
part
of
our
you
know,
strategy
and
timing
is
to
get
those
new
arrangements
in
place
prior
to
you
know,
further
proactive
steps
and-
and
that's
part
of
what
today
was
that
if
we're
going
to,
you
know,
promote
and
get
another,
you
know
100
000
bins
for
green
slash,
fogo.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
councillors
and
the
community
are
happy
that
those
new
bins
will
be
these
darker
bins,
with
obviously
a
higher
recycling
content
in
the
manufacture
of
those
bins
themselves.
D
The
whole
fogo
strategy
is
actually
included
in
our
new
contract.
Isn't
it
because
we're
I
I
don't
know
how
long
the
contract's
going
to
go
for,
but
I
imagine
you
don't
do
the
work
you're
doing
for
it
to
go
for
five
years
or
something.
So
if
we're
you
know,
you
are
increasing
the
alignment
of
all
of
the
the
different
sorts
of
wastes
and
stuff
like
that
that
we
actually
have
a
very
sound
strategy
in
there
for
going
forward
when
we're
negotiating
our
contracts.
D
B
Look
again
with
the
the
new
contract,
we
can
write
into
it
if
you
like,
essentially
whatever
we
want
to
you,
know
clearly
the
moulding
of
the
lids
and
the
bodies
is,
you
know
at
our
discretion
and
the
messages
and
and
qr
codes
or
whatever
else
we
want
to
talk
about.
Is
that
council's?
D
Okay,
well
I'm
expressing
an
interest
in
that
and,
if
you
don't
mind
chair
about
the
qr
codes,
would
that
be
something
that
the
truck
would
detect
as
the
like?
This
bin
is
associated
with
this
property.
B
Look
there's
there's
potential
and
some
places
do
that.
Absolutely
and
again,
you
know,
with
our
new
contract,
we're
contemplating
those
opportunities
into
the
future.
As
again
we've
spoken
about
you
know
down
the
track.
These
trucks
will
will
actually
potentially
weigh
the
bins
as
they
pick
them
up.
B
My
next
question,
you
know,
if
you
do,
that,
you
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
automatic
reading
and
identification
of
that
bin,
and
it's
you
know
its
owner
if
you
like
yeah
so
again
with
a
number
of
our
long-term
contracts,
we're
trying
to
incorporate
new
new
opportunities
and
new
technology
that
we
can
see
we're
on
the
cusp
of
we're
not
there
yet,
but
certainly
over
the
life
of
that
contract,
which
may
be
10
to
20
years
they're,
not
five-year
contracts.
B
B
A
Thank
you
thanks
thanks
josh
you're
up
for
the
next
presentation,
too.
Aren't
you
josh.
C
I
might
just
sit
at
the
back.
Yes,.
A
So
if
we
go
to
item
6.1,
future
use
of
suntown
landfill
site.
B
Through
your
madam
chair,
we
we
actually
don't
have
a
a
a
presentation
as
such.
I
think
we
do
have
a
map
of
that
the
site
just
to
facilitate
discussion.
If
we
want
to,
I
know.
A
It
actually
a
very
good
report.
I
found
it
very
very
good.
Do
you
want
to
start
the
questions
off
councillor
baldwin
lamston.
F
Sure
thing
chad,
thank
you,
we'll
say
it.
Thanks
to
the
director
of
the
office's
report,
it
was
very
good,
very
encompassing
obviously
just
the
the
site.
The
proposal
had
a
lot
of
community
interests
when
I
did
consultation
on
it
last
year.
F
Now
that's
back
on
the
agenda
have
had
quite
a
few
questions
come
through
would
be
nice.
Maybe
officers
can
just
touch
on
some
of
the
key
points
of
the
proposal
and,
if
possible,
chair.
Maybe
if
I
could
just
ask
question
categorize
the
questions
just
on
each
part
based
on
the
proposed
stage,
one
stage
two
and
then
a
few
other
related
issues.
If
that's
okay,
yeah
yeah.
B
Through
you,
madam
chair,
as
I
said,
there's
not
there's
not
a
great
deal
of
additional
detail
apart
from.
What's
in
the
paper
and
and
at
this
point
is
you
can
appreciate
this-
this
is
a
work
in
progress.
B
We've
proposed
what
we've
thought
in
a
general
concept,
what's
in
stage
one
what's
in
stage
two
and
and
in
areas,
but
it
clearly,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
provide
a
concept,
have
a
discussion
both
with
counselors
in
the
community,
and
then
we
revise
that
the
proposal
and
develop
more
detail
and
then
bring
it
back
again
and
and
go
through.
I
would
expect
a
number
of
iterations
before
we
have,
if
you
like,
an
agreed,
a
scope
for
for
each
stage,
and
you
know
timing
for
that.
A
Okay,
I
think
ken,
I
think,
did
you
just
have
one
question
counselor
gates,
because
I
think
you've
got
a
couple.
F
B
Through
your
madam
chair,
I
think
the
first
thing
again
is
is,
if
committee
and
and
council
support,
you
know
the
general
concept
here
in
the
first
place,
then
we
would
come
and
sit
down
with
with
particularly
yourself,
but
we've
got
a
number
of
counsellors
who,
if
you
like,
surround
this
site,
I
think
there's
about
four
divisions.
I
circumnavigate
this
this
site,
so
we
would
come
to
each
of
the
councillors
and
discuss.
B
How
would
we
actually
progress
to
the
next
step
of
of
consultation
and
we're
open,
as
I
say,
to
doing
that
in
conjunction
with
each
of
the
divisional
counselors,
which
which
may
be
slightly
different
in
different
areas
or
different
interests?
B
But
we
have
no
again
a
detailed
plan
or
program
developed
at
this
stage,
but
you
know
we
would
expect
that
we
would
use
all
of
the
traditional
approaches,
whether
that's
you
know,
letter
box
drop
or
using
some
of
those
social
media
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
But
I
think,
as
we
move
forward,
it
would
be
good
that
we're
clearly
all
aligned
and
we
do
that
collaboratively
to
get
the
best
outcome
in
the
shortest
possible
time
frame.
F
B
Look
absolutely
but
the
the
initial,
a
large
part
of
the
initial
construction
that
we
would
envisage
and
given
if
the
concept
is
is
approved,
would
be
associated
with
upgrading
the
entrance
access
roads
etc,
which
we
think
are
hopefully
relatively
non-controversial.
B
So
we
could
commence
that
work.
While
you
know
continuing
the
consultation
we
wouldn't
jump
in
and
build,
you
know
a
a
processing
plan
for
anything
in
particular.
You
know,
as
part
of
the
first
stage
would
be
that
preparation
works,
as
I
say,
for
access
or
or
other
earth
works.
If
you
like
in
in
preparation
for
that,
and
they
would
take
clearly
sometime
a
couple
of
months
to
get
through.
So
you
know,
we've
got
further
time
to
clarify
those
other
scope
and
activities
on
site.
D
Thanks
chair,
I
just
want.
I
I
have
just
two
very
broad
comments
to
make.
One
is
my
general
support
for
the
green
organics
expansion,
which
clearly
is
necessary,
given
the
helensvale
situation.
So
I
wanted
to
be
clear
on
my
support
for
that,
and
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
my
lack
of
support
for
the
general
concept
of
the
stage
2
relocation
of
my
catcher
speedway.
D
I
I
I'm
not
on
this
committee,
so
I'm
not
able
to
move
anything.
If
I
were
on
it,
I
would
be
moving
that
that
be
excluded
from
the
stage
to
planning,
and
that's
because
of
I
guess
the
experience
I've
had
in
the
relocation
of
a
cart
club
some
20
years
ago
that
still
hasn't
found
another
site
within
our
city
to
this
day,
and
so
I
certainly
would
not
support
the
stage
2
expansion,
including
that
facility,
so
they're
just
comments
chair
that
I
wanted
to
yeah
and
that
probably
leads.
F
You
chad,
both
those,
definitely
do
stuff.
Just
the
my
catchy
related
questions.
Obviously
I
think
they're,
a
great
club
and
a
lot
of
the
community
does
they
have
mentioned
previously
about
relocation,
they'd
be
happy
to
relocate
if
appropriate
land
was
found
for
them.
B
Through
human
chain,
no
by
no
means,
as
I
said
at
the
start,
this
was
a
a
concept
plan
and
it
was,
you
know,
envisaging
a
a
possible
future
as
per
this
paper
that
there's
no
resolution
or
decision
to
be
made
around
stage
two
or
future
stages,
we're
simply
asking,
as
as
I
said,
and
as
further
recommendations
that
that
council
endorse
that
the
concept
for
stage
one
everything
else
is:
if
you
like,
a
matter
for
discussion
and
an
appropriate
investigation
and
landing
at
whatever
position
you
know,
council
and
and
the
community
are,
are
comfortable
with
into
the
future.
A
E
In
regards
to
my
catcher,
I'm
assuming
that
the
and
I
could
be
wrong,
but
the
entire
site
is
gold,
coast,
waste
and
water,
or
is
that
part
of
the
site?
The
asset
custodian
is
lifestyle.
B
E
E
So
the
council
could
provide
you
with
some
clear
direction
in
terms
of
limiting
future
stages
to
the
gold
coast,
western
water
site.
Did
you
have
direct
custody
over
at
the
moment
and
making
it
clear
that
the
smaller
site
remains
available
for
recreational
purposes,
which
I
think
might
go
a
long
way
towards
satisfying
rbl's
concerns?
E
The
top
of
my
head
that
I
can
think
of
that
they
might
be
able
to
go
to
would
be
near
the
kimball
waste
treatment
plant,
which
is
your
asset.
So,
like
I
mean
the
idea
of
pushing
them
out
of
here
over
to
there,
I
just
I
just
can't
see
it,
but
it
might.
It
may
help
you
if
we
give
you
a
clear
political
direction.
E
That
effectively
is
that
we'll
leave
that
with
lifestyle
and
and
that's
the
long-term
intent
of
the
city
to
be
able
to
provide
a
space
for
junior
motorcycle
kids
to
have
a
go
and
in
20
years
time
they'll
all
be
electrical,
and
you
won't
be
able
to
hear
them
anyway.
B
Look
at
absolutely
through
your
madame
chair:
there
are
other
sites
and
again
you
know
this.
This
paper
was
not
about
the
the
motorcycle
club,
as
I
said,
we're
seeking
endorsement
about
stage
one
and
the
the
area
that
we
currently
manage.
We're
merely
outlining
a
concept
and
the
future
decisions
that
may
be
made.
B
Yeah
like,
as
I
said,
council,
I've
got
no
background.
B
I
know
the
discussion
has
occurred
in
the
past
and
and
as
councillor
well
knows,
land
is
in
limited
supply
in
the
city
and
and
it's
up
to
council
decide
the
best
and
and
most
effective
use
of
all
of
its
land
and
assets
across
the
city,
we're
not
seeking
to
influence
that
we're
seeking
to
suggest
that
we
can
use
our
existing
area,
we
believe
for
other
purposes
again.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
a
council's
decision
when
that
decision
needs
to
be
made.
B
F
The
other
one,
sorry
I'll,
we'll
preface
this
by
sorry.
There
are
a
few
questions,
but
when
this
was
first
raised
last
year,
there's
a
lot
of
community
interest.
I'd
later
boxed
the
thousand
homes
most
I'm
in
close
proximity
to
the
suntown
site.
Did
a
poll
got
feedback?
There
was
a
lot
of
community
support
for
a
green
waste
pad,
which
was
what
my
understanding
was
the
proposal
at
the
time
for
other
councillors.
So
I
led
a
box.
A
thousand
homes
had
83.3
percent
support
for
grain
waste
pad
at
suntown.
F
So
I'd,
imagine,
there's
gonna,
be
a
lot
of
people
quite
positive
about
it,
but
I
did
have
a
few
questions
and
I
guess
through
you
chair.
Some
of
these
will
probably
just
be
yes
or
no
questions
if
I'm
able
to
maybe
just
rattle
them
off.
So
first
off
is
there's
still
testing
of
landfill.
These
are
all
questions
from
residents
and
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
answered,
even
though
some
of
them
were
in
the
report,
there
still
testing
of
landfill
gas
and
leachate
at
the
suntown
sites
in
the
surrounding
areas.
F
B
No,
not
specifically,
except
all
of
that
infrastructure
on
the
side,
has
to
be
maintained
over
the
next.
You
know
whatever
it
is
10
to
20
years.
So
what
can
actually
actively
occur
on
that
side
has
to
take
that
constraint
into
account.
Okay,.
F
And
because
the
officers
that
drafted
this
proposal
with
stage
one
and
two
they're
aware
of
all
the
infrastructure,
that's
there
for
landfill
gas
and
leachate
and
yeah,
absolutely
okay,
sorry
councillor
gates,
it's
just
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of.
Oh
okay,
no
worries!
Oh
I've
got
it's
to
be
here
a
while
keep.
A
A
F
Well,
let's
talk
construction
in
the
report.
Is
it
potential
there's
a
potential
for
any
construction
to
interfere
with
the
infrastructure,
that's
in
place
for
the
landfill
gas
or
the
leachate?
F
No,
no
okay,
then
another
one
was
just
our
office
is
aware
of
any
problems
encountered
at
former
runway
bay,
landfill
site
and
that
being
built
on
prematurely
specifically
related
to
leachate
or
landfill
gas.
B
Yes,
absolutely
the
the
areas
identified
for
stage.
One,
however,
are
obviously
in
an
area
that
wasn't
the
main
landfilling
zone.
So
that's
why
that
is.
If
you
like
the
stage
one
area,
because
the
the
bulk
of
the
area
you
know,
hatched
to
the
south
of
the
site
is
over
the
the
main
active
landfill
area
and
that
still
needs,
as
we
say,
another
10
to
20
years
to
stabilize
before
we
construct
anything
of
any
serious
nature
there.
Okay.
F
F
Okay,
so
for
the
green
waste
pad,
as
I
said,
when
consultation
was
done,
there
was
a
lot
of
community
support,
for
that
is
that
a
permissible
activity
at
the
site?
So
can
we
reactivate
some
form
of
waste
and
recycling
activity
at
suntown.
B
Yes,
we
can
that
that
will
require
any
any
activity
that
we
do.
That
say
requires
a
license
under
legislation.
We
would
obviously
seek
that
license
and
and
comply
with
the
environmental
conditions
outlined
by
department
of
environment
and
science
under
that
appropriate
license,
but
that
would
that
license.
Application
will
only
occur
once
we've.
B
If
you
like,
finalize
the
design
or
the
concept
for
that
site,
then
we
would
submit
and
and
actually
get
the
you
know
all
going
well
get
the
appropriate
license.
Okay,.
F
Thank
you
and
again
through
youtube.
Just
for
the
green
waste
pad
vision,
green
waste
would
remain
permanently
at
the
site.
B
Look
is
is
per
any
of
our
sites
that
that
would
be
the
intent,
but
you
know
subject
to
future
business
requirements.
I
mean
apologies.
I
mean
the
actual
material
being
taken.
F
B
No,
no,
it
would
be
like
all
of
our
other
green
waste
pads
where
material
is
collected
and
then
regularly
processed
and
taken
back
off-site.
So
it's
it's
not
for
long-term
storage
or
detailed
processing.
It's
for
collection,
bulking
up
and
transport
off,
okay
and
question.
B
Yes,
we'd
anticipate
it.
It
would
because
that's
the
efficiency
of
of
collecting
it
on
ground,
and
I
appreciate.
B
Oh,
look
that
would
that
would
again
depend
on
the
the
the
noise
and
the
volume
and
activity
we
use
a
process
of
well.
We
call
it
slow
grinding
if
that's
that
technical
term,
which
is
that
the
noise
produced
by
that
is,
is
not
the
noise
that
people
would
experience
when
they.
You
know
the
tree,
loppers
come
around
the
town
and
then
they
got
the
van
in
the
back,
and
you
hear
this
high-pitched
and
screaming
cat
noise
or
chainsaw
noise.
B
This
is
low
level,
it's
actually
much
less
than
if
you're
like
just
a
a
normal
vehicle
operation.
E
E
I'd
actually
be
interested
in
lis
hearing
how
loud
it
is
next
time
it's
at
the
pimp,
kumara
green
waste
pad,
because
I
think
ryan
that
might
help
with
your
arundel
residence,
because,
whilst
there's,
I
don't
think
in
the
green
waste
pad
there's
smell
or
dust
issues,
that
potentially
is
a
noise
issue
so
it'd
be,
I
think,
it'd
be
useful
to
know
what
that
might
look
like.
B
F
Okay,
I
think
thank
chair
through
that.
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
because
that
was
counselloran
jones
just
probably
touched
on
next
four
questions,
which
was
will
be
processed
machinery.
Where
is
it
located?
How
noisy
is
it
when's
it
operating?
So
there
are
definitely
things
that
residents
whether
they
were
for
or
against
the
proposal.
They
did
have
questions
about
the
potential
noise
issues
on
the
topic
of
noise.
They
also
were
curious
about
vehicle
numbers
and
whether
there'd
be
issues
with
reversing
of
trucks
and
those
kind
of
things.
B
Again,
any
any
environmental
license
to
operate
here
will
actually
contain
conditions
around
noise,
odors
dust
et
cetera
as
it
will
on
any
site.
So
that
would
be
that
the
primary
control
that
we
work
to
and
and
those
limits
are
set
by
des
based
on
what
they
call
sensitive
receptors.
B
So
how
far
away
our
residents
live,
or
whatever
else
occurs
in
terms
of
visitor
numbers,
it's
clearly
difficult
to
ascertain
that
in
terms
of
green
waste,
our
thinking
and
our
sizing
of
the
facility
will
be
very
similar
to
what
we've
started
with
at
the
pimpama
site.
So
again
that
would
be
a
you
know
useful
and
we
can
provide
that
information
and,
as
I
say,
a
facilitator
visit
to
that
site.
B
As
you
can
probably
see
on
the
on
the
diagram,
there
is
a
loop
road
you
know,
and
part
of
that
is
that
people
can
come
in
and
drop
stuff
off
and
and
drive
out
again,
so
whether
that's
visitors,
bringing
material
or
trucks
moving
off
site
that
you
know
that
that
circular
access
provides
limited
opportunity,
for
you
know,
beepers
or
or
other
sorts
of
noise
generation.
F
Because,
on
the
question
of
that
road,
that
was
one
of
the
questions
related
to
dust
was:
is
there
a
sealed
road
that
people
would
be
driving
on
the
hallway
or
is
it
gravel
road.
B
Look,
we
would
anticipate
allowing
commercial
use,
but
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
the
detail.
As
we
indicated,
there
is
a
a
previous
way
bridge
on
that
site
that
and
that's
what
you
need
to
facilitate
commercial
use
so
reactivating
that
that
way,
bridge
site.
We
think
at
this
stage
would
be
cost
effective
and,
and,
as
I
said,
that
would
then
facilitate
commercial
use.
F
B
Look
again
absolutely,
but
you
know,
as
per
the
pimpama
site,
and
but
again
we
can
provide
details
on
the
history
of
that.
Clearly,
when
we
first
opened
it,
we
had,
you
know
two
men
and
a
dog
come,
but
as
we
promoted
it
more
and
as
the
community
got
more
aware
of
it,
you
know
we
had
a
a
significant
growth
in
in
usage
over
the
12
months
and
that
continues
to
grow.
So
we
would
expect
the
same
sort
of
thing
here.
B
And
again,
in
in
terms
of
license
conditions,
there's
generally,
you
know
different
license
conditions
for
different
size
facilities.
So
if
it
grows
and
gets
up
to
a
limit,
we
would
have
to
go
back
to
des
to
re-examine
what's
being
done
there
and
whether
additional
needs
to
be
done
because
there
are
more
visitors
or
more
material
being
collected.
So
again,
it's
a
it's
a
you
know,
ongoing
process.
If
you
like
of
build
it
and
they
will
come
and
then
we'll
see,
you
know
how
many
do
come.
Okay,.
F
B
We
anything
that
goes
to
landfill.
Absolutely
we
pay
our
charges
on,
but
our
green
waste
bin
does
not
go
to
the
land.
F
The
general
waste,
the
red
lidded
bin,
so
if
someone
puts
their
palm
fronds
in
the
red
lid
bin,
that
landfill
will
pay
for
that,
that's
exactly
right!
Sorry,
that's,
oh
good!
So
anything
that's
dropped
off
here
will
not
go
to
landfill.
No,
no,
okay,
so
obviously
without
knowing
the
quantum
it's
hard,
but
based
on
other
green
waste
pads
in
the
city.
Does
that
represent
a
big
saving
for
the
city.
B
F
For
residents
that
are
using,
if
they're,
using
the
green
waste
pad
just
obviously
south
of
that's
where
the
landfill
used
to
be
and
all
the
underground
infrastructure
there
is
there
going
to
be
something
in
place
to
prevent
anyone
from
accessing
that
part
of
the
site
and
potentially
damaging
or
interfering
with
the
infrastructure?
That's
there.
B
Look
again,
that's
part
of
detailed
design.
If
we
believe
that
we
need
to
put
in
a
fence
line,
you
know
around
stage
one
if
you
like,
then
then
we
will
do
that.
We
will
this.
This
will
be
a
a
a
managed
site.
There
will
be
staff
here
on
the
site,
who
will
obviously
direct
both
the
public
and
or
contractors
but
yeah.
Certainly
if
we
believe
that
a
barrier
along
that
length
is
is
appropriate,
we'll
put
that
in
okay.
F
Actually,
I
just
thought
now
just
we're
on
the
topic
of
fences.
One
of
the
questions
was
down
near
the
energex
substation.
There's
a
section,
that's
not
fenced,
and
what
we're
getting
is
kangaroos,
leaving
the
suntown
site
onto
napa
road
in
front
of
the
primary
school
which
is
leading
to
unfavorable
outcomes
in
front
of
the
primary
school
just
wondering
if
we
can
get
that
section.
Offense
closed.
B
B
Not
available
desirable
to
have
open
access
and
and
wildlife
coming
out
there
yeah
so
yeah
we'll
certainly
have
a
look
at
that
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
rectify
that
cool,
because.
F
That
was,
I
guess,
somewhat
separate
issue
to
what's
been
proposed
here,
but
would
be
keen
to
see
that
rectified
sooner
rather
than
later
for
the
the
recyclable
sorting
facility.
Probably
a
lot
of
the
questions
will
be
quite
similar
to
the
greenway
so
I'll
brush
over
those,
but
who
would
operate
that,
would
it
be
council,
operated
or
third
party
for
the
section
off
to
the
side
of
the
green
waste
pad.
B
Look
as
I
said
this,
this
would
be
a
a
overall,
a
a
council
site
and-
and
if
you
like,
managed
by
our
staff,
we
anticipate
there
would
be
areas,
as
we've
indicated
in
the
report
that
are
potentially
dedicated
to
community
groups,
to
you,
know,
operate
or
conduct
activities,
as
well
as
commercial
groups
to
conduct
and
operate
activities,
and
they
would
be
responsible
for
that.
You
know
sub-area
or
some
set
of
the
area.
B
You
know
activities
that
are
commercial
in
nature
and
that
are
well
established.
You
know
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
council
to
replicate
that,
but
to
lease
those
those
areas
out
to
those
commercial
businesses
to
do
it,
but
again
we've
got
no.
If
you
like
hardened
set
rules,
we
will
develop
those
concepts
and
and
those
arrangements
as
appropriate
as
we
as
we
go
through
and
develop
the
site.
Okay,.
F
Because
I
know
that
suntan
was
kind
of
first
brought
community
attention
in
the
flexi
skip
report
we
had
last
year.
Is
it
still
anticipated
there
might
be
space
for
flexi
skip
at
the
site
to
do
their
sorting
and.
B
F
Okay,
so
at
this
stage
do
we
know,
maybe
what
kind
of
materials
would
be
getting
sorted
there?
Just
because
one
of
the
questions
relating
to
noise
again
in
return
in
terms
of
metal,
sheeting
and
glass
and
that
sort
of
thing.
B
B
This
site,
we
don't
anticipate
clearly
we're
well
aware
at
a
number
of
our
waste
and
recycling
centres
where
we
have
big
bins
and
people
come
in
and
you
know
drop
stuff
from
a
a
great
height.
You
know,
metal
or
glass
or
whatever
else,
dropping
that
in
an
empty
bin,
makes
a
lot
of
noise
and-
and
is
you
know,
potentially
a
generator
of
that.
We
don't
anticipate
that
at
this
site.
Okay,
but
again,
that's
that's
part
of
our.
A
Council,
I
think
it's
safe
to
go
back
to
your
constituents
and
and
with
with
the
good
news
that
we're
only
really
considering
green
waste
at
this
stage
and
also
the
fact
that
you
know-
and
I
think
you're
going
to
put
another
paragraph
on
to
the
recommendation
that
we
that
will
guarantee
that
that
the
my
catcher's
motorcycle
group
stay.
There.
Is
there
anything
else
that
that.
F
Yeah,
I
was,
I
was
finished
with
that
stage.
One
I
think
stage
one's
great
in
the
sense
that
anything
that's
being
recycled
is
not
going
to
landfill
and
long
term
is
going
to
be
a
cost
saving
for
the
city
and
for
obviously
the
rate
payer
as
well.
So
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
there
is
support
for
very
broad
support
for
stage
one
and
not
just
within
division.
Seven,
I
know
counselor
caldwell
and
council
owen
jones,
as
residents
I
saw
online,
were
very
supportive
of
having
somewhere
to
go
besides.
F
Helensvale
just
had
a
couple
questions,
a
couple
more
on
just
the
environmental
aspect
and
stage
two.
If
that's
okay,
yep
yep,
thanks
for
the.
F
Environmental
aspect,
those
questions
about-
is
there
any
tree
clearing
proposed
for
the
site?
No,
not
at
this
stage,
it's
so
good.
That
was
the
next
question.
Is
there
any
proposed
revegetation
at
the
site.
B
We
have
to
understand
over
on
on
landfill
sites.
Is
that
water
is
not
our
friend
on
a
landfill
site.
Whenever
you
have
water
coming
into
a
landfill,
it
generates
leachate
and
it
actually
pushes
gas
out.
B
So
in
the
past,
such
as
this
site
and
and
other
sites,
there
was
a
view
that
planting
trees
over
landfills
was
a
good
thing
that
has
been
proven
not
to
be
the
case
because
trees,
through
their
roots
and
they're
disturbing
of
the
soil,
actually
provide
pathways
for
water
to
get
into
a
landfill
site.
B
So
at
this
stage,
and
I'm
talking
again
now
for
20
years,
you
know
in
50
years
down
the
track.
People
may
you
know,
and
the
city
may
take
a
different
view,
but
in
the
short
to
medium
term
we
have
no
plans
to
actually
plant
additional
trees
over
landfill
sites
at
all,
because,
as
I
say
that
that's
what
causes
and
generates
and
contributes
to
the
two
negative
impacts
of
of
landfill
sites.
Okay,
so
it
makes.
F
Sense,
yeah
that
was
very
helpful
answer.
Thank
you
director.
That's
what
was
just,
I
guess,
on
the
solar
farm
proposal.
F
Proposal,
just
where
did
the
idea
for
solar
farm
at
site
come
from
and
do
we
think
that's
the
best
use
for
that.
B
Look
again,
it's
one
of
the
options,
one
of
the
opportunities
for
large,
clear
areas
that
are
still
unstable
in
terms
of
their
foundations,
which
is
exactly
what
our
landfill
site
is,
because
settlement
will
continue
to
occur.
As
we
say
for
the
next
10
to
20
years.
B
B
It's
built
on
foundations
that
can
move
and
adjust
based
on,
as
I
say,
water,
but
the
the
real
spin-off
for
us
is
that
that's
actually
ideal
that
sort
of
installation
for
landfill
sites
where
you
can
get
productive
use
for
it.
Now.
B
The
the
proposal
at
this
site
is
not
to
come
in
next
week
and
cover
it
in
in
solar
panels.
The
intent
was
based
on
stage
development
of
this
site
over
many
years,
there's
a
real
potential
that
we
would
develop
solar
as
an
alternative
energy
to
support
any
activities
that
are
happening
on
that
site.
B
So,
for
example,
as
as
many
people
would
know
down
in
the
bottom
corner,
we've
got
a
community
center
just
adjacent
and
we've
got
a
an
area
where
we
have
some
community
groups
that
do
some
great
work
with
recycling
bicycles.
B
The
first
stage
of
solar
panels
could
be
simply
enough
to
provide
energy
to
those
two
buildings
and
those
facilities,
and
in
that
way
we
we
support
again
activities
that
are
really
sustainable
and
community
based
on
that
site.
B
B
Solar
panels
typically
have
a
life
of
10
to
20
years,
so
that
investing
and
putting
something
in
in
that
time
frame
means
that
when
they
get
to
the
end
of
their
life,
you
know
the
rest
of
the
site
could
be
suitable
for
other
uses
or
other
development.
A
Okay,
I'll
just
go
to
counsellor.
E
E
A
E
It's
actually
the
perfect
place
to
have
solar
and
not
only
that
it's
immediately
adjacent
to
existing
heavy
industry
as
well.
So
it's
right
there
on
the
grid,
so
I
think
it's
actually
it
it's
a
really
good
15-year
type
of
use
and
then
by
then
the
city,
hopefully,
will
be
in
the
business
of
well
and
truly
recycling
the
solar
panels
that
are
made
reaching
the
end
of
their
life.
So
so
I
think
the
residents
that
see
it
as
an
industrial
use.
E
I
actually
see
it
as
maximizing
the
use
of
land
that
can't
be
used
otherwise
and
and
the
sunshine
coast
council
invested
all
of
that
money
in
a
cane
field,
solar
system
which
accidentally
filled
with
water
in
one
of
the
floods,
but-
and
that's
not
going
to
happen
on
this
site.
So
I
actually
think
there's
a
it's.
A
corker
of
a
use
for
the
site.
B
The
current
lane
use
is
not
incompatible
with
that
with
a
solar
farm,
but
but
it's
actually
subject
to
a
business
case.
If,
if
we
were
to
cover
the
whole
site,
I
mean
we,
we
have
to
work
up
the
business
case
and
get
a
you
know.
If
we're
going
to
export
off
the
site,
it's
got
to
be
subject
to
a
deal
with
interjects,
etc,
etc.
But,
as
we
say,
our
first
stage
of
thinking
is
that
we
support
what
we
call
behind
the
meter,
so
it
would
support
activities
on
the
site
and
we'd.
A
F
We'll
say
again,
there
was
community
appetite
for
solar
and
also
for
the
passive
recreational
use
during
consultation
people.
When
I
was
saying
what's
your
thoughts
on
green
waste,
I
actively
had
residents
saying
well
can't
you
chuck
some
solar
panels.
Why
can't
you
open
it
up
for
nature
walks,
so
what
offices
put
here
really
did
kind
of
touch
on
every
component
that
was
raised
during
consultations?
That
was
really
good
to
see.
Question
just
on
the
solar
was.
Has
council
sought
any
kind
of
expert
advice
on
that
their
concern
was
unstable,
landfill
land.
F
You
said
we're
not
going
to
obviously
pierce
the
land.
Have
we
used
these
floating
kind
of
solar
panels
on
any
other
landfill
sites
in
the
city.
B
Now,
that's
not
to
say
that
you
know
they
would
get
the
the
job
to
do
that,
but
while
we
haven't
done
it
in
the
city,
it's
well
established
in
in
other
locations,
okay,.
F
B
B
We're
currently
doing
some
work
again
down
in
the
the
south
of
the
site.
Where
I
mentioned
before,
we
already
have
a
bicycling
up
a
bicycle
recycling
facility,
a
community
group
services,
paradise
rotary
club
turn
bicycles
into
wheelchairs
for
less
developed
countries,
we're
currently
actively
working
on
a
project
to
see
if
we
can
attract
other
community
groups
to
that
area,
who
also
use
bicycles
for
various
things,
including
just
repairing
and
returning
to
the
community,
and
that's
really
what
we
want
to
see.
B
You
know
the
city
generally
has
community
halls
or
facilities
for
you
know
community
groups
to
meet
and
do
things
we
we
really
want
to
activate
this
site,
for
if
you
like
action
and
outcomes
rather
than
buildings
that
that
sit,
you
know
dormant.
If
you
like,
for
periods
of
time.
Well,
I
guess.
B
Well,
look,
as
I
said,
our
first
concept
is:
is
the
bicycle
area
down
to
the
south.
We've
got
a
project
officer
working
on
that
at
the
moment.
B
We
we
hope
to
have
a
report
back
in
that
the
middle
of
this
year
july,
slash
august
or
even
earlier,
but
no,
I
think
july,
slash
august
to
see
if
our
concept
will
will
actually
work
depending
what
that
comes
back
with,
and
particularly
in
that
that
southern
area,
you
know
we
could
progress
some
development
there.
You
know,
certainly
within
the
next
12
months,
depending
on
what
you
know.
The
concept
concept
is
the
rest
of
the
site,
particularly
this.
B
This
area
here
is
we
we
highlighted
clearly
and
and
it's
sort
of
gets
back
to
the
discussion
before
about
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
council
making
decisions
about,
what's
the
the
best
use
for
its
land
and
its
facilities
that
that
most
of
stage,
one
is
currently
used
for
storage
of
gc
500
materials
that
that
has
to
find
another
home
and
we've
been
working
closely
with
lifestyle
and
community
again
about
those
opportunities.
E
E
Second,
in
regards
to
the
money
proposed
in
stage
one
for
the
entry
statement
and
inverted
commas.
So
there
was
some
work
about
entry,
and
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
it
was
just
the
the
road
works.
Will
there
be
towers,
not
dissimilar
or
little
guard
houses
not
dissimilar
to
what
was
installed
at
helensvale.
It
might
lead
residents
to
automatically
assume
that
we're
going
to
introduce
gate
fees
or
can
we
maybe
make
sure
that
we're
a
little
bit
more
subtle
about
what
we
do
at
this
time.
E
So
because
that
was
the
challenge
with
stage
three
of
helensvale
weiss
recycle
centre
as
soon
as
they
saw
the
little
sentry
boxes
turn
up,
and
I
know
that
just
officers
use
them
in
terms
of
providing
shade,
but
the
automatic
assumption
was
we
were
introducing
gate
fees
and
it
and
it
got
us
on
the
back
foot
right
from
day.
One.
B
Superman
chair
there
there
is,
as
I
say,
a
weighbridge
facility
there
already.
If,
if
we're
going
to
accept
a
commercial
green
waste
at
this
site,
we
will.
B
Not
directly
and
that's
based
on
again
environmental
requirements
for
control
of
weeds
and
and
fire
ants,
we
are
unable
based
on
material.
That's
that's
dropped
on
the
site
to
and,
as
we
said,
our
intent
is
not
to
hold
material
on
site
or
process
it
for
long
periods
and
to
ensure
eradication
of
of
weeds
and
fire
ants
amongst
other
pests.
E
Hold
it
there,
so
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
that
that's
a
it's
a
question
that
gets
asked.
I
think
in
particular
from
interstate
residents
who,
where
it
is
available,
they
may
not
have
to
deal
with
fire
ants,
so
I
think,
being
able
to
at
least
have
a
quick
answer
is
beneficial.
Thank
you.
F
Missed
one:
okay,
just
about
the
for
the
environmental
section.
If
we
were
to
open
the
site
for
green
waste,
would
we
be
looking
to
also
fence
the
proposed
environmental
area
from
people
accessing
the
site.
B
B
There
is
no
internal
fence
line
between
that
area
and
the
rest
of
the
landfill,
and
so
again,
if
people
are
comfortable
with
that
as
a
general
concept,
we
would
go
away
and
do
further
work
and,
and
potentially,
as
I
say,
come
back
and
say
well,
we
need
to
control
people
coming
into
that
area
and
that
they
don't
go
in
and
access
the
the
main
site.
So
yeah
then
there'd
be
a
strong
potential
that
we'd
put
in
some
fencing
internal
fencing.
I
think
it'd
be.
F
Variable,
I
think,
there'd
be
a
lot
of
people
eager
to
use
the
space
if
the
walking
trails
are
opened,
and
I
know
that
it's
regularly
used
by
wires
and
wild
care
and
things
as
a
release.
Point
for
animals,
they've,
nurtured
back
and
then
releasing
back
into
the
world.
They've
seen
it
as
a
good,
safe
spot
that
the
majority
is
all
fenced
and
whatnot.
Just
if
we've
got
cars
coming
in
to
use
the
green
pad,
I
think
it'd
be
good
to
have
that
secured.
There.
B
I
think
we
gotta
we
gotta
recognize.
Obviously
we
do
have
koalas
and
kangaroos
on
the
site
and
they
currently
move
throughout
the
whole
site
unimpeded.
So
if
we
were
to
put
internal
fences,
that
would
be
a
constraint
on
their
movement
as
well
as
people,
so
I'm
not
sure
we've
got
a
fence
yet
that
stops
people
but
not
koalas
and
kangaroos.
But
we
can
look
at
that.
No
worries.
A
A
I'm
sort
of
too
yeah
I'm
sort
of
sensing
that
there
is,
you
know,
support
support
for
stage
one,
but
certainly,
I
think,
not
support
for
including
the
motorcycle
track
in
stage
two
and
just
leaving
their
lease,
as
is,
if
you've
got
some
words
to
add
to.
F
Wording
just
while
I
was
asking
all
my
questions,
I
think
counts.
Rowan
jones
knew
what
I
was
hoping
to
achieve
and
kindly
wrote
some
words
for
me.
While
I
was
asking
questions
so
yeah
yeah,
if
you
got
what
he
wrote,
I
read
it
after.
He
gave
it
to
me
and
I
think
that
encapsulates
my
catches
is
a
great
group.
They've
been
around
for
39
years,
they've
been
there
for
37
years,
a
very
good
club
they've
got
a
community
day
on
the
21st.
F
If
anyone
wants
to
go
along
and
see
what
they
do,
junior
motorcycle
yeah
that
club
down
the
21st
is
actually
the
memorial
day
for
anthony
gordon.
He
was
the
young
boy
that
passed
away
in
competition
last
year.
That's
it'll
be
a
very
important
club
day
for
for
my
catchers
in
there.
So.
A
F
You'd
like
to
speak
briefly,
yeah
be
very
brief.
It
was
impo
important
site
for
this,
not
just
the
local
area,
but
for
the
city.
The
sustainability
proposal
has
been
greater
from
what
I've
seen
it's
been
very
well
received
by
the
community.
I
think
people
really
do
understand
that
it's
important.
We
change
our
mindset
that
we
can't
just
keep
sending
things
to
landfill,
that
we
need
to
look
to
options
where
we
can
recycle
upcycle
reuse.
F
All
those
different
components
what's
been
proposed
here
definitely
does
that
and
it
has
all
the
nice
add-on
options
of
space
for
community
groups,
environmental
walking,
trails,
protection
of
native
wildlife,
some
of
which
have
recently
been
named
endangered.
So
I
think
putting
all
those
different
bits
in
place
just
really
does
show
it's
a
very
all-encompassing
site
and
it'll
keep
being
important
for
the
city.
So
thanks
to
the
officers
for
what
they've
done
and
I'm
sure
we'll
continue
to
do,.
A
Any
speakers
against
any
speakers
for
I
just
I
might
just
add
that
I
think
it's
fantastic-
that
we'll
open
up
a
facility
for
green
waste
that
obviously
will
give
another
option
for
a
lot
of
residents
who
live
in
that
area
and
sort
of
take
the
ease
of
congestion
off
some
of
our
other
recycle
centres.
So
that's
great
effort.
Thank
you.
All!
Those
in
favor,
that's
carried
unanimous
general
business.
Has
anyone
got
any
general
business?