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A
Somewhere,
like
any
one
with
a
lot
of
gen,
could
just
come
in
and
like
do
a
griefing
attack
on
anyone,
so
they
lose
like
whatever
gen
they
have
staked.
B
You
know
so
you
don't
lose
yeah,
just
how
everybody
has
the
recording
is
now
on
and
to
address
that,
so
you
don't
lose
the
gen
that
you
stake
if
the
proposal
isn't
actually
boosted.
So
if
it
simply
expires,
everybody
who's
staked
is
refunded
there
or
can't
get
their
gen
back.
Is
that
what
you're,
saying
or
you're
talking
about
griefing
the
dao
by.
A
Spamming,
yeah,
that's
more
so
what
I
was
saying,
but
I
guess
if
they
I
guess
they
don't
get
any
gen
like
if
they
don't
have
a
reward
for
it.
I
guess
there's
no
reason
to
do
that.
B
B
I'm
actually
excited
about
this
because
I
think
it's
gonna.
This
is
going
to
encourage
people
to
learn
about
dastak
and
pay
attention
to
the
to
the
mechanics
of
how
holographic
consensus
works
and
then
like
how
the
dow
works
at
coding.
B
So
it
looks
like
somebody
downstate
can
have
somebody
upstate
it
again
and
it's
now
back
into
the
pending
boosting
state.
This
is
another
thing
I
don't
love
about.
The
ui
is
that
it's
broken
into
three
sections
under
the
where
you
click
onto
a
plug-in
and
the
bottom
one
says
regular
proposals
and
then
it's
pending
and
and
boosted.
Regular
to
me
is
a
weird
name,
because
really
these
are
three
different
states
of
all
the
same
types
of
you
know.
B
These
are
all
funding
and
voting
for
our
proposals
and
there's
three
states
it
can
be,
and
one
is
just
like
the
unboosted
state,
that's
like
what
is
under
regular
and
then
there's
the
pending
boosting
state
and
then
the
actual
boosted
state,
and
now
any
proposal
can
pass
immediately
when
absolute
majority
is
reached-
and
this
is
actually
a-
I
say-
absolute
majority,
but
there's
actually
like
a
voting
threshold
that
is
specified
per
plugin.
B
You
can
see
that
in
the
information
it
is
50,
I
think
for
all
the
dx
now
plug-ins
and
so
any
you
know
no
matter
whether
it's
under
boosted
pending
or
regular,
if
it
hits
fifty
percent
immediately,
it
passes
right
where
the
pending
and
the
boosting
come
into
play
is
enabling
the
the
relative
majority.
So
if
something
is
boosted,
it
can
then
pass
by
relative
majority,
but
that
doesn't
happen
that
has
to
have
it
has
to
have
how
to
wear
this,
that
that
is
judged
at
the
end
of
a
certain
period.
B
Right
like
so
there's
a
certain
voting
period
that
gets
opened
when
something
gets
boosted
for
the
main,
continuous
voting
one.
It
is
seven
days.
So
so
what
could
happen
so
right
now,
if
nobody
stakes
or
down
stakes
on
this
halting
the
bonding
card
proposal,
it's
set
to
become
boosted
in
a
little
under
24
hours,
and
then
there
would
be
seven
days
during
which
voting
can
happen,
and
at
the
end
of
that
seven
days
it's
either
gonna
fail
or
pass
based
on
which
has
more
votes
and
yeah
and
yeah
gusta.
B
We
could
probably
talk
about
that.
I
don't
think
they're
like
you
know.
We
have
the
normal
stuff
on
the
agenda
and-
and
we
can
talk
about
that
stuff,
but
I'm
gonna
yeah.
So
I
don't
know
we
can
talk
more
about
the
voting
too,
if
that's
on
people's
minds,
but
just
to
get
going
with
the
normal
agenda
caden.
Do
you
want
to
just
provide
an
open
update.
A
Yeah,
so
actually
I
better
check
the
status
of
the
proposal,
but
1.1.4
proposal
should
be
almost
gone
through
with
the
content
hash.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure.
Actually
how
far
along
that
is
yeah.
A
Okay,
yes,
and
then
that
should
go
through
and
then
meanwhile
we're
working
on
1.1.5
and
working
on
making
changes
to
the
subgraph.
This
looking
at,
like
putting
together
a
road
map
as
well
for
that
yeah,
nice.
C
B
And
you
see
all
the
plugins:
if
you
go
to
the
generic
you
scroll
down,
so
you
can
see
generic
scheme
in
a
public
resolver.
I
actually
just
see
it,
I'm
seeing
it
right
there,
you
can
click
in
there
and
also
see
it,
but
you
can
actually
see
it
at
the
overall
view.
It
shows
the
boosted
proposals.
I
guess
in
this
view-
and
you
can
see
the
amount
of
time
left
on
that
boosted
proposal.
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying.
C
C
B
For
ens,
due
to
the
two,
you
know
the
migration
that
ems
had
there's
actually
two
different
ones.
One,
I
think,
is
actually,
I
think,
we're
done
using
the
public
provider,
one
that
could
probably
be
removed,
but
yeah
under
the
public
resolver
one.
You
can
see
the
two
boosted
proposals,
there's
one
for
the
latest
release
of
moments,
one
for
the
latest
release
mesa
and
on
the
right
side.
There.
You
see
the
amount
of
time
remaining
for
that
boosted
period.
C
B
B
You
know,
I
think
it's
great,
that
everybody
should
pay
attention
to
these
votes,
but
if
the
vote
is
going
the
way
you
think
it
should
go
personally,
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
incentives
to
like
also
spend,
especially
today
with
high
gas
fees
like
to
spend
the
ten
dollars
or
whatever
also
put
your
vote
in
yeah.
B
Okay,
so
then
moving
along
there's
also
been
another
release
of
of
mesa.
A
couple
updates.
There
fixes
a
couple
of
like
edge
case
bugs
some
people
are
having
it's
kind
of
an
edge
case
when
some
people
are
having
trouble
claiming
it
fixes
that
there's
also
a
confirmed
confirmation
model
for
new
orders,
so
that
people
are
confirming
the
prices
you
know,
even
with
the
updates.
B
B
It
was
an
interesting
week
because
there
was
an
ideo
that
occurred,
which
the
dxnow
like
had
you
know
no
communications
really
about
ingomar.
I
think
you
had
actually
tried
to
make
some
contact
with
the
team
and
they
kind
of
shot
you
down,
which
is
rude,
and
then
they
did
not
communicate
with
the
team
prior
to
the
sale.
B
B
You
know
just
I
think
ancho
actually
already
provided
it
in
the
key
base,
but
just
confirmation
from
some
of
the
gnosis
engineers
that
there
was
in
fact
no
problem
with
gnosis
protocol
or
mesa,
which
I
don't
think
there
was.
I
think
there
was
no
actual
technical
issues
for
the
platform
and
now
that
we,
you
know,
have
confirmation
on
that.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
communicate
something
to
the
world.
That's
just
you
know
something.
D
B
Like
to
the
effect
of
you
know,
the
proper
way
to
do
this
is,
is
this
you
know
and
and
base
and
reassert
that
mason's
working
fine
knows
his
protocol
working
fine.
It
still
makes
sense
as
the
venue
for
ideos
and
yeah
just
help
make
sure
people
still
have
faith
in
that
so
yeah,
that's,
I
think,
that's
it.
Does
anybody
have
anything
else
they
wanted
to
add
on
on
mesa.
A
Well,
in
terms
of
like
preventing
something
like
that,
I
think
we
should.
I
don't
know
what
we
actually
do
currently,
but
I
like,
I
think,
it's
good
to
implement
kind
of
what
uniswap
does
where
if
you
have
like
they
have
a
set
token
list
and
then
kind
of.
If
someone
adds
token
it'll,
have
this
big
warning,
it's
kind
of
like
you
know,.
B
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
I
I
do
know
what
you're
talking
about
unit
swap
has
a
warning
that,
like
I
mean
in
fact
you
you
have
to
see
it
with
dxd.
You
have
to
paste
in
the
address
and
there's
a
big
little
modal
that
pops
up
and
says
we
don't
know
what
this
is
and
you're
like
you
know,
agree
that
you're
taking
the
risk
with
this
and.
E
Even
after
you,
even
after
you
add
it,
they
always
give
you
the
option
to
remove
it
whenever
you're
trying
to
do
it,
I
think
yeah.
I
think
we
should
just,
I
think,
uniswap
has
kind
of
shown.
The
way
of
how
to
like
you
know
quote,
be
permissionless,
allow
these
things
to
happen,
but
kind
of
have
some
basic
level
of
caution,
and
I
guess
the
two
there's
a
proactive
stance
and
a,
I
guess,
not
proactive
if
we
just
have
a
curation
list
right,
if
you
just
have
these
are
all
the
good
things.
E
That's
one
way
or
second
is
like
going
out
of
our
way
to
say
we
don't
know
about
this
one.
Putting
the
warning
on
that-
and
I
guess
unisoft
does
the
warning
and
that
could
be
more
effective
right,
because
then
projects
would
want
to
approach
the
dx
dial
purely
to
be
like.
We
want
to
get
this
warning
label
off
of
our
token
on
this
site
and
that
you
know
could
be
a
thing
that
would
bring
them
into
the
fold
more.
B
Yeah,
absolutely
we
I
mean
we
can
put
that.
I
think
as
a
feature
request
on
like
there's.
No
reason
we
can't
add
that
for
mesa
and
we
should-
and
I
I
actually
had
a
call
to
also
like
in
on
the
topic
of
mesa
and
this
protocol.
I
had
a
call
this
morning
with
someone
from
gnosis
and
confirmed
that
they
are
working
on
a
proposal
to
the
external
on.
B
You
know
how
to
align
incentives
between
gnosis
protocol
and
like
dx,
tao
and
mesa
and
and
looking
forward
to
eventually
seeing
something
from
them.
Well,
I
think
there's
a
couple
ideas,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
approach
they
may
take.
I
suspect
it'll
have
something
to
do
with
gno,
but
we'll
see
we
have
to
just
wait
and
see
from
them.
B
D
Yes
sure,
I'm
going
to
share
the
topic
on
download
that
I
created
with
the
version
0
2.0,
so
it
was
deployed
on
coven.
We
all
the
changes
needed.
Also
now
we
are
calculating
like
the
swap
fees
and
the
protocol
fees.
Important
stuff
is
that
we
are
showing
the
swap
fee
when
you
are
when
you
are
trading
swapping
tokens
in
the
protocol
and
then
the
liquidity
fee,
which
is
we
call
it
photography
when
you
add
and
remove
liquidity.
D
I
shared
there
what
I
have
done.
The
next
steps
that
are
going
to
be
taking
that
is
deploying
to
koban,
alongside
with
the
with
the
excel
uncover,
and
that
is
still
that
also
the
dxo
uncovered
is
required
by
by
people
to
to
start
testing
the
and
the
wiki
he
developed
yeah.
That's
the
next
thing
that
I'm
going
to
be
working
for
the
for
the
next
week.
Is
there
you
can
you
can
enter
and
test
it?
D
There
is
a
link
to
the
tokens
that
you
can
use
for
testing
is
they
have
funding
like
we
know,
chinos
chinos,
something
that
they
are
or
register
pools.
You
can
go
there,
use
it.
If
you
need
coven
for
testing,
you
can
just
send
me
your
address
and
it's
in
your
command.
Yeah
thanks
sky.
He
reported
some
some
issues,
so
if
you
guys
can
go
ahead
and
test
it,
I
know
there
is
already
a
lot
of
people
is
required,
for
maybe
we
can
change
the
colors
like
I
have
a
new
palette
of
colors.
D
D
That's
it
go
ahead
test
it
because
I
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
test
it
right
now
that
we
feel
how
how
it
works
and
anything
that
you
guys
see
that
any
change
that
you
want
to
propose
just
combining
the
on
the
on
the
topic
that
that
is,
shared
and
or
like
sky
did,
that
he
created
the
issues
and
then
I'm
going
to
fix
them
or
maybe
make
the
changes
if
they
are
accepted
by
the
community.
E
Yeah
and
just
add
on
augusta
gave
a
great
presentation
on
tuesday
the
dev
call
on
that.
It
was
really
just
kind
of
exciting
to
see
that
live
and
also
have
a
call
tomorrow
at
11
to
discuss
strategy
launch,
and
it
would
be
great
actually
if
we
could
probably
just
do
like
another
demo
of
it
again
just
to
see.
If
anyone
has
any
questions,
we
got
to
get
the
testing
of
it
and
then
it's
just
tomorrow
at
11am
east
coast,
us
time.
E
Yeah
kind
of
yeah,
so
last
friday
was
kind
of
for
some
kind.
I
had
a
dx
swap
almost
not
just
for
the
technical
side,
more
of
like
okay
kind
of
how
it's
rolling
out
and
to
me
there
were
kind
of
three
big
things
discussed.
One
is
liquidity
mining
and,
to
be
honest,
I
think
we're
kind
of
still
all
over
there
there's
interest,
but
there's
kind
of
a
lot
of
ideas
flowing
out
there
and
things
are
changing
a
lot
that
I
think
that
we're
still
figuring
out
what
exactly
to
do.
E
Two
is
fees
and
just
the
fee
structure
and
kind
of
how
that's
really
but
that'll,
be
just
like
some
difference
with
unit
swap
and
be
noticeable,
and
then
three
is
on
content
and
strategy
and
just
kind
of
positioning
it
as
the
I
guess,
forking
unit
swap
and
kind
of
being
open
with
that
and
kind
of
tying
it
in
to
decentralization
tying
it
into.
E
I
think
the
open
source
movement
in
general
and
also
kind
of
linking
it
back
to
the
the
like,
for
you
know,
fork
this
too
right
just
kind
of
how
how
how
forks
can
kind
of
go
all
the
way
down
so
kind
of
thinking
about
the
content
and
strategy
there
and
then
just
like
kind
of
one
more
thing
to
add
on
in
terms
of
kind
of
the
liquidity
mining.
The
strategy
or
kind
of
partnership
angle
is
thinking
about
what
specific
pairs
can.
E
Dx
swap
go
after
to
try
to
drive
liquidity
in
the
early
stage
and
so
still
still
working
on.
How
exactly
to
do
that.
But
I
think
liquidity
mining
would
be
a
part
of.
B
That
also
in
terms
of
product
feedback,
I
noticed
that
somebody
made
a
comment
on
the
dow
talk
post
this
morning
with
some
ideas.
There,
too,
I
haven't
really
had
a
chance
to
digest
it
van
saying
in
the
chat
you
know
we
should
be
focused
on
very
few
pairs.
B
C
Should
we
come
up
with
an
idea
of
how
much
funding
from
dx
dow
to
put
in
when
it
initially
launches,
like
the
actual
numbers?
What
is
it,
what
is
a
good
safe
amount.
B
B
I
mean
the
the
thing
too
with
unicef
is
you
have
to
match
the
amount
of
ether
that
you
put
in
right
so
that
may
somewhat
limit
what
makes
sense
to
send
from
the
treasury.
F
E
Right,
yeah,
no,
the
only
thing
sky
we
did
kind
of
like
two
or
three
weeks
ago,
put
some
initial
numbers
on
that,
but
that
was
a
like
the
first
time
we
talked
about
it
and
b.
I
think
the
treasury
is
like
a
little
bit
bigger
now,
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
talk
about
tomorrow
and
then
maybe
that
will
roll
in
with,
like
the
treasury
discussion
on
the
allocation
for
that.
But
that's
the
that
was
like
the
dock.
E
I
just
shared
is
the
old
liquidity
mining
notes
that
we've
worked
with,
I
think,
starting
from
last
week,
and
then
just
I
think
it
was
van
mortals
or
someone
or
not
john
the
the
post
about
the
I
guess
it
was
like
a
skin
on
top
of
uniswap
or
something
it
was
trying
to
provide
better
services.
I
think
that's
a
good
example
of
like
something
that
should
be
able
to
just
integrate
auto.
E
You
know
with
geek
swap
from
the
beginning
and
try
to
you
know
thinking
about
those
like
partner,
not
really
partners
right
now,
they're,
really
just
aggregators
right.
The
aggregators
in
some
wallets
are
really
the
only
people
that
kind
of
like
plug
in
to
unit
swap
and
obviously
some
trading
systems,
but
just
thinking
about
those
systems
that
dx
swap
could
just
plug
in
because
they're
completely
agnostic
to
anything
but
price
and
like
if
you
have
the
best
price
gig
swap,
has
the
best
liquidity.
Then
it'll
just
slowly
build
that.
E
B
And
buddha
is
asking
in
the
chat
you
know
about
potentially
implementing
munich
swaps
feature
moon
swaps,
a
new
amm
release
by
one
inch
and
and
yeah
and
august
is
saying
you
know,
maybe
in
the
future.
Basically
and
yeah
I
mean
this
moon
swap
is
very
new
right.
It's
been
released
in
the
last
few
weeks
and
the
dx
swap
has
been
being
worked
on
for
a
couple
months,
so
I
think
you
know
first
things.
B
D
No,
there
is
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
need
that
we
need
to
discuss.
I
don't
want
to
throw
more
things
that
we
need
to
discuss
here
on
this
call,
but
yeah
tomorrow
join
tomorrow,
call
to
talk
about
the
x-rap.
G
We
have
at
least
two
like
really
interested
projects
that
are
interested
in
ideoing
on
mesa
and
potentially
being
like,
like
the
first,
like
dex
liquidity
pool
being
on
dx
swap,
and
I
think
that
would
be
like
really
big.
That
would
bring
like
two
communities
over.
We
have
exclusive
exclusivity
on
these
token
pairs,
that'll
draw
attention,
they'll
say:
oh,
what
else
is
on
there?
Dxd
cool,
oh
ether,
cool,
oh
usdc,
cool,
and
I
think
that's
really
important.
G
So
we
also
have
like
the
I'm,
also
in
a
group
of
dxd
investors
and
like
they
have
connections
with
other
projects
that
they
would
like
to
bring
on
board
so
like.
We
could
really
open
the
floodgates
when
we
have
alignment
with
them
and
it's
kind
of
like
a
separate
issue.
I
know
they
have
like
some
criticism
on.
D
G
On
the
dx
trust
curve,
but
like
we
can
have
two,
we
can
have
two
like.
We
can
get
started
with
like
the
ideas
as
soon
as
we
know
when
the
launch
date
of
dx
swap
is
like
the
date
and
we
can
like.
We
can
vote
the
tokens
into
the
mesa
registry.
G
G
E
Definitely,
I
think,
with
ibos,
especially
like
trying
to
get
them
involved,
that's
a
a
good
one
and
especially
for
like
assuming
maybe
they
want
to
do
an
ido
and
then
they
probably
want
to
launch
some
liquidity
mining
campaign
right,
and
so,
if
that
pool
that
they
wanted
people
to
provide
to
was
on
dx
swap
and
then
they
could
adjust
the
fees
themselves
and
actually
govern
the
pool.
I
think
it's
yeah,
just
a
really
great
product.
B
Yeah
and
bow
down
yet,
but
I
recommend,
checking
out
that
dow
talked
thread
that
I
linked
to
above
about
that
was
kind
of
the
original
post
that
we
had
on
forking
unit,
swap
that
has
some
more
detail
in
terms
of
what
what
advantages
or
what
differentiates
tx
swap.
But
the
basics
of
it
are
governance
like
we're.
Adding
governance
of
the
fees
unit
swap
has
a
fixed
fee.
C
Oh
yeah
augusta,
I
don't
know,
I
didn't
see
if
you
answered
me,
but
can
you
make
the
fee
anything
you
want,
or
is
it
just
between
zero
and
point
three
percent
on
between.
D
D
0.3
percent:
that's
a
yeah!
That's
a
range
of
values!.
B
D
B
C
D
Yeah,
do
we
want
to
have
a
do?
We
want
to
have
that
option?
The
we
are.
We
are
using
the
range
of
fees
in
order
to
be
always
compared
with
with
here
with
uni
swap
in
the
code
level,
but
if
we
want
we
can
change
and
remove
that
limit.
E
Because
we
want
to
be
competitive
with
unit
swap
on
the
trader
side,
but
also
on
the
liquidity
provider
side
and
the
higher
like
the
higher
fee,
especially
in
times
of
volatility
and
like
assets
that
are
volatile,
can
help
like
prevent
against
in
permanent
loss.
So
I
know
that
actually
I
think
this
is.
This
is
probably
like
the
weakest
one
of
the
weakest
things
unit
swap
has
as
going
for
from
a
liquidity
provider.
Perspective
is
just
the
exposure
the
fee
you,
the
fees,
don't
justify,
like
the
permanent
loss.
B
C
Yeah
as
long
as
you
don't
think,
there's
a
risk
like
let's
say
you
make
the
max,
so
it
could
be
zero.
I
mean.
Maybe
you
can
even
go
negative,
that'd,
be
cool
but
let's
say
zero
to
ten
percent
max.
Just
so
you
unless
you
could
have
100
max,
but
if
there's
a
risk
to
that,
that
also
has
to
be
taken
into
account.
E
I
feel
like
dx
swap,
wants
to
have
like
very
very
low
fees
and
maybe
very
very
high
fees
right
because
you're,
like
you
know,
people
are
interested
in
different
ways.
So
yeah
I
mean
that
flexibility
is
just
something
that
hopefully
we
can
like
sell
to
projects
to
people,
and
so
just
all
the
little
you
know
things
that
they
could
do
to
customize,
it
would
would
would
be
cool.
E
I
know
it's
just
more
work,
though,.
C
Because
right
now,
yeah
you're
gonna
see
that
play
out
on
omen
as
well.
Where
you
can
you
now
have
the
option
to
set
your
fee
percentage
and
you're
gonna
see
lots
of
different
use
cases,
because
two
percent
fee
on
omen
doesn't
seem
right,
and
so
I
think,
there's
people
creating
ones
with
higher
fees.
B
That
sounds
good
and
just
to
make
a
quick
update
on
rails.east
federico
has
a
worker
proposal
that
is
boosted
and
live
and
has
some
votes
for
so
you
know
hopefully,
he'll
be
working
on
that
soon
and
we'll
have
rails
that
eat
live
before
too
long.
I'm
guessing
you
know
like
maybe
one
month
or
so.
B
Shall
we
move
now,
just
to
recap
the
calls
and
then
we
can
spend
the
rest
of
the
time.
You
know
maybe
discussing
onboarding
and
you
know
potentially
voting
if
we
if
people
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
pausing,
the
current
proposal
but
yeah
angermark.
Do
you
want
to
just
recap
the
biz
tip.
G
G
All
right,
so
what
do
we
talk
about
cheryl
from
deeper
network?
It's
like
a
hardware
based
vpn
network.
G
G
They're
based
in
santa
clara,
apparently
loop
ring
is
an
investor
in
that
project,
which
is
interesting,
and
I
I
contacted
matt
to
confirm
that
I
haven't
heard
from
him
yet
and
they're
incubated
by
republic.
G
So
that's
a
very
well
known,
I
guess
accelerator
or
investment
income,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
very
big
name
with
reputable
people,
so
I
think
they
do
have
some
credibility,
even
though
they're,
like
their
business
model,
is
like
kind
of
hard
to
understand
and
their
website
is
like,
but
it
does
seem
like
an
honest
project
with
real
people
and
something
that
I
would
I
would
lean
towards.
You
know
being
down
with
like
a
a
mesa.
Ido
might
need
to
do
a
little
more
research.
G
We
also
had
plotus
they're
an
amm
prediction.
Market
platform
specifically
focused
towards
like
crypto
trading
and
prices,
so
like
what
what
price
will
bitcoin
be
by
low
level,
mainly
just
for
that
and
speculators,
so
they
they
need
an
arbitrator.
They
also
need,
like
a
community,
to
govern
their
their
platform
and
and
the
representative
throughout
the
idea
of
allotting
some
governing
power
in
the
form
of
tokens
to
the
dxtap,
which
I
think
would
be
really
cool.
G
I
I
guess
it
would
be
a
substantial
amount
to
have
some
some
say
some
plurality
in
the
governance
to
start,
at
least
as
you
know,
he
admires
how
well
we've
done
and
how
well
we
govern
holmen
and
he
doesn't
really
see
omen
as
like.
A
real
competitor,
because,
like
prediction,
markets
can
cover
all
types
of
subjects.
G
They
really
focus
like
on
one
specific
thing,
whereas
almond,
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
have
like
a
specialty
market.
So
we
may
not
really
compete
in
that.
In
that
respect,
so
I
think
a
collaboration
between
the
dx
downloaders
would
be
would
be
really
cool
and
I
think
the
net
would
net
a
lot
of
tokens.
G
So
we
had
an
extensive
talk
on
dxd
holders.
Having
voting
power,
I
you
know
there
was
pretty
much
some
consensus
on
either
placing
restrictions
on
the
dx
trust
on
how
much
dxd,
dements
or
or
just
ending
it
entirely.
So
there
was
like
varying
opinions
on
that.
G
There's,
currently
a
a
proposal
on
alchemy
regarding
that,
and
it
just
got
unboosted
last
minute,
which
is
interesting
and
we
discussed
keith
smith's
worker
proposal
for
some
length
is
he's
a
pretty
recent
member
showing
up
on
these
calls
and
the
forums,
so
that
was
that
was
about
it
for
the
bb
call.
D
Yeah
well,
arsenal
knows
we
were
talking
about
the
mesa,
no
menu
releases,
vx
swap.
I
think
it
was
before
no
yeah.
It
was
before
I
published
the
exhaust
on
coven,
then
something
that
we
were
talking
about
that
we
haven't
discussed
yet
is
different
strategies
for
refunds
of
gas
prices
of
gases
was
spent
powering
staking
and
creating
proposals.
D
We
are.
We
are
working
with
nico
on
an
script
and
a
smart
country
that
we
are
going
to
use
that
we
are
going
to
propose
to
use
to
refund
gathered,
was
spent
involving
and
staking
and
creating
proposals
in
a
period
of
time.
But
then
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
implement
to
test
and
implement
on
like
on
chain
gas
refund,
on
new
voting
machine
implementation
that
we
are
going
to
be
testing
on
cover
so
yeah.
That
is
what
we
were
talking
about.
B
Thanks
agusto,
yes,
yeah
we'll
have
to
make
a
dow
talk
post
to
kind
of
explain
what
the
this
one
could
enable
with
the
gas
reimbursement,
basically
the
problem
being
that
with
really
high
gas
costs,
it's
a
huge
disincentive
for
people
to
participate
in
voting
governance,
and
obviously
governance
is
pretty
key
to
dx
now,
so
the
devs
are
basically
presenting
an
option
here
where
the
dow
could
actually
reimburse
you
know
a
percentage
or
maybe
the
whole
gas
cost
for
for
voters.
Okay,
with
that,
chris,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
governance
call.
E
Sure
I
wrote
long
notes,
so
you
can
read
them
so
I'll,
just
briefly
go
over
them
here.
Gxd
voting
rights,
kind
of
the
topic
of
the
last
couple
weeks
and
the
two
kind
of
more
concrete
ideas
floating
around
now
are
the
erc20
guild,
which
would
basically
have
voting
for
dxd
holders,
and
then
they
would,
as
a
chunk,
be
able
to
have
a
say
in
the
regular
rep
or
secondly,
geeksd
lock
for
rep
further
discussion
on
the
curve.
E
As
what
ingomar
said
and
then
yeah
picking
up
a
discussion
over
the
last
couple
weeks
on
the
treasury
and
we'll
kind
of
move
that
forward
with
a
more
a
holistic
plan
that
has
some
diversification
and
also
includes,
maybe
some
allocation
for,
like
a
liquidity
mining
campaign
or
for
any
of
the
dx
style
products
manifesto
is
moving
pretty
forward,
is
almost
done.
It's
open
for
I'll,
put
paste
link
in
here
open
for
comments.
E
I
think
I
need
to
I'm
going
to
post
this
onto
the
thread
that
I
think
skies
started
so
that
it's
more
in
the
forums
as
an
official
one
and
then
talking
about
where
that
gets
posted.
Obviously,
I
think
it's
gonna
be
proposal
would
be
great
to
have
something
linked
on
the
main
website.
I
also
think
it
might
be
an
opportunity
for
the
dx
dow
itself
to
try
to
figure
out
one
of
those
decentralized
blogging
service,
so
that
could
be
something
that
was
like
the
medium
for
the
da
staff
and
then
yeah.
E
The
governance
as
a
service
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
reimbursing
voters
for
high
gas
cost
and
then
looking
for,
I
said
dx
ambassadors
or
people
that
can,
I
think,
specifically
for
dmg
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
be
a
more
active
governance
participant
there
and
communicating
what's
going
on
in
dmg
governance
to
the
dx
style
community
and
then
lastly,
interesting
important
discussion
on
proposal
auditing
and
code
auditing
from
john.
You
know
obviously
like
this
morning.
B
You
know
the
topic
of
the
proposal
monitoring
there
are,
and
you
can
look
at
my
post
on
downtime
for
the
details,
but
there
are
three
different
solutions
in
place
to
kind
of
act
as
redundant.
You
know
as
tools
to
make
sure
that
people
are
able
to
see
proposals
and
what's
coming
through
outside
of
just
the
alchemy
ui,
so
that
we're
not
entirely.
D
B
On
the
alchemy,
ui,
okay,
great
with
with
that
I
know,
augusto
had
mentioned
onboarding
earlier,
so
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
could
talk
about
that,
and
maybe
we
can
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
bonding
curve
proposal.
B
We
can
maybe
split
the
remaining
time
between
those
two
and
onboarding
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
preface
the
topic
with
just
saying
that
I
myself
and
and
a
few
others
here,
ingomar
chris
and
in
other
devs
and
stuff,
have
been
working
together
on
kind
of
compiling
a
list
I
mean
you
can
think
it's
analogous
to
job
openings
basically
like
what
are
the
needs
of
the
tx
now
in
terms
of
the
products
right,
so
omen
based
dx
swap
the
actual
governance
tools,
like
what
kind
of
help
is
needed
there.
B
Heath
has
increased
the
value
and
therefore
you
know
there's
almost
like
a
new
mandate
or
relatively
like
a
greater
mandate
to
kind
of
ramp
up
some
of
these
efforts,
so
I'll
be
passing
that
around
more
widely
and
and
hopefully
that
can
also
help
to
facilitate
onboarding
and,
like
kind
of
you
know,
lay
the
groundwork
for
how
people
can
get
involved
and
because
I
know
pete
is
on
the
call-
and
you
had
a
proposal
in
doubt
talk
about
a
potential
worker
engagement
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
say
that,
like
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
initiative
there,
I
realize
it's
probably
kind
of
daunting
at
this
point
in
time
with
the
lack
of
process
and
the
lack
of
structure
around
the
whole
thing.
B
H
Yeah,
hey
guys,
it's
me
pete.
Maybe
let
me
just
chip
in
here
because
obviously
I'm
the
one
who's
at
the
center
of
this
discussion,
so
I've
been
involved
in
different
decentralized
organizations
and
projects
since
2018
and
typically
what
happens
is
projects
have
a
blog
post
right?
They
have
a
blog
or
medium
or
something
so
anyone
who's
got.
An
interest
can
read
up
on
this
and,
for
instance,
you
can
specify
anybody
who's
supposed
to
join
or
who
wants
to
join
the
exile
needs
to
disclose
his
identity.
H
That's
also
how
many
other
projects
are
doing
it,
for
instance,
melon.
They
have
a
technical
and
a
business
council
and
they
say
look
if
you
want
to
be
part
of
the
kind
of
advisory
or
management
council.
You
need
to
disclose
your
identity
and
I
think
that's
absolutely
fine.
Now
I
had
pieced
together
information
about
dxdow
through
the
worker
guidelines
and,
through
the
you
know,
the
forum
posts
up
until
today.
H
Actually,
I
don't
even
know
who's
really
you
guys
right,
like
there's
no
team
page,
there's
no
page
of
the
collective,
with
at
least
the
thumbnail
picture.
What
everybody's
doing
I
figured
out
ingemar's
doing
something
with
omen,
then,
chris
and
and
john
are
pretty
much
doing
various
things.
So
that's
like
super
super
difficult,
but
at
the
same
time
conveys
the
impression
that
there
is
no
re
requirement
to
disclose
personal
information
right.
So
take
that
as
an
observation.
H
Just
take
that
in
don't
add
me
just
take
it
in
and
kind
of
meditate
on
it
and
just
change
that,
and
I
also
kind
of
want
to
shortcut
the
whole
discussion
about
my
proposal
a
little
bit.
I
want
to
say
I'm
going
to
take
a
step
back.
H
I've
got
different
priorities,
so
I
need
to
make
a
decision.
I
think
you
guys
sdxdow
you've
got
so
many
other
things
on
the
plate.
You
need
to
prioritize,
especially
now
that
with
andrew
kang
you
have
an
activist
investor.
Well,
in
the
token
holder
structure,
I
wouldn't
call
a
capital
structure,
who's
who's,
probably
going
to
focus
your
attention
more
on
the
dxd
rap
normalization
kind
of
thing
right,
which,
which
is
absolutely
fine.
I
support
that
dxd
rap
was
one
of
my
major
criticisms.
H
H
Is
this
idea
of
being
a
collective
and
which,
by
the
way
in
your
manifesto
you
are
stating
you
should
be
open,
blah
blah
blah,
and
I
always
thought
that
these
conversations,
these
telephone
calls
are
pretty
collaborative,
they're,
pretty
good,
and
then
I'm
posting
something
I'm
reading
something
and,
and
they
sound
rather
negative
and
it's
like
oh
you're,
never
gonna
make
it
and
this
and
this
and
this,
whereas
if
somebody,
if,
if
somebody
disagrees
with
my
contribution
so
far
right-
and
you
can
also
like
make
it
clear-
if
you
expect
the
potential
candidate
of
the
dxd
to
apply
themselves-
then
make
it
clear
they
need
to
contribute
something,
I'm
not
a
developer
by
the
way
augusto,
I
don't
contribute
to
github
repos.
H
I
look
at
business
stuff
which,
by
the
way,
all
of
us
had
discussed
over
the
last
couple
of
chords
so
that
that
was
absolutely
clear.
If
you
guys
think
that
somebody's
contribution
are
not
helpful,
then
verbalize
that
but
don't
just
say:
oh
I've
looked
at
the
dow
talk
and
you
know
I
only
see
20
and
20
entries
20
entries
by
the
way
for
which
I
was
never
paid.
H
That
was
all
like
my
my
good
will
to
show
it
to
you
guys
like
where
I
would
fit
in
so
I'm
kind
of
I'm
kind
of
thinking
what
I've
read.
What
I
thought
about
the
dx
tao
as
a
collective,
you
know
like
being
open.
You
guys
need
to
learn
a
lot.
H
So
that's
why
I'm
not
kind
of
saying
this
in
any
negative
sense
right,
I'm
just
kind
of
one
of
line
like
outline
this,
so
you
guys
can
take
it
in
implement
changes
quickly,
because
these
are
easy
changes
but
but
yeah
like,
for
instance,
the
worker
guidelines
make
these
make
these
more
prominent.
Put
them
on
the
website
make
clear
that
if
somebody
seeks
a
permanent
employment
with
the
dxd,
they
need
to
disclose
the
identity.
Maybe
there's
going
to
be
two
people
from
the
d
star
who
interviewed
them
right.
H
I
met
this
one
dude
from
democrat
in
2018.
He
tells
me
he
flies
around
the
world
to
interview
eye
to
eye
potential
new
members
to
make
sure
that
the
credit
isn't
infiltrated
by
any
kind
of
you
know:
malicious
interest
groups
so
kind
of
put
structure
on
that,
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
dxd
is
about
the
people
right.
It's
about
you
guys
so
yeah
yeah,
so
just
to
kind
of
wrap.
H
This
up,
I'm
going
to
take
a
step
back,
I'm
going
to
be
much
more
passive,
we'll
dial
in
chords
on
a
sporadic
basis,
we'll
follow
the
conversations
but
yeah.
I
think.
First
and
foremost,
you
need
to
kind
of
focus
on
these
processes.
The
kind
of
hr
the
kind
of
people
element
as
well
as
making
sure
these
the
kind
of
restructuring
of
dxd
and
rap
is
happening.
D
Yeah
hola
pit
thanks
yeah
you're
right.
I
think
I
agree
with
you
and
a
lot
of
stuff
that
the
onboarding
process
is
is
not
defined
right.
This
is
our
thing
that
we
are
figuring
out
on
the
way
we,
the
only
thing
we
came
up,
that
is,
the
that
is
still
on
the
work
in
the
is
the
worker
guidelines
and
yeah.
D
Now
now
we
have
these
this
new
discussion
about
how
I
mean,
if,
if
it's
needed
for
someone
to
disclose
his
identity
or
to
or
to
know
them
personally
or
to
be
known
personally
by
the
rest
of
the
workers,
depends
on
the
position
that
he's
going
to
be
working
on.
Is
it
real?
Is
it
a
real
need
or
not?
So
I
think
these
are
very
important
things
that
we
should
discuss
this.
That
is
why
I
broaden
up
the
eye
here
on
the
call
and
yeah
yeah.
D
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
can
discuss
these
guys.
I
curious
to
see
what
other
people
think
and
yeah
then
I
meant
everything
that
we
took
on
there
on
the
post.
I
don't
think
that
20
replies
on
on
the
out
of
post
is
enough
for
someone
to
join
a
full-time
engagement
in
the
in
the
community.
I'm
curious
also
to
think
what
other
people
think
here.
Okay,.
H
But
look
this
is
the
thing
like
it's
not
about
me,
posting
20
replies
or
something
I
have
provided
a
free
page
discussion,
material
tag
on
how
I
see,
for
instance,
omen
could
be
positioned
from
a
target
group
and
how
that
would
translate
into
liquidity
mining.
You
know
and
I've
I've
put
up
a
whole
review
of
the
workers.
H
Guidelines
like
this
is
what
I
actually
really
dislike
about
your
particular
reply
august
though,
and
I
make
this
very
personal,
you
kind
of
just
looked
at
this
one
thing,
and
then
you
said:
oh
it's
instead
of
saying.
That's
why
I
asked
do
you
disagree
or
agree?
Do
you
think
my
feedback
adds
value
or
not?
You
still
have
not
answered
it
because
you
haven't
looked
at
it.
You
know,
that's
what
I
mean
like.
H
If
you
don't
have
anything
to
say,
don't
say
it
if
you,
if
you
think,
oh
you
know
like
or
if
you,
if
you
have
something
negative
about
what
I
produce
then
just
say
it
as
a
matter
of
fact
that
you
disagree
with
something,
then
we
have
a
discussion
basis,
but
don't
say:
oh
20
is
too
little
given
that
I'm
not
being
paid
by
anyone.
This
was
all
based
on
goodwill.
You
know,
so
I
don't
get
this,
and
this
is
like
ridiculous.
This
is
like
outright
impolite.
H
E
You
know
thing
right
now:
it's
mushy,
you
can
kind
of
move
around
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
like
take
in.
You
know
new
people
and
new
ideas
and
be
able
to
do
that.
But
the
problem
also
is
this
collective
right.
E
Now
is
so
since
it's
this,
like
mush
of
all
these
different
things,
it
doesn't
actually
it's
not
very
responsive
to
those
new
things,
so
I
mean
to
to
yeah,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
figuring
out
how
we
absorb
these
new
ideas,
because
also
you
know
if
the
dsl
wants
to
scale
it's
going
to
have
to
figure
out
how
to
bring
on
more
and
more
people.
E
But
there
is
something
about
the
governance
of
the
external,
the
community
of
dick
stout,
that
almost
like
purposely
moves
slow,
and
I
think
that
ability
kind
of
gives
it's
the
ability
to
reach
consensus,
because
consensus
just
takes
time
right
it.
It's
not
so
much
about
coming
up
with
like
the
good
ideas
and
laying
them
out
there.
E
To
you
know
prove
themselves
to
everyone
individually,
but
like
the
way
that
it's
set
up
now,
it's
hard
for
us
to
kind
of
take
in
new
people
without
it
being
that.
So
I
think
this
is
just.
I
know.
E
Like
this
is
part
of
the
process,
at
least
I
mean
I
hope,
kind
of
we'd
love
to
have
you
kind
of
more
involved
on
going
forward
regardless
of
the
level,
but
just
I
feel
like
regardless.
What
happens
to
this
we're
figuring
something
out
now
in
this
process
now,
because
it's
clearly
not
exactly,
as
you
said,
not
living
up
to
the
kind
of
ideals
and
goals
that
we're
trying
to
abide
by.
H
Absolutely-
and
I
know
that
I
was
the
one
who
kind
of
came
up
like
I-
took
the
initiative
and
I've
kind
of
triggered
this
experimental
phase,
and
that's
absolutely
fine,
and
it's
also
for
me
a
new
experience
to
see
how
you
guys
do
it,
but
just
because
you
mentioned
that
the
the
thing
mush
look,
I
I
put
myself
forward
to
help
you
guys
sort
this
out.
Yeah.
E
You
can't,
though,
like
that's
thing:
it's
mush
like
it's
not
like
this
is
just
like.
Oh,
we
got
to
put
the
structure
on
it
like
it's
like
rolls
at
a
certain
period,
and
we
can't,
like
you
know
it's
like
you,
can't
speed
up
some
of
these
things,
and
so
it's
kind
of
like
how
do
we
roll
with
the
same
like
process
and
slow,
and
that's
kind
of
you
know
absorbing
into
the
deep
style,
fold
and
kind
of
figuring
out
what
the?
What
makes
the
dx
dow
ticks
and
basically
like.
How
do
you
really
it's
like?
H
Yeah,
so
I
get
that
because
I
I
think
some
of
the
previous
workout
proposals
that
were
specific
for
let's
say
a
you
know
a
full
stack,
developer
or
ui
developer
for
omen
or
for
mesa
right.
So
it's
very
specific
and
then
there's
maybe
the
existing
workers
who
are
on
that
and
it's
like
two
or
three
and
they
form
a
consensus,
and
they
say
this
guy
did
a
great
job.
It's
really
helping
us
fantastic
right.
I
kind
of
come
in
with
a
business
background
finance
background.
H
I
position
myself
much
more
on
a
higher
level,
and
but
the
the
thing
I'm
trying
also
to
point
out
now
is
that,
of
course,
processes
are
not
as
established
as
we
wish
they
would
be,
but
instead
of
kind
of
saying,
oh,
you
know
pete,
you
have
to
disclose
your
identity.
Otherwise
we
will
not
kind
of
want
to
do
anything
with
you
at
all.
You
should
have
said
look.
What
you
should
suggested
previously
is
is
a
little
bit
too
much
right
now,
but
hey
we
need
this
thing
for
this
onboarding
process.
H
We
give
you
let's
say
I'm
making
up
a
number,
a
thousand
dollars
worth
of
ethereum
to
do
this
over
the
next
couple
of
days
and
weeks.
Right
I
mean
you've
got
four
million
dollars
in
your
treasury
worth
of
ethereum,
probably
more,
you
have
dxd
and
that's
the
conversation
we
had
on
monday,
like
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
this,
and
I'm
kind
of
also
thinking
you
have
to
figure
out
like
what
do
you
want
to
do
with
the
financial
means
that
you
have
in
order
to
execute
on
that
vision,
right.
E
To
to
stick
up
for
the
digs
down
a
little
bit-
and
I
very
much
appreciate
it,
but
augusto
doesn't
speak
for
the
deep
style
right
like
so.
I
think
in
terms
of
like
how
this
is
trying
to
kind
of
you
know,
there's
not
like
some
that
some
collective
and
kind
of
like
come
up
with
a
solution.
You're
like
pete.
You
should
do
this
and
so
like
I
I
even
like
that's
even
that
it's
kind
of
like
there's.
E
There
isn't
even
like
a
default
option,
but
you
know,
I
think
I
think,
on
the
and
I
know
we
can
maybe
would
like
to
hear
someone
else
jump
because
I'm
talking
too
much,
but
I
think
the
the
not
the
anonymous
thing
is
something
we
just
again.
I
haven't
really.
I
think
that
people
have
talked
about
it
but
clearly
have
not
like
come
to
any
consensus.
And
so
then,
if
you
like
kind
of
approach,
the
group
and
there's
no
consensus,
if
you
talk
to
one
person
like
they're
gonna,
say
something
and.
E
E
So
like
for
those
it's
like,
it's
almost
like
you
just
can't
get
consensus
on
that,
but
absolutely
we
need
to
like
figure
out
what
are
the
you
know,
stipulations
for
that
or
what
do
we
kind
of
think
about
that.
H
Yeah,
and
and
and
like
just
to
kind
of
closes
from
my
from
my
point
and
I'm
gonna
drop
off
is
that's
again.
That's
coming
down
to
the
token
structure,
because
I
can't
rally
twitter
behind
me.
I
can't
just
post
like
dxd,
please
guys
support
me
and
everybody
supports
right,
like
that's
one
of
the
problems
like
there's
whatever
like
five
people
who
have
them
have
the
majority
of
rep.
So
that
then
comes
back
to
me
being
like
helpless,
because
to
me
as
an
external
person,
you
guys
as
the
group
and
on
the
endow
talk.
H
You
are
the
dx
dow
in
my
perception
and
I
would
assume,
as
somebody
who's
not
part
of
the
collective
that,
if
augusto
says
no
pete
and
then
he
talks
to
you
chris,
he
talks
to
you
john.
He
talks
to
you
sky
and
then
you
guys
are
like
yeah
yeah
he's
the
new
kid
on
the
block,
I'm
not
to
score
right
like
make
it
welcoming.
If
you
want
to
have
new
people.
B
And
then
I
think
the
other
thing
too
is
that
we
need
to
just
make
this
more
clear.
I
think
to
to
newcomers
is
like
how
do
you
demonstrate
your
skills
right?
Like
it's
hard?
You
know
I
mean
I
personally.
I
think
we
should
respect
people
who
don't
want
to
like
fully
disclose
identity
and
to
me,
like,
I
think
what
makes
the
most
sense
there
is
to
have
some
clear
like
trial
period.
Some,
like
you
know,
like
you
can
without
even
having
to
really
like
you
know,
show
a
resume.
B
B
B
If
anybody
wants
to
talk
about
just
you
know,
if
there's
questions
about
the
mechanics
of
what
would
work,
how
the
voting
would
work
happy
to
talk
more
about
that
and
I've
also,
it's
currently
just
getting
some
peer
review
and
I
need
to
respond
to
comments,
but
I
do
plan
to
publish
a
like
a
somewhat
detailed
post
about
txt
the
bonding
curve
how
it
works.
You
know
what
some
of
the
potential
like
future,
who
knows,
yeah
and
and
in
some
of
the
potential
future,
you
know
directions
that
dxd
go
governance,
etcetera.
G
I
I
brought
up
the
I
wanted
to
say
one
more
thing:
that's
partly
why
I
want
to
push
for
like
a
like
a
bounty
billboard
as
like
a
place
where
someone
can
like
see
like
what
the
dao
needs
and
like
to
be
like
hey.
Can
I
take
this?
Oh
okay,
yeah
sure
and
you'll
get
this.
G
So
there's
like
a
clear,
there's,
a
clear,
valuable
project
that
you
don't
have
to
come
up
with
yourself,
like
the
the
dow
already
kind
of
green
lighted
it
for
anyone
to
take
on
and
then
once
that
you
know
like
there
will
be
someone
still
in
charge
like
like,
for
example
like.
If
someone
wanted
to
come
to
me
and
say
hey,
I
want
to
write
an
article
about
rails
like
cool
like
I'll
work
with
you
on
that
and
like
just
know,
you're
getting
this
and
then
they
deliver.
G
And
you
know
they
do
the
proposal
and
they
get
like
a
little
rep
and
like
that
could
be
like
their
first
like
contribution
and
then
like,
because
it's
valuable
and
we
needed
it
like
the
dao
will
know
that
oh
yeah,
that's
the
guy
who
contributed
this,
and
you
know
this
piece
of
content
or
this
whatever.
That
is
valuable
and
we
still
use.
G
A
B
A
B
E
B
B
It's
not
technically
a
prediction
market,
but
it's
it's
a
it's
like
a
prediction.
Market
and
people
are
basically
staking
or
downstairs
it's
a
paramutual
bet.
Whichever
side
wins,
the
like
people
on
that
side,
the
stake
on
that
side
wins
the
stake
from
the
other
side.
So
like
right
now,
it's
like
4580
gen
on
the
upstate
2250
on
the
down.
If
it
actually
gets
boosted
and
then
say
it
wins,
and
then
the
group
of
people
with
the
4500
upstate
they
would
get
paid
out
proportionally.
B
The
2200
downstairs
the
where
it
differs
from
a
prediction
market.
Is
it
doesn't
matter
matter
where
you
enter?
It's
just
a
perimeter
bet
like
it's
just
paid
out
to
the
other
side.
It
doesn't
matter
if
you
came
in
at
the
last
minute
or
at
the
beginning,
whereas
in
a
prediction
market
the
price
is
moving
right
and
it
matters
like
you're
paying
a
different
price
along
the
way.
E
B
E
B
Stake
is
locked
in
now.
The
only
time
it
will
actually
get
paid
out
is.
If
the
proposal
resolves
to
yes
or
no
and
there's
two
and
the
other
option
that
could
happen
is
it
could
just
expire,
which
is
what
would
happen
if
it
fails
to
boost
and
then
goes
to
it's
actually
a
decent
amount
of
time
until
it
expires
the
gigabyte
saying
here
in
chat
right
like
if
it
fails,
it'll
just
end
up
expiring
and
then
eventually
you
get
your
gen
back.
G
I
don't
think
there's
enough
support
behind
this
proposal,
so
even
if
it
does
boost,
I
think
there
are
still
some
people
like
keeping
an
eye
on
it
and
like
ready
to
download
it
so,
like.
I
think,
that's
what's
gonna
happen,
in
which
case
I
would
like
for
people
who
are
in
strong
opposition
to
just
like,
say
why
or
voice
why
you
know
what
their
concern
is.
So
we
have
a
dialogue.
G
Of
just
like
you
know,
a
long
conversation
about
like
why
this
thing
should
happen
by
a
lot
of
different
people
and
like
it
fails,
even
though
like
no
one,
no
one
like
came
out
and
said
like
why.
E
Well,
I
guess:
was
there
a
long
discussion
I
mean
I
feel
like
stopping.
It
is
a
proactive
move
and
I
know
there
was
like
some
discussion
in
the
forum
last
week
on
both
the
calls
this
week,
but
I
feel
like
the
yeah.
They
feel,
like
the
burden
of
proof,
relies
on
the
people
proposing
making
the
proposal.
C
Yeah,
it's
not
it's
not
even
clear
what
holding
the
bonding
curve
means
as
augustus
mentioning
like
how
do
you
do
it?
What
exactly
does
that
mean,
and
even
if
you
pause
or
halt
it,
if
then
you,
the
dow,
can
restart
it?
What
is
pausing
or
halting
it
for
like,
let's
say
six
months,
what
does
that
even
do.
B
E
B
Right,
that's
the
only
thing
that
happens
on
chain,
but
I
mean
it
would
make
clear
that
the
doubt
wants
to.
I
mean
that's
basically,
a
mandate
for
the
for
the
the
devs
to
make
sure
that
this
is
that
it
will
happen
right
that
we
do
and
then
so.
I
was
saying
this
earlier
in
the
chat,
but
so
this
is.
This
does
not
enact
the
pause
right
for
the
pause
to
actually
happen.
B
The
exact
mechanics
of
how
that
can
happen
is
there's
a
parameter
called
the
minimum
investment
amount
for
the
curve,
and
so
the
dx
now
actually
can
change
this
parameter
and
if
it
changes
it
to
be
really
high
that
effectively
prevents
any
buys
from
happening
on
the
curve.
The
curve
would
still
be
there.
You
can
still
sell
into
it.
We
still
send
the
revenue
through
it,
so
everything
would
work
it
just
wouldn't
meant
new
dxd
people
buy
on
it
could.
B
It's
extra
work
because,
even
though
the
dsl
owns
the
bonding
curve,
the
plug-in
to
interact
with
it
has
actually
not
been
built
yet.
So
the
first
step
is
to
build
the
plug-in
like
the
scheme,
the
does
like
scheme
that
interacts
with
the
bonding
curve,
which
we
should
be
doing
anyways
and
it's
not
like
a
super
hard
thing
to
do.
B
D
You
know
this
is
this
is
crazy,
because
the
way
that
we
design,
I
mean
not
the
way
that
we
design
because
it
was
defined
by
farming,
but
the
way
the
contracts
are
designed
is
to
so
every
time
that
you
buy
to
the
cure
you're
going
to
generate
more
dxe,
which
is
going
to
decrease
the
value
because
you're
going
to
have
more
dxe
active.
D
Actually
no
no
project
has
I
I
don't
know
if
any
pressure
have
something
in
this
world
farming,
but
it
kind
of
controls
the
growing
of
the
price,
and
so
it
doesn't
go
too
high,
too
quick,
but
but
also
controlling
the
amount
of
dlc.
That
is,
that
is
an
existence
and
by
holding
it
yeah
we
won't
be
generating
any
more
dxe
which
will
kind
of
increase
the
value,
but
we
will
steep,
we
will
stop
receiving
money.
The
organization
who
supports
dxe
will
stop
receiving
more
ether.
D
That
later
can
be
used
that
we
are
going
to
need.
I
think
we
are
going
to
need
a
lot
of
eater
a
lot
of
funds
to
to
provide
equity
for
the
exwept,
so
there
is
a
we
can
find
needs
for
all
these
money
that
we
are
going
to
raise
thing
is
just
we
haven't
found
it
yet,
because
this
is
just
a
few
months
old
so
which
are.
D
Imagine
that
we
start
the
cube
again
at
67,
60
cents
per
ether
and
it's
being
traded,
80
cents,
so
how
that
will
impact
the
our
token
economy.
This
is
going
to
be
a
huge
impact
later
this
week
up.
If
we
want
to
study
again
so
yeah
the
idea,
this
was
done
in
a
way
where,
if
you
you
know
you
don't
stop
the
cube,
you
just
sell
tokens
back.
That
is
what
they
should
be
proposing.
I
think
like
saying:
okay,
let's
sell
back
one,
some
of
our
dxe
or
we
burn
it.
D
You
know,
okay,
how
much
so
can
we
generated
these
past
months?
Okay,
let's
burn
half
of
them,
something
like
that
to
also
increase
the
the
ether
reserve
in
the
in
the
dfc
trust,
because
all
the
ether
that
we
have
most
of
it
is
in
our
yes
in
our
organization
treasury
should
we
move
some
of
it
to
our
tx
plus.
E
Yeah,
the
only
thing
I
would
add
is,
I
think
this
is
it's
clear
that
this
is
a
big
would
be
a
very
big
move
and
require
a
lot
of
technical
work,
a
lot
of
consensus
reaching,
and
so
I
guess
kind
of
the.
I
find
this
interesting
as
like
a
way
for
how
would
that
process
start
right,
and
so
how
does
the?
E
How
would
the
dx
now
start
to
signal
that,
and
you
know,
presumably,
if
this
proposal
passed,
that
would
be
a
very
bullish
that
would
probably
lead
to
a
run-up
in
in
txd
price,
so
like
thinking
about
how
the
dxo
like
gives,
what
they
call
the
central
bank
world
forward
guidance
on
like
things
that
it's
considering
things
that
it's
trying
to
work
on.
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
that,
because
it
would
be
such
a
kind
of
big
shift
to
the
way,
a
lot
of
things
are
structured.
B
B
You
know
it
could
be
that
they're
against
it
and
they
don't
want
it
to
be
boosted,
but
it
could
also
be
that
they
just
thought
it
was
too
fast,
and
you
know
I
mean
who
knows
right
like
why
they
they,
who
whoever
downstated,
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
think
like
yeah
to
anglebars,
but,
like
dialogue,
is
important
about
this
and
we
have
been
talking
about
it,
but
it
would
be
a
very
big
move
and
like
we
can
have
that's.
D
B
G
Another
thing
like
we
could
start
it
back
up
just
the
same
process
as
stopping
it
from
what.
As
far
as
I
know,
only
thing
is
if
we
were
started
back
up
like
it
resumes
from
the
price
that
we
stopped
it
so
like
in
a
year
like
a
few
months.
We
resume
it
like
it'll,
be
a
discount
from
like
a
market
price.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
change
that
it
probably
isn't.
But
it's
something
to
think
about.
G
G
That's
also
what
the
dxd
group
I'm
in
is
complaining
about
now,
because
actually,
the
market
price
does
surpass
the
curve
price
and
people
do
arm
between
the
curve
and
the
market
price,
so
that's
kind
of
their
complaint
about
it.
C
Next,
that
is
happening
already,
so
so
just
summarizing
what
you
guys
just
discussed
right
there,
pausing
halting
or
pausing
the
curve,
basically
does
not
make
any
sense.
It
does
no
one
knows
what
it
means
and
it's
not
going
to
leave
people
from
good.
The
only
thing
you
can
actually
do
is
like
destroy
the
curve.
You
have
to
actually
destroy
the
entire
thing
and
then
the
amount
of
total
dxd
ever
that
that's
the
only
way
you
can
do
it
so
so,
if
you're
going
to
make
like.
C
F
E
And
while
I
go
still
is
just,
but
I
agree
with
that
completely
that's
what
I
was
thinking
about.
This
is
such
a
big
shift.
Having
said
that,
because
of
the
prement,
I
do
think
that
dx
dow
is
in
position
to
potentially
switch
to
have
a
huge
ship
switch
and
how
that
would
be
and,
as
you
said
like
destroy
the
curve,
but
it's
not
like
just
something
like
you
know
can
happen
very
quickly
because
there's
so
many
there's
so
much
of
the
ecosystem
right,
that's
kind
of
in
that
so
yeah.
E
B
I
wouldn't
view
it
that
extremely,
but
I
do
believe
that
if
you
pause
the
buying
on
the
curve,
like
I
said
before,
everything
else
still
works.
But
if
you
pause
it,
I
think
it's
going
to
become
intractable
to
unplug
it
because
of
what
we
just
described
very
like
the
market
is
not
going
to
be
happy
if
you
just
all
of
a
sudden
like
jump
on
it
right.
Basically,
I
mean
it's
not
like
the
dow
dumping
direct
in
the
market.
It's
just
like
opening
up
the
inflation
supply
right
and
just
being
like
you
know,
it's
like.
B
The
dow
has
the
ability
to
upgrade
the
curve,
but
that
would
involve
just
like
so
in
terms
of
what
I
talked
about
earlier
is
like
pausing
it
that's
the
existing
curve.
Has
this
parameter,
which
you
can
submit
and
update
to
like
the
dow
can
update
right?
That's
it
though
it's
like
you
can
set
that
parameter.
You
can
also
unset.
You
can
set
it
down
again
right.
So
in
theory
the
dow
could
like
unpause
the
curve
yeah
turn
to
turn
the
mid
thing
back
on.
G
Remember
when
you
said
that,
like
I'm,
not
certain
that,
like
it's
gonna,
be
voted
against
her,
I
don't
know
somebody
already
already
voted
against
it.
B
Not
without
completely
upgrading
the
contracts,
the
dow
can
basically
do
anything,
but
it
like
the
upgradeable,
but
that
would
involve
like
a
whole
new
deployment
and
it
gets
really
complicated
and
technical.
What's
like
easy
is
relatively
easy,
is
to
modify
the
adjustable
parameters
that
already
exist
in
the
curve.
What
I'm
saying
is
yeah
the.
B
One
of
the
things
I'm
cons,
like
the
thing.
Personally,
I
don't
see
a
huge
problem
with
pausing
the
curve.
I
see
I'm
more
worried
about
what
that
the
consequences
of
pausing
it
immediately
would
be
on
the
community
and
what
I
imagine
will
happen
is
dxd
will
surge
in
the
price.
It
will
draw
a
lot
of
attention
to
the
dow
and
we'll
have
a
rush
of
people,
and
maybe
some
people
coming
for
even
the
wrong
reasons.
B
Just
the
price
I
appreciate
you
know
like
you
know,
but-
and
so
I
kind
of
worry
a
little
bit
about-
is
the
account
ready
for
that
like
and
you
know
like
we
were
just
talking
about
with
the
onboarding
process-
it's
not
as
mature
in
my
eyes
as
it
should
be.
So
like
don't,
I
kind
of
worry
about
that
kind
of
stuff
like?
Are
we
ready
for
an
influx?
That
is
something
that
dao
has
control
over
right
like
the
dao
is
gonna.
Do
this
like
it
should
be
ready
for
the
consequences
of
it.
D
D
That
would
be,
I
mean
if
we
use
the
funds,
we
can
transfer
the
funds
to
an
address,
buy
the
tokens
and
increase
a
load,
the
price,
so
the
buying
price
will
be
extremely
will
be,
like
I
know,
double
of
what
is
what
it
is
now
tokens
will
be
generated,
they
will
be
under
under
control
of
the
dxo.
B
On
the
curve,
it's
impossible
for
the
dx
down
to
double
the
price
right,
because
the
amount
of
eth
raised
by
the
tx
dow
or
like
by
you
know
the
amount
of
heat
into
the
curve,
90
of
which
goes
to
the
treasury,
is
the
integral
under
the
curve
right.
So
it's
like
the
area
under
the
line.
If
you
don't
look
rice,
that
area
is
much
bigger
than
the
existing
area.
In
fact
it's
it's.
The
total
area
is
four
times
as
big
so
yeah,
I
I
don't
know
it's
double,
but
we
call
it
we
have.
D
B
Double
the
price
of
the
curve,
it
actually
requires
four
times
you
know
three
times
the
existing
capital
has
to
additionally
go
in
the
total
capital
n
has
to
be
four
times.
B
D
This
is
the
sell
yeah.
This
was
designed
in
a
way
that
you
don't
install
the
car.
You
should
send
enough
revenue
work
in
order
to
keep
have
a
competitive
sale
price,
so
the
the
probably
that
now
on
very
early
stages
at
the
price
and
the
buy
and
surprise
are
different.
They
are
very
distant
from
each
other.
D
So
what
we
should
do
is
the
main
concern
about
the
exec
court
that
are
pushing
out
the
this
initiative
is
increasing
off
of
the
xc
of
dxd
supply
right.
So
I
think
that
a
counter
proposal
for
the
community
will
be
okay.
Let's
not
do
this
that
he
said
burn
dxe.
D
I
I
think
we
we
should
try
to
find
a
way
like
a
place
in
between
with
dfc
holders
and
organization
owners,
because
actually
our
interests
are
very
much
aligned.
There
is,
I
think
they
don't
understand
how
the
the
maybe
they
don't
understand,
complete
how
the
it
is
autonomous
trust
works.
B
D
C
B
C
D
D
D
Yeah,
but
this
this
is
what
it
does.
It
kind
of
controls,
the
the
the
external
market
from
the
cure.
D
Oh
yeah
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
that's
not
yeah!
That's
another
thing
that
the
the
graph
that
you
are
seeing
on
the
extras
is
the
price
by
graph,
and
then
you
have
the
sale
price
and
now
what
we
want
to
do
that.
I
think
it
would
be
super
interesting
to
show
the
actually
the
bonding
cure,
where
it
would
still
be
pretty
much
like
a
straight
line.
D
D
D
D
B
Yeah
what
people
are
suggesting
is
like,
instead
of
having
a
linear
relationship
between
price
and
supply,
having
an
exponential
relationship
between
price
and
supply,
so
that,
as
you
know,
basically
it'll
mince
more,
but
only
when
the
price
really
goes
up
even
more.
And
then
like
I
mean
it's
just
a
more
favorable
relationship
for
for
people
who
are
holding
the
token
and
basically
like
less
supply,
increase
per
price
increase
and
then
ever
less.
G
B
B
I
And-
and
it
will
make
also
like
when,
when
you
send
funds
into
the
curve
it
will
make,
it
will
make
it
much
harder
to
like
you,
wouldn't
even
the
exponential
thing
will
will
cause
us
to
to
have
to
to
send
much
more
funds
into
the
curve
to
actually
make
any
like
change.
B
D
Yeah
yeah
that
that
thing
we
need
to
send
revenue
back
to
a
cure.
That
is
what
we
have
to
do.
That
is
what
what
is
meant
to
happen
for
this
to
have
an
explanation,
bonding
cure.
That
is
how
how
it
works.
But
again
we
are
only
a
few
months
old
as
an
organization,
so
we
expect
to
have
revenue
this
year,
but
not
as
much,
I
guess
to
have
a
competitive
surprise.
E
I'll
just
add
so:
there's
been
price
movement.
Today
there
was
a
thousand
e
in
the
curve
this
morning,
and
so
market
gap
is
10.6
million,
for
I
guess
the
free
floating
and
then
including
the
pre-med.
That
would
be
40
million,
but
just
I
guess
just
this
morning's
pass
with
that.
The
free
floating
past
10
million
market
cap.
D
E
B
B
G
I
I
think
the
the
discussion
should
should
be
around
funding
and
and
like
planning
the
planning
for
the
dow
and
not
the
curve
and
not
the
prices.
This
will
follow.
If
we,
if
we
come
to
the
conclusion
that
we
have
enough
funding
and
we
we
we
don't
need
or
don't
want
to
to
raise
more
funds,
then
we
can
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do,
but
but
yeah.
I
think
that
the
main
driver
for
the
discussion
right
now
is,
as
you
said,
it's
more
like.
B
Alpha
yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
maybe
the
motivation,
but
yeah.
I
mean
it's
a
totally
valid
question,
though,
like
how
much
should
the
dx
now
race
right,
like
I
totally
agree
with
him
like
what
yeah
like
I
mean,
what
is
what's
our
goals
here
like
what
do
we?
Where
do
we
want
this
to
be
five.
G
I
Forever,
generally,
I
think
if,
if
you
look
at,
if
you
as
like,
assume
we're
going
to
really
scale
and
have
a
lot
of
revenue,
I
think
it
it
makes
sense
to
somehow
like
selling
selling
txd
and
and
giving
giving
like
giving
at
ten
percent
of
our
revenue
is,
is
a
lot
you
like
companies
raise
funds,
raise
funds
for
just
you
know,
selling
bonds,
giving
like
fixed,
fixed
yeah
fixed.
How
do
you
say
apy,
so
it's
not
the
most
efficient
way
to
raise
money
that
that's
that's
the
bottom
line.
I
Yeah
yeah
yeah
that
that's
obviously
that
that's
part
of
it,
so
the
question
is:
do
do
the
dao
have
enough
funding
until
there's
some
revenue
and
and
that's
obviously
no
one
can
really
answer
this
and
so
yeah.
It's
it's
it's
hard.
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
like
a
very
easy
conclusion
right
now,.
I
The
the
only
the
only
additional
point
is,
as
as
you
said,
that
that's
we
have
a
lot
of
txt
like
the
dow
has
a
lot
of
dxd.
So
if
the
price
is
high
and
the
and
the
market
is
liquid,
theoretically
and
the
dow
can
just
sell
it,
the
when
it
needs
funding
right.
B
B
I
E
B
E
Yeah
and
it's
tough
on
the
timeline,
though
right,
it's
the
excel,
raising
funds
for
five
years
ten
years
two
years
and
how
are
those
funds
yeah,
but
those
are
the
strategic
questions.