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From YouTube: DXbiz Weekly Gathering [2022-06-13]
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00:04 Welcome and Agenda
03:04 Guests from the .limo team
32:05 NYC DAO focused events. Dose of DeFi Happy Hour too.
34:44 MIDAO, Legal, Payment Update
36:18 stETH Opportunity for DXdao
47:40 Events: ETHCC, HackerSoul Bogota
A
A
Maybe
there's
a
recap,
john
and
myself,
a
little
bit
where
I've
been
in
austin
around
consensus
and
there's
lots
of
events,
and
things
happening
here,
maybe
some
observations
that
we
could
share
there
and
then
next
week
or
yeah
not
next
week,
but
next
week,
yeah
after
this
week
the
following
week,
there's
a
gathering
of
nftnyc
in
new
york,
which
is
the
which
will
be
interesting.
I
don't
know
how
much
of
that
audience
is
having
a
great
time
with
with
their
nfts
these
days.
A
And
so
we
can
yeah
whether
or
not
we
make
decisions
on
it.
It's
good
to
for
everyone
to
be
aware
of
it
and
and
get
the
community
thinking
about
it.
And
then
we
can
maybe
give
an
update
around
dx
events.
We
have
ecc
in
paris
or
ethereum
week
in
paris
and
then
we're
also
continuing
discussions
around
this
hacker
soul.
Dx
doubts,
hacker
soul,
hackathon,
bait
idea
based
in
bogota
around
def
con
and
then,
if
we
have
time
to
adventures,
some
dx
venture
stuff
continue
conversations.
A
So
that's
the
summary.
I
guess
you
have
to
kick
things
off.
We
have
serial
saber
and
also
sid
mead
400.
I
believe
from
the
eat
that
limo
team
john
and
myself,
we
each
individually
got
a
chance
to
catch
up
with
them
in
austin,
and
you
know
talk
about
a
bunch
of
the
stuff.
That's
been
happening
in
the
space.
A
A
Was
the
default
yeah
piece
of
middleware
that
that
I
guess
ens
had
been
using
and
promoting
from
the
start,
but
there's
a
lot
of
problems
with
it.link.
Obviously,
it's
not
working
a
lot
of
times
it
being
quite
controlled
and
centralized
by
a
by
like
a
very
centralized
provider
of
the
in
in
the
space,
and
I
think
the
ethel
dot
limo
team
has
come
along
and
addressed
some
of
those
issues
and
has
goals
to
address
all
those
issues
and
one
of
the
yeah.
The
three
things
I
listed
on
here
expanded
use.
A
However
yeah
well
nathan.
You
could
probably
get
some
background
on
this,
but
getting
getting
getting
our
products
using
dot,
limo
and
making
sure
that
all
the
the
links
to
our
products
around
the
city,
the
ecosystem
and,
in
you
know,
things
that
are
searched
on
google.
Obviously
getting
those
corrected
or
refined
to
to
the
links
that
dxdial
community
wants
is
an
important
piece
of
that.
That's
a
lot
of
good
manual
work
that
nathan's
been
doing
it
and
swapper
team
and
other
teams,
and
so
repositioning.
That's
really
valuable.
A
B
Yeah
for
sure-
and
it
was
nice
to
meet
you
and
john
in
austin-
that
was
a
lot
of
fun
and
unexpected,
especially
running
into
you
on
the
streets.
I'm
glad
I
had
my
limo
shirt
on
that
was
pretty
funny
so
yeah,
just
I
guess
some
quick
road
map
updates
and
some
things
that
might
be
interesting
to
the
group.
Here.
We
are
pretty
close
to
migrating
over
to
our
v2
environment.
This
is
a
major
release.
B
We've
refactored
a
bunch
of
stuff,
so
this
is
mainly
around
kind
of
us
pivoting
to
building
more
of
a
platform
that
we
can
then
extend
and
build
on
top
of
for
some
of
these
additional
features.
But
right
now
kind
of
the
main
feature
set
that
we're
going
to
be
rolling
out
here
is
going
to
be
the
cc
cc.
B
So
that's
kind
of
cool
for
people
that
don't
necessarily
have
the
websites,
but
they've
got
some
information
plugged
in
there,
so
that
should
be
helpful
to
other
people
and
we're
going
gonna
have
the
ability
here
soon
as
well
to
automate
the
issuance
of
certificates.
So
right
now
it's
kind
of
a
manual
process.
We've
got
a
channel
and
discord.
That's
you
know
specifically
for
requesting
that
and
right
now
it's
a
wild
card
certificate,
so
it
will
cover
basically
any
name.
B
That's
when
we
can
start
building
and
expanding
on
some
of
the
cool
stuff,
primarily
analytics
are
going
to
be
one
of
the
first
things
that
we're
interested
in
providing,
and
this
is
likely
going
to
be.
You
know
some
sort
of
at
least
initially
pretty
basic,
like
user
interface.
Sort
of
thing
that
you
can.
You
know
log
into
and
you'll
have
a
nice
little
dashboard
and
you
can
see
you
know
basically
aggregate
traffic.
B
You
know
referrers
browsers
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
you
know
how
people
are
reaching
the
content
that
sort
of
stuff-
and
it
is
all
anonymized.
So
we
do
not
log
ip
addresses
or
you
know,
and
that's,
including
the
client
ip
or,
if
you
maybe
came
through
a
proxy
or
something
that
was
preserving
the
x,
forwarded
four
header.
We
stripped
that
out
as
well,
so
we
don't
log
any
of
that
stuff
we're
not
interested
in
it.
It's
you
know
more
of
a
liability
than
an
asset.
B
I
think
I
think
to
everybody.
So
this
should
be.
You
know
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
single
single
out
or
identify
a
unique
user,
but
we
can
give
you
kind
of
the
aggregate
information
and
then
kind
of
on
top
of
that
we're
going
to
be
deploying
a
public
dns
over
https
resolver
and
then
probably
just
like
a
traditional
dinos
resolver
as
well,
but
the
main
intention
there
is
to
try
to
get
integrated
with
brave.
B
B
I
think
a
lot
of
you
know
that
eat
that
link's
not
very
reliable
or
cloudflare's
ether
dns.
With
that
regard-
and
you
know
a
few
weeks
ago
or
I
think
two
weeks
ago
there
was
like
an
entire
weekend
where
brave
native
ens
resolution
just
didn't
work.
So
I
I
think
that
they
kind
of
understand
a
need
there
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
to
work
on
that
and
then
opera
as
well.
B
These
features
to
be
available
for
pretty
much
any
d
website
operator.
That's
not
something
that
I
think
exists.
Currently.
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
equivalent
to
that
with
that
link-
and
you
know
google
analytics
or
some
sort
of
embedded,
you
know
script
tracking,
that's
kind
of
really
the
only
way
that
you
can
get
visibility
into
these
d
websites.
And
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
blocking
that
with
ad
blockers
and
stuff
anyway.
B
So
it's
not
necessarily
100
reliable,
whereas
you
know
going
through
our
our
service
there's
essentially
no
way
to
avoid
having
those
metrics
be.
You
know,
collected
again
very
in
a
privacy
manner,
but
I
I
think
it's
it's
nice
from
that
respect,
and
then
you
know
kind
of
further
down
the
road.
This
is,
you
know,
I
think
something
that's
gonna
come
after.
We
at
least
have
a
beta
for
the
analytics
component
rolled
out
would
be
the
ability
to
try
to
manage
basically
how
you
route
content.
B
So
if
you're,
if
any
of
you
guys,
are
familiar
with,
like
blue
green
deployments
or
carry
deployments,
you
know
a
b
testing
for
features.
You
know.
Typically,
that's
done
at
a
load,
balancer
or
service
mesh
level,
and
you
know
that
sort
of
thing
is
not
really
feasible
in
the
peer-to-peer
world,
but
through
our
gateway.
We
want
to
explore.
You
know
letting
you
guys,
basically
like
try.
Try
out.
B
You
know
new
deployments
or
versions
of
your
site
prior
to
actually
doing
the
the
ipfs
deployment
and
then
the
record
update,
and
so
that
way
you
can
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
how
something
would
perform
I've
got.
You
know
a
ton
of
ideas
around
this,
I'm
not
going
to
go
super
deep
into
it,
because
a
lot
of
it
is
just
kind
of
my
own.
You
know
thoughts
on
the
matter,
but
I
think
that
that's
you
know
something.
B
That's
interesting,
I've
you
know
in
my
previous
web,
two
gigs
that's
been
the
backbone
of
a
lot
of
our
deployment
processes.
Just
to
have
you
know
that
that
extra
test
environment
and
things
before
you
actually
have
to
commit
so
yeah,
that's,
I
think,
a
pretty
good
medium
term
overview
of
what
we
want
to
work
on
and
work
with
you
guys
on
as
well
and
thanks
for
the
time
to
talk
and
I'm
happy
to
you
know,
answer
our
talk
about
anything
else
that
any
other
questions
you
might
have.
C
Yeah,
I'm
really
happy
you
agreed
to
join
us.
We
could
kind
of
turn
this
as
a
presentation
from
your
side
and
we
could
do
a
little
q
and
a
I.
I
myself
have
a
question
for
you
guys.
What
is
your
moat,
like
as
sky
mentioned
in
the
beginning
of
the
call
we're
now
transitioning
from
recommending
to
our
users
to
use
instead
of
that
link
the
the
cloudflare's
gateway
to
resolve
the
ipfs
hashes?
C
We
are
directing
them
to
dot
limo
and
we're
even
taking
the
length
to
change
all
of
the
backlinks
to
all
the
websites
referring
users
to
our
dapps
to
use.limo
instead,
but
like
what
is
your
moat
and
like?
How
do
you,
hedge
for
competitors
and
like
what's
the
security
in
the
long
term,
like
in
the
longevity
of
the
limo
as
a
service.
B
Yeah,
those
are
great
questions,
so
you
know
competitor
there's
that
could
emerge
at
any
any
point
in
time.
I
think
that
just
from
personal
experience
here
that
for
us
it's
it's
hard
to
convince
people
to
give
a
service
like
that,
a
try,
especially
without
you
know,
that
kind
of
trust
factor
and
a
lot
of
the
community
building
that
you
know,
sydney's
been
really
good
at
doing
and
interfacing
with
others.
B
So
I
you
know
it
is
definitely
possible
and
I
think
in
some
respects
it's
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
Competition,
you
know,
keeps
you
on
your
toes
and
it
is
good
to
have
you
know
alternatives
to
these
various
services.
Now
with
that
being
said,
obviously
we
want
to
be
kind
of
the
the
premier
ens
gateway
for
this,
and
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
ways
that
we'll
be
able
to
at
least
try
to
stay.
B
On
top
of
that
is
you
know
through
some
of
this
kind
of
vision
and
features,
and
obviously
you
know,
imitation
is
the
the
highest
form
of
flattery.
So
you
know
we'll
just
have
to
see
what
ends
up
coming
out
of
that
and
in
terms
of
like
longevity
yeah,
there
are
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
this.
It's
we're
supporting
more
and
more
projects.
You
know
we
do
see
traffic
volume
kind
of
steadily
increasing,
and
you
know
links
on
twitter
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
grant
funding.
B
Is
you
know
one
of
the
the
ways
that
we're
looking
at
trying
to
sustain
this?
The
ethereum
foundation
has
sponsored
us
and
they're
they're
interested
in
the
success
of
this
as
well
and
they're,
also
interested
in
helping
us
solve
a
a
problem
that
we've
dubbed
the
limo
dilemma,
but
it's
really
just
kind
of
a
man-in-the-middle
type
issue.
B
Where
how
do
you
know
we
provide
end-to-end
content,
integrity,
verification
for
the
content
that
you
request
through
us,
so
that
the
client's
able
to
determine
that
without
having
to
trust
us
that,
yes,
we
did
in
fact
serve.
You
know,
content
that
had
not
been
tampered
with
in
any
way.
That's
kind
of
a
big
ask
and
we've
been
working
with
one
of
our
our
contacts
at
the
ethereum
foundation
to
try
to
he's
on.
B
He
does
some
zero
knowledge
stuff
and
I'm
not
sure
when
we'll
have
a
solution
in
place
for
that,
but
these
are
conversations
that
we
are
having
right
now.
So
I
think
that
that
really,
I
guess
again
in
terms
of
a
mode
it's
you
know
really
about
the
relationships
that
we
have
so
far
and
the
trust
that
we
have
established
and
I
think
that
that
will
continue
to
pay
off,
especially
as
we're
able
to
deliver.
B
You
know
better
quality
and
more
features,
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
the
other
problem
too,
is
that
you
know
this
is
a
difficult
thing
to
monetize,
and
so
I
think
that
the
incentive
for
you
know
competitors
to
kind
of
come
in
and
try
to
do
something.
You
know
their
options
are
somewhat
limited
in
terms
of
you
know
you
can't
if
it's
a
public
good,
you
can't,
you
know
basically
request
tolls
for
people
to
use
it.
Otherwise,
they're
not
gonna,
do
it
at
all.
B
C
B
Yeah
and
that's
where
having
dns
resolution,
capabilities
to
hopefully
sort
of
preempt
or
go
ahead
and
integrate
with
these
other
browsers
that
you
know
may
potentially
have
you
know
either
plan
answer
enos
resolution
or
they
already
support
it.
Now.
I
think
that
it
makes
sense
to
have
you
know
multiple
options
I
mean
similarly
like
vivo
and
firefox.
B
I
don't
use
firefox
very
often,
but
I
was
in
it
the
other
day
and
you
know
you
go
and
I
use
next
dns
personally
for
dns
over
https
and
stuff
on
my
devices
and
I
was
going
through.
I
was
looking
at
the
settings
and
have
a
little
drop
down
and
you
know
you've
got
cloudflare's
dns
or
next
dns,
or
you
know
someone
else
that
you
can
pick
for
the
for
the
provider.
B
But
you
know
currently
it's
just
cloud
fair
dns,
that's
not
even
configurable
within
brave,
so
I
think
that
that
would
go
a
long
way
to
offering
those
integrations
with
them.
And
you
know,
hopefully
that
would
allow
us
to
continue
to
be
relevant
in
the
sense
that
you
know,
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
time
where
gateways
are
not
necessarily
going
to
be
necessary,
and
so
we've
kind
of
already
anticipated
that
and
you
know,
trying
to
position
ourselves
in
a
way
where
we'll
be
able
to
to
kind.
B
A
Yeah
that
that's
all
awesome
as
part
of
this
all
obviously
you've
heard
that
there's
lots
of
different
things
we
can
do
so.
The
the
analytics
is
something
that
would
be
awesome
to
explore
this
idea
of
content
verification
and,
if
that's
like
a
badge
or
what,
however
yeah.
However,
that
can
be
shown
that
when
you
show
up
to
swapper.eth.limo.
A
That's
something
that
people
probably
don't
care
about,
or
don't
even
know
about
today,
but
like
in
the
future,
with
deep
fakes
and
fake
content,
and
everything
like
that
is
going
to
be
required
on
every
page,
whether
that's
through
ens
or,
I
guess
real
web
pages
like
you're,
going
to
want
to
know
that
the
author
is
the
actual
author
or
the
the
producer
of
that
actual
front
end.
The
dao
is
actually
the
producer,
and
so,
if
you
could
figure
that
out,
we
would
love
to
experiment
with
that.
B
A
Cool,
and
maybe
that
yeah-
maybe
that's
you
know
in
hackathons
or
even
bound,
regular
bounties
or
something
we
could
find
people
that
are
interested
in
in
doing
these
things
that
help
connect
and
bring
in
additional
people,
because
I
know
you
guys
are
a
small
team
and
you
know
obviously
grants
and
is
great
for
funding,
but
we
can
hope,
hopefully
bring
in
more
people
to
help
solve
these
things
and
grow.
Everyone.
That's
working
on
this
for
the
space,
because
the
yeah,
the
ef
realizes
this
is
big.
A
So
we
want
to
continue
to
tell
that
story
and
of
why
dx
dow
does
it
and
why
dao
should
do
that,
and
and
we
can
obviously
thai
and
limo
and
our
communities
can
be
aligned
and
we
can
promote
that
all
together
and
then
all
of
these
additional
things
will
eventually
benefit
everyone
that
realizes
this
is
the
decentralized
way
to
do
front
ends
and
then
and
then
we
can
all
grow
this
entire
thing
together.
So
aligning
with
you
guys,
is
and
yeah
that's
aligning
with
like-minded
partners,
and
then
figuring
out.
E
Hey
sid,
mead
and
limo
yeah,
also
echoing
what
sky
and
nathan
said
about
some
of
the
exciting
things
you
guys
are
working
on
and
being
able
to
find
alignment
just
curious.
If
you
could
maybe
comment
or
talk
about
how
you
think,
ens
governance
fits
into
this,
I
know
you've
been
involved
in
that
I've
kind
of
been
on
some
calls
and,
and
we
have
neiman
from
asteroids
that
has
been
involved.
B
B
B
Complete
and
currently
maintained
is
ether's
js
from
rick
moore,
and
you
know
it's
a
great
library,
but
there
you
know
there
are
some
other
ones
out
there
python
and
go
and
some
other
languages
that
they've
been
neglected
and
they're
kind
of
behind,
and
so
they're
not
going
to
support
some
of
these
newer
enhancements
that
are
being
worked
on
actively
and
so
we're
trying
to
stimulate
the
development
side
of
the
ecosystem.
In
partnership
with
the
e
s
dow,
it's
a
little
slow
going.
B
I,
I
would
say
more
trivial
matters,
and
you
know
there
were
some
personnel
shake-ups
within
ens
recently
with
brantley
getting
removed,
and
I
think
that
was
kind
of
a
setback
in
terms
of
progress
and
community
building.
So
it's
it's
really
a
pickle
and
yeah
we're
doing
our
best
to
just
continue
to
be
active
and
push
it
in
a
direction.
B
I
think
that
would
be
beneficial
to
all
of
us,
and
one
of
we
actually
also
met
with
the
founder
of
simple.eth,
which
is
kind
of
like
a
a
wix
style
deployment
front
end,
for
you
know
simple
d
websites
and
everything
like
that,
and
they
actually
pin
content
through
an
api
that
we
provided
for
them.
But
we
were
talking
to
the
founder.
He
was
interested
in
kind
of
another
working
group
that
might
help
us.
B
I
guess
more
closely,
align
some
of
these
interests
and
you
know
that
might
be
of
interest
to
you
guys.
I
know
that
you
do
hold
some
ens
tokens,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
process
is
in
terms
of
you
know,
putting
those
to
work
in
terms
of
votes
and
stuff
like
that.
But
I
I
think
that,
given
how
heavily
your
project
relies
on
e
s
in
in
d
web
in
general,
that
it
would
be
advantageous
for
all
of
us
to
work
on
that.
E
Yeah
and
I
I
think,
you're,
I
agree
with
your
assessment
of
ens
governance,
but
I
I
guess
I
hopefully
view
it
as
not
as
dire,
because
I
do
think
you
guys
have
made
a
lot
of
progress
in
moving
towards
that
vision
of
making
dot
eth
websites
like
a
really
important
part
in
governance.
I
think
it's
just
yeah
as
you're
you're
dealing
with
like
a
new
dow
forming
and
all
of
the
governance
like
problems.
E
That
kind
of
come
with
that,
and
so
I
know
that
there
are,
I
think,
they're
just
having
their
new
elections
for
stewards
this
month
and
neiman
is
running
for
the
ecosystem
subgroup.
I
actually
don't
think
he'll
end
up
winning,
but
I
think
it's
good
that
he's
running
and
I
think
a
lot
of
what
needs
to
happen,
and
I
think
this
is
what
deep
style
can
help
out
is
how
to
just
yeah
build
that
coalition
within
ens
governance.
That
is
supporting
all
of
the
infrastructure.
E
All
of
the
tooling
any
like
grants
that
kind
of
need
to
be
for
eth
websites,
because
it
is
something
that
is
very
valuable
to
dx
dow.
I
think
everyone
in
the
elston
community
also
thinks
this
is
something
very
important
for
the
rest
of
the
the
community
at
large
and
is
like
a
very
part
of
our
like
decentralization
core
mission.
So
definitely
I
want
to
continue
to
see
how
dxdow
can
contribute
to
that,
and
I
am
working
on
maybe
figuring
out
how
we
can
get
those.
E
I
think,
we're
thinking
about
how
we
can
get
those
ens
tokens,
maybe
to
be
more
active
in
governance
in
ens
governance,
because
I
think,
ultimately,
that's
the
long-term
play
to
get
these
things
changed.
Even
though,
like
looking
at
some
of
the
comments
in
the
in
the
chat,
I
think
there
is
still
a
lot
to
be
decided
or
filled
out
in
the
ens
dao
structure,
but
eventually
that
will
get
figured
out
in
ens
is
core
infrastructure,
so
building
into
that
building
a
coalition
for
ens
governance,
I
think
is,
is
also
important.
B
A
A
Cool
well
and
I'm
in
the
agenda
mentioned
article
like
as
yeah
as
dx
dx
dot
is
making
is
leaning
in
towards
using
limo
more
and
more,
and
why
would
like,
maybe
an
article
like
explaining
to
the
yeah
to
the
world?
Why
we're
doing
that
and-
and
maybe
adding
some
of
these
additional
topics
that
we're
discussing,
could
be
an
interesting
article
to
get
out
there,
and
maybe
we
could
collab
on
that
article
or
we
could
yeah,
write
it
and
then
and
then
cross-promote
it
and
stuff.
A
A
Yeah
thanks
what
was
I
saying
I
was
saying
that
next
week
in
new
york,
there's
a
handful
of
dial,
focused
events,
there's
dow
nyc,
which
is
organized
mainly
by
the
tally
and
a
few
other
tele
telly,
not
telly
cash,
but
tally.
Dow
tooling
tally
and
there's
a
bunch
of
speakers.
There's
yeah.
I
think
they're
going
to
have
a
defy
dial
panel,
which
hopefully
we
can
get
on
we're,
not
sponsoring
the
event
but
yeah
some.
A
You
know
some
of
these
allocations
are
going
towards
people
that
are
sponsoring
it,
but
we
we
may
end
up
on
one
of
those
panels
depending
on
what
the
topics
are.
It's
not.
I
don't
think
it's
fully
announced
what
everything
is
so
we'll
that
could
be
an
interesting
event
though,
and
then
there's
also
again
the
the
dao
palace,
sorry,
dow
planet
event
that
happened
around
denver
and
denver
they're
planning
to
do
a
dow
planet.
A
New
york
city
event
that
at
the
end
of
the
week-
and
there
is
a
potential
panel
called
what
was
it
called.
It's
called
something
like
what
you
don't
know
about
daos
and
so
there's
probably
a
lot
of
people
that
don't
don't
know
a
lot
about
the
stuff
that
dx
style
is
doing
so
dx
dow
may
end
up
being
on
that
panel.
A
They
also
asked
if
there
was
interest
in
sponsorship.
For
that
event,
we
did
not
sponsor
it
last
time,
and
I
know
that
we
yeah
we're
in
this
yeah.
I'm
not
sure
we're
actively
looking
to
sponsor
these
events.
So
if
there's
someone
that's
interested
in
really
wants
to
sponsor
it,
please
kind
of
propose
that
otherwise,
I
think
we're
willing
to
like
support
dao
events
that
are
happening
and
participate
in
them.
Other
parties
in
the
space
maybe
are
not
participating
in
all
the
dao
events,
but
yeah.
A
If
we
are,
if
you
are
spreading
the
word
about
dao's,
I
think
dx
dao
is
open
to
adding
value
in
contributing
and
participating
whenever
possible
and
sharing
a
lot
of
the
things
that
dxdao
does,
and
even
if
that
doesn't
include
a
sponsorship,
we're
happy
to
participate
in
support
unless
yeah
other
people
have
different
views
and
then
one
more
last
thing
about
kind
of
aware.
Growing
awareness
of
the
style
there's
a
mydow,
which
is
a
project
that
the
thriller
on
in
discord
and
dick
styles.
Discord
has
been
working
on
for
a
while.
A
A
We
dx
style
has
never
done
what
like
gnosis
dao
has
done
as
like
a
as
a
fund,
that's
something
we
are
also
exploring
for
some
portion
of
the
treasury,
that's
more
active,
but
then
there
are
also
slower
decisions
but
meaningful
decisions
that
dxdao
can
make
with
its
with
its
assets
and
its
and
its
treasury
and
its
risk
management.
And
so
this
I
say
this
idea
fits
into
that
category.
A
So
it's
something
to
explore
and
at
least
have
the
community
aware
of,
and
then,
if
there's
strong
support
you
know
this
could
go
to
proposal
or
signal
proposal
whether
to
explore
further
and
things
like
that
so
keenan.
If
you
wanted
to
touch
on
this,
feel
free
yeah.
I
think.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
excellent.
F
F
Cool
yeah,
so
I
put
the
stud
together.
We've
been
discussing
a
little
bit
and
I've
been
following
this
situation
for
a
little
over
a
week
or
two
now,
but
basically
staked
eat
is
deep,
pegging,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
reasons.
Why,
most
of
all
that
it's
the
rewards
occur
directly
to
stake
d,
so
you
get
more
stick
to
eat
which
is
gonna,
make
it
out
of
whack.
So
I
have
a
big
long
post
kind
of
the
context
of
why
that's
happening.
F
A
Cool
yeah
there
were
already
some
good
questions
and
and
discussion
in
the
forum
and
and
yeah
if,
if
the
current,
if
obviously
there's
always
additional
risk,
but
if,
if
long-term
holding
of
eath
or
state
teeth
is
what
the
style
is
going
to
do
and
it's
an
opportunity
at
what
at
what
discount
and
that
discount
is
moving
around
at
what
discount?
Is
it
worth
doing
this
additional
work
and
with
how
much
eath
to
acquire
that
and
take
on
additional
risk?
A
Obviously
so,
and
someone's
mentioning
john's
mentioning
that
the
current
discount
is
is
trading
at
you
know
6.4
percent
discount
current
or
difference
in
peg
currently,
but
there
are,
it
is
a
confusing
product
and
they've
you've
mentioned
in
the
forum
like
that,
it's
the
the
earnings
don't
get
restaked
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
it
and
there's
obviously
concentration
in
lido
like
in
in
in
that
specific
state.
A
Eth
token
in
this,
in
the
space,
we've
done
some
additional
diversification
to
other
staking
platforms
like
with
that
in
mind.
So
it's
a
yeah
discussion
that
we
should
continue
and
then
you
know
yeah
anyone.
That's
an
expert
in
this
can
continue
to
to
opine
and
and
it
if
yeah,
and
we
can
be
ready,
someone
mentioned
leaving
orders
for
certain
if
just
certain
discounts
are
achieved,
and
that's
that's
an
interesting
idea,
but
coming
up
with
what
those
targeted
discounts
are
and
how
much
to
do
it
with
is
something
that
would
take
some
analysis.
F
A
If
there
are
obviously
lots
of
people
that
could
be
considering
this
as
well,
I
wonder
if
there's
any
dows
that
are
also
considering
it,
maybe
talking
with
karpatky
or
any
experts
that
might
have
different
views
on
this
getting
them
involved,
and
then
also
someone
had
mentioned
like
if,
if
the
disc,
if
it's
really
that
great
of
a
trade
and
the
discount
does
happen,
people
that
have
capital
theoretically
should
pounce
on
it
right.
It's
just
a
matter
of
like
why
aren't
they
doing
it
today?
So
there's
yeah?
A
G
G
A
Yeah
but
like
with
with
the
amount
of
long,
we
know
oh
well
at
least
from
twitter.
We
think
there
are
many
people
out
there
that
are
that
have
money
that
are
long-term
holders
of
e.
That
are
big
believers
and
this
discount
exists
today,
and
the
question
is:
do
you?
Are
they
not
buying
it
because
they
they're
waiting
for
a
bigger
discount
or
like?
Why
are
people
not
taking
advantage
of
this
actual
current
discount?
Today?
That's
that's
a
question
that
should
be
answered
like
right.
D
D
I
don't
know
how
well
people
understood
like
the
timeline
for
the
merch
and
stuff
already,
and
you
know,
understanding
that
the
upgrade
to
actually
withdraw
is
separate
from
the
merge
itself
and
will
take
an
additional
six
to
whatever
months
and
also
like,
if,
if
you
were
long
eath
and
wanted
to
lock
it
up
like,
why
didn't
you
do
that
already
right
like
to
get
the
yield?
So
I
don't
know
I
mean
it
makes
sense
that
it
trades
at
a
discount,
but
but
yeah
I
mean
it
could
move
it.
A
I
people
have
a
concern
that
something
could
happen
with
the
risk
and
the
contracts
of
that
additional
third
party
system,
which
is
another
reason
why
you
might
just
if
you
can
stake
yourself.
So
maybe
that's
where
those
people
are
that
that
that
you
know
are
never
gonna.
There's
people
that
are
never
gonna
sell,
eat.
They're
gonna
stake
it
forever.
They
just
take
it
themselves.
E
Well,
yeah,
that's
actually
the
thing
that
becomes
the
least
attractive
in
this
environment
like
if
you
have
32
eth,
and
you
want
to
stake
it
right
now
like
it
actually
makes
very
little
sense
to
take
that
32
eth
run
your
own
validator,
so
that
you
can
hope
you
will
get
it
in
like
whatever
a
year
year
and
a
half.
It
makes
much
more
sense
to
take
that
32
heath
and
buy
state
teeth
because
then
you'll
get
whatever
40
or
something
like
that,
because
because
of
that,
so
it
is.
E
It
will
like
absorb
the
market
of
people
who
want
to
get
exposure
to
each
yields
and
like
when
things
will
unlock,
but
I
think
kind
of
to
john's
point:
that's
a
trade
that
people
have
been
making
like
for
a
long
time
right.
That's
like
starting
november
2020.
So
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
already
long
eath
there.
So
yeah
I
mean
it's
just
it's
interesting,
there's
clearly
like
a
a
percentage
or
a
a
number
where
it
makes
sense.
E
I
don't
know
what
that
is,
and
I
do
still
have
like
some.
I
don't
know
how
it
makes
how
we
should
approach
it.
The
fact
that
I
do
think
there
is
some
like
centralization
concerns
and
threats
to
ethereum
through
lido
in
general,
and
so
I
don't
know
how,
like
that
consideration
plays
into
the
conversation
either.
A
Yep
cool,
we'll
look
forward
to
the
continued
conversation
in
the
forum
about
that
and
then.
Lastly,
just
a
few
minutes
here,
events
eth
paris,
some
what's
update
like
oh,
looks
like
we
have
a
pl,
a
pretty
a
really
nice
venue,
close
to
ecc
for
the
the
dx
dow
well
potential
plant
in
planning,
dx,
dow
happy
hour,
potentially
or
likely
in
in
tandem
with
gnosis
chain,
maybe
notice
echo
system
in
in
greater
ecosystem
and
then
also
we
are.
A
We
have
been
discussing
with
with
gitpo
app,
which
is
like
this
extension
of
focused
on
on,
basically
all
the
developers
in
the
web,
3
space
and
yeah
all
the
builders
and
and
how
they
are
using
badges,
which
relate
to
your
web3
profile
to
build
your
web
3
profiles
as
developers
in
the
in
the
ethereum
ecosystem
or
and
eventually,
greater
ecosystem,
and
this
this
is.
This
is
a
this-
is
an
infrastructure
or
a
tool
that
could
be
expanded
out
to
basically
every
repo
on
github,
which
then
is
really
interesting.