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From YouTube: DXbiz Weekly Gathering [2022-06-06]
Description
00:05 Agenda
01:28 New Member Introduction
03:35 Carrot Integration with Witnet in ETHCC - Swag Alt.
26:26 Gnosis Chain Event Co-organize/Sponsor
36:26 DXhackathon
54:10 DoinGud
A
Sure
I
can
recording
we
shared
the
agenda
for
today's
dxbiz
call.
We
yeah.
We
were
missing
elon
today
for
some
sad
news,
but
we
we
normally
start
with
this
chit
chat
and
then
we'll
do
remember
intros.
We
have
one
new
member
here
today
we
don't
have
a
presenter
for
a
presenting
end
project
or
or
company
for
first
time
in
a
while
and
then
some
immediate,
we
have
some
immediate
discussions
around
yeah
with
upcoming
events.
A
A
There's
a
there's,
a
squad,
that's
focused
on
the
dx
hack,
hackathon
in
bogota
and
and
then
there's
a
proposal
in
the
forum
about
doing
good,
which
is
a
follow-up
on
their
team
joining
the
call
a
week
or
two
ago.
So
we
will
start
with
new
member
intros.
We
have
sizzle
here
if
you
would
like
thanks
for
having
your
camera
on,
and
so
we
can
put
a
face
here
to
your
name
and
if
you
could
just
introduce
yourself
give
some
background
just
so,
we
can
become
familiar.
That'd,
be
awesome.
B
B
B
Never
ledger
is
like
supply
chain
transparency,
and
before
that,
I
I
worked
at
the
deloitte
blockchain
lab,
so
deloitte
had
like
a
lab
that
was
like
in
charge
of
all
the
indian
region,
and
I
I
worked
on
our
marketing
and
events
and
also
servicing
clients
there.
So
what
melanie-
and
I
have
just
been
talking
about,
is
like
checking
out
whether
I
could
be
contributing
on
the
events,
management,
side
or
strategic
partnerships,
which
is
something
that
I
yeah
just
have
a
lot
of
experience
in.
B
A
A
Is
that
here
yeah
was
that
maybe
we
didn't
get
to
catch
up
on
this?
So
the
next
topic
we
we've
been
discussing
after
we
did
the
carrot
campaign
in
amsterdam,
we've
been
discussing
whether
there
is
a
carry
campaign
that
would
be
interesting
to
do
during
ecc
time
or
in
east
paris,
and
obviously
this
platform
has
you
know
is-
is
fully
very,
very
broad
and
has
the
ability
to
you
know
we
could
incentivize
lots
of
different
things.
A
By
the
time
we
get
to
paris
because
wit
net
we
yeah
we've
been,
we
had
a
call
with
whitney
and
they
are
planning
to
do
like
in
a
new
version
of
their
their
egg
game,
which
they've
been
progressing
and
coming
up
with
new
ideas
around.
It's
had
success
at
a
couple:
different
in-person
events
in
the
ethereum
space,
and
they
have
a
plan
to
like
go
big
in
paris
and
rev,
who
is
also
connected
to
atlantis
world,
is
very
familiar
with
carrot.
A
We
were
discussing,
you
know
some
of
the
goals
of
their
game
and
then
how
or
how
carrick
could
theoretically
be
used
to
to
kind
of
go
in
parallel
to
that
game
or
build
on
top
of
their
game
and
capture
the
attention
of
everyone.
That's
playing
their
game,
but
have
this
side
incentive
via
carrot
mechanism
to
to
really
help
this
game
succeed?
And-
and
you
know
if,
if
success
in
their
game
is
to
like
make
more
connections
among
different
people
by
learning
about
and
scanning
and
learning
about,
each
other's.
A
You
know
web
profile
and
backgrounds
and
things
that's
kind
of
what
the
goal
of
that
game
is
and
if
carrick
could
could
could
add
some
mechanism
that
that,
like
targets,
the
goals
of
improving
that
game,
even
more
than
than
it
already,
was
going
to
do,
and
so
there's
some
ideas
around
using
nfts
there's,
which
I
think
would
be
more
relevant
to
carrot.
V1
or
there's
ideas
around
layering
carrot
onto
and
and
getting
carrot
carrot
tokens
with
some
incentive
in
the
hands
of
the
people
that
are
actually
playing
the
game.
A
So,
at
the
time
that
someone
you
know
scans
their
or
picks
up
their
their
like
the
things
necessary
to
start
playing
the
game,
they
also
get
carrots
into
a
wallet
of
theirs,
and
then
they
have
that
carrick
goal
in
in
parallel
to
the
game,
one
some
of
the
yeah-
I
don't
know
nathan-
was
there
anything
or
yeah?
Was
there
anything
else
on
that
you
wanted
to
this
or
you
were
on
the
call
yeah.
I
can't
remember.
C
A
A
You
have
this
waiting
period
and
this
waiting
period
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
exchange
contact
information
or
your
twitter
profile.
Or
you
know,
maybe
your
nemi
profile,
something
very
social
with
the
people
that
you
are
playing
this
game
with,
so
theoretically,
nimi
could
fit
into
that.
We
we
yeah,
we
didn't.
A
So
there
is
a
possibility
to
also
add
like
anemi
profile,
if,
if
it
existed
like
properly
into
that
that
social
exchange
of
information
when
you're
playing
this
game,
so
theoretically
you
could
yeah.
The
question
is:
what
would
we
want
to
incentivize
in
this
game?
How
we
want
to
use
carrot,
what
funding
or
nft
rewards
or
something
would
we
want
to
use
to
to
promote
that
incentive
and
and
help
it
get
achieved
and
so
yeah?
A
If
it
is
growing
the
awareness
of
carrot,
you
know,
and
it's
it's
also,
you
know
in
the
in
amsterdam,
we
had
a
goal
to
really
grow
the
awareness
of
dx
dao
and
we
used
coward
for
that.
So
people
got
awareness
of
carrot,
but
they
also
were
getting
a
bigger
awareness
of
dx
dow,
and
that
was
the
money
that
dxdot
was
willing
to
put
behind
that
initiative
and,
in
this
case,
we'd
be
highlighting
carrot
into
this
community.
That's
going
to
be
in
paris,
but
the
it's
there's
like
the
thing.
A
That's
it's
not
necessarily
benefiting
dick's
dao,
it's
benefiting!
Maybe
this
this
whitneck
game,
but
then
also
growing
the
awareness
of
carrot.
So
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
there.
It's
we
could
do
this
in
a
very
light
scale
like
on
top
of
what
they're
already
doing
or
if
we
had
ideas,
we
could
bring
those
ideas
to
the
whitnet
team
and
they
could
potentially
embed
some
of
those
ideas
into
the
actual
experience
game
experience.
A
But
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
about
this.
Is
that
you
you
are.
I
know
you
and
keenan
were
big.
You
players
of
the
game
and
you
also
proposed
kind
of
connecting
with
witness.
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
like
a
specific
idea
that
you
had
in
mind
for
either
nimi
or
carrot
or
witness
that
we
would
want
to
like
pursue.
D
Even
if
you
like
the
things
you
can't
take,
take
everything
with
you
right
and
and
and
it's
just
getting
worse
and
worse,
to
be
honest
and
we're
part
of
it
right.
We
do
do
we
do
swag,
we
do
cool
stuff,
even
if
you
do
cool
stuff.
I
think
it's
not
personal.
If
people
throw
away
your
stuff
right-
and
I
just
began
to
think
about-
is
anyone
doing
anything
different
or
unique
and
I
think,
like
witness,
is
always
doing
something
really
really
unique.
D
Every
time
we
are
on
a
conference
they're
there
and
they
actually
put
a
lot
of
effort
doing
something
that
doesn't
feel
web
2
actually
feels
web
3
actually
feels
like
they.
It's
not
even
close
to
what
they
do
with
their
product.
Just
like
just
do
cool
stuff,
and
I
think
the
trend
should
be
what
whitnet
is
doing.
D
I
think
the
style
should
not
go
on
this
road
of
of
just
doing
swag
and
do
cool
stuff
to
expensive
stuff,
bad
for
environment
and
et
cetera,
et
cetera
and
and
dirk
has
experience
in
like
augmented
reality,
stuff
and
games
and
stuff
like
that,
so
yeah
I
thought
hey.
We
do
have
some
interest.
We
know
a
company
that
already
does
stuff,
let's
sync
with
them
like:
do
they
need
help?
Can
we
do
something
with
them?
Can
we
get
help
from
them
like
they
already
done
a
bunch
of
campaigns?
I
think
carrot
was
really
cool.
D
It
was
really
fun.
We
got
a
lot
of
praise
for
carrot,
even
though
the
campaign,
I
would
say
the
campaign
was
successful.
We
talked
with
a
lot
of
people
and-
and
we
got,
I
think,
a
few
followers,
but
the
idea
was
actually
get
carrot,
the
name
out
and
what
it
does
and
explain
how
it
works.
So
in
that
sense
it
was
successful.
E
D
D
B
Stuff,
so
just
my
two
cents,
I
think
it's
a
really
like.
I
I
completely
get
you
with
the
whole
swag
thing
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
big
environmental
waste.
My
only
thing
would
be
that
I
mean
the
game
as
it
is
right
now
is
not
really
a
game
yet
so
I
would
just
kind
of
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
have
played
the
alpha
or
whatnot,
but
I
would
just
maybe
do
that
before
you
decide
if
it
lives
up
to
that
kind
of
like
exposure
that
you
want.
B
D
B
So
so
that's
kind
of
like
one
of
the
things
I
prepared
that
post
was
that
for
east
amsterdam
that
they
developed
like
a
quest
so
essentially
like
let's
say
instead
of
giving
out,
you
know,
swag,
you
could
have
a
pull-up.
You
scan
that
pull-up
and
you
have
that
power.
If
you
have
access
and
then
in
the
game,
you
could
find
an
asset,
you
could
find
a
non-player
character.
You
could
collect
an
in-game
asset
that
could
be,
let's
say,
dx
style,
t-shirt
or
whatnot.
B
The
only
thing
I'm
like
I
think
this
was
really
fun
and
it's
something
that
we
just
dear
to
watch,
but
I
just
don't
know
if
they're
at
a
product
maturity
where
they
can
support
that
right
now.
So
I
would
just
be
really
specific
with
like,
like
aligning
expectations
with
them,
to
make
sure
that,
like
what
what
you
want
built
could
actually
be
built
by
them,
because
it's
still
like,
what's
in
in
a
month
time,
yeah.
D
A
So
sizzle
you're
you're
mainly
talking
about
atlantis
world
like
yeah
in
the
game
yeah,
so
we
yeah,
we
also
we
dx
tao,
has
a
has
a
home
in
atlantis
world.
We
we've
been
waiting,
we're
still
waiting
for
like
a
couple
of
our
products
to
like,
be
able
to
be
used
in
there
and
agree
that
their
like
overall
experience
of
being
able
to
place
that
people
can
hang
out
in.
D
A
Is
not
really
there,
yet
it's
a
little
slower
than
I
think
their
timeline
was
expecting
they
they.
Actually,
we
we
actually
used
carrot
tokens
in
the
investment
grant
that
dx
dow
gave
to
atlantis
worlds
to,
like
you
know,
like
other
d5
projects
that
gave
grants
to
get
bases
and
their
products
involved.
We
actually
used
carrot
and,
unfortunately,
the
the
portion
that
was
the
ins
which
had
a
conditional
payout
was
whether
or
not
the
three
deliverables
were
going
to
be
met
by
april
15th.
A
It
didn't
those
didn't
happen,
actually,
so
we're
still
waiting
on
that,
but
the
game,
the
game
that
we're
talking
about,
like
with
wit,
net,
which
obviously
revs
connected
to
both,
I
think
different
companies
is
this
egg
game.
Have
you
ever?
Did
you
ever
get
to
play
the
egg
scanning
game
in
like
lisbon?
I
think
it
was
in
paris
originally
right.
It's
this.
B
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
the
one
in
denver-
apparently,
I
guess,
didn't
get
as
much
attention
the
one
in
lisbon,
which
is
that
I
think
maybe
one
was
very,
very
popular,
and
so
that
is
what
they
are.
That
is
what
wit
net
is
planning
to
do
again
in
paris
and
they
they're
like
a
long
time
sponsor
of
cc
and
stuff,
and
so
they're
planning
to
go,
like,
I
guess,
really
big
with
this
new
version
of
this
scanning
game
yeah.
A
A
E
B
Yeah,
okay,
I
have
limited
experience
with
that.
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
in
general
to
do
those
kind
of
digital
incentives
rather
than
swag.
It
was
just
more
general
observation
that,
like
if
you
do
something
great
at
lenses,
I
would
just
be
sure
that
the
scope
of
what
they
need
to
build
is
really
clear
and-
and
that
is
realistic,
because
I
think
they
are
they're
still
a
small
startup.
So
yeah,
that's
just
my
my
thoughts.
A
F
Skye
you
mentioned
sorry.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
follow
up
on
what
you
were
mentioning
carrot
view
one
at
the
beginning.
So
the
the
plan
with
carrot
v1
on
the
smart
contract
side,
is
the
first
to
do
two
audits.
The
first
one
should
be
starting
very
shortly
and
would
be
done
ahead
of
paris.
The
second
one
probably
would
be
going
on
during
the
paris
week,
but
if
it
was
like
a
limited
amount
of
funds,
I
think
that
would
probably
be
fine
to
utilize
it
I
mean
that
said.
F
The
ui
has
not
been
developed
at
all
around
like
carat
v1,
but
it
does
at
the
smart
contract
level
offer
you
know
the
ability
to
use
multiple
collateral
to
like
plug
in
potentially
different
oracles,
and
you
can
also
weight
the
conditions
like
so
that
you
know
you
can
have
multiple
conditions
and
actually
have
one
condition
weigh
what
the
reward
is
more
than
the
other.
So
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
of
interest
there,
like
that's,
probably
available
but
yeah
like
the
front
end's
not
like
developed
around
that.
A
F
Think
that
makes
most
sense,
because
five
weeks
is
not
that
far
away
and
I'm
sure
there
are
going
to
be
other
considerations
to
like
deploying
like
getting
care
if
you
want
to
actually
work
in
some
kind
of
actual
live
campaign
and
yeah
like
one
of
the
cool
things
about
v1.
Is
this
ability
to
add
different
templates
in
terms
of
like
what
the
rewards
will
be
like
you
could
potentially
have
nfts
etc,
but
the
only
type
of
campaign
that's
going
to
be
audited
like
from
the
beginning,
will
be
an
erc20
version
right.
F
A
Okay,
so
we'll
just
we'll
we'll
we'll
keep
the
the
version
we
used
in
amsterdam
as
like
the
one
in
our
minds
when
we're
coming
up
with
a
potential
idea
for
now
yeah
for
paris.
I
think
that
makes
more
sense
cool
anyway
yeah.
So
if
you
have
any
idea
additional
thoughts
or
ideas
around
that
and
let's,
let's
form
that
and
we
can
either
share
those
yeah-
we
can
propose
those
to
witness
or
we
can
you
know
if
it's
something
for
me,
the
one
big
thing
was.
A
If
we
were
going
to
spend,
let's
say
20
grand
of
like
potential
award
reward
on
this
in
in
amsterdam.
We
were
willing
to
spend
50k,
because
if
we
actually
got
50
followers
of
dx
dow,
like
the
dow,
was
willing
to
spend
that
money.
In
this
scenario,
the
cost,
if
let's
say
if
it
paid
out
full,
would
really
be
a
cost
for
like
getting
people
to
use
and
growing
the
awareness
of
carrot,
and
it's
like
helping
like
this
game
succeed.
But
it's
not
like
getting
dx
style.
A
C
Skype
before
we
move
on,
I
have
an
idea
what,
if
we
created
a
campaign
using
carrot
to
incentivize
people
participating
in
in
the
whitnet
egg
game,
to
popularize
it
and
in
a
way
market
carrot
as
a
product
that
could
help
organizations
with
their
marketing
campaigns.
For
example,
if
witness
did
their,
you
know,
campaign
and
game
on
their
own,
they
would
rely
on
their
own
on
popularizing
it.
But
if
we
say
locked,
five
thousand
dollars
in
carrot
and
told
everyone
that,
if
they
retweet
a
specific
tweet,
say
on
the
witness
twitter
handle.
A
Yeah
so
putting
carrick
out
there
as
a
a
great
platform
for
improving
your
marketing
goals,
no
matter
what
those
goals
are,
I
think
that's
a
great
use
case
for
carrot
for
sure
is
like
twitter.
Reach,
like
the
the
hardest
thing
with
coward,
is
always
coming
up
with
the
goal
like.
If,
if
it's
could
this
tweet
have
a
reach
of
x
and
and
can
that
be
measured
by
the
oracles
of
reality.eth?
A
A
We
we
wanted
to
do
maybe
a
co-event
kind
of
a
happy
hour,
but
maybe
have
some
talks
like
or
some
breakout
areas
at
this
at
this.
At
this
event
or
this
venue
and
we've
been
talking
to
gnosis
chain
team
about
this-
they
liked
the
idea
they
were
already
planning.
Something
had
ideas
for
something
very
similar.
A
A
Ecosystem
could
potentially
get
involved,
and
so
it's
yeah-
this
isn't
wouldn't
necessarily
be
a
dx.
Dow
run
main
like
mainly
run
event.
This
would
be
a
gnosis
chain,
ecosystem
event
and
dx
dao
would
be
a
key
participant.
An
organizer
help
like
co-organizer
of
it.
It's
a
little
bit
like
yeah
augusto's,
framing
of
like
the
dx
hackathon
like
there's
the
lead,
organizer
and
then
there's
like
some
a
few.
A
few
co-organizers,
and
so
dx
dow
hasn't
done
something
like
that.
A
In
the
past,
we've
obviously
sponsored
different
things
in
the
past,
but
we've
never
done
a
we've
had
our
own
events
and
we've
had.
Yes,
we've
sponsored
other
events,
but
this
would
be
a
unique
kind
of
smaller
event
where
sorry
not
smaller
event,
but
and
if
we
dx
dow
would
participate
as
a
co-organizer
in
a
gnosis
ecosystem
event
and
the
yeah
there's
a
venue
that
nathan's
mentioning
that's
like
on
the
water.
A
It's
about
15
minutes
from
the
ecc
event
space
and
the
idea
the
the
day
that
people
we're
looking
at
is
that
the
afternoon
into
evening
of
july
20th,
which
is
that
wednesday
right
in
the
middle
of
the
week,
and
so,
if
yeah
we
could,
we
could
put
up
a
forum
post
about
it
if
there's
any
initial
thoughts
or
feedback
on.
If
people
think
this
is
a
good
or
bad
idea,
we
would
contribute
some
money
towards
the
cost.
It's
obviously
we
wouldn't
be
the
the
lead
payer
of
this
thing.
Yeah.
A
So
we've
been
doing
analysis
and
we
don't
have
all
the
details,
but
like
one
of
the
ways
that
dx
dow
is
getting
more
awareness
and-
and
you
know
actually
you're-
probably
a
good
example
of
it
being
at
these
events
and
participating
either
being
sponsoring
and
participating
in
the
actual
events
like
we
did
at
denver
or
being
having
contributors
at
in
this
in
like
around.
During
these
events
and
speaking
with
people
and
recruiting
people
and
sharing
ideas
about
products
and
in
amsterdam
handing
out
you
know
the
carrot
campaigns
and
things
like
that.
A
A
You
suspend,
and
so
we
were
talking
about,
should
we
have
a
happy
hour
like
that
in
in
in
in
paris,
and
that's
where
this
idea
kind
of
expanded
to.
If
we
did
that
type
of
happy
hour,
could
we
team
up
with
a
couple
other
people
to
to
have
a
place
where
we
could
invite
everyone?
That's
in
paris
that
we
want
to
speak
with
and
connect
with
to
one
place
at
the
same
time?
And
so
we
could
either
do
that
on
our
own
and
you
know,
compete
against
everyone
else.
A
That's
also
doing
that,
or
could
we
team
up
with
one
or
two
other
key
parties
in
the
space
and
and
and
create
this
with
with
those
people?
And
so
I
guess,
if
we
yeah
this
idea
of
this
co-event
would
be
the
the
main
thing
that
dx
dow
would
be
publicly
participating
in
in
paris,
and
it
would
also
be
the
place
that
it
would
almost
be
like
dx
dao
is
happy
hour.
Anyone
that
that
dx,
dao
or
contributors
want
to
connect
with
and
talk
with.
A
B
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
guess
just
like
my
two
sons
would
just
be.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
team
up
with
them.
I
would
just
check
which
day
the
event
is
and
like
if
it's
like
at
the
same
time
as
some
other
like
really
key
events,
just
because
people
are
quite
strategic
with,
like
you
know
like
when
they
place
their
events,
but
no,
it
sounds
like
great
idea.
A
A
Is
actually
at
the
end
of
the
day
on
on
the
wednesday
and
there's
not
much
other
planned
yet
according
to
the
public
schedule
and
those
that
always
gets
loaded
later,
so
this
is
already
on
the
earlier
side.
Getting
this
event
out
there,
but
people
that
either
don't
have
ecc
tickets
would
be
able
to
come
to
this
or
people
that
have
ecc
tickets,
but
by
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
they're
ready
to
go
out
onto
the
river
and
go
to
a
happy
hour
or
something
they
could
also
attend
this.
B
A
B
I
guess,
and
if
you
want
to
do
more
things,
the
one
thing
that
I
really
liked
about
breckenridge
was
like.
It
was
quite
clever
of
harmony,
but
they
arranged
breakfast
and
it's
like
not
that
many
people
do
that.
So
it's
a
really
good
way
to
like
stand
out
from
the
crowd,
because
people
are
like,
oh
whatever,
I'm
not
going
to
an
event.
I
can
just
go
to
breakfast,
but
I
know
I
think
this
one
is
a
great
one.
A
Yeah
what
we
have
like
as
john
says,
what
we
have
learned
is
what
dick
style
doesn't
want
to
do.
Is
things
at
nightclubs
with
really
loud
music,
like
those
events,
are
maybe
fun
for
some
people
but
they're
the
least
effective
for
talking
with
the
people
that
you
want
to
talk
to
and
that
you
can
invite
to
this
to
this
event,
where
you
want
to
talk
to
them.
So
that's
one
thing
we
have
learned,
but
cool.
A
F
Yeah
I
can
give
it
update,
since
augusto
is
not
here.
I
think
the
thing
to
report
from
last
week
is
we
had
a
call
with
open
zeppelin
and
they
you
know
it
seemed
promising.
I
guess
I
don't
want
to
say
too
much,
because
it's
a
recorded
call
I'm
not
sure
what
they
want
to
keep
like
what
they're
comfortable
disclosing,
but
I
would
say
it:
it
seemed
promising
in
terms
of
the
potential
for
something
to
happen
with
open
zeppelin.
F
So
we're
looking
to
try
to
continue
that
conversation,
because
I
think
they
would
make
a
great
partner
for
the
event
I
mean
they.
They
have
a
great
name
brand,
especially
when
it
pertains
to
like
open
source
development
right
and
they're,
also
from
argentina,
so
being
in
south
america.
It.
It
seems
like
a
great
place
to
partner
with
them
and
so
yeah.
That's
the
main
thing.
F
There's
a
proposal
right
now
that
is,
funding
the
down
payment
on
the
event
space,
so
looking
to
do
that
as
soon
as
we
can
so
that
we
can
secure
the
space
which
we
feel
is
like
a
good
space
and
a
good
time.
I
think
it
was
really
the
only
one
that
kind
of
met
our
criteria
that
the
lateral
group
was
able
to
identify.
So
there
is
some
urgency
there.
I
think
we're
just
trying
to
kind
of
balance.
F
So
we
think
like
that
weekend,
right
before
is
probably
the
the
prime
time
to
do
it.
The
downside,
with
those
dates
for
those
who
have
been
paying
attention,
is
eth
global
is
hosting
their
hackathon
at
the
same
at
the
same
time,
and
obviously
they're
like
the
main
hackathon
sponsor
in
the
ethereum
community,
they'd
be
tough
to
compete
with,
but
you
know
with
the
right
partners.
F
I
think,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
I
think
we're
still
could
be
in
a
really
good
spot
and
it
could
be
more
of
a
small
kind
of
bespoke
hackathon
to
complement
the
larger
youth
global
one.
You
know
some
of
us
were
at
the
one
in
amsterdam,
youth
global
they
put
on.
It
was
an
amazing
event
in,
like
that
amazing
space
that
the
ef
had
for
the
co-working
space
for
verb.
F
I'm
gonna
not
pronounce
it
right,
but
that
old
training
space
and
I
think
similarly
they're
gonna
have
an
awesome
space
in
bogota
and
I
think
they're
gonna
even
try
to
be
even
bigger
than
they
were
in
amsterdam,
which
is
already
the
biggest
one
they've
ever
done
with.
I
forget,
like
several
hundreds
of
hackers,
so
I
think
it
might
be
this
opportunity
to
complement
what
they're
doing
with
something
that's
a
little
more
focused
a
little
more
intimate
but
yeah.
It's
not
ideal
to
be
competing
with
them
on
the
time
frame.
F
A
A
Yeah
like
clearly
this,
you
know
the
dx
biz
call
in
the
last
yeah
today
and
in
this
current
time
is,
it
looks
a
little
bit
more
like
a
dx
dow
events
call
part
of
that
is
because
these
ideas
for
these
events
and
where
dx
taos
should
show
up
and-
and
you
know,
related
to
growing
awareness
of
the
exxon
stuff.
You
know
these
discussions
do
happen.
A
You
know
among
the
different
squads
like
it's
also
related
to
dx
voice
and
what
dx
voice
needs
to
do
to
plan
this,
and
then
we
have
a
a
a
newly
formed
squad,
focused
specifically
on
on
bogota,
because
that's
a
like
a
very
yeah.
It
needs
to
be
it's
a
lot
of
organization
that
goes
behind
it,
but
all
of
these
things
basically
need
to
be
out
in
a
public
yeah
in
a
public
forum.
A
I
mean
these
posts,
there
are
posts
about
this
in
the
forum,
but
this
this
call
gives
people
an
opportunity
to
share
ideas
and
thoughts
and
benefits
and
negatives
of
of
all
these
events
and
things
and
and
gauge
whether
or
not
the
community
thinks
yeah.
These
things
are,
you
know,
should
move
ahead
or
should
not
move
ahead,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
just
have
this
public
call
where
these
things
are
discussed,
to
give
people
a
chance
to
show
up
and
and
share
their
their
views.
G
G
Well,
they're
probably
going
to
do
it
so
they're
thinking
like
the
15th
16th
and
then
I
guess,
like
the
plan
for
us,
is
for
us
to
go
and
head
out
on
the
17th
for
our
treat.
So
I
don't
think
that
it
should
be
a
conflict
I've
already
expressed
to
them
when
our
retreat
was
and
that
we
want
to
be
in
attendance
so
more
to
come
soon.
G
On
that
I
mean,
then
I
also
did
want
to
chime
in
about
like
the
hackathon
and,
of
course,
like
I'm
completely
supportive
of
of
the
hackathon,
but
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we,
you
know
are
organized,
have
excellent
marketing
around
this
event.
I
I
attended
the
graph
hack
over
the
weekend
and
it
was
really
well
organized
really
well-funded
event.
Unfortunately,
they
didn't
have.
You
know
high
participation
in
the
hackathon.
G
You
know
they
didn't
have
a
direct
competitor.
This
weekend
they
didn't
have
like
a
global
hackathon
to
compete
with,
but
you
know,
despite
being
organized
and
having
the
funding
for
it,
they
didn't
have
a
great
turnout.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
this
hackathon
in
bogota
that
you
know
we
we
you
know
get
really,
you
know
put
all
of
our
manpower
behind
it,
because
I
don't.
G
I
think
that
competing
with
each
global
is
going
to
be
a
huge
competition
for
us,
and
I
know
that
john
you
mentioned
that
you
know
this
is
kind
of
specific
to
define
governance,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
completely
prepared
and
I
did
speak
with
kartik.
I
did
have
a
chance
to
see
him
at
the
hackathon
and
he
kind
of
discouraged
us
from
doing
it
the
same
weekend
as
them
as
expected.
G
A
Yeah,
so
that's
yeah
for
for
something
that
is
niche
like
the
graph
and
okay.
Maybe
a
dx
down
opens
zeppelin.
Hackathon
is
niche,
but
it
can
be
marketed
as
wider
than
just
yeah.
I
think
the
graph
wants
you
to
build
on
the
graph
stuff.
This
is
more
dow
and
defined
governance
just
put
on
by
a
few
more
narrow
participants.
So,
but
if
we're,
if
we're
only
targeting
200
hackers
or
150
200
hackers
like
that
agree
that
that's
not
like
50
submissions
would
be
great.
A
B
A
Well,
so
the
idea
is,
there
are
no
sponsors,
and
this
is
a
unique
kind,
a
newer
kind
of
hackathon,
where
everything
is
built
for
what
a
argentine
hacker
that
type
of
hackathon
that
that
person
would
want
to
go
to
basically-
and
so
there
are
some
unique
new
ideas.
Yeah
we
can
share
the
we
made
like
a
deck,
that's
kind
of
trying
to
convey
some
of
the
new
ideas
of
the
hackathon
and
that's
what
we
were
sharing
with
some
co-organizers
and
eventually
would
be
shared
with
participants
as
well.
A
A
Have
everyone
be
able
to
present
to
you
know
not
just
the
winners
present,
but
everyone
presents
to
everyone
not
just
to
the
judges,
so
there's
some
unique
things
that
are
ideas
that
are
being
implemented,
that
really
you
can't
do
in
a
giant
hackathon,
especially
what
like
youth
global,
wants
to
do.
The
biggest
hackathon
ever
like
this
is
the
opposite
of
this.
Is
a
small
focused,
curated
one?
That's
really,
I
believe
the
goal
is
to
like
make
it
the
perfect
hackathon
for
what
a
what
a
dev
in
web3
wants.
B
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
mean
that's
a
good
point.
I
think
we've
discussed
having
a
focus
on
dow's
governance
and
defy-
and
you
know
I
think,
open
source
is-
is
sort
of
a
key
value
for
many
in
crypto
and
I
think,
but
we're
we're
sort
of
like
pretty
true
to
that
and
I
think
opens
up
and
is
also
a
great
like
leader
in
the
open
source
space.
B
It's
just
if
you're,
if
you're
attracting
people
to
your
hackathon
instead
of
global,
I
would
just
look
at
exactly
like.
What's
the
value
prop,
what
kind
of
person
are
you
attracting,
and
why
should
they?
Why
should
they
do
this
hackathon
instead
of
these
local,
because
I
guess
they're
connected
with
a
lot
of
like
prestige.
F
Yeah,
I
mean
they
have
the
big
a
big
brand.
They
throw
great
events.
They're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
involvement
and
I
think
that
the
differentiators
would
be
something
more
intimate
with
like
recognizable
like
you
know,
I
think
again,
like
textile
opens
up,
and
I
think
we
can
appeal
to
certain
developers
who
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
hardcore
about
open
source
or
governance
itself.
F
Well,
well,
the
options
so
it's
the
idea
is
to
do
it
around
defcon
and
devcon
is
like
11th
to
the
14th.
I
believe
which
I
think
is
like
a
tuesday
through
friday,
so
really
you're.
If
you
want
to
do
it
around
devcon,
your
only
choices
are
like
the
weekend
before
and
the
weekend
after
right
and,
like
I
said
at
the
beginning,
I
think
that
doing
it
before
is
more
appealing
in
the
sense
that,
like
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
been
to
devcon,
but
it's
it's
not.
F
Yeah
they're
intense
conferences,
right,
like
I
mean,
did
you
ever
do
anything
after
devcon
like
I
think
most
people
are
pretty
exhausted
by
the
end
of
that
fourth
day,
so
you
know
it
could
be
the
weekend
after,
but
I
think
that's
the
reason
not
to
do
it
the
weekend
after
now.
That
said,
if
everybody
was
like
no,
we
should
do
it
the
weekend
after
then
like
we
could
pursue
that.
B
F
Global
sometimes
gets
like
conflated
a
bit
with
ef.
They
are,
I
think
they
have
been
funded
and
they
have
a
very
close
relationship.
They're
also
like
been
around
a
long
time
and,
like
you
know,
have
some
eth
ogs
organizing
it,
but
but
no
it's
technically,
not
like
the
ef
itself.
That
is
running
equivalent,
but
they.
A
True
yeah
and
the
the
question
that
I'm
gonna
next
time
I
see
kartik,
I'm
gonna
ask
him
is,
and
I'm
gonna
ask
people
here
too:
what
if,
in
this
decentralized
world,
why
should
everything
be
decentralized,
except
for
the
hackathons
like?
Why
do
we
want
giant,
centralized
hackathons
rather
than
decentralized
hackathons.
A
A
I'm
going
to
ask
card,
take
that
and
so
and
unless
he
can
give
me
a
good
answer,
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
like
everyone
shows
up
to
bogota.
There
should
be
like
eight
smaller
hackathons
focused
on
different,
interesting
things,
and
you
should
choose,
depending
on
what
you're
interested
in
which
hackathon
to
go
to
like
this
is,
I
believe,
how
the
future
will
be
and
we're
just
at
the
the
front,
end
front
edge
of
it.
Like
setting
an
example.
Almost
that's
that's
what
that's
my
view,
but
well.
F
I
think
that
would
be
one
advent.
Like
one
reason
you
would
pick
a
smaller
hackathon
over
eth
global
is
like
in
amsterdam.
It
was
an
awesome
hackathon,
but
it's
huge
right
like
it's
there's.
You
can't
even
kind
of
track
like
who
the
sponsors
are
like
yeah.
Like
I
don't
know
it's
just
not.
It
didn't
feel
like
a
nice
like
small
intimate
hackathon,
which
maybe
you
would
prefer.
B
I
mean
I'd
just
say:
one
thing
like
it
just
requires
a
lot
to
facilitate
a
successful
like
hackathon,
a
lot
of
resources
and
timing
and
scheduling.
So
I
guess
that's
why
sometimes
you
pick
a
like
a
big
established
brand,
because
you
know
they've
done
it
before
and
they
kind
of
have
all
those
like
systems
in
place.
That's
very
like
professionalized,.
B
But
but
that
being
said,
I
think
maybe
you
have
a
really
interesting
opportunity,
if
you
think
about
like
hacker
houses
or
something
like
that,
because
that
could
be
like
a
unique
moat
that
you
could.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
really
want
to
live
with
like
builders,
so
maybe
there's
something
there.
If
you
create
a
smaller
atmosphere
and
get
people
to
maybe
co-live,
that
could
be
something
that
they
would
then
choose
this
over.
The
other
hackathons.
G
A
Cool,
well
all
really
good
thoughts.
If
you're
interested
in
any
of
the
things
we
talked
about,
yeah
also
check
out
the
the
doing
good
proposal.
We
have
done
some
due
diligence,
but
the
doing
good
investment
proposal
from
dx
ventures.
It's
well
proposed
by
their
team.
It's
a
little
bit.
It
probably
needs
more
discussion.
It's
a
there's.
A
bigger
question
of
like
does
dxdow
want
to
like
dive
close
deeper
into
the
nft
related
world
and
how
dx
dow
could
could
leverage
that
platform
and
how?
A
What's
that,
if
that's
good
for
daos
and
dxtile
in
general,
and
also
yeah
the
the
coolest
thing
about
it
is
there's
a
social
good
element,
and
so,
if
we're
gonna
do
some
nft
stuff
having
the
social
good
element
is
a
is
a
really
good
positive.
But
if
you
have
any
thoughts
about
that
check
that
out,
otherwise
we
can
bring
that
to
the
forum
and
then.