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From YouTube: Interview with David Whitney
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David Whitney is a candidate running for the .NET Foundation Board.
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A
A
B
Amazing
so
well,
I
guess
my
name's
david
and
I'm
that
wrong
meeting.
I
just
I'm
thrilled
to
be
having
this
conversation,
so
I'm
an
independent
software
consultant
from
london
in
the
uk
and
have
in
previous
lives.
Probably
I've
had
very
serious
corporate
sounding
job
titles
like
chief
technical
architect
and
lead
principal
engineer
and
head
of
engineering
at
a
bunch
of
uk
household
names,
just
giving
trainline
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
I
always
do
the
sales
pitch.
B
I
wrote
a
couple
of
best-selling
kids
books
about
programming
which
look
a
lot
better
because
of
the
work
the
illustrators
did
than
the
work
I
did
available
at
all
good
book
stores,
but
really
what
I
really
care
about
is
people
that
love
programming
and
helping
them
do
programming
and
be
lovely
to
each
other.
Honestly,
like
I'm,
I'm
one
of
these
I'll
you'll
pry,
my
keyboard
out
my
cold
dead
hands,
lifers
and
I
just
love
building
wild
things
for
fun
that
aren't
things
that
are
just
forced
to
exist
by
companies.
B
I
mean:
is
it
a
copper
answer
to
say
everything
for
like
really
really
kind
of
everything?
Honestly
there's
a
bit
of
a
truism?
Isn't
there
that,
like
the
the
newest
thing,
is
often
the
most
exciting
point
in
any
process,
but
I
think
we're
in
this
middle
of
a.net.net
renaissance
really
like
as
a
platform,
I
feel
like
it's
holding
all
the
cards
the
languages
hosted
on.
It
are
rapidly
evolving
to
changing
demands
of
the
marketplace
and
you
know,
change
can
be
controversial
and
people
get
to
argue
about
it.
But
change
is
good.
It's
always
good.
B
So
dotnet
has
like
a
broader
reach
than
it's
ever
had
before,
and
I
think
that's
super
awesome.
So
we've
got
like
long
serving
store.
What's
like
asp
net
mvc
we've
got
web
api.
There's
like
this
whole
alternate
universe
of
the
world
in
unity
and
game
development
that
nobody
really
talks
about
very
much.
But
it's
like
super
super
cool.
B
You
know
there's
great
work
going
on
getting.net
to
run
on
iot
devices
with
micro
framework,
the
meadow
project
we've
got
done
in
web
assembly
with
blazer
we've
got
xamarin
we've
got
maui,
we've
got
the
uni
platform,
so
we
kind
of
have
an
evolving
desktop
story
again,
but
there's
so
much
stuff
like
it's
almost
terrifying,
but
in
a
good
way
right.
These
are
really
compelling
stories,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
wild
to
realize.
That.Net
has
a
compelling
story
across
that
broad
variety
of
targets,
and
I
think
that's
really
its
strength.
B
I
literally
adore
the
fact
that
like.net
both
has
a
pest
and
obviously
has
a
future
hundreds
and
thousands
of
people
use
dotnet
enterprises
depend
on
it.
Games
depend
on
it.
It's
one
of
the
most
high
performing
runtimes
in
the
world,
like
I
kind
of
feel
like.net
has
lived
long
enough
to
become
the
villain
of
its
own
success.
You
know,
and
now
it's
in
its
christopher
nolan
directed
grim
dark
redemption
act.
B
So
I
think
it's
it's
a
really
really
exciting
time
and
I
like
the
fact
that
both.net
and
languages
on
top
of
it
are
learning
and
changing
and
evolving
to
better
suit
the
needs
of
people
doing.net
into
in
2020
and
2021,
rather
than
just
staying
where
it
was
in
the
early
2000s
like.
I
think
it's
really
actually
for
everybody
now,
if
only
we
can
make
people
realize
that
I
think
that's
awesome.
B
Again,
always
with
the
hard
questions
you
know,
I
think
we
need
to
be
really
honest,
that
microsoft
casts
a
long
shadow,
over.net
and
the
foundation.
I
think
there's
no
point
in
us,
not
understanding
that,
like
it's,
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing,
we
have
to
understand
it
and
accept
it.
So
there's
a
segment
of
the
technology
landscape.
B
That's
never
really
grown
past
the
prejudices
of
the
early
90s
and
I
think
the
foundation
is
a
key
part
of
the
journey
to
prove
that.net,
isn't
just
the
platform
holder
and
instead,
a
distinct
and
thriving
ecosystem
of
people
who
care
doing
the
work
that
they
really
care
about.
And
you
know
the
truth
is
this:
this
isn't
new
like
it
really
isn't
new
and
it
shouldn't
be
news
plenty
of
the
most
innovative
stuff.
B
So
I
kind
of
think.net
has
been
a
sound
development
choice
regardless
of
microsoft
for
almost
two
decades,
and
I
think
I
believe
that
the
foundation's
place
is
to
provide
as
much
legitimacy
to
the
wider.net
community
as
microsoft
provides
the
language
and
framework
in
the
eyes
of
enterprises
right.
So
there's
this
amazing
line
from
a
song
I
totally
adore,
which
is
just
I
have
learned
to
embrace
all
the
things.
B
I
cannot
change
and
I
think
like
on
that
theme,
we
kind
of
need
to
embrace
and
understand
that
some
people
will
be
skeptical
about.net
because
of
its
historic
custodian.
Like
that's
just
a
fact,
we
can't
change
that.
We
need
to
embrace
and
understand
that
some
people
are
going
to
put
more
confidence
in.net
for
that
exact
same
reason.
B
So
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
give
people
reason
to
believe
that
we
can
support
and
ensure
the
longevity
of
strategically
important
projects
in
in
case
of
you
know,
issues,
and
this
is
much
in
the
same
way-
that
other
comparable
foundations
and
other
ecosystems
work.
You
know
they
don't
have
to
be
the
answers
to
all
the
questions
they
just
have
to
provide
a
veneer
and
a
sense
of
safety.
B
I
think
it's
also
super
important
to
understand
that,
like
projects
do
all
the
projects
is,
is
not
the
only
way
to
inspire
more
confidence.
The
platform
like
it
truly
truly:
isn't
you
know
the
foundation
needs
to
support
education.
We
need
to
support
boot
camps,
we
need
to
support
vendors,
innovating
and
cloud
hosting.
B
B
Another
great
question,
so
I
I
guess
for
the
longest
time
the
dotnet
ecosystems,
official,
canonical
microsoft,
solutions
have
always
carried
more
weight
in
discussion,
like
especially
I
mentioned
before
in
enterprise
than
open
source
equivalents,
and
I
think
the
foundation
is
an
important
force
of
canonizing,
not
from
microsoft,
solutions
with
exactly
the
same
weight
and
importance
as
the
vendor
provided
ones.
You
know
it's
there
to
provide
legitimacy
and
confidence.
B
You
know
I
think,
right
now.
The
foundation
offers
assurance
that
canonized
projects
will
receive
funded
support
and
a
safe
strategic
bets
for
organizations,
but
I
don't
believe
that's
where
the
foundations
help
really
should
stop.
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
least
we
can
really
do
I.
I
suppose
I
feel
that
it
should
be
the
remit,
the
foundation,
to
help
projects
level
up
to
help
provide
professional
guidance
if
they
wish
for
it
to
help
grow
their
audience.
B
B
So
I
hinted
at
this
before
a
little
bit
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
in
all
of
the
rooms
where
conversations
are
happening
in
the
wider
technology
community,
so
corners
of.net
have
a
history
of
adversary,
words,
adversarial,
behavior,
we're
not
going
to
edit
that
out.
It
makes
me
human
towards
new
or
competing
frameworks,
and
I
think,
there's
a
there's,
a
pretty
toxic.
That's
a
pretty
toxic
attitude
needs
to
change
as
we
grow,
and
I
think
the
community
has
got
a
lot
better
of
understanding.
B
That.Net
does
not
have
to
be
the
only
thing
that
exists.
There
are
plenty
of
right
ways
to
do
things.
We
can
work
in
cooperation
with
other
ecosystems
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
every
other
thing
and
net
like
we
can
be
in
the
room
as
every
other
thing
as
well
and
and
we
can
make
ourselves
a
little
bit
more
approachable,
and
you
know
we
do
that
by
we
need
to.
B
We
engage
with
people
where
learning
is
happening,
and
we
don't
just
expect
them
to
come
to
us
right
like
we
shouldn't
expect
people
to
seek
out
training
in.net.
Why
would
they
we
need
to
engage
with
the
unity
community,
which
is
a
wonderful
rhyme
and
other
disparate
microcosms
of
net?
We
need
to
engage
with
all
the
known
boot
camps
to
make
sure
they
have
teaching
materials
and
people
both
both
paid
and
volunteering.
B
We
need
to
make
sure
that
people
joining
tech
understand
that.net,
really
is
an
option
for
them
and
has
has
solutions
for
their
own
problem
spaces
and
also
that
it's
pretty
cool
like
it
is
pretty
cool,
and
I
think
maybe
we
struggle
to
get
that
across
sometimes,
but
we
absolutely.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
watching
and
engaged
with
new
open
source
platforms
that
support
multiple
programming
environments
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
can
pay
people
to
share
expertise
and
convince
them.
B
B
You
don't
win
instantly,
but
I
feel
like
through
a
pattern
about
providing
materials
and
financial
support
for
teachers
and
teaching
aides
and
connecting
people
keen
to
help
in
wider
platform
adoption
of
new
tech.
We
can
pretty
much
stop.net
becoming
an
island,
that's
a
victory
of
its
own,
isolated
success.
B
I
guess
I'd
love
to
see
us
push
for
like
a
radical
pattern
of
transparency
around
initiatives,
so
I'm
talking
about
clear
statements
of
strategic
themes,
goals
and
tactics
to
help
us
move
towards
them,
like
I
feel
like
the
foundation
really
and
as
initiatives
need
to
be
run
like
any
other
business
with
like
focused
division
of
labor,
solicitation
of
help,
funding
and
action
very,
very
simple
project
management
stuff.
I
suppose,
however
much
a
dirty
word
that
that
really
is
you
know.
B
People
are
going
to
trust
the
foundation
if
they
see
the
results
of
actions
as
well
as
monitored
and
observed
metrics.
So
we
I
mean
we
treat
it
like
software,
but
also
treat
it
like
people,
but
I
guess
mostly
I
just
I
want
to
listen.
I
want
to
listen
to
the
community
and
I
want
to
hang.
I
want
to
know
what
they
think
and
what
they
want.
I
want
to
know
how
they
want
to
be
supported,
and
it's
very
much
like
when
you
read
all
these
things
about.
B
You
know
people
need
to
be
loved,
how
they
want
to
be
loved.
I
want
to
love
you
all
how
you
want
to
be
loved.
I
want
to
listen
to
open
source
authors
and
our
community
advocates
and
the
quiet
devs
and
the
juniors
and
the
grads
like
everyone
from
everywhere,
and
I
want
to
listen
and
then
work
out
how
to
engage
and
listen
to
what
they
care
about,
and
I
don't
know
I'll,
buy
everyone
a
drink.