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From YouTube: Device Pilots Meeting - July
Description
Monthly meetings that are open for new e-NABLE community members who have limb differences and have interest in piloting a device. Visit our community space for those who pilot open source prosthetic devices here:
https://hub.e-nable.org/s/panel-of-pilots/
We explore how different devices work to perform daily needs, improvements to designs, inspiration, and ways members are contributing their insights to community efforts.
C
A
D
E
And
what
do
you
think
would
make
it
more
useful
for
you,
if
you,
if
you
could
add,
features
to
this
arm
or
come
up
with
a
new
arm
idea?
I
know
jeremy's
involved
with
a
project.
That's
looking
at.
I
think
a
wrist
activated
device
right
now,
but
there's
a
lot
of
conversations
about
improvements.
C
E
A
and
there's
actually
there's
a
a
arm
that
has,
let
me
add
the
link.
D
D
B
Because
these
just
in
case,
because
sometimes
if
you
have
to
pull
okay,
some
of
these
come
loose
and
so
you
adjust
them
yeah.
That's
why
I,
when
you
pull
it,
sometimes
they
just
if
you
pull
too
tight
they'll
come
loose.
Okay,
so,
like
I've
been
sticking
it
around
these
little
loops
right
here
to
hold
it
a
little
tighter,
so
it
doesn't
come
loose.
C
A
I'm
wondering
why
you
can't
print
a
a
cover
like
for
the
hand
on
the
kinetic,
why
that
couldn't
be
designed
to
go
down
here
too,
you
know
even
designed
individually,
depending
on
the
person's
residual
arm.
C
A
D
That's
definitely
interesting,
so
that
would
be
using
what
you
just
showed
on.
The
kinetic
end
is
using
a
flexible
material.
D
E
Esteban,
I
added
a
link
in
there
for
the
for
the
qual
arm,
which
is
sort
of
a
a
covering
for
the
forearm
socket,
but
there's
also
the
poe
arm
sort
of
has
what
you're
talking
about
it
looks
like
it's.
It's
sort
of
two
sections
that
kind
of
enclose
each
other
almost
like
an
envelope
is
that
sort
of
what
you're
imagining.
E
Right,
maybe
maybe
it
could
even
be
a
material
like
judy's
palm,
that
is
thermoformable
and
flexible,
even
breathable,
because
I
don't
know.
B
Because
I
don't
know
like
if
other
people-
and
they
have
the
same
problem
but
like
at
the
end
of
my
stub-
it's
some
sometimes
it's
really
really
cold
right
and
then
some
days
is
warm
like
literally
sometimes
it's
so
frozen
that
I
can
feel
it
like
it's
from
say
from
here
to
about
here.
It's
literally
just.
B
No,
it's
it's
not
the
arm.
I've
been
always
like
that,
though
my
arms
always
because
I
didn't
wear
anything
before
okay,
so
it
would
always
always
stay
cold.
It's
maybe
because
of
the
circulation,
but
it's
not
it's
not
nothing
to
do
with
the
hand
okay,
but
it's
like
uncomfortable
a
lot
for
me,
because
this
part
here
is
open.
So
if.
C
B
B
C
E
It's
an
interesting
idea
to
have
something
where
you
can
keep
your
your
residual
arm
warm,
but
also
not
have
it
get
in
the
way
of
the
device
and
and
sort
of
have
it
not
show
up
so
much.
I
I
did
see
in
the
chat
alexander
added
there's
a
material
that
sort
of
looks
like
chain
mail.
D
F
It's
very
fun
to
print
and
it
does
work
directly
off
the
print
bed.
It
prints
very
nicely
without
supports,
and
maybe
being
paired
like
on
the
inside
of
the
arm
being
paired
with
some
fabric,
so
that
it
also
keeps
the
fabric
in
contact
with
the
skin,
so
it
doesn't
get
in
the
way
of
the
device,
but
it
also
acts
as
a
normal
clothing.
C
D
C
D
D
Yeah,
there's
lots
of
different
levels
of
flexibility
and
she
probably
went
to
a
something
like
a
tpu,
90
or
95,
or
something
like
that,
which
is
a
semi-flex
material
and
and
that'll
work
great,
but
a
lot
of
people
still
have
difficulties
just
getting
that
flexible
material
to
run
through
their
printers.
So
we
always
are
looking
for
alternatives.
It's
great
for
some
people.
Some
people
have
no
issues
printing
it,
but
others.
D
This
is
an
interesting
alternative
that
you
know
if
somebody
can't
print
that
you
know
this
would
be
an
alternative,
because
it
would
it's
printed
in
a
rigid
material,
but
because
of
the
chain
mail,
you
know
it
it.
It
ends
up
being
just
like
fabric
I've
printed
one
of
these
before
and
it'll,
just
kind
of
you
know
flow
over
whatever
shape
you
put
it
on.
D
Just
click
on
that
thingyverse
link
there
in
the
chat,
the.
E
Yeah,
it
looks
like
a
fabric,
I
guess
the
only
issue
with
it
is
that
it
wouldn't
solve
the
issue
of
temperature.
I
mean
it's.
E
Just
as
breathable
as
not
having
anything,
but
you
could
have
a
sock
or
something
to
a
mitten
to
keep
the
residual
warm
and
then
having
this
over.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
see
that
at
all.
It
would
just
be
this
sort
of
material.
E
C
E
D
C
F
Yes
and
I've
tested
how
it
holds
onto
a
hand,
and
it's
really
rigid
when
it
matters,
and
it's
really
flexible
when
it
when
it
doesn't
need
to
be
rigid.
D
F
Yeah,
just
simple
pla,
I
think
devil
design,
so
nothing
too
serious
and
with
the
standard
tests
and
the
smallest
one,
I
believe
from
the
from
their
website.
Well,.
D
A
C
C
E
I'm
curious,
if,
if
you
are
interested
in
this
new
material
estimate,
maybe
if
you
measure
how
big
of
a
piece
you
would
need,
I
wonder
if
jeremy
is
that
something
that
you
might
be
able
to
send
for
estimating.
D
Just
thinking
about
that
yeah
because
I'm
thinking
I'm
going
to
print
one
of
the
bigger
pieces
today,
since
I
have
some
bigger
printers
here,
how
would
you
trim?
I
guess
you
could
just
cut
links,
I'm
just
thinking
about
how
you
would
go
about
customizing,
that
I
guess
you
could
probably
cut
it.
I
mean
these
are
individual
pieces
that
you
could
kind
of
flip
off
and
kind
of
shape.
It.
D
Right,
okay,
let
me
see
how
the
print
goes,
but
I'm
happy
to
send
it
to
you
esteban
okay.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
get
one
done
here
and
maybe
I'll
do
a
couple
of
them,
so
I
want
to
have
one
that
we
can
play
with
for
our
design
team
as
well
and
explore
options
in
that
other
meeting
that
we
have
so
I'll,
maybe
print
one
to
keep
here
to
play
with
and
print
one
to
send
to
you
I'll
work
on
that
yeah.
D
F
D
A
Well,
but
the
chain
mill
is
when
it's
it's
too
hot
and.
C
C
B
A
B
C
C
E
I
guess
you'd
want
to
color
coordinate,
so
what
color
would
be
best
to
print
esteban
black?
You
think.
D
Looks
like
oh,
you
have
screen
sharing
disabled
then.
C
D
So
this
is
the
one
that
I'll
print
this
is
191
millimeters
square.
What
is
that
in
inches.
D
E
C
E
And
just
I
I
figured
it's
worth
introducing
alexander,
you
guys
might
have
already
met
him
before,
but
alexander's
involved
with
the
design
project
that
jeremy
and
and
some
folks
are
working
on
bob.
Can
you
hear
us.
G
D
We've
been
talking
a
lot
about
the
the
army
made
for
esteban
and.
G
D
Yeah,
so
did
I
but
alexander
shared
with
us
a
link
and
it
won't.
You
won't
see
it
because
you
joined
later.
So
let
me
get
you
a
copy
of
this
link.
He
shared
with
us
a
new
version
on
thingiverse
there
that
looks
like
kind
of
an
improved
version,
so
I'm
going
to
try
print
one
of
these
sheets
today
and
if
it
comes
out
well,
I'm
going
to
send
one
to
esteban
to
play
with.
G
G
D
I
I
did
want
it
held
up
really
well,
I
still
have
a
couple
of
sheets
of
it,
but
this
design
looks
better.
It's
just
got
smoother
contours
and
stuff.
So
I'll
try
this
one
out
today
and
then
he
should
be
able
to
just
kind
of
you
know,
trim
it
down
to
get
it
to
the
shape
that
he
needs
and
we
talked
about
maybe
just
using
zip
ties
to
attach
it
and
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
G
So
esteban,
where
is
it
going
to
be
used
just
right.
D
E
Cool
and
speaking
of
of
novel
materials-
I
I
know
judy
you've
been
experimenting
with
a
material
for
sort
of
a
filler
on
the
inside
pocket
of
your
device.
Maybe
you
could
tell
us
about
the
things
you've
been
working
on
and
how
that's
been
going.
C
A
So
I
thought:
okay,
I
used
to
get
these
free
samples
when
I
taught
art
in
in
public
school-
and
there
was
this-
this
stuff
called
model
magic,
that's
made
by
crayola.
You've,
probably
seen
these
at
stores,
or
maybe
your
kids
or
grandkids
use
it.
A
A
The
packages
that
were
inside
of
this
one
package
I
bought
was
it's
half
an
ounce
and
I
used
two
half
ounce
packages
and
mixed
them
together
and
sort
of
filled
the
space
inside
here
and
put
my
hand
in
to
can
to
have
it
conform
to
my
residual
hand
and
then
the
cover
and
then
basically
made
sure
the
screws
would
still
go
down
and
then
let
it
dry.
A
I
mixed
two
colors
together
red
and
blue
and
got
well.
You
probably
can't
see
the
purple.
D
Yeah,
no,
that's
it's
a
very
good
approach
and
I
just
want
to
say
this
is
similar
to
something
that
john
schull
shared
with
us
recently
in
our
other
meeting,
something
called
instamorph.
It
looks
pretty
similar,
I'm
going
to
put
the
link
here
in
case.
You
want
to
look
at
that
and
it's
something
I
think
he
said
you
like:
stick
it
in
the
microwave
and
and
warm
it,
and
then
you
mold
it
and
it
sounds
like
it
works
just
like
what
you're
using
so
that
might
just
be
another
alternative.
D
C
C
C
D
It
looks
like
they
have
a
four
ounce
package
for
three
dollars
and
fifty
cents.
There's.
D
Oh,
this
is
nice;
they
have,
they
have
a
pack
that
they
sell
with
14
single
packs
for
just
over
15
dollars.
That's
the
kind
of
thing
that
I
I
could
even
like
include
a
pack
of
that
in
our
kits
or
something.
D
D
D
A
Well,
you
can
reuse
this
stuff
sort
of
like
play-doh
if
you
keep
it
in
a
container,
but
it
does
air
dry.
So
once
you
for
us,
you
make
the
form
you
want
you
just
let
it
sit
on
the
counter
and
turn
it
from
time
to
time
or
sit
on
the
sit
on
paper.
I
think
from
time
to
time,
because
it
does
not
shrink
like
clayton.
A
A
A
D
Good,
so
it's
got
just
enough
give
for
comfort.
It
sounds
like.
A
A
So
that's
a
lot
of
floating
around
in
there
when
you're
trying
to
operate
the
device
you
know
anyway.
A
So
I
thought
it
was
cool
but
yeah,
that's
my
only
thought,
but
I'm
also
testing
out
a
nick
finger
or
a
thumb
for
my
thumb.
That
only
has
one
joint
and
I'll
tell
you
the
nick
finger,
I'm
trying
to.
If
I
asked
connie
she's
she's
printed
out
two
for
me
and
they're,
not
quite
the
right
size,
but
we
printed
out
one
in
black
that
I
don't
have
on,
but
it
doesn't
seem
to
snap
back
easily.
A
There
we
go
and
the
other
one
I've
taken
apart
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
put
it
back
together
again.
But
I
was
good,
she's
printing
me
some
more
of
the
sleeves.
I
don't
know
what
you
call
the
first
part
of
it
that
actually
goes
on
your
residual
finger.
A
C
D
D
A
That's
the
point
of
this
so
that
when
I
use
it
on
the
hand,
I
can
actually
connect
things
by
having
a
three
point
or
a
two
point.
Well,
you
know
what
do
you
call
this
a
two-point
connection,
so
you
can
do
this
and
we're
thinking
that
might
do
it.
A
A
D
Debatable
somebody
felt
that
that
would
give
you
a
better
gripping
position.
I
I
think
that
that
the
jury
is
still
out
on
that.
I
personally,
like
the
kinetic
hand,
with
a
more
natural
orientation
of
the
thumb,
yeah
yeah.
So
it's
just
just
different
ways
of
thinking
about
how
do
you
get
the
best
possible
sort
of
grip
shape
so
that
you
can
do
the
most
with
it
yeah.
G
C
E
Well,
how
how
has
your
device
been
working
for
you
judy?
Have
you
tried,
obviously,
you've
been
working
with
them.
A
I
have
been
and
I'll
tell
you
it's
it's
exhausting
and
it's
not
physically
exhausting
it's
mentally,
exhausting
because
you
know
you
pick
something
up,
you
just
do
it
because
you've
been
doing
it,
how
many
odd
years
you've
been
alive-
and
this
is
like
I've
got
to
concentrate
on
where
the
fingers
have
to
go,
to
be
able
to
get
them
underneath
to
be
able
to
wrap
around
them
and
because
I
still
don't
have
the
thumb
perfected.
A
C
A
F
Judy
I
wanna
ask:
do
you
find
it
hard
to
learn
how
to
use
the
arm?
Because
your
natural
arm
is
wobbling
inside
the
device,
or
is
it
simply
that
it's
a
new
device
new
finger?
So
you
have
to
learn
how
to
use
it
in
general,.
A
Well
because
I
made
the
filler
to
fill
up
the
vacuum
in
there
or
the
the
leftover
negative
space.
That
is
not
a
problem
before
it
was
a
problem
because
you
know
the
hand
will
just
move
around,
but
it's
mainly
because
there's
a
device
and
I've
never
had
fingers
there
before
and
even
if
I
did
have
fingers.
If
I
was
born
complete
well
with
all
with
both
hands,
complete
and
lost
them,
it
still
might
be
a
training
that
you
have
to
do
because
of
the
device
and
how
you
have
to
operate
it.
F
A
prosthetist
or
some
some
medical
professional
regarding
this
like
adapting
to
the
prosthesis,
because
it's
an
entire
adaptation
process,
even
for
the
user.
A
Right
right,
you
mean
like
a
a
physical
therapist
or
an
occupation,
something.
A
Someone
who
does
hand
work
no,
I
haven't
yet,
and
I
thought
about
that,
but
they're
just
going
to
give
me
exercises
to
do
and
I
can
come
up
with
exercises.
F
A
F
Fair,
that's
fair,
my
recommendation
for
for
faster
adaptation
so
that
it
doesn't
take
this
entire
challenge
right.
It's
not
this
entire
mental
challenge
for
you
to
use.
It
is
either
to
get
a
sponge
ball
to
play
with
it
with
both
hands
like
throwing
it
in
the
air
and
catching
it
with
the
other
hand,.
B
B
F
F
And
this
will
help
you
quite
a
lot.
I've
been
in
a
similar
situation
and
that's
why
they
recommended-
and
I
got
my
strength
and
my
coordination
back
really
fast
other
than
that,
using
anything
that
is
a
little
bit
more
fast
paced.
So
you
would
have,
for
example,
using
a
basketball
and
tapping
it
with
both
hands.
F
A
E
You
know
some
of
it
too
is,
I
don't
know,
there's
sort
of
a
an
expectation
of
of
things
with
a
dominant
hand.
I
remember
I
broke
my
my
dominant
hand
when
I
was
19
and
for
six
months
I
had
a
cast.
It
was
a
pretty
serious
break.
I
still
have
the
scars
on
my
arm,
but
I
was
writing
with
my
left
hand
and
drawing
with
my
left
hand,
and
it
was.
It
was
frustrating
because
you
know
to
write
something
it
really.
E
What
you're
saying
it
took
more
time
and
focus
so
it
could
be
yeah,
so
it
could
be
also
something
worth
you
know,
maybe
not
necessarily
faster,
but
also
taking
time
to
do
things
slower
to
sort
of
get
a
rhythm
of
how
how
things
work.
I
know
when
I
was
writing.
I
really
had
to
slow
down
and
once
I
just
accepted
that
it
was
a
different
tempo.
A
Well,
you're,
making
you're
making
new
roots
in
your
brain
and
and
that's
probably
why
it
takes
a
little
longer.
Because
I.
C
F
Probably
more
relevant
in
the
case
of
prosthetic
users
than
in
the
case
of
accidents,
try
to
do
as
many
activities
where
you
require
to
have
both
hands
like
both
the
device
and
your
other
hand,
simply
because
you
need
to
adapt
to
the
new
possibilities
that
you
have
right
other
than
your
old
ones,
because
that's
the
point
of
a
prosthetic,
you
have
to
get
something
new.
It's
not
just
fancy.
A
No
you're
saying
it's
like
you're,
a
professional
in
in
occupational
therapy
or
physical
therapy,
not
physical
care,
occupational
therapy
or
prosthetic
therapy.
F
E
And
judy
in
terms
of
your
device,
is
there
anything
that
you
can
think
that
would
you're
aside
from
just
the
learning
curve
of
using
something
new,
any
improvements
you
can
think
about
sharing
or.
A
Well,
the
only
improvement
was
is
filling
the
space
in
there,
but
that
has
to
be
done
by
each
individual
depending
on
what
their
residual
limb
is.
But
the
nice
thing
about
that
is,
it's
so
easy
to
adapt
to
individuals,
because
you've
got
pretty
much
a
generic
space
in
there.
That
can
be
filled
with
anything.
D
C
C
E
It's
interesting
that
judy
and
esteban
are
both
looking
at
basically
in
one
way
or
another,
filling
around
spaces.
C
A
And
the
the
next
thing
is
what
you
do
when
you
you're
missing.
Well,
the
knick
finger
is
works
really
good
on
your
index
through
your
little
finger
because
they're
straight
up
and
they're
sort
of
perpendicular
to
your
wrist,
but
the
thumb
is
different
and
since
I'm
just
missing
the
distal
end
of
my
thumb,.
A
To
get
that
to
operate
right,
we
were
actually
thinking
about
this,
this
particular
hand.
She
gave
me
printed
two
hands
for
me
this
one.
She
put
a
screw
here
to
attach
the
string
to
okay.
So
it's
coming
basically
straight
down,
so
it's
almost
like
it
would
be
with
a
finger
to
the
wrist.
This
one
had
a
screw.
A
This
one
had
a
screw
on
the
inside
and
it
ended
up
and
she
tried
to
run
the
line
with
a
little
bit
of
tape,
cloth
tape
and
what
looks
like
part
of
a
wd-40
nozzle
to
go
to
run
the
string
through
that,
and
that
was
just
that
didn't
work
out.
It
was
a
good
idea.
A
The
concept
was
good
to
keep
the
string
in
place
and
protected,
but
it
was
uncomfortable
putting
on
the
device
and-
and
it
was
always
there
so
when
I
get
this
back
together-
she's
also
sending
me
some
more
that
are
a
little
bit
smaller
so
that
they
might
fit
better.
Then
I'll.
Try
attaching
it
to
this
screw
right
here
and
if
that's
not
right,
I
can
drill
another
little
hole
and
try
a
different
screw
but
yeah.
So
that's
all
I'm
working
now
working
on
now,
but.
A
Right
now
she
ended
up
printing
only
one
joint,
rather
than
the
two
on
the
next
finger.
F
I
think
nick's
nick
nick
also
has
designs
that
are
made
for
for
the
thumb.
I
don't
know
if,
if
we
have
designs
on
nick's
finger
with
only
one
joint,
so
we're
not.
F
I
know
there
is
such
a
variation.
I
don't
know
how
it
looks.
G
E
It's
interesting
to
combine
two
devices
like
that.
You
know
it.
It
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
sort
of
a
plug-and-play
option
that
we
have
for
that,
but
that
would
be
you
know,
sort
of
an
interesting
thing.
I
saw
jeremy
playing
with
the
kinetic
hand,
while
you
were
talking.
C
A
D
C
D
That's
something
we've
talked
about,
and
it's
always
going
to
vary
because
it
depends
on
the
scale
you're
printing
at
and
it
depends
on
the
settings
you
use
and
how
solid
you
make
the
hinges,
there's
so
many
variables
at
play.
It's
just
it's
a
very
tricky
thing
to
get
consistent,
but
I
was
what
I
was
looking
at
was
just
the
fact
that
on
the
original
design,
it's
a
very
simple
thumb.
It's
only
you
know
one
piece:
it's
not
like,
they
even
have
a
second.
You
know
joint
on
the
thumb.
D
So
if
you
were
to
even
just
extend
your
thumb
without
having
that
extension
operate
at
all,
you
would
already
have
the
same
functionality
as
as
the
normal.
You
know
kinetic
hand
just
something
to
think
about.
A
Oh
well,
several
years
ago,
when
I
had
that
first
device
printed,
the
fellow
trying
to
think
of
his
name
again,
daario
dario,
roth.
G
A
And
it's
okay:
it
falls
off
all
the
time.
A
D
E
A
My
thought
was:
oh
geez,
I'm
going
to
have
to
go
diving
if
it
slips
off
my
hand,
because
it's
going
to
think
to
the
ground
and
someone
was
saying
well,
you
could
just
attach
a
balloon
to
it,
a
small
balloon,
so
it
just
floats-
and
I
thought
well,
that's
an
idea-
have
a
little
balloon
on
your
device
as
you're
paddling
or
you
could
put
a
strap
like
surfboarders
use.
C
E
Well,
for
the
the
fingertips,
this
isn't
something
that
you
want
to
use
for,
something
like
glue
would
do
it.
That
would.
E
For
folding
laundry
esteban,
this
could
work.
D
D
D
D
G
G
D
A
D
No,
it's
not
very
good
for
uv
either.
Again,
there
are
other
materials
that
hold
up
much
better
in
uv
than
pla,
but
pla
will
start
to
break
down
in
uv
and
it
will
the
colors
will
fade
and
the
material
itself
will
start
to
break
down
and
degrade
in
uv.
So
you
gotta.
E
Be
careful
about
that
it's
worth
recognizing,
though,
judy
that
your
device
is
probably
made
with
pet
g
I'd.
Imagine
you
could
check
with
connie,
but
it
is
something
that
I
think
with
esteban's
device.
That's
pet
g
right.
D
Pet
g
is
our
recommended
material,
so
there's
a
good
chance,
that's
what
she
used,
because
that
is
much
better
outdoors.
It
holds
up
much
better
to
uv
it's.
It
has
a
much
better
temperature
resistance.
It's
just.
It
holds
up
a
lot
better
overall,
so
yeah
it's
worth
checking,
but
it
may
very
well
be
that
your
device
is
pet
g.
C
G
You
know
I
apologize.
I
came
to
the
meeting
late
going
to
esteban
for
a
minute.
Is
there
anything
I
should
know
esteban?
Is
it
less
noisy
than
it
used
to
be
or.
G
B
B
Yeah,
because
I
can
hold
them
both
up
like
this
and
then
I
can,
you
know,
bend
them
and
the
other
way.
I
had
to
literally
just
flip
it
over
this
and
fold
it
that
way.
G
G
E
And
we'll
do
these
at
the
same
time
every
month
we'll
do.
I
think
I
have
it
scheduled
for
the
third
monday
of
every
month.
Is
that
seem
okay
for
you
guys
esteban
judy?
That's
great.
C
E
I
also
wanted
to
mention
really
quick
that
bob
and
I
have
started
a
a
case
of
the
week
in
the
hub
I'll
be
posting
later
today.
It's
it's
looking
at
some
difficult
cases
in
the
hub
and
trying
to
open
the
the
conversation
to
see
if
people
have
ideas,
I
invite
both
of
you
guys
to
also
comment
on
those
cases,
because
you
have
really
great
first
hand,
experience
of
important
adaptations
that
you've
made
and
and
challenges
that
that
some
makers
might
not.
E
Think
of
so,
I
might
tag
you
in
in
the
post
and
if
you
can
just
share
your
ideas
of
right
from
your
experience,
that'd
be
awesome.