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From YouTube: DXbiz WeeklyGathering [2022-08-08]
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00:04 Welcome
01:05 New member
02:44 CoW Protocol/Product/Strategy discussion
48:58 Infinite Genesis update
A
Welcome
to
the
digital
business
call
for
august,
8th
of
august
2022.
on
the
agenda.
Today
we
have
a
new
member
introduction.
Thomas
is
here
we'll,
let
you
introduce
yourself
in
a
minute.
Under
the
experience
discussions,
we
have
a
few
ongoing
discussions
with
the
cow
protocol,
a
common
narrative
that
is
sort
of
facing
many
many
doubts
in
the
space
right
now,
which
is
to
stop
and
observe
and
strategize.
We
can
talk
about
that
too.
Another
topic
to
talk
about
is
how
to
structure
deals.
A
If
we're
talking
about
dx,
incubation
or
or
I
mean
I
made
that
term
up,
it's
not
very
good,
but
yeah
so
for
nimi
and
maybe
for
future
projects
as
well.
A
Under
the
x
events,
we
have
infinite
hackathon
in
bogota
status
and
co-organizers
updates
and
yeah
under
the
accentures
we're
talking
about
some
of
the
new
discussions
that
have
been
happening
in
the
forum
and
in
the
chat
and
yeah
we
can
get
started.
Thomas
are
you
here.
B
Yes,
I'm
here
hi
everyone.
Well,
my
name
is
thomas.
I've
been
a
developer,
full
stack
developer
for
four
years
now
I
worked
with
c
sharp
angular
and
then
I
shifted
to
javascript.
They
react
react
native
and
no
so
I'm
here
to
collaborate
in
anything.
You
need
and
very
excited
to
be
here.
B
A
Yeah
welcome
welcome
to
the
town
and
yeah.
I
guess
you're
talking
to
acoustic
dr
melanie
as
well,
and
yeah
figure
out
how
to
contribute
to
the
excel
yeah.
E
B
E
A
A
Yeah
moving
on
to
the
next
topic,
we
have
some
of
the
car
protocol
discussions.
Do
we
want
to
is
that
z?
Do
you
wanna,
bring
us.
F
Give
yeah
a
little
background
and
then
maybe
zed
or
adam
adam,
so
we
we've
been
talking
with
the
cow
team
over
the
last
while
when
we
did
got
deeper
with
them
in
paris
than
we've
been
having
a
follow-up
call,
and
we've
talked
about
a
lot
of
the
same
similar
things
that
you
know
swapper
faces
in
general,
but
then
with
the
integration
of
cal
protocol
and
what
that
means
for
swapper
and
how
to
prioritize
it
and
yeah
cal
protocol
is,
is
coming
up
with
a
program
to
incentivize
projects
to
send
more
traffic
to
cal
protocol,
which
is
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
cal,
the
more
traffic
cal
protocol
gets,
the
better
cal
protocol
becomes
with
its
coincidence
of
wants
and
and
in
general
it's
it's
not
too
much
different
than
what
some
other
aggregators
in
the
space
have.
F
Also
done.
You
know
and
dx
echo
routing
theoretically,
is
you
is
a
semi-aggregator
which
could
eventually
have
this
this
own
facing
this
own
problem?
It's
not
problem,
but
this
issue
itself
of
incentivizing
people
to
use
your
your
protocol
or
your
tool
and
yeah
part
of
the
you
know.
Part
of
the
benefit
of
cal
protocol
is
that
it
swapper
is
able
to
you
know,
because
it's
signing
a
message
versus
doing
your
own
transaction.
F
It's
like
these
things
are
more
easily
measurable.
You
know
other
aggregators
have
like
referral
programs.
This
is
effectively
an
embedded
referral
program
because
we're
sending
orders
and
signing
messages
from
from
users
of
swapper
to
cal
protocol,
and
so
we've
been
working
with
them
on
how
that
what
that
program
could
look
like
and
obviously
swapper
has
been
a
been
a
the
pools
on
software
have
been
a
place
to
incentivize
cow
liquidity
mining
as
well.
So
it
ties
in
well
there
and
yeah.
F
F
It
also
becomes
a
business
opportunity
for
dxdow,
because
earning
earning
revenues
through
referral
is,
is
something
that's
you
know
happens
and
it's
quite
popular
throughout
the
entire
d5
space.
And
if
this
would
be,
this
would
be
the
first
revenue
that
the
dx,
dow
and
swapper
could
earn
in
this
method
and
and
if
it
works,
there's
potentially
other
yeah.
F
That's
that
could
be
another
path
towards
revenue
that
swapper
can
see
in
the
future,
and
so
we
could
start
thinking
about
that
in
the
in
the
background,
in
or
in
when
making
decisions
on
what
features
and
what
path
swapper
is
going
down
is
when
there's
refer
methods
of
referral
revenue
that
that
becomes
very
attractive
to
the
actual
swapper
product.
F
So
it's
something
to
keep
in
the
back
of
mind.
I
think
that's
actually
what
like
shapeshift,
for
example,
they
are
doing
that
in
this
example
as
well,
but
they're
they're,
thinking
about
that
same
logic
for
all
of
the
things
in
d5,
and
so
at
least
swapper
can
think
about
that
for
for
trading
and
for
bridging
at
first
and
then
eventually.
Maybe
swapper
has
could
think
about
that
ability
into
other
other
defy
areas
as
well.
F
But
it's
a
overall
it's
a
positive,
because
it's
a
it's
a
new
form
of
revenue
for
swapper,
and
so
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
focus
on.
I
guess!
F
Well,
okay,
revenue
is
not
the
main
focus
now,
but
if
it
leads
to
users-
and
it
also
is
a
form
of
revenue
that
is
overall
positive
for
swapper
I'd
say,
and
so
we
should
factor
that
into
the
planning
and
discussions
around
the
products
that
dxdow
is
building,
but
I
don't
know
adam
if
you
or
anyone
else,
if
you
want
to
add,
is
that
anything
else
related
to
that.
But
that's
the
background
on
on
cal
protocol.
G
Overall,
I
think
like
have
you
heard
this
expression
in
action
movies,
where
the
protagonist
says
I've
got
nothing
to
lose
like
if
we're
not
generating
revenue.
It's
not
like.
We
don't
have
anything
to
lose.
Of
course,
it's
our
reputation
and
our
brand
that
we've
been
building
for
a
while
but
like
when
we
look
at
other
protocols
and
and
the
fact
that
they're
charging
fees
and
thousands
of
people
are
still
using
them
and
they're
generating
a
great
amount
of
revenue.
G
G
G
You
can
do
so
much
farming
and
at
the
same
time
we're
saying
you
can
do
it
all
for
free,
but
at
the
same
time
we
could
be
saying
and
it
costs
just
a
dollar,
and
I
don't
think
people
will
be
like
saying.
Oh
you
crazy.
Why
you
charging
me
white
one
dollar,
helping
me
not
get
hacked,
I
think
they'll
be
asking.
Oh,
is
it
just
one
dollar?
You
could
be
charging
me
ten
dollars
I'll
still
come.
A
Here
yeah,
so
I
I
think
I
think
househop
is
or
a
cow
protocol
is
looking
for
ways
to
incentivize
like
different
front
ends,
and
maybe
we
can
be
the
design
partner,
because
I,
I
guess
we're
the
only
one
of
the
probably
the
only
live
one
and
then
figure
out
like
how
can
we
also
earn
yeah
money
from
this.
F
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
mean
these
are
great
discussions
overall.
F
We're
talking
about
cow
protocol
mainly
and
the
the
reason
is
because
it's
a
partnership,
it's
a
path
towards
revenue
for
swapper,
in
a
time
when,
when
dxe
holders
and
rep
holders
are
questioning
whether
dx
dow
should
even
build
something
like
swapper
any
further,
because
each
dollar
going
in
should
lead
to
more
than
one
dollar
coming
out,
and
so
this
is
related
to
the
next
topic
of
in
this
yeah,
something
that
maybe
dxdow
doesn't
do
very
often
and
and
sometimes
it
takes
a
builder
market
or
a
bear
market
to
for
projects
to
do
this,
but
dx
dial
has
been
building.
F
You
know
a
number
of
different
things,
and
very
rarely
does
it
stop
and
think
about
what
it's
actually
building
and
why
it's
building
it,
and
is
it
the
right
focus
and
things
like
that,
so
that
that
this
next
topic
is
this
this
I,
this
topic
is
coming
up,
whether
we're
talking
about
the
dxd
buyback,
whether
we're
talking
about
swapper
the
product,
whether
we're
talking
about
carrot,
whether
we're
talking
about.
What's
you
know,
dx
ventures
investing
or
supporting
projects,
and
what
it's
going
to
lead
to
this
all
coming?
F
It's
all
coming
back
to
well
what
is
the
end
goal
of
dxdow
and
delivering
value
to
dxd
holders,
and
that's
something
that
in
general
yeah
we
we
have
in
the
back
of
our
minds,
but
we
don't
actively
talk
about
the
end
goal
strategy
long
term,
as
often
as
we
probably
should
be,
and
the
there's
a
lot
of
projects
given
you
know
tighter
runways
and
and
the
bear
market
and
prices
coming
down
where
projects
are
really
having
to
like
cut
and
focus
and
decide
on
what
is
the
most
efficient
path
forward
and
I
think
dx
dow
there
are
you.
F
Members
that
are
also
raising
this
topic,
mainly
because
it
ties
in
with
everything
dxdow
is
doing,
and-
and
this
is
you
know-
maybe
this
is
better
for
the
product
strategy
caller.
Maybe
we
need,
you
know
a
more
dedicated
session
towards
this,
but
this
analysis
and
and
where
dx
dao
should
focus
its
efforts
should
be
more.
F
Should
it's
probably
better
if
it's
more
at
the
forefront
and
why
dx
dow
is,
is
going
down
those
paths
because
it
keeps
coming
up
in
in
every
yeah
every
topic
and
discussion
that
dx
dao
is
involved
in,
and
it's
not
very
clear,
and
it's
not
that
overall
plan
and
the
end
goal
is
not
outlined
really
and
and
approved
by
the
dao
any
in
any
transparent
place,
at
least
in
a
in
a
while.
It
hasn't
been
so.
D
A
F
Topic
or
well
right
so
like
yeah,
that
was
just
one
of
the
reasons.
Well,
that's
not
the
reason
we're
talking
about
cow,
we're
talking
about
cow
because
that's
ongoing,
but
this
this
this
scenario
of
dx
dao,
should
be
talking
about
what
jarrow's
describing
here
like
we.
We
need
to
be
talking
about
this
more
and
we
need
to
have
this
plan
logically
set
out
and
and
approved
by
the
dow
itself
and
shareholders,
rather
than
just
continue
to
go
down
paths
which,
which
you
just
happen
to
be
going
down.
F
We
can
always
change
those
paths,
but
in
order
to
change
and
make
adjustments,
we
really
need
to
like
stop
for
a
second
step
back
and
and
look
at
the
space
and
look
at
the
products
and
look
at
the
places
where
dxdow
could
invest
or
not,
invest
and
then
make
a
decision
from
there
and
so
just
identifying
that
that
that
discussion
needs
to
happen.
F
There's
probably
some
tough
questions
that
that
yeah
rep
holders
and
dxd
holders
have
been
some
people
have
been
asking
and
and
and
we
these
things
should
be
probably
out
in
the
open
and
and
then
we
need
to
talk
through
them
and
figure
out
the
answers
to
that
and
then
have
every
have
the
dow
aligned
I
mean
not.
F
Everyone
has
to
agree,
but
the
dow
itself
has
to
has
to
on
on
average,
come
up
with
what
that
path
forward
is
and
where
its
focus
and
and
where
its
investments
and
where
it
should
be,
investing
its
its
resources
and
its
time.
Basically
so.
A
Yeah,
so
sky.
I
think
this.
This
is
right
on
the
under
the
nose
for
the
next
topic,
which
is
sort
of
yeah
common
narrative
or
a
common
thing
that
people
are
doing
these
days
or
dows
in
general,
is
to
just
like
stop
for
a
minute
and
figure
out
and
strategize,
basically
kind
of,
like,
I
think,
you've
written
here,
like
listen
things,
strategize
plan
set
goals,
decide
actions
and
yeah
instead
of,
like
you,
know,
building
understanding
what
we
want
to
do.
A
What
is
a
strategy
and
then
figuring
out
like
the
path
to
do
it?
I
think
you
know
it
would
be
great.
I
I
mean
I
can't
make
it
to
bogota,
but
you
know,
I
think,
that's
like
a
great
moment
to
actually
I
don't
know
solidify
some
of
these
things
and
then
maybe
just
like
happen
just
like
what
happened
in
lisbon
last
year,
each
of
the
sort
of
squads
will
be
able
to
yeah.
A
F
I
think
it
gets
back
to
okrs
and
I
don't
know
if
okr
like
people,
don't
like
the
term
okrs
but
like
we've
done,
the
xtile
has
done
this
in
the
past.
It
has
helped
at
least
get
people
aligned
on.
We
have
these
paths
we're
going
down
with
these
products
and
here's
okrs
and
these
products.
Now
maybe
we
should
take
those
okrs
which
we
had
done
a
year
ago,
evaluate
how
far
towards
those
goals
we
got
and
then
adjust
the
goal.
F
F
How
far
do
we
get?
How
much
do
we
spend
and
where
are
we
and
then
reevaluate,
what
the
new
goals
are
and
then
figure
out
if
there's
new
opportunities
or
some
opportunities
weren't
as
successful
and
then
adjust
the
paths
of
this?
The
path
of
the
ship
of
the
dx
dao
ship,
based
on
some
okr's
evaluation
and
then
new
idea,
okrs
for
like
one
year
from
now
or
six
months
from
now.
Right,
like
that's
the
whole
point
of
okrs,
is
we
need
to
do
the
evaluation
based
on
the
prior
okrs
right.
D
I
mean
not
even
that,
like
before
we
evaluate
the
okrs
of
the
products
we
need
to,
like
think
with
each
other.
Like
we
have
bases,
are
those
spaces,
something
we
should
look
into
the
future
like.
Should
we
maintain
those
bases
and
like
build
them
out,
we
tried
arbitrary.
D
I
would
like
my
personal
viewers,
it's
it.
It
was
a
nice
try,
but
I'm
not
really
bullish
on
arbitrary
knowledge
chain.
We
got
lucky
on
timing.
Swapper
is
successful
on
glasses
chain
now,
and
the
question
is
like:
does
gnosis
chain
even
make
sense
for
us?
So
before
we
even
start
talking
about
products,
I
would
like.
I
would
love
to
know
where
details
have
like
the
castle.
D
Like
are
our
castles,
like
our
bases,
do
they
make
sense?
Should
we
put
resources
on
them?
Duff
2.0
is
like
forever
delayed.
Dxd
holders
are
not
happy.
I
think
we
should
start
like
putting
like
the
our
focus
on
gov
tomorrow
and
with
2.0.
That's
like
yeah.
We've
got
2.0.
The
the
main
question
is
like:
where
should
it
live
right?
If
we
deliver,
where
should
it
live
on
our
like
current
basis?
Does
it
make
sense
to
look
for
new
bases
with
it?
F
Exactly
yeah,
so
you
what
you
just
described
so
I'm
sure
governance
2.0
was
in
our
goals
from
the
last
time
we
did
this.
We
would
evaluate
that
like
we
haven't
well,
we
we've
made
progress
on
dxgov,
but
we
haven't
gotten
to
governance
2.0.
We
evaluate
that
and
then
you
know
now.
Ross
is
coming
up
with
either
new
ideas
for
even
revenue
related
to
government
dx
gov
products,
which
is
a
new
thing
which
we
hadn't
talked
about
in
the
past.
F
We
just
kind
of
assumed
it
wouldn't
have
revenue,
but
it
could
have
revenue,
and
so
that
comes
into
the
new
like.
Oh,
let's,
let's
invest
over
the
next
six
months.
What's
our
focus
dx
gov
and
these
products,
because
these
products
actually
help
dx
dow,
on
its
current
basis
and
potentially
future
bases,
plus
there's
actual
revenue
opportunities
based
on
these
products
that
are
being
built
and
we're
investing
in
but
yeah.
F
We
need
to
just
re-have
those
conversations
and
I
think
all
of
those
points
you
just
said
plus
what
people
are
writing
the
chat
like
would
all
come
into
that
converse
into
those
conversations
for
sure,
but
we
need
to
do
us.
The
thing
is,
we
need
to
stop
and
and
do
this
process
instead
of
just
build,
like
you
literally
have
to
like
we
have
one
week
every
six
months
where
we
actually
stop
in
there
for
that
week.
We're
just
focused
on
this
like
update
evaluation
and
adjusting
the
path
kind
of
thing.
G
G
F
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
learning
that
dows.
You
know
there's
an
example
of
like
file
coin
and
juan
binet.
I've
heard
this
example
a
lot
like
without
the
visionary
outlook
of
of
coming
from
his
individual
mind,
which
you
know
foul
coin
protocol
is
not
a
dow
right.
It's
like
literally
one
person
deciding
like
steve
jobs
style
like
I'm,
the
I'm
gonna
build.
What
I
I
think,
might
I
personally
think
people
are
gonna,
want
the
dow
didn't
decide
this
right
and
so
we're
learning
that
taos.
A
A
But
I
think
dx
dao
should
become
a
lot
more
sort
of
like
a
an
incubation
and
spin
out
dao,
and
this
means
that,
like
roughly-
and
I
will
articulate
this
better
in-
like
maybe
a
separate
form
post
but
roughly
this
means
that
the
style
focuses
on
its
own
governance,
sort
of
like
you
know,
dick's
voice
and
the
expis.
And
these
type
of
things-
and
you
know
perhaps
also
you
know,
like
some
development
help
and
services
and
auditing
and
stuff
like
that.
A
But
it
mostly
should
be
d5
protocols
or
or
any
sort
of
like
protocols
for
ecosystem
that
come.
They
they
they
are
born
or
they
are
incubated
by
the
external
and
then
they
are
spun
out
not
fully
out
right.
Because
the
members
of
you
know
what
you
know
whether
this
is
whether
this
is
neemi
or
carrot,
they're
still
a
part
of
the
style,
but
they
are
their
own
entities
and
they
have
autonomy.
And
they
can
do
whatever
they
think
that
they
think
is
good.
A
I
think
this
is
like
a
meaningful
like
like
a
scalable
way
forward.
I
I
I
don't
want
to
turn
this
down
to
into
a
vc,
but
I
think
this
is
like
a
very
if
anything
like
this
is
more
like
seed
club.
A
Only,
I
think
we
have
like
a
very
meaningful
advantage
is
that
we're
actually
decentralized-
and
this
is
one
of
the
biggest
value
proposition
we
can
propose-
we
can
propose
two
new
projects
that
come
the
ability
to
sort
of
like
genuinely
genuinely
decentralize
from
day
one
and
tackling
some
of
their
biggest
issues,
which
is
you
know,
whatever
the
token
and
what
that
will
be,
and
the
governance
structure
and
let
them
focus
specifically
on
the
product.
Whether
this
is
you
know,
carrot
or
or
swapper,
or
anything
else
and
I'll.
A
Even
you
know.
The
extreme
case
of
this
is,
if
you
don't
think
that
you
should
spin
out
that
protocol
and
it
should
still
be
remaining
a
part
of
the
excel,
then
maybe
it's
not
worth
yeah
pursuing
in,
like
at
all
so
yeah.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
anything
like
it's.
I
mean
it's
not
risk
on
things
we
don't
know
and
and
defy,
and
there's
like
this
is,
I
mean
you're,
extrapolating
something
I
never
said.
I
never
said
we're
gonna
be
funding
random
teams.
I
never
said
we're
going
to
be
funding
anon
devs.
This
is
teams
that
we
feel
comfortable
with
and
you
know
we're
we
feel
aligned
so
yeah.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wants
to
have
any
more
comments
on
this.
G
But
it
is,
it
is
not
a
bad
idea
at
all
when
we
have
say
our
tech
stack
like
swapper
aqua
guilds,
ready,
like
well-shaped
products,
ready
to
use
without
any
contingencies
like.
Oh,
we
still
need
to
build
this.
It's
gonna
take
another
half
a
year.
We
need
to
audit
contracts,
blah
blah
blah.
When
we
have
those
ready,
it
would
be
much
easier
to
do
something
like
what
you're
describing
and
it's
it's
actually
really
cool.
F
I
I'm
not
sure
that,
like
at
some
point,
dx
style
is
gonna
have
its
products
that,
like
it,
has
millions
of
users
and
millions
of
dollars
of
revenue
like
that
path
is
looks
far
away
and
and
some
dxd
holders
are
asking
like
can
can.
Can
you
explain
that
path
today
and
right
now?
We
we
have
not
shared
an
explanation
to
how
to
get
to
that
path.
F
We're
just
kind
of
saying
it,
but
we
have
no
proof
and
you're
not
showing
it
to
dxd
holders
or
rep
holders,
and
so
then
you
know
some
people
think
that
dx
dao
would
actually
be
just
as
good
at
or
better
at
like
finding
outside
teams
that
can
that
are
building
also
interesting
products
and
supporting
those
and
bringing
those
into
the
bringing
the
specialties
that
the
exile
is
good
at
and
and
sharing
and
bringing
those
to
add
value
to
those
projects.
F
And
yes,
the
the
projects
that
dx
ventures
has
supported.
So
far,
there's
been
no
like
returns
but,
like
those
are
generally
much
longer
term
things.
F
There's
a
bunch
of
good
projects
that
dxdow
has
supported
and
dxdow
is
continuing
to
look
at
new
projects,
but
it's
it's
a
competitive
market
and
and
and
it's
there's
lots
of
prod
opportunities
out
there
and
it's
hard
to
decide
which
ones
to
support,
but
the
some
of
those
you
know
some
of
supporting
projects
early
and
and
ones
that
are
good
and
supporting
them
and
adding
value
to
them
and
bringing
them
to
your
ecosystem
could
end
up
being
one
of
the
most
best
returns
that
dx
dow
could
create.
But
we're
also
guessing
at
that.
F
But
you
at
least
you
could
explain
how
those
products
like
spicy
soup
gave
an
example
of
a
project
in
the
in
the
nemi
forum
discussion,
and
actually
that
thing
would
have
returned
really
well
and
it
actually
did
return
really
well.
If
you
had
supported
it
early
and
so
you
can,
you
can
show
paths
for
returns
based
on
supporting
projects
early,
and
so
we
would
need
to
show
those
same
paths
to
returns
for
the
products
that
dxdow
is
building
itself.
F
A
I
mean
my
sort
of
take
of
this.
Is
that
if
someone
is
going
to
you
know
dedicate
to
their
you
know,
150
of
their
time
to
building
a
startup.
They
want
to
have
some
like
meaningful
upside
them
like
individually,
and
so
that's
that's.
Where
staying
a
part
of
the
style
like,
I
think
I
think,
hurts
sort
of
like
the
chances
of
this
startup
or
whatever
protocol
to
succeed
and
I'll
take
neemi
as
an
example.
But
this
is
this,
is
I
think
it's
relevant
for
swapper
or
for
carrot
or
for
anything
else.
A
A
But
I
think
each
one
of
these
projects,
you
know,
could
succeed
on
their
own
with
the
support
of
the
external,
and
I
think
dx
now
can
create
a
huge
network
of
of
support
and
assistance,
and
you
know,
I
think
many
people
here
have
like
a
lot
of
connections
and
you
know,
could
help
even
with
development
work
and
there's
so
much
that
can
be
done.
A
The
the
key
here,
I
think,
is
to
find
the
right
structure,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
we're
you
know
figuring
out
with
nimi
right
now,
and
I
don't
think
I
I
want
to
say
like
I
think
you
touched.
Maybe
on
many
times
you
want
to
make
these
things
scalable,
and
how
do
we
do
this
with
like
100
different
projects?
And
I
don't.
A
We
should
focus
on
that.
We
should
focus
on
doing
on
just
like
one
or
two
protocols,
whatever
startups
nimi
and
then
maybe
carrot
and
then
figure
out.
How
do
we
scale
this
even
more?
And
you
know
just
one
of
these
being
successful-
means
that
the
style
is
going
to
have
meaningful
return
for
dxd
holders
and
yeah.
I
don't
know
this
is
still
like
very
rough.
In
my
mind,
I
wrote
something
in
the
mimi
thread,
but
I
should
probably
write
something
like
a
bit
more
coherent
and
yeah.
A
I
I
think
part
of
it
is
just
like
what
do
projects
need
to
get
launched
and
be
on
their
own,
and
I
think
in
2017
you
really.
It
was
almost
impossible.
I
think
to
do
something
without
like
having
a
legal
entity
without
going
like
very
lawyerly,
and
so
you
see
a
lot
of
projects
that
have
have
kind
of
that
area
within
the
last
year
or
two
you've
had
a
much
more
wider
way
of
being
able
to
launch
a
token
do
liquidity
mining
and
be
able
to
build
something
there.
I
I'm
not
sure
what
it
will
be
going
forward.
It
will
probably
adapt
a
little
bit
more,
but
just
thinking
that,
like
long
term,
this
is
an
area
we
want
to
be
in,
and
I
think
that
this
you
know,
call
it
a
web
3
business
model,
but
this
really
has
not
emerged
yet,
and
so
the
incubation
model
will
probably
take
some
time
to
emerge
as
well.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
know
any
other
thoughts
about
this.
I
don't
know
john
geronimo
and
that
I
don't
know
other
people
who
are
in
the
chat.
I
G
H
I
think
kickstart
might
need
some
more
like
aggressive
money
thinking
and
one
way
to
do
that
is,
I
know
it's
I.
This
will
be
bad,
but
I'll
say
it,
but
maybe
involve
people
that
is
good
with
money,
maybe
like
vcs.
It
could
I
I
know
we
talked
about
this
like
two
years
ago
like
should
a
vc
invest
in
d
style
like
own
dxd
like
they
could
do
it.
H
They
don't
need
to
ask
us
right
but
like
if
we
could
hear
like
from
from
from
someone
that
actively
every
day
is
like
just
working
towards
they
don't
care
about
them
like
the
web
3
world
and
all
of
that,
but
they're
actually
super
aggressive
on
making
money
right.
So
we
could
like
balance
out,
because
we,
I
think,
a
lot
of
us
care
about
web
3.
We
are
passionate
about
web3
care
about
decentralization,
but
somewhere
we
need
to
start
making
revenue.
H
We
need
to
start
to
have
like
yeah,
some
better
prediction
on
how
to
make
money
when
what
what
will
will
work
right
in
the
end
like
yeah,
we
we
need
people
to
use
what
we
are
doing
and-
and
we
might
be
wrong
with
our
predictions,
even
though
we
are
right
technically,
we
might
be
wrong
with
the
predictions
right,
so
I
think
maybe
different
perspectives
and
and
not
like
yeah
not
be
in
the
in
the
bubble.
C
Yeah,
I
was
there
also
projects
like
asteroids,
for
example,
if
limo
are
looking
for
funding,
you
know,
and
I
think
these
are
like
very
specific
projects
where
dxda
would
be
an
ideal
kind
of
partner
if
we
find
out
a
deal
that
makes
sense
for
the
dow.
You
know,
because
these
are
like
extending
on
stuff,
we
believe
in
and
like
asteroids.
Even
they
don't
want
to
go
to
a
vc
right
like
they
would.
C
Rather,
you
know,
find
a
better
arrangement,
and
I
think
if
these
are
products
we
believe
in
and
we
use
a
lot
as
well.
You
know,
I
think,
like
it
would
be
interesting
to
look
at
stuff
as
well
in
that
direction.
You
know,
and
it
could
generate
a
lot
of
awareness
for
dx
style
if,
like
dot,
limo
or
asteroids,
you
know
which
is
like
could
be
the
search
engine
and
they're
building
different
products
as
well.
You
know
like
I
think
that
could
be
cool,
but.
D
I
D
Be
quite
interesting
to
look
at
what
have
we
funded?
How
are
the
projects
going
and
like
I
like?
I'm
sure
it
takes
time
to
have
like
like
to
have
a
profitable
investment
right,
but
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
some
reflection
about
how
like
how
much
money
was
spent
and
how
are
those
projects
doing
because,
in
my
view,
just
like
very
personal
view,
we
do
like
public
goods
funding
like
the
asteroids
limo.
H
D
That's
public
good
funding,
I
think
I'm
I'm
always
for
it,
but
it
doesn't.
C
They
are
looking
to
monetize
and
become
profitable
they're,
not
they're,
not
exclusively
public
goods.
D
Yeah
like
otherwise,
I
don't
think
these
are,
would
invest
anyway
right.
But
if
someone
plans
to
make
try
to
make
money,
that
doesn't
mean
they
will
make
money
yeah
at
some
point,
they
are
like
again
like
I
consider
limo
it's
very
difficult
to
make
money,
but
let's,
let's
see
what
they
what
they
came
up
with,
what
they
come
up
with
but
did
did
we
have
some
reflection
on
like
what
we
actually
funded?
We
we
had
projects
where
we
put
money
out
right.
How
are
they
doing.
A
Yeah,
so
it's
linked
in
the
chat
here
sky
made
like
a
recap
just
last
week,
of
all
the
accenture's
investments.
So
you
can
check
that
out.
I
think
like
all
of
them
are
not
yet
liquid.
So
like
we
don't
really
know
how
we
fared
so.
A
I
I
think
the
thesis
here
is
that
oh
yeah
yeah
this
accepts
work.
I
think
the
the
thesis
here
in
general
is
that
yeah,
if
we
are
a
dao
of
people
who
are
in
the
ecosystem-
and
we
will
be
funding
things
that
we
think
is
needed,
because
we
are
in
this
ecosystem-
and
you
know,
maybe
that
will
give
us
access
to
yeah
things
that
actually
work
because
or
things
that
have
need
basically.
A
D
H
H
I
think
we
need
to
be
more
aggressive
on
on
like
making
money
and
or
we
have.
We
need
to
have
someone
driving
the
the
aggressiveness
of
making
money
a
little
bit
more
and
it
doesn't
mean
like
we
need
to
change
everything
we
do,
but
just
we're
not
keeping
up
with
with
others
and
and
crypto's
moving
fast.
I
don't
think
in
this
temple
we'll
make
money.
You
know.
A
So
it's
like
an
irrational
thing
to
do
yeah,
and
so
it's
a
very
difficult
thing
to
do
and
if
you
want,
if
you
are
doing
that,
you
want
to
have
like
you
want
to
maximize
your
your
returns
in
a
way,
and
I
think
you
know
I
I
want
to
take
something
like
carrot
right.
Carrot
has
been
in
sort
of
like
a
like
a
limbo
state.
I
mean
it's
making
progress,
but
it's
not
going
at
full
speed
and
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
idea,
carrot
and
yeah.
A
A
You
know
reaching
something
meaningful
with
carrot,
and
you
know
dicks
dow
could
support
that
textile
could
support
that
with,
like
you
know,
biz
dev,
with
with
marketing
with
you
know,
the
exploits
and
stuff
like
that,
and
also
you
know,
helping
to
build
their
governance,
helping
them
build
their
token
and
a
lot
of
like
collateral
things
that
are
very,
very
important
but
allow
the
team
specifically
to
focus
on
shipping
the
best
product,
and
I
think
I
mean
there
are
obviously
like
many
many
questions
to
this.
A
But
I
think
this
way
is
like
a
a
better
way
for
startups
to
succeed,
and
this
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
the
carrot.
Team
is
completely
separate
from
the
style,
they're
still
a
part
of
the
style.
Maybe
then
some
of
the
calls,
but
their
focus
is
strictly
on.
You
know,
building
carrots
and
you
know
same
for
anemia
same
for
other
sort
of
projects
and
yeah.
They
are
still
part
of
the
dig
style
family,
there's
a
there's,
a
token
allocation
and
and
yeah.
A
H
H
I
would
I
would
like
to
like
see
the
style
like
we've
been
recruiting
and
doing
a
lot
of
like
we
have.
We
have
some
good
teams
that
we
actually
can
build
stuff
right.
I
think
we
could
do
anything.
We
just
need
the
right
vision.
We
just
need
to
write
a
red
thread
here
and
know
why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
and
all
of
that
I
think
we're
losing
some
like
long-term
site
or
maybe
yeah.
Just
it's
a
little
bit
unknown.
What's
going
on.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
like
it'd,
be
great
to
have
more
market
feedback
right,
like
I
think
we're
building
a
bit
like
what
we
see
as
like
the
utopia
of
decentralization.
You
know
like
we
own
our
front,
end
and
stuff,
which
I
personally
think
is
really
awesome,
but
it
just
seems
that
the
market
really
couldn't
care
less
about
this
right,
like
it's,
I
think,
like
more
market
feedback
into
what
we're
building,
rather
than
just
you
know,
building
a
developer.
C
You
know
idealistic
utopia
which
you
know
I
love,
but
the
market.
Clearly
doesn't
you
know,
and
I
think
if
we
do
want
to
look
at
more
profitability,
etc,
we
we
do
have
to
find
something
that
the
market
values
and
that's.
I
guess
also
what
the
dxd
holders
are
raising
right
that
like
when
you
have
like
40
million
in
the
treasury.
You
don't
have
that
market
pressure
to
kind
of
go
and
find
something
that
really
works.
C
You
know
it's
like
kind
of
like
a
soft
cushion
behind
us,
which
of
course,
is
great
to
build
products
in
the
long
term,
but
kind
of
finding
out
how
we
can
get
more
market
feedback
and
yeah
building
stuff
people,
love
and
use
would
be
great,
you
know,
but
unfortunately
I
also
don't
have
the
solution
to
how
to
do
that.
Right
now,.
H
And
maybe
just
the
bear
market
just
affecting
all
of
us
and
affecting
the
developers
we
knew
I
mean
john-
has
been
talking
about
the
beer
market
for
a
while
right
so
and-
and
we
said
when
we
come
into
a
beer
market-
we'll
be
building
and
we'll
have
a
runway
like
and
now
we're
here
and
some
some
people
actually
panicking,
and
you
can
see
that,
like
the
reactions
is
way
different
right.
I
think
we
shouldn't
panic
right.
We
knew
this.
These
things
will
take
time.
We
knew
some
things
will
be
a
certain
way.
H
Geek
style
have
has
the
runway
because
we
plan
to
have
a
runway.
Let's
I
think
yeah.
We
shouldn't
pause
or
cancel
things
just
because
people
are
panicking,
but
we
should
definitely
think
try
to
complete
the
the
roadmap
of
what
the
style
is
doing
and
if
there's
a
plan
to
make
revenue
how
to
do
it
and
what
to
focus
on,
and
I
think
we
could
focus
on
governance,
2.0
and
like
other
projects.
At
the
same
time,
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
we
need
to
to
pass
another
project
but
yeah.
That's
that's
my
thoughts.
A
Yeah,
I
I
won't
say
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
people
are
panicking.
I
think
this
is
actually
good,
because
we
have
we
get
a
chance
to
like
stop
for
a
second
and
yeah
figure
out
like
like
strategy
stuff,
and
this.
I
A
A
A
About
infinite
hackathon
in
bogota,
do
you
want
do
you
have
any
updates.
E
Yeah,
I
think
the
only
update
right
now,
actually
something
I'm
working
on
today
or
right
now-
is
working
on
some
updated
copy
and
kind
of
gonna
get
the
wireframe
to
design
and
the
dev
side
to
get
rolling
on
that.
I
don't
think
there's
much
beyond
what
we
shared.
Last
week,
we
had
a
good
productive
call
last
wednesday
that
kind
of
lined
everyone
up.
E
I
think
I
don't
know
if
gusto
is
here,
but
I
think
there
was
an
invoice
shared
for
the
hotel
a
bit
of
a
discussion
on
the
wi-fi
costs
that
seemed
a
little
bit
unnecessary.
But
beyond
that,
I
don't
think
anything
major
since
last
wednesday.
E
E
Yeah
so
the
first
thing
we're
doing
is
prioritizing
coorg's.
We
updated
our
pitch
deck
and
are
kind
of
doing
a
little
bit
of
outreach.
If
we
can
get
a
sufficient
group
of
coorgs
by,
I
think,
must
be
august
24th.
Maybe
that
rings
the
bell.
I'd
have
to
check
on
that.
E
But
if
we
have
a
sufficient
group
of
korg's,
ignoring
participants
and
those
that
have
signed
up
by
that
next
date,
we'll
move
forward
with
that
payment
and
then
from
there
leverage
our
co-works
and
their
communities
to
kind
of
get
a
base
of
participants
and
then
whatever
that
next
cutoff
day,
I
think
off
the
top.
My
head,
that's
september,
that
must
be
september
14th
or
something
that
would
be
kind
of
the
cut
off
like
mid
to
late
september
on
whether
or
not
we
make
that
final
deposit.
A
But
yeah,
I
guess
like
another
topic,
is
specifically
mimi,
but
I
guess
we
can
continue
some
of
the
discussions
that
are
happening
in
the
in
the
forums
and
yeah
we're
a
bit
over
time.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
guess
have
a
great
rest
of
the
week
and
yeah
see
you.