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B
Hi
everyone
welcome
to
the
dxbiz
weekly
meeting
and
it's
april
19th
monday
at
1500
utc
we
nylon
still
away.
I'm
gonna
run
the
call.
Today
we
have
a
few
different
on
the
agenda.
We
have
a
couple
presentations
from
what
first
is
from
fernando
at
curio
dao.
We
potentially
have
stasis
or
stasis
here
who
is
a
euro
stable
coin
project?
B
I'm
not
sure
if
he's
here
yet,
but
he
might
be
presenting
as
well
and
then
we
also
wanted
to
talk
more
get
deeper
into
like
some
of
the
product
conversations
we
were
having
and
how
we
can
use
those
product
conversations
to
reach
out
and
expand
into
like
you
know,
attract
interesting
attention
in
the
d5
community
and
john
has
some
background.
B
You
know
one
that
we've
been
exploring
this
weekend
and
we
can
see
how
that
goes,
what
we've
learned
from
it,
and
if
we
can
replicate
things
like
that
and
more
and
more,
I
think
that
would
be
an
interesting
conversation
yeah.
So
let's
and
then
maybe
a
little
deeper
on
swapper
as
well.
What
we're,
what
kind
of
a
plan
is
there?
So,
let's
start
fernando
who
is
from
curio
dao,
let's
say
yeah,
I
guess
for
about
10
minutes.
B
You
could
introduce
yourself
and
nathan
had
shared
a
deck
that
I
think
you
guys
had
put
together.
So
people
may
have
some
brief
background,
but
it
would
be
great
to
hear
about
yourself
and
what
your
project
is
and
how
you
found
vx
now
and
potentially,
what
you
know,
as
you
mentioned,
dxdow
has
a
lot
of
things,
we're
working
on
and
including
a
platform
for
you
know,
initial
token
offerings
and
things
and
so
hearing.
You
know
what
you,
what
kind
of
relationship
you
see
with
dxdow
yeah.
That
would
be
interesting.
C
Right
so
yes
welcome
everyone.
This
is
fernando
for
bonin,
co-founder
of
korea
dao,
it's
a
project
that
we
launched
in
2018
with
the
purpose
to
to
break
the
well
between
the
digital
and
the
real
world,
so
we're
tokenizing
rare
assets
and
we're
using
the
centralized
autonomous
association
in
order
to
handle
the
development
of
our
projects.
C
Deep
dow,
which
is
a
research
house
today,
ranked
us
among
the
top
12
projects.
In
terms
of
number
of
members,
we
have
over
200
members
on
board
already.
It's
growing
we're
growing
about
20
on
a
monthly
basis.
So
what
is
it
in?
In
essence,
curry?
Dao?
C
Basically
I
mean
it's
an
ecosystem
that
provides
investors
opportunity
to
invest
in
tokenized,
real
assets,
think
of
it
as
a
launch
pad
for
let's
say
a
tokenized
car
or
a
tokenized
painting
in
the
future,
and
the
idea
here
is
that
over
the
last
couple
of
years
we
were
researching
how
to
tokenize
asics
in
a
compliant
way.
We
became
the
first
player
to
token
as
a
real
ferrari,
and
now,
once
we
have
turned
it
into
tokens
or
users
can
then
benefit
from
from
several
features.
C
First,
they
can
use
their
card
tokens
as
collateral
in
an
ecosystem
similar
to
maker
dow
and
create
a
stable
coin
out
of
this
collateral.
This
gives
them
essentially
liquidity
compared
to
you
know
previously,
you
would
have
to
legally
sell
the
car
in
order
to
get
liquidity
or
maybe
get
a
loan
and
so
on.
Now
you
can
just
do
it
instantaneously.
C
C
C
And,
last
but
not
least,
you
can
now
finally
get
access
into
a
brand
new.
You
know
asset
class,
collectible,
rare
cars
and
classic
cars.
I
mean,
as
we
have
now
this
framework
that
works
in
the
swiss
unleashed
and
regulatory
bodies.
We
can
now
then
expand
it.
You
know
to
any
other
asset
class
that
our
clients
want,
whether
that
is
paintings.
Whiskey,
watches
you
name
it
now.
C
Why
is
this
so
exciting
is
because
for
the
first
time
users
can
now,
you
know,
generate
a
stable
coin,
backed
by
real
assets
or
just
diversify
across
these
assets,
and
what
we
hope
to
achieve
is
that
crypto
investors
who
have
so
far
built
some
wealth
with
their
activities,
can
now
park
some
of
these,
these
funds
into
let's
say
safe
haven
top
ed
collectibles.
C
Now,
if
you
don't
know
anything
about
collectibles,
you
probably
learn
more
with
the
moment
you're
going
to
koreanvest.com,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
something.
What
can
tell
you
about
them
is
that
you're
missing
out,
because
the
price
of
collectibles
has
genuinely
increased
over
the
last
years
and
while
I'm,
this
is
not
a
financial
advice.
C
The
very
wealthy
have
used
it
essentially
to
diversify
their
portfolio,
and
this
was
somehow
reserved
to
them
because
they
had
all
this
network
and
expertise
or
contacts
to
experts
and
so
on,
and
and
that's
where
koryo
dao
is
stepping
in
we're
making
it
very
possible
for
you
to
use
acquired
token,
and
we
do
the
hard
work
we
store.
We
store
the
cars
at
a
freeport,
we
maintain
it
with
experts.
C
We
procure
the
right
con
time
to
to
to
sell
the
asset
and
so
on
and
of
course,
as
you
engage
into
the
curio
dao
you
become
member
with
our
association.
Then
you
will
get
some
additional
perks
that
bridge
that
digital
world
with
the
real
one.
Maybe
we
will
then
announce
events
in
which
you
can
visit.
You
know
the
exposition,
the
gallery
of
the
cars
maybe
other
assets,
and
this
is
how
we
we
we
hope
to
to
increasingly
add
more
assets
and
essentially
bring
blockchain
to
to
to
to
the
real
world.
C
So
far,
we
have
expanded
or
development
with
wealth
managers
that
want
to
push
our
car
tokens
so-called,
and
we
have
about
one
million
dollars
in
sales
for
the
first
car.
We
have
now
on
boarded
several
collectors
and
we
have
grown
the
pipeline
of
real
assets
that
we
can
launch
in
the
launch
pad
to
over
200
of
the
world's
rarest
cars.
C
So
that's
where
we
are
on
our
cto.
It
will
be
also
available
today
to
answer
some
questions
in
in
the
in
the
previously.
It
was
mentioned
that
there
might
be
a
link
share
with
your
team,
so
feel
welcome
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
reach
out
for
any
other
questions.
There's
just
one
slide
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
if
there's
still
some
time.
C
C
Let's
say
you
want
to
buy
or
sell
this
card
tokens
in
the
future,
still
a
work
in
progress.
It's
not
functional
only
with
utility
tokens,
but
our
goal
is
to
push
it
and
bring
it
also
for
car
tokens.
We
will
see
if
we
get
the
license
for
the
dao,
we're
built
on
ethereum,
polka,
dot,
vitas
merchant
and
we're
now
bringing
scale
to
the
decentralized
amn,
and
this
is
what
makes
us
unique.
C
Basically,
when
you
look
at
the
where
we
are
or
how
we
consider
ourselves,
we
see
that
it's
almost
at
the
interception
of
three
main,
let's
say
innovations
one
is,
of
course,
the
whole.
You
know
defy
hub
which
refers
to
defy
lending
and
so
on
another
one.
The
second
one
is
the
so-called
tokenized
platforms.
We're
talking
about
car
tokens.
I
represent
the
right
to
a
profit,
so
we
need
to
you
know
we
work
together
with
regulators
to
make
to
bring
a
compliance
set
up.
C
We
have
now
done
so
and,
of
course,
the
nft
market
in
which
you
have
you
know
it's
a
real
world,
an
nft
representing
a
real
world
asset
and
the
respective
let's
say,
shares
represent
a
fraction
of
this
nft.
So
that's
curio
in
a
nutshell,
where
I
see
collaborations
with
with
your
team,
is,
of
course
you
know,
on
the
one
hand,
on
increasing
the
way
and
improving
the
way
we
we
we
communicate
our
product.
C
I
mean
we
have,
you
know
partnered
with
several
players
and
and
as
the
player
gains
more
mainstream
adoption,
we
hope
to
to
get
more
more
folks
involved
on
this
ecosystem,
but
that
we
need
to
improve
the
way
we
communicate
or
project
right.
So
we
have.
I
have
here
provided
one
you
know
guideline
and
we're
now
working
towards
that,
but
I
mean
we
basically
want
to.
C
We
want
to
want
to
continue,
let's
say,
improving
or
making
it
easier
for
users
to
to
to
understand
the
product,
and
second
I
mean
the
probably
was
footstrap
by
our
co-founders
valerie
and
vladimir
and
basically
now
we
feel
it
will
be
the
right
time
after
three
years
to
actually
use
that
additional
liquidity
to
create
to
create
a
liquidity
pool
on
uni,
swap
that
would
enable
more
members
to
join-
and
you
know,
experience
a
better
trading
experience
as
capabilities
as
right.
C
Now,
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
the
experience
the
liquidity
pool
is
small,
so
therefore
you
know
the
traders
are
hit
by
lack
of
liquidity.
Yes,
thanks.
B
Fernando
this
is
super
interesting
and
just
a
couple
of
initial
questions
I
had
were
the
the
tokenized
assets,
which
are
the
real,
are
the
real
world
asset
tokens
those
are
currently
like,
only
can
be
held
by
whitelisted
addresses.
Is
that
correct?
B
C
Right
so
there
is
a
public.
There
is
a
public
distribution
in
the
form
of
an
aircraft
that
we
do
on
a
monthly
basis
to
folks
who
contribute
to
the
liquidity
pool
and
therefore
get
rewarded
with
about
50
000
of
these
tokens
on
a
monthly
basis.
C
We
have
reserved
an
allocation
of
within
the
token
economics
for
private
investors,
let's
say
institutional
investors,
and
the
idea
is
that
there
may
be
a
sell
after
institutional
investors
on
board
and
and
therefore
we
decide
together
with
them
whether
that
should
happen.
Yes,.
B
Cool
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
some
in
the
chat
people
are
mentioning
some
a
couple
examples
of
some.
You
know,
usually
real
world
assets
that
are
being
tokenized
that
are
being
put
into
the
d5
ecosystem
historically
have
been
mainly,
I
think,
real
estate
versions
of
tokens.
So
I'm
not
aware
of
many
that
are
other
like
collectible
and
and
rare
assets
like,
like
you
guys,
are
doing
it's
a
you
know
when
you
lead
with
like
tokenized
ferrari.
B
It
feels
in
general
initial
impression,
like
2017
and
and
people
get
definitely
turned
off
by
that,
but
I
think
the
reason,
maybe
why
you
start
with
cars
is
because
it
is
it's
an
ease
like
it
makes
sense
and
it's
easy.
So
certain
people
are
going
to
want
to
hold
a
share
of
that
type
of
collectible
car.
I
guess,
but.
C
Yes,
so
I
have
a
two
examples
for
for
the
audience
who's
watching
us
one
is
here
an
example
of
the
oracle
from
data
from
chain
link.
Basically,
one
has
to
recall
that
a
ferrari
f2
of
tdf
is
not
just
a
normal
ferrari,
but
it's
a
limited
edition
very
hard
to
get.
It
was
sold
by
ferrari
for
500,
but
brought
to
an
action
for
1.5
million
dollars.
Eight
months
after
it
was
initially
sold.
So
there's
this
demand
factor
this
collectible
factor.
C
So
so
what
you
see
here
is
the
ferrari
paired
to
a
usd
and
basically
captures
the
average
price
of
different
apis
globally
and,
as
we
distribute
our
car
token,
users
can
flip
it
in
the
matter
of
main
moments
within
the
stable
coin
model.
C
This
is
the
the
first
component,
and
the
second
component
that
I
feel
is
quite
relevant
is
the
mainstream
factor.
I
I
mean
I
I'm
I'm
investing.
I
I've
invested
in
crypto
since
2013,
and
my
our
city
of
limerick
is
very
tech,
savvy
and
so
on,
but
the
reality
is
that
the
the
the
whole
ecosystem
would
would
benefit
from
an
easier
setup
or
easy
to
understand,
set
that
and
cars
is
that
one
kind
of
niche
that
everyone
is
somewhat
familiar
with
they
at
least
people
know
a
car
has
four
wheels.
C
It
has
a
price,
and
now
you
can
invest
on
it,
of
course,
and
and
this
is
what
what
surprised
me
the
most
when
we
first
tokenized
a
car,
the
the
idea,
the
project
of
feature
on
bloomberg
on
nasdaq,
got
feature
on.
Forbes
people
were
just
really
positively
impressed
now.
If
we
would
have
tokenized
a
house
in
estonia
at
a
corner
of
the
street,
nobody
really
cares
because
it
doesn't
have
that
attractiveness.
Of
course,
ideas.
C
Innovation
is
innovative,
but
the
the
mainstream
factor
or
the
media
factor
that
this
got
was
amazing,
and
this
was
all
organic.
I
mean
the
product
was
fully
bootstrapped
by
by
us,
basically
until
now,
so
as
we
now
have
over
200
of
the
rarest
cars
and
you're
looking
at
these
cars,
they
don't
even
look
normal,
their
their
their
doors,
open
up
the
up
upwards
and
so
on,
they're,
very
fast,
and
so
on.
You
realize
that
this
this
probably
has
the
capability
to
get
a
lot
of
attention.
A
C
Right
so
we're
very
fortunate
to
be
located
at
one
of
the
leading
jurisdictions
leading
countries
in
the
topic
of
crypto,
I'm
referring
here
to
switzerland
and
liechtenstein,
working
together
and
in
the
last
three
years,
what
we
worked
with
regulators
was
a
way
to
split
the
ownership
of
one
asset
from
the
economic
benefit
of
the
asset.
C
So
what
this
means
is
that
you,
let's
say
you
own
ten
percent
of
the
car
tokens
from
that
particular
car
offering.
Then
you
get
to
split
ten
percent
of
the
proceeds
from
selling
that
car.
So
this
is
how
we
managed
to
solve
the
ownership
problem
that
that
enable
us
to
scale
the
pros
the
process.
To
many
hundreds
of
cars
without
having
to
deal
with
owners
who
don't
want
to
sell
their
car
token,
because
we
found
a
great
buyer
for
the
car,
and
things
like
that.
C
So
in
the
background,
what
takes
place
is
that
there
are
rules
that
are
well
defined
from
the
very
beginning
and
people
know
when
a
car
will
be
available
for
sale
or
if
it's
available
for
sale
and
provided
that
it
it
gets
purchased
for
a
profit.
Then
the
token
investors
split
that
reward
in
the
form
of
a
capital
gain.
C
Exactly
so,
these
cards
are
you
you
can
think
of
these
cards
as
sort
of
a
museum,
great
and
basically
these
cars-
I
mean
they
can
be
driven,
but
of
course
they
are
maintained
in
this
kind
of
warehouse.
So
when
we
launched
the
project
we
were
featured
by
techcrunch
and
we
invited
them
to
one
of
the
warehouses.
C
Here
you
get
to
see,
you
know
basically
museum
grade
cars,
and
these
are
collectibles
exactly
classic
and
supercars
limited
edition,
one
out
of
100
and
so
on,
and
sometimes
the
price
goes
for
a
single
car
up
to
say
80
million
dollars.
So
this
is
almost
like
a
piece
of
art.
Put
it
this
way
and
and
this
spaces
is
what
we
could
in
the
future
open
to.
You
know
dao
members
to
visit,
attend
and
also
to
partners.
Let's
say
we
invite
you
know
an
exchange,
huawei
or
one
of
these
big
ones.
C
B
Great
well
fernando
thanks
for
all
this
information,
and
I
hope
everyone
enjoyed
this.
We
should
follow
up,
maybe
with
next
steps.
I
I
I
I
you
mentioned
potentially
selling
some
tokens
or
doing
a
private
sale
with
some
investors
and
things,
but
maybe
potentially
doing
more
of
a
public
token
offering
which
could
be
a
potential
possibility
in
the
future,
with
our
mesa
product,
which
is
kind
of
like
an
old
token
auction
product,
and
then
we
also
swapper
is
an
amm.
B
So
currently
swapper
doesn't
have
white
listing
technology,
but
if
you
need
white
listed
technology,
that's
a
feature
potentially
swapper,
you
know
it's
it's.
The
uniswap
type
exchange
that
has
governance-
and
I
guess,
white
listing
for
like
a
security
token,
could
be
something
that
we
add
in
the
future.
C
C
What
we
will
be
doing
is
placing
the
car
token
that
we
in
in
the
ido
or
in
the
token
sale
under
road,
and
we
will
be
placing
it
at
a
vault
on
the
protocol
and
then
the
bulb,
would
then
grab
this
token
and
create
a
freely
traded,
grappling
car,
token
wt
city,
and
this
would
enable
you
know
the
rap
car
token
to
participate
in
any
hop
any
amm
or
or
so
that
is
out
there.
C
So
whether
it
is
the
car
token
that
we
launched
or
just
we
reserve
an
allocation
for
grab
car
tokens.
That's
something
for
us
to
to
discuss
to
get
afterwards
in
the
second
stage
and
I'm
sure
we
can
work
it
out.
B
Cool,
so
any
any
liquidity
pools
that
you
see
around
those
individual
wrap
tokens
or,
like
maybe
baskets,
of
those
tokens.
We
have
a
farming,
we
have.
We
have
a
farming
system,
so
you
could
provide
pool,
rewards
for
incentivizing
pools
right.
Also,
you
have
the
ability,
through
dx,
dow
and
and
governance
of
those
pools,
to
adjust
the
fees.
You
know
how
like
unit
swap,
is
just
0.3
percent.
B
But
if
you
these
security
tokens,
if
you
say
wanted
higher
fees
like
one
percent
or
three
percent
or
maybe,
if
you
wanted
zero
percent,
you
you
have
the
ability
to
through
governance,
change
the
fees
on
the
polls
and
that
could
be
useful
for
some
of
these,
like
unique,
smaller,
one-off,
like
card
token
pulls.
I
guess.
C
Right
right,
so
I
think
this
is
something
to
to
discuss
with
the
team
and
understand
to
what
extent
your
team
can
also
benefit
from
you
know
the
exposure
of
these
assets.
What
is
interesting
is
that
our
community
is
now
even
asking
for
a
tesla
and
while
one
may
not
genuinely
think
right
ahead,
whether
a
tesla
is
collectible
or
not,
it
is
what
the
community
wants
and
we
will
get
a
tesla
right.
C
B
B
Also
also,
your
system
could
be
interesting
to
capture
part
of
the
nft
crowd,
there's
a
crypto
motor
motors
project,
which
is
really
expensive,
digital
cars,
and
so
you
could
use
your
system
for
digital
cars.
In
addition
to
real
world
cars.
C
B
Great
well
thanks
fernando
appreciate
it
and
we'll
follow
up
in
key
base.
I
think
thank
you
so
much
guys.
Thank
you
for
watching
nathan
is.
Is
this
stasis.
D
B
Yeah
gregory
is
here
greg:
okay,
gregory.
B
I
don't
see
him
if
you're
here.
Would
you
would
you
like
to
give
some
background
about
yourself
and
then
also
your
project.
E
F
B
Speed
yeah,
so
the
idea
with
stasis
which
nathan
provided
some
background,
but
stasis,
is
building
a
euro
stable
asset
which
is
one
of
the
more
popular
euro
ones.
And
I
know
a
bunch
of
people
in
the
forum
have
feedback
about
whether
a
euro,
stable
asset
makes
sense
in
this
low
or
negative
interest
rate
environment.
That's
a
debate
that
can
be
had,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know.
Dx
dao
is
a
global
organization.
B
If
there
are
reasons
I
mean
there
could
be
reasons
for
it
to
hold
non-us
dollar
stable
assets
which
could
be
swiss
francs,
euro,
yen
or
some
other
currencies
eventually
or
currently
it's
an
interesting
idea.
If,
if
there
is
one
that
makes
sense
and-
and
I
think
this
euro
eurostasis-
maybe
it's
s
euro
or
euro
s
is
a
is
an
interesting
project.
But
if
he's
not
here,
I
think
we'll
have
to.
F
Oh
no,
he
he
did.
He
just
confirmed
to
me
on
twitter
that
he
just
had
the
wrong
link.
I
just
forwarded
him
to
the
right
place.
He
shall
join
us
in
a
minute
thanks.
Maybe
that's
him.
B
G
B
Yes,
hi
hi:
how
are
you
this
is
the
dx
dow
business
development
call
weekly
call
and
we
we're
we
have
nathan,
has
shared
some
information
about
your
project
in
our
forums
and
our
threads
and
our
chat
channels,
and
so
it's
great
to
have
you
here
and
bx
dow
in
general,
has
a
has
a
plan
to
diversify
into
non-like
non-eth
assets
so
other
you
know
stable
world
stable
currency
assets
and
mainly
we've
been
looking
at
us
dollar
assets
right,
and
so
it's
interesting
for
your
project
to
come
along
and-
and
you
know,
vxtown
is
a
global
organization.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
people
in
europe
and
so
understanding
you
know
if,
in
like
the
next
10
minutes,
you
could
give
some
background
on
yourself
and
your
project.
B
G
So
just
a
bit
of
perspective,
my
partners
and
I
we
started
investing
in
trading
crypto
seven
years
ago
we
built
the
world's
first
bitcoin
fund
and
our
motto
has
been
in
institutionalization
of
the
space
for
years.
So
I
was
a
big
believer
of
institutional
capital.
G
Participation
in
digital
assets,
since
2013,
14,
15
and
euro
stable
coin
saw
life
as
a
product
in
in
the
summer
of
2018,
right
after
the
first
kind
of
major
retail
bubble
in
the
cryptocurrency
space,
and
I
think
we
are
the
biggest
non-dollar
digital
assets
right
now.
We
have
quite
a
healthy
roadmap
of
future
developments.
G
We've
got
our
own
non-custodial
wallet,
which
is
very
convenient
to
access
euros.
We
have
acquiring
apis,
so
one
can
even
process
car
transactions
into
u.s.
We
have
an
automated
on
and
off
ramp,
both
through
apis
and
through
the
mobile
apps
web
apps,
and
our
total
emission
is
around
50
million.
G
When,
when
I
started
this
thing,
I
thought
we
would
reach
1
billion
in
the
year
in
the
first
year
of
operation,
and
I
was
right
about
the
stable
coin
market
in
general,
which
is
around
40
billion,
now
give
or
take,
but
it's
very
skewed,
as
you
know,
in
the
dollar
market
share,
for
I
think,
for
the
reasons
that
all
crypto
assets
are
mainly
priced
in
dollars,
traded
in
dollars
and
the
world
still
is
very
much
glued
to
the
dollar,
and
this
is
another
mission
I
I
see
for
for
myself
personally,
for
our
project
is
to
give
the
world
an
alternative,
because
I'm
a
big
believer
of
an
alternative.
G
I
was
a
hedge
fund
manager
for
more
than
15
years
I
traded
derivatives
and
equities
and
options
and
futures
and
all
that
stuff.
In
a
global
macro
strategy
and
after
the
global
financial
crisis
the
year
2008
2009,
I
just
capitulated
with
the
belief
that
capitalism
and
america
is
the
the
strongest
formation
on
on
the
planet,
and
I
started
searching
for
an
alternative.
I
started
thinking
what
could
be
an
exposure
to
hedge
against
against
the
excessive
monetary
policy.
U.S
is
advocating
now
last
year
that
fear.
G
You
know
that
biggest
kind
of
trigger
came
into
effect
when
u.s
started
spending,
trillions
and
trillions
of
dollars
now
accumulated
almost
4
trillion
of
budget
deficit
rolling
12
months,
which
is
astonishing
and
incredible
together,
and
I
want
to
continue
to
deliver
on
this
mission
to
diversify
people
and
traders
and
protect
capital
of
users
who
want
some
dollar
alternative,
and
this
is
this
is
why
I'm
building
u.s
it's
a
product.
It's
not
really
a
business.
G
As
you
know,
the
rates
in
euro
are
negative,
so
we
are
running
a
money
market
portfolio
of
fixed
income
securities
backing
our
tokens.
We
were
never
under
collectorized,
it's
always
one
to
one
and
another
thing
about
euros.
We
have
zero
euros
as
project
ourselves,
because
I
was
involved
in
several
regulatory
task
forces
across
europe.
G
For
example,
I
was
a
member
of
the
governmental
task
force
in
malta,
which
created
the
virtual
finance
financial
assets
act
and
now
becoming
kinda
a
typical
regulation,
that's
kicking
for
us
across
other
european
member
states,
but
going
forward.
I
see
something
like
e
money,
2.0
regulation
across
europe,
where
they'll
be
a
very
strict
monitoring
of
the
conflict
of
interest
and
from
day
one.
I
totally
exempted
our
company,
our
employees
of
trading
u.s
asset
on
behalf
of
the
company,
so
we
have
zero
market
making
activity
on
the
markets.
G
Everything
you
see
is
organic
and
user
driven.
Maybe
that
was
another
kind
of
reason
why
the
token
hasn't
increased
faster
in
in
in
the
mountain
and
circulation
that
we
never.
G
You
know,
made
order
books
for
across
exchanges
or
we
never
participated
in
the
trading
on
the
secondary
markets.
It's
all
kind
of
user,
driven
as
it
has
to
be.
You
know
like
if,
if
you
were
to
imagine
a
perfect
asset,
the
demands
and
supply
has
to
balance
each
other,
so
our
job
is
to
provide
apis
and
on
and
off
ramps
predominantly
for
institutions.
We
also
facing
a
retail
clients,
although
I
anticipate
going
forward
we'll,
add
some
additional
fees
to
transact
with
them,
because,
as
you
know,
in
ethereum
the
fees
are
quite
high.
G
Imagine
some
retail
person
buying
thousand
euros
from
us.
He
sends
us.
First
of
all,
we
have
to
onboard
him
right.
We
do
all
kyc
ml
checks.
We
are
fully
needed
to
compliant,
so
that's
already
a
cost.
Then
he
sends
us
a
1
000
euro
right.
We
send
him
one
thousand
euros
tokens
and
pay
like
thirty
dollars
or
euros
for
a
transaction
fee
on
top,
so
obviously
that's
a
loss
making
transaction
for
us
we're
not
making
any
profit
out
of
it,
but
we
continue
to
execute
on
it.
G
We
continue
to
service
customers
cause
again.
Our
mission
is
to
give
markets
a
dollar
alternative
asset.
As
for
the
road
map
going
forward,
I
think
we
will
be
launching
on
faster
blockchain.
I
cannot
name
the
blockchain
yet,
but
they
contributed
to
our
equity
capital
and
we
are
rolling
out
soon
on
a
faster
blockchain
with
a
lower
fees
and
that's
also
this
access.
G
This
asset
will
be
available
through
apis
and
another
thing
is
I'm
considering
adding
a
virtual
cards
visa
mastercard
issues
in
the
stasis
wallet,
so
users
who
hold
euros
as
a
salary
payment,
for
example,
and
we've
got
several
clients
who
sell,
send
salary
in
euro
to
their
employees
crypto
related
projects.
Of
course,
they
want
an
easy
way
to
spend
them
on
this
heroes
and,
historically
they've
been
cashing
them
out
into
say.
New
banks
like
monzo
revolut,.
B
And
gregory
just
real
quick
sorry
to
interrupt.
But
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
the
swap
the
the
unit
swap
pool?
I
think
that
exists,
and
potentially
you
know,
swapper
is
a
dx
dao's
amm
that
we've
built
and
it
has
farming
as
well
so
reward
pools.
What's
your
strategy
around
and
it
has,
you
can
control
the
govern
the
fee
of
the
pool.
B
So
if
you
want
a
very
low
or
a
higher
fee,
is
that
something
that
would
be
interesting
for
a
euro
s
pool,
especially
if
maybe
dx
dao
held
some
euro
s
and
put
in
what?
What's
the
other
side
of
the
pool
like
what
are
the
two
puts
a
pair
and
then
and
then,
what's
your
like
incentive
strategy
to
incentivize
amm
pools.
G
Again,
our
strategy
is
to
provide
the
most
transparent,
non-dollar
asset.
That's
our
biggest
value
proposition,
non-transparent,
fully
transparent,
zero
conflict
of
interest,
digital
alternative
to
dollar.
We
have
never
made
any
ico,
we
don't
have
any
kind
of
project.
Token,
that's
kind
of
traded
down.
H
I
think
his
question
is
like:
how
can
we
like
how
could
it
help
us,
because
we
have
our
own
uni-swap
fork
and
so
like?
What
could
we
do
to
like
drive
that
liquidity
there,
or
is
it
an
opportunity
for
like
what's
the
opportunity
for
geek
staff.
G
Yeah,
I
think,
if
you
offer
some
like,
like
look
at
curve,
look
at
dfx
look
at
balancer
once
these
guys
added
some
incentives
to
eures
pools.
They
immediately
got
liquidity
there.
So
there
is
a
basically
a
market
demand
for
euro
yield,
as
you
might
imagine
right,
because
the
euro
yield
is
negative,
so
we've
got
multiple
institutional
clients,
high
net
worth
individual
clients
who
would
like
to
deposit
euro
and
generate
some
yield.
G
So
if
you
add
some
incentive
on
top
of
the
us
liquidity
without
impermanent
loss
risk,
I
assume
you
will
have
like
definitely
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
thousands
of
euro
s
hunting
hunting
your
your
protocol,
your
your
platform,
look
at
curve,
they
added
the
euros
pool
and
even
after
the
synthetics
incentives
discontinued,
the
pool
has,
I
think,
60
million
of
assets.
G
So
quite
quite
I
think
interesting
value
proposition
for
people
who
hold
some
euros.
B
And
want
to
allocate
yeah
so
you're
you
like
having
like
a
bunch
of
different
pools
across
different
different
products
and
and
in
those
in
those
cases,
the
different
systems
are
each
creating
their
own
incentive,
rather
than
focus
on
like
one
major
pool
or
something
yeah.
G
Exactly
our
job
is
to
expand
the
ecosystem.
My
personal
mission
is
to
increase
fungibility
of
the
restable
coins,
so
I
wanted
to
be
present
into
major
d5
protocols
and
major
exchanges.
G
I
never
paid
for
any
listings,
because
I
don't
have
a
budget
for
that,
but
I
always
communicate
clearly
what
our
goals
are.
What's
the
strategies
and
when
I
find
like-minded
individuals,
entrepreneurs
projects
we
do
collaborations.
On
top
of
that,
we
have
a
community
which
he,
which
totals
around
70
000
people
from
all
over
the
world.
G
We
have
like
africa,
we
have
asia,
we
have
europe
and,
of
course,
collaboration
with
stages
brings
you
some
traffic,
because
we
spread
the
word
about
this
pools
or
these
incentives,
or
this
particular
trading
or
investing
opportunity
that
arises
with
the
u.s.
B
B
Yeah,
I
think
so
I
think
dx
down
needs
to
figure
out
if
holding
a
euro
stable
asset
makes
sense,
and
if
so,
this
euro
s
seems
like
a
good
one
and
that
could
lead
to
a
pull
on
swapper
and
then
eventually
a
potential
incentive
to
grow.
That
pool
as
part
of
a
diversification
strategy
and
and
attracting
yeah
attracting
interest
to
that
pool.
G
Do
you
use
any
layer,
two
scaling
solution
or
is
just
an
ethereum,
so
so.
B
Dx
tao
is,
is
thinking
continuously
and
is,
is
is
expanding
into
a
multi-chain
world
like
we
have
a
bunch
of
our
products
on
x-dive
as
a
as
a
side
chain
right
now
and
arbitrarum
is
a
true
layer.
Two,
that
is
our
core
focus
for
having
our
products
and
so
likely
swapper
would
be
on
arbitrarum
as
a
layer.
Two
is
that.
Is
that
a
you
is
that
an
l2
that
you
guys
are
focused
on.
G
We
haven't
lo,
I
mean
I
know
there
were
several
attempts
or
exercises
to
experiment
with
the
u.s
and
we
had
requests
from
some
layer,
two
solutions
to
upgrade
the
smart
contract
to
remove
kind
of
the
commission,
second
transaction,
that
we
had
previously.
So
we
did
that
and
I
think
matic
was
researching
an
opportunity
to
add
the
rewards
to
some
us
players
inside
the
medic
trading
counterparts.
But
that's
but
nothing
has
been
fixed
finalized.
G
Yet
from
our
side,
we
always
happy
to
to
talk
to
discuss,
to
provide
transparency
about
what
we
do,
help
with
on
and
off
ramp
if
necessary
and
great
yeah
like
spread
the
word
about
it
all.
B
Right,
well,
thanks
greg
for
that
presentation,
we'll
talk
internally,
you
can
join
our
key
base
in
our
forum
and
follow
the
discussions
and
join,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
move
to
the
next
topic
now.
B
Yeah,
so
the
next
topic
in
general
is
getting
now
that
dxdo's
products
are
becoming
live
and
more
usable
and
getting
more
capital.
I
think
there's
more
opportunities
like
what
happened
this
weekend
with.
I
don't
know
if
john,
if
you
want
to
give
like
a
a
brief
overview
or
just
an
exa,
the
example
of
how
you
know
dx
dow
can
kind
of
inject
its
products
into
like
current
event,
defy
ecosystem
projects
and
products
that
are
coming
out.
B
We've
had
you
know
a
few
scenarios
of
new
tokens
that
launched
on
xdi
and
making
sure
we
have
a
swapper
pool
and
spreading
that
around
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
we
can
probably
do
more
of
that,
especially
once
we
have
farming
live,
we
can,
we
can
tie
in.
You
know
dx
dallas
capital,
with
incentives
from
the
projects
and
things.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
like
give
any
background.
E
Then
it
was
like
poloniex
right,
like
I
think,
finance
became
really
successful
through
their
listings
and
then
you've
seen
certain
like
market
leaders
like
coinbase
kind
of
have
to
play
the
game
a
little
bit
to
like
fend
off
the
competition
to
the
new
listings,
and
I-
and
I
think
unit
swap
is-
is
probably
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
why
uniswap
was
successful
is
the
ease
of
listing
essentially
right.
Anybody
can
do
it.
Tokens
listed.
You
look
at
units
walk
today.
What's
the
most
traded
token,
it's
one
that
launched
like
a
few
weeks
ago
right.
E
So
I
think,
like
one
of
our
focuses
from
a
business
development
perspective
when
it
comes
to
swapper
in
particular,
is
to
like
you
know,
play
in
new
listings
and
to
focus
on
on
new
listings
and
new
new
tokens
and
think
about
what
can
be
done
there
now,
if
you
take
a
step
back
like
mesa,
launching,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
awesome,
because
that
puts
dx
down
in
this
capital
formation
process
and
like
hopefully,
that
flows
into
new
listings
on
swapper,
but
yeah
anyways.
The
and
farming
also
will
help
you
and
so
anyways.
E
I
was
like
checking
out
this
project
called
cryptex.
It's
got
some.
You
know
well-known,
like
people
involved
like
preston,
ben
lund,
from
the
prismatic
e2
client
team
is
one
of
the
founders
and
they're
doing
some
farming
now
like
just
to
describe
the
project.
Briefly,
it's
a
maker-like
system
where
you
block
up
either
eath
or
die
collateral.
E
A
synthetic
asset
and
the
one
they
are
starting
with
is
called
t-cap,
that's
tracking
or
supposed
to
be
tracking
the
total
crypto
market
cap
and
they
use
chain
link
oracles
to
kind
of
feed
into
their
system.
I
think
getting
from,
like
coin
get
concord
market
capital
like
so
it's
cryptex.
E
Let
me
type
in
here:
cryptics.finance
is
their
site,
and
so
they
are
doing
farming
right
now
to
issue
their
governance.
Tokens
fair
launch-
and
I
noticed
that
the
ctx
just
hasn't
been
hasn't
actually
traded
yet,
even
though
it's
being
farmed-
and
so
I
just
thought-
I'd
mess
around
and
I
created
a
pool
on
swapper
for
it
ctx
and
the
synthetic
acid
tcap.
So
you
can
see
that
is
on
on
swapper
now,
like
it's
a
little
expensive
to
create
a
pool
on
mainnet.
E
So
I
don't
know
I
mean
something
that
we
can
maybe
think
about
like
how
could
the
dow
incentivize
new
pool
creation
but
yeah?
I
don't
know
it's
it's
just
an
interesting.
I
think
biz
dev
exercise
I'm
in
their
their
discord
and
if
you
go
to
ctx
talk
in
their
discord,
they're
kind
of
like
what
swapper
like.
Why
are
we
using
what
you
created
on
swapper
and
like
I
need
to
get
back
and
actually
answer
those
like
kind
of
give
the
pitch
on
why
swapper
is
a
good
product
but
but
yeah?
E
I
think
it'll
be
interesting
to
talk
about
and
think
about
like.
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
creatively
about
how
to
get
involved.
So
actually
the
the
last
comment
in
the
ctx
talk
is
like
what
will
be
the
ctx
price.
So
I
think
what
the
next
thing
I'm
going
to
do
is
is
create
an
omen
market
on
x,
die
about
what
will
the
ctx
price
be
and
I'll
use
a
scalar
market,
and
then
I'm
going
to
drop
it
in
their
discord
and
say
well
here
you.
B
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
a
great
case
study,
john.
The
the
question
is:
how
can
we
get
like
speed?
Is
what
matters
in
situations
like
this,
so
the
only
way
that
I
could
see
new
pools
to
be
created
on
swapper
that
are
funding
with
capital
is,
like
you
said
through,
like
an
open
incentive
that
that,
if
people
do
this,
they
know
they
will
get
a
reward
and
slash
reimbursement
from
dxdow
right,
because
dx
dow
itself
would
not
be
able
to
do
these
things
fast
enough.
B
Theoretically,
dx
dow
could
assign
an
amount
of
capital
to
a
you
know
a
sub
committee,
or
something
which
would
probably
be
a
multi-sig
to
create
to
have
capital
to
create
some
pools.
So,
like
almost
like
the
equivalent
of
an
omen
squad,
they
could
be
fast
acting,
otherwise
it
would
have
to
be
pretty
good
incentive.
That's
out!
That's
publicized
in
order
for
people
to
do
it
themselves,
right,
like
like
in
your
scenario.
H
I
love
the
idea
of
reimbursing
and
refunding
a
pool
launch
just
because,
like
that
I
mean
that
seems
kind
of
like
a
way
of
supporting
swappers
kind
of
doing
that
and,
like
obviously
swapper
geek
style
benefits
a
lot
from
that.
B
E
I
Yeah,
I
love
what
you
did
there.
I
think
it's
definitely
it's
really
important
to
find,
like
always
the
next
big
thing
and
basically
get
in
before
the
next
big
thing.
Governance
token
even
has
a
price
like
you
did,
but
you
have
to
do
it
with
major
capital.
I
So
so,
like
sky
was
saying,
I
think
we
could
like
think
about
this
and
in
terms
of
dxd
gem
and
basically
allocate
like
one
million
for
dxd
gen
and
have
like
three
or
four
people
where
one
of
them
is
technical
and
looks
at
the
risk,
basically
of
getting
rug
pulled
and
the
other
guys
are
just
looking
hunting
for
the
next
big
opportunity.
I
But
even
if
we're
doing
that,
you
still
have
to
go
both
like
it's
by
jake
style,
but
also
you
have
to
have
some
good
incentive
for
the
degens
to
do
it,
because,
when
I
digit
into
it
with
with
one
million
from
the
style,
I'm
basically
myself,
because
now
my
I'm
getting
less
rewards
so
so
yeah.
You
need
some
pretty
good
incentives
to
do
it.
But
it's,
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
marketing
strategy
and
yeah.
E
Sky
glass
guy
there
yeah
yeah
yeah,
I
mean
the
amount
of
obviously
like
I
didn't
have
like
the
pool
is
not
very
big
right
now
and
and
then
the
incentives
is
an
interesting
question.
If
you
look
at
like
their
what
they
are
advertising
right
now,
they're
only
incentivizing
minting
of
tcap
and
they're
incentivizing,
a
tcap
eath
pool
on
sushi,
but
they're,
going
to
start
incentivizing
a
ctx
which
is
their
governance
token.
So
ctx
is
the
governor's
circuit,
tfca
synthetic
they're.
E
E
So
I
I
also
think
there's
like
some
chance
here
of
like
you
know
it's
essentially
a
biz
dev
effort
like
if
we
can
convince
these
projects
to
use
swapper
like
that's
sort
of
that's
another
one
of
the
challenges
right
like
if
they
chose
swapper
as
one
of
their
incentivized
pool.
That's
that's
huge
for
us
yeah.
H
I
think
we
kind
of
want
to
swim
a
little
upstream
right,
so
it's
not
so
much
like
when
it
appears
on
etherscan
or
when,
like
the
farming
starts,
it's
like
how
do
we
get
and
talk
to
those
groups
before
when
they're
kind
of
like
planning
all
that
and
then
get
them
on
swapper,
and
I
think
we're
only
now
in
the
place
to
be
able
to
do
that,
because
we
have
swapper
existing
and
working
now
so
yeah.
Maybe
it's
just
like
that.
Biz
dev
effort
of
kind
of
getting
and
attracting
those
initial
initial
pulls.
H
I
guess
we
also
did
this
like
radical
was
another
example
of
we
had
some
really
good,
probably
like
the
best
one
of
the
best
volumes
on
main
net,
and
it
wasn't
even
that
big
of
a
pool
right.
It
was
just
it
was
much
smaller
than
unispot,
sushi
and
balancer,
but
just
because
it
was
a
new
pool,
there
was,
you
know,
seen
lots
of
activity,
so
yeah
back
to
that
was
a
good
is
a
great
example.
Actually
that
would
have
been
great
actually.
H
I
actually
think
like
that,
just
basketball,
because
that's
kind
of
the
perfect
example
of
like
basically
it's
like
people-
are
trying
to
do
like
alternative
versions
of
like
existing
d5
primitives
right.
So,
like
the
d5
pulse
index,
one
I
think
basket
down
was
like
trying
to
do
a
different
version,
basically
of
that
and
kind
of
wasn't
exactly
a
vampire
attack,
but
something
similar
to
that-
and
I
think
those
are
the
type
of
projects
that
may
be
willing
to
venture
outside
of
the
unit
of
unit
swap
and
sushi,
swap.
E
You
know
one
of
the
interesting
things
is
that
they
already,
if
you
go
to
cryptex's
site,
they
are
showing
this
a
sushi
swap
pool
and
a
uniform
pool
so
they're.
I
think
this
is
another
advantage
for
swapper
right,
because
if
they
are
incentivizing
and
doing
like
observing
pools
across
exchanges,
swapper
now
is
actually
a
great
interface
to
use,
because
you
can
see
sushi
swap
and
unisop
and
you
can
do
the
trades
through
either
of
them,
but
but
yeah.
E
I
guess,
like
my
my
the
big
hope
would
be
that
they
would
actually
incentivize
like
a
swapper
pool,
and
I
mean
I
don't.
I
think
the
chances
are
probably
kind
of
low,
but
I
mean
who
knows
if
enough
people
started
using
this
pair
then
like
maybe
it
stands
a
chance.
It's
also
a
question
of
like
which
pairs
make
the
most
sense,
like
I
think,
they're
going
to
be
instead
of
as
an
ectx
pool,
but
then,
like
you,
know,
having
the
synthetic
against
the
governance
token,
I
don't
know
how
much
that
makes
sense.
E
B
Yeah
the
well,
you
may
have
mentioned
it,
but
I
was
just
talking
about
the
the
risk
involved
with
using
dxd
capital
to
to
ape
into
new
creation.
Swapper
pools
for,
like
these
unknown
projects,
there's
a
lot
of
risk
there,
which
you
probably
mentioned,
but.
E
Yeah
there
is
risk,
but
I
mean
if,
like
so
for
this
as
an
example
right,
if
dx
now
had
allocated
a
million
dollars
of
eth
to
farm
it,
you
could
actually,
you
know,
accumulate
a
decent
amount
of
the
governance
token,
with
very
low,
like
little
cost.
To
the
extent
the
risk
there
is
the
smart
contract
risk
right
like
do.
We
is
it
gonna
get
packed.
B
Yeah
and
and
who's
making
the
decision,
because
that
you
does
the
dow,
because
if
the
dow
has
to
decide
that's
too
slow,
but
if
it's
already
allocated
to
like
a
small
degen
team,
then
it's
on
them.
But
if,
if
if
that
million
dollars
gets
rug
pulled
or
it's
like
lost,
like
that's,
a
million
dollars
lost.
That's
this.
E
Might
be
a
good
use
case
for
for,
like
a
guild,
so
that
it's
still
like
a
decentralized
governance
structure,
everybody
could
potentially
move
faster,
yeah
and.
I
One
one
of
the
guild
members
should
be,
like
you
know,
like
an
auditor,
basically
like
a
someone
who
can
really
read
code
really
fast
and
make
a
an
informed
decision.
Basically
yeah.
E
I
E
Yeah
exactly-
and
I
actually
think
you
know
like:
yes,
it's
a
risky
endeavor,
but
if,
if
dx
now
is
putting
up
two
percent
of
its
capital
and
it's
and
it's
a
good,
you
know
there's
high
potential
in
marketing
like
I.
I
think
that
could
be
reasonable
right.
Like
worst
case,
the
million
dollars
is
lost
right
and
and
there's
there
is
some
chance
of
that.
But
but,
on
the
other
hand
like
to
be
relevant
in
the
market
like
we
need
to
do
things
aggressively.
J
I
can
speak
for
myself,
I
don't
see
it,
you
know
if
you
know,
there's
like
well
tested
contracts
out
there,
which
don't
have
this
high
risk
profile,
and
then
we
I
look.
I
looked
like
that.
We
for
me
it
looks
like
we
are
not
willing
to
take
this
kind
of
risk
and
then
we
take
like
we
make
like
an
auto,
take
part
of
the
treasury
and
go
full
risk.
So
I
don't
understand
yeah
why
we
are
so
hesitant
to
other
risks,
then,
because.
B
First
of
all,
we're
not
hesitant
to
earning
30
yield
on
yearn.
That
is,
there's
a
lie
proposal
to
do
that
it
hasn't
been
approved,
yet
we
haven't
done
it
yet.
But
earning
30
on
on
the
stable
coins
that
that
dxl
holds
on
yearn
is
a
great
thing
that
I
think
everyone
agrees
with.
So
we
are.
We
want
to
do
that
right
and
then
the
question
is:
we
want
to
do
dx
ventures
which
you
we
could
lose
a
million
dollars
in
dx
ventures.
J
My
yeah,
it's
just
more
about
our
risk
profile,
which
is
quite
unclear
than
to
me
in
a
way
it's
just
yeah.
H
I
mean
I
think
this
is
we're
kind
of
in
more
hypothetical.
So
I
think
this
is
like.
Definitely
like
a
good.
I
guess
we're
probably
not
gonna
farm
this
one
specific,
but
maybe
it's
something
that,
like
as
a
project,
comes
in
the
future.
We
can
be
ready
to
act,
but
it
seems
like
it's
kind
of
very
based
on
the
specific
project
and
the
context
of
that
that
one.
D
Couldn't
we
just,
I
mean,
obviously
that's
like
an
economic
question
and
you
guys
have
been
on
all
working
on
treasury
diversification
and
this
could
fall
under
that
category,
but
also
we
can
kind
of
do
as
we've
been
doing
with
similar
things
like.
I
consider
dx
ventures
to
be
pretty
risky,
we're
making
an
assessment
there
as
far
as
like
what
we're
doing
with
the
money
and
whether
we're
actually
expecting
a
return
on
it.
D
So
I
think
that
we
could
express
that
very
clearly
in
a
proposal
to
the
community,
and
you
know
we
have
to
really
listen
to
feedback
and
we
could,
even
you
know,
try
to
use
utilize
snapshot
again
or
something
some
sort
of
signal
from
dxd
holders,
specifically
about
how
they
feel
about
something
like
this.
D
Until
we
have
dx
vote
up.
E
Yeah,
it
would
be
good
to
get
some
signal
from
txt
I
would
say:
do
we
definitely
have
gotten
a
few
comments
here
and
there
that
to
the
effect
of
like
geeks,
that
was
not
aggressive
enough
with
its
treasury,
but
to
martin's
point
like,
I
think,
yeah,
like
sky
said,
I
don't
think
we
are
necessarily
opposed
to
doing
a
yield
on,
or
at
least
I
wouldn't
be
opposed,
getting
some
yield
on
curve.
E
But
I
mean
I
think,
if
you're
looking
at
stable,
coid
coin
yield,
you're,
probably
looking
at
a
larger
chunk
of
money
than
one
million
dollars
right
and
and
yeah,
even
though
the
smart
contracts
are
maybe
well
established
with
urine.
There's
tail
risks
just
by
like
the
way
that
curve
works
right
like
if
tether
goes
belly
up
the
whole
thing
kind
of
falls
apart.
E
So
like
there's,
there's
different
risks
to
assess
too,
but
I
mean
I,
I
just
think
like
yeah,
you
have
to
manage
it
as
a
whole
and
having
some
per
small,
relatively
small
percentage
like
less
than
10
doing
risky
stuff.
If
that
risky
stuff
is
like
towards
business
development
and
really
like
pushing
the
products,
then
like
that
sort
of,
I
think,
makes
sense.
J
E
J
D
E
I
think
maybe
a
d
like
a
guild
could
be
good
for
this
because
you
could
set
a
quorum
such
that
you
know
it
could
move
relatively
fast,
but
still,
you
know
be
in
control
of
like
a
relatively
decentralized
group
of
people.
B
Great,
I
we're
a
little
over
time
now.
People
have
a
couple
other
meetings,
so
unless
there's
no
other
immediate.
F
Topics,
because
just
quickly
to
mention
I
had
a
chat
with
liam
horn
from
optimism
and
eth
global.
You
know
they
conduct
a
scaling,
ethereum
hackathon,
and
so
he
proposed
this
loki
sponsorship
so
that
we
got
dx
tower
in
front
of
you
know
hackers
in
in
a
marketing
capacity.
F
So
I
thought
we
we
could
you
know
because
we
don't
have
a
properly
formed
department.
Yet
we
don't
have
a
marketing
head
and
we
don't
have
a
marketing
budget.
So
it's
kind
of
early
to
talk
about
it,
but
you
know
and
and
there's
still
time,
because
scaling
ethereum
runs
till
the
end
of
may
so
just
keep
it
in
your
minds
to
you
know
cover
it
on
another
call,
probably.