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From YouTube: DXgov Weekly Gathering [2022-11-30]
Description
00:02 Welcome and Agenda
02:00 Mainnet roundup
07:00 Gnosis Chain roundup
10:00 ENS DAO Update - ENS endowment fund manager selection
19:30 Contributor payments and a fake cowswap
24:16 Proposal to upgrade the DXD Token Model
44:42 Operations Guild H1 2023 Budget Proposal [Draft]
A
We
have
yeah
we'll
do
the
proposal
Roundup
there.
You
can
kind
of
see
some
mainnet
and
nurses
chain
proposals
there
and
then
a
couple
discussion
items
I
want
to
do
a
quick
rundown
of
the
ens
Dow
update.
It
was
kind
of
a
very
busy
week
Indiana
they
had
a
very
exciting
I,
guess:
exciting
proposal
on
an
endowment
fund
manager
there,
a
little
discussion
on
contributor
payments
and
a
fake
Cal
swap
discussion
which
we'll
get
into
and
then
yeah.
A
A
It's
been
up
in
the
Forum
I
think
for
almost
two
weeks
about
12
days
there
and
there
have
been
some
updates
there,
so
just
want
to
see
if
there's
any
other
final
questions
before
trying
to
yeah
move
forward
with
that
as
part
of
The
Proposal,
it
is
the
there
is
the
to
upgrade
the
dxt
contract
so
yeah
and
then
the
last
thing
two
is
also
go
over
the
operations
Guild
H1
2022
2023
budget
proposal.
So
this
includes
this
post
in
the
form
a
couple
days
ago.
A
Squad
and
then
also
like
a
legal
component
kind
of
re-kicking
that
often
so
we'll
get
into
the
specifics
on
that
and
hopefully
that'll
be
kind
of
the
first
one
of
a
couple
of
the
different
guilds
that
are
submitting
their
budgets
over
the
next
week
or
two
here
so
yeah.
A
Let's
start
with
the
proposal
Roundup
and
really
like
three
types
of
proposals
here
you
can
see
so
maybe
one,
let's
start
with
this,
registered
new
contribution
reward
from
Arc,
and
so
this
was
submitted
by
Adam,
and
this
was
discussion
last
week
elsewhere
on
a
previous
one,
so
I
guess
Adam
to
confirm
you
know
this
is
based
on
the
Dow
Stacks
Arc
project,
so
it's
exact
same
contribute,
contribute
reward
scheme
that
was
previously
that
previously
been
used,
except
for
it
just
blocked
the
element
to
submit
proposals
with
multiple
periods-
and
this
was
yeah
submitted
a
couple
days
ago
through
the
same
system,
so
it'll
be
actually
I
think
it
was
last
week.
A
So
it's
got
11
more
days
to
be
voted
on,
but
yeah
Adam,
anything
in
particular
here
to
add
or
deny
or
confirm
what
I
was
saying.
B
A
Anyone
else
having
problems
with
audio,
are
you
all
able
to
hear
my
lovely,
smooth
pruning
voice?
Okay,
good
awesome,
any
any
other
thoughts
on
this
will
be
as
I
said:
it'll
be
another
11
days,
so
we'll
Circle
back
on
on
it
next
week.
It's
already
has
a
vote
for
by
d-labs
here
in
the
affirmative.
A
And
then
yeah
the
two
other
proposals,
maybe
start
with
this
cow.
Stop
order
die
DxD,
so
there's
two
of
these
in
here.
So
this
is
basically
just
trying
to
do
the
dxt
purchases
through
using
stable
coins,
as
opposed
to
Heath.
It's
a
little
bit
trickier
on
on
mainnet
to
do
that,
because
you
have
to
use
this
multi-call
scheme
that
takes
16
days
to
do
so.
These
are
two
orders
that
are
in
there
that
will
be
yeah
in
there
for
a
week
here.
A
I
guess
this
first
one
here
is
finishing
eight
days
there
so
yeah
and
then
the
third
set
of
proposals
are
a
series
of
dxt
vesting
payout
contracts.
So
these
are
I.
Think
a
sky
has
one
proposal
that
combines
I
think
this
is
July.
2021
and
October
I
mean
sorry
December
2021
and
this
yeah
I
can't
remember
the
exact
the
starting
date
of
November
21,
which
is
I.
Think
like
a
an
average
of
that
date
and
then
a.
C
Lot
of
average,
but
it's
the
I,
will
if
we
do
two
month,
proposals
you're
supposed
just
started
from
the
beginning
of
the
proposal.
Period
And
so
November
1st
is
the
is
the
beginning
of
the
of
the
last
period.
So
it's
actually
like
Dave
did
it's.
It's
delaying
yeah
delaying
the
first
two
to
the
last
one.
Basically
yeah,
it's
easier
to.
C
A
It
yeah,
and
these
were
enabled
or
empowered
I
think,
with
the
help
of
Ali,
who
does
a
great
job
of
tracking
all
this
stuff
and
we've
been
kind
of
got
a
better
system
for
that,
and
so
coordinating
with
her
on
that.
If
you're
looking
to
get
your
DHD
payments,
there
there's
also
ways
that
people
are
doing
in
terms
of
people
who
do
not
use
vesting
contracts
that
are
just
getting
them
from
the
Dow
itself
once
they
are
vested
themselves
and
we
can
kind
of
help
out
with
the
calculation
there.
A
Some
people
there's
a
concern
about
like
when
you're
doing
compensation
for
the
tax
year,
so
I
can
imagine
that
some
maybe
are
coming
in
January
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
for
for
payments
there.
So
maybe
something
to
think
about
if
you're
a
contributor
and
want
to
get
your
dxt
vesting
contracts
set
up,
hopefully
eventually
with
Davi.
We'll
have
this
more
automated.
A
There
was
an
ens
proposal
over
the
week
there
too,
so
that
passed
there,
but
it's
already
been
executed.
A
D
A
With
the
mainnet,
but
I
actually
cleared
cache
before
that,
and
it's
still
still
there
but
yeah
so
knows,
you're
staying
actually
a
little
bit
quieter.
This
time
we
have
a
cow
swap
with
DxD
order.
I
think
we
have
two
there.
A
One
is
pending
boost
here
and
then
we
have
a
die
payout
for
Federico,
that
is
for
actually
for
the
month
of
May
there
that
he
previously
had,
and
then
there
is
Milton
contributor
proposal
there
who's
doing
some
work
on
the
Duke
scrapbook
for
DX
gov,
especially
I'm,
like
kind
of
taking
more
on
the
smart
contract
area,
and
then
there
is
a
yeah
Violet.
There's
a
couple.
Violet
and
Adam
are
in
the
boosting
stage.
Violet
just
needs
someone
to
push
it
over
the
line
there,
whereas
Adam
will
Adams
has
to
wait.
B
A
And
yeah,
those
are
the
proposals
on
gnosis
chain.
I,
wasn't
sure
if
there
were
any
other
thoughts
comments
on
the
live
proposals
out.
B
B
D
C
B
A
E
A
Cool
anyway
interesting
note,
there
Adam,
I,
assume
you'll
want
a
different.
A
Awesome
and
then
moving
on
to
discussion
items
first,
just
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
the
ens
endowment
fund
manager,
selection.
So
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
been
following
this.
We
gave
an
update
on
it
on
this
call
on
this
call.
Last
week,
so
ens
is
I've
been
looking
for
someone
to
help
out
with
their.
F
A
So
this
has
been
a
pretty
elaborate
process
in
terms
of
having
an
RFP
or
request
for
a
proposal
trying
to
get
all
the
different
managers
to
submit
plans
to
ens.
Then
the
ens,
like
governance,
stewards,
the
Dow
government
Steward
a
little
bit
down
to
a
couple
different
choices,
and
then
there
were
four
sorry,
three
different
choices
that
they
will
build
it
down
to,
and
then
they
put
it
for
a
snapshot.
Vote
amongst
those
and.
B
A
It's
itself
a
pretty
interesting
snapshot.
Vote
I.
Think
we'll
have
yeah
the
link
right
here,
because
the
vote
options
were
were
the
three
options
and
then
they
were
also
none
of
the
above
right.
So
you
could
say,
if
you
don't
think
ens
should
have
any
endowment
manager,
any
fund
manager
kind
of
looking
after
the
treasure
you
could
vote
none
of
the
above.
The
other
tricky
thing
or
interesting
thing
about
this
was
it
was
ranked
Choice
voting
so.
C
A
Of
your
ranking
there,
so
this
actually
made
it
very
difficult
to
be
able
to
determine
who
actually
won
or
who
was
winning
at
the
time
of
that,
because
you
know
it
wasn't,
you
could
have
someone
who
voted
none
of
the
above,
but
that
wasn't
the
important
one.
The
important
one
was
who
they
voted.
Second,
so
the
final
winner
was
Copart
key,
who
those
industac
Community
will
probably
be
aware
of.
We've
talked
to
them
about
doing
some
things
with
the
geek
style
Treasury
ourselves,
and
they
wanted
like
a
very,
very
close
race.
A
None
of
the
above
was
actually
like
the
second
place,
and
then
avant-garde
was
third
and
then
llama
was
was
fourth
and
the
way
that
it
was
the
way
that
the
it
works
is.
Basically
when
you
are
fourth,
you
are
like
eliminated
from
the
voting
and
then
your
second
all
of
those
people
who
voted
the
fourth
place
person
first,
their
votes
are
then
split
amongst
the
first
three,
and
then
that
happens
again
at
third.
A
Whoever
is
in
third
in
that
place
is
like
eliminated
and
then
the
votes
of
those
people,
the
the
third
and
fourth
votes
or
the
second.
Third
report:
votes
of
those
people
are
then
distributed
to
the
first
two
and
then
the
final
one
is
Whoever
has
the
votes
from
that
so
yeah
it
was
a
long
vote,
and
so
DX
style,
of
course,
has
a
forty
six
thousand
dollars
for
sorry.
46
000
ens
that
are
delegated
to
KD
4K
Fork
is
about
1500
ens
itself
too.
A
So
there
was
about
47.5
K
ens,
that
candy
Fork
voted
with
Park
key
number
one
and
then
Avant
card
number,
two
llama
three
and
none
of
the
above
four
that
was
after
Consulting
on
this
call,
and
there
was
also
a
poll
in
the
Dow
talk
on
the
the
process
there
and
yeah.
So
anyway,
that
was
kind
of
an
interesting
development.
A
D
A
And
you
know:
do
you
need
to
have
this
like
professionalization
of
it,
which
I
thought
was
interesting?
I
think
style
has
has
done
a
you
know.
It's
been
a
shunning
example
in
some
of
the
treasury
stuff,
it's
done
and
I.
Think
ens
style
is
also
pushing
forward
this
and
wanting
to
have
more
non-custodial
treasury
management
and
that
that
was
some
of
the
discussion
there.
A
There
was
also
just
got
a
lot
of
discussion
on
the
actual
voting
of
this,
both
that
it
was
ranked
Choice
voting,
which
was
confusing
kind
of
for
people
to
follow
along
and
there's
also
kind
of
strategic,
in
terms
of
who
you,
who
you
voted
for
and
then
also
what
happens
with
a
lot
of
these
public
big
votes
is
how
the
votes
play
out
end
up
in
influencing
how
later
people
kind
of
vote
on
that
so
like
because
you
come
at
the
beginning,
you
can
see,
hear
what
everyone
votes
for
that
ends
up
having
an
effect
on
people
voting.
A
So
that's
something
that
people
were
talking
about
there
and
yeah.
So
anyway,
that
was
like
an
interesting
thing.
There
I
don't
know
if
anyone
had
any
questions
or
comments
on
that.
C
Yeah
I
was
following
it
and
yeah
I
talked
with
Chris
about
a
little
bit,
but
the
interestingly,
the
two
biggest
voters
voted.
None
of
the
above
I
think
that
there
is
still
so.
This
is
just
a
signal
row
right
right,
so
this
doesn't
actually
action
any
movement
of
money.
It
doesn't
have
all
of
the
exact
details
on
how
the
actual
treasury
management
will
progress,
like.
C
Obviously
the
proposals
are
very
are
detailed,
but
but
they
don't
have
all
the
details
and
the
total
size,
I
guess
some
one
of
the
things
was
people
wanted
to
start
smaller
and
like
just
like
DX
Dow.
We
always
want
to
start
smaller
and
test
some
stuff,
and
then
we
could
always
ramp
up.
But
this
was
like
a
signal
proposal
for,
like
a
whole
big
chunk
of
the
treasury,
and
some
people
just
probably
voted
against
it,
because
that's
like
all
or
nothing
and
like
All
or
Nothing,
is
scary
in
in
blockchain
Dow
World.
C
Now
the
question
is
going
to
be,
and
it's
it's
awesome
that
karpatke
I
think
at
least
one
this
signal
proposal,
but
now
the
steps
on
how
they
Implement,
like
actual
strategies,
how
they
do
things
in
hope.
Some
people
really
want
fully
non-custodial.
C
Think
it's
a
lot
of
the
same
topics
that
were
raised
when,
when
DX
Dow
talked
to
karpaki
about
a
similar
idea-
and
so
this
especially
on
like
a
bigger
stage,
is
gonna,
is
gonna,
be
a
good
lesson
for
how
this
thing
can
move
forward
and
then
at
some
point,
there's
going
to
be
depending
on
what
the
actions
are,
that
move
forward,
there's
going
to
be
more
proposals
that
actually
have
to
move
the
money
and
how
much
money
and
all
that
into
certain
places,
whether
that's
zodiac,
multi-cigs
or
safes
or
whatever,
and
there's
going
to
be
additional
discussion
when
those
actual
proposals
that
move
money
happen.
C
B
A
D
A
Eth
that
they're,
initially
using
they'll,
create
a
one-to-one
multi-sig,
that's
controlled
by
the
Dow
and
then
they'll
use
the
Zodiac
roll
for
that
and
yeah.
It's
actually
pretty
specific
I
think
in
terms
of
like
what
and
who
can,
control
that
and
Nick
is
a
pretty
a
very
competent
engineer
too.
So
I
kind
of
trust
him
on
this,
so
yeah
I
think
this
is
to
me.
This
is
actually
like
the
first
example
of
anyone.
A
C
A
So
it
says
on
a
regular:
it
will
sweep
Ethan
to
the
multi-sig,
convert
enough
usdc
or
die
to
top
up
the
Dow's
account
to
16
million
USD
yeah
anyway.
Let's
do
it.
We
can
kind
of
dive
into
this.
This
is
just
like
a
discussion
here,
so
maybe
we
can
talk
offline
about
or
anyone
else,
who's
interested
in
the
the
NFL
stuff.
A
Yeah
and
then
just
another
thing,
you
know
they
did
have
an
ens
small
grants
vote
yesterday,
and
so
for
that,
that's
something
that
happens
every
month.
The
top
five
winners
get
one
eth
each
so
Mimi
I
think
has
won
that
before.
But
if
you
have
anyone
that
is
like
participating
in
that
make
sure
and
reach
out
and
I
can
vote
on
that
I
try
to
go
through
the
ones
that
pick
out
the
ones
that
are
most
interesting
or
that
I've
kind
of
known
before
so
like
pre-domain,
you
mean,
oh,
they
didn't.
A
They
got
a
bigger
Grant
though
I
can't
remember.
This
is
the
small
grants,
but
pre-domain
I
did
vote
for
that.
So
maybe
someone
there.
A
Yeah
and
then
next
discussion,
item
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
An
unfortunate
situation
happened
one
of
the
contributors
we
can
kind
of
maybe
talk
more
specific
if
we
need
to
but
I
guess,
the
tldr
is
after
receiving
a
payment
from
DX,
Dao
I
believe
on
gnosis
chain
and
then
I
think
it
was
an
x-di
and
wanting
to
convert
this
into
usdc
or
another
currency
for
the
off
ramp.
A
The
contributor,
Googled
cow
Swap
and
the
Top
Choice
on
Cal
swap
is
actually
not
Cal,
swap
it's
a
different
one.
This
is
I,
think
it's
a
Google
ad,
but
it's
a
scam,
basically
by
Cal
swap,
and
so
this
contributor
put
all
their
funds
in
to
that
and
then
kind
of
noticed
quickly
after
that
that
they
were
gone,
and
so
this
Twitter
basically
16
000
XI
that
was
lost
through
this
way
through
the
castle
crop
scam
there.
A
So
just
wanted
to
kind
of
open
the
discussion
here
on
kind
of
what
to
do.
There
is
some
precedent
for
this.
About
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
someone
had
a
wallet
that
was
compromised
and
it
was
I
think
for
a
payment
for
like
3,
500,
xdi
or
something
like
that,
and
that
was
recouped
by
the
Dow
itself.
A
16
000
is
a
bit
higher
number
for
that
and
in
terms
of
like
setting
a
precedent,
for
you
know,
people
getting
hacked
and
then
being
able
to
recruit
things
from
the
Dow.
There
is
something
there
too,
so
I
don't
know.
If
maybe
we
want
to
have
there's
like
a
percentage
number
that
in
terms
of
like
reimbursement
or
recouping
those
losses
there
and
I
know
this
like
specifically
because
it
happens
to
cow,
swap
that
that's
like
something
that
I've
heard
from
other
people.
D
A
Especially
like
the
Google
thing,
there
always
again,
of
course,
a
reminder
to
make
sure
you're,
verifying
all
urls
and
and
everything
with
you're
doing
that,
but
yeah
happy
to
talk
more
specifically
offline
or
someone
wants
to
specifically
say
something
here.
But
maybe
you
just
wanted
to
gauge
some
reaction
from
from
y'all
now.
D
From
my
side,
these
things
can
happen,
even
if
you
are
a
new
contributor
on
DXL,
so
yeah,
let's
see
definitely
there
are
I
think
the
Excel
should
help
once
we
understand
the
What.
What
happened
the
transaction
with
me
and
I
could
see
that
the
yeah
also
we
should
use
swapper
for
that,
like
I,
could
see
how
the
attack
was.
How
does
that
happen?
Remember
I
think
it
happened
like
a
few
weeks
ago,
right
so
also
in
Asian.
Today's
we
should
highlight
these
attacks,
or
these.
E
D
Actually,
this
attackers
is
this
in
attack
where
you
share
malicious,
URL
and
being
able
to
appear
on
gold.
So,
let's
eye
it
on
the
on
the
on
the
country
on
the
contribute
or
documents,
or
they
try
to
communicate
how
this
attack
can
happen
and
try
to
remember
this,
so
we
don't
see
it
happening
again
for
now.
I
think
this
should
be
compensated,
maybe
it's
in
entirely
and
if
not
with
a
very
small
penalty
but
yeah
this
spy.
My
take
on
this,
let's
make
sure
that
we
are
going.
A
Just
some
comments
in
the
chat
or
a
lot
of
comments
in
the
chat,
as
you
said,
use
swapper
you
can
get
Cal
swap
Fair
also
agree.
D
A
A
One
of
the
things
I
really
do
like
about
swapper
is:
it
is
just
s-w-a-p-r
dot
eth
boom
or
like
dot,
limo
and
I
feel
like
very
confident
with
that
I
guess
that
limo
is
another
thing
to
think
about,
but
yeah
being
vigilant
there
yeah
any
other
thoughts
on
this
I.
A
A
Cool
okay:
next
up
on
the
discussion
items
is
proposal
to
upgrade
DC
token
model.
So
this
has
been
up
yes,
I
said
the
output
of
the
dxt
token.
B
A
Group
is
we
had
this
draft
up
at
the
end
of
the
week
before
Thanksgiving
or
I
guess
two
weeks
ago.
This
is
about
12
days
there
and
there's
been
some
discussion.
Some
little
little
changes
here
there,
but
I
I
think
it's
ready
to
be
submitted
to
a
vote
on
a
proposal
or
sorry
to
be
submitted
as
a
a
formal.
C
A
Dxt
snapshot
we'll
do
mainnet
we'll
do
gnosis
chain
if
you're,
not
overtime
but
yeah.
So
we'll
do
that
and
hoping
yeah
to
get
that
out
today.
So
I
wanted
to
open
up
any
other
kind
of
comments
in
there
and
feedback.
You
know
just
as
a
tldr
of
what
it
really
does
is
kind
of
one.
It
establishes
four
Tools
in
DxD
monetary
policy
framework.
Actually,
so
back
up.
Sorry,
one
big
thing
it
kind
of
does
is
it
gets
the
tldr?
A
A
In
a
way
there,
and
then
there's
kind
of
the
implementation
of
that
through
this
monetary
policy
framework,
that's
dictated
by
the
DC
monetary
policy
committee
and
then
the
last
element
that
I
also
think
is
important
is
because
this,
this
kind
of
relationship
in
terms
of
geek
style
and
and
DxD
is
changing
to
kind
of
re-affirm
the
social
contract
in
terms
of
fun
development
for
decentralization.
So
that's
part
of
it
there
with
the
six
percent
commitment
there
and
then
yeah.
The
implementation
of
this.
This
is
kind
of.
A
Maybe
the
key
Point
here
to
think
about
is
that
it
would
oh
that
just
made
an
edit
of
that
and
that
needs
that
has
a
typo,
that's
70
of
nav,
so
that
this
is
this
dxdma
ratio.
So
basically
the
dxt
circulating
market
cap
divided
by
the
treasury,
committing
geek
style
to
buy
DxD.
If
DxD
is
trading
below
70
of
that
there
also
making
deep
style
a
more
active
liquidity
provider.
Here,
you
can
see
the
two
the
if
there
is
a
step-by-step
process
of
increasing
liquidity
on
swapper.
A
It
does
not
specify
whether
this
is
in
dosage
chain
or
mainnet
or
but
I.
Think,
probably
we
can
think
about
both
the
mainnet
is
probably
the
bigger
bigger
priority,
and
then
it
has
some
yeah
commitments
to
inverse
bonds,
which
was
kind
of
a
one
of
the
discussions
happening
late
in
this
and.
A
Last
thing
is
mentioned
earlier:
it
would
actually
commit
to
upgrading
the
DxD
token
contract
so
right
now,
the
DxD
contract
is
actually
just
the
bonding
curve
contract
that
is
controlled
by
the
Dow.
But
it
also
has
the
2500
eth
in
it
from
the
buyback
reserve,
and
it
also
has
a
couple
other
random
things
that
were
sent
to
the
buyback
curve.
So
it
would
upgrade
that
there,
the
last
kind
of
couple
comments,
I
guess
were
made
sorry.
A
Whatever
yeah
I
made
a
couple
changes
yesterday,
so
kind
of
clarified
some
stuff
on
that
on
the
nav
calculation
and
how
that
was
written
before
added
one
million
two-year
set
of
inverse
bonds
at
100
as
to
the
kind
of
the
yeah
commitment
by
Molotov
and
C
man
and
then
adjust
the
numbers
on
the
Deep
style
liquidity
section
just
to
make
it
a
little
bit
set
more
there
and
yeah
and
then
yeah
just
kind
of
really
further
Define
the
the
the
entity
and
Tracey
Treasury,
the
DxD
nav
ratio
and
the
treasury
nav.
A
The
wording
on
that
and
then
yeah.
Just
the
some
of
the
comments.
More
recently
have
kind
of
more
focused
on
execution
of
this,
which
I
think
is
also
important.
We
have
a
bunch
of
different
options.
We
kind
of
maybe
talk
about
that
that
there
and
then
the
other
discussion
I'm
just
reading
it
here
is,
would
like
to
know
from
c-man
3,
which
is
another
discussion
I'd
like
to
know
why
there
is
a
spending
limit
on
the
inverse
bonds.
So
this
is
not
a
spending
limit.
It's
basically
like
a
floor.
A
It's
saying,
geek
style
is
committed
to
issuing
these,
but
but
obviously
could
issue
those
further
and
in
the
in
the
proposal,
like
the
way
that
the
structure
would
be
set
up.
Is
the
dxt
monetary
policy
committee
is
coming
up
with
what
inverse
bonds
to
issue?
But
since
we
don't
have
that
structure
set
up
now,
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
come
up
with
a
lot
of
specifics
on
what
those
inverse
bonds
might
look
like.
A
It's
basically
just
like
establish
some
commitment
until
the
dxt
monetary
policy
committee,
which
will
have
like
a
you,
know,
more
formal
process
for
coming
up
this
more
integrated
with
like
DHT
holders,
in
terms
of
what
they're
thinking
of
they'll
be
able
to
come
up
with
specifics
on
potentially
how
to
expand
it.
There
yeah,
it
kind
of
you
know
the
way
that
I
think
that
Scott
was
saying
to
operates
a
lot
of
ways.
A
We
kind
of
like
want
to
slowly
into
our
way
into
this
and
I
think
these
inverse
bonds
are
like
really
actually
an
interesting
idea
for
how
it
will
affect
the
the
market,
and
so
with
all
the
Dynamics
that
I
think
just
kind
of
slowly
working
our
way
into
that.
B
A
Yeah
and
as
I
said,
the
discussion
on
the
execution,
there's
Mesa,
there's
cow,
swap
on
Main
net
house
up
on
a
nurses
chain,
there's
maybe
like
a
couple
other
things,
but
there's
urine,
there's
also
this
something
from
mimic.
That
is
interesting
that
we
may
be
able
to
use
too
I.
A
Think
it's
all
very
important,
but
I
don't
think
that
that
is
required
for
this
to
move
forward
in
terms
of
like
the
proposal
for
this,
the
execution
of
it
will
likely
require
some
more
specifics
on
that,
and
you
know,
I
was
talking
to
Dave
before
the
call
it's
like
in
a
d
style
is
already
purchased.
A
15
000
DxD
in
a
trustless
manner,
so,
like
I,
think
it's
pretty
confident
that
if
Geeks
out
puts
out
this
signal
proposal
and
approves
this
model
that
like
it
will
follow
through
on
that
and
be
able
to
purchase
the
DxD,
you
know
in
whatever
way
it
can
in
a
trustless
manner,
just
as
it's
kind
of
proven.
It's
done
over
the
last
18
months.
C
Chris,
the
the
spreadsheet
that
you
had
attached,
like
the
final
link
out
to
our
spreadsheet,
which
yeah
that
goes
through
a
path
of
on
the
actual
dashboard
yeah
that
thing,
if
you
continue
and
I
think
Dave,
maybe
you
were
looking
at
this
too.
If
you
continued
that
down
like
all
the
way,
I
guess
it's
like
the
hypothetical
end
state
of
where
you
could
end
up
with
the
treasury,
if
you
keep
the
seventy
percent,
is
that
do
you
think?
C
Do
you
see
that
as
a
possibility
or
is
like
very
unlikely
or
if
that,
if
that
got
to
that
state-
and
you
know
almost
all
the
DxD
was
bought
back-
it
leaves
the
treasure
yeah,
because
it's
compounding
at
70
I
guess
is
that
right,
Dave
that
it
could
leave
the
treasury
at
almost
nothing.
Is
that
very
unlikely
is?
How
do
you
think
about
that?
Yeah.
A
B
A
That
you
do
two
things:
one
you
take
out
that
DxD
off
of
the
market
and
two
you
decrease
the
value
of
the
treasure
right.
So
the
DHD,
that's
off
the
market
that
changes
the
numerator
in
the
DxD
nav
ratio,
which
is
the
DxD
circulating
market
cap.
So
you
change
the
numerator
there
and
then
changing
the
treasury
value
changes
that
there,
like
each
time,
you're
doing
that
you're
actually
increasing
that
number
a
bit,
because
when
you're
buying
DxD
you're
buying
it
at
below
Book
value.
A
So
that's
why
you
can
see
here
if
we're
using
this
kind
of
one
DxD
share
of
of
Treasury
here
that
if
there
were
3000
DxD
bought
at
the
current
70
of
Treasury
nav,
which
is
this
right
here.
This
may
not
include
eth
numbers
that
have
changed
like
last
12
hours
or
something
but
yeah
you
would
have.
It
would
be
889.
So
that
would
mean
that
if
deeked
out
purchased
3000
DxD
at
889,
what
would
that
do
to
the
DxD
circulating
market
cap
and
the
treasury
Supply?
A
So
we
can
see
here
it
would
decrease
the
circumfly
by
3
000,
pretty
simple,
and
then
it
would
decrease
the
treasury
value
by
like
almost
two
million
dollars
like
1.9,
but
as
a
DxD
holder
like
this
is
good
for
you,
because
your
value
goes
up
right,
and
so
you
can
see
if
we
just
run
this
scenario
out
what
if
people
just
keep
selling
at
that
70
right.
A
So
each
time
this
is
happening,
the
the
treasury
is
kind
of
going
down
which
affects
product
development
right
which
isn't
good
or
funding
for
that,
but
the
weak,
the
share
of
the
treasury
is,
is
going
up
too.
So,
as
a
DSD
holder,
you're,
actually
getting
like
like
more
value
there
and
you
think
of
who
the
dxt
holders
are
a
lot
of
the
DC
holders.
A
A
You
know
a
lot:
that's
like
80
85
of
the
circulating,
Supply
and
I.
Guess
like
that,
so
I'd
say
two
things
in
terms
of
like
this
is
a
concern
so
one
every
time
a
DxD
holder
is
selling
at
70.
It
means
that
they
are
like
less
optimistic
about
being
able
to
like
reap
a
value
from
txt
and
geek
style.
So
that's
like
a
signal
that
is
important
for
Zeke
Stout.
To
have
in
terms
of
like
is
it
Building
Products
is?
Is
it
building
the
right
products?
A
Is
it
investing
like
the
right
things
so
like
when
people
are
at
70
if
people
are
selling
a
lot
at
70,
that's
a
way
if
they're
trying
to
exit
the
system
and
I
think
it
should
be
a
signal
to
deep
down
of
like
how
can
we
make
sure
we
try
to
like
keep
these
people
into
the
system
and
actually
get
them
like
a
higher
return
on
that
and
then
the
second
thing
is:
it
makes
sense
as
a
dxt
holder,
though,
to
hold
while
others
sell
at
70
right.
A
So
you
can
see
here
that
as
a
DxD
holder,
you
don't
need
to
do
anything.
You
don't
even
need
to
rely
on
dstao
to
produce
additional
Revenue
if
people
are
selling
at
70.
That's
like
automatically
increasing
your
dxc
value
because
it's
decreasing
circulating
Supply
and
it's
also
decreasing
the
treasury,
but
it's
decreasing
the
circulating
Supply
by
more
amount.
So
your
DHT
share
of
the
treasury
is
actually
growing.
B
A
That
itself
is
an
incentive
to
hold,
and
then
of
course,
like
the
last
thing,
I
would
say
sorry
just
one
more
to
that
is.
This
is
the
kind
of
point
of
inverse
bonds
is.
This
is
a
way
to
try
to
try
to
make
a
market
for
people
that
want
to
like
exit
at
a
higher
amount,
but
willing
to
like
lock
up
their
DxD,
for
that
which
again
is
kind
of
like
a
way
of
an
investment
there.
A
Yeah,
so
this
would
not
include
txt
right
here,
so
this
is
this:
is
the
treasury,
Valley
xdxt
I,
don't
think
it's
very
helpful
to
look
at
the
DxD
in
the
treasury
as
any
type
of
value,
so
I
would
never
count
that
actually,
as
part
of
the
treasury
value
and
actually,
if
you
look
at
in
The
Proposal,
the
actual
the
I.
A
Yeah,
it
would
I
mean
so
it's
decreasing
the
circulating
market
supply.
Yes,
it's
going
to
the
geek
Styles
treasury,
but
to
me,
like
I,
think
that
you're
looking
to
treasury
value,
it's
only
non-dhd
assets,
I'm
like
de-style,
which
has
so
much
dxt
because
it
minted,
like
100
000
in
the
initial
stages
that
it's
not
so
much
that
there
needs
to
be
even
like
more
dxt,
it's
more
to
me
about
like
what
dstat
what
DxD
is
outside
of
digs
down
like
that's
the
circulating
Supply.
A
Yeah
and
just
Dave's
incompetence
antiques
down
delivering
good
products
like
I
think
this
is
especially
true
music
about,
like
we
get
into
governance,
2.0
and
people
wanting
to
stake
their
DxD
for
more
governance
power,
that's
going
to
be
them,
locking
it
up
there
for
hopeful,
because
it's
going
to
be
like
a
higher
return
on
it.
The
inverse
bonds
are
basically
a
way
to
like
unlock
some
of
that
nav
value.
A
Some
of
that
there
without,
like
you,
know,
draining
kind
of
the
treasury
in
this
way
and
yeah
I
think
all
of
those
are
in
are
trying
to
basically
create
the
right
incentive
mechanisms
to
enable
like
great
products
being
built
that
are
decentralized
but
also
kind
of
make,
make
some
return
for
geeks
now
and
then
in
return
for
txt
Cores.
A
A
A
So
this
is
I
think
we're
still
kind
of
setting
this
out
so
I
think
the
six
percent
is
kind
of
more
of
like
a
ballpark
figure
there
and
is
not
necessarily
going
to
be
very
rigid
for
right
now,
especially
doing
these
kind
of
like
budgets
there,
and
it
changes
a
lot
of
course
for
like
the
treasury,
like
the
price
of
e
changes,
so
much
that
would
change
your
funding
for
the
whole
year,
because
the
price
of
ease
like
went
up
like
a
week
before
you
were
doing
like
the
proposal
there.
A
So
I
I
think,
like
it's
really
hard
to
commit
to
a
specific
number
on
this
because
of
that.
But
I
I
kind
of
just
want
to
have
like
the
structure
of
committing
to
that.
And
then
an
initial
stage
is
kind
of
like
just
a
shelling
point
for
us.
But
then
maybe
long
term,
there's
a
way
to
like
Harden
that
into
a
more
like
specific
mandate,
but
like
I,
don't
think
we're
there.
Yet,
in
terms
of
like
coming
up
with
the
process
to
manage
that.
A
Yeah
I
do
yeah
David
saying,
makes
pressure
redeem
before
the
2023
budget,
even
higher
I
think
this
is
is
true
and
kind
of,
like
you
know,
the
the
Dynamics
that
are
going
on
here,
geek
style,
is
doing
a
lot
of
things.
Moving
forward,
like
a
new
budget,
he's
going
to
be
funding
that
so,
if
you
pre-load
the
budget
there
that
will
affect
the
value
of
the
treasury,
because
it's
in
the
guilt
itself,
something
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
about
now,
would
be.
A
Maybe
we
should
include
the
treasury
of
the
guilds
themselves
in
this.
It
probably
would
be
pretty
minimal,
but
something
to
think
about
I.
Guess
it's
not
really
owned
by
Jake
Stout,
but
specifically
to
your
question
Dave
about
like
the
2023
budget
and
affecting
NIV
in
those
proposals.
They
are
only
doing
three
months
of
so
you're
getting
approval
for
like
the
whole
six
months,
but
you're
actually
only
getting
it
you're,
sending
only
the
first
three
months
of
that.
A
A
A
A
F
Yeah
I
mean
I,
mean
this
function
heavily,
is
dependent
on
the
inter
intervals
of
updating
the
70
nav
price
right.
It's
like
here,
you're
assuming
we
updated
every
1,
000
dxt
sold
the
nav
is
updated
right,
but
in
reality
right
now,
we're
like
at
two
weeks
and
like
I
think
that's
like
really
the
biggest
variable
like.
F
If
you
were
to
do
500
period,
cells
or
larger,
it
really
changes
the
whole
equation
right,
because
it's
that
30
premium
that
goes
to
the
dial
and
is
distributed
among
the
XD
holders,
and
if
you
update
it
dynamically,
ultimately
the
Dow
would
yeah
it
would
remain.
Dxt
holders
would
get
more
out
of
it.
Theoretically,
if
it's
like
per
dxt
amount,
so
I
think
that's
like
the
biggest
variable
and
right
now,
I
think
it's
like
it
says
like
at
least
bi-weekly.
F
A
Yeah
and
I
liked
what
you
just
said:
there
like
the
30
premium,
that's
distributed
DxD
holders
because,
like
that's,
what's
happening
each
time
right,
someone's
buying
selling
it
for
70.
That
means
that
30
is
like
almost
like
a
like
a
like
a
profit,
and
that
is
basically
being
distributed
to
the
remaining
dxt
holders
that
are
out
there
and
yeah.
Just
talking
about
the
automation
of
the
in
a
nav
and
doing
the
BuyBacks,
which
Dave
and
I
were
just
talking
about
this
before,
there's,
actually
something
that
we
could
do
with
mimic
that
mimic.
A
We
talked
about
their
buildings
like
treasury
infrastructure
there,
so
we're
talking
with
them
this
week
about
that
in
terms
of
calculating
that
we're
still
figuring
out
how
we
will
execute
this
in
the
initial
stages
but
like
if
we
do
Mesa
like
and
maybe
we're
doing,
orders
for
the
first
week
that
we're
like
just
calculating
manually
from
there
but
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
like
set
this
up,
but
anyway,
just
one.
Yet
this
is
a
good
discussion.
A
I
think
the
actual
execution
of
it
in
terms
of
where
it
happens,
will
require
a
lot
more
coordination
and
follow-up.
I.
Think
things
that
sky
and
Ross
are
asking
about
are
also
very
important
in
terms
of
like
how
this
will
affect
the
the
treasury
there,
and
you
could
see
that
yeah
I'm
just
running
through
this
at
the
end
like
if
all
the
dxt
holders
sold-
and
there
was
only
300,
DxD
left.
A
So
it's
kind
of
it's
hard
to
predict
exactly
how
this
will
work,
because
there's
an
incentive
to
kind
of
wait
for
others
to
sell,
because
you
get
the
distribution
of
those
products
but
yeah
it
will.
It
will
basically
decrease
the
overall
size
of
the
treasury,
while
increasing
one
DxD
share
of
the
treasury.
E
D
A
Longer
so
yeah
any
other
kind
of
thoughts
on
this.
Please
leave
in
the
Forum
comments
there.
All
the
execution
on
this
is
really
important.
We
can
figure
that
out,
but
I
do
want
to
try
to
get
this
out
for
a
vote
by
the
end
of
the
day.
B
A
Sorry,
yeah
and
then
the
next
item
is
operations,
Guild
H1
2023
budget
proposal.
So
this
is
a
draft
proposal
for
a
operations
Guild.
So
we
talked
I
guess
it
was
two
weeks
ago
about
this
budgetary
cycle
and
putting
some
processes
on
that
that
build
off
the
work
that
was
done
for
the
phase
two
proposal,
which
says
that
geek
style
should
switch
away
from
using
individual
contributor
proposals
and
into
squad-based
budgeting
here,
and
the
distinction
we're
moving
on
here
with
these
budgeting.
A
Is
this
idea
that,
like
guilds,
are
things
that
receive
funding
from
DX
Dow
and
can
have
multiple
squads
underneath
it
there,
and
so
it's
kind
of
creating
almost
like
another
layer
layer
there,
and
so
that's
like
the
terminology
here,
so
this
operations
Guild
that
we're
proposing
here
basically
has
the
existing
governance,
contributor,
X
and
treasury
squads,
while
also
expanding
into
like
kind
of
growing
the
legal
squat
there.
A
So
what
did
you
just
kind
of
quickly
go
over
this,
and-
and
you
know,
both
people
ask
questions
about
it
and
then
also
yeah,
we'll
maybe
be
a
model
or
kind
of
a
reference
point
for
others
that
are
considering
their
squads.
Here
so
yeah,
the
exciting
thing
about
this
process
is
we're
not
just
switching
to
a
budgetary
cycle,
we're
also
using
geek
Styles
or
dixgov's
own
governance
platform.
Davi
to
do
this,
and
so,
as
opposed
to
using
multi-six,
distribute
these
funds.
A
A
You
basically
would
have
to
set
your
initial
Soul
bound
percentage,
of
course,
I'm
saying
sold
on
your
instead
of
reputation,
which
is
what
take
style
uses.
It's
the
same
thing:
it's
non-transferable,
governance,
power
but
I.
Think
in
terms
of
Davi
and
looking
for
other
Dows
do
copy.
This,
we
may
should
be
using
the
terminology,
Soul
bound,
so
I've
been
committing
to
that
so
anyways.
A
This
is
a
proposal
of
basically
the
five
members
of
existing
member
or
the
initial
members
of
the
operations
Guild
and
how
their
voting
power
would
split,
so
Caney
Fork,
D,
Labs,
Dave,
Melanie,
Skyline,
labs
and
Ally.
So
the
numbers
here
were
basically
turned
off
of,
like
both
how
you,
how
long
you've
been
in
DX
Dao
and
then
how
much
have
you
been
contributing
to
to
governance
there
and
so
like
okay
kind
of
been
I
guess
driven
the
longest?
A
That's
a
focus
there,
we're
sorry
for
operations
focusing
on
operations
and,
like
you
know,
and
same
with
the
team,
Melanie
kind
of
joining
the
20
there
and
then
Ali
has
been
part-time.
This
has
the
10
and
then
sky
isn't
really
active
in
terms
of
governance.
Kind
of
from
the
beginning,
but
he's
also
had
some
other
other
responsibilities
there,
and
these
are
the
initial
government
rules.
So
something
like
you
cannot
earn
additional
governance
power.
Past
25.
This
is
akin
to
dxl's
kind
of
past
four
percent.
A
A
So
if
you
just
kind
of
run
out
these,
what
would
happen
here
is
you
know
if
jeric
is
onboarded
and
I
think
his
time
is
at
15
or
20
in
this
you
know
he
would
earn
like
one
percent
and
then
Ali
would
earn
like
one
percent
Skyward
or
one
or
something
like
that
two
and
you
would
automatically
start
it
like
deep,
inflating
away
right
and
so
I
think,
probably
after
two
months,
yeah
I
guess
two
months,
Melanie
would
already
hit
25,
but
that-
and
that
would
probably
also
deflate
me
down
to
25
or
whatever.
A
A
A
So
this
is
yeah,
as
I
said,
this
is
proposing
for
the
contributor
X
governance,
treasury
and
the
legal
component,
and
so
the
members,
let
me
skip
to
the
bottom
here,
yeah.
So
I
said
these
are
the
members
of
the
operations
Guild
and
this
would
kind
of
what
they
would
be
working
on.
You
can
kind
of
read
about
that
there
and,
as
I
said
Eric
who's
been
on.
A
These
calls
a
lot
and
did
the
DTC
legal
assessment
I'm
hoping
he
can
kind
of
come
on
and
do
some
work
on
the
legal
side
there
so
in
in
total,
that
would
be
estimated
22
800
in
contributor
regular
cost
right.
So
this
would
be
the
compensation
for
those
contributors
that
I
just
mentioned
there
over
every
month,
and
that
would
be
six
thousand
seven
hundred
other
regular
costs,
and
this
is,
we
can
look
at
the
other
costs
here.
A
You
can
see
we
have
like
five
thousand
dollars
for
outside
legal,
paying
for
government
stewards
we'll
get
to
that
in
just
a
second
event,
sponsors
which
I
actually
think.
Maybe
we
should
take
off
of
this
there's
some
edits.
We
need
to
do
here,
but
that's
for
the
contributor
X
you
can
see
for
contributor
X,
there's
some
other
ones
and
then
for
all
of
these
budget
proposals,
and
for
this
one
in
particular,
all
of
the
costs
are
broken
down
to
the
cost.
A
Proposals
are
broken
on
to
what's
called
regular
costs
and
what's
called
contingency
costs,
so
regular
costs
are
ones.
We
know
that
those
are
happening.
We
know
the
people
that
are
going
to
work
on
it.
We
have
the
resources,
we
don't
Define
anyone
else
to
do
those
can
be
like
baked
in
there's.
No
other
questions
really
about
it.
A
Contingency
costs
are
ones
that
we
think
we
will
need
or
we'd
like
to
plan
that
we
will
need,
but
it's
not
clear
that
we're
going
to
actually
be
able
to
like
Execute
order
now
to
find
that
we're
not
sure
that
we
have
the
plan
to
be
able
to
do
that
or
the
person
to
be
able
to
like
kind
of
execute
on
that,
and
so
you
can
see
here.
This
is
one
of
the
things
the
contingency
cost
is
for
the
recruiting
costs
there.
A
This
would
be
in
potential
if
some
contributors
that
get
rewards
for
recruiting
other
contributors,
those
might
pay
out
in
those
six
months
based
on
some
some
time
time.
That's
spent
there,
so
that's
the
contingency
there
and
then
yeah.
If
we
just
kind
of
look
at
it,
you
can
also
do
the
contingency
on
the
contributor
level.
So
one
of
the
things
I
have
in
here
is
looking
for
a
new
treasury
manager.
A
So,
with
the
nimi
kind
of
proposal,
Dave's
actually
been
already
at
like
reduced
capacity
on
Treasury
the
last
couple
months
and
we'll
be
that
way
for
the
next
couple
months,
more
but
I
think
at
some
point
we're
going
to
need
to
have
someone
that
can
take
over
those
big
shoes
and
so
we're
going
to
start
I
wanted
to
plan
that
and
and
put
it
into
this
budget
here.
So
you
can
see
here.
A
This
is
we
kind
of
put
it
as
a
contingency
cost,
because
we
haven't
yet
found
this
person
we're
not
sure
exactly
when
it
would
be
proposing,
maybe
like
a
level
five
there
and
because
they
would
only
be
say
five
months
there,
because
it
maybe
we'd
find
them
in
January
in
or
February
or
something
for
that
we're
budgeting
5
800
a
month
for
that,
but
it's
a
contingency
cost
there,
and
so,
when
the
actual
funding
amount
is
sent
for
all
of
these
guilds,
only
the
regular
cost
will
be
sent
and
they'll
only
be
sent
in
a
three-month
increments.
A
So
that's
as
I
said
compensation
here
and
you
can
see
I
included
sky
here
at
20
for
governance.
Skye's
also
been
helping
contributor
x
a
bit
too
so
I
gotta,
just
since
the
operations
go
and
just
kind
of
combine
that
but
I
think
Skye,
you
know
is
someone
that,
whether
it's
like
multi-cigs
or
kind
of
on
these
calls
has
been
very,
very
active
there
and
I
think
going
forward.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
there
are
kind
of
some
people
that
continue
to
be
involved.
A
D
Yeah
yeah,
you
know
with
what
we
already
talked
about
this
on
on
givers,
with
with
your
men
and
increase
so
turns
out.
D
Developer
operations
has
no
no
square,
and
this
is
something
that
I've
been
working
on
the
past
months
on
on
DXL
and
I
I'm
planning
to
be
part
of
the
DX
Global
Squad
20
hours
a
week,
and
also
my
idea
was
to
propose
add
another
Squad
here
on
this
operation:
skill
for
developers,
operations
where
I'm
going
to
be
part
of
and
add,
also
an
extra
con
contingency
cost,
where
that
we
can
use
for
for
a
future
higher
of
a
solidity
security
researcher
or
some
security
advice
or
all
research
that
we
have
been
looking
into
the
Excel
tool
so
yeah.
D
This
will
help
me
a
lot
of
course
developer
operations.
This
is
something
that
is
has
been
competency
at
the
beginning.
The
exam
is
quite
important
and
if
not
I
will
have
to
create
my
own
Guild
and
everything,
and
this
looks
like
a
right
place
to
have
a
developer
operations.
Devops
quad,
that
I
can
be
part
of
and
have
20
hours
a
week
and
add
also
that
contingency
cost.
D
For
again,
a
security
researcher
advisor
I
think
that
it
will
be
good
later
with
Melanie,
to
put
up
a
job
description,
just
like
we
did
with
the
solidity
developer
that
we
will
be
on
boarding-
hopefully
this
month
for
swapper
and
to
start
looking
for
a
security
advice
or
research
to
join
us
in
the
developer
operator
in
the
developer
in
the
devops
or
devops
a
squad.
So
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
hear.
D
A
Yeah
and
as
we're
going
to
go
through
this
process,
we
have
to
make
decisions
with
like
hard
decisions
about
things
that
were
maybe
in
like
a
a
middle
ground
or
a
flexible
like
location
and
it.
You
know
we
could
still
be
be
flexible
with
the
execution
of
this
and,
like
still
have
people
kind
of
float
from
Squad
to
squad
or
have
cross
Squad
interaction
here.
A
But
we
just
want
to
come
up
with
like
a
clear
structure
for
how
that
is
done,
and
so
that
means
like,
where
is
work
being
funded
from
and
how
is
that,
ultimately
being
held
accountable
by
governance?
I
think
what
Augusto
is
talking
about
is
we
kind
of
this
like
up
developer
operations
or
like
security,
and
so
where
would
that
fit
in
this
world?
And
so
yeah,
Augusto
and
I
are
talking
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
so
I
think
we
could
maybe
come
up
with
a
new
proposal
or
an
updated
proposal.
A
I
guess
for
this.
That
includes
that
amount.
It
would
be
some
of
augusto's
time
and
then
also
like
yeah.
Some
contingency
costs
on
like
building
out
I,
think
the
security
and
developer
operations
part
next
year,
not
just
kind
of
being,
not
just
a
Gusto
for
that,
but
like
being
able
to
bring
someone
else,
and
maybe
a
couple
other
people
for
that,
but
something
in
the
contingency
budget
there,
so
that
would
potentially
change
actually
what
I'm
about
to
say
here,
which
is
yeah.
A
This
is
just
comparing
the
the
amounts,
as
you
can
see
here.
So
this
is
comparing
the
amounts
from
like
what
happened
in
2022.
For
those
squads
you
can
see
the
contributor
payments
were
a
little
bit
higher
there.
The
other
regular
cost
was
much
higher
there.
A
lot
of
that
is
because
of
some
of
the
retreat
stuff
there
and
than
there
and
I
guess
eventually,
I
think
that
makes
sense.
A
The
question
is
like
who's
gonna
run
it,
and,
and
do
that
so
I
think
we
have
to
figure
out
for
all
of
these
like
who
is
going
to
be
ultimately
responsible
for
that
and
how
that,
like
chain
of
command
works
on
that.
So,
let's
get
to
the
the
operations.
I
guess
the
developer
operations
in
a
second
I
just
want
to
kind
of
go
through
the
existing
budget
as
it
is
as
it
is
now.
A
So
you
can
see
there's
a
bit
of
decrease
here,
for
that
some
of
that
is
because
of
like
the
treasury
person
is
not
is
more
of
a
contingency
cost
that
can
kind
of
be
more
there.
The
other
component
is
said:
there
was
a
bunch
of
like
the
DX
Retreat
and
some
of
the
infinite
costs
were
born
by
contributor
X.
So
that's
why
contributor
X
and
the
coordinate
costs
were
born
by
contribution.
Those
were
a
bit
higher.
A
So
that's
why
that's
that's
lower
there
and
yeah
and
then
I
guess
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
before
yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
again,
I
don't
really
want
to
go
one
by
one
on
the
key
milestones
and
goals
right
now,
but
these
are
really
kind
of
specific
things,
and
so
I
would
appreciate
people
kind
of
went
through
and
gave
some
to
give
some
thought
to
them.
I'll
go
over
them
review
in
a
second
I.
Just
wanted
to
get
a
description
of
this
governance.
A
This
call
to
you
know,
look
over
these
things
to
vote
on
things
on
change,
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
continue
to
encourage
that.
So
the
question
is
kind
of
is:
is
how
right
so?
Would
we
be
paying
other
people
to
try
to
commit
to
that
or
or
what
way
do
we
want
to
encourage
existing
contributors
to
still
actively
participate
in
detail
governance,
and
how
do
we
kind
of
compensate
for
that?
This
also
brings
up
I.
A
Think
another
challenge
which
is
having
like
a
lot
of
rep
holders
that
maybe
have
moved
on,
or
maybe
we'll
move
on
to
the
Future
like.
How
can
we
keep
them
engaged
in
DXL
governance
as
like
as
a
voice
and
I?
Think?
More
importantly,
pay
them
for
that,
and
this
is
a
program
that
governs
stewardship
Steward
program.
That
would
I
think
be
the
first
step
to
really
paying
for
good
governance,
and
this
is
something
I
think
a
lot
of
dials
try
to
do
a
lot
of
these
big
D5
dials!
A
Think
about
it,
but
you
always
run
into
the
problem
of
being
able
to
gain
the
system.
The
benefit
for
DX
Dow
is
because
we
have
reputation.
We
can
use
that
as
a
very
effective
curation
tool
and
say:
okay,
anyone
above
0.5
percent
rep,
the
Opera
that
fulfills
these
items
ends
up.
Getting
can
qualify
for
this
program
to
get
paid
for
governance
in
that
way,
and
so
the
the
other
two
conditions
would
be
basically
to
attend.
Eight
governance
calls
out
of
I
think
a
possible
24..
A
Maybe
that
can
be
higher
to
10
or
12.
and
then
vote
on
at
least
one
proposal
per
month
for
six
total,
and
this
would
be
basically
up
to
like
a
1500
budgetary
periods.
That's
over
six
months
of
people
keep
keeping
people
engaged
in
that.
As
I
said,
people
could
still
abuse
this
right.
You
could
like
kind
of
want
to
participate.
A
This
then
just
get
the
fifteen
hundred
dollars
and
run,
but
I
think
we
keep
it
pretty
small
at
first
and
try
to
encourage
others
to
to
participate,
and
then,
if
anyone.
B
A
So
I
think
this
is
something
I
definitely
want
to
put
the
budget
for
at
least
non-contributors,
but
I
guess
the
question
I
wanted
maybe
to
propose
to
everyone
here
is
whether
this
is
something
we
want
to
have
for
like
how
do
we
want
to
pay?
Maybe,
like
current
contributors,.
A
A
At
jitsy,
because
you
can
like
on
the
video,
you
can
just
verify.
A
A
Automate
that
there
I
kind
of
think
that
you
know
the
squad,
you
know
the
guild
leads
themselves
will
want
to
participate
in
DX
style
governance,
because
that's
how
they're
going
to
get
paid
right
if
they
want
to
make
a
request
to
dx.governance,
then
like
they
need
to
know
what's
going
on.
So
maybe
they
don't
need
to
be
compensated
for
the
governance
that
they
were.
They
were
the
way
they
were
in
the
past,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
these
things
about
how
people
participate
in
governance.
Reputation.
A
Distribution
is
a
huge
one
that
will
be
a
tough
nut
to
crack
going
forward,
because
that
will
change
completely
in
this
new
system.
So
I
think
we
want
to
be
interesting
and
creative
about
this
in
terms
of
how
we
encourage
and
incentivize
this
and
so
yeah
I'm,
going
to
include
this
still
in
the
budget
there,
but
I'm.
A
Maybe
gonna
pull
it
out
into
a
separate
Post
in
a
separate
like
program
to
try
to
put
some
more
details
on
it
there,
but
I'm
going
to
probably
include
it
as
like,
a
contingency
cost
or
actually
maybe
a
regular
cost.
I'm
gonna
include
it
in
the
budget
and
then
provide
details
in
another
Forum
post.
A
A
Yeah
I
think
all
of
these
are,
as
I
said,
like
specific
and
would
love
kind
of
some
some
some
comments
on
them.
So
you
can
see
things
the
things
we've
already
talked
about:
the
Deep
safe
priorities
board
with
the
Savage
process.
The
same
thing
goes
with
the
guild
councils
right
implementing
those
and
kind
of
establishing
that
would
be
a
key
kind
of
focus
operations,
Guild
the
multi-sig
management
system,
something
we've
been
talking
about,
which
may
eventually
be
transition
over
to
guilds.
A
I
just
talked
about
the
Deep
style,
reputation,
distribution
and
then
yeah
establishing
the
DHD
monetary
policy
committee.
So
things
you
can
see
for
governance
and
then
the
treasury
there
actually
I
think.
The
only
thing
we
do
not
have
specific
in
here
that
maybe
we
look
for
is
maybe
some
like
P
mile
sort
of
goal
for
the
contributor
X
Squad,
but
maybe
what
we
were
just
talking
about
with
gusto
there
for
the
security
research
and
the
swapper
one.
A
We
could
put
something
specific
on
there
for
for
that
yeah
and
I
guess,
maybe
just
because
it
is
like
a
new
thing.
This
idea
of
this
legal
Squad.
So
this
would
be
something
that
is
is,
as
we
said,
with
Frozen
Here
Is
by
by
Eric
AKA
Red
Hat
Ross,
who
did
the
DX
legal
assessment
so
in
here
I
think
they
would
have
a
budget,
so
there
would
be
two
kind
of
parts
to
it.
A
So
one
is
having
Europe
at
I
think
this
should
probably
be
20
now,
because
we're
talking
about
devac
stuff.
That
may
take
a
little
bit
more
of
his
time,
but
he
would
be
at
20
and
then
also
having
a
like
budget
for
the
six
months
of
say,
like
five
thousand
dollars
for
other
legal
costs,
that's
actually
much
lower
than
we
spent
before.
A
So
that
may
be
like
an
under
count
there,
but
that
would
be
responsible
for
helping
sure
contributors
can
get
paid,
making
sure
the
detail
was
kept
abreast
on
all
the
latest
dial
developments
and
then
also
doing
a
little
like
stakeholder
risk
analysis
there
and
yeah.
Hopefully
that
would
be
kind
of
the
start
of
the
legal
Squad.
There.
C
Chris
one
thing
I
just
thought
of:
if
you
go
to
the
the
who
makes
up
the
guild,
the
The
Guild
we,
we
already
have
some
a
bit
of
a
issue
in
like
dicks
down
General,
where
people
on
certain
squads
which
we've
had
squads
so
far.
Some
people
don't
have
much
incentive
or
reason
or
time
to
spend
time
interacting
with
or
keeping
up
on
other
squads
right
and
that's
a
it's
communication.
C
There
are
some
people
that
move
across
mini
squads
or
all
squads
and
try
to
bring
information
between
those
I'd
say
that
that's
one
thing
that
dxbiz
people
do,
which
is
important
to
to
prevent
this
from
becoming
even
a
larger
issue,
with
guilds,
potentially
product
guilds
and
other
guilds
becoming
very
isolated.
It
could
be
interesting
to
in
this
operations.
C
Guild
there's
like
The
Five,
People
You
have
there
and
pending
Jericho's
Eric
as
well,
but
it
could
make
sense
to
have
two
one
or
two
people
from
outside
of
operation,
skill
to
be
a
part
of
the
operation
Guild
itself,
so
that
that
those
other
guilds
have
a
reason
to
stay
involved
with
and
pay
attention
and
and
also
check,
what's
happening
in
other
guilds
and
so
having
cross
people
crossing
multiple
guilds,
I
think
is
actually
a
really
valuable
part,
and
even
if
they're
less
active
in
the
guild,
they
could
still
be
a
part
of
the
governance
of
that
Guild.
A
The
contributor
proposals
from
all
of
governance
is
because,
like
you
know,
it's
just
like
not
worth
it
for
us
to
go
over
individual
contributor
proposals
on
this
call
and
from
25
people
when
it's
that's
not
something
that
we
actually
have
good
knowledge
of
or
good
perspective
on,
and
so
I
think.
The
key
thing
is
like
there's
a
balance
to
that,
where
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
only
focusing
on
the
things
that
are
like
really
necessary
but
like
maintaining
that's
just
the
cross.
A
C
A
Guess
like
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
does
right
like
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
like
I'm,
tired
of
like
hearing
about
other
squads
in
like
a
day-to-day
basis,
and
what
we
need
to
do,
I
think
is
create
more
like
high
level
summaries
of
what
those
squads
are
doing
and
what
those
guilds
are
doing
and
communicate.
Those
rather
than
I
think
what
we
have
right
now,
which
is
only
like
people,
can
only
drink
from
the
fire
hose
of
like
the
day-to-day
grind
of
another
squad
or
Guild.
C
A
What
I
think
we
need
to
do
is
like
allow
the
people
that
are
like
really
focused
on
that
to
be
doing
it
the
whole
time,
but
then
make
sure
there's,
like
periodic
updates
that
are
presented
to
the
rest
of
the
doubt.
A
A
Right
and
I
think
that's
what's
like
actually
really
powerful
about.
This
is
like
the
guilds
are
executing
on
things
that
the
Dao
has
approved
and
funded,
but
the
execution
of
that,
while
they
have
autonomy,
it's
still
gonna,
be
like
transparent
and
on
chain
right.
They're
still,
gonna
have
to
send
the
funds
in
the
same
way
and
they're
still
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
process
of
like
governing,
and
yes,
there
may
be
more,
like
maybe
more
information.
A
More
communication
is
a
little
bit
different,
but,
like
I
think
we
still
value
like
the
kind
of
transparency
of
who's
who's
voting
on
these
things,
who's
getting
funded
with
all
these
things.
So
there
is
like
some
visibility
into
that
which
allows
for
accountability
either
through
if
they're
The
Guild
is
acting
very
maliciously.
We
can
obviously
any
of
the
guild.
Members
have
reputation
deep
style
reputation,
so
you
can.
A
A
Yeah
and
then
maybe
just
while
we're
hearing
any
kind
of
other
I
mean
I,
guess
Binky
was
kind
of
saying,
having
a
separate
Guild
for
Augusto
and
Company,
but
yeah.
So
what
would
likely
happen
is
that
this
would
just
kind
of
grow
a
little
bit
to
include
this
like
developer
operations
or
security
kind
of
component.
There
I
think
in
the
future,
like
with
all
of
these,
like
they
can
be
spun
out
into
their
own
thing.
A
I
think
that's
like
why
it's
nice
to
have
this
structure
like
this,
because
it
allows
any
squad
to
like
spin
out
into
its
own
Guild
or
do
something
that's
more
independent.
That
just
requires
like
a
bit
more
accountability
and
autonomy
in
for
the
people
that
are
like
getting
the
funding
from
that
to
be
able
to
yeah
be
accountable
to
the
Dow.
D
Yes,
yes,
what
the
main
idea
would
be
to
have
our
own
developer
operation,
skill,
where
we
can
execute
purely
again
develop
a
patients
like
testing,
experimental
releases
on
our
products
or
yeah
executing
that
from
our
from
the
developer
operation?
Skill
do
anything
do
any
action
that
needs
any
interaction
or
any
action
that
is
developer
related,
like
with
the
technical
actions
that
we
need
to
execute
in
our
products.
This
can
be
created
later.
D
The
idea
to
to
have
the
developer
operations
here
on
this
proposal
will
reach
us
to
be
included
in
this
budget.
But,
let's
say
in
in
February,
we
can
create
a
developer
operations.
Can
you
start
using
it
right
away
to
test
any
of
our
stuff
that
we
need
to
execute
anything
that
we
need
from
the
guild
perspective,
but
for
this
for
this
for
the
first
six
months
to
be
included
there
just
to
make
things
easier
for
me
and
I
don't
have
to
get
the
proportion
deploy
the
and
deploy
the
gear
right
away.
D
We
can
create,
like
a
few
months
after
this
I
started,
using
it,
I
can
get
paid
from
the
operations
gear
budget
and
the
next
six
months.
We
can
use
a
developer
operation
skill.
This
is
us.
This
will
be
just
the
idea
to
make
it
easier
to
be
including
the
six
months
budget
for
now
and
the
next
six
months
operate
from
the
from
our
own
Guild.
A
Yeah,
this
is
the
benefit
of
doing
these
budgets.
So
far
in
advance.
Is
we're
like
planning
for
these
things
that
maybe
we'll
do
in
March
February
or
something
like
that,
but
now
that
we're
thinking
about
it
and
putting
it
down
putting
it
on
chain,
then
that
will
like
commit
us
to
doing
that
going
forward.
So
I
think
it's
a
healthy
process
to
at
least
commit
to
it
and
include,
and.
A
Thing
I'd
say
is
like
some
of
the
things
that
you
guys
are
talking
about
like
developer.
Relations
like
that
does
have
some
overlap
in
terms
of
what
the
contributor
X
Squad
is
doing
in
terms
of
making
this
like
a
nice
place
for
contributors
and
also
recruiting
like
a
lot
of
the
recruiting
stuff,
is
yeah
a
little
bit
from
Augusto
and
Melanie
on
that.
D
Yeah
on
on
the
developer
operations,
also,
while
marathons
abilities
will
include
the
the
developer
weekly
calls
and
also
we
what
we've
been
having
this
bi-weekly
developer
planning
course
that
I
think
it
went
really
well
and
they
helped
us
a
lot,
get
a
bit
more
organized.
We
are.
D
We
still
have
a
lot
of
work
on,
but
there
was
some
calls
where
we
have
been
talking
for
two
three
hours,
so
that
was
really
the
need
for
a
place
to
talk
about
developer
planning
and
how
we
are
planning
our
resources,
how
we
are
using
our
development
resources
on
on
DXL.
So
this
will
be
alongside
the
developer,
operation,
skill
and
yeah.
D
So
those
will
be
the
responsibilities
and
then
help
on
the
technical
planning
of
the
of
the
products
I'm
going
to
be
helping
on
Banky
on
on
on
swapper
on
the
next
on
the
next
proportion
on
how,
on
the
next
step
that
we
are
going
to
propose
on
swapper,
that
Panky
is
going
to
propose
on
this
proper
team,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
help
as
much
as
I
can
there,
and
that
will
be
the
role
of
the
developer
operations,
hopefully
in
the
future.
D
I
I
won't
be
alone
there
right
now
and
the
only
one
there.
The
idea
next
year
will
be
to
get
someone
else
to
help
me.
So
if
I
want
to
take
some
time
off
right,
there
is
going
to
be
someone
that
can
take
care
of
the
developed
operations
so
yeah.
That
will
be
my
goal
for
next
year.
A
Yeah-
and
this
will
some
conversations-
I
think
we
think
about
the
product
squads
and
how
they'll
turn
into
guilds.
You
know
we
have
to
figure
out
kind
of
where
things
fall
and
and
that
so
all
kind
of
yeah.
The
process
we're
going
through.
A
I
also
think
treasury
is
something
that
could
be
split
up.
It
could
be
spun
off
into
a
guild
too,
but
it's
kind
of
like
the
same
thing
where
I
think
it's
like
not
the
right
time
to
do
it,
but
that
one
I
think
is
more
about
from.
Like
a
actually
on-chain
operational
perspective,
it
could
be
very
nice
to
have
like
a
treasury
Guild
that
is
doing
things
yeah
and
then
Ross
is
saying.
Qa
is
another
question.
I
think
this
is
probably
the
biggest
kind
of
outstanding
question
yeah.
For
me.
A
We
could
think
about
how
that
works.
Maybe
that's
funded
through
the
product
squads
rather
than
through
geeked
out
governance,
but
they
could
have
their
own
Guild.
I
know.
Milan
has
talked
about
kind
of
wanting
to
do
QA
for
other
Dows,
so
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
that
all
will
work,
but
I
think
that's
when
we
need
to
also
figure.
G
A
G
A
B
A
Awesome
I
know
we're
over
time
here
so
I
want
to
let
people
go,
but
I
definitely
want
to
have
more
comments
and
feedback.
Dm
me
anything
else
here,
I
think
we're,
hopefully
on
path
for
a
DX
gov
presentation
on
Friday
Ross.
A
Cool
and
then
next
week,
we'll
kind
of
dive
into
the
DX,
sorry,
Dick's,
voice,
swapper,
carrot
and
and
those
oh
satis
voice.
But.
A
Yeah
so
with
that
next
week
and
then
yeah,
this
will
be
kind
of
like
a
rolling
thing.
So
we
want
to
get
kind
of
there'll,
be
some
changes
here.
As
I
said,
I'll
probably
make
I'm
gonna
make
a
separate
budget
like
a
V2
one
of
this
operations.
Guild
that
includes
the
stuff
Augusto
is
talking
about
the
developer
operations.
Kind
of
compare.
Those
may
make
a
couple
other
changes,
but
like
that'll,
be
over
the
next
week.
We'll
review
this
hopefully
on
this
next
call,
there's
either
other
questions
and
then
try
to
get
that
off.
A
While
we're,
then
you
know
starting
the
process
of
reviewing
the
other
ones
there
so
awesome,
well
a
packed
Friday,
then
I,
guess,
yeah
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
it
anything
else
before
we
part
ways
go
Argentina
I
mean
that
was
a
big
I.
Guess,
there's
a
big
USA,
win,
I
gotta
say
like
I
think
that's.
G
A
A
more
yeah
it's
exciting
for
for
everyone,
so
that
was
exciting,
yeah
Friday
and
then
Saturday
9
A.M
USA
versus
the
Netherlands.
So
cool.