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December 2022.

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um yeah. We don't have much on the agenda. uh One thing that uh sky and I have been chatting about um around.

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um A project called Mochi that sky has been a member of and I know uh the founder of that as well um and yeah. It's uh it's a sort of I, don't want to call it a game, but you know they're, calling it the game uh to align incentives or to create some sort of stickiness between you know, communities and Dallas uh and, like I, was thinking about this. In the context of uh how deep is that would look after restructuring and what little things we can put in place to create stickiness between down members.

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Yeah I'll link it here um and we can have Gabriel come and.

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uh He has a talk from East Denver from last year, like it's really kind of Nails. It I think, like all the different possibilities and like very basically the premise is that, um let's say the big space uh Squad is um figuring out what is, let's say, a goal uh that they want to achieve and uh we stake money.

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Essentially it's like 0.1 each um and then you have daily check-ins, which you have to report on the progress of that task and then, at the end of the eight weeks, like the more you sort of like, do the check-ins, the more of the of your tokens.

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Essentially, if you get back um yeah, it sort of creates, like the first thing it creates, is a habit of like checking in and thinking about this like on a daily basis, um and that's like the very very basic premise um and the result of that and I think maybe sky can elaborate. A little more uh is that it really creates like a sense of community, because you know people are participating. This is either like in a Discord or a slack or something I.

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Don't think they have a key based block yet, but um it's creates like a sense of community of, like you know, having a shared goal and maybe reaching it um and I think most of the tasks for um sort of uh kind of, like a more amorphic of um like maybe I, want to write every day or want to meditate every day and that's kind of like a goal that I have uh but I'm wondering if you can channel that into something that is a little bit more like sort of like corporate organization, like you know like daily scrummy things or stuff, like that, I end up been talking to Gabriel and I.

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Guess: Sky knows him as well and yeah trying to figure out. This is something we want. We'd like to try and Implement ethics now and happy to you know, have that deep space Squad um start with it, and this can all be tied to, like you know the kpis of the deep space right like we break down the KPS to like a few tasks, and then you know we figure out like what is a Daily Progress that we need. You know to get to these tasks and yeah, that's kind of like a thing so beside.

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Want to add yeah.

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Sure so, there's there's a bunch of different parts there, but in general, this tool or game is really has been being used for building like connection between people as part of a team. Everyone has their own goals there. It's not really. It hasn't been applied to like a common shared goal that, like like a kpi or something that I've seen.

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um But one thing I guess we've talked about in general at DX.

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Tau is it it could be like we don't have a lot of um things in place or time for building like human relations with each other right, we're all just very virtual and very business oriented it's a way to add um like a personal element and relationship building within squads and teams, and this can be inter squad, or this could be your own Squad, um a lot of it's based on like personal goals, so some some personal goal that you come up with, um but then you're dependent on your team.

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So it teaches interdependence which I think is really important when for for people in a especially a virtual team, to understand the interdependence of each other How, uh how certain people that do certain things wouldn't be able to succeed without people adding other skills and then vice versa.

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um I haven't seen this applied to like a developer team like a developer team can use this on top of what they're doing in their in their business and they're developing, but I haven't seen it applied to like kpis and things, so it would be an experiment or game or tool, or to uh build yeah relationships within the xtow community stronger and better, um and it's an interesting way to do it.

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I know that they want to like get Dows to use it more and more I, don't I'm having trouble imagining how you can apply it to like achieving kpis, because everyone has their own personal goals, and this is a it's a way to put stake in and uh yeah. If you, if you don't check in with your goal, that day like you get slashed, but your teammates get slashed as well, um and so, if you had some some goals, I yeah, how it ties into kpis is still an unknown.

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But that's that's my view on it.

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Yeah um I guess you can get Gabriel like I was chatting about this within about the Excel and he said like, and why not, like you know, get in.

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A conversation.

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With some of the people um and like I'm, happy to try and figure out like how to do this, because yeah I I feel like the habits, is something that maybe we're missing here and.

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This could even be.

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Like a habit of reporting right like what did you do today um like? What do you achieve? This could be the end of the day or you know the start of the next day or something um so yeah. But I would like to try and figure out like these sort of like small tools that are like.

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um Let's call it like web3 native and.

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Yeah I don't know Scott, maybe we can take it like offline.

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um Yeah anyone else has any thoughts, questions Ross. Do you want to like elaborate.

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uh Yeah I I, don't know I, don't think there's any particular difficulty like I can only do this because gov obviously, but like we've, had daily stand-ups for I guess over like a year now and I, don't think we've ever had issue with having people join them, particularly um yeah.

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Guess you guys do.

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Yeah, the scrums and the daily stand-ups that Dev teams have and then other squads, maybe have less not daily but weekly or whatever are definitely helpful and useful. That's that's a common practice across the Working World for a very long time. This. This is more like some personal or fun element on top of that, but I I, don't think it replaces um the benefits of a daily scrum or a daily stand-up in any way.

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Yeah I guess for developer teams. It's like a bit more straightforward, um yeah wondering how we can implements.

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um And yeah, like I, think the interesting thing here is that what come up is um like I call it. The there's kind of like a friction right like anyone can join geek style right, there's like a very low barrier to sort of Entry, but there's a high barrier to contribution to actually become contributor, um and so I'm wondering if there's like a way to use sort of like these Mochi cohorts to um to incentivize more people from the community to actually you know, participate uh and contribute.

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um You know in an easier way and then maybe that can sort of like shut off and become um uh what do you call it like uh their trial period, sort of uh proposal? That's one thing, and then the other thing is like I was wondering. I was just like brainstorming. How can we create I mean I talked about this a lot, but how we can we can create a like a cultural feedback um like using something like you're just using like daily habits of feedback.

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I, don't know, no idea how to activate the disorder or you know, go go about that, but yeah something I've been wondering.

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Yeah so um separately, so yeah Keenan's, not here, but um last week we were meeting and working on uh the I guess we're calling it well. Temporary name is like a Services Guild um and that can include uh DX voice, Squad DX, Biz Squad, um the goals, the the um the budgets and everything related to that uh planning to touch base today and should, according to the schedule yeah, we should have a post up in the Forum about it today um and then any feedback in and discussion.

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We can have around it um and then I yep uh I guess present. Do we present it on Wednesday, maybe um as see I, think we presented on Wednesday, um yeah and we'll fit in with operation yeah that we have the operations Guild. We have this. What we're calling services Guild?

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Maybe we can think of a better name for it um and then how these these guilds are interacting with the product guilds and so have been talking with vanky and and Ross, and teams about how these guilds are going to interact, and it's I think from Keenan's presentation. We got to see a bunch of the problems that existed um and so proposing Solutions and uh how these interactions can happen in an effective way going forward is, is quite important.

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um Yeah upper operation yeah- these are standard old names, but these are names that are clear for people I, think to understand. If we come up with like unique names,.

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It becomes less uh less hard, it becomes less easy for Outsiders to to view and see how they can become a part of these guilds, and these squats.

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With the names.

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Yeah so I don't know like that's kind of like what I have.

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Oh yeah and then on so the other yeah peace. Well, so DX ventures in general um tried to get some feedback from people that have been uh participating in DX Ventures the last year or so to gauge how people see it fitting into the future of DX style. It could continue what it's been doing. It could expand, it could decrease figure out who wants to be involved with it and what it's yeah?

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It basically needs to figure out its um path forward, given what DX Dao's enable Community freedom is, and um if, if that is expansion into more like funding and and working with more opportunities that are slightly outside of DX Dao, that could be one option.

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um The other option is to uh reduce like what DX Ventures is looking at um so yeah, if you're, if you're involved and want to be involved in DX Ventures, um maybe respond to some of those questions in the in the DX Ventures Channel, um to get a better idea of how DX Ventures would continue in the in the future path of dxdyle.

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Yeah I think, like just generally um like I, think this is the best time to find like projects to support, because there's less money being deployed and because um you know, there's a lot less noise right now. The people who remain and continue to build are the interesting people, um the people who actually make it to the bear Market um and yeah like.

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If we manage to invest or incubate um startups um that survive the spare market, then it's very likely that you know the return is going to be fairly big, um so yeah and yeah people getting into the space right now are like the ones who, like actually care about it right. It's like you, know, they're, not here, for the money they're here for the tech, I hope like most of the people here, because we're all done bad.

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um Any other thoughts.

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No I, like don't really have thoughts but I like want to think about it. I guess I.

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Guess, like just the.

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Expense, your stuff and I'm.

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Actually uh responded in that chat because I was like yeah.

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I almost like wanted to flesh out my thoughts.

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More before like committing to whatever even it was just thumbs up or whatever, um because like yeah I, might think he's just at the bear. Market, that's right and I. Think like really. What is the competitive advantage of DX Dao I. Think like two things, one we should have are I guess here to the grindstone on Dow related things or we should be like first, a lot of Dowling things, because we are a dow, that's running things, and so we should have some unique perspective there uh and I think.

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Secondly, we offer some like on-chain operational capability or like some ability to kind of uh help. People along and I think this is when you get into maybe the incubation style of more like incubating Dows um and I, think that could be interesting or products that eventually are going to do. That.

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So I think it's yeah really important.

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To Deeks Dow to have something along those lines and Deeks Ventures has taken that form in the past and I think it yeah and so I think that is for sure there and we need to have that. But what that looks like um yeah I think there needs to be some more thought to it.

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um One other topic which we touched on briefly in the swapper call earlier today is related to, and this is not something we've never talked about before, but decentralization as a service and so potentially a project that um or a yeah. Well, we have a blockchain, that's thinking about launching projects that could be in the kind of derivative space and and things and if they don't want to own that front end themselves and they actually want a decentralized ownership of a front end.

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uh How DX Dow could provide that service for some ownership, or some uh some fee to host front ends that uh that would like to be owned by decent decentralized uh collectives and that's. We we've talked part of partly about this in the past, um but we've never offered that service and and figuring out. If DX Dao wants to offer something like that uh would be an interesting path to explore.

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Yeah I think you've talked about it in terms of like figuring out a way to like help use decentralization to help launch um protocols or or code in a decentralized way which I'm not sure how that works.

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um A front end being hosted or owned by a decentralized entity is a little more clear-cut, but comes with positives and negatives. Yeah.

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Yeah I mean, like my thoughts, were around someone wants to launch a dial or wants to launch their their thing, and you know kind of like how curve a lot of people remember, but they know there's like some Anonymous user who deployed their contract and they don't know who it is not deployment is, was great, and so they decided to use it so that same thing, I think, like Dave style, could help sort of like projects to like avoid like regulatory uncertainty, and that's like a very big thing that we can offer, because we are already already decentralized and you know we have Daddy ready.

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Then you know already deploying them uh like um yeah the governance structure, and then you know, one of the things here is that you know the Exile gets a few percent of the token. The style gets some reputation, some like the voting power or reputation in their system, and you know we can like immediately help them get. You know sufficiently decentralized.

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um You think that this could be very interesting, I think yeah, probably no one's going to be launching a token in the months, but um but yeah. This is.

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Kind of an example.

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Of the your curve example of like Anonymous person launching code- though that's that's that can already happen. That's not something DX Dao can offer.

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Yeah, but you know I, don't think that trick is going to happen again because it's ridiculous. Obviously everybody knows that the current people launched it it's and yeah, and people are scared, um especially if they're you know U.S based I think specifically for your space companies. It's like very interesting what we can do, because we're actually the central.

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Yeah just like slots.

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um Now any other thoughts.

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um Yeah I guess uh that's faster strong, but yeah I agree. But the goal is for this to be sort of like uh I'm gonna say like trustless, and you know they can come and they can come to the dial and say Hey. You know help us launch our Dao. These are the parameters. These are things and you know we can help you, um but you know this has to come with. Like some visitive work right, you know we have to scout who these are?

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We have to figure out how to work with them and yeah um this for the first few later on. It might be easier to do this, like sort of self-serve.

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Yeah or to Ross's Point um enabling empowering communities to do this um is a very nice thing. You know communities can already do this like there are tools out there right there's what DXL currently does there's what other Downs do? You can already do that um Davi I guess has a plan to make it easier, um which is why self you know this. The self-launching part of of Davi, which is being worked on, is, is also important.

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um Communities want to be able to, you, know, launch their own, um but showing yeah, showing examples of how it's being done so swapper would be a good example. Swapper, eventually kind of moving to its own governance at some point would show how a project spins off and becomes its own uh yeah has its own governance, and other people can see that and and replicate or adjust based on what their preferences are. Other communities.

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I don't know if anyone else has any thoughts about these things.

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Thank you, I, don't know anyone else.

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Wants to say something.

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Or we could end it early.