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It's
already
going
to
the
YouTube
stream,
so
hang.
B
B
To
YouTube
I
I
set
it
up
as
public,
so
people
got
notified
and
all
that
so
you're
all.
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C
Yeah
she's
not
with
me,
but
that
is
Russian
three
against
he's
nice
English.
A
A
B
B
Let's
give
people
a
few
minutes
to
get
in
and
then
I
will
give
you
a
little
background
and
then
I
will
invite
you
to
give
us
some
background
on
what
you've
been
doing.
B
I
I
can
tell
you
that
we've,
since
the
start
of
the
Ukraine
crisis
we've
been
meeting
every
month
or
so
trying
to
see
if
we
could
connect
the
dots
and
the
dots
at
the
far
end
figuring
out
who
are
Partners
on
the
ground
would
be
has
been
a
challenge.
We
just
haven't
cracked
that
case,
and
so
we
really
haven't
done
done
anything
except
keep
on
checking
to
see
if
we
can
figure
it
out.
I'm
I'll
be
asking
you
about
that.
Hello,
Julie,
hello,.
A
And
that'll
help
me
know
how
much,
how
much
to
to
bore
you
with
stuff
that
you
already
know
about.
C
Yeah,
so
from
my
impression
of
enable
you
guys
three
print
press
thought
prosthetic,
hands
and
I'm,
not
sure
any
other
prospects.
You
guys
produce
and
I.
Think
I
watched
the
video
where
I
used
cables
for
the
hands
and
when
they
bend
their
hand,
that's
how
it
moves
and
you
guys
work
sort
of
like
we
do.
We
get
crowdsource
your
three
prints
where
you
just
build
a
community
of
people
from
just
everywhere
and
we're
together
to
three
print
supplies.
C
B
Great,
that's
great
and
adapt
3D
is
a
do.
B
Oh,
you
are,
and
you
have
some
affiliation
with
Naomi
London
and
humanitarian
makers.
Yes,.
B
Okay,
I
see
that
people
are
still
filing
in
and
it's
only
1203.,
so
I'm
going
to
continue
to
just
try
to
shut
down
unnecessary
technology
on
my
computer.
B
Hello
Yuri
nice
to
meet
you
we're
yeah,
we're
we're
sort
of
giving
people
five
minutes
to
show
up.
But
since
you
and
I
haven't
met
before
I,
don't
think,
let's
say
hello.
D
Oh
I
also
invited
Anton
he's
here
in
Audio
Only
mode
yeah.
D
He
is
interested
in
in
manufacturing
and
or
3D
printing
prophetics,
and
this
is
the
reason
I
sent
him
a
link
to
today's
event.
So.
B
Well,
that's
great
and
Yuri
I,
don't
think.
We've
met
personally
before.
Okay,
let's
let
let
me
start
the
meeting
here.
We
are
it's
1204.,
okay,
so
hello,
everybody!
This
is
enables
monthly
chapter
leaders.
B
Meeting
Julie
and
I
are
both
enabled
chapter
leaders
she
from
Greece
and
Alaska
to
introduce
herself
in
a
few
minutes
and
I'm
here
in
Rochester,
New,
York
I'm,
also
a
co-founder
of
the
enabled
Network
or
movement
we've
been
around
for,
depending
on
how
you
count
about
10
years
now,
and
we
have
chapters
all
over
the
world
and
thousands
of
volunteers,
but
we
remain
a
fairly
Loosely,
organized
Network
and
in
some
ways,
I
think
it's
part
of
our
strength
in
some
ways,
I
think
it's
also
one
of
our
weaknesses
is
that
we
don't
have
well-defined
institutional
Partners
worldwide,
but
that
also
means-
and
as
we
all
saw
during
covid-
that
during
times
of
Crisis
we're
in
a
position
to
do
things
that
established
institutions
have
failed
to
do.
B
I
want
to
call
your
attention
to
hub.enable.org
I'll.
Put
that
in
the
chat,
which
is
our
meeting
place,
where
we
often
do
our
collaborative
work
and
we
have
spaces
for
within
the
Hub,
which
is
sort
of
a
tame,
a
Facebook
kind
of
an
environment
for
a
variety
of
purposes
and
I.
B
Don't
know
at
this
moment
if
we
have
a
Ukraine
space,
so
we
certainly
have
a
space
for
the
chapter
leaders
meetings,
and
that
includes
recordings
for
of
our
past
I'd
say
for
the
last
six
months
or
so
our
past
discussions
about
the
crisis
in
Ukraine
and
whether
there's
a
responsible
way
for
us
to
be
of
service
I
will
turn
back
to
the
whole
question
of
Ukraine
after
I
give
everyone
a
chance
just
to
introduce
themselves
and
say
hello
and
Julie
I,
wonder
if
you'd
be
willing
to
go
next
and
tell
us
about
yourself
and
enable
Greece.
A
A
Until
now
we
have
given
like
three
hands
and
we
are
preparing
two
more
and
we
currently
working
with
blind
people
and
we're
making
educational
material
for
them
or
tactile
Maps
or
tactile
board
games,
and
and
currently
we
are
trying
to
teach
3D
printing
to
kids
and
teachers
with
autism,
so
we're
trying
to
approach
people
with
disabilities
and
relate
them
to
3D,
printing
and
the
products
from
3D,
printing
and
the
procedure
of
innovating.
B
Great
and
for
David
and
Yuri
and
Anton
I'll
mention
that
well,
we
are
best
known
for
our
hands
enabled
we
do
have
and
have
long
expressed,
the
desire
to
go
beyond
merely
hands
and
what
Julia
is
talking
about
with
autism
and
blind
children
and
by
the
way
Rick
Williams
is
also
doing
some
work
on
tactile
tools
for
the
blind
is
very
much
within
our
our
unstated
mission.
D
Yeah
sure
thank
you.
John
I'm
used
to
be
a
co-producer
or
mini-maker
players.
Here
in
Ukraine
we
produced
15
megafores
in
five
cities
and
and
I'm
of
course,
aware
of
enable
orc.org.
But
my
sports
for
the
events
was
to
explain
a
community.
What
does
maker
means?
So
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
dig
deeper
into
enable
kind
project,
but
we
were
in
or
we
are
in
contact
with
organizations
who
helped
people's
people
to
people
with
disabilities,
and
they
also
took
part
in
our
latest
microflare.
B
D
B
If
you
want,
we
can
disconnect
that
it's
helpful
for
us
to
to
make
this
information
available
to
other
people.
Okay,.
D
John,
no
problem,
okay,
one
one
point:
we
expected
a
blackout
here,
so
I
could
be
log
off
so
yeah
it.
It
is
a
kind
of
planned
after
today's
surprises.
So,
okay
getting
back
now.
B
D
Sir,
we
we
stopped
producing
before
microfares
before
covet,
but
we
are
in
contact
with
all
the
organizations
and
I
was
invited
here
by
Victoria
Jacob
from
osms
community
and
also
my
point.
My
idea
is
as
a
most
connected
to
Makers
all
over
Ukraine
person.
I
want
to
get
some
shortcuts
and
invite
you
expertise
to
people
who
interested
and
ready
to
help
and
Anton
from
nipro
he's
one
of
the
this
people.
He
is
interested
in
topics
or
maybe
Anton
could
introduce
himself
also.
B
B
Okay,
so
Anton
says
that
he's
an
engineer
for
a
company
that
specializes
in
3D
printing,
and
so
so
here
we
are.
A
D
We
have
a
kind
of
strong
community
of
for
people
with
printers,
but
they
are.
They
have
a
lack
of
expertise
in
this
particular
area,
so
I
missed
previous
chapter
and
I
I
trying
to
get
jump
into
this
trend,
and
thank
you
for
for
this
opportunity.
Well,.
B
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
and
for
hanging
in
there.
I
know
it's
a
very
challenging
time.
B
I
would
like
to
think
that
we
can
be
helpful
and
I
have
the
impression
that
David
is
already
doing
some
work.
That
would
tie
to
you
so
David
and
Yuri.
Do
you
know
each
other
already.
B
Great
so
David,
it
sounds
like
you
have
already
worked
through
some
of
the
issues
and
some
of
the
challenge
channels.
So
I
want
to
give
the
floor
to
you
and
let
let
you
give
us
get
us
up
to
speed.
B
I
should
say
that
in
the
in
our
earlier
discussions
we
did
think
about
Prosthetics,
and
then
we
did
Think
About
Braces,
which
seemed
like
they
might
be
more
practical
and
we
considered
tourniquets
and
then
decided
that
that
was
until
we
had
real
on
the
ground
partners
that
that
was
as
likely
to
to
be
harmful
as
to
be
helpful.
B
So
you
know
we're
eager
to
help
and
we're
eager
not
to
make
a
situation
worse.
So
now
tell
us
what
you
think
we
need
to
know
and
let's
figure
out
how
we
can
work
together.
C
Okay,
so
I'm
David,
Mesa
from
Birmingham
Alabama
and
as
a
Ukrainian
I
knew
how
to
do
something
when
the
war
broke
out.
I
put
my
years
of
three
praying
experience
to
work
and
I
created
that
3D
we're
a
501c3
dedicated
to
crowdsourcing
three
print
supplies
for
Ukraine,
the
currently
three
print
medical
prices
of
a
couple.
Next
to
me.
So
this
is
a
wrist
brace
in
if
it's
on
like
that.
But
this
is
the
initial
form.
B
That's
great
so
tell
us
about
how
who's
printing
your
models,
and
presumably
you
need
more
of
those
prints.
Then
they
have
to
get
from
outside
Ukraine
into
Ukraine,
and
then
they
have
to
be
put
into
the
hands
of
people
who
know
how
to
use
them
in
the
field.
If
you
work
that
part
out.
C
Yeah,
so
right
now
what
we're
struggling
is
we
have
people
printing,
but
we're
not
meeting
demand.
Are
we
like
engaged
the
Birmingham
Community?
We
have
a
maker
space
here
around
Mount
makers
and
that's
helped
us
and
we've
I've
been
shipping
it
through
ukrainians.
I
know
in
Birmingham
who
came
immigrated
to
Birmingham
and
that's
how
we've
been
getting
supplies
there.
We've
been
shipping
it
to
a
surgeon
in
Ukraine,
so
he's
well
trained
to
use
these.
B
Tremendous
so
it
sounds
like
the
opportunity
for
Naval,
obviously
is
to
mobilize
our
Network
and
to
identify
a
few
locations.
I'm
going
to
guess
this
for
United
States
makers.
We
should
ship
them
to
some
location
in
Birmingham
so
that
we
can
piggyback
on
that
transport
and
I.
Wonder
if
there's
a
European
location
that
could
collect
European
prints.
C
A
B
Great,
that's
great,
so
Yuri,
that's
a
very
clear
opportunity
for
us
and
by
the
way
it's
one
we
haven't
had
before
David
I'd
love
to
know
a
little
bit
more,
perhaps
offline
about
the
surgeon
at
the
other
end
and
how
that
how
that
works,
but
our
immediate
opportunity
and
we'll
get
on
it
is
to
get
the
designs
from
you.
B
Any
advice
you
have
about
printing
and
shipping
and
I
will
do
what
I
can
to
really
turn
this
into
a
real
push
for
enable
I
think
in
principle
this
is
the
moment
we've
been
waiting
for,
and
there
should
be
a
lot
of
enabled
volunteers
who
are
eager
to
to
do
something
useful
so
that
that
should
be
group.
That
should
be
great
yeah.
You
never
know
how
these
things
are
going
to
go,
but
this
is
something
we
can.
We
can
push
for.
C
B
Well,
I'm
gonna
work
my
way
back
to
to
Yuri
but
Julie.
This
seems
like
a
no-brainer
for
us.
Does
it
sound
right
for
you
and
and
your
group
that,
in
addition
to
your
other
activities,
you
might
be
able
to
start
printing
these?
These
braces
yeah.
A
For
sure
we
have
already
done
one
keypad
for
a
small
style.
So
yes
for
us!
Yes,
it
would
be
a
great
opportunity
to
help
and
maybe
be
the
the
if
you
want
the
European
spot,
to
collect
everything,
fantastic.
A
B
Okay
and
so
urine,
how
does
this
relate
to
what
you
are
seeking
and
what
you
might
be
able
to
offer.
D
D
They
were
published
in
the
beginning
of
the
war,
and
we
also
interested
in
expertise
from
from
your
community,
so
I
think
from
logistic
point
of
view.
It
will
be
better
to
print
the
most
here
in
Ukraine
until
we
have
filament,
because
we
have
contacts
in
Poland
in
Lithuania.
D
We
could
we
could
get
from
from
that
countries,
but
it
will
be
better
I
think
to
print
here
as
much
as
we
could
possibly
produce
and
also
will
be
better
to
deliver
and
teach
people
who
will
work
with
this
products
with
a
higher
driver
or
with
these
techniques.
I
I
think
they
are
not
so
complicated,
correct,
David
that.
A
B
Rick,
you
should
put
yourself
I'll,
put
you
on
mute,
but
unmute
yourself.
As
soon
as
you're,
you
mean
to
be
making
noise
and
I
want
to
introduce
you
to
Julie
as
well
so
Yuri.
B
The
fact
that
you
have
capacity
in
Ukraine
is
obviously
a
terrific
thing,
but
it
sounds
like
David's
designs
would
be
useful
to
you.
So
let's
make
that
connection.
Okay.
So
for
that
matter
Yuri.
Can
we
find
how
to
reach
you
through
makerhub.org
by.
A
B
A
D
B
All
right
and
I
think
I
will
create
a
space
within
the
enable
hub
and
send
it
to
all
of
you.
Julie
I'm,
not
positive,
I,
have
your
email,
so
if
you
put
it
in
the
chat
that
would
be
helpful,
I
will
create
a
space
for
these
designs
to
be
visible
to
all
of
our
Hub
members,
assuming
that
and
for
David
to
share
the
designs
with
us
Yuri.
What
kind
of
expertise
are
you
looking
for.
D
These
toughest
one
and
that
need
a
lot
of
attention
and
is
about
the
Prosthetics
themselves.
So
what
kind
of
Prosthetics
and
or
temporary
Prosthetics?
And
what
is
the
best
way
to
do
where
we
have
to
start
from
to
make
all
or
all
things
correct,
I
understand,
because
there
will
be
no
second
chance
to
make
Prosthetics
to
Bonded
person
and
right.
B
So,
let's,
let's
talk
about
that
a
little
bit,
so
you
have
no
experience
with
prosthetics.
B
B
Prosthetics
until
the
wound
is
well
healed,
if
you
begin
putting
Prosthetics
in
place
before
that,
you're
gonna
slow,
the
healing
and
you
can
also
produce
lasting
damage
to
the
nerves,
and
so
the
first
thing
is
to
stabilize
the
limb
and
to
ensure
that
it
gets
the
right
treatment
and
six
months
to
a
year
after
the
injury.
That's
when
you
start
talking
about
Prosthetics.
Now
the
war's
been
going
on
for
a
while,
and
so
it
could
be
that.
B
D
B
That
we
begin
working
together
on
the
challenge
of
braces
and
that
we
begin
building
up
the
network
of
collaboration
and
begin
sharing
expertise
on
that
relatively
low
risk,
high
impact
Endeavor,
and
when
you
become
aware
of
a
and
amputee
who
has
had
medical
attention
or
whose
limb
seems
to
have
stabilized,
then
we
can
work
on
the
prosthetic
case
on
a
one-to-one
basis.
But
you
should
understand
that
Prosthetics
rarely
work
well
on
the
first
fitting
it's
a
gradual
iterated
iterative,
repeated
process
and
it
works
best,
especially
with
recent
amputations.
B
D
Yeah
I've
seen
such
guys
at
two
websites,
the
first
one
as
I
told
before
it
was
a
prusa
printables
or
something
like
this,
or
in
blog,
even
in
prusa
blog
and
second
one
was
on
some
of
Poland's
website
and
again
I
know
some
makers
who
print
kind
of
in
Odessa
and
maybe
in
the
cities
here
in
Ukraine,
and
they
are
in
touch
with
with
hospitals.
So
yeah.
A
B
C
Am
and
our
designs
are
nearly
identical.
The
previous
designs
do
work
and
I'm
a
little
confused.
How
they're
difficult
to
print.
Would
you
Yuri
what
problems
are
you
running
into
with
those
designs,
because
we
found
them
to
be
pretty
easy
to
work
with.
D
My
my
English,
but
not
so
well
so
could
you
please
yeah.
D
Well,
what
kind
of
issues
I'm
I'm
not
aware,
because
I'm
not
in
everyday
touch
with
the
makers
but
as
as
I
know,
I'm.
A
D
Time
when
someone
want
to
print
or
produce
something
for
for
hospitals,
I'm
asking
about
feedbacks
every
time
and
and
a
lot
of
time,
I
just
ask
people
to
stop
and
not
not
print
in
tourniquettes,
and
things
like
this
and
from
this
person
from
Odessa
I
I
had
the
feedback
that
that
hospitals,
he
in
touch
with
have
a
kind
of
he
have
good
feedback.
So
I
I
didn't
hear
from
him
about
some
issues
with
that
model.
So.
B
Let's
just
talk
about
next
steps:
I
think
this
is
this
is
no
longer
complicated
David.
Do
you
want
to
just
walk
us
through
your
website
right
now,
so
that
we
can
see
where
the
models
are
tell
us
whatever?
You
want
to
tell
us
about
how
to
print
them,
and
that
would
be
step.
One.
A
C
Okay,
so
this
is
our
website:
there's
an
option,
donate
money,
but
right
now
we're
looking
for
people
to
volunteer.
So
you
just
click
donate
print
time,
and
you
just
send
this
link
to
anybody
who
you
think's
interested
in
3D,
printing
with
us
and
once
they
fill
this
out,
we'll
just
contact
them.
So
you
can
also
just
connect
them
to
me.
One-On-One
and
I'll.
Just
do
the
same
thing
as
formal
do
and
you
can
click
right
here
for
download
print
files
and
just
send
you
to
a
Dropbox
where
you
can
find
the
print
files.
C
B
Yeah,
so
great,
and
do
you
have
priorities
for
quotas
for
some
way
of
directing
people
towards
what's
most
needed.
C
I've
been
directing
people
towards
these
two
just
because
they
have
similar
impact,
but
the
print
time
is
significantly
lower.
It's
like
20
or
30
minutes,
depending
on
how
you're,
printing
it
maybe
40-
and
these
are
a
couple
hours
and
typically
I
push
people
to
fill
up
their
bed
on
the
way
so
like
to
maximize
output.
B
is
really
most
people
with
the
issue
without
keeping
from
printing
more
it's
just
starting
and
stopping
the
printer
so
having
the
most
possible
on
the
build
plate
is
our
priority.
B
Cool,
so
that's
interesting,
so
this
build
plate
is
actually
an
assortment
of
devices
and
can
they
download
the
complete,
build
plate.
C
So
I
already
pronounced
a
different
size
build
plates,
so
they
should
go
with
individual
parts.
Parts
and
I'll
provide
examples.
Okay
and
typically,
when
they
reach
out
I
guide
them
one
one
through
the
process
of
play,
how
to
arrange
it
to
have
a
maximum
output.
B
Okay,
then,
and
and
you've
said
that
right
now,
you're
not
meeting
demand.
How
much
demand
do
you
think
there
is
or
if
do
we
need
hundreds
do
we
need
thousands?
Do
we
need
tens
of
thousands.
C
So
we
definitely
need
thousands
I'm,
not
sure,
if
we'll
need
tens
of
thousands,
but
we're
definitely
so
far
under
demand.
That
I've
been
really
even
thought
about
the
number
we
need
to
hit.
Okay.
B
So
the
website
and
your
assistance
is
readily
available
in
order
to
encourage
people
to
participate
Rick
if
you're
still
with
us,
and
even
if
you're,
not
I'm,
going
to
suggest
that
we
we
come
up
with
a
badge
that
will
be
appropriate
for
this
kind
of
an
activity
that
will
give
us
an
ability
to
track
how
many
enabled
people
are
working
with
you,
even
if
they
go
straight
to
you,
as
you
have
offered
to
do.
B
If
we
have
the
problem
that
you
get
more
people,
then
you're
able
to
support
and
provide
guidance
to
we
can
talk
about
finding
volunteers
were
then
able
to
to
help
with
that.
But
the
truth
is,
do
you
have
print
settings
to
recommend?
I
was
going
to
say.
The
truth
is
this
is
fairly.
These
are
relatively
simple
prints,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
handled
and
people
are
going
to
need.
C
Yeah,
so
our
base
recommendations
give
your
nozzle,
0.8
or
1.2,
because
aesthetic
quality
doesn't
matter
as
much
and
we're
already
heating
these
up
and
whipping
them
so
in
a
bigger
nozzle
actually
has
greater
layer
adhesion,
but
that's
the
base
recommendation
after
that.
Some
people
come
asking:
how
can
we
make
a
print
faster
and
I
guide
them
through
steps
with
that?
A
B
Appreciate
it,
if
you
would
I
think
that
there
are
it's
very
reassuring
for
people
to,
for
example,
say
we
recommend,
use
pla,
this
nozzle
size,
Etc
and
then
they
you
know
at
that
point
we
have
many
volunteers
who
actually
will
know
what
to
do
so.
Do
you
want
to
share
with
us?
So
if
they
just
say,
hey
I
can
do
this
and
they
want
to
send
you
prints.
C
So
I
haven't
put
the
address
in
the
website
for
like
privacy
reasons,
but
when
talking
to
them,
I
just
tell
them
to
ship
it
to
my
house
and
then
I
handle
it
and
bring
it
to
the
people
who
ship
it
to
Ukraine.
That's
great.
B
Okay,
that's
fine,
that's
fine,
and
are
you
willing
to
get
emails
from
queries
as
well
as
the
form?
Okay.
B
So
you
know
urine
you
mentioned
power,
outages
and,
of
course,
that's
a
challenge,
but
some
of
it
it
could
well
be
that
it
makes
sense
for
your
team
if
they
are
worried
about
power
outages
to
work
on
not
full
beds
and
smaller
parts,
because
if
it's
a
10
minute
print
and
you
lose
and
things
shut
down,
you've
only
lost
lost,
10
minutes,
and
indeed
those
finger
braces
seem
like
they
might
actually
be
20
minute
prints
is
that
right,
David.
B
Okay
and
what
about
tracking
either
of
the
numbers
of
devices
from
our
various
volunteers
or
where
they
go
and
any
feedback
from
the
field
and
so
on?
What
what
can
you
tell
us
about
about
that?
Yeah.
C
C
Yeah,
so
we
just
started
shipping
them
to
him,
but
he's
going
to
send
like
pictures
with
soldiers
wearing
them
and
like
he's,
given
he
he's
offered
feedback
and
he's
very
willing
to
help
out
the
cause.
B
I
think
that
would
be
really
terrific
to
motivate
people
and
to
help
them
know
that
their
devices
are
are
getting
put
to
use,
to
the
extent
that
that's
that
can
become
sort
of
a
routine
part
of
the
process.
I
suspect
that
will
motivate
a
lot
of
people
and
quite
possibly
provide
an
opportunity
for
publicity
which
would
lead
to
donations,
which
would
help
the
cause
further
Yuri
I
wanted
to
ask.
You
all
are
okay
for
supplies.
You
have
filaments
and
you
have
printers.
D
Ed
we
have
supplies
of
basic
common
materials,
our
local
manufacturers.
One
of
them
was
captured
by
Russians
in
the
beginning
of
the
war
in
the
kharkif
region,
but
even
he
find
the
ways
to
kind
of
restore
heat,
white,
labeling,
Poland,
filament
and
importing
it
into
the
into
the
country,
and
we
also
yeah.
We
also
have
two
or
three
maybe
manufacturers,
and
we
have
basic
pla,
ABS,
ped,
G
and
and
even
nylon
and
TPU.
So,
okay,
we
are
good
yeah,
that's
great
yeah.
C
B
Right
now,
in
terms
of
expertise,
do
you
have
a
video
of
the
thermoforming
process.
C
I
do,
although,
if
we're
gonna
like
release
it
publicly,
I
think
we
should
I
should
refilm
a
better
quality
one.
B
And
and
indeed
it's
not
clear
that
Yuri's
people
will
be
well,
you
don't
know,
I
think
it
is
quite
possible
that
for
Yuri's
Community
they
may
also
do
some
of
the
thermoforming,
in
which
case
a
video
of
that
sort
would
be
helpful.
It's
it's
a
remarkably
simple
and
forgiving
process
the
thermoforming,
but
the
video
can
encourage
people
to
see
and
believe
that
so
I
I
would
recommend
that
and.
B
D
David,
could
you
please
share
your
your
expertise
with
the
resume
printing
I
I
I
found
the
model
for
resin
print
and
at
your
website,
or
at
your
Dropbox.
C
Yeah
so
for
resin
printing,
we
really
haven't
figured
out
how
we're
still
working
in
that,
because
we
have
people
with
resin
printers
here,
although
resin
does
not
have
the
same
properties
as
pla,
so
it
can
be
thermoformed
and
we're
not.
We've
committed
to
not
printing
lethal
supplies,
which
limits
us
and
I
actually
went
to
humanitarian
makers.
Looking
for
something
we
could
resin
print,
although
nothing's
come
up
at
the
moment,
have
you
found
anything
that
could
be
resin
prune.
D
Oh,
we
also
have
Chinese,
sprinters
and
I
think
it
about
15
15
of
our
community.
Have
this
this
abilities
to
print
at
resin,
but
I
I
was
asking
about
the
exact
purpose.
Is
it
maybe
in
some
cases
it
will
be
better
to
to
produce
to
grow
in
resin
instead
of
Poa
I.
B
I
I
doubt
that
Yuri
I'll
be
interested
in
what
David
thinks.
But
you
know
pla
is
a
very
easy
to
work
with
and
easy
to
thermoform
material
and
it's
a
it's.
A
safer
material
I
think
the
the
the
resins
have
chemical
contents
that
are
hard
to
predict
and
that
could
interact
with
an
open
wound,
so
I
think
focus
on
pla
for
the
medical
braces
and
the
resin
could
turn
out
to
be
a
really
good
opportunity
when
we
get
to
the
prosthetics.
C
B
Okay,
I
actually
think
we
know
what
to
what
we
want
to
do.
Next,
I
will
spread.
The
word
see
if
we
can't
create
some
ways
of
motivating
and
letting
people
know
there
is
one
topic
I
wanted
to
to
raise.
David
you
mentioned
that
you're
committed
to
humanitarian
purposes
and
not
interested
in
working
on
on
Weaponry
did
I
hear
you
correctly.
There.
C
Oh
there's
just
more
designs
like
there
was
a
company
that
I
was
working
with
to
find
non-lethalist
Prince
and
we're
struggling
to
find
print
because
most
like
not
beyond
the
braces,
because
because
most
of
what
they
produce
is
lethal,
like
have
you
seen
the
videos
of
where
a
drone
dropped,
a
bond
bomb
with
three
print
fins
and
went
through
sunroof.
It's
like
stuff,
like
that.
It's
like
yeah,
interesting.
B
Yeah,
okay!
Well,
we're
we're
talking
to
the
right
people
here,
because,
frankly,
I
the
news
from
Ukraine
recently
I'm
happy
to
say,
has
pointed
out
that
the
ukrainians
are
officially
and
I
truly
hope.
It's
true
making
a
point
of
being
of
respecting
the
human
rights
of
Russian
soldiers
who
who
surrender
and
to
find
a
way
out
of
this
messy
conflict.
I,
would
like
to
think
that
some
of
the
braces
we're
providing
might
end
up
on
the
hands
of
Russian
prisoners
of
war
or
Russian
immigrants.
B
C
Yeah,
although
we're
more
like
pledged
against
just
producing
anything
that
result
in
like
somebody
dying
or
lethal
supplies,
although
we
are
looking
for
like
to
make
peace
like
bring
peace
to
the
region
in
that
as
well,.
C
Yeah
so
my
like
statement
previously
was
that
we're
committed
to
like
printing
non-lethal
supplies
or
supplies
that
can't
be
used
to
kill
somebody
or
like
gun,
modifications
or
anything
like
that
sure
we
want
only
print
non-mlethal
supplies
and
that's
where
a
bit
like
just
great
assignment
is
well.
That's.
B
Great
that's
great
yeah,
adapt
3D
is
not
already
an
enabled
chapter.
Is
it
it
is
not.
C
B
B
Welcome
we
have
a
number
of
chapters
that
do
have
their
own
501c3s,
but
that's
it's
a
side,
issue
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
particularly
necessary,
except
that
we
can
put
you
on
our
map
and
that
might
help
other
people
find
you
that
way
as
well.
You
should
visit
hub.ehyphen
nabl.org,
you
can
look
at
math.enable.org
and
let
me
know,
as
you
think,
of
ways
in
which
we
can
amplify
the
important
work
that
you're.
C
B
C
At
the
end
of
the
conflict
or
when
our
needs
just
not
needed
in
Ukraine
I,
definitely
see
us
like
pushing
all
our
three
printer
like
well,
three
prank
volunteers,
to
another
organization
that
works
to
a
cause
that
isn't
that
continues
beyond
the
war.
Let's.
B
Look
forward
to
that
too:
okay,
I
am
I,
I,
don't
have
anything
else.
I
want
to
cover
I,
think
David,
what
you've,
what
you've
done
and
Yuri
what
you
are
able
to
do
within
Ukraine
has
broken
The
Log
Jam
that
we
have
so
I'm
going
to
take
some
time
and
try
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
get
this
going
and
I
won't
take
a
lot
of
time.
I'll
try
to
I'll
try
to
get
moving.
It
sounds
like
everything
we
need
is
on
your
website.
B
So
it's
going
to
be
up
to
us,
but
I'm
going
to
try
to
recruit
some
collaborators
who
can
who
can
help
organize
our
community
and
for
that
matter
David.
You
might
be
a
good
person
to
tap
into
do
you
have
discretionary
time
for
this
if
we
yeah
I
do
okay,
that's
great!
That's
great!
So
let
me
just
open
and
see
if
there
are
other
questions
or
issues
to
be
discussed.
Yuri
yeah.
D
B
D
We
have
very
different
models,
maybe
it
not.
It
goes
about
profitable
business.
Maybe
it
goes
about
crowdfunding,
but
at
the
at
the
manufacturing
or
equipment
of
a
company
who
could
produce
a
kind
of
more
sophisticated
products
and
have
people
yeah
qualified
people
who
get
salary
but
could
produce
for.
D
Finding
reasons,
for
example,
we
need
these
expertise
and
right.
B
B
In
many
parts
of
the
world
we
have
focused
on
prosthetics
for
children,
that's
because
children
don't
have
a
way
of
getting
Prosthetics,
often
and
because
for
kids
of
a
certain
age,
the
value
of
the
prosthetic
is
not
so
much
in
what
they
can
do,
but
in
the
way
they
feel
about
it,
because
now
they're
a
superhero
right
for
adults,
functionality
and
cosmetics
right,
so
something
that
helps
them
do
things
that
they
couldn't
otherwise
do
and
something
that
makes
their
disability
less
attention
getting
because
it
looks
more
like
a
hand,
is
more
important.
B
B
It's
called
the
kinetic
hand
and
it's
got
nice
smooth
Contours,
and
it
has
joints
that
are
made
from
flexible
filament,
which
is
usually
a
challenge
for
many
of
our
volunteers,
but
it's
quite
likely
that
you
can
find
people
for
whom
that's
a
nice
opportunity
to
use
some
of
their
more
sophisticated
equipment.
So
I
would
suggest
that
you
start
by
looking.
At
the
kinetic
hand,
you
can
find
it
on
the
Hub.
In
fact,
when
I
stop
yakking
I
will
I'll
find
the
lid,
but
you
should
look
at
our
device.
B
Catalog
and
you'll
see
that
there
are
hands
and
arms
available
based
on
the
kinetic
hand,
I
think
you
or
the
company
you're
talking
about
should
start
by
trying
to
make
one
of
those
and
you'll
get
a
feel
for
the
operation,
a
sense
of
the
limitations,
how
difficult
it
is,
and
that's
the
technical
part.
The
Big
Challenge,
as
in
all
human
Affairs,
has
to
do
with
humans.
B
B
Them
I,
don't
know
how
many.
B
What
the
prosthetists
in
Ukraine
I
don't
frankly
know
whether
they're
doing
Prosthetics
or
whether
they're
being
pressed
into
service
at
field
surgeons,
but
you're
gonna
have
to
find
prosthetists
who
can
work
with
you
and
if
you
do
those
two
things
you
create
some
nice
looking
mechanical
enabled
devices
and
you
find
some
prosthetists
who
are
working
with
amputees
who
they
think
would
be
ready
for
this.
B
Then
you
can
begin
on
the
next
steps.
So
I
think
you
have
two
good
next
steps.
One
is
to
make
some
devices
and
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
and
the
other
is
to
use
those
devices
to
begin
a
conversation
with
prosthetists
and
occupational
therapists
and
amputees
who
may
be
able
to
then
say:
okay,
this
is
great.
How
do
we
take
this
forward?
D
B
D
These
before
you're
slowing
down
thanks
a
lot
John.
Are
we
talking
about
Matt,
bottle
model
of
kinetic
hand,
correct?
That's.
D
And
if
we
we,
if
we
talk
about
prosthetists
Anton,
is
from
he's
from
nepro,
City
and
hospitals
of
Newport
City
may
be
biggest
amount
of
surgery,
War
related
surgery,
because
they
they
are
nearest
city
to
the
front
line
from
2014..
Yes,
they
have
just
just
a
lot
of
expertise
and
the
local
of
knowledge
and,
of
course,
about
Prosthetics.
So
this
is
the
reason
they
asking
for
advice
and
trying
to
to
help
and
be
involved
in
this
Pro
process
of.
B
Well,
that's
great
so
see
if
you
can
get
feedback
on
the
device
in
question.
I
get
some
feedback
about
whether
they
think
there
would
like
to
begin
testing
these
devices
with
their
patients,
and
we
can
take
it.
Forward
Rick
I
see
that
you've
settled
down
and
you're
with
us.
B
Rick
I
believe
has
made
a
number
of
kinetic
hands
and
is
a
very
good
resource
for
technical
questions.
You
may
have
about
how
to
do
this
kind
of
thing,
and
so.
B
We
can
we
will
be
our
operators
are
waiting
for
your
call,
but
I
do
think
that
making
a
device
and
then
helping
Anton
show
it
to
the
process.
There
is
a
very
good
way
to
try
to
begin
the
the
connections.
You'll
notice
that
it's
the
social
connections
that
have
been
the
challenge
for
us
and
I
think
that
for
the
medical
braces,
we
now
have
a
path
forward
for
the
Prosthetics
I've
tried
to
outline
how
you
can
help
us
find
the
PATH
forward
makes
sense,
yeah,
okay,
okay,.
A
B
B
Okay,
I,
you
have
my
email
I
believe.
So
let
me
just
make
sure
that
on
this
chat,
dear
jug
and
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
your
contact,
information,
anthem
and
I'm.
Putting
my.
A
B
Okay
and
Rick
before
you
were
on
board
I
suggested
that
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
create
a
badge.
Maybe
it's
not
in
Ukrainian
colors.
Maybe
it
is
I,
don't
know.
B
B
A
B
Is
a
great
step
towards
a
future
in
which
we're
all
working
together
so
branding
that
that
badge
and
finding
a
way
of
using
that
to
keep
track
of
the
all
the
enabled
people
who
are
hopefully
going
to
get
recruited
to
start
making
braces
and
shipping
them
to
to
Birmingham
Alabama
and
perhaps
to
Julian
Greece
is
what
you
and
I
will
talk
about
again
and
probably
we
want
to
find
another
enabled
person
who
can
really
keep
this
top
of
mind.
B
I'm,
not
sure
who
that
might
be
yet,
but
I'll
also
talk
to
Adam
Jennings
who's.
Afghanistan
initiative
might
tie
into
your
also
Julie.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
Ed
before
we
before.
A
Again,
I
have
to
say
that,
yes,
we
want
to
be
this
point
for
sending
all
these
braces
back
to
Ukraine
and
everything
else.
I
will
join
soon
your
webpage
David
and
we
will
take
it
from
there
and,
of
course,
I'm
waiting
for
the
further
instructions
for
Mr
Scott.
A
It
further
instructions
for
what
for
the
steps
and
I
will
want
to
take
toward
this
matter.
B
Okay,
very
good
Julie,
and
for
that
matter,
David
and
Yuri.
One
of
the
challenges
with
enable
is
that
we
have
people
doing
all
sorts
of
good
things
around
the
world
and
we
don't
know
about
it.
So
I
just
want
to
urge
you
to
keep
us
posted
by
email
if
it's
sensitive
or
through
the
space
that
I
will
will
be
setting
up
so
that
we
can
be
aware
so
that
we
can
see
new
opportunities.
So
we
can
spread
the
word
and
hopefully
get
more
people
involved.
This
is
a
big
deal.
B
We've
we've
been
circling
the
airport
for
for
months
now,
I
think
we
actually
have
a
path
forward,
so
we'll
be
following
up.
Thank
you
all
I'm
gonna
capture,
the
chat
before
the
call
ends.
Thank.