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From YouTube: DXproductstrategy Call [2022-12-09]
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00:01 Swapr Budget discussion
37:07 DXD redemption presentation
A
We
don't
need
to
do
you
don't
need
to
do
everything
at
the
same
time.
Basically-
and
this
is
maybe
the
problem
we
had
before,
we
we
worked-
I
mean
swapper-
was
in
a
swap
fork,
and
then
we
just
added
a
bunch
of
features
that
we
thought
would
be
awesome
and
suddenly
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
to
work
on
at
the
same
time,
and
people
just
saw
an
amm
right.
A
If
we
built
the
things
we
built
for
swapper
in
into
different
brands
and
different
places,
I
would
I
think
at
least
we
would
get
people
coming
back
for
as
an
example
for
for
for
the
bridging
or
for
zapping
or
for
the
echo
after
so
just
a
commentary,
regardless
I
I.
What
how
the
style
goes
forward.
Swapper.
A
Needs
to
be
con,
yeah
need
to
be
continuing,
yeah
evolving,
basically,.
B
B
If,
if
we
say,
if
you
take
swapper
as
like
a
Google
of
finding
the
right
price
or
Price
owner
of
AMS,
then
it's
easier
to
sell
where
you
just
come
in
and
then
you
will
find
the
right
price
and
separate
out
the
amm
part
of
it
and
the
zapping,
and
this
is
rewards,
and
it
just
makes
it
so
much
easier
to
sell
I
I
think
that's
my
take
as
well
like
you
could
sell
b2c
for
swapper.
B
It
could
be
B2B
for
liquidity.heath
or
the
rewards
for
the
campaign
creation
yeah.
Then
then,
our
strategy
for
sales
and
marketing,
also
it
kind
of
totally
changes
as
well.
C
D
D
At
least
I
mean
the
dock.
Is
there
so
you
can
kind
of
read
through
it,
but
it's
helpful
to
obviously
hear
it
and
I
guess
like
looking
at
the
budget,
so
it
looks
like
you
and
zap
venki
or
or
zet
and
venky
are
spending
all
of
your
time
on
the
swapper
DAP
component,
that
kind
of
first
one
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
who
is
going
to
work
on
coming
up
with
the
plan
and
recruiting
people
for
the
other
new
products
right?
B
Right
now,
I
mean
these
products
exist,
Within,
swapper
right.
We
need
yeah,
I,
think
the
first
two
months,
I
think
we
will
be
working
on
those
plans
as
well.
We
just
didn't
want
to
put
it
also
deals
with
how
yeah
how
what
what
are
the
priorities
for
the
Dow.
So
if
the
dog
decides
that
yeah
we
want
to
work
like
yeah,
you
want
to
see
zapper
implemented,
then
we
I
think
we
will.
B
We
will
try
to
split
this
time
across
else.
It's
it
still
exists
within
swapper,
and
then
we
have
to
keep
maintaining
it.
The
kind
of
the
way
that
we
approach
kind
of
changes
depends
upon
what
we
try
to
keep
it
alive
and
what
we
want
to
trim
it
down.
D
A
So
we
can
maybe
take
an
example.
Let's
say
a
big
star
votes
only
on
the
swapper
budget.
So
what
would
happen?
Maybe
I
could
chime
in
here.
So
what
would
happen?
Is
it's
basically
this
that
would
signal
that
the
liquidity
part
of
swapper
and
the
zapping
is
not
in
the
budget.
We
would
not
work
on
that.
A
Basically,
even
though
it's
still
inside
of
swap
right
now,
it's
there's
no
split
right,
but
we
would
not
work
on
on
any
liquidity
or
any
protocol
stuff
when
it
comes
to
that
and
we
would
only
work
on
adding
more
networks,
adding
more
amms,
adding
more
aggregators,
which
is
basically
what
what
the
plan
is
showing
here.
So,
let's
say
the
extile
votes
on
swapper
and
zapper.
Then
we
work
on
those
two
and.
E
B
Yeah
got
kicked
out
just
a
minute.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
B
It
is,
it
is
inside
a
swapper
I
mean
if
we,
if
we,
depending
upon
the
amount
of
scope
that
we
want
to
fund
these
projects
like,
for
instance,
for
DX
rewards
right
I
mean
we
could
just
have
it
right
now
as
a
separate
dap,
but
then
not
not
expanded.
Just
having
the
current
state
of
erc20
is
taking,
so
it
wouldn't
cost
a
lot.
B
It
wouldn't
cost
a
lot
for
the
doll
and
there
would
not
be
like
you,
don't
you
don't
need
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
like
putting
like
a
10
or
a
five
percent
of
project
management
like
that
to
to
these
daps
depends
upon
the
scope
that
we
want
to
budget
even
at
full,
even
at
full
budget.
I
think
we
have
been
doing
it
like
all
of
these
together,
so
until
it
is
launched,
I
guess
that
we
would
probably
be
yeah
I'm,
not
too
sure
how
to
actually
split
it
right
now,.
D
Yeah
I
think
the
current
state
I
guess
to
me
is
there
is
not
consensus
to
fund
those
other
ones
yet
without
like
more
information
and
more
research,
but
that
more
information
and
more
research
like
takes
time
and
energy
and
resources,
and
so
I
I,
don't
think
there's
even
yet
net.
Yet
consensus
to
like
do
that.
D
Research
and
have
those
energy
spent
on
the
research
I
think
there's
more
consensus
on
having
those
time
focused
on
like
the
swapper
DAP
and
maintaining
that
and
so
I
think,
like
the
percentage
layout,
you
have
for
the
time
work
here
actually
matches
up
with
what
I
think
some
of
the
focus
and
like
the
expectations
would
be
from
others.
I
had
one
other
question
to
looking
at
this
I
guess
and
looking
to
the
proposal.
I'm
thinking
it
from
like
the
DxD
holder's
perspective,
I
mean.
D
Obviously
we
just
passed
the
proposal
last
night
and
so
thinking
about
from
a
dxt
holder's
perspective.
Right,
there's
two
elements
that
matter
to
a
DHC
holder:
it's
the
spend
on
the
treasury
right
the
cost
from
the
treasury,
because
spending
money
out
of
the
treasury
is,
you
know,
literally
coming
from
the
cost
of
DxD,
and
then
the
other
side
is
on
the
asset
front.
D
It
benefits
from
the
rise
in
the
growth
in
the
treasury
and
one
of
the
potential
big
upside
growths
in
DX
Styles
treasury.
What
I
think
should
be
a
reason
to
hold
DxD
is
dxl's
considerable
position
of
swapper
token,
so
I
guess
from
a
DxD
holder's
perspective.
It
seems
that
some
of
these
other,
like
growth
areas,
are
not
I'm
trying
to
see
how
those
are
more
of
a
priority
than
like
doing
something
to
drive
value
to
swapper
token
or
including
something
about
swapper
token.
B
Yeah
I
mean
we
haven't
included
anything
that
is
related
to
software
token
in
the
dev
squad's
budget,
but
yeah.
Maybe
there
has
to
be
like
a
separate
discussion
that
needs
to
happen
on
how
to
govern
this
swapper
and
yeah.
We
haven't
yeah.
We
haven't
included
this
in
this
budget
because
it
is
about
product
development
and
right.
D
But
the
way
that
that
value
ultimately
comes
back
to
DXL
right
is,
through
the
swapper
token,
so
like
we're
finding
the
swapper
guild
like
that's
intricably
linked
or
there
needs
to
be
another
way
of
that
value.
Kind
of
coming
back
and
you're.
Seeing
the
focus
on
that
or
just
kind
of
a
conversation
on
that
in
here,
I
think
maybe
is
a
little
missing.
B
And
I
think
we
might
need
some
help
on
on
yeah
what
to
do
with
the
swapper
token,
oh
yeah
product
people
I'm
not
too
sure
how
to
drive
value
back
into
the
swapper
token
right
now,
not
at
this
Market
we
had
tried
a
bunch,
I
think
a
bunch
of
initiatives,
but
if
it
doesn't.
B
D
B
I
think
single
stacking
was
something
that
we
tried
from
the
product
perspective
with
all
of
the
liquidity
mining
campaigns
where,
but
apart
from
that,
we
haven't
had
a
solidity
Dev
to
work
on
work
on
the
BuyBacks
and
yeah
such
so
yeah.
We
probably
have
failed
on
providing
the
value
back
to
the
swapper
Token,
because
we
don't
have
the
skill
set
in
this
particular
Squad.
C
D
That
we
can
answer
that
question
now
and
I
also,
don't
think
we
should
try
to
do
that
like
it's
a
bad
idea
to
try
to
do
something
to
pump
doing
swap
or
token-
and
you
know
the
short
term
or
doing
something
like
that.
I'm.
Just
thinking
of
like
how
this
budget
kind
of
looks
in
the
perspective
of
it
and
like
it
seems
to
be
more
focused
on
like
potential
growth
opportunities
of
swapper,
which
I
think
are
important,
but
I
think
the
audience
and
the
audience
right.
D
Thinking,
rep
and
DxD
holders
are
probably
going
to
be
more
concerned
with
less
about
where
the
product
growth
area
is
but
more
about
like
what
is
the
effect
on
costs.
What
is
the
monthly
cost
on
this
product
that
has
seen
a
lot
of
investment
from
geeked
out
and
then
what
is
the
way
that
that
value
is
going
to
return?
D
And
again
you
don't
have
to
come
up
the
way
for
that,
but
just
like
understanding
that
there's
something
there
related
to
that,
and
maybe
there
needs
to
be
yeah
this
is
it
more
of
antiqued
out
problem,
but
I
just
think.
That's
the
perspective
of
a
DHD
owner,
and
so
if
something
is
funding
right,
if
you
do
the
six
months
on
this
right,
like
that
162k,
it's
basically
like
three
dollars
off
of
dxd's
price.
If
you
just
kind
of
like.
D
Terms
of
you're
buying
70
of
the
treasury,
if
you
take
out
160k
dollars,
and
so
just
figure
out
like
that
justification
to
that
audience,
I
think
is
important
and
comes
through
and
I
think
is
not
necessarily
coming
through.
D
Well,
the
comment
that
I
think
it
should
include
yeah
things
from
the
that
kind
of
Meet
the
perspective
of
how
does
this
drive
value
to
DxD
and
specifically
swapper
token
and
I?
Think
that's
missing
from
this
budget
now
and
I
think
it's
difficult
to
make
a
request
for
that
money
without
something
that
includes
at
least
a
you
know
tertiary,
like
a
a
casual
comment
on
that,
so
I
I
would
kind
of
support
something
to
put
something
in
the
budget
for
that.
B
Okay,
I
will
think
about
it.
I
don't
have
any
ideas
right
now,
where
I'll
think
about
it,
and
then
I
will
try
to
see
if
I
can
come
up
with
something.
D
Because
this
budget
is
not
just
about
ideas,
it's
about
values
right,
so
that's
what
it's
going
to
convey
like
these
are
the
things
that
the
guild
will
value
and
I.
Think
that's
all
I
kind
of
thing
is
there
is
maybe
conveying
some
of
those
those
values
here
seem
a
little
maybe
off
from
what
is
kind
of
yeah.
How
a
DxD
holder
might
look
at
this
now.
B
What
is
exactly
off
I'm
yeah.
D
D
A
D
D
D
Dxt
voters
value
is
governance,
power
and
so,
like
yeah,
that's
a
comment
I
made
on
the
gov
budget.
That
I
think
they
should
be
more
focused
on
driving
value
to
deaked
out
governance,
rather
than
necessarily
external
doubts.
It's
not
that
that's
also
not
a
focus,
but
that's
the
perspective
needed
yeah.
A
All
right,
I
think
it's
legit,
we're
trying
to
say
here,
but
I
think
saying
that
that
we
that
we
don't
have
that
we
don't
have
this
in
in
the
budget,
doesn't
makes,
makes
it
hard
for
dxter
holders
to
to
see
value
in.
This
is
maybe
a
little
bit
opinionated
from
from
your
opinion,
but
I
guess
it's
still
like
I
I
definitely
see
this
as
a
digital
holder.
Myself
I
want
all
all
of
our
squads
to
actually
try
to
drive
value,
but
it's.
D
Kind
of
like
a
political
messaging
thing
to
hear
too
I
think
we
should
like
be
okay
with
I.
Guess
we're
recording
so
like
it's
it's
kind
of
like
yes,
this
is
the
plan
of
how
to
execute,
but
the
plan
of
execute
which
is
like
you
know,
maybe
go
users,
do
a
bunch
of
things,
that's
different
than
how
you're
like
presenting
that
plan
and
understanding
that
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
disconnect
again
is
like
conveying
the
values
there.
F
I
just
have
I
have
a
question.
We
had
previously
discussed
only
putting
swapper
on
maintenance
and
having
a
skeleton
Squad
just
maintaining
swapper.
Will
you
propose
this
as
an
option
for
swapper
as
an
alternative
to
liquidity
and
zapper
in
the
liquidity
in
zapper
root?
A
B
D
B
B
Decommissioning,
I
would
say
yeah
but
yeah
it
is.
It
is
like
a
lean
mod.
It's
a
lean
part
where
it
is
time
boxed
and-
and
you
just
check
on
on
all
the
Integrations
there's,
there's
no
new
features
that
we
are
going
to
add,
except
that
unifying
the
swap
box,
where
we
want
to
yeah.
We
want
to
minimalize
what
swapper
is
so
apart
from
that
there
is
no
new
features
that
we
are
proposing
so
yeah.
So.
A
So,
let's
say
yeah
exactly
like
that,
so
if,
if
let's
say
we
go
into
what
we
would
call
now
maintenance
mode,
we
would
not
unify
the
swap,
we
will
not
touch
any
anything
and
just
keep
swapper
alive.
That
would
basically
be
like
the
minimum
to
keep
swapper
functioning
and
not
expanding.
So
as
an
example,
if
there's
a
new
network
out
there
not
go
to
that,
there's
a
hey
I'm
on
aggregator,
we
need
to
add
we
basically
don't
something
just
keep
things
minimal,
so
some
one
or
two
developer
or
just
one
developer.
It
depends.
A
G
F
Time
and
so
I'm
sorry,
you
don't
want.
F
A
A
A
We
just
so
happen
to
be
the
experts
here
and
we
we
think
this
is
the
best
way
forward,
at
least
from
our
situation
of
the
market
and
the
situation
with
digital.
So
we
don't
need
to
say,
hey
the
option.
Maintenance
mode
is
here
on
the
table
like
we
can
still
go
with
that
that
route,
we
don't
need
to
propose
it.
Anyone
can
propose
it.
So
as
an
example,
if
we
don't
come
with
any,
if
if
we
don't
like
the
proposal,
we're
we're
putting
here,
we
can
we
can
discuss,
we
can
talk
about
it.
A
We
see
what
what
don't
we
like.
What's
is
it
the
budget?
Is
that
the
money
is
that
the
idea
is?
Is
it
what
is
it
and
then
we
can
adapt?
And
if
we
don't
like
that,
then
yeah
swap
around
maintenance
mode
is
the
best
route
right
if
we
can
come
to
an
agreement,
but
this
is
what
we
think
is
the
best
route
forward.
C
D
B
I
mean
when
you
say,
maintenance
mode,
and
then
you
compare
it
to
DX
vote.
The
dx4
is
not
b2c,
I
mean
you
need
constantly.
Users
become
a
dead
product
like
Omen,
so
I
mean
comparing
DX
vote
and
swapper
is
different
because
one
is
B2B
and
one
is
b2c
yeah.
So
if
you
compare
how
we
have
how
we
have
Omen
and
maintenance
mode
to
how
you
have
dx4
and
Main
and
more
I
think
you
have
to
have
a
right
comparison.
Yeah
I.
D
E
D
Completely
and
I
think
you're
completely
right
on
the
like
the
I.
Don't
know,
B2B
I
like
to
see
consider
myself
as
a
b
business,
but,
like
you,
want
to
keep
servicing
the
existing
users
who
like
rely
on
and
maintain
that's
what
DX
vote
I
think
with
swapper.
You
definitely
want
to
do
that
as
a
base
and
Swamper
has
a
lot
more
users,
a
lot
more
users
than
the
Expo,
so
that
requires
a
little
bit
more
plus
I
think
there's
some
ability
to
even
grow
some
of
the
user
base
with
swapper
outside.
D
Any
technical
works,
this
is
kind
of
stuff
like
the
go
to
market
stuff
or
just
you
know,
in
general,
Market
developments,
so
I
think
that
there
is
a
level
above
the
explode
right
and
at
the
very
bottom
of
this
I
guess
is.
E
D
Even
though
Omen
works
great-
and
we
talk
about
kind
of
do
something
with
that,
but
that's
one
at
the
very
bottom
and
then
there's
the
Expo,
which
again
Geeks
vote,
we're
actually
not
trying
to
use
again.
That's
literally
maintenance
mode
like
with
a
dead
end,
because
we
have
something
else,
replace
it.
Swapper
is
not
a
dead
end
right,
like
I,
don't
think
it's
a
dead
end!
I
I,
don't
think
that's
something
we're
trying
to
do.
D
I
think
we're
right
now,
there's
just
not
enough
appetite
to
fund
a
lot
of
things
going
on
with
swapper
right
now,
just
because
I
mean
where
the
market
is
both
from
a
like.
The
size
of
the
treasury
is
kind
of,
like
you
know,
lower,
so
that
kind
of
affects
some
of
the
spend.
There's
also
like
what
is
the
the
value
out
on
that
spend
going
to
be
I'm
going
to
be
so
I,
don't
think
there
is
appetite
to
fund
all
of
these
things,
and
so
we
have
to
pick.
D
How
do
we
get
swapper
to
the
other
side
of
this?
How
do
we
kind
of
be
on
the
other
side
of
three
to
six
months
when
there
is
something
changed
in
the
market
when
there
is
a
new
idea,
when
the
mark,
when
we
have
kind
of
more
resources
or
we've
kind
of
found,
someone
there
and
I?
Think
it
is
this
like?
Maybe
we
need
a
different
word
than
like?
D
D
I
think
the
only
concern
is
that
if
that
is
the
maintenance
mode
of
doing
things
that
we're
doing
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
but
nothing
on
the
smart
contract,
all
additional
features
that
we've
already
integrated.
That
monthly
cost
then
seems
a
little
bit
High,
because
that
doesn't
seem
necessarily
like
that.
You
know
that
level
above
maintenance,
where
we're
just
trying
to
get
to
the
other
side.
It
seems
a
little
bit
more
like
we're
still
trying
to
fund
the
exploration
stage
and
I
think
for
swapper.
D
Right
now,
it's
more
on
like
getting
to
three
to
six
months
from
now,
without
spending
as
much
so
that
we
then
can
spend
right.
There's
a
there's,
a
limited
amount
of
funds
to
spend
here
right,
and
so
it's.
The
question
is
not
like
whether
we
should
spend
it's
more
of
like
in
the
future
versus
now,
and
it's
making
sure
swapper
gets
to
that
and
so
yeah
my
perspective,
because
I
would
like
to
see
this
top
Squad
I.
Think
that's!
You
know
something
that
will
continue
to
grow.
D
Swapper
I,
think
the
focus
should
be
on
everything
in
there
and
then,
let's
return
to
the
conversation
in
three
to
four
months,
and
we
can
talk
about
devoting
resources
and
times
to
the
things
at
the
bottom,
but
I
think
having
that
one
at
the
top
view
only
what
we're
focusing
resources
on
now
and
then,
if
there
are
and
just
having
the
resources
needed
to
provide
that
there
and
kind
of
reflecting
that
into
the
overall
cost.
That's
what
I
think
the
the
best
path
is
forward,
and
then
you
know
things
change.
There
are
different
ideas.
D
We
can
partner
with
different
people
the
markets
kind
of
will
move,
but
I
don't
think
we
want
to
be
forcing
something
right
now.
A
We'll
do
you
see
the
style
building
any
other
products
then
swap
like
this
and
the
Expo
and
the
character
and
carrots
unclear
for
now,
but
let's
say
a
part
of
this:
do
you
see
dick
style
doing
anything
else
for
this
six
months.
D
D
Yeah
I
mean
it's
definitely
like
a
different
environment
than
it
was
a
year
ago,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
this
in
terms
of
what
the
ex
you
know,
the
funding
opportunities
but
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
be
active
in
this
space.
It's
just
being
much
more
selective
and
like
that's.
Why
we're
being
that's?
Why
I
think
perspective
here
again
is
to
be
a
little
bit
more
selective
and
it's
like
okay,
it's
only
fun.
D
What
we
really
think
will
drive
value
now
and
that's
yeah
I
think
that's
the
perspective
that
DX
down
needs
to
have
over
the
next.
This
bear
Market.
That
doesn't
mean
you
don't
invest
in
Opportunities.
It
just
means
you
have
a
closer
scrutiny.
A
I
actually
see
see
it
differently,
maybe
but
I
see
that
we
should
double
down
on
bear
market
and
build
the
products
for
the
next,
at
least,
if
we
believe
in
the
disciples
and
then
there
will
be
a
new
cycle
right,
we
should
we
should
actually
build
now
and
not
wait
right.
D
A
F
Yeah
agreed
I
mean
I,
definitely
think
that
should
be
a
focus
as
well.
Just
one
more
concern
of
mine
is
that
the
squad
leads
of
swapper
will
mostly
be
reducing
their
time
and
eventually
leaving
within
the
next
six
months
and
I.
Think
it'll
be
really
challenging
to
execute
on
all
the
initiatives
with
zapper
and
liquidity.eth
and
like
switch
leadership
simultaneously,
have
you
guys
thought
about
the
challenge
that
that
will
arise
with
all
the
leadership
leaving
and
like?
F
F
B
I
have
yeah
I
think
if
it
is
if
this,
if
it
is
as
it
is
right
now,
I
think
I
will
probably
leave
as
well,
but
I
mean
the
product
keeps
this.
This
is
the
this
is
the
beauty
of
the
dove
the
product
keeps
moving
on.
If
you
have
a
good
roadmap
and
yeah,
you.
E
A
I
mean
it
shouldn't
be
adapted
like
I
shouldn't
be
swapper,
venky
shouldn't
be
swapper,
Adam
should
be
swamp
or
whoever
like
we
should
we
We
Are.
We
should
I
mean
maybe
communistic
to
think
about
this,
but
we're
just
workers
right
we're
not
guaranteed.
Any
of
us
could
be
gone
tomorrow
right.
We
can't,
we
can't
say
hey
if
you're
gone,
we
won't
be
doing
this.
A
I
will
I'll
use
my
time
at
the
style,
whatever
time
I
have
to
to
yeah
to
help
grow
the
best
it
can
and
if,
if
it
means
that
I
I
come
up
with
a
plan
to
do
it,
then
that's
that's
the
way
to
do
it,
and
this
now
can
decide
how
to
move
forward
like
I'm,
not
gonna.
Stop
trying,
because
I
know
I'm
gonna
be
gone.
January,
February,
foreign.
F
Interesting
I
remember
not
too
long
ago
you
saying
that
it
was
really
difficult
for
you
to
push
things
forward
with
swapper
and
and
kind
of
make
it
succeed,
because
it
was
not
really
like
your
vision
or
your
road
map,
and
so
I
mean
I.
I'm
nervous
that'll
happen
again.
If
this
is
yours
and
vankies
and
Adam's
vision
and
then
pitching
leadership,
maybe
the
same
case
might
happen
with
them.
The
same
thing
that
happened
with
you
that
it
being
your
product,
I.
A
Mean
I
mean
this:
this
is
no
it's
not
none
of
our
products.
I
hope
we
don't
see
this
as
our
like.
My
products
or
Ross
is
Davi
or
or
someone
else's
son.
So,
like
that's,
that
should
never
be
the
case.
We
shouldn't
be
the
face
of
anything.
We
should
just
have
responsibilities
and
deliver
WE
Post
our
proposals
and
deliver
on
them.
That's
it.
A
D
I
think
the
question
is
like
then,
when
we
can
see
that
there
will
be
like
this
transition.
How
do
both
sides
like
try
to
manage
it
and
I
think
that
is
a
challenge
like
we're
kind
of
dows
like
how
do
we
kind
of
do
this,
and
and
do
that
I?
Think
one
of
the
things
that
is
can
be
difficult,
though,
is,
if
there's
already
a
vision
in
place
and
then
trying
to
fit
someone
else
into
that.
D
They're,
just
they're
gonna
float
from
this
thing
to
that
way,
and
we
are
what
Shepherds
or
Guardians
like
of
that,
and
so
again
it's
not
thinking
about
just
like
the
next
six
months.
It's
like
well
swapper
is
going
to
be
out
of
all
of
our
hands
in
two
years
and
what
is
that
going
to
be?
You
know
then
or
whatever,
but
hey.
A
I
mean
I
hope
dick
Style
takes
care
of
their
their
Visionary
people
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
the
people
that
wants
to
drive
visions
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
theirs
or
for
now
at
least
I.
Think
it's
it's
quite
hard
being
that
person
at
least
I,
think
so.
I'm
not
saying
I'm
a
visioner
but
I'm
just
saying
I
can
come
up
with
ideas
and
try
to
drive
them
forward.
It
is,
and
we
talked
about
this
a
lot
maybe
about
having
the
perfect
perfect
solution
and
then
we
move
forward
it
is.
A
It
is
like
it
would
be
so
nice
to
be
just
doing
work
and
not
think
too
much.
But
our
work
is
thinking
a
lot
and
plan
a
lot
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
yeah
a
lot
of
pushback,
but
that's
part
of
it,
but
I
think
we
could
get
better
at
this
at
the
exta
and
I.
Think
if
you
have
these
people
that
want
to
drive
things
forward,
yeah
just
just
think
about
it
as
a
value
itself,
and
these
people
get
tired
and
move
on
and
I
guess.
A
F
All
right
anybody
else
have
any
comments
or
feedback
we're
over
the
hour,
so
won't
have
a
chance
to
hop
and
talk
about
carrot.
A
A
Can
you
just
imagine
that
feeling
or
I'm
just
trying
to
get
get
into
your
heads
like
appreciate
what
you
have
and
we
don't
need
to
like
circle
jerk
around
this
but
I'm
just
saying
this
pushback
I'm
talking
about
is
it's
happening
right
now,
as
we
talk
right,
I'm
trying
to
keep
my
calm
I'm
trying
to
just
shut
up,
even
though
I
want
to
comment
on
unnecessary
stuff,
it
is.
There
is
a
very
negative
sentiment
with
some
of
you
guys
and
it
is
very
boring
to
work
with
you
guys.
A
E
B
F
Have
your
opinion
and
thanks
for
kind
of
wrapping
it
up?
Does
anybody
else
have
any
comments
on
the
swapper
budget
or
anything
else.
D
C
C
D
I
really
think
this
skill
is
less
of
coming
up
with
the
vision,
but
more
about
doing
consensus.
Building
and
communication
in
the
process
is
what
ends
up
giving
it
that
legitimacy
that
it
is
coming
from.
You
know
the
decentralized
collective
and
not
from
a
single,
individual
and
I
think
that
process
is
yeah.
That's
the
that
thing
that
you
have
to
learn
to
be
able
to
do
it
right.
E
C
G
G
Nobody,
but
how
many
people
can
leave
we
prepared
for
this,
so
I
might
as
well
just
go
first.
A
G
For
it
Adam
do
you
want
to
share
your
screen
quickly?
Is
there
I,
don't
know
if
you're
still
running
it
locally.
H
Yeah
I
can
hear
it
all
right,
so
I
think
going
back
on
this
topic
and
people
were
being
concerned
about
how
we
do
this.
Some
people
should
just
select
GPT
one
other
side
like.
H
Etc
and
then
one
idea
that
we
had
like
initially
was
like,
if
we
can
just
do
all
the
calculations
often
and
then
so,
for
example,
you
can
get
everything
from
unusual
V2.
Some
of
the
polls
are
available.
Also
in
us
will
be
three
and
then
I
know.
There
was
like
a
spreadsheet
of
all
the
tokens
that
are
eligible
for
enough
calculation,
and
then
you
get
the
dollar
value.
H
So
we
picked
that
against,
like
usdc,
pull
on
unusual
B3
right
now
so
and
then
the
idea
like
who's
going
to
run
it.
So
the
idea
was,
if
it's
just
me,
I
can
probably
manipulate
this
to
my
advantage
and
then
take
a
lot
of
width
out
of
the
treasury,
whatever
that
is
for,
like
one
EXT.
So
what
we
come
up
with
is
like
a
very
similar
solution
to
what
Omnia
bridge
is
doing
on
the
X
side
chain.
H
So
what
we
did
is
like
we,
we
created
like
some
sort
of
a
another
blockchain
on
top
of
the
like
it's
just
written
in
JavaScript.
It's
like
super
simple,
but
it's
not
joining
on
EPM,
just
like
a
network
of
people
who
are
identify
themselves
as
signers
or
verifiers.
So
the
idea
is
very
simple:
you
have
like
one
server
that
is
basically
called
an
aggregator
node
and
this
aggregator
noise
can
be
hit
on
a
endpoint,
so
that
would
be
like
a
public
server.
H
Obviously
we're
going
to
be
running
this
as
a3c
other
people,
so
that
this
will
be
like
contributors,
whoever
wants
to
run
the
the
verifier
image
can
do
so.
You
just
need
to
register
yourself
on
the
contract,
so
there
is
a
contract
and
there
is
like
an
off-chain
system.
The
contract
verifies
that
there
is
a
siren,
that's
actually
doing
the
calculation
and
then
the
aggregator
basically
takes
all
of
the
data
from
all
the
signers.
So
basically,
first
time
is
going
to
calculate
the
initial
calculation.
So,
let's
see
the,
for
example.
H
H
Let's
see
if
this
is
gonna
take
some
time
yeah
all
right
so
now,
I'd
like
to
the
exit
and
I
want
to
redeem
this
to
wet
I'm,
going
to
get
0.67
width.
How
did
I
get
this
so
first
thing
the
Oracle
is
going
to
do.
The
AdvoCare
is
going
to
do
the
initial
calculation.
It
will
get
a
payload,
a
a
Json
payload
of
this.
It
will
send
it
to
each
signer.
Each
child
is
going
to
do
the
same
calculation.
It
will
compare
against
the
what
the
aggregator
got
if
it's
valid.
H
If
there's
like
a
100
match,
it
will
sign
it
and
then
it
will
send
it
back
to
the
other
girl.
The
aggregator
is
going
to
get
you
back
the
the
final
result
with
all
these
signatures.
So
this
is
where
I
can
list
of
the
signatures.
Then
you're
going
to
redeem
this
and
then
I'm.
This
is
not
game
tour
because
our
signers
are
not
available
right.
Now
we
haven't
registered
any
signers,
and
then
you
basically
sign
the
snatch.
This
is
very
similar
to
unit
Squad
V3
so
without
having
to
approve
our
contract.
H
H
You
sign
this
and
then
this
is
not
going
to
work,
obviously
so
because
it
will
revert
and
then
this
is
calculated
in
real
time
so
after
my
transaction
of
this
goes
through,
if
I
do
another,
if
I
saw
another
two
dxt
I'm
going
to
get
a
different
nav
and
then
a
different
amount
of
work-
and
this
is
all
over
real
time,
there
is
no
human
interaction
whatsoever.
Everything
is
automated
and
it's
going
to
be
publicly
available
for
everyone.
H
And
then
this
is
the
verifier
documentation,
so
you
just
send
the
message.
So
this
is
like
the
amount
of
DxD
gained
the
current
Circle.
You
can
take
the
supply
the
redeem
token,
so
this
would
be
like
the
address
of
the
token
wherever
that
is,
and
then
the
redeemed
usdc
price
for
the
top
token.
So
if
we're,
if
we're
talking
about
West,
that
would
be
like
around
1300.
H
a
redeemed
amount
of
the
amount
of
redeemed
token
that
this
person
wants
is
going
to
get
so.
This
is
the
initial
data
from
the
aggregator.
Then
the
collateral
usdc
call
is
the
nav
against
the
not
discounted,
so
that
would
be
like
70
of
the
actual
map,
and
then
you
can
see
that
this
is
actually
15
million.
It's
supposed
to
be
around
29
million
minus
no
29
million.
H
H
So
that's
our
solution
for
the
for
the
new
beginning,
stuff.
C
A
smart
contract,
that's
how
this
all
works.
They're
smart,
they're
super
smart,
but
there
would
be
a
smart.
D
H
Yes,
you
guys
don't
have
to
do
any
sort
of
moving
funds
around
so
every
so,
let's
say
like
you,
would
you.
D
But
is
it
just,
as
everyone
knows
like
every
time
you
do
an
approval
function?
You
should
really
trust
the
contract
you're,
giving
the
approval
function
too.
H
Yeah,
so
the
cool
thing
about
the
Oracle
is
like.
Let's
say
you
have
like
five
signers:
there
is
a
minimum
threshold,
so
if
any
of
those
signers
decide
that
this
result
is
basically
malicious,
they
can
just
abstain
from
signing,
which
is
definitely
what
the
logic
of
the
verifier
does
and
then
the
transaction
is
not
going
to
go
through,
because
the
contract
is
going
to
also
verify
that
out
of
five
silos.
There
has
to
be
at
least
four
signers.
E
H
G
H
H
Because
so
to
update
a
multiple
scheme
parameters,
you
first
need
to
I
think
you,
you
still
need
to
register
it
again.
You.
D
Gotta
read
it
definitely,
actually
you
have
to
register
a
new
contributions,
yeah
I'm,
just
saying,
because
in
this
this
is
a
point
to
your.
This
design
is
better
for
the
current
one,
because
the
point
being
we
could
do
one
approval
for
weft
and
die,
and
then
that
would
be
like
I
would
take
16
days
to
do
both
of
those
proposals,
but
then
that
would
all
teach
down
what
would
have
to
do
because
then
the
rest
of
it
would
be
automated.
D
D
Much
we
want
to
give
permission
in
that
and
that
initial
stage
right,
because
there's
maybe
the
question
of
yeah
and
I
also
the
other
thing
to
think
about-
is
like
dollars
here
dollars
versus
eth.
We
haven't
really
thought
about
that,
but
I
actually
think
in
general.
This
could
be
like
a
really
strategic
opportunity
to
be
using
some
of
the
dollars
instead
of
the
eth.
H
User
has
a
way
to
kind
of
diversify,
either
with
they
can
select
between
each
web
and
usdc
and
yeah.
D
I
think
it's
more
from
DX
Down's
perspective
we
actually
haven't
committed
to.
They
were
agnostic
on
the
asset.
That's
used
to
pay
off
and
I
think
we
should
think
about
what
that
asset
has
been.
When
East
was
at
4
000,
it
was
obvious
we
should
be
selling
to
get
the
DHD,
but
now
you
said
1200
100
1300.
You
know,
we've
already
been
doing
some
stable
coins,
so
just
but
we
don't
want
to
like
send
all
our
stable
coins
in
them.
East
crashes
a
bit
and
we're
kind
of
out
of
stable
coins.
D
G
D
E
D
Convert
the
usdc
to
to
wet
or
something
because
I
think
for
the
important
thing
from
whoever's
redeeming
it.
They
don't
really
care
because,
like
ether's
money,
what
is.
D
G
Yeah-
and
this
is
all
dockerized
so
theoretically,
it
would
be
possible
to
run
this
on
a
dark
node
as
well.
Perhaps
so
that
would
mean
a
lot
of
the
Excel
contributors
could
potentially
run
a
verifying
Oracle.
C
It
would
be
cool
whenever
3ac
the
new
one,
because
the
old
one's
coming
back
they're
around
they're
poking
their
head
out
again.
But
maybe
sharing
this
with
the
community
or.
G
C
H
Yeah,
so
everything
is
going
to
be
publicly
available
once
we
are
sure
that
we're
at
a
good
stage
and
then
obviously
this
will
come
with
like
posts
and
documentation.
We
can
also
do
like
a
signal
proposal
to
delegate
if
you
see
to
officially
run
the
aggregator
and
then
other
contributors
can
do
the
the
verifier
segment
of
this
service.
F
F
Thanks
for
sharing
Adam
and
David
really
looking
forward
to
it
any
questions
about.