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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
monday
may
31st
2021,
dx
style
business
call
on
the
agenda.
Today
we
have
we're
going
to
start
with
some
new
dig
style.
Member
introductions-
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any,
but
there
might
be
a
few.
I
think
sky
will
take
us
through
basically
a
few
dx
biz
squad
opportunities.
B
We
will
have
discussion
and
input
basically
feedback
on.
You
know
some
of
these
opportunities.
B
We'll
then
have,
I
think
either
shy
or
orient
from
hats
are
in
the
call,
and
they
will
do
a
quick
presentation
and
demo
of
of
the
hats
security
mechanism,
we're
going
to
talk
about
ecc,
the
event
itself
and
kind
of
like
gathering
applications
for
the
presentations
and
workshops
and
if
there
are
any
like
product,
specific
ideas
for
omen
and
swapper
growth,
which
you
will
which
we
will
discuss,
and
all
of
this
is
in
the
agenda
that
I
placed
in
the
chat
and
I'll
paste
it
here
again.
C
B
All
right
so
yeah,
I
guess
we
can
get
started
with
the
experience
opportunities
and
the
first
item
is
like
the
process
for
people
in
projects
to
bring
in
new
ideas.
D
Sure
yeah,
so
I
think
maybe
nathan
might
have
something
to
say
on
it,
but
we're
just
like
better,
defining
and
communicating
a
process,
and
eventually
I
think
it
will
be
in
maybe
a
dx
biz
docs
area
of
of
our
docs
page,
but
just
like
a
more
clear
process
for
not
necessarily
someone
like
joining
and
starting
contributing
to
dx
style
but
like
where
to
bring
new
ideas
and
how
to
like
introdu,
introduce
those
ideas
to
like
a
global,
decentralized
collective,
because
in
general,
most
people
would
probably
not
really
have
a
good
idea
of
how
to
introduce
something
like
that.
D
D
We
next,
we
yeah
so
as
parting
as
part
of
the
farming
campaign.
Obviously
we
are
thinking
about
including
work
token,
as
incentivized
pool,
which
is
a
will,
be
a
unique
kind
of
showcase
experiment
for
a
new
token
dx
dao
related
to
that
you
know,
did
an
investment
grant
in
opolis
and
is
due
to
receive
some
work
tokens
immediately
and
then
like
in
in
the
future
as
well.
D
And
things
like
that-
and
that's
like
that
is
a
you
know-
to
get
into
the
technical
technicalities.
D
Most
of
those
wallets
are
being
like
are
created
as
like
magic
wallets,
which
is
what
fortmatic
is
now
called
right
so
like
when
you
create
your
account,
you
get
a
you,
get
a
blockchain
wallet
and
you
have
the
ability
to
like
turn
over
the
control
of
of
those
tokens
to
a
self-hosted
address
or
a
self
hosted
wallet
which
is
like
someone's
meta
mask,
and
then
you
can
interact
with
the
governance
system
using
your
own
wallet
instead
of
like
the
account
created
wallet
and
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
like
a
technical
question
on
can
can
dx
dow
so
in
in
our
case
x,
dx
dow
on
x
diabase,
I
guess
using
the
multi
call,
could
could
that
be
the
wallet
that
holds
the
actual
work
tokens
and
still
interact
with
the
staking
contracts
and
things
on
on
their
governance
platform,
and
I
I
think,
because
we
have
the
multi
call
like
it
should
be.
D
It
should
be
like
the
path
forward.
I
believe
their
their
their
devs
are
looking
into
a
little
bit.
I
I
initially
there's
a
there's
a
we
there's
already
been
a
scenario
where,
like
a
multi-chain,
world
has
caused
some
problems,
so
there's
a
number
of
people
that
did
do
investment
into
opolis
and
receive
their
work.
Tokens
which
are
x,
die,
work
tokens
and
they
actually
withdrew
them
to
multi-sigs
and
they
withdrew
them
to
multi-sigs
on
mainnet
and
that
doesn't
work,
and
so
it's
really
good.
D
That
dx
has
an
ex-die
dao,
but
people
have
already
lost
their
tokens
by
by
sending
them
to
mainnet
multi-cigs,
and
when
I
explained
that,
like
we
don't
use
multi-sticks,
we
we
are
a
tao.
It's
it's
this
whole
like
understanding
that
people
have
to
get
used
to
is
like
in
certain
cases,
dao
wants.
The
taos
want
to
do
things
as
daos
and
not
as
multi-cigs
and
not
as
individual
wallets.
D
So
there's
this
like
weird
thing:
that's
everyone's
trying
to
figure
out
right
now
how
how
daoz
and
multi-cigs
can
can
do
governance
in
a
multi-chain
world.
So
it's
like
an
interesting
topic,
but
we'll
keep
people
updated
on
how
that
goes,
and
that
would
potentially
be
like
a
way
to
like.
If,
once
we
get
work
token,
we
could,
if
we
decided
to
use
some
of
the
work
tokens
in
you
know,
put
it
as
capital
into
a
swapper
pool.
B
D
Yeah
it's
so
there
are
set
the
same
addresses
on
multi-cigs
on
different
wallets,
but
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
to
force
that,
and
so
this
is
actually
important.
So
you
know
how,
like
gnosis
announced
that
they're
to
go
like
multi-sigs
on
all
chains
like
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-chain
nose.
This
is
safe
world,
where
even
polygon
and
and
solana,
and
like
eventually
they're,
going
to
support
lots
of
different
chains,
because
it's
a
proven,
useful
tool.
D
If,
if
they're,
all
different
addresses
like
if
you
create
all
different
safes
on
all
different
chains
and
they're,
all
different
addresses
that,
like
not
only
is
bad,
it's
gonna
lead
to
lots
of
lost
money.
I
think-
and
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
force
the
same
wallet
address
on
multiple
chains
all
at
once.
D
Well
with
the
answer
would
be,
I
did
I
deploy,
my
nose
is
safe
and
it
gives
me
the
same
wallet
address
on
all
10
chains
that
no
sustain
supports,
but
that
doesn't
exist
today
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
possible
so
anyway,
jumping
to
the
next
topic,
there's
so
federico
and
a
small
team.
D
Are
you
know,
thinking
a
lot
about
and
working
on,
what
we're
calling
a
conditional,
kpi
token
platform
right
now
and
that's
like
a
simpler
version
of
of
a
way
to
create
erc20
conditional
tokens,
which
could
be
then
used
in
conditional
farming,
which
is
a
really
cool
idea
that
that
dx
is
excited
about
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
opportunities
we're
looking
at
is
in
discussions
with
chain
link
is
for
chain
link
to
be
the
oracle
on
those
conditions
of
those
conditional
tokens
that
are
created.
D
And
you
know
we
could
just
have
dx
dao
as
like
an
oracle.
But
you
know
having
parties
like
chain
link
feed
in
data
as
a
third
party
as
a
decentralized
third
party
is
a
is
a
pretty
interesting
way
to
to
settle
those
conditional
tokens
and
would
be
a
great
partnership.
D
So
we
have
like
outlined
some
of
like
the
potential
needs
and
like
parameters
of
what
types
of
conditions
would
need
to
be
solved
in
order
to
like
achieve
some
of
the
the
cases
that
we've
thought
about,
and
we
will
be
discussing
those
with
chain
link
to
see
if
they
can,
if
they
have
the
ability
to
to
feed
those
specific
types
of
information
into
this
platform.
D
And
so
that
could
be
a
good
spark
like
that.
Could
spark
a
bigger,
closer
relationship
with
chain
link
and
chain
link
does
support
multiple
chains,
so
they're,
obviously
on
main
net,
but
they
also
do
stuff
on
xdi
and
and
and
have
a
big
plan
to
to
to
work
with
and
be
deployed
on,
arbitrary
as
well,
so
that
we're
also
thinking
about
like
future
connections
like
integrations
with
them
like
eventually
when
arbitrage
is
live.
So
it
would
be
cool
to
have.
D
Obviously,
the
the
two
communities
have
a
closer
relationship
which
would
lead
to,
like
you
know,
good,
probably
bigger
awareness
and
things.
E
Yeah,
so
we
have
a
call
with
there
was
already
a
call
with
some
of
their
like
is
dev,
accounts
team
right
and
they
are,
of
course,
they're
open
to
like
working
together
on
different
things,
but
there's
a
question
of
yeah
like
the
type
of
data,
and
so
I
just
provided
a
link
to
their
nodes.
I
think
most.
E
Now
is,
is
like
price
related
or,
like
you
know,
sports
outcomes
or
whatever,
but
if
we're
talking
about
incentivizing
things
encrypted
total
value,
locks
or
value
locks
is
something
that's
interesting.
So
that's,
I
think
the
main
thing
we're
going
to
be
asking
them
about
when
we
meet
with
their
integrations
team
in
about
a
week.
D
Yeah,
like
a
couple,
we
we're
actually
exploring
a
couple
different
use
cases.
One
would
be
like
related
to
total
value
locked
in
swapper
pulls
you
know,
depending
on
the
chain,
which
would
be
a
key
statistic
for
like
relevant
to
dx
dow,
but
then
also
there's
other
parties,
we're
working
with
like
say,
a
lending
platform
that
wants
to
grow
their
total
value
locked,
and
so
you
know
being
able
to
provide,
like
a
conditional,
kpi
token
ability,
through
our
creation
for
other
projects,
to
use
that
use
that
conditional
token.
D
F
Yeah,
so
in
that
scenario
like
for
conditional
tokens,
is
this
all
happening
like
within
swapper
or
like?
How
do
we
think
about
like
getting
people
to
use
conditional
tokens?
Is
that,
like
a
new,
you
know
interface,
new
brand
or
anything?
I
think
this
is
like
a
really
potentially
good
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
different
projects.
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
where
we're
seeing
like
the
biz
dev
efforts
and
how
they're
like
associated
with
swapper
versus
something
kind
of
outside
of
swapper.
D
Yeah,
so
federico
is
not
here
right
now
he's
the
one,
obviously
mainly
looking
into
like
the
building
of
it,
but
at
this
point
it
does
seem.
It
really
does
seem
like
it's
its
own,
simple
product.
Now,
where
you,
where
you
place
that,
like
you,
could
theoretically
place
it
into
omen
somewhere
or
place
it
into
swab
or
somewhere,
but
it
really
is
its
own.
It's
leveraging,
like
things
related
to
like
obviously
omen
and
conditional
tokens,
but
it's
not
like
it's
not.
D
The
idea
is
not
to
have
it
like
embedded
in,
like
you
can
go,
find
your
own
market
about
that
conditional
token.
So
it
it's
plan
at
this
point
plans
to
be
its
own
platform
and
it
could
be,
it
could
have
its
own
brand,
like
you
said
chris,
but
we
would
use
it
and,
like
so
there's
these.
So
it's
the
creation
of
conditional
tokens,
but
then
what
the
really
interesting
like
conditional
tokens
already
exist
and
farming
already
exists,
but
would
be,
if
that
dxdow
doing
conditional
token
farming,
basically
combining
two
things
that
I
don't.
D
I'm
not
aware
of
anyone
else.
That
has
done
this,
where
you
are
actually
giving
out
these
conditional
tokens
through
the
new
farming
mechanism
on
swapper
in
order
to
see
the
pools
of
swapper
that
that
combination
is
actually
the
really
interesting
idea
in
my
in
my
mind,
and
so
that,
like
is
obviously
highly
related
to
swapper.
But
we
as
a
project
would
create
those
tokens
in
a
separate
place
and
then
use
those
tokens
how
we
see
fit
and
that's
what
other
projects
I
believe
would
be
able
to
do
as
well.
D
They
would
come
to
this
platform
and
that's
where
they
can
simply
create
the
condition,
get
the
erc20
token
and
then
either
give
them
out
through
farming
or
give
them
out
through
airdrops,
which
is
what
some
projects
want
to
do.
They
just
want
to
airdrop
and
that's
kind
of
what
uma
did
with
kpi
tokens,
just
like
airdrop
them
to
like
relevant
wallets
that
are
connected
to
their
community,
and
then
ins
like
give
that
incentive
to
that
community.
So
lots
of
flexibility.
F
F
Airdrops
were
all
the
rage
because
everyone
thought
this
was
cool,
but
really
it
was
farming
that
really
made
that
something
because
your
pit,
your
the
distribution
element
of
farming,
is
like
matching
up
who
you're
trying
to
get
your
token,
whether
it's
an
actual
token
or
a
kpi
token,
in
the
hands
of
someone,
whereas
for
umo
they're,
just
doing
like
a
list
of
addresses,
but
having
like
an
active
platform
where
you
could
like
reward.
F
People
with
conditional
tokens
for
providing
liquidity,
I
think
is,
is
is
a
big
advance
in
terms
of
like
trying
to
address
the
distribution
problem
of
these
conditional
tokens
which,
like
I
think,
is
in
the
end,
like
the
big
problem
that
all
of
the
you
know,
bootstrapping
any
network
is,
is
how
can
you
distribute
to
the
right
addresses.
E
E
I
think
one
thing
worth
noting
is
the
swapper
farming,
which
is
you
know
about
to
go
live
like
we
think
of
it
as
using
your
lp
tokens
from
swapper,
that's
the
main
use
case,
but
there's
actually
like
no
limit
to
like
what
token
is
being
used
as
the
staking
token.
E
So
so,
if
you
think
about
incentivizing
the
tvl,
it
might
be
in
texas,
like
swapper,
or
it
could
be
in
other
types
of
platforms
like
blending
platforms,
etc.
Right,
and
so
I
mean
I
in
theory
like
the
swapper
farming
system
could
be
used
to
actually
like
farm
other
things.
Besides,
science
from
key
customs.
G
Similar
product
is
gxsail
that
has
launched
recently
and
they
have
a
contract
for
minting
new
tokens,
and
then
they
have
a
separate
contract
allowing
people
to
stake
it.
So
we
could
have
this
across
our
products
and
the
initial
point
could
either
be
a
feature
within
all
the
products
or
it
could
be
initiated
in
in
one
of
them
and
then
incorporate
it
in
the
others
separately.
But
maybe
a
good
starting
point
could
also
be
considered
mesa,
although
the
current
state
of
things
kind
of
like
makes
it
impossible,
but
maybe
for
the
future.
H
Yeah
to
chris
questions
question
I
I
think
it
will
start
as
an
infrastructure
module
like
a
new
building
block
on
top
of
defy,
but
once
we
actually
see
people
using
it
on
swapper
or
like
potentially
omen
and
mesa.
H
This
should
be
branched
out
into
like
a
into
a
new
brand,
because
we
actually
should
capture
the
innovation.
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
this
this
could
also
be
used
for
like
we
should
first
start
this
with
like
the
style
products
but
later
on,
we,
this
could
be
a
product
of
its
own
of,
like
you
know,
targeted
air
drops
or
like
kpi
options
have
been
talked
about
as
well
for
projects
who
want
yeah
sort
of
like
a
or
chip
drops.
Oh
that's,
actually
good,
so
yeah.
D
Yeah
so
so
the
goal
is
to
the
immediate
goal
is
to
federico's
working
on
the
platform.
Get
the
platform
live
figure
out,
the
the
who
will
be
the
oracle
if
it
will
be
dx,
dow,
initially
or
it
could
potentially
be
chain
link
or
another
party,
settle
the
condition
and
then
and
then
actually
launch
and
do
a
you
do
a
do.
A
live
use
case,
probably
for
our
own
one
of
our
own
products
like
swapper
and
and
learn
from
that
and
test
it
out
and
then
like
expand
from
there.
D
Cool,
so
next,
a
few
more
topics,
next
topic
that
we
talked
about
on
the
huddle
was
we
are
like
okay,
so
we're
revisiting
as
part
of
omen,
like
omen's
gonna
launch,
with
a
with
a
rewards
program
and
omen
guild
and
omen
token.
But
in
tandem
with
that,
there
were
like
already
proposals
and
discussions
into
the
the
gnosis
tao
world
from
claros
and
other
parties
about
like
gno
holders
or
gnosis.
Giving
g
o
rewards
to
support
conditional
token
framework.
D
The
proposal
that
was
proposed
didn't
pass,
but
we
are
revisiting
that
idea
with
with
like
to
tie
up
to
tie
in
with
like
the
launch
of
of
omen
and
guild
and
its
rewards
programs
ability,
and
so
there's
a
few
different
like
there's
a
bunch
of
different
stakeholders
from
claros
to
gnosis
team,
to
gnosis,
dow
to
g
o
holders
to
dx
dao.
D
So
we're
trying
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
something
could
be
put
on
the
table
that,
like
part,
most
parties,
agree
with
there's
lots
of
different
opinions
and
things,
but
like
there
are
some
drafts
shared
around
with
different
different
parties
involved,
and
I
think
one
like
you
know,
to
get
feedback
and
improvements.
D
But
you
know
as
there's
other
prediction:
market
platforms
out
there
that
are,
you
know
doing
their
own
thing.
It
makes
instead
of
like
shying
away
from
trying
to
expand
the
usage
of
conditional
token
framework.
The
ask
is,
would
be
more
for,
like
leaning
into
it
and
seeing
if,
if
these
prediction
markets
can
really
work
in
in
our
space
and
then
expand
to
other
spaces
outside
of
the
crypto
space.
D
So
I
don't
know
if
anyone
had
any
thoughts
about
like
the
the
proposal
that
had
happened
was
you
could
see
the
discussion
on
on
the
gnosis
dial
forum.
B
Yeah,
I
guess
I
guess
you
can
add
the
new
version
to
the
meet
to
like
the
the
call
notes
section
as
well.
D
Next
is
so
dx
ventures
which
launched
the
idea
a
while
ago.
Finally
did
its
first
grant
investment
into
opolis.
D
There's
been
some
side
discussions
on
like
what
how
dx,
dow
in
general
could
could
better
absorb,
bring
in
support,
help
help
evolve
like
different
projects
in
the
space
that
that
are
like
could
benefit
from
being
part
of
a
bigger
community
in
the
infrastructure,
in
the
governance
and
things
that
dx
dow
has,
and
so
there's
discussion
on,
like
could
dx
ventures
become
more
than
just
like
this
investment
arm?
D
That's
just
investing
in
like
specific,
one-off
projects
that
are
helping
build
things
that
dx
style
needs,
but
could
it
become
more
of
a
of
a
like
an
umbrella,
an
umbrella
of
dx
dao
that
welcomes
in
new
projects
to
like
build
out
those
projects
under
that
umbrella,
so
almost
like
an
incubator
and
then
and
then
like
give
them
seed
funding
and
then
also
give
them
investment
like
as
a
next
stage,
and
so
it's
kind
of
look
like
the
idea
is
like
more
of
an
expansion
of
dx
ventures,
and
maybe
the
expenses
would
be
good
if
we
had
a
few
more
projects
that
we,
like.
D
It's
only
going
to
get
bigger
and
bigger
is
like
dows
in
the
space
using
their
treasuries
to
to
build
and
and
support
projects
that
are
highly
relevant
to
those
dows,
and
so
I
think
a
lot
of
dao's
are
trying
to
figure
this
out
and
how
to
douse
in
the
in
the
and
the
pools
of
funds
that
gaos
have
fit
in
with
what
traditional,
vcs
and
other
investment
companies
do.
And
so
it's
a
pretty
open
question.
D
And
you
know
you,
you
could
see
a
a
project
that
you
know
capitals
easy
these
days,
but
a
project
that
that's
building
something
interesting
if
they
can
join
and
get
funding
from
a
dow
and
they
get
they
get
with
that,
like
the
entire
community
of
that
dao,
they
get
every
one,
that's
holding
the
token
or
a
stakeholder
in
that
ecosystem.
Supporting
that
new
project.
Talking
about
that
new
project
spreading
the
new
project
using
it,
you
could
see
that
eventually
being
way
more
powerful
than
just
like
some
corporate
vc
backing
you.
F
Yeah
I
mean
it
is
like
such
a
big
topic
and
I
think
we
got
to
kind
of
think
in
the
long
term
of
like
where
what
is
the
you
know.
What's
the
positioning
there,
and
I
think
we
want
to
have
like
two
thoughts
here,
one,
how
can
dxdow
be
a
great
place
for
entrepreneurs
to
grow
and
build
their
business
right,
I
mean
you're
talking
about
this
is
what
vc's
kind
of
kind
of
approach.
Now
it's
not
just.
What
can
I
give
in
capital,
but
like?
F
What
can
I
do
to
make
it
easier
in
terms
of
audits
in
terms
of
marketing,
in
terms
of
all
the
other
things
like?
How
can
we
enable
entrepreneurs
and
make
it
an
attractive
place
to
want
to
come,
and
I
think
too
is
how
do
we
give
projects,
stakeholders
or
expand
the
stakeholders
that
are
interested
in
their
project
and
obviously
deke
style
would
be
one
of
those
stakeholders
ourselves
but
like?
F
How
can
we
encourage,
like
other
stakeholders
within
the
ecosystem
or
like
give
those
projects
access
to
them,
but
yeah,
I
think
long
term,
like
we
really
should
be.
You
know
shifting
from
the
the
pure
model
of
like
okay,
well
deep
style,
contributor.
Full-Time
contributors
are
going
to
like
have
product
ideas
and
then
we're
going
to
build
them
out
from
there
versus
like
attracting,
really
cool
ideas
and
then
bringing
them
into
our
orbit.
But
we
need
to
make
it
an
attractive
orbit
for
them
to
come
into.
D
Totally,
and
so
with
that,
it's
like
it
seems
it's
apparent
that
as
dx
ventures
operates
currently
and
even
and
then
with
this
expansion,
it
probably
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
you
know,
find
a
person
or
even
a
couple,
people
that
would
could
like
define
and
develop
and
ex
and
and
lead
this
expansion
of
dx
ventures
and-
and
so
that's
one
of
the
positions
that
we
are
recruiting
for.
I
think
and
there's
a
there's,
a
draft
of
a
write-up
for
that
opportunity
and
hopefully,
over
the
next.
B
What
about
like,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
is
is
sort
of
the
style
investing
in
products
that
we
need
right.
So
like
what
about
having
a
board
of
all
the
things,
I
think
I
think
we've
talked
about
many
things
about.
B
I
don't
know:
treasury
management,
decentralized,
treasury
management,
decentralized,
notion,
decentralized,
all
these
things,
and
we
could
probably
like
bounty
these
up
and
say
you
know
we
will
give
you
know,
even
if
it's
like
510k
to
someone
who
gives
us
a
prototype
for
this-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
it
could
be
like
a
bounty
board,
for
you
know
things
that
dick
style
wants
to
invest
in
it's
the
tools
that
will
help
us
succeed.
D
Yeah,
let's
we
can
start
making
that
list
yeah
where
this
style's,
not
very
it
hasn't
been
very
good
at
bounties.
But
I
think
in
this
world,
like
I
think,
bounties
and
obviously
you
can
see
with
what
get
coins
doing.
But
I
think
bounties
are
a
great
way
to
pull
people
in
and
and
make
it
very
clear
what
what?
What
are
the
needs
of
a
certain
project
and
so
yeah
more
boundaries.
B
I
Well,
we
can
also
treat
it.
We
can
treat
it
like
a
grant
and
then
the
other
cool
thing
as
chris,
as
was
kind
of
touching
on,
I
think
it's
cool
to
it.
There's
we
have
a
unique
positioning
with
our
governance
and
kind
of
providing
some
decentralized
protocols.
That
could
be
really
helpful
for
like
a
new
product
that
fits
our
kind
of
universe
of
needs,
so
it
could
be.
You
know,
kind
of
like
a
staged
relationship
where
it's
a
good
idea.
We
give
an
initial
grant.
I
D
F
D
Keep
an
eye
out
for
people
that
would
be
really
good
at
at
leading
that
type
of
initiative
in
general
yeah.
It's
pretty
free
and
open.
So.
I
I
Has
like
a
good,
you
know
some
sort
of
economics
vc
background,
but
of
course
like
looking
to
do
something
more
innovative
and
not
just
fit
the
typical
structures
and
confines
of
the
vc.
I
think
that's
very
attractive
for
like
d5
enthusiasts
and
like
technologists.
So
if
we
can
find
someone
who
has
some
of
that
institutional
experience,
but
like
is
excited
about
kind
of
creating
their
own
version
of
that
in
our
our
community,
that
would
be
really
exciting.
So
some
experience,
but
not
necessarily
like
no
one's
gonna,
have
the
perfect
experience
to
fit
our
needs.
D
J
B
Yeah
sure,
like
I,
I
think,
treat
it
as
if
no
one
knows,
I
think
there
was
an
initial
proposal
on
the
forums
that
were
faced
here,
but
I
guess
not
sure
if
everyone
read
it.
J
Yeah,
so
I
will
just
do
it
quick.
So
in
one
sentence,
can
you
see
my
skin.
D
J
Yeah,
so
hat
is
a
decentralized
incentive
incentive
program
for
white
attackers
and
me
and
oren
were
veteran
in
the
in
the
ecosystem
in
ethereum
ecosystem.
My
latest
thing
was,
I
was
part
of
the
prismatic
labs
team.
J
So
we
started
working
on
hats.
The
back
boundaries
are
small
and
not
very
attractive.
Usually-
and
I'm
going
fast
through
this-
because
some,
I
think
just
numbers
a
little
bit.
So
I'm
not
counting
the
bsc
x
recently,
but
these
are
the
numbers
of
how
many
dollars
went
lost
by
exploits
and
hacks,
but
the
damage
is
much
greater.
Yeah
400
million
got
extracted,
but
sometimes
it's
the
example
in
cover
protocol.
J
J
After
a
hack,
the
token
value
goes
down
yeah.
Currently,
the
incentive
of
a
white
attacker
is
his
social
incentive
and
we
want
to
take
it
serious.
Although
we
are
developing
a
financial
incentive
and
we
want
to
enhance
the
social
incentive
and
we
are
doing
it
by
using
nft
art
pieces,
it
will
be
like
badges
of
honor,
so
you
can
stay
anonymous
and
have
those
and
get
financial
reward
and
also
get
nft
art
piece
that
is
specified
for
the
certain
hack
you
helped
solve.
J
So
you
can
stay
anonymous
and
still
be
able
to
show
your
experience
and
your
expertise
as
as
exploit
finder
or
helper,
and
our
long-term
mission
is
to
turn
black
attackers
into
white
attackers.
J
J
There
are
many
parties
that
can
can
enjoy
the
system.
I
will
mention
a
few.
The
projects
have
incentives
to
put
part
of
the
treasury
in
our
vaults.
This
is
mainly
to
save
the
reputation
of
the
project.
Being
hacked
is
not
something
good
for
the
reputation
about
the
hackers.
It's
much
easier
to
find
an
exploit
or
issue
in
solidity
code,
then,
to
really
use
the
exploit
and
extract
the
fans
and
run
away
with
it
without
leaving
tracks.
J
So
it
makes
it
easier
for
people
to
help
preserve
issues
then
really
hack
them
and
exploit
them
and
for
token
orders.
J
So
insurers
have
great
incentive
to
to
help
people
who
disclose
vulnerabilities,
because
it's
much
easier
to
pay
them
than
to
pay
the
coverage
a
bit
about
how
it
works.
So
mostly,
it's
like
a
regular
yield
farming
farm,
but
with
one-sided
token,
so
you
can
deposit
the
ex-dollar
token
and
you
get
the
reward
heads
tokens
at
the
emission
rate.
That
is
being
said.
J
J
Encrypt
the
message,
the
description
and
hash
it
and
send
the
ash
on
chain
to
have
like
timestamp
on
when
he
for
later.
If
there
is
a
dispute
so
to
do
a
dispute
resolution,
and
so
he
then
communicate
with
the
committee,
every
pool
have
its
own
committee.
So,
for
example,
dxda
will
have
its
own
committee
that
will
handle
the
disclosures
and
then
you
have
encrypted
communication
with
the
committee.
J
J
Part
of
the
funds
go
to
the
hacker
or
the
auditor
part
of
the
funds
is
being
exchanged
to
heads
and
rewarded
to
the
active
investing
contract.
So
he
become
invested
in
heads
as
well.
Part
of
the
tokens
is,
is
being
swapped
to
heads
and
sent
to
the
governance,
and-
and
there
is
a
split
there
like
there
is
also
like
part
of
it.
That
goes
to
the
committee
for
looking
through
the
reports.
J
This
is,
there
is
a
governance,
so
all
the
this
settings
of
how
many
percentage,
all
the
the
split
function
and
and
those
things
are
being
said
by
the
governance,
the
governance
also
after
the
committee
approved,
so
the
governance
have
to
reapprove
in
order
for
the
funds
to
go
through
the
split
this
is
to
put
like
stops
in
case
of
a
committee
that
want
to
do
a
rag
pool
for
the
pull
token.
J
So
there
are
two
levels:
one
is
like
the
project
committee
and
there
is
another
governance
vote
to
approve
the
approval
yeah.
This
is
about
it,
maybe
our
state
right
now
we
are
in
audit,
like
our
first
audit
report,
just
came
through
no
major
issues
and
everything
was
fixed
already.
We
have
two
additional
audits
that
are
going
to
to
get
out
we're
just.
J
Finishing
finalizing
a
funding
ground
and
doing
a
soft
launch
with
few
projects
and
exam
will
be
one
of
them
and
we
hope
also
digs
down
and
yeah.
We
have
certain
more
a
few
more
things
on
our
strategy.
J
This
is
an
example
of
the
split
function,
so
the
hacker
can
get
up
to
85
percent
of
default
value
in
the
original
token
and
exchange
two
ads.
I
I
mentioned
all
these
and
the
the
hacker
can
also
get
exposure
through
a
leaderboard,
so
you
can
stand
anonymous
or
have
like
a
twitter
account
and
still
have
reputation
on
the
exploit
cl
he
helped
fix
and
can
be
communicated
through
the
communication
channel.
He
defines
in
this
leaderboard.
J
J
D
Questions
yeah,
okay,
thanks
for
that,
the
I
just
one
question,
so
the
committee
like
dx
dow,
would
create
its
own
committee,
who
then
decides
which
contracts
and
which
products
and
contracts
like
want
are,
are
in
the
pool
of
of
possible
possible
contracts
that
you
know
could
be
looked
at
right
and
then,
if
there's
a
vulnerability
or
something,
it's
also.
The
committee
that,
like
then
decides
that
it's
like
it's
a
it's
actually
like
important
or
like
it's
legit,
basically
and
then,
and
then
they
can
once
the
committee
says.
Oh
thanks.
D
That
was
a
vulnerability
like
so
it
seems
like
in
general,
every
project
is
going
to
have
this
committee.
That's
a
centralized
group
of
smaller
people.
How
do
you
prevent
that
committee
from
not
you
know
doing
what
insurance
companies
do
like
once
you
once
the
claim
goes
in
then
they
try
everything
possible
to
not
pay
out.
Basically,.
J
Yeah,
so
I
think
our
space
is
a
little
bit
different
like
because
the
incentive
is
to
like,
as
I
see
it
like,
is
to
be
generous
and
give
out
big
rewards,
because,
anyway,
the
tokens
that
are
locked
in
the
contact
are
the
default
reward
yeah
like
if
there
is
a
hack
or
an
exploit
in
your
project.
It's
better
that
you
will
have
good
reputation
for
giving
big
rewards.
J
That's
like
the
threat
that
every
project
in
our
space
have
by
default,
yeah
so
be
being
generous
in
our
line
of
work
is
first
of
all,
it's
a
it's
a
thing
and
second,
we
are
collaborating
with
cleros
to
create
a
dispute
resolution
mechanism
and
in
v2
it
will
also
be
part
of
the
of
the
mechanism
itself.
J
So
at
the
beginning
there
will
be
like
a
certain
number
of
tokens
that
will
be
locked
for
the
dispute
resolution,
but
at
v2,
like
cleros,
can
have
like
the
possibility
to
walk
to
influence
the
pull
the
pull
tokens
so
judging
mechanism.
J
So
this
is
like
a
longer
term
and
it
will
have
to
be
tested
and
things
like
this,
but
I
think
that
the
incentives
are
aligned
already
and
not
like
an
insurance
company,
because
our
threat
is
real,
like
being
having
a
smart
contract
on
chain.
It's
better
that
everybody
will
know
that
you
give
big
rewards
for
exposing
vulnerabilities
and
to
know
that
you
are
cheap
and
you
don't
give
a
reward.
So
it's
different
kinda.
J
We
are
going
to
have
expert
committee
as
well,
and
this
is
like
there
are
things
that
we
keep
for
the
launch
itself,
but
for
the
project
themselves,
yeah,
they
they
will
have
to
have
the
reputation
and
I
think
it's
aligned.
B
Yeah,
so
this
is
essentially
like,
I
want
to
say,
like
a
supercharged
bounty,
it's
kind
of
like
the
goal
is
to
create
bounties
on
your
contracts
and
instead
of
someone,
hacking
your
contract
and
getting
a
certain
amount
of
funds,
they
will.
They
will
choose
to
get
less
funds,
but
you
know:
do
it
respond
like
it
in
responsible
way
and
disclose
it
and
then,
with
like
additional
incentives
of
reputation,
nft
and,
let's
say
compared
to
like
regular
bounties
like
today,
you
could
probably
get
like
100k.
D
But
it
is
like
it's.
The
whole
point
is
like
decentralize,
this
entire,
like
framework
right,
because
projects
could
just
have
really
big
bug.
Bounties
like
and
publish
those
themselves,
but
like
the
benefit
of
having
this
in
this
like
ecosystem
and
and
is,
is
not
necessarily
the
decentralization,
but
it's
like
so
it's
easier
for
people
to
be
aware
of
what
the
opportunities
are
and
things.
J
Yeah,
it's
also
easier
to
be
aware
of,
and
also
like.
We
can
attract
more
people
to
deposit
to
be
part
of
the
bounty.
It's
not
only
the
project
themselves.
It
can
be
like
through
certain
incentives
like
we
are
going
to.
We
are
collaborating
with
the
out
famous
artist
in
the
nft
all
to
give
bounties
for
small
token
holders
that
locks
their
tokens
in
the
world.
J
So
if
you
like
digs
down-
and
you
want
to
be
part
of
the
guardians
of
the
exile,
so
you
can
deposit
some
tokens
that
you
have
and
get
rewards
in
the
form
of
heads
token,
and
also
like
have
like
a
like
recognition
of
you
being
part
of
the
people
who
defend
dicks
down.
J
Yeah
so,
first
of
all
like
this
is
like
the
commun,
the
committee
setup.
So
every
committee
sets
the
twitter
accounts
of
the
members
of
the
multisig
and
it
like
choose
the
the
contract
that
covered
by
any
civility.
It
chooses
like
the
severities
how
how
much
percent
of
each
vote
will
be
sent
and
in
the
interface
itself.
J
So
in
this
example
digs
dow
it's
in
wrinkle
b
right
now,
so
you
can
open
it.
You
can
see
like
they
are
like
critical
and
medium
vulnerabilities,
the
size
of
the
reward
from
the
pool
the
size
of
the
pool
and
the
nft
that
will
be
rewarded
for.
J
J
So
this
is
deposit
and
claim,
like
I
had
already
like
tokens,
so
I
can
deposit
and
also
like
claimed
a
part
of
the.
So
this
is
like
a
regular
flow
on
a
d5
here,
the
submit
vulnerability,
so
I
can
choose
dx
dow.
I
write
my
telegram
handle.
J
And
I
download
the
the
the
the
document
to
my
local
storage.
This
is
like
I
can
encrypt
it
and
hash
it
and
have
a
proof
that
this
is
what
I
have
submitted
later
for
the
for
the
dispute.
J
So
I
have
it
like
when
I
do
the
submit,
I
send
the
hash
of
this
file
on
chain
to
have
a
future
claim
that
I
have
submitted
it.
So
if
dxdow
resolve
the
issue
and
don't
give
me
price,
so
I
can
show
it
to
everyone
that
digs
dow
didn't
pay
and
yeah,
and
then
it
takes
some
time
to
send
because
it
takes
some
time
for
it
to
get
on
the.
J
B
B
Yeah
so
I've
been
kind
of
involved
in
the
project,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
interesting
things
here
like
one
is
that
it's
sort
of
like
one-sided
liquidity
farming,
so
there's
no
impermanent
loss.
But
then
then,
on
the
other
hand,
you
know
if,
if,
if
the
project
like,
if
dick
style
does
have
a
vulnerability,
you
would
lose
some
of
your
funds.
B
B
Yeah,
so
I
mean
this
is
really
you
know
like
when
you
talk
about
auditors
right
in
audit
companies.
There
are
like
many
other
companies
and
then
you
could
be
working
there
and
you're
a
guy
you
get.
I
don't
know
paid
like
in
in
a
good
case,
15k
a
month
but
you're
looking
at
contracts
that
you
could
probably
exploit
for
a
couple
billions
or
not
billions,
but
a
couple
millions
and
then
there's
a
misalignment
of
incentives
for
the
guys.
B
You
know
working
at
these
security
audit
firms
to
actually
okay,
let's
let
this
protocol
ship
and
then
I'll
hack.
It
later
so
like
this
thing
always
exists
where
you
could
hack
yeah,
you
could
basically
like
have
still
have
vulnerability
and
then-
and
then
you
know
hack
it
when
it's
it's
bigger,
when
it's
you
know,
has
a
lot
of
tvl.
I
think
here,
you're
you're,
not
or
at
least
you're,
not
generally,
harming
the
project
because
you
would
sort
of,
like
you
know,
disclose
it
responsibly.
E
B
E
E
If
a
developer
were
to
try
to
like
sneak
something
in
you
know,
you
know,
hopefully
that
would
be
caught
by
the
auditors,
and
you
know
that
doesn't
look
great
for
the
developer
right
if
there's
like
a
kind
of
obviously
dumb
mistake
in
the
audit
report
and
similarly,
if
you
had
multiple
auditors
and
like
somebody
is
kind
of
like
letting
something
slide
on
purpose
and
the
other
auditor
catches
it
like.
That,
doesn't
look
great
for
that
auditing
firm
right,
like
it
never
looks
good
when
you
miss
critical
vulnerabilities,
although
of
course
it
can
happen.
J
Yeah
and
we
also
collaborate
with
quant
stamp,
so
they
have
pretty
much
extensive
experience
and
they
we
are
going
to
like
make
a
threshold
of
which,
which
project
and
smart
contract
can
be
covered.
So
like
they
said
that
the
recent
bsc
hacks
some
of
them
was
was
reported
as
quan
quan
stamp.
They
gave
them
to
audit
few
contacts
and
then
they
also
put
some
contacts
that
weren't
audited
and
weren't
open
source
and
got
exploited.
So
it
seems
like
it's
inside
work
because
nobody
knew
what
was
deployed
and
somehow
it
got
exploited.
J
So
we
will
try
to
cover
those
cases
of
like
project,
should
put
all
their
contracts
as
open
source
and
should
have
at
least
one
audit
report,
serious
audit
report
on
their
contacts.
So
like
that's
as
far
as
we
can
go
for
the
beginning,.
E
J
Yeah
so,
as
I
said
like,
our
ecosystem
is
mostly
different
because,
anyway
those
incentives
are
there,
like
anybody
can
exp
do
they
exploit
and
like
take
money,
we
can
make
the
it
better
or
not
so
everything
like,
I
think
it,
and
if,
if
there
we
will
happen
to
find
a
way
that
it
becomes
worse,
then
now
we
will
solve
it.
That's
our
project
with
the
long-term
mission
drew
so
in
the
wild.
We
can
find
like
things
that
we
can
do
better
and
to
stop
doing.
B
Yeah
that
could
actually
be
interesting,
yeah
and
then
I
think
we
were
also
actually
china.
I
met
like
the
other
day.
We
could
also
have
like
the
treasury
itself
generate
yield,
while
it's
kind
of
sitting
there.
Then
you
have
like
this
whole
composability
thing
happening
and
yeah.
Basically,
the
pool
itself
gets
larger.
G
D
If
the
the,
if
the
white
hat
hacker,
if
the
white
hat
hacker
discovers
the
discovers
of
vulnerability
and
then
puts
it
through
this
system,
but
it's
still
like
it's
still
out
there
right
can
they
then
white
hack
it
before
someone
else
does
and
still
get
this
reward.
J
J
This
is
kind
of
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
of
the
system
itself,
so
it's
it's
really
easy
and
already
like.
We
have
those
terms
unconditional
and
in
other
projects.
So
it's
not
even
something
that
we
have
to
invent.
L
I
have
two
questions.
One
is
so
this
means
everyone
can
submit
anytime,
a
heck
or,
and
then
you
know
it
can
overflow
to
the
system
with
just
fake
reports.
This
is
one
question
that
is
somehow
connected.
You
know,
if
I
did
see
it
takes
like
five
or
seven
days
to
respond,
and
somehow
you
know
if
it's
a
big
heck,
then
I
think
you
don't
want
to
wait
like
five
or
seven
days.
So
it's
an
idea
to
create
like
something
like
a
fast
lane.
L
J
Yeah,
so
actually
it's
part
of
what
we
do
when
submit
vulnerability.
If
I
show
the
submit
vulnerability
flow,
so
part
of
it
is
sending
transaction
on
chain,
so
it
have
a
cost.
First
of
all,
so
this
is
like
reducing
the
spam
and
second
of
all,
we
can
like
the
governance
can
set
a
stake
for
it.
So
let's
say
that
it
can
set
like
four
critical
bugs
as
submission,
so
it
can
be
like
one
one
k
of
a
value
of
token
of
it
that
you
have
to
submit
with
the
vulnerability.
J
L
B
Maybe
the
next
kind
of
step
would
be
like
to
continue
the
discussion
on
on
the
dow
talk
and
then
not
entirely
sure
like
how
we
would
structure
this,
but
yeah.
This.
The
hats
will
open
a
deep
style
pool
and
these
that
will
have
to
basically
go
through
the
committee
setup
process
with
you
know
which
contracts
to
cover
and
yeah
the
severities
and
the
awards
and
yeah.
I
need
to
figure
out,
like
I
don't
know,
the
proposal
for
the
dig
style.
G
You
know,
as
we
are
attending
the
ethereum
conference
in
paris,
and
we
will
be
in
in
our
capacity
as
vcs
as
well
and
there
will
be
startups
pitching
I'm
wondering
whether
hats
at
what
stage
is
it
at
the
moment?
Would
it
be
attending
any
conference
giving
talks
raising
funds?
How
does
that
work.
J
Hey
so
right
now,
I'll
fundraise
is
personal
and
then
not
something
we
can
discuss
publicly
and-
and
I
think
that
the
the
only
way
to
allocate
tokens
to
dowse,
as
as
I
see
it,
is
through
some
kind
of
grant,
as
we
can
consider
going
forward
in
the
in
this
way.
If
there
will
be
like
a
collaboration
proposal.
J
But
granting
tokens
for
for
doing
work
is
much.
J
B
Yeah
and
yeah,
I
think
both
oran
and
shai
are
talking
attack
them
and
we
can
also
talk
about
the
key
base
and
yeah.
We
can
move
this
forward
yeah,
I
don't
know
any
other
questions,
or
I
mean
we're
a
bit
over
time.