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From YouTube: DXdao Weekly Meeting #16 [2020-10-15]
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B
Welcome
to
the
weekly
call,
usually
we
start
by
talking
about
product
updates
and
geronimo.
Do
you
want
to
lead
us
off
with
women.
A
So
today
we
are
gonna
release
1.1.8,
which
includes
two
important
ui
changes,
primarily
the
market
details
view
is
way
more
polished
and
the
crate
market
process
was
also
polished.
So
there
is
a
there
was
a
redesign,
and
this
was
implemented
in
that
release
and
we
fixed
a
critical
bug
for
redeeming
multiple
outcome
tokens
from
one
market.
A
So
there
was
one
person
who
owned
more
than
just
one
outcome:
token
for
one
specific
market
which
which
got
invalid
because
the
on
there,
this
resolution
date
or
closing
dates.
The
the
answer
was
known
for
that
question.
So
all
the
outcomes
got
invalid
and
it
seems
like
there
was
a
bug
which
we
fixed.
So
that's
like
a
very
important
thing
and
in
terms
of
our
ethereum,
we
announced
finally,
the
ethereum
program
where
the
dxdoll
is
paying
for
limited
amount
of
eat
for
gas
transaction
for
transactions
and
what
else.
C
Yeah,
the
clemaj
had
sent
out
recently
the
second
month
of
of
rewards,
and
he
usually
sends
it
out
by
by
excel
and
like
lets
the
community.
Look
it
over
to
see
if
anyone's,
missing
or
anything
and
then
and
then
it
makes
the
payments
or
then
claros
makes
the
payments.
And
so
that's
that's
in
the
last.
That's
in
the
process
of
that
last
month
ending-
and
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
plan
for
a
continued
month
after
that.
C
I'm
sure
he'll
give
some
feedback,
but
it's
on
it
was
unfortunate
that
the
liquidity
providing
incentive
was
at
the
same
exact
two
months
as
jacked
up
gas,
so
it
threw
off.
I
think
that,
even
as
learning
from
from
that,
almost
so
we'll
see
what
claros
thinks
about
it
overall,
but
I
I
don't
think
it
continues
after
this
yep.
B
Yeah,
if
people
listening
here
want
to
check
out
the
free,
the
gas,
the
sponsored
gas
prices
and
check
out
open
how
do
they,
how
do
they
do.
C
That
you
there's
a
there's
a
well
there's
an
article,
a
medium
article
which
you
can
get
through
via
twitter,
omen,
twitter,
gnosis,
twitter
and
there's
a
video
on
dxdow's
youtube
for
how
to
how
do
you
how
to
use
it?
But
you
basically
just
need
an
ethereum
wallet
at
ethereum.com
and
then
you
can
use
omen
and
you
sign
it
with
ethereum.
B
B
And
I
can
move
to
mesa
so
there's
a
new
release
from
the
gnosis
open
source
repo,
which
adds
xdi
integration,
and
it
also
will
sort
the
tokens
in
the
balances
page
alphabetically,
there's
also
a
bunch
of
small
fixes
as
well,
but
it
doesn't
just
minor
fixes.
B
The
only
thing
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
here
is
how
to
get
the
token
list
on
xdi,
and
I
know
nico
actually
deployed
the
tcr
scheme
to
x9,
or
has
that
already,
so
I'm
just
coordinating
with
those
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
correctly
how
how
to
pull
that
list
on
next
time,
and
I
guess
sky-
I
don't
know
if
you
know
more
about
this,
but
we
we
need
to
add
the
plug-in
to
the
x-9
front
end
as
well.
For
the
token
registry.
C
B
E
E
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
let
me
see,
I
think,
right
now.
We
deployed
some
some
liquidity
for
you,
usd
serious,
usb
usbc
and
die
and
ease
and
stick
so
stable
coins
if
and
stake
right
now,
that's
the
basic
initial
liquidity
and
I
think
it
will
be
also
cool
to
to
try
an
ideo
on.
I
don't
know
if,
if
like
solely
on
on
big
slide
by
maybe
in
parallel
or
something
could
be
interesting,.
F
H
G
G
I
do
wonder
if,
like
the
best
case
scenario
is
if
you
could
have
like
two
auctions
running
at
once,
where,
like
the
ethereum
main
chain,
is
where
larger
orders
of
a
certain
size
that
mace
already
makes
sense
for
now
and
then
x
dies
where
you
would
have
smaller
orders
and
that
they
could
even
like
the
existence
of
both
of
them,
could
create
a
little
kind
of
feedback
loop
between
them,
because
you
could
reach
a
wider
audience.
C
So
a
luna
luna
socials
post
about
their
ido,
I'm
pretty
sure,
is
luna.
They
already
said
that
mesa
is
only
for
2500
orders
and
above
and
so
they
could
just
take.
You
know
five
percent
of
their
what
they
want
to
sell
bridge
that
across
and
at
the
same
time
do
that
it's
unless
you're
just
doing
some
like
random
tests,
it
makes
sense
for
a
real
ideo.
C
That's
doing
it
on
real
omen,
mainnet
to
also
take
a
smaller
chunk
and
put
it
on
like
you're,
describing
at
the
same
time
because
their
their
answer
right
now
was
once
the
whole
thing
happens.
C
We're
then
going
to
feed
a
a
unit
swap
pool
and
all
you
little
guys
can
come
in
and
get
some
token,
but
by
that
time,
it's
too
late.
So
if
they,
if
they
take
that
little
bit
of
effort,
I
think
they
can
just
replicate
what
they're
doing
with
a
smaller
amount
on
nxt
and
send
the
audience
there.
E
Yeah,
the
dynamic
will
be
interesting.
It
will,
I
guess,
incentivize
people
to
to
go
to
weeks
died
because
there's
going
to
be
tokens
that
if,
if
nobody
goes
there,
they
might
be
very
cheap.
E
I
think
the
like
those
that
the
team
needs
to
find
the
right
balance
between
amount
of
tokens
for
each
for
dick
style
and
maintenance.
So
there's
not
an
ad,
though
not
too
big,
of
a
difference
in
demand
in
both.
C
And
in
the
other
we
did
talk
about
in
the
past
daniel
token,
which
is
obviously
a
not
a
giant
ideo,
but
it's
a
smaller
cool,
personal
token
or
social
token
experiment
that
that
would
be
one
the
one,
an
example
of
like.
Let's
just
do
that
on
xdi,
I
think
daniel
specifically
said
that
that
would
he
has
a
big
audience
and
a
lot
of
people
haven't
had
a
desire
for
mainnet.
But
like
a
smaller
token,
that
was
where
someone
was
open
to
doing
it
all
on
xdi.
C
That
would
be
like
the
one
one,
the
one,
the
all-in
like
all-encompassing,
just
only
on
xdi
ideo,
but
we
we
need
to
find
that.
I
guess.
B
It
might
be
cool
to
talk
more
with
the
one
hive
community
because
they
know
they
have
their
their
honeyswap.org,
which
is
like
the
unison
fork
on
x-die,
and
I
think
their
community
is
actually
pretty
vibrant.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
here
has
like
gone
to
their
community
calls
or
anything,
but
it's
kind
of
all
my
to-do
list
to
do
that
at
some
point.
B
Okay,
any
anything
else
on
mesa
or
idea.
B
F
Yes,
well
what
what
has
been
done
there?
I
know
that
I
know
federico
is
working
on
the
sdk
integrating
the
token
list.
He
had
he
run
into
into
some
issues,
because
we
had
to
use
the
multi-core
contract
and
it
was
failing
when
you,
for
example,
we
wanted
to
get
the
symbol
decimals
and
name
of
every
token
if
one
of
those
tokens
haven't
implemented
it
which
interesting.
This
is
not
inside
the
erc20
standard,
the
the
name,
symbol
and
decimal.
It
was
just
adopted
by
the
by
the
community.
F
So
if
the
contra,
if
a
token,
is
not
implementing
it
on
the
multicall,
when
you
are
trying
to
get
all
the
tokens,
information
see
what
it
was
going
to
fail.
So
I
know
that
fedeco
right
now
is
working
on
the
deployment
of
of
a
multi-core
contract
that
can
be
used
all
across
our
apps
and
also
with
the
option
to
not
fail.
F
If,
if
one
of
I
know
a
hundred
calls
was
fighting
to
still
continue
with
the
call,
we
also
now
have
a
fee
center
on
a
fee
setter
contract
on
the
dx
swap
core.
It
was
previewed
by
by
john
and
nico
and
merch
and
related
with
the
core
contracts,
which
is
the
most
important
and
the
crucial
part
of
dxo.
We
are
going
to
test
the
deployment
on
rinke
by
today,
I'm
going
to
deploy
the
dxo
deployer
and
we
are
going
to
execute
a
simulated
the
deployment
the
same
way
that
it
will
happen
on.
F
And
then,
once
we
have
the
the
contracts
employ
on
drink
away,
we
are
going
to
update
it
up
and
bring
like
how
can
we
say
I
get
the
extra
testing
run
where
anyone
can
go
and
test
with
test
tokens
and
see
how
it
feels
to
make
sure
that
we
have
everything
ready
for
maintenance.
F
I
think
that's
that's
everything
and
well
also.
There
is
a
lot
of
work
being
done
on
the
reliable
side.
Nico
is
working
on
that
and
it's
going
to
be
ready
for
it
soon.
Right,
john.
B
Right
on
the
on
the
integration
with
the
ex-outside
niko
and
with
some
support
from
doubt,
stack
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work.
There's
an
iteration
actually
on
the
multi-call
scheme
to
add
some
constraints,
which
will
improve
security
and
to
also
up
be
allow
the
white
list
to
be
updatable,
which
is
going
to
allow
it
to
be
much
more
flexible
and
kind
of
give
us
the
support.
B
B
You
know,
and
it
also
needs
to
find
the
on-chain
price,
so
I
really
think
we're
trailblazing
there
and
that
is
about
to
go
into
audit
next
week
and
finally,
as
as
well
as
that
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
the
design
and
has
also
integrated,
you
know
kind
of
broken
down.
B
I
No,
I
added
all
the
cards
there
and
also
I'm
working
on
for
the
marketing
department,
but
the
adding
I'm
actually
starting
with
a
the
first
brand
guideline
for
dx
swap
and
probably
trying
to
like
just
combine
all
the
brands
on
the
same
platform.
I
think
that's
a
important
step
now
when
we
work
with
that
many
projects.
B
G
Yeah,
I
know
I
thought
seth's
designs
looked
really
really
great
and
exciting
to
see
those-
and
I
did
have
a
chat
with
mike
early
morning
yesterday
kind
of
about
that.
So
hopefully
we'll
have
some
marketing
more
discussion
on
that.
I
think
the
one
area
that
I'm
still
thinking
a
lot-
and
I
think,
there's
not
too
much
consensus
in
the
community-
is
on
how
to
deal
with
txd
rewards
in
any
liquidity
mining
and
how
that
would
kind
of
work,
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
right
now.
G
B
D
No,
I,
but
I
think,
once
version
3.6
of
blue
spring
comes
out.
I
suppose
we
can
get
another
like
tweet
post
and
like
video
from
mike
elia
out
about
it,
because
I
think
it's
kind
of
amazing
being
able
to
send
crypto
to
any
wallet.
You
know
the
usability
is
kind
of
limited
to
other
people
on
the
the
second
layer
but
being
able
to
transmit
to
like
anybody.
B
Totally
and
at
the
moment
there
aren't
any
dev
resources,
I
think
like
focused
on
rails,
but
that
is
about
to
change,
because
federico
will
be
moving
to
full
time
in
about
a
week.
G
Yeah-
and
I
think
just
thinking
about
rails
now
is
like
a
product
that
exists
and
how
it
has
strategic
positioning.
I
think
for
dx
stout
because
of
being
kind
of
a
front
end
for
the
blueprint
roll
up
and
looking
at
how
that
may
develop,
and
I
think
gangnam
r
is
pointing
out
how
just
the
how
the
roll-up
itself
will
come
with
new
functional
functionality
and
how
rails
will
benefit
from
that,
and
I
also
think
kind
of
because
of
the
product
right
now.
G
Yes,
you
can
send
kind
of
crypto
everywhere
layer,
two
scaling,
but
there
aren't
as
a
whole
lot
of
use
cases
in
the
market
right
now.
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
the
community-
and
you
know
dick
stop
members
to
figure
out
what
are
some
kind
of
interesting
fun
ways
that
we
could
use
the
product
engage
with
the
community,
some
other
other
way,
as
as
just
a
way
to
demonstrate
the
capability.
B
And
one
of
the
features
in
the
next
version
of
loop
ring
that
ingobar
mentioned
is
that
you
can
actually
send
to
any
ethereum
address
whether
or
not
it's
already
registered
on
loop
ring,
which
you
can't
do
currently
right.
So
I
think
that
opens
up
the
door
for
some
creativity
on
on
creating
engagement,
some
fun
stuff.
We
could
do
there
potentially.
B
Okay,
great,
I
guess
on
the
product
side
that
those
are
the
products.
I
think
it's
probably
worth
also
talking
a
little
bit
about
governance
kind
of
touched
on
it
with
dx
swap
so
the
multi-call
scheme
that
is
being
worked
on
for
dx
swap
there's
also
a
front
end
that
I
got
previewed
this
week
that
downstack
has
been
working
on.
You
know.
B
Basically,
what
is
the
interface
for
the
this
multi
call
scheme
so
like
yes,
we're
going
to
use
it
for
the
the
relayer
and
the
fee
center
on
dx
swap
so
basically
to
interact
with
dx
swap.
This
is
critical
for
dx
dxnow,
but
it
also
is
going
to
open
up
a
lot
of
other
possibilities
for
the
dow
to
interact
with
other
protocols
on
ethereum.
So
I
think
to
start
the
thinking
right
now
is
the
list
should
be
pretty
limited.
B
G
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
really
cool
more
than
anything,
it
just
kind
of
get
some
take
a
moment
to
kind
of
reflect
on
that,
and
I
think
it
swap
as
kind
of
we
talk
more
and
more
about
it.
We
kind
of
realize
that
the
real
innovation
and
a
lot
of
the
real
work
is
about
the
dx,
dow
launching
and
supplying
liquidity,
not
necessarily
that
it's
a
fork
of
unit
swap.
G
So
I
think
it's
really
cool
to
go
through
these
different
processes
and
have
to
build
these
capabilities
because,
as
john
said,
like
you
build
them
for
one
thing
and
they
are
could
be
kind
of
reused
by
by
not
just
dx
now,
but
you
know,
potentially
kind
of
other
groups.
I
think
it's
a
definitely
a
step
forward
and
something
to
be,
we
can
be
proud
of.
B
Yeah
and,
for
instance,
the
relay
our
contract,
which
is
allowing
tx
now
to
provide
liquidity
to
dx,
swap,
could
potentially
be
used
in
the
future
by
other
dows
that
needed
that
are
interested
in
doing
the
same
thing,
and
because
I
mean
the
difference
being
like
taos,
have
to
do
things
very
much
more
in
the
open
with
proposals
and
some
time
lag
right
like
it's.
B
B
So
this
is
actually
just
a
new
governance.
Voting
contract
for
erc20
tokens
and
gusto
has
been
doing
most
of
the
work
here,
and
he
can.
You
know
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
any
of
this,
but
it's
going
to
be
able
to
take
a
snapshot
of
an
erc,
20
balances,
and
I
think
the
first
use
case
we're
looking
at
is
allowing
dxd
to
actually
do
voting.
So
you
can
imagine
a
dxd
guild
that
actually
has
some
reputation
allocation
from
takes
dow
and
dxd
voters
will
actually
be
able
to
employ
and
participate
in.
B
B
B
Other
than
you
know,
a
couple
of
active
dow
talk
threads
and
a
couple
of
you
know
vocal
people
on
telegram.
I
really
have
no
idea
what
percentage
of
you
know,
because
I
think
it's
something
like
16
or
1700
addresses
holding
dxd.
B
You
know
so
that's
like
four
times
the
number
of
rep
holding
addresses,
but
we
really
have
no
idea
like
what
percentage
of
those
people
would
want
to
really
participate
in
some
sense.
So
I
think
that's
actually
one
of
the
great
things
about
dhd
guild
is
it.
It
will
allow
us
to
have
some
sense
of
what
that
interest
is
right,
we'll
see
who
yeah
comes
and
participates.
E
B
More
of
an
operational
thing,
but
when
it
comes
to
something
strategic
or
you
know
that
they
few
would
impact
the
price
of
dxd.
Obviously
that
could
matter
a
lot
more.
F
F
The
the
interesting
thing
here
is
the
the
amount
of
rep
that
is
going
to
be
issued
to
the
gear
it's
going
to
be
controlled
by
dsl,
so
we
can
even
start
with
a
with
a
low
amount
of
reputation
to
make
sure
that
the
gear
is
working
tested
and
later.
If
we
see
like
a
lot
of
increase
and
the
yield
wants
to
get
more
and
more,
there
will
be,
there
will
be
many
options
for
that.
F
F
F
B
B
D
Yeah
we
had
a
product
demo
from
almonite
which
showed
how
we
could
potentially
create
a
decentralized
publication
for
ourselves,
which
seemed
pretty
awesome
from
the
look
of
it
and
we
had
representative
from
fuse
isaac
was
his
name
proposed,
a
potential
like
validator
collaboration
with
the
dx
dow,
where
the
dxda
would
help
with
the
validation
of
the
network.
Of
course,
it
would
cost
the
price
of
a
validator.
D
So
I
think
where
we're
at
with
that
is
just
seeing
whether
that's
even
technically
feasible
for
a
dow
to
handle
that,
and
then
I
think,
would
follow
the
discussion
of
what's
in
this
for
the
dow
and
is
this
an
investment
thing?
Is
this
like
a
governance
thing
so,
but
yeah
that
conversation
got
started?
D
Those
were
those
were
like
the
two
main
agenda
points
of
that
call.
B
Yeah
regarding
the
validators
with
fuse-
I
I
did
it.
I
was
wondering
how
that
could
potentially
work
with
dxdown,
because
I
think,
if
there's
a
need
to
run
like
a
cloud-based
server
or
you
know,
basically
a
server
sitting
in
a
server
farm
or
somebody
somebody's
apartment
somewhere.
The
dx
now
has
no
like
real
way
to
control
that
as
far
as
I'm
aware
so
I
I
did
get
a
ping
from
fuse
on
telegram.
B
So
I'm
going
to
follow
up
with
them
and
try
to
like
just
talk
it
through
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page,
but
I
think
that's
a
potential
blocker
on
the
validator
stuff,
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
tx
staff
could
control
validators.
E
A
Yeah,
I
guess,
doesn't
have
any
legal
way
to
like
enforce
stuff.
So
I
think
if
the
d
star,
I
think
the
dxo
should
only
approve
those
kind
of
like
external
untouchable
by
the
dx
star
services.
Only
if
it's
run
by
rep
holders,
because
then
the
the
only
thing
the
d
cell
can
do.
If,
if,
if
they're
malicious,
they
could
just
like
burn
the
rip.
But
I'm
skeptical
about
like
the
d
star,
paying
for
some
some
company
doing
like
providing
some
kind
of
service
because
they
can
always
shut
down
stuff.
E
E
B
I
think
that
is
possible,
but
I
think
where
it
makes
sense
is
probably
use
case
dependent
right.
So
if
it's
a
service
that
geeks
down
just
want
thinks
is,
like
a
value,
add
and
wants
to
incentivize
or
pay
for
then
I
sort
of
think
it
makes
sense
in
a
validator
case,
I
feel
like
the
kind
of
purpose
there
is
to
have
a
trusted
validator
right.
So
if
the
intent
is
dxdown
as
a
validator
hiring
a
third-party
company
to
run
on
behalf
of
the
dx.
G
But
I
I
do
agree
a
little
bit
with
hen
that
this
is
kind
of
like
at
some
point.
There's
a
conversation
about
like
how
can
detail
like
have
more
control
really.
G
In
general-
and
I
think
it's
not
possible
right
now,
but
there's
lots
of
maybe
there's
kind
of
some
developments
in
this
space.
Everything
about
it,
obviously,
where
geek
style
is
relying
on
hardware
of
ethereum
miners
right
like
those
exist,
and
they
are
kind
of
powering
in
a
way
except
but
like
you,
trust
them,
because
they
are
centralized
they're,
trustless
and
permissionless
to
join
those
in
a
way.
So
just
think
about
like
how
that
those
type
of
properties
could
eventually
be
transferred
over
to
other
hardware,
like
you
know,
validators
or
or
whatnot.
B
Yeah,
I
think
it
it
could
provide
incentives
to
do
things
right
if
it's
open
and
really
in
a
way
geeksdown
is
paying
the
ethereal
miners
every
time.
There's
a
gas
reimbursement
proposal
right
for
the
voters
and-
and
it
already
is
paying
people
to
deliver
services
in
the
form
of
writing
code.
B
So
I
think
if
the
trust
model
is
in
the
same
kind
of
vein,
it's
actually
possible
today
to
hire
a
company
to
run
something
right
like
if
I
mean,
and
maybe
even
like
gnosis
protocol
solvers,
might
be
a
good
example
if
pixel
felt
that
ideos
would
go
better
if
there
was
another
solver
running
and
json
wanted
to
pay
a
third
party
to
run
that
on
behalf
of
the
dx
tau,
I
think
that
could
make
sense.
B
I
mean
if,
if
it
goes
down
like
things
break,
that's
bad,
I
mean,
but
it
doesn't
there's
not
like
this
inherent
trust
given
to
the
solvers
to
actually
handle
the
user's
funds
or
anything
like
that
right
where,
whereas
like
on
validator
node
on
a
blockchain,
I
think
is
a
whole
other
level
of
like
trust
that
you're
looking
for.
So
I
that
I
think
it's
kind
of
nuanced,
but
but
I
can
see
different.
E
B
B
Okay,
great
anything
else
in
the
from
the
biz
dev,
it
seems
like
we
actually,
so
we
have
albany
the
the
blog
provider
and
there's
some
question
of
whether
we
could
use
it.
There
there's
also
some
effort
internally
or
you
know,
from
there
of
workers
on
the
bx
now
making
a
very
lightweight
blogging
app
for
the
landing
page
that
could
be
ultimately
controlled
by
the
dxdo
itself
by
you
know,
basically
assigning
multi-things
that
can
actually
update
it,
but
give
a
little
more
flexibility
and
speed
to
updating
content
on
the
landing
page.
B
I
think
there's
some
sense
that
there's
no
right
now,
there's
no
unified
blog
for
dx
now,
and
also
often,
I
think
the
landing
page
is
just
it
lags.
H
Behind
the
times,
because
it
takes
a
while
to
develop
and
then
big
proposals
yeah,
I
guess
that's
something.
F
We
we
need
to
flush
out,
but
yes
about
that
yeah
I
I
can
give
you
I
can
give
a
shot
update
there.
I
was
talking
with
he's
the
one
who
is
he's
a
developer
who's
working
on
the
on
the
blog.
F
The
the
idea
would
be
to
build
a
blog
that
can
be
generated
from
a
we
can
call
it
like
a
unified
static
database,
for
example,
where
you
put
all
the
blog
content
in
one
file
and
later
in
the
future.
This
file
can
be
managed
through
an
ens
sub
domain
of
the
exile
and
governed
by
a
multi-signature
of
content
creators.
F
So
this
can.
This
will
allow
the
content
creators
to
change
the
content
of
this
file
and
develop.
We
update
on
our
website
that
idea,
because,
if
not,
we
will
have
to,
for
example,
like
redeploy
the
the
website
every
time
we
want
to
add
a
blog.
For
now
we
have
been
talking
only
for
very
casual
blogging,
like
maybe
one
or
two
articles
per
month,
but
still
that's
a
lot
to
make
things
easier
for
a
content
creator.
That
would
be
the
the
initiative
where
the
our
developer
is
already
working
on.
B
That
yeah,
and
so
it
it
could
be
updated
by
the
content
creators
via
multisig
or
whatever
group
of
people
are
assigned
to
this
multi-thing,
but
the
dxo
itself
would
have
power
over
control
over.
You
know
whether
that
multisync
actually
can
update
or
not
right.
So
ultimately,
dsm
could
you
know
revoke
that
and
it
still
ultimately
controls
the
domain.
So.
G
Sure
so
governance
discussion
yesterday
was
kind
of
the
first
two
topics:
one
were
gas
refunds
and
kind
of
talking
about
how
reimbursement
of
gas
costs
for
voting
and
proposal
submission
kind
of
looking
at
some
of
those
numbers
around
there.
I
think
nico
was
going
to
prepare
a
thread
on
that
and
then
second
talked
a
lot
about
the
xdi
dx
dao,
clone
and
I'll.
G
Let
elon
or
skye
touch
on
that
more,
but
a
lot
of
things
kind
of
going
on
there
and
then
the
last
thing,
and
I
just
want
to
grab
the
screen
for
a
second.
I
made
a
post
yesterday
on
a
governance,
2.0
working
group,
and
so
just
for
some
background.
As
you
can
see
here,
you
know
the
five
point
plan
which
was
passed
last
month.
G
They
kind
of
laid
out
some
goals
on
how
to
address
some
of
the
long-term
issues
of
governance,
and
this
is
initiative
to
try
to
live
up
fulfill
that
and
and
create
a
working
group
to
research
those
issues
and
present
solutions
to
the
dow,
like
some
of
the
things
with
the
relayer
and
how
this
is
kind
of
the
first
time
of
dow,
with
supplying
liquidity.
You
know
away.
G
Some
of
the
things
that
were
we're
working
on
in
terms
of
coordination
and
governance
are
also
things
that
we're
doing
for
the
first
time.
So
this
is
just
my
first
attempt
in
it,
so
it
definitely
would
be
up
for
feedback
on
this
as
a
specific
proposal,
but
also
kind
of
on
the
idea
of
working
groups
in
general,
so
you'll
see
I
just
kind
of
in
terms
of
the
the
scope
on
laying
it
out.
G
I
think
you
know
the
issues
we've
we've
addressed
is
there's
no
long-term
incentive
for
rep
holders
to
kind
of
provide
good
governance
and,
as
as
we
were
just
discussing
before,
there's
a
misalignment
of
dxd
and
rep
long
term,
and
obviously
dxd
has
no
actual
role
right
now
in
governance.
G
Be
that
a
say
in
governance
as
we're
talking
about
with
the
guild,
or
you
know
necessary
for
governance
in
terms
of
like
staking
so
looking
to
address
those
issues,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
preserve
certain
existing
governance
properties
that
that
I
think,
are
really
core
to
the
to
the
excel,
and
you
mentioned
the
manifesto
and
elsewhere,
just
throughout
some
initial
ideas
on
participants,
I'm
more
than
kind
of
open
to
anyone
that
would
like
to
join.
G
I
think
name
some
people
here
that
I
think
have
expressed
interest
and
then
two
kind
of
outside
groups
that
I
think
have
been
very
interested
in
this
and
has
kind
of
presented
research
already,
delphi,
digital
and
dow
stack,
and
then
I
would
hope
this
would
be
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
engage
some
external
individuals
and
kind
of
provide
some
external
advice
on
on
governance.
The
output
would
be
a
document,
so
potential
solutions,
not
sure
if
this
would
be
one
solution
or
choice
for
many.
So
there
isn't.
G
G
Potential
to
kind
of
do
this
because
I
think
it
will
be
something
a
lot
of
people
will
be
busy.
J
G
Do
we
kind
of
have
time
for
research
and
and
and
planning
and
drafting
different
options?
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
kind
of
be
upfront
that
if
people
do
contribute
to
this
and
it
does
take
some
of
their
time,
I
do
think
there
should
be
compensated
again.
I
don't
really
know
what
exactly
that
looks
like,
and
I
think
any
compensation
would
need
to
be
paid
would
need
to
still
go
through
a
separate
proposal
process.
This
is
just
trying
to
set
some
expectations
and
then
the
transportation,
transparency
and
accountability.
G
I
was
saying
we
would
have
these
meetings
recorded,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
needed
to
there's
some
kind
of
push
back
on
that.
I
think
the
end
of
the
day,
like
rep
holders
are
they're
gonna,
be
this
group
would
be
presenting
something
to
rep
holders.
G
That
would
then
be
acted
upon
or
not
acted
upon,
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
most
important
thing,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
talk
about
this
from
a
governance
structure
standpoint
because
it
is
you
know
something
that
is
is
is
kind
of
forming
outside
of
the
existing
calls
key
base
and
kind
of
sharp
processes
that
we've
been
running
now,
but
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
innovate
on
this
and
be
a
little
bit
more
efficient.
G
So
that's
it.
Please
respond
to
thread
comments,
suggestions
and.
G
And
then,
just
if
there
was
any
on
the
gas
refunds
or
x
die
those
were
kind
of
the
big
topics
of
the
the
conversation
that
the
governance
discussion
there
that
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wanted
to
update.
B
Voting
voting
gas
refunds
just
to
differentiate
from
the
ethereum
moment
program
for.
B
H
Kind
of
be
up
to
date
with
what's
going
on,
and
these
are
major
kind
of
existential
long-term
questions
for
the
doubt.
H
Having
a
well
thought
out
like
effective
approach
to
this,
I
think
is
going
to
be
critical
for
the
future
of
the
expat,
so
something
for
everyone
to
check
out.
B
All
right,
we
have
some
time
here,
there's
things
that
people
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
forward
sky.
I
don't
know
if
you
got
a
chance
last
time.
I
think
the
pambala
program
is
over
now.
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
about
that
everyone,
but.
C
They
want
to
it
hasn't
really
well
so
bitcoin
ground
grants
closed.
It's
still,
panvala
is
not,
is
not
finished,
so
there's
no
recap
post
or
details
because
you
people
can
still
stake
pan
right
now
and
it's
still
affecting
to
the
end
of
this
week,
like
the
the
multiplication
inflation
matching
that
can
happen.
C
We
had
more
participation,
I
guess
than
we
did
in
the
past,
but
we
didn't,
I
think,
like
the
projected
number
is
like
overall
there's
like
eight
thousand
dollars
worth
of
pan
inflation
and
that
will
get
distributed
to
the
ten
award
winners
and
some
have
already
asked
about
it
because
they're
excited
for
it
and
it's
divided
up
by
the
award
winners,
but
I'm
gonna
once
once
it
closes
at
the
after
this
after
this
week,
and
then
they
do
the
distributions
and
the
payouts
go.
C
There
will
be
like
a
more
detailed
recap
of
of
how
it
went
and
and
and
and
the
details
and
the
award
winners,
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
not
that's
what
that's
why
it's
still
a
little
bit
in
flux,
because
the
numbers
are
still
changing
and
it's
not
complete
yet.
B
That's
a
good
question:
geronimo
is
the
the
author
of
the
design
so
I'll.
Let
him
take
this.
D
Maybe
like
there
could
be
a
like
a
next
guy
signal
proposal
made
by
someone
who
really
wants
to
start
it
up,
saying
like
hey,
let's
revisit
this
and
I'm
down
to
lead
it,
and
I
know
such
and
such
and
such
are
interested
for.
You
know
something
along
those
lines.
You
know
we
have
enough
interest
in
reigniting
that
again.
B
B
I
think
that
does,
though
I
mean
remind
me
of
one
of
the
other
points
and
the
five-point
plan
is
like
product
roadmaps
and
strategies.
So
I
think
you
know
we've
all
been
very
heads-down
busy
with
the
you
know,
existing
products
we
have
four
of
them,
so
there's
plenty
to
do
and
there's
also
a
lot
going
on
in
the
governance
front,
but
yeah.
B
I
think
it's
interesting
like
there
were
some
really
cool
ideas
around
bix,
I
think
of
it
as
like,
a
d5
dashboard,
that's
privacy
centric
like
it
integrates,
and
that
was
kind
of
the
idea.
I
understood
it.
I
think
it
could
go
in
a
lot
of
directions
and
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
work
that
zet's
doing
now
around
tying
the
brands
together.
I
think
this
is
actually
a
great
opportunity
over
the
next.
B
You
know
for
us
to
circle
up
as
a
community
and
start
thinking
more
strategically
with
the
products,
and
you
know
I
think
one
of
the
questions
we
should
answer
is:
what
is
the
plan
with
mix
because
yeah
it
is
sitting
there
on
the
landing
page?
It
was,
you
know
something
that
was
designed
even
before
the
very
first
products
were
launched.
So
I
mean
it's
been
an
idea
that
just
hasn't
been
called
that
hasn't
like.
A
Yeah,
so
seeing
tornado
cash
actually
being
used
again
is
a
is
another
huge
signal
that
a
lot
of
like
there's
a
huge
potential
in
terms
of
like
providing
privacy
services
in
combination
with
divine
and
mixes
mix,
was
like
the
dark
version
of
zapper
or
like
xerion,
but
at
least
for
me,
who
kind
of
was
the
creator
of
it?
B
E
E
But
maybe
allow,
if
I
don't
know
for
to
hold
some
things
on
like
via
powerpoint,
I
mean.
B
J
B
By
the
same
protocol
labs,
however,
you
know
ipfs.
J
B
Persistent
storage
right
so
dxi
is
essentially
relying
on
individuals
to
pin
ipfs
and
they're,
not
really
incentivized.
To
do
so.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
like
pinata.cloud
there's
some
services
that
out
there
that
are
pinning
it.
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
if
anybody
I
haven't
heard
anybody
really
talk
about
filecoin
in
the
context.
I
don't
know
if,
but.
A
I
thought
five
coin.
The
coin
would
eliminate
the
need
of
friendly
people
doing
pinning,
like
the
the
main
selling
point.
I
believe
this
is
depending
and
that,
like
the
data,
will
be
online.
B
Right,
that's
the
point,
but
it
has
to
be.
You
have
to
pay
for
it
with
pile
filecoin
right
so
I
mean
I
think
it's.
K
B
Good
question:
basically,
it's
like
what
is
dxl
going
to
do
if
filecoin,
when
it's.
A
B
G
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
everyone's
building
a
bridge
to
ethereum,
so
it
can't
really
function
as
a
blockchain.
I
think
anymore.
Without
that
I
will
say.
G
I
think
it
is
also
like
a
demonstration
or
or
kind
of
confirmation
of
a
lot
of
the
things
that
dx
dow
has
been
doing
already
and
I
think
not
just
the
file
coin,
but
you
go
back
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I
think
hayden
was
tweeting
about
when
his
chrome
and
meta
chrome
and
safari
going
to
support
ens
domains,
and
you
know
obviously
that's
something
that
dxo
has
already
kind
of
been
pioneering.
G
Other
conversations
about
ipfs,
so
I
think
this
is
something
that
almost
the
market
is
kind
of
coming
around
to
a
lot
of
the
things
that
dxdow
has
already
been
been
doing.
So
I
think
we
should
figure
out
how
to
take
more
advantage
of
it,
but
I
think
we're
we
are
early
to
it
still.
A
They're
I
mean
the
future
is
right.
The
graph,
hopefully,
is
going
like
it's
going
to
release
their
mainnet,
which
will
make
sure
that
our
products
can
actually
like
provide
a
decent
user
experience
with
the
geek
store,
actually
paying
hosters
for
our
subgraphs.
So
that's
like
super
interesting
and
then
the
ipfs
stuff,
of
course,
is
also
something
we
need
to
observe
like.
A
If
the
d
star
can
actually
connect
to
the
fight
coin
network
and
do
like
payments
for
hosting
that
would
be
totally
crazy
like
I
would
love
to
see
that,
but
it
takes,
it
will
take
a
long
time.
B
Yeah,
it's
a
reminder
that,
even
though
you
know
we're
trying,
I
think
as
hard
as
we
can
to
be
decentralized,
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
centralized
choke
points
in
the
system
still
that
are
hopefully
going
to
be
worked
out.
You
know
a
lot
of
great
teams
and
smart
people
are
working
on
things.
I
think
dx
now
is
trying
to
be
as
involved
as
possible.
With
these
types
of
efforts
too,
I
think
radical
with
the
decentralized
github
is
a
great
great
example
of
this.
B
B
B
M
Yeah
thanks
guys
sorry,
we
held
our
first
loop
ring
community
call
earlier.
I
was
hoping
it'd
be
done
by
11,
so
I
could
join
here,
but
it
ran
long
clearly.
I
have
no
experience
running
these
calls.
So
nothing
really
to
report.
We've
been
just
super
heads
down
on
3.6.
I
actually
meant
to
post
an
article
in
the
key
base
yesterday.
That
explains
a
bit
more
about
how
am
ms
are
implemented
on
the
zk
roll
up,
because
a
lot
of
people
were
asking
about
that
a
week
or
so
ago.
M
Basically,
our
first
implementation
is
the
balancer
curve.
Anyways
I'll
share
that
article
for
anybody,
that's
interested
in
our
community
call,
though
we
did
get
one
or
two
questions
about
rails.
So
that's
cool
that
people
were
aware
of
that.
One
of
the
questions
asked
who
the
target
audience
was,
who
the
target
user
was,
and
you
know
like
anybody
that
likes
free
transfers.
So
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
could
tighten
that
up.
User
is
yeah,
I
mean
practically.
M
It's
also
the
only
loopering
like
gateway,
that's
mobile
friendly,
so
whoever
wants
to
use
trans
like
rails
is
the
only
blueprint.I
o
is
not
mobile.
Is
not
available
on
mobile,
so
it's
the
mobile
gateway
and
yeah
all
the
free
transfers.
It
was
cool,
but
but
nothing
else
to
to
add
right
now.
M
B
M
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
gusto,
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
the
you
know
any
better
off
to
answer
than
yeah
than
anybody
else,
your
view
and
everybody
else,
probably
just
as
much
from
the
loopering
point
of
view.
We're
really
pleased
with,
of
course,
like
vitalik's,
roll-up,
centric
vision.
I
think
it
just
makes
sense.
You
don't
really
lose
anything.
You
still
have
the
ability
to
go
to
computation
in
charts,
but
as
far
as
like
what
what
what
the
da
like
so
we're.
M
Actually
we
basically
take
e2
for
granted
to
be
clear,
like
we
think
like
as
a
layer.
Two
solution,
we're
like
okay,
they're
gonna,
do
their
thing.
It's
awesome
now
with
the
the
new
proposal.
It's
like
even
more
awesome,
because
these
people
actually
care
for
like
pushing
forth
ecosystem
event
like
adoption
of
it
like
great
metallic
asking
for
people
to
put
it
into
their
wallets
and
stuff
is
very
helpful,
but
we
basically
take
it
for
granted.
M
We
don't
like
design
around
eth2,
but
yeah,
even
for
us
like
just
the
shards,
will,
will
be
much
better
for
data
availability.
So
we
get
that
scaling
boost
much
before
phase
two
and
what
the
dx
dow
could
do.
I
guess
yeah
I
mean
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know
if
I'll
prescribe
anything
here,
but
for
sure
like
staking,
we,
like
that's
gonna,
be
a
huge
industry
staking
like
eth2,
like
validator
delegation
is
gonna,
be
huge.
M
Dx
dao
might
actually
be
like
one
of
the
most
suited
groups
to
tackle
that
I
I
know
there's
a
few
teams
doing
it,
but
like
yeah,
I
could
actually
see
that
being.
Maybe
the
leading
thing
that
you
know
that
the
dx
does
it's
a
perfect
fit
kind
of.
If,
if
we
could
figure
out
how
to
how
to
run
it
yeah,
I
don't
know
what
are
you
thinking
or
anybody
else.
F
Yeah,
I
think
that
we
will.
We
need
to
find
a
good
validator
to
send
our
precious.
If
a
mistake
right,
because
this
is
the
thing
of
of
the
exhaust-
it's
not
a
single
ether
account.
He
said
I
mean
it's
all
owned
by
a
smart
contract,
so
we
will
need
to
find
a
smart
contract
staking
solution
where
I
think
I
thought
that
someone
was
already
working
on
it
and
don't
remember
the
name
rocket
pool.
Can
it
be
something
like
that
right
or
something
like
that?
F
But
yeah
right,
that's
the
only
thing
that
will
help
us,
because
all
eth
she
was
taking
is
designed
around
ethereum
single
accounts
right
right.
F
But
yeah
we
want
to
stay.
I
think
I
think
we're
going
to
stake.
That
is
something
that
we
should
start
talking
on.
The
I
think
before
the
end
of
the
year
on
on
the
on
the
organization
or
how
much
ether
are
we
going
to
take,
because
this
is
something
that
this
is
protocol
we
are.
This
is
a
protocol
level,
so
we
are
ensure
that
you
are
going
to
get
something
in
exchange.
It's
not
some
d5
protocol,
where
it's
always
I
mean
this.