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From YouTube: Device Pilots Meeting - August 2021
Description
Monthly meetings that are open for new e-NABLE community members who have limb differences and have interest in piloting a device. Visit our community space for those who pilot open source prosthetic devices here:
https://hub.e-nable.org/s/panel-of-pilots/
We explore how different devices work to perform daily needs, improvements to designs, inspiration, and ways members are contributing their insights to community efforts.
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B
Yeah,
sorry
for
the
the
doubling
yeah.
No
it's
true
it's
it's
strange
to
think
about
all
the
documentation
we'll
have
from
this
time,
but
no
these
days,
you
know
juggling
a
couple
different
things:
there's
a
big
mask
project
that
I've
been
involved
with.
That's
getting
some
momentum
there's!
You
know
some
other
initiatives
going
on
sort
of
related
to
climate
stuff
that
I'm
involved
with
here
in
upstate,
new
york
and
with
some
of
the
other
enable
folks,
but
there's
also
I
mean
in
in
a
previous
life.
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B
B
B
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E
C
E
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C
D
A
That
could
cover
some
of
the
the
over
the
limb
leaf.
What
are
they
called
over?
The
elbow
that
were
so
open,
something
like
that
could
be
used.
So
there
wasn't
such
an
openness
in
the.
What
is
that
over
the
elbow
device
called
you
know
the
hand
device
that
goes.
That's
that's
operated
from
the
elbow
the
unlimited.
A
Nice,
I
I
spoke
with
a
woman
today
who,
who
has
below
the
elbow
not
today
this
week
below
the
elbow
amputation
and
she
had
something
when
this
happened
and
she
you
know
she's
not
using
it
anymore.
It's
too
heavy.
You
know
it
was
the
and
I
told
her
about
you
guys
and
showed
her
some
of
the
things
on
the
web
and
I
she
hasn't
gotten
back
to
me.
I
don't
know
if
she
wants
to
fuss
with
it,
but
she
lives
right
nearby
and
I
just
met
her.
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A
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B
Right
and
that
might
be
a
sort
of
a
an
initiative
of
this
kind
of
a
group-
is
to
get
together
every
month,
but
also
to
identify
you
know
some
specific
cases
and
projects
and
new
folks
that
are
interested
and
try
to
figure
out
what
they
need
to
get
involved,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
different
for
each
person.
It
would
be
great
to
try
to
reach
out
to
some
of
the
kids
and
parents
too.
We
haven't
had
much
luck
with
the
emails,
but.
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C
A
A
Go
and
say:
look
at
this
is
what
I've
had
all
this
time
right,
and
this
is
this
group-
that's
doing
these
amazing
things
and
I'd
like
to
share
this
information
with
you
and
that's
how
I
approached
this
woman.
I'd
never
met
her
before,
but
she
was
working
at
a
checkout
in
the
local
food
co-op
and
anyway
yeah.
It
was
I'm
happy
to
when
I
see
people
I'm
happy
to
just
broach
the
conversation.
A
Yeah,
so
it
was
congenital
and
I'm
I
tried
something
a
few
years
ago
with
a
gentleman
from
switzerland
who
was
still,
I
find
his
name.
I
can't
think
of
it
right
now,
but
he's
still
on
line
here.
He
shows
up
and
it
never
really
worked
out,
and
then
you
know
I'm
retired
from
teaching,
and
I
thought
well,
let's
try
this
again
and
found
found
that
you
guys
had
you
know
you
kept
doing
this
reiteration
like
you're,
saying
ben
things.
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A
C
Oh,
I
also
wanted
to
say
when
I
first
became
aware
of
enable
I
was
researching
3d
printing
and
I
came
across
enable-
and
I
put
I
put
a
request
up
on
the
hub.
You
know
hey
I'd
like
to
try
one
of
these
devices
and
I
almost
kind
of
had
to
laugh
to
myself,
because
I
got
a
feeling
there
weren't
a
lot
of
you
know
middle-aged
guys
that
were
looking
for
a
hand.
B
C
Yeah
I've
got
pretty
good
functionality,
and
actually,
when
I,
when
I
first
started,
you
know
using
her
playing
around
with
the
device,
it
was
kind
of
more
of
a
novelty
or
a
toy,
but
it
it
has
does
come
in
handy
sometimes,
and
it's
just
been
a
lot
of
fun
to
work
on
it.
As
john
knows,
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
You
know
looking
at
different
things
and
getting
a
lot
of
people's
input
to
you
know,
design
something
that
you
know
progresses
things
forward.
A
Yeah,
well,
you
know
us
middle-aged
people
have
learned
to
adapt
and
to
to
to
use
what
we've
got
and
there's
just
a
few
things
that
we
can't
that
I
can't
do,
but
it
sure
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
just
open
a
jar
you
know
or
to
hold,
as
I
said
to
to
somebody
at
one
point,
hold
two
bottles
of
beer
and
give
you
one.
You
know.
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C
It's
nice-
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
judy.
You
can
probably
speak
to
this,
but
you
know
we
focus
so
much.
On
the
prosthetic
hand,
it's
it's.
What
that
it's,
what
a
functional
hand,
it's
not
going
to
have
the
full
function
of
a
normal
hand,
but
what
it
allows
you
to
do
now
with
this
hand,
because
it
frees
this
hand
up
and
so.
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F
No
no
back
when
I
was
inventing
when
I
invented
writing
in
the
old
days,
no
actually
about
that's
right.
Six
years
ago,
when
enable
was
starting.
Okay,
I
have
to
dig
up
these
groups,
but
there
are
organizations
and
meetings
at
various
times
around
the
country
for
children
and
adults,
but
most
importantly,
for
families
that
include
someone
with
a
child
with
limb
differences,
they're,
wonderful
meetings
and
by
the
way
they're
the
first
chance
for
many
of
these
kids
to
play
with
other
kids.
Who've
got
similar
conditions.
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F
You
know
either
or
both
of
you
would
be
tremendous
ambassadors
and
liaisons,
because
you
know
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
in
our
in
in
our
network
is
we
have
an
abundance
of
people
who
want
to
make
hands
and
we
currently
have
more
of
them
than
people
who
are
asking
for
them.
But
that's
because
we
haven't
had
people
like,
for
example,
a
middle-aged
retired
educator
who
can
reach
out
to
in
in
that
particular
way
to
those
to
those
people.
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A
There
is
one
on
facebook.
I've
noticed
that
is
very
supportive
of
families.
Who've
had
a
new
child,
that's
been
born
with
a
limb
difference,
and
I
can't
think
of
the
name
of
it
now,
but
I'm
a
friends
to
that
group,
but
I
don't
they're
more
of
a
supportive
group
online.
I
think
and
boy
they
are
really.
I
wish
my
mother
had
something
like
that
when
I
was
born
back
in
1948
yeah,
but
there
was
you
know
there
were
things
for
it
still
seems
to
think
more
things
for
amputees.
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F
There,
but
there
are
also
there
is
also
a
network
of
for
congenital
uh-huh
cases.
Okay
and
frankly,
outreach
is
something
I
have.
None
of
us
have
really
tried
to
do
okay,
but
in,
but
you
make
me
realize
that
in
part,
it's
because
we
didn't
have
the
the
unique
the
appropriate
advantage
and
experience
that
you
might
so.
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John
is
proposing
maybe
a
list
that
we
can
all
contribute
to
of
some
of
these
groups
and
exploring
kind
of
the
the
outreach
opportunities.
What's
unique
about
this
group
versus
some
of
the
others
that
I've
seen
online
is
there's
active
design
and
iterations
going
on
led
by
developments
that
you
guys
are
doing
so.
You
know
judy
you're
working
on
your
case
and
mike's
working
on.
You
know
not
just
one
device
but
several
and
that
perspective
together
with
you
know
the
first-hand
experience
of
using
a
device,
I
think,
is
unique.
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Yes,
yes,
and
trying
to
use
the
nick
finger
as
a
thumb,
I've
drilled,
three
holes.
We
were
trying
to
make
it
attach
to
the
outside
of
the
open
area
of
the
kinetic
hand,
without
the
thumb
and
we
had
one
hole
with
the
screw
in
it
and
that
didn't
seem
right.
So
I
went
and
got
some
more
screws
and
drilled
some
more
holes,
one
above
it,
one
below
it.
Thinking.
Okay,
that's
gonna,
work
that
didn't
work,
the
other
one
didn't
work,
and
I
thought
this
is
such
a
mess.
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A
That
might
go
on
someone's
hand
so
that
you
can
ask
actually
have
the
clasping
ability,
so
I
I
felt
so
badly
because
these
these
two
brothers
and
this
brother
and
sister
have
been
working
so
hard
to
make
this
work
for
me.
But
then
the
interesting
thing
is
that
we
had
a
meeting
between
two
two
younger
people:
a
young
man,
who's
18.
Maybe
he's
19.
Now
he's
going
off
to
college.
He
never
had
a
prosthetic.
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The
the
hands
to
talk
to
each
other,
and
that
was
pretty
good,
so
he
he
is
receiving.
He
received
this
hand
where
his
entire
hand
goes
into
the
kinetic
hand.
So
he
has
the
operating
thumb.
He's
got
all
five
fingers,
okay,
the
thumb
and
four
fingers
and
he
was
able
to
slip
his
whole
hand
in
well.
They
made
it
fit.
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A
So
once
we
had
that
meeting,
I
thought
you
know.
I've
always
done
things
with
my
thumb,
and
so
I
I
tried
to
put
my
with
the
kinetic
hand.
I
have.
I
tried
to
see
if
I
could
fit
my
thumb
in
and
would
it
work,
and
you
know
I
thought
that's
just
a
whole
new
concept
for
me
so
yeah,
so
I'm
making
a
little
paradigm
shift
here.
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B
It
doesn't
have
to
be
mutually
exclusive.
John.
This
is
the
the
person
on
the
case
for
judy.
This
is
the
brother
and
sister
team
that
are
saying:
hey,
let's
work,
not
just
as
makers
supporting
your
case,
but
as
a
team
where
there's
sort
of
this
consulting,
I
think
that's,
wonderful
and
and
I'd
love
to
follow.
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B
B
A
She
made,
I
think,
five
different
palms,
basically
palms
with
with
wristlets.
She
didn't
do
the
fingers
on
all
of
them.
She
showed
me
a
really
small
one,
just
to
see
how
it
operated
and
then
she
did
five
different
sizes
from
all
of
the
measurements
and
photographs
I'd
sent
her,
which
were
way
and
above
the
photographs
that
are
first
mentioned
in
the
in
one
of
the
early
pages
of
when
you
want
a
device.
A
I
actually
ended
up.
I
had
friends
taking
a
pictures
with
rulers
and
and
trying
to
get
the
phone
level,
and
I
finally
took
my
tripod
and
put
some
cording.
You
know
that
cording
you
can
get
at
home
depot
the
the
wire
with
the
sticky
stuff
on
the
outside
and
made
myself
a
level
stand
and
put
my
camera
on
that,
and
then
you
know
it
was
pretty
easy
to
get
the
lighting
and
everything
so.
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F
Okay,
so
there's
the
social
side
of
what
you
were
just
talking
about,
but
then
there's
the
technical
side
right.
The
new
way
of
thinking
about
it
you're
saying,
is
to
imagine
what
that
your
entire
hand
is
encased
and
that
you're
not
making
use
of
your
finger
and
thumb
right,
and
then
you
would
just
deal
with
the
mechanical
functionality
of
the
of
the
whole
thing.
F
A
Pounding
a
nail
you
go,
get
a
hammer
for
it
when
you
need
to
open
a
jar,
if
you
don't
have
the
the
adaptive
thing
that
I
have,
I
would
get
this
and
and
put
it
on
and
then
use
it
when
I
need
to
hold
a
board
when
I'm
sawing
something.
If
I'm
not
using.
You
know
a
particular
saw
but
want
to
use
a
skill
saw
or
something.
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A
Magic
crayola
clay,
it's
very
lightweight
and
it
does
dry
hard,
but
it
will
crack.
I,
when
you
put
pressure
on
it,
I
noticed
the
ones
that
I
had
inside
tended
to
crack,
but
they
held
their
form
and
they
still
made
the
emptiness
disappear.
The
emptiness
that
you
know
that
you
use,
because
it's
a
generic
design
that
you
have
for
many
different
kinds
of
of
hand
formations,
but
it's
like
having
a
shoe
that
fits.
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There
we
go
yeah
judy
mentioned,
I
think
the
fabric,
and
I
I
printed
some
of
this
as
the
hex
nasa
fabric.
They
call
it
pretty
neat
stuff
and
you
know
alex,
and
I've
been
talking
about
how
that
we
might
incorporate
some
of
this
into
a
design
right
now,
we're
looking
at
possibly
using
some
of
this
to
make
the
pocket
for
the
for
the
hand
to
fit
in.
C
C
If
you
got
the
holes
in
there
and
then
it
would
string
through
the
the
pieces
on
here
and
then
you
could
basically
tighten
it
down
like
a
boot,
we're
looking
at
doing
front
and
back
and
just
see
how
that
holds
up,
but
the
advantages
of
that
which
could
be
pretty
cool
is
this
is
on
the
back
side.
It's
it's
pretty
open.
It's
very.
C
Porous
or
whatever,
and
if
this
were
the
piece
that
were
to
be
against
your
hand
it
would
it
would
offer
a
ton
of
ventilation,
I
mean
it
would
be,
it
would
be
very
cool.
You
know,
I
got
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
some
grip
on
here,
but
yeah.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
working
at
you
know
just
the
fact
that
it's
flexible,
you
know
even
for
a
gauntlet.
C
I'm
gonna
need
new
stuff,
so
yeah.
So
looking
at
different
fabrics,
I
like
that
we've
looked
at
the
chain
maille,
but
yeah
we're
just
kind
of
throwing
around
some
ideas.
Now
I've
got
a
alex
is
waiting
for
me
to
cut
this
and
string
this
up
and-
and
I'm
I'm
looking
at
this,
it's
like
all
right.
I
might
have
to
get
the
dremel
tool
out
and
start
cutting
this
stuff
up.
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
I'm
gonna
string
it
all
together,
but
that's
that's
what
we're
trying.
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B
So,
while
we're
waiting
for
alexander's
computer
to
wake
up,
I
did
want
to
mention
that
there
is
a
few
small
initiatives
that
we've
started.
It's
it's
been
a
little
bit
of
a
stuttering
start,
so
it
hasn't
been
as
as
regular
as
as
I
had
hoped,
but
I
talked
to
bob
rieger
who
manages
the
cases
with
enable
web
central
and
we
we
posted
a
we're.
Looking
at
team
fortress
2.
B
Okay,
so
I've
posted
some
challenging
cases
from
enable
web
central
and
gotten
some
feedback
from
people
that
might
be
involved
or
might
be
able
to
be
involved
in
helping
out
in
those
cases.
Every
time
I
share
one
of
those
posts.
I
really
encourage
you
guys
to
to
comment
on
them,
because
your
direct
experiences,
I
think,
are,
are
really
helpful
when
it
comes
to
these
challenging
cases
of
recognizing
things
like
well.
The
device
that
you're
using
is
they're
going
to
need
some
of
this
filler
material
or
the
you
know.
B
The
customization
is
really
important.
That
kind
of
stuff
challenging
cases
are
going
to
be
posted.
Also,
we
talked
about
sharing
successful
cases.
Actually
I
might
even
share-
and
I
might
wait
a
week
or
two,
but
I
might
share
judy
your
case.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'd
really
love
to
focus
on
positive
collaborations,
between
folks,
with
limb
difference
that
are
actively
leading
the
design
with
you
know,
sort
of
partner,
fabricators
and
showing
people
how
it
works,
because
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
misnomer.
B
B
B
D
A
So
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
do
this
next
stage,
but,
but
I
would
imagine,
would
be
another
request
and
my
request
would
include
the
two
people
who
would
be
the
makers
or
the
fabricators
so,
but
it
then
it
would
be,
at
least
in
in.
However,
you,
the
databases
that
you
keep
your
your
documentation
in
is
that
the
right
way
to
go
about
it.
B
D
E
A
E
D
C
E
A
A
E
Or
almost
straight
up,
and
then
they
unite
with
the
central
one:
okay
and
then
the
way
they
link
together
is
that
basically,
they
hug
each
other
with
certain
certain
pillars.
So
you
have
a
pillar
coming
from
this
side
going
over
the
next
one
and
back
on
itself,
and
you
do
that
symmetrically.
So
if
you
watch
this
pillar
in
particular,
it
goes
up
and
hugs
the
pillar
from
from
his
neighbor.
E
A
E
A
E
B
D
B
Organic
zooming
in,
but
it's
it's
a
it's
a
really
interesting
new
material.
It's
something
that
esteban
is
is
exploring
we'll
have
john
cena
sample
the
material
okay,
and
I'm
really
excited
to
follow
the
next
steps
for
the
things
that
you're
working
on.
I
did
share
in
the
chat,
but
if
you're
looking
at
a
thumb
edition
that
has
more
of
a
hook,
you
could
talk
to
connie
about
maybe
a
thumb
that
has
a
set
screw
so.
B
B
D
B
D
A
B
A
B
Yeah,
he
really
is,
I
think,
in
the
same
way,
keep
me
posted
if
you
come
across
any
it
could
be
inspiring
athletes
or
other
folks
that
are
navigating
the
world,
with
limb,
difference
and
sort
of
pursuing
different
careers,
I'd
love
to
reach
out
and
have
that
as
being
kind
of
a
regular
thing.
You
know.
D
B
D
D
A
D
B
C
B
E
D
E
B
B
We
were
just
going
over
the
the
new
materials,
and
I
mentioned
that
you
and
I
are
collaborating
together
on
a
story
for
the
newsletter
in
terms
of
outreach
john's
going
to
get
that
list
of
resources
together,
but
for
all
of
us
to
keep
in
mind
anybody,
we
want
to
invite
to
this
group
the
more
the
merrier.
Also,
it
might
be
worth
thinking
about
joining
some
of
these
other
groups
to
do
some
kind
of
a
presentation.
B
If
you
guys
are
interested,
I
mean
again
being
sort
of
the
leaders
in
a
design.
Group,
I
think,
is
a
different
role
than
some
of
the
other
groups
that
I've
seen,
which
are
more
about
family
support
or
receiving
something.
I
think
you
guys
are
really
driving
in
the
driver's
seat
of
design,
iterations
and
new
materials
and
kind
of
emerging
designs.
C
Yeah
back
to
that,
you
mentioned
that
group
in
australia
that
alex
and
I
had
got
on
a
call
with
they're
doing
this
presentation
on
a
phoenix
hand
that
they're
modifying
you
know
with
removing
some
of
the
fingers
and
the
ability
to
select
which
ones
and
yeah
I
think
they
appreciated
it.
They
you
know,
I
think
they
got
some
good
ideas,
or
at
least
some
some
support
in
the
fact
that
they
were.
You
know
doing
things
that
we
were
we
were
talking
about.
You
know
ourselves
so
yeah.
B
That's
awesome:
I
have
seen
actually
a
significant
amount
of
posts
in
the
hub
about
similar
things.
People
looking
at
trying
to
design
devices
where
you
can
remove
different
fingers.
I've
seen
a
few
cases
where
similar
to
judy's
anatomy,
it
wouldn't
work
to
have
a
traditional
device
unless
you
put
your
whole
residual
hand
inside
you
know
somebody.
I
think
I
saw
some
that
had
the
it
was.
C
There's
a
woman
here
in
austin
that
I
I've
I
want
to
connect
with.
I
just
don't
want
to
connect
with
her,
because
I
know
I'm
not
going
to
have
enough
time
but
and
she's
kind
of
got.
It
looks
like
it
kind
of
cut
across
here
she
was
in
a
bike
accident,
so
she's
missing
part
of
her
of
her
these
these
two
fingers-
and
you
know
I
actually
I
I
am
looking
at
that-
and
I'm
thinking
boy.
You
know
you
might
be
better
off
just
not
having
a
prosthetic
on
there.
C
C
C
A
A
But
she
has
three
fingers
and
a
thumb
and
her
hand
is
beautiful,
it's
absolutely
beautiful
and
whatever
he's
done
and
whatever
she
had
as
her
own
anatomy,
it
made
me
think
that
eventually
humans,
if
we're
still
around
with
the
environmental
disaster,
that's
going
on,
will
end
up
with
only
three
fingers,
because
you
really
don't
use
this
finger,
the
the
middle
the
ring
finger.
You
really
only
need
three
fingers
to
operate.
Three
fingers
and
a
the
thumb
and
her
hand.
D
A
Yep
so
anyway,
her
hands
was
his.
Her
hands
were
beautiful,
and
this
doctor
had
done
a
wonderful
sh.
She
was
still
facing
some
more
surgery,
but
I
don't
know
why,
because
her
hands
look
beautiful,
but
yeah.
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
the
anatomy
with
what
you're
born
with
or
what
accident
leaves
you
with.
A
A
D
B
C
B
D
B
B
So
here's
this
long
list
of
resources
more
for
you
know,
professionals
but
yeah.
I
think
it's
also
a
really
great
space
for
what
we're
talking
about
in
the
wiki
there's,
there's
some
references
to
some
customization
projects.
Here's
the
customized
phoenix
hand
anatomy.
This
was
a
project
that
just
had
great
documentation
from
a
couple
years
ago,
but
in
the
stream
it
might
be
a
great
place
to
start
pulling
some
of
these
resources
together.
B
Unfortunately,
the
forum
it
just
keeps
streaming
by
so
sometimes
there's
a
couple
things
that
are
similar
and
then
they
sort
of
get
separated
over
time.
So
maybe
I'll
try
to
pull
some
of
those
resources
together,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
come
up
with
a
a
group
to
keep
updates
between
them
between
each
other
about
developments.
It's
great
that
mike
you
were
able
to
meet
with
the
group
in
sydney,
and
it
sounds
like
there's
a
couple.
Other
groups
too,
that
maybe
we
can
pull
together.
C
C
C
B
B
C
B
D
C
B
B
You
could
create
a
private
space
and
then
just
share
it
with
your
group,
and
that
would
be
fine.
You
could
create
a
public
space.
You
know.
If
down
the
line,
you
want
to
explore
like
a
new
thumb,
design,
there's
unlimited
spaces
that
we
get
so
right
now
mike
and
his
team
with
alexander,
have
a
space
for
for
customization
on
their
research
project.
It's
it's
nice.
It
can
be
something
where
you.
If
you
have
a
couple
people
working
together,
it
shares
a
little
bit
of
information.