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A
All
right
welcome
everybody,
so
yeah
normal
normal
agenda
for
the
weekly
kind
of
wrap
up
general
meeting
here
is
going
through
the
products
and
with
any
updates
from
them
and
then
going
through
the
biz
dev
development
and
governance
calls
that
happen
this
week
in
recapping
what
happened
in
those
and
then
if
we
have
time
additional
discussion
corkus,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
omen
to
start
us
off.
B
Well,
yes,
I
was
away
for
two
weeks,
but
I'm
getting
back
into
the
omen
game.
B
I'm
still,
we
have
a
big
pull
request
list
of
of
new
stuff
which
kaiden
worked
on,
and
the
version
1.1.5,
which
is
being
prepared
right
now,
will
be
primarily
be
frontend
punishment
updates,
so
no
major
features
will
be
included
and
a
proper,
my
market
widget,
which
works
so
if
faded,
provide
liquidity
and
has
outcome
totals,
and
with
all
of
that,
I
think
the
next
version
is
like
a
major
big
release,
which
puts
omen
into
like
an
acceptable
feature:
rich
version,
which
is
not
an
alpha
anymore.
B
Hopefully,
and
speaking
about
decoration,
I
mean
clairos-
is
working
pretty
well
with
their
curation
list.
People
use
are
using
it.
B
Nevertheless,
I
think
we
should
be
a
backup
list,
just
like
I
think
it's
important
that
the
star
still
has
like
a
way
to
fix
omen
if
claros,
if
something
with
the
claros
list,
doesn't
work
out.
B
So
it
would
be
good
if
someone
from
the
oman
community
could
start
thinking
about
like
a
a
big
list
of
valid
markets,
I
mean
we
could
basically
copy
the
claros
as
a
state.
Right
now
and
then
like
maintain
any
new
market
which
is
coming
out
and
just
including
it
into
the
inter
owners
so
yeah,
that's
that's
basically
it
for
the
omen
release.
C
Any
questions
this
is
the
management
of
the
omen
list
work
if
the
dao,
like
main
dao
alchemy,
is
managing
it
like
or
do
you
need
the
the
smaller
omen
guild
in
order
to
like
do
that
management
quicker
and
faster,
like
more
effectively.
B
It's
honest,
I
mean
we
can
basically
not
do
anything,
but
I
think
it
would
be
it's
just
just
a
backup
plan.
It's
just
like
more
robust
to
have
two
major
lists
which
are
which
are
being
maintained.
B
Yeah,
like
one
one
good
like
one
good
thing,
is
that
we
can
make
batch
add-ons
so
like
every
three
three
days
or
whatever
every
three
days,
we
can
have
like
a
list
of
markets
which
should
be
considered
valid.
So
that's
like
the
only
feature
we
we
have
against
the
claros
thing.
I
don't
think
with
claros.
You
can
have
like
a
batch
add-on
to
the
list
so
yeah
the
way
I
see
it
based
on
the
gas
prices,
it
kind
of
makes
sense
to
have
like
every
three
days.
B
It's
it's!
It's
actually
interesting
that,
like
before,
I
actually
thought
the
d
star
was
actually
a
good
competitor
to
the
clerus
list,
but
the
the
good
thing
with
the
claro's
list
is
that
if
someone
is
adding
something
to
the
list,
it
is
being
considered
valid
like
immediately
and
and
people
can
basically
earn
rewards.
B
If,
if
they
see
something
invalid
and
then
basically
like
signal
directly
on
chain
that
it
is
an
embedded
market
and
the
the
process
got
been
triggered
on
the
claros
system,
to
firstly
remove
it
or
something
like
that,
so
it's
much
faster,
which
is
a
good
thing
for
our
product,
because
people
can
actually
like
add
it
to
the
list
pretty
quickly
compared
to
the
installers.
A
All
right,
if
we're
set
on
questions
on
omen,
I
can
give
it
a
little
update
on
on
mesa.
There
is
another
release
upcoming,
which
has
a
few
relatively
small
kind
of
user
experience
improvements.
A
I
like
an
improved
way
to
define
the
validity
of
the
orders
with
like
the
date
with
the
date
picker
and
batch
id
selector,
and
then
a
new
way
of
like
showing
the
actual
minimal
trading
amount,
which
I
think
you
know
has
been
creating
some
confusion,
because
there
is
like
a
certain
threshold
in
which
batch
orders
actually
get
filled,
so
there's
sort
of
like
this
effectively.
A
I
think
it's
maybe
even
a
little
bit
high
minimal
trading
amount
with
those
protocols
with
the
high
gas
gas
fees.
I
also
you
know
I
synced
up
a
bit
with
the
gnosis
engineering
team
and
there's
a
few
big
kind
of
efforts
that
they're
working
on
for
for
gnosis
protocol
itself.
A
I
think
the
next.
The
next
goal
for
them
is
to
add
the
market
order
functionality
at
the
gnosis
protocol
level.
I
think,
if
you
look
longer
term
after
that,
it's
scalability,
you
know
sky.
I
think
we
were
talking
about
one
of
the
calls
earlier
this
week
about
how
there's
30
trades
in
a
single
single
batch
right
now.
A
I
think,
that's
actually,
I
think
aluna
I
haven't
looked
at
the
full
message,
but
I
believe
alvin
from
luna
social
was
actually
just
asking
about
that
in
the
key
base,
so
yeah
right
now,
30
trades
in
a
single
bathroom,
gnosis
protocol
and
sky.
You
know
something
else
we
have
brought
up
earlier
this
week.
A
Was
you
know
that
the
fact
that
people
can
put
it
in
an
order
with
the
best
price,
but
if
it's
not,
it
can
actually
get
like
left
out
of
a
batch
if
there's
bigger
orders
and
the
reason
I
like
look
more
closely
at
this.
The
reason
for
this
is
that
the
goal
with
the
solver
rules
is
to
maximize
trader
welfare
right,
so
essentially,
bigger
orders
like
can
create
like
more
utility
than
smaller
orders,
even
if
the
smaller
order
has
like
a
more
competitive
price.
C
But
because
I
also
thought
no,
the
whole
point
of
gnosis
protocol
was
to
trade
like
really
illiquid
small
volume
tokens
on
like,
like,
let's
say
from
omen,
and
if
that
is
why
what
it's
designed
for
like
low
liquidity,
low
volume,
random
tokens
always
can
get
a
price
because
of
ring
trades,
but
it's
but
they're
actually
left
out
like
that.
Doesn't
actually
do
what
it's
supposed
to
do
right.
A
Right
and
there's
two
aspects
to
that
too.
Right
I
mean
this
is
the
30
trades
in
a
single
batch
kind
of
limiting
that
I
do
think
that
scalability
is
going
to
be
more
of
a
focus
after
they
add
market
orders,
so
hopefully
that
would
be
addressed
and
there
would
be
a
lot
more
trades
in
a
single
batch.
A
But
I
I
don't
know
how
you
get
around
gas
costs,
I'm
sure
there's
some
optimizations,
but
yeah
I
mean
what
you're
talking
about
which
I
I
think
is
true
is
like
part
of
the
goal
here
is
to
allow
trading
of
relatively
illiquid
tokens
at
like
a
reasonable
price
like
if
you're
an
omen
market
and
there's
like
a
few
thousand
dollars
of
liquidity.
A
C
Since
you
deposit
onto
you
deposit,
like
you,
would
deposit
onto
loopering
you
deposit
on
this
protocol,
it
seems
like
you
could
put
gnosis
protocol
on
loop
ring
on
a
layer
right
right.
A
Right
yeah,
I
don't
technically
gnosis
protocol
is,
I
don't
think
layer
two,
because
everything
like
the
deposits
are
all
on
layer,
one
it's
just
the
solvers
are
being
incentivized.
Off-Chain,
however,
like
from
a
ux
perspective,
I
think
you're
totally
right
right,
like
you're
already
taking
this
deposit
step
so
yeah,
it's
sort
of
like
the
same
ux
as
it's
like
a
loop
ring
or,
like
you
know,
a
z,
roll-up
player,
two
and
yeah.
A
In
addition
to
that,
like
gnosis
protocol
is
not
like
it
doesn't
work
with
composability
in
the
same
sense
that,
like
a
unison,
would
right
like
so
it's
also
similar
to
the
loop
ring
in
that
sense
that
it
sort
of
breaks
composability
because
of
the
time
that
it
takes
between
batches
right.
You
can't
do
things
atomically
in
one
etherium
transaction
on
closest
protocol.
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
you'll,
be
your
sport
on
so
just
the
the
two
problems
are
basically
the
same
problem,
so
the
limit
of
30
orders
is
because
a
single
order
like
with
with
require
such
and
such
gas
to
settle
so
and
yeah.
It's
it's
basically
the
same
problem
of
having
a
limited
amount
of
orders.
It
also
implies
some
kind
of
high
price
for
for
each
order
to
settle
and
yeah.
D
So
it's
basically
the
same
scalability
and-
and
you
would
definitely
write
that
in
in
in
terms
of
uix,
it
would
be
very
reasonable
to
to
go
to
a
layer
two,
because
anyway
you
we,
we
don't
get
gain.
A
lot
of.
You
know
the
composability
of
being
on
ethereum
and
main
chain
and
yeah
it's
something
that
is
or
will
be
explored
further
in
the
future,
but
already
and
being
explored
and
yeah
yeah.
D
I
I
don't
think
that's
the
the
heavy
lifting
of
doing
it
like
in
a
ck
roll
up
is
is
big,
because
all
the
contracts
would
be
need
to
be
like
basically
written
from
scratch,
and
but
maybe
on
a
kind
of.
A
A
If
you
have
it
but
yeah,
it
seems
like
it's
an
idea
and
like
part
of
it
too,
is
like
if,
if
they're
iterating
on
those
protocol,
it's
expensive
just
to
deploy
contracts,
the
main
chain
so
like
xdi,
is
sort
of
an
attractive
option
for
cheaper
deployments,
but
still
real
value
at
stake.
So
it's
not
like
you
know,
a
completely
valueless
test
environment
like
there's
real
money
that
you
can
play
with
so
it'll
be
interesting.
A
I
don't
really
know
where
that's
going
to
go,
but
it,
I
think,
in
my
mind
something
interesting
to
keep
an
eye
on
just
like
the
maturity
of
the
x-ray
chain
and
what
gets
deployed
there.
E
John
and
and
ken
just
a
quick
word
on
the
loopering
stuff,
but
two
weeks
ago
I
guess
we
spoke
with
well,
I
mean
on
the
call.
Oren
was
mentioning
the
ability
to
just
trade
the
tokens
cheaply.
Maybe
it's
time
that
maybe
we
should
just
have
a
call
offline
or
john.
Maybe
you
want
to
set
it
up
with
the
gnosis
guys
or
I'll
reach
out
to
to
stefan
or
whatever,
but
yeah.
Maybe
we
could
discuss
this.
I
do
agree
with
ken.
We
can't
port
it
all
over
easily
to
zero
knowledge
circuits.
E
They
have
to
be
rewritten,
but
maybe
there's
some
things
we
could
do
at
least
for
the
trading
or
maybe
some
components,
because
maybe
the
timing
is
okay,
because
we're
about
to
deploy
a
new
version
version
3.6,
which
actually
is
more
composable
with
layer,
one
in
kind
of
not
like
pure
methods
but
in
certain
ways
of
abstracting
logic,
so
yeah.
Let's,
let's
actually
have
that
conversation
when
you
guys
want
to.
A
Trading
on
a
layer,
two
like
loot
brain,
but
would
that
also
be?
E
Yeah,
I
guess
I
guess
a
bit
of
both
I'm
thinking
of
both
like
again
just
having
the
conversation
about
what
could
be
done
either.
The
naive
way
is
just
wrapping
the
tokens
or
maybe
putting
yeah
gnosis
protocol
in
some
way.
E
I
mean
it's
kind
of
funny
because
last
year,
around
exactly
a
year
ago,
I
guess
we
were
speaking
with
gnosis
when
they
were
doing,
and
I
think
it
was
I
I
might
be
mistaken,
but
they
were
going
to
deploy
gnosis
protocol
on
a
layer
two
and
we
were
kind
of
discussing
the
similarities
because
remember
loopering
came
from
a
ring
trading
background
and
we
dropped
that
to
go
zk
roll
ups
because
it
was
too
complex
to
do
the
race.
A
Went
in
opposite
directions
right
because
I
believe
I
heard
like
two
years
ago
at
defcon.
I
vaguely
remember
you
know
alex
herman
talking
about
like
the
zk
stuff
and
using
that,
for
I
think
they
were
calling
it
plasma
exchange
at
the
time.
But
what
became.
E
Exactly
we
kind
of
went
in
opposite
directions
and
there
might
not
be
a
way
to
meet
in
the
middle,
yet
for
sure
there
will
be,
but
right
now
for
for
zk
stuff,
it
might
be
too
restrictive,
but
anyways.
I
guess
I
I'm
gonna
just
ping
our
engineers
and
and
get
them
ready
for
a
phone
call
with
with
yeah.
I
guess
on
both
of
those
topics.
Answer
your
question:
you're
right,
different,
different
things,
but
I'm
thinking
of
both
of
them.
D
Cool,
how
happy
to
arrange
this
regarding
x,
dice
so
yeah,
it's
very
popular
probable.
It's
going
to
happen,
but
again
it's
it's
kind
of
a
trade-off.
So
does
you
know
there's
no
it's
it's
not
replacing
the
security
guarantees
on
on
the
main
chain.
It's
it
will.
It
will.
F
D
Of
a
better
testament,
as
I
see
it,.
A
G
Yeah
just
to
touch
briefly
on
that
john,
because
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
kind
of
how
to
solve
the
current
crisis
or
thinking
about
gas
costs
right
now
and
how
to
increase
usage,
but
there's
definitely
a
much
more
like
medium
to
long-term
strategic
decision
that
the
ecstatic
house
should
make
regards
to
layer
two
solutions.
Obviously
this
is
something
regards
to
governance
and
voting,
but
you
know
the
fact
that
geek
style
has
connections
with
a
couple
of
different
layer,
two
solutions.
G
I
think
we
should
just
kind
of
think
about
how
that
works,
especially
because
on
the
zeus,
xdi
loop
ring,
and
then
I
presume
optimism
is
gonna
kind
of
be
into
this.
When
I
think
about
dx
swap
I'm
presuming
that
that's
kind
of
going
to
be,
maybe
if
that
hits
a
layer
later
swap,
is
working
on
like
another
layer,
2
solution
that
they're
probably
going
to
go
the
optimism
route.
G
So
just
these
are,
I
think
something
the
dna
styles
should
should
be
cognizant
of
and
of
like
how
to
yeah
how
to
move
to
layer
two
in
a
strategic
way.
A
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
I'm
wearing
my
level
k
shirt
if
anybody's
participating
in
the
prediction
market
on
omen
about
whether
I
would
wear
my
level
k
shirt
today.
I
I
did
not
participate.
You
know
I'm
trying
to
stay
neutral,
but
I
did
wear
my
shirt
so
gusto.
Do
you
want
to
go
to
dx1.
H
Yes,
oh
my
god:
okay,
okay,
yeah!
What?
What
when
there
is
going
to
be
one
about
my
beer
but
yeah?
Talking
about
yourself
willing
to
shave
his
beard.
F
I
think
you
know
the
answer
about
the
extra
discipline
on
command
it
is.
They
are
ready
to
be
tested.
I
guess
people
in
the
community
or
or
in
the
dhl
community,
where
using
it.
Maybe
I
should
re-share
it
again
or
at
least
comment
on
the
topic
just
to
put
it
on
the
forum
and
yeah.
F
F
G
Call
yeah
so
that
was
last
friday,
so
because
what
others
on
friday
so
maybe
is
a
little
behind
but
yeah
so
just
kind
of,
as
as
gucci
said,
did
coven
kind
of
dx
swap
looking
at
the
demo.
G
There
talked
a
lot
a
lot
about
fees
and
kind
of
what
the
strategy
is
there,
leaning
towards
charging
a
small
fee,
but
also
giving
some
flexibility
for
pools
to
be
able
to
change
their
fees
and
then
also
kind
of
how
they
appear
and
then
a
lot
of
discussion
on
kind
of
targeted
pools.
Specifically
I'd
shared
a
spreadsheet
of
like
the
top
50
pairs
on
uniswap
and
looking
at
which
pairs
get
the
same.
G
The
most
trade
volume
compared
to
their
liquidity
size
and
seeing,
if
there's
some
pairs
to
kind
of
go
after
and
yeah
the
kind
of
the
the
conclusion
being
that
they're,
we
could
go
after,
say
smaller
pairs
and
pretty
easily
establish
the
premier
liquidity
location
for
for
some
of
those
pairs.
That
geeksdale
would
have
some
ability
to
attract
a
large
liquidity
pool
would
be
that
dxd
pools
itself
or
dmg
or
even
like
a
partner
like
pnk.
G
So
I
think,
as
you
kind
of
it's
a
good
dimension
kind
of
looking
to
roll
out
to
main
that,
like
what
are
the
small
steps
to
get
there
and
kind
of
as
we
iterate
the
launch
to
to
add
some
targeted
pairs.
Maybe
some
rewards
for
those
before
kind
of
competing
in
on
every
pair
and
trying
to
target
the
resources
to
to
select.
A
A
On
so
yeah,
like
I
think,
last
couple
product
updates
rails,
I
have
not
looked
in
detail,
but
it
looks
like
federico
is
making
some
good
progress
there
and
getting
some
help
from
some
new
designers
that
have
been
participating,
which
is
great
to
see,
and
it's
looking
pretty
nice.
A
I
think
that
should
be
getting
launched
within
weeks,
if
not
sooner
matt.
I
don't
know
if
you
had
anything
to
add
on
to
that.
E
No,
I
was
looking
for
an
update
as
well.
I
took
the
past
few
days
off,
so
I
circled
back
with
federico
just
earlier
before
the
call
but
yeah
I
was
a
bit
behind.
So
that's
great,
so
there's
new
designers
working
on
it.
You
say
I
have
not
seen
that
at
all.
A
Yeah,
I
think
if
you
join
your
it's
probably
a
little
confusing
there's
a
design
channel
and
they've
been
throwing
some
stuff
around
in
there
for
for
rails,
cool.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
I'll,
join.
A
A
Waking
up
in
the
morning,
sometimes
I
feel
disoriented,
like
so
much
has
happened
in
the
time
I
was
asleep
but
yeah,
but
let's
see
so
the
other.
The
other
aspect
is
governance.
Stuff,
and
I
mean
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
big
to
update
there,
but
there
is
augusto.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
gas
reimbursement,
post
and
work
down
there
and
also
or
niko
too,
if
you
want
to
jump
in.
F
Yeah
yeah
yeah
I
shared
yesterday
yeah
talk
on
dow
talk.
I
can
share
the
link
now
about
the
first
round
of
gas
refunds
that
we
are
going
to
do
for
governance
actions
right.
So
here
you
can,
you
can
see
a
topic
we
we
plan
to.
We
we
made
the
calculations
to
refund
75
percent
of
the
gas
cost
of
bo
of
powering
proportion,
creation
and
staking
on
on
the
exile
till
a
block
that
was
that
has
a
round
number
on,
I
think
was
always
paid.
F
F
They
are
going
to
have
three
months
to
claim
the
funds.
Then
the
unclaimed
funds
are
going
to
go
back
to
the
exam.
So
this
is
the
first
initial
round
with
very
very
safe
and
simple
parameters
and
a
very
simple
way
of
doing
it.
Then
we
are
going
to
iterate
over
it
and
see.
How
are
we
going
to
do?
The
next
ones,
hopefully
in
the
future
we
are
not
going
to.
F
We
are
not
going
to
have
to
do
this
at
all
and
they
are
going
to
be
refunded
on
chain
every
time
you
vote
or
create
a
proposal,
but
yeah
you
can
go,
there
see
a
topic
and
a
proposal
is
going
to
be
created
this
week.
For
this.
A
Yeah,
so
the
motivation
for
this
technical
work
being
that,
especially
recently
gas
costs
are
so
high
that
we
are
afraid
it
might
be,
or
it
is
discouraging
voting
and
proposal
making
and
that's
pretty
critical
to
dxnow
to
to
make
sure
governance
is
operating
and
operating
well.
So
yes,
it's
sort
of
a
short-term,
hopefully
short-term
fix,
is
to
to
use
the
treasury.
A
It's
not
a
ton
of
eth
right
but
you're,
saying
like
it's
like
10
15
so
far,
and
that
might
be
more
though
if
people
start
do
participate
more
and
gas
costs
remain
high,
but
the
idea
is
to
basically
leverage
the
treasury
to
enable
governance
in
the
short
term
until
there
are
better
fixes
in
place,
and
maybe
some
more
scalable
governance
solutions
in
place.
E
Is
there
a
way
guys
to
abstract
the
voting
to
just
signaling
right
now,
again
kind
of
like
a
hacky
way?
The
person
that
owns
this
ether
address
sends
it
to
here
for
yes
here
for
no
on
loop
ring,
let's
say
and
then
the
ultimate
like
it
is
set
in
motion
via
a
different
trigger
because
like
right
now
you
need
those
on
chain
votes.
It's
self
effectuating.
I
guess.
But
is
there
a
way
to
like
stop
that
signal
elsewhere
for
free?
E
A
So
augusto
augusto
has
had
a
an
idea
which
I
think
is
similar
to
what
you're
talking
about,
which
would
be
in
augusta,
feel
free
to
explain
it
yourself,
but
the
idea
would
be
to
use
covan
to
collect
signatures.
You
know
if
we,
if
we
are
able
to
deploy
an
up-to-date
clone
of
dx.covant
votes
and
signatures
can
be
collected
on
koban
and
submitted
in
one
transaction
on
on
mainland.
F
F
The
program
with
signatures,
as
you
know,
is
to
share
it
on
a
public
network
right,
so
that
is,
for
that
is
what
we
are
going
to
use
chrome.
We
are
going
to
use
chrome
as
a
testing
developer
ground,
where
you
can
also
share
a
signal.
Okay,
this
require
I'm
going
to
what
I
will
vote.
If
I
was
supporting
romanian
and
you
are
committing
yourself,
because
this
signature
that
you
share
on
command,
it
is
executable
on
the
main,
boring
machine,
because
the
account
and
the
cryptographic.
B
Urban
is
fixing
that,
and
I
think
there
are
like
four
or
five
guys
who
committed
to
the
free
telon
hosting
and
the
beauty
of
herbert
is
that
once
they
have
this
hosting
feature
ready
people
go
to
the
domain
log
into
their
urbits.
A
Clearly
he
was
using
his
herbert
yeah,
no,
no
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
urban,
so
yeah
urban
is
also
a
potential
solution
for
especially
for
singling
voting
and
there's
a
group
of
people
that
are
trialing
it
within
the
bx.
Now
working
closely
with
the
arabic
team,
it's
exciting
stuff.
We
got
to
see.
I
think
what
the
maturity
is
of
that
attacking
whether.
G
For
all
it's
really,
so
no,
I
I
think
it's
you
know.
We
were
kind
of
using
some
of
this
terminology
yesterday
and
talking
about,
like
you
know
how
east
2.0
and
eth
1.x
are
like
delineating
between
different
upgrades
and
governance,
and
almost
for
this
one
there's
almost
maybe
like
three.
G
G
Second,
is
like
the
coven
right,
coven
dao,
which
would
you
know,
be
a
way
for
for
signal,
and
then
I
guess
I
wonder
if,
like
the
third
long-term
solution
for
this,
is
either
your
bip
or
layer
two
or
something
but
just
kind
of
like
putting
the
upgrades
into
those
like
progressive
boxes
or
as
like
boxes
that
we
can
work
on
as
they
progress.
F
Yeah
on
that
there
are
some
things
that
can
be,
for
example,
for
for
our
common
solution.
We
have
tests,
we
have
implementation,
we
have
the
implementation
rate
design
with
the
code
rhythm
with
test
working.
So
this
is
something
that
can
be
achieved
and
can
be
implemented
in
the
short
term,
and
it
I
mean
it's
not
it's
not
it's
not
a
bad
scalable
solution.
F
You
know
it's
like
barbie,
using
using
the
resources
that
we
have
at
our
hand
to
to
scaling
our
current
network,
then
yeah,
using
something
using
something
more
experimental
like
arbit,
for
example,
or
we
also
need
to
I.
I
would
love
to
wait
to
see
what
happened
with
you.
2.0,
we'll
see
later
how
how?
How
are
we
going
to
scale
there?
How
much
are
we
going
to
stake
as
an
organization
so
yeah?
F
A
A
Cool,
let's
move
on
ingomar
are
you?
Are
you
ready
you're
there
for
recapping,
the
biz
dev
call
from
earlier
yeah.
J
Yeah
sure
so
delphi
presented
their
their
report
from
dick
style.
We
more
or
less
welcomed
them
into
our
community
very
excited
to
have
them
on
board.
J
They've
got
a
lot
of
great
ideas
for
the
excels
product
offerings
and
the
governance
system,
including
involving
dxc's
dhc
holders
having
voting
power,
which
I
think
were
pretty
much
about.
J
J
You
know
we're
we
are
trying
to
like
decentralize,
making
these
things
permissionless
and
stuff,
so
there
could
be
something
there
regarding
that
followed
up
with
protests,
they
now
represented
to
plot
x,
plot
x,
dot
io,
so
I
met
with
their
executive
team
and
they
are
certainly
down
to
explore
this
conversation
of
governing
their.
You
know
their
platform
as
a
service.
J
You
know
whether
it
be
taking
a
percentage
of
their
of
their
governance
power,
slash
tokens
to
govern
their
system
and
have
some
kind
of
like
plurality
within
that
and
also
becoming
an
arbitrator.
So
I'm
introducing
them
to
corcus
and
cayden
so
that
we
can.
I
guess
we
can
share
how
we
integrate
governance
into
products
like
omen
and
so
that
they
can
potentially
model
model
off
that
and
we'll
figure
out
further
what
what
they
need.
So
we
can
build
it
and
partner
on
that.
J
And
also
I
drafted
the
presentation
for
dal
rush
week.
I
will
I'll
look
for
the
link,
but
I
made
an
event
on
september
1st.
I
believe,
noon
new
york
time
for
us
to
present
on
the
dx
dow,
what
we're
up
to
what
the
story
is
and
and
share
a
bit
about
the
upcoming
launch
of
dx
swap,
why
we're
doing
it
and
what
the
goal
is
and
what
the
strategy
is
to
capture
liquidity
and
also
you
know
end
it
on
hey
we're
hiring.
J
We
need
a
lot
more
heads
in
this
in
this
group,
so
I
posted
the
draft
in
the
dx
swap
channel
just
take
note
that
it's
before
the
designers
make
it
all
beautiful.
So
you
know
commentary
just
make
it
on
the
text
and
the
content
and
I'll
revise
accordingly.
You
know
we
got
a
few.
A
few
days
before
rush
week
starts.
I
submitted
the
the
intro
slide
for
dx
style
and
that's
about
it
for
me,
I
think.
A
F
Yeah,
I
think
we
cover
we
cover
all
of
it,
because
we
talk
about
casper
funds
on
a
mesa
and
a
bit
of
dxop
so
yeah.
It
was
already
covered.
Nothing
new.
A
All
right
chris
covered
its
call:
we've
managed
to
go
42
minutes
without
talking
about
the
bonding
curve.
So
I
think
that's
about
to
change.
G
Yeah,
so
let
me
just
have
the
page
up
sorry,
so
government's
call
was
was
jam-packed
actually
so
started
out.
Talking
about
the.
G
Sorry,
the
manifesto
and,
I
think,
we're
at
pretty
close
to
final
draft
there.
I
actually
incorporated
some
comments
that
were
yesterday
into
pdf.
You
can
see
there
and
talking
about
uploading
that
to
ipfs
and
then
submitting
that
as
a
formal
proposal,
there's
still
a
form
thread
about
that.
G
If
you
have
any
other
comments
or
the
google
doc
and
then
talked
briefly
about
revisiting
kind
of
the
worker
compensation
guidelines
to
kind
of
get
to
some
of
the
things
john
was
talking
about
earlier
about
or
about
kind
of
growing
and
expanding
into
new
areas
and
how
to
kind
of
onboard
different
people,
and
so
just
going
through
those.
G
And
so
this
was
discussing
things
about
like
how
to
maybe
incentivize
more
worker
compensation
in
dxd
how
to
deal
with
pseudo
and
anonymity
and
experience
and
level
for
non-technical
work
and
then
yeah
just
kind
of
looking
at
how
the
the
general
calculation
of
that
and
then
we
talked
as
gusta
mentioned,
about
the
reimbursing
gas
fees
for
voting
and
proposal,
submission
and
dmm.
G
There's
work
on
kind
of
integrating
it
with
on
the
technical
level.
Sky
is
kind
of
leading
what
we
call
the
dx
dow
delegation
to
the
dmm
community,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
work.
G
I
think
to
be
done
on
the
dmm
front
as
they
kind
of
build
out
their
own
governance
system,
but
we'll
be
kind
of
a
part
of
there,
for
the
ride
also
presented
another
version
of
the
budget
which
just
kind
of
built
on
some
of
the
previous
versions,
still
kind
of
rough
estimates,
but
looking
at
what
potentially
could
be
done
as
the
treasury
grows
more
and
so
the
two
things
there
are
one
sketched
out.
G
What
cost
would
be,
maybe
over
the
next
six
to
twelve
months
as
the
kind
of
positions
or
jobs
that
dx
dow
looks
to
kind
of
bring
on
including
those
costs
and
then
second,
some
ideas
on
what
exactly
to
do
with
the
treasury
over
the
next
kind
of
month
or
two?
Maybe
to
diversify
it
and
put
it
as
a
dx
swap
product.
I
mean
gig
style,
products
and
elsewhere
and
what
those
numbers
would
look
like.
G
So
you
can
check
out
the
thread
for
more
for
that
and
then
yeah,
just
the
two
plugs
done.
At
the
end,
we
had
a
good
thc
voting
rights,
discussion
and
there's
a
great
john
po
john
has
a
good
post
on
this,
and
then
yeah
talked
a
lot
about
the
bonding
curve.
Really
interesting
conversation.
The
bold
came
on,
who
is
the
ceo
of
fairment,
so
it
kind
of
could
give
us
a
lot
of
context
and
some
of
the
technical
details.
G
To
be
honest,
I
was
writing
notes
for
the
governance
call
and
I
like
couldn't
really
write
any
notes
for
the
discussion
because
it
was
kind
of
so
much
more
than
anything.
I
could
summarize
so
I
mean
the
thread.
G
Kind
of
has
a
very
good
back
and
forth,
but
clearly
this
is
something
that
I
think
the
community
is
trying
to
reach
consensus
on
right
and
so
consensus
seeking
is
kind
of
about
arguing
discussing
letting
these
things
kind
of
come
out
to
the
to
the
forefront,
and
so
it
was
a
really,
I
think,
good
discussion
on
on
that
front.
G
I
think
there
is
at
least
an
understanding
that
there
is
a
big
technical,
lift
to
any
potential
change
to
the
curve,
and
that
that
is,
can
you
know,
even
if
fairmen,
consider
kind
of
working
out
that
that's
a
couple
months
away,
given
that
kind
of
that
there
would
probably
be
need
to
be
new
smart
contracts
deployed
so
yeah
the
the
thread
kind
of
goes
into
more
detail,
but
it
it.
G
It
seems,
like
there's,
still
a
lot
that
there's
not
really
kind
of
certainty,
your
consensus
on
doing
something
right
now
with
the
curve.
It's
kind
of
we
need
to
explore
how
this
affects
other
things.
Long
term
has
next
dc
voting
rights.
So
to
me
this
is
kind
of
part
of
a
larger
discussion
about
ghd's
role
in
deep
state,
and
I
think,
there's
kind
of
some
some
development
in
relationship
building
and
maybe
some
moves
that
gets
down.
A
I
also
liked
what
you
were
saying
chris
about
like
thinking
of
it,
almost
as
a
governance
like
as
an
analogy
to
ethereum.
Like
a
you,
know,
governance,
one
point
x
and
then
like
maybe
eventually
like
a
governance
2.0
that
maybe
addresses
deeper
issues
in
a
more
fundamental.
A
Way,
cool
yeah-
and
I
think
you
know,
with
the
increase
in
treasury
and
the
diverse
set
of
products,
finding
new
developers
and
new
business
development
and
community
focuses,
is
a
top
priority
and
yeah.
Hopefully
a
lot
there's
a
few
avenues
which
we
can
kind
of
start
to
open
up
to
make
sure
people
can
hear
about
dx
now
and
kind
of
maybe
get
some
kind
of
a
pipeline
going
on
new
workers.
A
So
there's
a
down
rush
week
that
ingomar
mentioned
the
deep
dow
banner
ad,
so
deep
down
is
a
site
that
kind
of
it's
almost
like
a
d5
pulse
but
for
dows
sort
of-
or
you
know,
coin
market
cap
for
for
dows
that
the
proposal
passed,
which
you
know
basically
purchased
some
banner
ads
3dx
now
within
detail.
I
you
know,
there's
some
talk
about
what
that
should
be,
whether
it's
products
or
jobs,
but
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
going
to
be
an
opportunity
to
spread
the
word
a
bit
and
yeah.
A
G
Yeah
and
I
think
that
everyone
knows
that
people
tend
to
join
communities,
because
someone
tells
them
to
right,
someone
kind
of
brings
them
in
and
that's
assuming
how
everyone
here
was
being
involved.
So
it's
always
good
to
just
kind
of
be
sending
information
and
updates.
I
think
about
dicks
down
to
different
people
and
who
knows,
when
they
kind
of
will
get
involved
with
the
community
as
they
grow.
But
it's
not
something
where
you
just
kind
of
like
find
someone
and
then
instantly
kind
of
inject
them
into
the
community.
G
It
really
is
kind
of
individual
community
members
like
bringing
people
that
they
think
would
be
value
added
and
good
contributors
to
the
extent
along,
and
so
I'm
definitely
I'm
very
excited
for
that
rush,
because
just
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
plant
the
seed
in
a
lot
of
different
people,
as
hopefully
that
will
germinate
over
the
coming
weeks
and
months.
C
Yeah,
so
this
started
because
we've
seen
user
user
usage
of
omen
drop
significantly
as
gas
prices
have
gone
up,
so
we're
not
sure
that's
a
reason,
but
we
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons.
So
one
of
the
simple
things
you
can
do,
which
poly
market
had
tried
too,
is
let's
what?
If
we
could
tell
everyone
come
use
omen
trade
as
much
as
you
want.
Don't
worry
about
the
gas
and
dx
dial
is
going
to
pay
the
gas
for
you.
That
would
create
volume
that
would
create
marketing.
C
That
would
create
a
lot
of
things
and
more
usage.
Hopefully,
so
one
way
to
do
it
is
when
people
and
when
people
trade
we
like
keep
over
the
course
of
a
month,
keep
a
track
of
a
list
of
every
wallet,
that's
traded
and
then
run
the
script
that
nico
and
augusto
are
using
for
reimbursement
and
like
do
it
on
a
manual
basis
once
a
month.
C
The
other
thing
that
you
can
do
in
the
ethereum
world,
which
became
popular
for
quite
a
while,
is
like
sponsoring
gas.
So
argent
did
it
ethereum
did
it,
they
did
it.
A
lot
of
them
have
stopped
doing
it
because
it's
gotten
expensive,
but
they
don't
really
have
products.
They
just
have
wallets
right,
so
they're,
just
paying
for
everyone's
gas,
so
ethereum
has
a
has
a
way
to
do
gas
less
or
to
sponsor
gas
transactions
for
users.
C
But
when
you
do
that,
so,
if
you
think
about
the
user
experience,
you
come
to
omen,
you
have
to
connect
your
wallet.
You
either
currently
connect
through
through
wallet
connect
or
through
metamask.
Those
are
two
options,
so
ethereum
has
a
a
way
for
when
you
could,
through
ethereum,
connect
using
your
wallet
connect,
but
you
have
to
basically
kind
of
go
through
ethereum.
It's
not
it's
not
just
direct
to
wall
connect
and
then
have
ethereum
like
watch
it
like
you're,
connecting
through
wallet
connect
on
autherium,
so
you
can
still
log
in
with
your
wallet
connect.
C
C
We
have
a
pot
of
money
that
the
dx
dow
has
put
into
a
a
gas
tank
basically,
and
then
that
pays
for
all
users,
gas
fees
assuming
they
go
through
the
wallet,
connect,
ethereum
method
and
it
works,
and
and
there's
like
there
are
ways
to
spam
it
right.
C
So
someone
could
like
spam
the
thing
to
like
and
then
drain
the
gas
tank,
but
ethereum
did
this
for
six
months
and
they've
come
up
with
lots
of
anti-spam
solutions
in
order
to
not
just
waste
money
out
of
the
gas
tank,
and
they
seem
to
be
confident
that
it
worked
so
we
would
be
protected
by
all
of
those
measures,
plus
whatever
like
limits.
We
want
to
put
in
place
like
per
wallet
or
per
user
or
per
market.
So
it's
that's
a
sim.
That's
the
that's!
Not
this!
It
would
take
some
dev
implementation.
C
C
C
Free,
but
but
if
we
do,
if
the
dx
doubt
does
it
like,
we
could
do
things
like
pay
half
back
in
each
half
in
dxd
or
some
percentage
or
I
don't
know,
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
ways
you
could
play
with
it,
but
I
think
we
just
need
to
do
something
like
no
one
traded
on.
I
don't
know.
Well
not
many
people
traded
on
john's
level
k
t-shirt
market
because
it
costs
15
to
do
the
trade.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I
just
I.
I
think
this
is
a
you
know
supporting
takes
down
products,
I
think
is
like
so
important
right
now.
I
think
government
is
an
awesome
product
and
it's
kind
of
parting,
something
out
now,
so
I
think
figuring
out
how
to
support
that.
I
think
is
a
a
great
idea.
I
mean
if
it's
just
kind
of
increasing
visibility
and
some
users,
just
a
few
users.
F
About
what
what
what
one
more
than
ask
on
the
on
the
chat,
if
it
can
be
on
the
same
transaction
on
the
unchanged
level,
the
way
the
the
dxe
boarding
machine
that
we
are
going
to
use
on
coven,
that
refunds,
a
gas
part
or
part
of
the
gas
cost
in
in
the
transaction
on
on
chain
level?
That
is
something
that
has
been
30
and
something
that
we
will
use.
But
for
that
you
need
to
change
the
smart
contracts.
F
So
once
we
have
that
tested
on
chain
on
our
on
our
governance
systems,
I
guess
it
can
be
implemented
on
online
and
on
other
products
where,
basically,
if
it
functions
the
same,
you
send
ether
that
is
going
to
be
used
to
refund
percentage
of
the
gas
cost.
If
it
has
ether
it
will
refund,
if
it
doesn't,
it
won't,
and
you
can
configure
the
the
percentage
of
ether
that
you
want
to
be
refunded.
C
Oh
yeah,
the
augusta,
is
there
still
you
talk,
we
talk
a
lot
about
coven
is
there?
Is
there
still
like
a
voting
or
signaling
tool
that
we're
going
to
use
coven
for
on
a
regular
basis,
or
is
that
just
for
testing?
C
Because
that's
what
does
it
go
because
because
yeah
my
I
have
a
big
concern
that
I
I
would
argue
that
80
of
people
that
hold
rep
hold
it
in
a
gnosis,
smart
contract
wallet
or
a
gnosis
multi-state.
F
I
don't
know,
maybe
you
can.
Maybe
I
I
think
I
think
the
world
has
a
mechanism
where
you
don't
have
to
relate
transactions.
You
can
just
send
them
so
in
case
in
case
that
happens.
C
C
F
F
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
good
yeah!
That's
something
that
we
should
figure
out.
C
Because
yeah,
because
this
is
this
has
come
up
also
with
lots
of
projects-
are
looking
at
like
xdi,
for
example,
and
and
there
are
people
that
need
to
use
multi
stigs
and
the
the
answer
right
now
is
like
that
they
that
people
are
like
transferring
tokens
between
two
different
multi-sticks
on
two
different
chains,
and
you
can
do
that.
But
you
have
to
send
it,
but
you,
obviously
you
can't
send
rep,
so
it
doesn't
work
with
rep.
It
might
work
with
an
erc20
token,
but
not
with
wrap.
C
A
C
Yeah
well,
first
of
all,
they're
not
going
to
mirror
they're
not
going
to
stay
equal
to
each
other
on
two
different
networks
and
then
they're,
just
like
as
a
state
as
a
snapshot
and
then
like
every
every
owner
would
have
to
have
a
different
wallet
on
coven.
I
think.
F
Yeah
something
that
something
that
can
be
done,
we
have
the
it
will
be
split.
The
reputation
I
mean.
If,
if
you
have
tens,
I
mean
nine
something
prep
holding
in
exchanges
wallet
where
they
have
three
owners
split
the
reputation
among
those
three
accounts
and
having
coven,
where
you
can
sign
with
those
three
accounts
you
got
it
I
mean
we
know
I
mean.
F
If
we
can,
we
can
know
if
the
interface
on
mainnet
is
section,
I
see
what
it
if
it
is,
we
take
the
owners,
which
is
the
accounts
that
can
be
used
on
coven
and
forward
the
reputation
there
where,
if
you
give
the
repetition
there
yeah
where
they
can
sign
office,
half
of
that
address
yeah.
We
want
you
to
find
it.
F
Yeah
and
yeah,
not
for
now.
First,
the
important
thing
is
that
this
is
not
an
issue
of
the
of
of
the
current
system
implementation.
This
is
the
this
will
affect
how
the
reputation
will
be
distributed
on
government
to
match
the
one
that
we
have
made.
F
So
we
will
need
to
find
a
way
to
allow
those
those
wallets
or
maintenance
sign
in
at
least
most
of
them,
where,
if
it
is
a
genocide
quality,
you
take
the
owner
of
the
world
of
the
owners
and
you
move
the
reputation
to
them.
C
One
more
complication
is
john,
like
you
said,
a
lot
of
people
use
like
the
smart
contract,
gnosis
wallet,
which
is,
I
don't
even
know
if
that
has
the
two
like
the
a
normal
multi-sig,
has
like
three
normal
addresses.
They
need
two
of
three
normal
addresses,
the
smart
contract
wallet
with
a
lot
of
people
use.
I
don't
actually
know
if
people
have
access
to
the
two
wallets
two
addresses
that
make
up
that
smart
contract
wallet.
I
don't
know
it's
confusing.
A
Yeah,
so
there's
it's
a
little
confusing,
because
the
history
is
that
gnosis
had
a
gnosis
safe,
like
mobile,
app
wallet
and
as
as
well
as
the
gnosis
safe,
multisig
they're
sunsetting,
that
mobile
app
wall
that
one,
I
think,
was
actually
the
one
that
got
most
used
during
the
staking
period
because
that's
what
they
were
recommending
to
use
and
at
the
time,
though,
the
safe
wasn't
on
mobile
or
the
multisig
wasn't
on
mobile.
A
They
basically
merged
all
this
into
like
the
safe
multi-sig,
which
now
has
a
browser
and
they're
also
working
on
a
mobile
version
of
it.
The
good
news
is,
it
all
uses
the
same
underlying
smart
contracts
and
you
can
migrate
your
mobile
wallet
like
legacy
mobile
to
the
new
version
of
safe
worksafe.
A
They
haven't
officially
released
like
the
new
mobile
version,
though
so
it's
basically
just
something
that
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
and
make
sure
it's
supported,
for
example,
but
I
don't
think
there's
any
problem
where
people
are
just
going
to
be
stuck
on
some
legacy
version.
That
can't
be
there's
actually
a
couple
articles
I
don't
have
in
handy,
but
the
gnosis
has
a
couple
articles
about
this.
A
All
right
so
yeah
getting
a
little
bit
into
the
technical
weeds
there,
but
I
think
we're
since
we're
a
little
over.
We
could
wrap
up
here
and
once
there's
any
objections
with
everybody
have
a
good
day.