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A
Hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
governance
discussion.
Fourth
of
august
today,
we'll
be
going
over
the
government
governance
agenda,
the
proposal
roundup
to
start,
which
is
actually
quite
light
this
week.
A
So
to
start,
we
actually
have
a
transfer
of
400
ether
going
from
the
main
net
base
to
xdx
tau,
and
that
is
used
for
both
some
swapper
deposits,
as
well
as
the
external
operations
and
the
buyback
which
was
extended
other
than
that
we
have
one
worker
proposal
on
mainnet,
which
is
kermit,
and
we
actually
have
a
proposal
about
updating,
swapper
eth
to
3.1,
and
I
believe,
if
you
look
at
the
swapper
site
right
now
or
the
swapper
3.1,
it's
actually
an
unofficial
build.
A
But
I
believe
once
this
gets
deployed,
the
message
should
not
show
on
ether
on
swap.east.link.
If
I'm
correct.
B
Yeah,
I
don't
know
john,
if
you
could
just
clarify
this.
I
think
cause
like.
I
just
went
to
the
link
of
the
ipfs
hash
in
the
proposal
and
so
like
when
you
go
to
that,
I'm
going
to
ipfs.I
io,
you
know,
slash
ipf,
slash
the
hash,
and
that,
like
has
the
warning
bar
at
the
top.
C
I
think
the
main
problem
here-
and
I
think
this
will
probably
end
up
getting
addressed
in
the
next
release-
is
that
when
you
do
visit
swapper.eth
using
you
know
without
the
dot
link-
and
you
have
meta
mask
activated,
it
will
like
take
you
to
the
ipfs
instance
of
the
site,
but
it
like
changes
the
url.
So
I
think
it's
I'm
not
sure
until
it
goes
live,
and
I
didn't
look
at
exactly
how
this
was
implemented.
C
A
We
have
a
discord,
prep
boost
for
sarniac,
two
worker
proposals,
caden
and
melanie
and
sky
mine
labs
has
a
reimbursement
proposal
up
for
some
expenditures
during
ecc,
paris
and
the
events
surrounding
that
and
then
moving
on
to
some
of
the
discussion
items.
Unless
there's
something
I
don't
think,
there's
much
to
talk
about
about
the
xdy
proposals.
So
moving
on
to
the
discussion
points,
we
actually
there's
an
update
to
gpv
one
where
I
believe
the
solvers
have
changed
so
to
actually
be
able
to
do
buyback
orders,
for
example,
mainnet.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
the
propose
linked
to
this
in
the
in
the
agenda
so
there's
a
proposal
to
send
250,
eth
or
draft
proposal
that
I
think
has
not
been
submitted
to
alchemy,
to
xdx
tao,
specifically
for
to
conduct
the
buyback
and
that's
because
when
we
last
sent
funds
to
x
takes
down
which
is
actually
arriving
tomorrow.
There
was
only,
I
think,
75
eth
earmarked
for
the
buyback,
because
we
kind
of
assumed
that
the
buyback
at
that
time
would
be
both
on
mainnet
and
xdi.
B
So
now
that
we'll
be
connecting
it
through
x,
die,
we
just
need
to
transfer
more
eth
there,
but
the
good
thing
about
x
dies,
of
course,
it's
five
days
for
proposals
and
less
gas
costs,
so
it
actually
is
cheaper
for
for
geeks
daughter
to
do
that,
and
it
should
be
yeah
and
it's
easy
for
people
to
kind
of
participate
in
and
interact
for
that.
B
In
order
to
do
this
and
switch,
we
actually
do
need
to
push
a
new
release
of
mesa,
dot,
eth,
and
so
I'm
talking
with,
I
think,
geronimo
and
ross
on
how
we
can
get
that
up.
A
Yeah
absolutely
and
the
the
proposal
for
the
250
eve.
I've
actually
already
submitted
it,
but
I
submitted
it
at
a
low
gas
price
or
hopefully
that
will
be
passing
overnight
or
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
in
other
news
I've
also
actually
reached
a
one
percent
rep
on
mainnet.
A
So
it
might
also
be
worth
considering
eventually
adding
my
address
to
the
multi-sig.
A
So
I
can
help
submitting
the
transactions
and
working
with
the
relay
to
the
multisig
and
submitting
any
transactions
to
bridge
to
xdi
or
any
future
treasury
diversification
proposals
and
then
further
discussion
point
is
actually
dx
style
expenses
which
chris
posted
on
the
forum
a
couple
of
days
ago,
which
is
actually
an
overview
of
kind
of
like
the
expenses
incurred
up
to
end
of
july
since
beginning
of
the
year-
and
I
don't
know
chris-
if
you
wanted
to
give
a
little
update
about
that.
B
Yeah,
so
this
was
I'm
actually.
B
I'm
coming
in
on
another
screen
here
yeah,
so
this
was
oh
wow,
so
we
had
previously
done
an
update.
I
think
it
was
february
and
it's
kind
of
long
overdue.
Something
I've
been
meaning
to
do,
and
part
of
the
reason
is
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
moving
parts
with
it,
because
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
points
that
need
to
happen
for
like
how
you
classify
things.
There's
a
lot
of
data
gathering
and
a
lot
of
thing
is,
is
more
like
manual,
but
I
think
it's
yeah.
B
Things
are
are
kind
of
being
laid
out,
but
I
wanted
to
walk
through.
You
can
see,
read
the
high
level
stuff
from
the
post
there,
but
I
wanted
to
walk
through
some
of
the
ways
that,
like
things,
were
calculated
just
to
be
kind
of
transparent
about
like
how
things
are
being
represented
and
and
and
that
so
like
to
start
with,
and
those
who
remember
that
people
will
remember
the
colors.
There
are
not
as
many
colors
elsewhere,
but
these
were
the
categories
or
squads.
B
I
was
using
to
define
the
different
fund
expenditures,
so
I
think
that
obviously,
like
the
product
squads
are
pretty
self-explanatory.
Dx
voice,
biz,
dev,
contributor,
ux,
and
then
I
put
dx
ventures.
Even
though
there's
not,
I
don't
there's
anyone
that's
full-time
on
that.
It
was
something
I
think
that
we
have
been
spending
time
on.
So
I
I
wanted
to
include
it
to
calculate
some
of
that
and
then,
like
governance
and
ecosystem
development,
security
are
a
little
catch-all
and
it's
it's
it's
difficult
to
define
it,
but
the
governance.
B
One
in
this
definition
does
include
people
that,
like
help
on
this
call
operations,
but
also
the
dx
vote
and
the
product
level
point
just
to
include
that
there
and
then
the
ecosystem
development
security
is
like
things
that
are
cross
product,
and
I
also
think
the
security
element
of
this
is
going
to
become
more
important.
So
I
think
it's
it
makes
sense
to
carve
that
out
as
something.
But
again
these
are
just
like
up
for.
B
B
Yeah
and
then
just
like
the
high
level
kind
of
like
total
expenses
paid
out,
so
this
is
funds
that
have
left
dxdow
right.
So
this
is
like
looking
at
payments
that
have
like
already
occurred,
and
you
can
see
that's
over
the
20
over
the
seven
months
of
2021,
what
we're
kind
of
working
with
here
so
about
162
thousand
dollars
a
month
that
has
been
paid
out.
This
is
only
east
and
die
payments.
B
It
does
not
include
any
of
the
dxd
stuff
which
touch
on
a
little
bit
later,
but
this
is
only
for
eth
die
usdc
or,
I
think
the
usdt
any
of
the
stablecoin
payments
there
and
yeah
in
this
kind
of
what
contribute.
What
fits
in
all
this
is
there's
kind
of
like
three
main
sheets
to
check
out.
One
is
the
contributor
payouts,
so
this
is
simply
like
a
list
of
all
the
payouts
for
all
contributors
over
2021
and
I
think
there
are
like
138
different
payouts
to
33
different
contributors.
B
So
these
would
be
contributors
that,
like
that,
went
in
through
the
compensation
guidelines
here
and
then
for
these.
I
did
my
best
to
try
to
like
calculate
these
workers
by
their
squad,
so
for
a
lot
of
the
product
squads.
Obviously,
like
most
people
are
working
full-time
on
their
product
squad,
so
their
cost.
B
Their
salary
goes
almost
entirely
to
the
product
squad,
but
there
are
some
people
that
are
working
across
different
areas,
and
so
I
just
used
like
kind
of
a
simple
percentage
to
to
just
distribute
that,
so
we
could
get
a
little
bit
better
idea
of
the
cost
would
be
happy
to
see.
Comments
on
these.
That,
like
are
things
that
are
changed
or
better.
It
was
helpful
for
a
couple.
People
I
think
sky
and
keenan
are
are
are
ones
that
they
actually
put
the
percentages
in
their
worker
proposal
themselves.
B
So,
as
you
just
kind
of
go
in
there
and
take
that
percentage,
but
that's
like
the
big,
the
big
breakdown
here
in
terms
of
contributors
you
can
see
here.
B
This
was
is
just
our
cost
on
a
contributor
basis
for
the
seven
months
so
about
a
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars
a
month
in
contributor
salaries,
and
this
is
kind
of
where
the
the
breakdown
is
going
here.
So
you
can
see
yeah,
for
this
is
just
the
contributor
component.
B
I
guess
this
does
not
have
the
monthly
totals
on
them,
but
the
average
you
can
see
is
about
106,
000.
and
then
there's
other
expenses
right,
which
is
like
non-contributor
stuff.
This
is
like
a
catch-all
for
all
of
those
things.
You
can
kind
of
see
the
breakdown
here.
This
is
like
a
similar
format.
It's
just
looking
at.
Let
me
make
this
bigger.
B
It's
just
kind
of
looking
at
all
of
the
different
expenses
that
have
incurred
that
are
not
two
contributors.
So
a
lot
of
these
are
audits.
Some
of
these
are
there's
a
tenderly
subscription.
What
we
have
the
gas
refunds
is
a
big
thing
about
seventy
five
hundred
dollars
a
month,
the
deke
style
I
mean
some
things
like
andre
casa
and
then
it
also
includes
some
things,
including
like
the
swapper
incentives,
and
so
I
think
this
is
something
that
was
a
cost
and
was
kind
of
distributed
out
there.
B
So
you
can
see
that's
one
of
the
big
reasons
why
you
do
see
like
a
big
increase
in
swapper
expenses
in
these
two
months
there,
but
that's
the
other
expenses
there
and
then
for
each
of
these.
It
just
we
like
categorize
them
by
a
certain
squad,
so
that
we
could
assign
their
amounts
so
and
most
of
the
audits
are
split
up
because
the
audits
are
like
they
do.
B
Typically,
when
they're
doing
an
audit
they're
doing
a
couple
different
contracts
that
may
be
across
squad,
maybe
one
for
swapper
and
one
for
aqua
so
tried
to
do
the
best
to
split
them,
split
them
up
there,
and
then
I
also
did
kind
of
try
to
do
the
best
to
come
up
with
like
accounts
payable.
So
this
is
basically
like
expenses
incurred
by
gxdow
that
have
not
been
paid
out.
B
So
I
think,
like
a
good
example
of
this
is
augusto's
proposals
that
have
actually
been
submitted
and
approved
on
chain
by
xd
extao,
but
I
think
in
his
broker
proposals
he's
only
getting
paid
through
only
getting
paid
through
dx
vote
on
arbitrage.
So
it's
like
once
the
funds
get
there
he'll
get
paid,
but
that
is
actually
like
a
cost.
B
That's
kind
of
like
incurred
to
to
dx
down
so
just
kind
of
calculating
that
and
then
there's
also
people
like
not
submitted
proposals
or
like
things
like
that,
and
so
I
was
just
trying
to
do
my
and
then
like,
for
instance,
nico's
is
is
in
here,
and
so
you
know
obviously
like
nothing
is
official
until
it's
like
paid
out
from
textile
on
chain,
but
it
is
sometimes
like
helpful
to
do
some
like
planning
on
what
these
other
ones
are
coming
up
and
so
yeah.
B
B
You
can
see
it's
like
179
000
a
month
in
in
that
range,
and
then
I
guess
the
one
other
thing.
I
two
other
things
I
would
say
quickly
before
I
open
up
the
questions
is.
I
did
also
look
at
some
of
the
omen
squad
funding
to
like
estimate
how
much
like
that
had
cost
is
like
the
same
way
for
the
swapper
rewards
here.
B
So
again
these
might
be
might
be
wrong,
but
I
think
it
was
like
there's
been
about
300
thousand
315
000
of
subsidies
or
like
omen
squad
has
had,
and
I
think
it's
really
hard
to
calculate
on
the
x
die
the
amount
of
how
the
lp
positions
are
estimated.
But
it's
probably
like
you
know,
I
said
like
50
000,
so
that
would
mean
there's
you
know.
Over
the
last
six
months
there's
been
about
a
50k
subsidy
to
omen
squad.
B
This
can
kind
of
adjust
there,
but
just
kind
of
trying
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
that
cost
is
to
geeks
doubt
and
then
the
last
thing
I'd
say
is
like.
I
also
included
the
dx
voice
cost
here,
which
has
not
been
incurred
but
like
from
geek
style
that
has
been
sent
out
of
the
treasury,
and
then
I
put
that
on
the
two
different
months
to
kind
of
show
that
it
was
more
of
a
spread
out
cost.
That
was
not
kind
of
anything.
B
All
at
once,
but
yeah,
that's
kind
of
where
things
there,
the
there's
a
post
up
there
to
enjoy
any
feedback
but
wanted
to
see.
If
anyone
had
questions
or.
E
Very
good
looks
awesome,
awesome
to
check
it
out
and
see
that
all
this
information
has
been
made
public.
We
should
share
it
around
and
and
spread
it
around
to
dxc
holders
like
communicate
the
best
way
we
want
and
regarding
my
payment
proposal,
it
needs
to
happen
on
the
export
and
I'm
going
to
submit
to
xdi
using
the
contribution
reward
scheme.
E
But
the
idea
was
to
use
the
what
is
the
scheme,
but
it's
going
to
take
a
bit
more
till
it
was
submitted
and
I'm
I'm
already
like
four
months
own
of
work
kinda
nearly
that
on
on
the
excel
on
approved
work.
So
I'm
going
to
be
submitting
that
this
week,
using
the
export
on
excite.
B
Yeah,
so
it's
it's
the
contributors
and
then
the
other
expenses
right.
So
these
are
like
the
two
big
ones.
So
you
can
see
like
this
is
just
salaries
here
and
so
about
a
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars
a
month
in
just
salaries
as
opposed
to
162
for
total
and
then
the
things
in
the
other
expenses.
This
is
like
the
things
that
were
on
this
sheet,
which
is
like
gas
refunds,
or
you
know,
the
omen
website
was
something,
for
instance,
yeah,
there's
different
things,
a.
C
D
The
just
one
thing
would
be:
the
swapper
rewards,
it's
very
difficult
to
put
that
into
like
swapper
team
costs.
Right
like
it's,
it's
it's
not
even
you
could
say
it's
in
marketing.
You
say
it's
something
else,
but
it's
actually
like.
D
B
F
B
Yeah
and
that's
what
I
think
is
the
right
move,
is
it's
actually
not
something
like
just
for,
like
the
farming
campaigns
were
not
just
about
just
swapper
right,
there's
like
a
whole
kind
of
dxd
component.
To
that
so
yeah,
I'm
not!
I
don't.
I
think
it
was
a
good
cost,
but
like
I
think
it
was
a
cost
yeah.
B
And
I
think,
like
the
cost
of
swapper
token,
incentives
is
like
the
cost
structure
that
is
much
different
because
you
kind
of
said
you're
like
minting
it
but
like
that
is.
I
think
it
is
the
cost
and
I
think
the
same
thing
like
for
omen
squad,
actually
the
funding
there.
It's
like
the
same
thing
I
think,
there's
a
good
cost
like
we
need
to
be
figuring
out
how
to
be
promoting
and
and
doing
that,
but
yeah.
B
C
Yeah,
I
could
imagine
like
a
more
granular
version
like
separating
like
incentive
and
marketing
costs
from
like
over,
like
like
contributor
costs.
Right,
I
mean
not
not
criticizing
this,
because
you've
already
done
a
ton
of
work
here.
I'm
just
like
that
is
when
you
look
at
the
first
thought
I
had
was
when
I
looked
at
the
seven
month
average
of
the
swapper
and
omen.
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
swapper
was
so
close
because
it's
like
a
less
of
a
head
count
on
the
swapper
squad
right.
B
Actually,
I
think
I
have
in
the
post.
I
think
there
was
actually
a
breakdown
of
it
by
oh,
no,
I
had
it
somewhere
because
in
this
one
you
can
look
at
like
what's
the
audit
and
what's
the
incentives-
and
I
think
that
was
like
the
big
thing
was,
I
also
think
swapper
had
a
lot
more
audit
cost.
C
That
would
make
sense
because
omen,
I
don't
think,
has
really
had
there's
only
like
one
small
on
it
that
we've
paid
for
our
nomen
so
far.
G
Yeah,
like
one
thing
we
should
think
about,
is
to
actually
like
try
to
automa
optimize
it
like
the
whole
process
of
creating
that.
H
G
G
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
the
I
completely
agree.
I,
the
two
thoughts
of
that
are
one
I
do
think
like.
Maybe
this
general
format
is
is
is
the
way
to
go
when
you
think
about
just
like
their
contributor
payouts
and
there's
other
expenses
and
we're
just
like
kind
of
adding
to
this,
so
even
just
adding
to
this
manual.
I
think
in
the
meantime,
shouldn't
be
as
but
I
completely
agree,
I'm
wanting
to
like
automate
this
long
term.
I
think
one
of
the
key
difficulties
in
automating.
B
It
is
making
these
like
game
time
decisions
on
like
how
things
are
categorized
like
just
in
the
swapper
and
says
it's
a
perfect
example
like
and
then
even
for
contributors
like
you
know,
it
would
be
great
if
we
had
like
people,
I
think
percentages
in
the
proposals
or
something
like
that
and
then
maybe,
when
we're
actually
like
submitting
requests
for
like
other
expenses,
we
have
some
way
of
like
doing
that
in
a
format
that
can
be
like
reproducible
and
easily
scraped,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
think
like
this
should
be
like.
B
E
G
The
decision
of
where
which
specific
proposal
should
go
could
also
be
part
of
the.
B
C
Yeah
yeah,
it's
probably
some
work,
but
there
might
be
some
opportunities
if
and
when
we
finally
get
to
like
doing
the
payroll
system
and
with
governance
2.0,
you
could
categorize
things
and
metadata
around
the
proposals
that
could
make
like
automation
possible,
but
yeah.
Of
course,
there's
always
going
to
be
some
generalization
and
details
lost
when
you
try
to
do
that,
but
we
could
kind
of
make
you
know,
take
steps
towards
automation,.
B
Cool
any
other
thoughts,
I
agree
with
others
when
I
think
it's
like
kind
of
ground
conversations,
so
maybe
it's
something
to
come
back
to
the
post
has
a
link
to
the
excel
sheet.
I
think
it's
uploaded
in
ipfs.
You
should
be
able
to
download
all
the
the
data.
I
also
did,
I
think,
there's
at
least
we're
talking
about
scraping
this
like
this
does
include.
F
Awesome
thanks
a
lot
chris
chris,
I'm
just
wondering
like
I
was
thinking
like
how
can
we
maybe
use
this
data
like?
Can
we
like
what
are
some
steps
that
we
can
take?
I
don't
know
we
now
have
overview
like.
Are
we
spending
more
money
somewhere
than
we
should
have?
Should
we
like
decrease
some
spending
or
increase
in
some
areas,
like
I'm
just
sure,
like
what
steps
can
we
maybe
take.
B
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
something
to
monitor.
Obviously
like
the
other
side
of
this
is
how
important
are
each
of
these
buckets
to
dx
tao
and
how
much
do
we
want
to
be
devoting
resources
to
that
right
so
like
devoting
resources
to
governance
is
important,
but
like
there's,
probably
not
like
an
immediate
revenue
opportunity
there,
so
we
have
to
kind
of
think
about
like
well.
What's
the
investment
case
for
that,
but
like
in
a
lot
of
ways,
governance
makes
everything
more
efficient.
So
if
we
can
improve
things
there,
then
we
can
pay
down.
B
I
think
for
the
broadly
speaking,
I
actually
don't
think
anything
in
here
is
too
surprising.
I
think,
especially
when
you
look
at
the
like
the
swapper
subsidy
cost
is
the
reason
that's
a
little
bit
more.
I
think
omen.
Is
there
the
kind
of
the
oldest
product
and
swapper
and
aqua
are
kind
of
some
big
some
expenses?
I
think
we're
kind
of
spread
out.
So
I
don't
really
know
if
there's
there's
something
that
we
can
do
with
this
now
in
terms
of
changing
the
allocation
here.
B
J
C
B
Or
five
like
different
things,
I've
been
working
on
and
then
like,
I
kind
of
just
put
them
together
in
the
last
week
because
it
ends
up
you
end
up
having
to
like
compile
the
data
in
a
way
that
you're
like
trying
to
work
with.
So
I
actually
think
this
is
somewhat.
D
B
C
Yeah-
and
I
think
another
way
that
like
kind
of
the
responsibility
and
work
should
be
distributed,
is
I
think,
squad
leaders
should
be.
You
know
responsible
for
contributing
to
the
like
tracking
their
own
squad,
basically
and
helping
you
or
whoever
is
doing
this
to,
like
you,
know,
review
and
combine
the
reports.
Yeah.
B
Yeah-
and
I
could
have
actually
even
done
that
with
this
one,
like
I
probably
should
have
like
their
questions
about
the
incentives
or
the
like
the
own
squad
funding
where
I
was
like,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
but
like
I
was
just
trying
to
get
this
framework
out,
but
yeah
I've
been
talking
dave
about
what
we
can
kind
of
do
with
this
like
long
term
to.
C
Yeah,
because,
in
terms
of
planning,
it
makes
sense
to
that
the
squad
leaders
should
be
thinking
about
this
in
terms
of
like
what
are
they
going
to
need
into
the
future.
So
right,
you
know
that
feeds
into
you
know,
recruiting
and
bringing
new
people
on
and
that's
you
know
other
kind
of
budget
planning
items.
B
G
B
B
A
All
right,
well,
next
topic
is
actually
lisbon
sponsorship,
so
I
think
by
now
everyone
already
saw,
or
at
least
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
the
sponsorship
opportunities,
and
there
are
mainly
three
tiers
remaining.
The
first
one
is
bronze
at
two
and
a
half
k
dollars.
Well,
actually,
no,
it's
actually
an
euro,
so
two
and
a
half
thousand
euros.
A
The
second
one
is
silver
at
10,
000
euros
and
the
third
one
is
gold
at
20
000
euros,
and
I
would
say
the
the
main
difference
between
the
three
is
kind
of
bronzes
on
the
one
side
is
like
a
support
that
gives
like
two
attendee
tickets
and
one
item
into
the
swa
swag
bag
and
silver
is
actually
where
some
more
stuff
comes
into.
A
So
you
have
a
bit
more
marketing
exposure
and
most
of
all,
you're
able
to
host
a
bounty
at
the
hackathon,
including
some
extra
tickets,
as
well
and
on
the
gold
side,
you're
able
to
hold
two
bounties,
so
we
actually
already
inquired
with
them
about
the
sponsorships,
and
they
were
actually
also
interested
in
hearing
some
ideas
from
us
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
bounties
we
would
like
to
host
at
the
conference,
and
so
if
anyone
has
any
ideas
feel
free
to
shoot
them.
A
My
way,
we
already
had
some
ideas
around
allman,
for
example,
some
automated
smart
contracts
for
liquidity,
pools
or
perhaps
doing
something
for
dow-to-dow
interactions,
some
database
or
accountability
stuff,
but
we're
they're
still
not
been
a
decision
made.
Of
course
we
would
have
to
submit
something
on
chain,
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
here
has
any
thoughts
or
something
they
want
to
share
what
they
think
could
be
good
or
which
option
could
be
good
to
do.
C
A
Yeah,
I
don't
actually
have
any
firm
numbers
on
this
as
well.
I
could
also
just
base
it
on
previous
hackathons
right,
which
I
guess
are
around
the
number
you
mentioned.
I
think
they
also
just
announced
eve
lisbon
right,
so
I'm
not
even
sure
if
they
really
know
how
many
they
will
have,
but
yeah
that's
a
good
point.
I
can
check
with
them
to
see
if
they
have
expectations
of
how
many
people
will
attend.
J
Conference
will
be
and
who
we'll
be
exposed
to
says
in
the
the
document
that
they're
expecting
150
attendees.
J
B
A
Right
yeah
so
well,
I
guess
the
next
step
is
touching
base
to
see
which
sponsorships
are
still
even
available,
because
I
believe
they're
actually
doing
some
selection
based
on
what
type
of
bounties
people
propose.
A
And
then
I
guess
we
can
just
throw
up
a
forum
post
and
put
it
to
a
vote
on
chain
and
see
what
comes
out.
Unfortunately,
we
can't
have
multiple
choice.
Votes
on
on
chains,
so
we'll
have
to
go
to
one,
but.
D
A
Yeah
for
sure
I
so
I
already
inquired
about
the
gold
sponsorship,
so
I
believe
there
was
a
small
informal
poll
in
the
dx
chat
where
gold
kind
of
won
and
the
reply
to
me
saying
that
we
were
interested
in
eventually
getting
the
gold
sponsorship
was
to
send
over
which
boundaries
we
would
host,
because
they
have
apparently
a
couple
of
candidates
who
are
sponsored
gold,
tier,
so
that's
kind
of
where
it's
at.
A
C
Vault
yeah,
I
was
initially
thinking
that
the
gold
sponsor
would
be
a
good
thing
to
do
to
go,
especially
if
we're
doing
like
a
dx
retreat
alongside
it
and
we're
going
to
have
a
big
presence
like
it's.
I
thought
that
might
be
good
messaging.
I
think,
alternatively,
though,
maybe
it's
better
to
spend
funds
on
specific
hackathon
prizes
and,
like
you
know,
chris
was
mentioning.
Maybe
more
of
this
is
going
to
be
about
like
the
surrounding
events,
and
maybe
we
should
focus
more
on
that.
C
I
sort
of
just
think
like
that,
if
we're
going
to
do
something,
though
it's
good
to
go
like
strong
on
it
right
so
like
I
thought,
if
we're
doing
the
sponsorship,
but
then
the
other
question
I
had
is
what
is
really
the
difference
between
the
gold
and
the
silver,
because.
C
Are
the
bounties
restricted
based
on
your
sponsorship,
or
are
you
because
the
gold
says
host
two
bounties
at
the
5k
silver
says
host
a
bounty?
So
are
we
not
allowed
to
add
more
bounties
if
we
don't
have
a
sponsorship
to
go
along
with
it?
That'd
be
one
question
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wasn't
sure
about
is
like
what
does
recruiter
on
site
actually
mean
because
and
like
what's
the
difference
between
you
know
us
and
melanie
all
just
being
there
so.
A
Yeah
and
also
for
the
bounties,
I
think
I
read
it
the
same
way
as
you,
so
you're
actually
restricted
based
on
sponsorships,
right
and
I'll.
Actually,
yeah
I'll
shoot
him
an
email
about
the
recruiter
on
site
to
clarify
what
exactly
that
is,
but
I
think
maybe
at
hackathons
I
guess
don't
they
typically
just
give
out
tickets
to
hackers.
It's
not
like.
A
C
I
would
ask
about
the
bounties
too,
because
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
they
would
restrict
the
number
like
if,
if
people
wanted
to
add
more
prizes,
why
would
they
restrict
that
right?
Like
that's
good
for
the
hackathon,
so.
E
E
Yeah
sorry,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
in
my
experience
on
previous
eth
global
hackathons
yeah,
when
you
sponsor
the
event,
you
can
have
technical
members
with
the
sponsor
with
a
sponsor
watch
there,
like
they
say.
I
know
two
or
three
technical
members
right
off
of
the
exact
that
they
will
be
acting
judges
and
judge,
and
judging
technically
the
all
the
bounties
and
all
the
challenge
and
everything
that
you
presented
as
a
sponsor
right.
So
it
will
make
my
we
should
have
their
technical
members
attending.
But
later
we
can
change
the
batch.
E
A
Yes
sounds
good,
I
guess
I'll
just
circle
back
with
them
to
address
these
couple
of
points,
and
then
eventually
I
guess
we
should
make
a
decision
quite
quick
as
well
as,
of
course,
these
are
also
limited,
but,
as
already
mentioned
before,
there
are
also
a
lot
of
events
around.
So
I
guess
you
know,
even
if
we
don't
go
with
gold
with
them.
There
are
also
other
opportunities
during
that
time
period
to
get
some
exposure,
maybe
host
some
after
parties
or
other
stuff.
A
We
can
do
but
I'll
circle
back
and
then
I'll
probably
pause
the
forum
post
once
I
have
more
information
from
their
side
as
well
and
then
moving
on
to
the
last
agenda,
point
there's
actually
a
call
tomorrow.
A
I
guess
with
prime
dao,
who
posted
a
proposal
on
the
forum
about
a
potential
participation
of
dx
ventures
into
their
token,
offering
which
I
believe
would
be
for
100k
us
dollar
for
0.5
percent
of
their
token,
part
of
which
would
be
unlocked
immediately
and
the
rest
of
which
would
vest
over
two
years
and
primed
out
are
also
like
a
d5
dow
focused
primarily
on
four
products.
A
I
believe-
and
I
believe
sky
already
commented,
with
some
further
potential
collaboration
opportunities
there
and
for
anyone
interested,
I
would
just
suggest
maybe
to
take
a
look
at
the
forum
post
before
the
call
tomorrow
and
I
believe,
there's
a
call
tomorrow
at
4
p.m:
utc
with
primed
out
to
kind
of
discuss
potential
collaboration
opportunities
and
also
explore
whether
or
not
the
accentures
has
an
interest
in
participating
in
this
opportunity,
and
I
believe
some
of
the
dx
star
members
also
met
some
of
the
prime
dial
members
during
the
taoist.
A
D
Oh
yeah
and
tammy
as
well,
but
we
yeah,
we
talked
with
luke
and
felipe
a
bit,
but
for
like
a
while
about
just
like
down
a
dow
relations
and
things
we
could
do.
A
few
ideas
are
outlined
in
the
post.
Some
additional
ideas
are
added,
but
I
agree
that
with
you
know,
I
agree
with
like
the
overall
framing
of
it
really
makes
sense
to
figure
out
the
things
and
come
up
with
ideas
that
we
can
collaborate
on,
but
to
move
forward
on
those
you
know.
D
Maybe
the
investments
instead
for
dxd,
first
for
prime
token
or
something
like,
but
if
there's
some
way
to
align
to
communities
prior
to
to
create
like
incentive
and
ownership
in
each
other's
work
so
like,
if
all
of
a
sudden
we've
invested
in
their
entity,
they're
going
to
be
far
more
inclined
to
put
like
create
a
pool
on
swapper
than
if,
if
there's
just
two
parties
that
have
nothing
connecting
them
right,
and
so
we've
seen
this
with
some
other
dows
in
the
past.
D
But
you
know
things
seem
to
not
move
forward
unless
there's
some
economic
reason
why
it
makes
sense
to
work
together,
and
so
we
can
start
with
collaboration
as
well.
But
aligning
interest
is
a
good
way
to
start.
I
think
too,.
G
Yeah,
it's
also
important
to
know
who
is
behind
prime
down
right
like
if
and
most
importantly,
like
who's
who's
building
products
there.
What
are
like
are
they
clearly
like
long-term
incentivized,
like
sticking
to
prime
down
and
yeah?
C
Yeah-
and
I
agree
with
these
points
like
the
ideas
are
good,
I
think,
but
it's
like
worth
noting
that
they
already
raised
money
for
a
token,
and
there
were
previous
attempts
to
to
work
with
them.
I
think
the
main
concern
I
would
have
too
is
like
yeah
who,
who
is
actually
building
stuff.
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
held
us
back
initially
is
that
they
didn't
really
have
people
building
much
early
on.
D
Yeah,
I
think
you
can
well
they've,
definitely
seemed
to
change
path
from
like
the
initial
idea
of
like
this
aggregator,
which
was
total
or
whatever,
but
they
have.
I
think
you
can
see
in
the
extended
deck
like
a
bunch
of
the
products
that
they
have
been
working
on
and
building
out
and
there's.
You
know
four
pretty
interesting
things
there
that
are
related
to
us
and
the
dow
space
in
general,
and
so
yes,
someone.
Obviously
someone
from
the
community
has
built
and
designed
those
products
and
those
things.
C
Yeah
I
looked
at
the
the
post.
I
haven't
looked
at
the
deck
yet
right
so
like
the
four
products
were
that
was
it
the
lbp
launcher,
the
the
ratings
the
dow
to
dow
stuff,
but
what
what
is
actually
live
and
did
people
know
what's
live
and
usable
today.
C
But
like
so,
this
is
my
experience
with
prime
diary
because
they
launched
like
six
months
since
they
end
of
last
year
right.
They
were
particularly
good
at
marketing
materials
right,
but
I
thought
they
were
rather
weak
when
it
came
to
execution,
and
I
think
we
should
be
careful
like
not
to
just
see
a
deck
and
think.
Oh,
this
sounds
great
and
move
forward.
We
need
to
look
at
what's
underneath.
E
Yeah,
just
in
the
yeah
just
quickly,
you
can
look,
I
mean
if
it
does
leg,
but
it's
empty.
There
is
nothing
there.
They
are
just
selling
us
something
that
shines
and
you
open
it.
There
is
nothing.
So
what
are
we
going
to
contribute?
What
are
we
going
to
collaborate?
What
are
we
going
to
work
with
with
nothing
which
has
a
nice
deck
so.
G
Yeah,
so
one
way
is
to
tell
them
what
we
would
like
to
see
as
like
a
collaboration
point
right.
Being
proactive
about
clear,
clear
goals
together
is
something
which
we
can
consider.
Yeah.
B
H
K
Yeah,
I
think,
for
this
okay,
so
we've
been
talking
about
like
what
is
dx
ventures.
This
is
kind
of
coming
in
under
that
that
hood,
potentially
so,
we've
been
thinking
about
okay,
incubation
projects,
which
are
like
very
beginning
level
projects.
That's
clearly
not
what
prime
tao
is.
There's
like
a
history
there
and
they've
kind
of
had
this
like
rolling
changing.
You
know
community
ownership.
K
So
obviously
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
like
get
to
know
prime
down
and
see
exactly
like
who
are
the
stakeholders
that
we're
gonna
be
working
with
and
when
I
say
that
I'm
almost
mostly
prefacing
this
off
of
like
not
just
dx
ventures
working
with
incubation
projects,
it's
also
like
a
place
for
us
to
like
partner
with
interest
that
would
be
beneficial
to
our
dow.
So
that
would
be
appreciated
if
we
can
look
at
the
pitch
deck
and
say.
Is
this
something
that
we
want
to
partner
with
prime
dow
on
and
like?
K
If
there's
really
nothing,
there
there's
nothing
there
and
we
can
just
like
move
on,
but
if
there's
something
that
we
could
work
with
together
with
them
on
and
it
may
open
other
doors
for
other,
just
other
potential
collaborations
with
their
developers.
G
Yeah
so
well
like
one
clear
thing
we
could
do
is
like
collaborate
on
aqua
aqua
is
not
only
like
a
fixed
price
option,
sale,
sorry
and
like
a
an
auction
platform,
but
rather
basically
an
ico
platform,
and
they
have
experience
in
like
those
liquidity,
bootstrapping
pools.
G
So
one
way
we
can
like
one
project
they
could
like
take
on
is
basically
implement
merging
their
lbp
contracts
with
balancer
into
aqua.
That's
like
a
clear
thing,
which
would
be
amazing
for
us,
because
that
would
be
like
the
third
ico
type
of
sale
on
aqua
and.
C
Another
thing
that
I
think
would
be
a
pretty
clear:
beneficial
collaboration
would
be
under
the
dow
to
dao
relationship
stuff
working
on
co-liquidity
provision
between
taos,
exactly.
K
Okay,
so
those
are
like
two
good
starting
points
and
I
think
they
were
mentioned.
I
don't
know
about
aqua,
but
I
saw
something
in
the
in
the
post,
so
I'm
going
to
look
back
and
sky
will
probably
too
and
just
make
sure
that's
like
reference
so
luke's
aware.
So
when
we
talk
about
it
tomorrow,
maybe
that's
something
we
could
kind
of
discuss
more
and
figure
out.
If
there's
something
there.
C
D
Is
the
this
is
an
issue
in
the
in
our
entire
space
like
theoretically-
and
I
asked
this
question
in
the
channel
or
somewhere-
should
we
like
with
one
hive
and
people
that
are
building
honey,
swap?
D
C
D
K
G
Yeah,
like
I
think
it
would
be
like
it
would
be
beneficial
for
us
if
they
would
integrate
like
the
lbp
functionality
into
aqua
and
the
fact
that
we
have
this
modular
system
in
place,
and
we
will
audit
it
soon
means
they
could
if
they
are
like
smart
or
depending
on
where
they
want
to
go
with
prime
launch
or
whatever
the
product
is
called,
they
could
use
the
contract.
Right,
like
it
doesn't
mean
like
our
stuff,
is
completely
open
source.
G
They
can
do
it
already
right
now,
if
it's
helpful
for
their
platform,
because
if
they
would
adopt
our
system,
they
could
also
like
include
fixed
pricing
and
stuff,
like
that.
So
it
would
be
helpful
for
both
right.
C
Was
that
discussed
with
honey,
swap,
I
guess
today
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
discussed,
that.
D
G
So,
specifically,
those
teams
who
are
building
competitive
things,
it
is
difficult.
I
I
think
everyone
like
sees
the
reason
why,
but
like
I
envision
partnerships
like
with
radical
or
like
even
with
pocket
network,
not
that
we
will
do
a
partnership,
yet
that's
up
to
like
the
external
governance
to
decide,
but
doing
partnerships
with
teams
who
are
like
improving
things
from
our
side,
like
radical,
is
like
decentralized
code
collaboration
that
makes
totally
sense
right,
pocket
network
replacing
inferior.
G
C
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
inherent
friction
when
you
try
to
to
work
together,
but
there's
competing
strategic
interests
right
and-
and
I
think
we've
tried
to
we've
been
open
to
it.
I
don't
think
we're
like
inherently
closed
off
on
that.
I
think
we've
made
some
pretty
big
efforts
in
the
past
to
work
with
projects
that
could
be
competitive,
but
it
just
you
you
hit
snags.
I
think,
because
incentives
kind
of
run
counter.
G
Also,
like
a
very
important
point
we
need
to
make
is
the
guild
will
fix
that
right
like
then,
the
guild
can
be
like
decide.
Sorry
to
do.
Partnerships
with
other
projects
who
are
like
who
have
the
printer
deekstow
has
no
printer
right
now,
and
I
think
the
guilds
with
the
product
tokens
will
have
like
a
such
an
easier
way
of
partnering
because
they
have
a
decent.
D
Amount
of
tokens
the
x
dxdo
has
dxd
token.
For
this
reason,
like
augustus
says
like
we
should
be
using
it
like
what,
if
dxd
holders
don't
want
to
use
dxd
token
for
like
partnerships
and
token
swaps
in
alignment,
what
makes
you
think
that
swapper
token
holders
or
omen
token
holders
are
going
to
want
to
use
omen
token
or
swapper
token
for
the
same
cause.
C
G
That's
not
what
I'm
saying
I'm
saying
the
guilds
will
make
this.
Those
like
things
easier
like
if
we
would
have
the
omen
guild
ready
in
place
when,
like
those
wanted
to
work
together,
it
would
be
easier
because
dxd
was
like
super
undervalued
and
we
we
didn't
want
to
like
sell
10
of
our
tokens
like
it's
really
cheap.
K
But
if
we
had
something
where
it
was
some
sort
of
locking
where
like,
of
course,
you
know,
we
have
to
focus
about
the
price
or
we're
worried
about
the
price,
and
so
we
don't
want
people
like
dumping,
our
tokens
and
stuff,
like
that.
Wouldn't
it
be
okay
to
do
a
swap
when
it's
like,
obviously
we're
taking
their
tokens
and
we're
not
just
like,
with
the
work
token
we're
not
going
to
turn
around
and
sell
them.
The
point
is
to
like
have
alignment
of
interest.
Would
that
be
reasonable?.
C
C
K
C
C
K
Yeah,
it
is,
and
I
mean
I
think,
that's
just
because
that's
how
they
initially
approached
like
just
when
they
talked
to
skyenna
and
myself
and
nylon,
but
that
didn't
really
we
weren't
necessarily
thinking
of
it
like
that.
So
I
think
it's
just
kind
of
the
opening
discussion
point
and
that
there
needs
to
be
more
discussion
as
to
whether
there's
even
interest
in
some
sort
of
alignment.
That
may
not
be
like
an
investment,
because
I
don't
really
personally
see
the
reason
to
just
invest
and,
like
I
said,
I
thought.
K
Dx
ventures
was
more
like
an
incubator,
plus,
maybe
partnerships,
but
I
think
with
partnerships.
We
need
to
find
more
alignment
than
just
like
giving
money,
but
that's
my
personal
opinion,
but
I
thought
maybe
we
could
look
more
specifically
at
like
what
we
can
work
with
them
on
to
kind
of
just
keep
collaborations
open
with
other
dow
communities
and
if
there's
something
meaningful
there.
C
G
Yeah
like
in
tomorrow's
call,
will
he
go
like,
or
will
the
team
go
through
the
projects
like
I'm
specifically
interested
in
like
what
they're
building,
because
that's
the
most
important
part
of
that
yeah
and.
G
Was
very,
like
I
mean
yeah,
there
was
like
those
pitch
decks,
but
I
would
like
to
go
more
deeper
into
like
how
they
want
to
like
earn
money,
how
they
make
profits
with.
A
Right
all
right
guys
we're
also
running
up
on
the
hour
so
for
anyone
who's
interested.
The
call
is
tomorrow
at
4pm
utc
and
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
the
governance
call
and
have
a
great
evening
if
you're
based
in
europe,.