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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
dxdow
crystal
call
for
monday,
2nd
of
august
2021
today
on
the
agenda.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
new
member
introductions,
but
we
will
be
discussing
a
couple
of
opportunities.
B
There's
the
house
token
farming
and
like
lp
dao,
going
live
generally,
like
a
collaboration
with
house
with
dao
house,
prime
down,
there's
a
couple
of
opportunities
there
to
discuss
lido
for
easter,
staking
good
dollar
collaboration
polygon
strategy
for
the
excel.
Oh,
can
you
hear
me
sorry,
someone
called
me
chain
link
discussion,
devolution
architecture
sessions,
the
east
global
hackathon
preparation,
which
will
be
in
a
month
from
now,
but
we'll
need
to
start
talking
about
this
following
up
on
the
bounty
or
task
board
and
yam
collaboration.
C
Hey
sorry
nylon,
we
actually
do
have
one
new
member
introduction
today,
so
I
can
just
have
one
minute.
C
Fantastic
yeah,
so
we
do
have
one
new
member
introduction
and
I
just
want
to
preface
the
introduction
with
a
reminder
that
the
contributor
ux
and
I
have
been
working
with
position-
a
recruiting
form
to
find
our
next
marketing
lead.
Just
over
the
past
few
months,
we've
been
interviewing
and
having
conversations
with
numerous
candidates
who
we
feel
could
fulfill
this
role.
C
So
this
new
member
introduction
today
is
for
a
candidate
that
tammy
chris
john
and
myself
have
all
been
in
communication
with
and
we'd
like
to
formally
introduce
her
to
the
rest
of
the
community.
Her
name
is
nisa
and
misa.
If
you
just
wanted
to
jump
on
in
and
tell
us
a
few
things
about
yourself.
E
Yeah,
absolutely
thank
you
hi.
My
name
is
nissa
zabo
I've
been
working
in
d5,
I
guess
even
before
it
was
called
d5.
So
since
2017
and
I
my
background's
in
government
affairs
and
public
policy
and
then
when
I
came
to
d5,
I
started
working
more
in
marketing
and
strategic
communications
noticed
that
there
was,
you
know,
a
big
gap
of
you
know
what
we
were
building
or
what
was
being
built
and
how
to
communicate
that
and
how
to
bring
more
people
into
the
community.
And
things
like
that.
E
So
I've
worked
within
the
consensus
mesh.
I
worked
for
a
decentralized
exchange
called
air
swap
which
you
guys
may
be
familiar
with,
as
well
as
a
number
of
infrastructure
projects.
So
looking
at
opportunities
to
increase
scalability
for
blockchain
and
just
how
do
we
make
this
a
long-term,
viable
technology
so
that
those
are
the
things
I'm
passionate
about
yeah,
I'm
really
excited
about
what
daos
can
do.
I
think,
even
just
over
the
weekend
we
saw
some
interest.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
saw
some
interesting
news
of
regulations
in
the
united
states.
E
It's
it's
just
a
bill.
That's
being
put
up,
it
still
has
a
lot
to
get
through
and
be
passed,
but
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
and
I
think
dows
have
an
amazing
opportunity
to
shine
during
this
time.
So
yeah
really
excited
to
be
meeting
you
all
and
to
you
know,
come
more
into
the
fold
of
the
dx
dao
community
and
yeah
last
thing,
I'm
currently
based
in
brooklyn
new
york.
So
I'll
look
forward
to
speaking
with
you
all
more.
B
E
I'm
not
no,
but
it
is
my
favorite
question
to
to
answer
yeah.
I
do
imagine
our
families
have
kind
of
similar
histories
of
you
know,
leaving
hungary
and
coming
to
the
u.s,
and
things
like
that.
So
similarities
there,
but
not
closely
related.
E
I
use
I
did
that
for
a
really
long
time
and
then
yeah
more
recently,
I've
just
gone
for
the
straightforward,
especially
in
this
sort
of
setting.
B
Cool
also
well
welcome
to
the
excel
yeah.
Do
we
have
anyone
else.
B
Yeah
well
welcome
and
feel
free
to,
like
I
don't
know
if
you're
already
on
the
key
base,
but
that's
where
most
of
the
communication
is
done.
We
also
have
a
discord
and
yeah
feel
free
to
initiate
things.
This
is
kind
of
like
what
drives
those.
B
So
yeah,
I
think
maybe
the
first
thing
we're
going
to
be
talking
about.
Is
the
house
farming
token
farming.
D
Yeah
there
we
so
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
topics
which
are
there's
quite
a
few
interesting
topics
on
here
today.
These
are
things
that
we've
been
discussing
in
our
like
dx,
biz,
meetups
and
things,
but
we
kind
of
want
to
make
get
some
more.
I
guess
clarity
from
like
contributors
in
the
community
around
some
of
these,
so
we
can
start
to
move
forward
on
some
of
them.
I
guess-
and
so
this
first
one
is
this
house
token
potential,
like
next
rewards
pool
for
the
background.
D
I
think
people
are
aware
there
was
a
showcase
farm
in
the
past
it.
It
attracted
some
liquidity
from
that
community
for
lp
token
of
of
house
and
west.
D
There
is
this
new
interesting
lp
dao,
which
is
a
really
unique
idea
behind
a
community
of
a
certain
token
forming
a
dow
in
order
to
better
control,
grow
and
focus
on
the
liquidity
of
their
actual
token.
So
I
think
this
is
actually
going
to
be
quite
a
popular
thing
going
forward.
This
is
really
the
first
scenario
where
we've
seen
a
dao
form
specific.
For
this
reason,
this
this
dao
has
incentives
to
enter
this
dow,
with
lp
tokens
or
or
like
west.
D
That
then
becomes
lp
tokens,
and
this
dow,
then
basically
has
a
coordination
mechanism
to
to
use
these
lp
tokens
this.
This
lp
asset
like
how
the
dow
chooses
to
do
it,
and
so,
ideally,
if
there
is
a
farm
for
that
pair
or
for
that,
for
that
token,
basically,
the
dow
can
actually
go
and
farm
that
rewards
reward.
So
the
cool
thing
is
this:
initially,
this
dow
is
being
formed
with
swapper
lp
tokens.
D
If,
if
swapper
has
a
farm,
a
rewards
pool
for
this
for
this,
for
this
pair
there
will
likely
there
will
be
it's
very
good
incentive
for
the
dow
to
actually
keep
the
liquidity
on
swapper
and
grow
the
liquidity
actually
and
bring
more
liquidity
to
swapper
and
and
farm
the
rewards
right,
and
so
at
the
same
time,
if
there
were
other
rewards
pulls
out
there
in
the
market
on
it
could
be
cross
chain
or
it
could
be
other
dexes.
D
You
know
on
on
any
of
the
chains,
if,
theoretically,
that
dow
could
move
the
full
liquidity
to
wherever
the
best
rewards
are
right,
and
so
the
cool
thing
is
swapper's
already
tied
to
it.
Swapper
has
been
communicated
in
the
public
announcement.
Swapper
is
where
the
focus
is
right.
Now,
ideally,
we
we
are
able
to
kickstart
another
rewards
pool
in
some
manner.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
giant
rewards
pool.
It
has
to
be
some
rewards
pool.
D
That
is
basically
like
the
best
rewards
pool
out
there
in
order
to
keep
the
focus
of
this
dow,
concentrating
on
that
pool
on
that
decks
right
and
so,
at
the
same
time
there
there's
also
like
I
think,
honey
swap
and,
and
maybe
sushi
swap
and
some
other
exchanges
out
there
like
there
is
potential
for
rewards
pools
on
those.
For
this
token
as
well.
So
it's
not
like
swapper
is
not
the
only
game
in
town.
So
to
move
forward
with
this
would
be
an
important
thing.
I
think.
F
So
in
this
case,
house
is
providing
25
000
worth
of
their
tokens,
plus
a
little
bit
extra
incentive
for
people
who
deposit
ethereum
into
the
pool,
because
there's
als,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
complicated
stuff
going
on
with
the
the
pool
is
three
months
vesting
in
this
pool,
which
is
also
a
dow
as
guy
mentioned.
F
But
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
do
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
match
the
amount
they
have
in
house
in
in
dxd
for
rewards
for
this
pool
and
also
if
anyone
wants
to
get
added
to
the
team
about
it.
We
have
a
meeting
with
them
this
wednesday.
So
just
let
me
know
on
audio.team.
D
So
the
one
just
to
clarify
on
that
point
can
that
the
it's
a
little
there's
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
different
scenario
than
if,
for
example,
like
with
the
xdi
team,
if
we
had
swapper
token
and
we
wanted
to
rewards
like
a
stake
with
pool
with
alongside
them,
if
they,
if
we
were
going
to
put
both
like
two-sided,
rewards
together,
ideally
in
a
trustless
way,
which
we've
also
been
talking
about,
like
maybe
building
that
with
yam
or
primed,
or
something
like
the
tool
in
order
to
like
co-provide
liquidity.
D
In
this
scenario,
the
the
actual
dow,
that's
organizing
capital.
Around
its
token,
those
house
rewards,
aren't
actually
going
into
swapper.
So
it's
it's
a
unique
scenario
where
we
would
be
providing
a
rewards
pool.
But
it's
not
in
tandem
with
a
third,
like
the
other
party's
token,
going
into
the
same
rewards
farm.
F
Right
so
that
might
be
a
reason
to
do
a
little
bit
less
than
the
the
normal
50
percent
rewards,
and
I
think
the
rewards
should
just
be
done
the
same
way.
You
know
the
word.
Farming
is
normally
done,
instead
of
giving
it
directly
to
the
data,
it's
doing
it
for
shop
or
liquidity.
I
don't
know
what
your
thoughts
are
on,
that.
F
Well,
so
they're
paying
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
money
and,
in
their
token
rewards
for
software
liquidity
fighters,
and
I
mean,
like
I
said,
there's
lots
of
other
platforms
they
could
be
using.
So
this
is
kind
of
preempting
them
moving
to
another
platform
and
making
sure
they
stick
with
with
stopper,
and
I
think
it's
really
valuable
to
have
the
number
one
pair
they're,
the
number,
the
number
one,
the
number
one
most
liquid
market
be
swapper.
For
any
token.
F
G
G
I
think
that's
over
the
last
like
six
weeks,
that
was
part
of
the
initial
campaign,
so
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
house
also
distributed
some
of
their
own
rewards
on
swapper
too,
given
that
dig
style
already
has
I
I'd
be
in
favor
of
thinking
of,
I
think
the
goal
here,
of
course,
is
to
like
showcase
swapper
as
a
farming
platform
and
then
like,
engage
to
down-a-down
interactions,
and
maybe
we
can
do
that
with
other
communities.
G
A
Also
like
they
are
mainly
living
on
excel
right,
so
there's
honey
swap
and
swapper
and
honey
swap
has
like
zero
dot,
three
percent
pool
fee,
and
I
think
we
changed
that
to
0.5
right.
So
I
think
I
think
that's
the
stickiness
probably.
H
D
Yeah
well,
our
our
pool
is,
is,
is
house
west
and
the
other
like
the
honey
swap
pool,
is
house
wx
die
as
well.
So
that's
like
if
people
people
are
more
attracted
to
this
pool.
But
yes,
the
like
this
is
not
a
necessary
thing.
I
I
I
think,
like
dxd
pools,
should
also
have
rewards
in
the
meantime
until
we
have
swapper
token,
but
this
is
just
a
way
to
continue
to
be
attached
to
an
interesting
dao
related
lp
experiment
in
the
space.
D
It
would
be
a
shame
if,
if
this
thing
launched
and
quickly
went
to
left
like
took
all
the
liquidity
out
of
swapper
and
went
to
another
exchange,
but
it
could
happen
and
it
is
possible,
so
it's
not
a
yeah
it's.
This
is
the
issue
with
like
reward
programs
in
general,
like
we
don't
have
any
many
rewards
programs
right
now,
it's
hard
without
swapper
token.
D
This
is
real
money
we
did
like.
We
did
a
big
dxd
end
house
rewards
program
for
the
last
two
months
and,
like
it
got
us
some
attention
and
some
new
people
paying
attention
to
swapper,
but
like
was
it
worth
three
hundred
thousand
dollars?
Who
knows
probably
not
right,
I
don't
know
so.
This
is
like
a
question
in
general.
I
Yeah
I
mean
there
seems
like
there's
good
reasons
here,
but
my
impression
was
the
first
campaign.
The
hope
was
that
there
would
be
some
reciprocation
from
a
house
in
the
future.
Right-
and
this
is,
is
this
kind
of
what
we
had
been
hoping
for?
Is
that
or.
D
This
is
a
new.
This
is
a
very
new
thing,
that's
like
novel
in
the
space,
and
so
it
adjusts.
What
like
an
initial
idea
was
because
the
initial
idea
is
kind
of
less
interesting,
but
but
yes,
theoretically,
they
could
put
house
reward
into
the
swapper
farm
as
well.
We
should
we
can
ask
them
for
that.
D
B
J
I
I
think
we
went
off
the
tangent
a
bit.
We,
as
kaden
pointed
we
have
a
meeting
with
them
this
week,
so
that
will
be
the
whole
point
of
the
conversation
and
we'll
figure
it
out.
D
H
H
F
I
But
what
does
this
lp
dow
do
outside
of
this
like?
What
is
there
like
a?
Maybe
I'm
missing
something
like
what?
How
does
this
lp
dial
work
like
it
gives
rewards
for
people,
locking
some
kind
of
lp
into
the
lp
dial
right
and
it
gives
house
rewards
yeah.
D
It's
very
simple:
it's
a
dow
that
is
created
to
make
organized
decisions
around
a
token
related
to
capital
like
related
to
liquidity.
Around
that
token
right,
and
so
it's
it's
like
an
expanded
version
of
what
swapper
lp
governance
is
supposed
to
be
like
you're
supposed
to
allow
lp
token
holders
on
swapper.
D
The
goal
from
the
start
was
to
allow
to
allow
lp
token
holders
to
like
govern
the
fee
on
swapper
and
like
that's
all
they
were
gonna.
Do
very
simple
kind
of
interesting
still
doesn't
exist
and
not
sure
when
it's
to
exist.
This
is
basically
like
a
better
expanded
if
you
are
in
a
token
community.
This
is
a
dao
that
can
not
only
like
do
stuff
like
like
changing
like
asking
to
change,
swap
fees,
but
it
can
actually
movement
of
lping
capital
around
its
token.
D
F
F
D
I
G
It's
less
from
like
it's
like
a
supply
side
versus
demand
side,
and
I
actually
think
caden's
description
of
this
as
like
a
union
is
a
pretty
good
analogy
because
like
if,
instead
of
a
project
launching
a
farming
program
to
incentivize
like
liquidity
providers,
it
would
be
the
other
side.
It's
liquidity
providers
like
binding
together
to
then
try
to
like
get
people
to
launch
campaigns
for
them.
So
it's
kind
of
coming,
but.
G
D
This
dow
also
has
to
make
a
proposal
to
like
the
project
whose
token
it
is
too
so
to
like,
seek
rewards
from
the
project
as
well
like
from
the
with
the
treasury
of
the
of
the
token
holders
right.
G
And
I
actually
think
that
could
be
that
could
rise
in
importance,
especially
as
like
we
try
to
think
about
what
is
the
liquidity
mining
in
like
the
uniswap
v3
world,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
the
simple
mass
retail
farming
campaigns
will
go
the
unispot
v3
route
just
because
it
is
still
like
pretty
confusing
to
like
provide
liquidity.
So
you
may
see
projects
still
go
for
this
very
simple
50
50
liquidity
provide
but-
or
I
guess
communities
like
liquidity
providers.
G
Go
for
that,
but
that's
not
a
great,
very
capital
efficient
structure
so
that
they
would
probably
need
to
have
incentives
to
convince
liquidity
providers
to
deposit
at
the
50
50
ratio.
But
I
think
that's
the
simplest
way
to
reach
the
mass
retail
liquidity
provider
market.
A
F
One
join
after
three
months,
so
there's
a
one
a
one
week
period
at
the
start
where
anybody
can
join
it's
starting.
Actually,
I
think
it's
starting
today
and
then
it's
ending
in
like
a
week
from
now
where
anyone
can
join.
But
then,
after
that,
it's
it's
closed.
So
no
one
else
can
join
for
three
months.
F
So
well
in
this
situation,
it's
it's
a
lot
more
complicated.
I
like
nathan's
idea
of
of
asking
them
to
make
the
liquidity
in
swapper,
because
that
way,
we'd
be
able
to
basically
just
have
like
the
same
standard
for
everyone.
Then
we'd
be
able
to
do
the
50
50.
and
then
chris
you're
saying
that's
not
the
most
capital
efficient
way,
but
I
mean
I
think
it's
good.
It's
like
everybody
gets
the
same
deal
because
they
make
a
negotiation
a
lot
easier,
because
everybody
would
know.
F
Okay,
software
will
match
5050
with
us
the
liquidity
incentives
we
have.
But
if
do
you
have
other
ideas
of
like
a
more
capital
efficient
way?
Well,.
I
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
like
what
the
so
wait,
so
this
tao,
this
lp
dao,
is
going
to
decide
where
to
put
all
of
its
lp
tokens.
Are
they
like?
When
is
this
decision
point
like
what
like
yeah,
like
this
kind
of,
goes
back
to
nylon's
question
right
like
what's
our
goals
here
like
what
are
we
trying
to
get
get
them
to
do
and
when.
A
A
Besides,
like
just
giving
house
token
holders,
dxd
rewards,
why
not
make
like
an
experiment
with
dxd
holders
by
letting
them
like,
creating
a
house
down
and
let
them
like
create
a
union,
and
we
would
give
like
the
exterior
walls
here,
dxd
holders.
Why
is
that
not
better?
Because
we
actually
like
the.
D
So
geronimo
you're,
that's
a
really
good
point.
There
is
potential
for
dxd
community
to
do
this,
there's
potential
for
every
token
community.
To
do
this.
The
reason
why
this
one
is
house
is
because
this
is
the
first
one.
This
is
the
first
experiment
like
they're,
not
even
doing
it
with
like
giant
amounts
at
first,
but
this
is
the
first
time
this
kind
of
lp
dao
has
formed,
and
so,
if
our
our
goal
is
to
keep
it
attached
to
swapper,
have
it
successful?
D
D
I
H
Mean
this
is
already
happening
with
the
I
mean,
didn't
basically
sushi
swap,
say:
hey
will
match
x,
die,
rewards,
and
I
mean
they're
doing
this,
but
without
the
dow
part
right
so
they're
matching
already
for
partnerships,
or
at
least
sushi
swap,
is
doing
it
and
they
have
a
program
for
it.
H
This
is
like
I
would
say
this
is
more
like
a
structured
way
to
do
it
and
give
lp
holders
more
power.
So
yeah
I
mean
this.
This
was
already
a
way
to
get
liquidity
to
amms.
This
battle
was
already
ongoing.
This
is
basically
what
farming
is
but
yeah.
Maybe
it's
not
like
outspoken.
Not
every
project
knows
about
this
yeah.
B
Yeah,
I
suggest
maybe
like
before
the
call
with
them
we
can
have.
I
don't
know,
maybe
even
like
a
10
15
minute
minute.
I
don't
know
kind
of
like
recap
and
figure
out
like
what
are
the
goals
and
what
do
we
want
to
present
them,
because,
obviously,
there's
like
a
lot
of
things
we
can
do,
but
we
need
to
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do
or.
I
D
D
F
Go
go
ahead,
I'm
just
saying
you
can
also
join
with
ethereum
and
then
they'll.
Add
your
liquidity
to
the
pool
go
ahead.
I
B
Yeah
and
then
you
know
if
we
can
even
have
like
a
like
a
volume
target
for
swapper
from
this
collaboration.
Like,
I
think
that's,
that's.
That's
good
enough,
essentially
like
to
decide.
Okay,
we're
gonna
allocate,
I
don't
know
100k
for
this.
In
order
to
get
to
you
know
symmetrical
volume
on
swapper.
B
F
Yep,
just
let
me
know
and
I'll
add
you
to
the
the
collaboration
group.
B
All
right
great,
I
think,
maybe
the
next,
so
we
have-
I
don't
know
like
if
these
are
gonna
go
on.
I
don't
know
how
much
time
we'll
have
for
each
thing.
I
would
say
that
I
think
we
should
talk
about
the
eve
global
hackathon
and
the
prime
dial
kind
of
like
next
steps.
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
we've
like
raised
this
opportunity
with
prime
dow
in
the
chats
a
bit
we
plan
to
have
luke
from
prime
dow
come
have
like
an
ama
between
the
two
communities
and
actually
a
presentation
related
to
this
opportunity
and
doubt
about
relations
in
general
on
thursday,
following
the
the
main
dx
dial
call,
but
I
think
he
might
there's
some
interest
to
like
start
the
discussion
in
the
forum
potentially
prior
to
that.
So
maybe
he
can
get
a
post
up
in
there.
D
So
we
could
start
the
discussion,
there's
already
some
strong
opinions
in
general
on
prime
dial,
but
so
what
is
that
could?
Could
we
concisely
recap.
D
D
The
so
they're
doing
a
seed
round
and
they're
close
to
closing
it,
and
some
investment
from
dx
dallas
dx
ventures
into
this
round,
to
basically
get
some
some
stake
in
prime
dial
in
order
to
start
to
align,
interest
better
and
and
basically
allow
collaboration
around
products
and
things
that
we
can
work
on
together
and
there's
quite
a
few
things
that
they're
working
on
that
are
could
tie
in
with
with
the
platforms
and
products
that
we
have.
D
They
also
use
doubt
stack,
for
example,
and
they
also
need
a
better
governance
system
and
they
are
working
on
some
of
their
own
governance
systems
like
prime
pools,
which
are
like
governing
using
lp
tokens
between
co-share
liquidity
and
things,
and
so
there's
a
handful
of
like
inter-related
projects
that
we
are
working
on
and
primed.
I
was
working
on
that
it
makes
sense
to
definitely
collaborate
with
them
in
some
way.
D
It
you
don't
need
to
do
an
investment
in
order
to
do
that,
you
could
find
other
ways
to
collaborate
and
other
ways
to
align
incentives,
but
it's
obviously
better
and
it
was
easier
if
you
have
like
ownership
in
each
other's
systems.
I
guess
so
you
could
do
it
by
a
token
swap
like
dxd
in
and
prime,
I
guess,
or
you
could
do
a
like-
an
investment
of
50
or
100k
into
this
prime
seed
round.
That's
currently
happening,
so
it's
an
opportunity
to
get
in
from
the
start.
Basically,
at
a.
D
I
Noting
that
they
already
did
a
sale
right,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
could
really
call
this
the
start,
but.
D
Yeah
and
the
and
the
people
that
hold
like
the
original
prime
token
are
apparently
getting
equivalent
or
slightly
more
than
their
like.
If
you
call
it,
prime
one,
if
this
is
prime
two,
like
the
prime
token
holders
of
the
first
token,
are,
are
basically
automatically
participating
as
well.
A
D
I
think
they've
changed
like
quite
a
bit
of
their
of
their
road
map
and
their
products,
and
things
like
that.
It
was
originally
the
initial
token
was
like
framed
on
and
then
it's
also
yeah.
I
think
I'm
like
locking
up
a
new
token
that
allows
better
alignment
longer
term,
but
luke
like
yeah
luke,
would
probably
be
the
best
person
to
answer
these
questions,
but
we
could
start
answering
if
he
does
a
forum
post
about
it.
We
could
start
asking
these
questions
in
the
forum
prior
to
thursday's.
Call
too.
B
Yeah,
I
I
I
think,
like
I
think
we
need
to
have
luke
on
one
of
these
calls
like
explaining
kind
of
like
answering
some
of
these
questions
and
essentially
pitching
primed
out
and
in
general.
I
think
this
is,
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
in
common,
like
sky
said
between
the
products
that
we're
trying
to
do,
and
you
know
the
challenges
that
we're
facing,
especially
you
know
since
we're
both
using
like
dowstec
governance
and
then
I
think,
out
of
you,
know
the
entire
world
of
or
the
ecosystem
of
dao's.
B
That
today
is
in
ethereum.
These
are
the
guys
who
are,
you
know
most
similarly
aligned
with
dxdow.
Yes,
they're,
not,
as
you
know,
big,
on
decentralization
as
we
are,
but
they're.
Definitely
I
don't
know
sort
of
influential
in
the
space
and
they
do
stuff.
I
mean
one
of
the
things
is
that
it's
like
this
taoist
conference
right.
It's
mainly
them,
or
I
guess
mainly
felipe
and
yeah.
I
mean
a
partnership
with
them
like
could
go
a
long
way
and
I'm
yeah.
I
Very
interested
in
like
building
these
kinds
of
collaborations,
and
I
think
we
definitely
should
explore
it.
I
would
hope
that
we
could
lead
with
what
are
the
actual
collaborations
rather
than
you
know,
making
putting
money
like
if
they're
just
coming
out
and
asking
money
first
after
we've
had
you
know
ample
opportunity
in
the
past
to
work
together.
I
A
Like
nylon
already
said,
I
think
they
actually
built
like
actually
building
products
which
are
competitors
to
us.
So
I
think-
and
I
totally
agree
with
john
like
if
we
like,
if
we
see
opportunities
where
we
can
just
like
request
like
okay,
this
is
like
a
partnership
or
a
collaboration
where
we
would
benefit
a
lot.
I
think
we
should
like
actually
propose
it
and
be
proactive
about
like
okay.
Let's
do
it
together.
We
have
something
very
clear,
and
what
do
you
guys
think
about
it?
A
I
think
that
is
like
a
way
better
approach
and
like
actually
really
trying
to
get
a
real
partnership
done,
and
I
think
the
aim
yeah,
the
like
the
thursday
call
is
a
perfect
opportunity
for
us
to
actually
like
get
to
know
what
they
are
and
what
they're
doing
and
who's
actually
doing
it.
I
think
the
team
kind
of
changed,
like
the
the
main
driver
like
pat,
is
actually
not
working
on
it.
I
know
philippe
is
actually
doing
podcasts
so,
like
who's
actually
building
stuff.
B
Yeah
I'm
so
I
guess,
like
you'll,
be
able
to
answer
these
questions
and
I
think,
just
like
we
just
talked
about
the
house
collaboration
and
we
have.
We
should
have
some
targets
and
goals
that
you
want
to
achieve
same
here
like
we
want
to
invest
money.
Maybe
okay,
we're
looking
for
a
return,
but
if
this
is
more
strategic
like
what
are
these
strategic
goals
like?
I
D
We
have
tokens
which
is
like
a
great
way
to
align
interest.
I
just
think
we
need
to
start
being
more
and
even
dao
house,
for
example,
like
we're,
always
like
very
closed
from
outsiders
versus
we
should
just
be
more
open,
and
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
risk,
but
it's
better.
I
think
it's
better
in
the
space
to
be
open
and
collaborative
then
closed
and
not.
A
Yeah,
I
wouldn't
yeah.
I
agree
with
like
being
closed.
I
think
we're
just
conservative
giving
out
like
we
have
actually
respect.
Regarding
our
token
and
like
the
token
price
is
important
and
we're
just
like
not
accepting
any
deal
like
everyone
is
just
printing
money,
it's
pretty
easy
to
do.
Partnership
with,
like
continuously
printing
money,
printing
coins,
right
like
we
are
not
in
the
position
to
do
that,
like
we
have
a
yeah.
I
A
Based
on
my
experience
with
like
being
a
dao
and
talking
to
a
company,
I
would
say
like
that's
actually
most
of
time
will
fail
and
we
see
that
with
sushi
too,
like
even
if
we
see
gets
such
a
big
backlash.
I
think,
like
the
only
way
for
us
to
like
really
do.
Partnerships
is
down
to
down,
and
I
think
we
should
like
really
explore
it
and
actually
be
very
proactive
and
if
there's
a
potential
real
doll
coming
up,
we
should
actually
like
really
try
to
work
with
them.
L
Yeah,
so
I
think
the
sentiment
from
like
skye-
and
I
talked
to
luke
at
ecc
and
he's
gonna-
he's
been
thinking
of
specific
points
where
we
could
work
on
like
we
understand
they
work
with
balance
and
they
they're
doing
like
the
front
end
for
their
like
balancer
pool
ideo
platform,
but
you
know
we're
in
d5
and
there's
a
lot
of
similar
d5
products.
L
So,
like
you
guys
said,
if
there's
a
good
point
of
reference
that
we
can
work
with
one
another
on
let's,
let's,
let's
approach
it
from
that
that
attitude
and
then
we
can
kind
of
like
see
where
it
lands.
I
understand
like.
Why
would
we
give
50k
for
something
when
there's
no
reciprocation
to
me,
if
we're
doing
that
as
a
sign
of
just
like
good,
some
sort
of
like
just
good,
you
know
a
good
gesture.
L
It
would
be
better
to
do
a
token
swap
of
some
kind
and
that
could
be
discussed
as
well.
If
that
is
of
interest
to
anyone.
Obviously
it
depends
on
like
the
terms
of
the
token
and
stuff
like
that,
but
we
should
just
hear
him
out
and
see
what
specific
plans
he
was
thinking.
Would
be
good
points
for
us
to
collaborate
on.
I
So
is
the
framing
of
this
collaborations
or
is
the
framing
like
like
a
pitch
for
dx
ventures,.
L
I
would
say
both,
but
we
specifically
basically
kind
of
said
what
you
guys
said,
which
is
we
think
that
we
need
specific
points
to
collaborate
on
and
we
would
prefer
some
sort
of
token
swap
versus
just
like
an
investment.
L
Yeah,
it
is
the
same
thing,
but
I
think
for
some
reason,
the
the
tenor
is
different.
It
seems
because
it's
more
like
a
partnership
with
plans
to
collaborate
on
certain
things
versus
just
giving
them
money
for
tokens
and
also,
if
you
don't
want
to
give
dxd
away,
you
would
what
we
prefer
to
do.
I
mean
it's
just
like
a
a
question
of
like
okay.
L
We
have
a
lot
of
ethan
our
treasury,
so
that's
like
giving
away
funds
but
like
a
token
that
they're
holding
on
to
that's
locked
or
something
like
that
would
mean
that
they
have
some
sort
of
interest
like
we
would
have
if
we're
holding
their
token
in
the
success
of
the
project
right.
So
what
makes
more
sense.
A
Yeah,
it
would
be
great
to
put
a
priority
in
like
talking
about
collaboration
like
real,
well-defined
collaboration
points
first
and
then
potentially
talk
about
like
investment
or,
like
token
swap
whatever.
I
think
I
think
yeah.
We
would
benefit
way
more
in
like
actually
working
together
as
two
dollars
on
on
things
together,
which
benefits
us
both.
B
B
B
All
right,
so,
let's
move
on
to
the
youth
global
hackathon.
It
seems
like
the
next
month's
topic
is
essentially
open
and
I
was
just
thinking
of
yeah,
maybe
incentivizing.
B
B
Okay,
so
I
was
thinking
that
maybe
maybe
we
could
incentivize
the
building
of
swapper
or
the
build
sorry
the
building
of
a
carrot,
that's
harder
or
something
along
these
lines
of
of
you
know:
incentive
aligning
mechanisms
for
daos
and
decentralized
organizations
in
general,
and
then
you
know
we
can.
We
can
outline
what
we've
been
thinking
with
carrot
and
you
know
see
where,
where
it
goes.
A
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
especially
like
like
one
one
nice
dab,
would
be
that
that
people
can
basically
create
compound
fork
proposals
or
like
yeah
compound,
like
governance
systems
proposal
in
combination
with
like
a
kpi
campaign
or
whatever,
and
basically
asking
the
specific
govern
compound
governance
system
for
something
like
that.
That
would
be
definitely
great.
B
I
mean
I
I
would
I
would
try
to
incentivize
or
to
you
know
hint
at
using
omen
for
that
right,
and
you
know
this.
This
could
be
anything
from
like
a
fund
raise
right.
Like
we're
a
dow.
We
want
to
raise
a
million
dollars,
but
you
know
half
of
that
is
locked
for
a
year
or
you
know
we
deliver
our
first
product
and
then
we
get.
B
B
I'm
personally,
I
don't
think
like
only
retroactive
funding
makes
sense,
but
you
should
have
like
maybe
half
of
the
funding
in
the
beginning
and
then
half
of
the
funding
in
the
end
to
incentivize
actually
like
following
through,
and
this
could
be
yeah
this.
This
would
be
something
interesting
to
do
while
incorporating
with
swapper,
and
then
I
don't
know
calling
it
carrot
or
something
of
that
sort.
So
sounds
a
little
more
like
awkward.
A
To
me,
but
yeah
yeah,
and
also
like
I
mean
the
the
interesting
thing
about
carrots-
is
that
you
can
actually
integrate
it
everywhere,
like
kpi,
based
on
liquidity
on
amms,
based
on
governance.
What
else.
B
A
I
mean
these
guilds
the
guild.
That
would
be
awesome.
We
have
like
smart
contracts
ready.
Someone
needs
to
create
like
a
front
end
which
interacts
with
our
guilds
guild
contracts.
A
That
is
like
an
easy,
low
hanging
fruit
for
us,
then
treasury
management
dab
for
our
guilds,
an
analytic
page
similar
like
uniswep.m4
for
our
guilds,
I
mean
the
guild
stuff's
completely
like
you
can
go
crazy
or
not.
D
Yeah,
so
the
related
to
that,
like
that
one
one
way
that
it
was
phrased,
is
like
like
dx
dial,
is
about
governance,
so
we
have
a
bounty
for
like
best
new,
like
improvements
around
the
style
government's
governance
tools,
like
that's
the
bounty
and
then
people
come
into
your
discord
like
and
they're
like
bouncing
these
ideas
around,
and
that's
where
you
can
suggest
like
more
specific
things
like
the
things
you
just
listed
like
right,
so
the
bounty
is
general
and
then,
if
people
have
their
own
ideas
or
they
want
ideas,
you
could
just
you
can
like
throw
around
interesting
like
specific
ideas
like
that,
and
so
that's
generally
how
those
hackathons
are
done.
D
D
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
should
like
support
like
a
doustec
type
of
bounties,
because
hey
it's
basically
that
right,
like
I,
don't
think
we
should
put
money
or
like
resources
on
letting
people
build
on
on
like
that
contracts.
I
Like
I
think,
the
typical
pattern
is
like
you
know,
integrate
with
swapper
or
carrot
or
aqua
or
whatever
right,
and
then,
if
you
can
find
a
way
to
do
that,
then
you
are
eligible
for
this
bounty.
This
prize
right.
B
I
I
don't
think
it's
it's
like
that.
It's
not
like,
like
physical
hackathons,
where
you
would
have
bounties
to
integrate
your
own
software.
I
think
it's
more
open
and
then
you
know,
if
you
have
chain
link,
then
obviously
you
can
say:
okay,
whoever
integrates
chain
link
in
the
best
way
will
be
able
to
win,
but
this
could
be
like
any
app
in
the
world.
D
Related
to
omen,
where
it's
like,
like
embed
omen
in
ex
like
experience
another
experience
in
the
space
right
like
the
way
that
that
it
was
there,
was
a
bounty
for
a
hackathon
prize
for
omen
being
embedded
into
mask
network
right.
So
any
ways
that
get
omen
and
swapper.
I
mean
it's
hard
to
choose
aqua
and
carrot,
because
we
don't
really
have
those
ready.
A
Well,
I
think
aqua
is
definitely
in
a
position
where
we
like
do
something
with
aqua,
because
there's
like
tons
you
can,
you
can
actually
do
like
integrate.
A
abp
type
auction,
create
like
this
dashboard
for
auctioneers,
like
users
who
are
actually
creating
those
options
integrating
with
you
might
as
well
or
a
swapper,
preferably
there's
like.
We
actually
have
a
lot
of
stuff
we
can
like
point
to,
but
I
think,
as
guy
already
said,
I
think
they
want
like
very
abstract
like
do
something
with
omen.
L
It
so
we
have
like
this.
We
were,
we
saw
gelato
networks,
presentation
at
ethbc
and
they
have,
of
course
their
like
automated
smart
contract
technology,
but
it's
not
ready
for
x-dive.
L
I
Yeah
totally,
and
I
think
like
what
you
can
do
too
is
you
can
make
the
prize
actually
very
broad,
like
you
know,
integrating
with
bowman,
and
then
you
provide
some
ideas
like
some
examples
like,
for
example,
we
would
really
like
you
know
if
this
thing
could
work
on
xti
or
if
we
could
integrate
with
compound
or
whatever
right.
B
Yeah
and
nathan,
I
think
what
you're
mentioning
is
sort
of,
like
just
general,
digs
now
bounties
that
could
happen
like
when
you're
talking
about
a
hackathon.
It's
usually
people
build
a
product
or
want
to
build
something,
and
then
you
know
you
can
incentivize
them
by
integrating
some
of
your
products
or
you
know
creating
something
related
to
one
of
your
products,
and
I
think
like,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
omen
is
great
for
that,
because
you
can
build
so
many
different
things
around.
You
know
this
prediction
market,
so
yeah.
I
E
B
Like
it's
a
virtual
hackathon
and
then
people
build
sort
of
like
whatever
we're,
not
yet
talking
about
east
lisbon,
which
is
kind
of
like
the
next
physical
hackathon.
This
is
still
like
a
virtual
hackathon.
B
I
guess
it's
similar
but
like
if
global
they've
they've
managed
to
make
the
virtual
hackathons
like
pretty
good,
we
have
a
month
to
build,
and
then
people
usually
would
actually
build
apps
or
dapps.
And
then
you
know
some
of
these
will
actually
continue
to
being
products
of
their
own.
Or
I
don't
know
in
our
case,
maybe
absorbed
by
the
style
invested
by
the
adventurers.
And
I
don't
know
increasingly.
B
B
D
So
yeah
yeah
lisbon,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
quite
decentrally
organized.
I
think
if
there
are
people
that
could
help
actually
organize
it
and
like
make
dx
dao
one
of
the
main
organizers
like
participants
in
eat
lisbon,
I
don't
know
if
there's
gonna
be
a
hackathon.
It
seems
more
of
a
of
a
three-day
period
where
people
are
going
to
come
to
a
city
and
everyone's
going
to
organize
their
own
events
right,
there's
no
like
official
sponsors
or
anything.
So
it's
going
to
be,
but
there
will
probably
be
a.
C
L
I
think
at
some
point
we
might
need
to
have
like
a
separate
conversation,
maybe
later
this
week
about
the
presentations
at
ethc
and
because
I
think
it's
gonna,
we'll
post
something
basically
on
the
forum
regarding
like
what
we
saw
in
you
know,
kind
of
general
takeaways
pros
and
cons
and
next
steps
on
like
any
partnership.
So
maybe
we
need
to
schedule
like
a
separate
time
later
this
week
to
do
that.