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From YouTube: e-NABLE SPC Meeting, October 18, 2019
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This is a recording of the e-NABLE Strategic Planning Committee meeting for Friday, October 18, 2019.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: http://bit.ly/2MzpiVm
A
Okay
sounds
good
yeah,
we
better
go
ahead
and
get
started,
others
might
join,
but
we
have
a
lot
to
cover
today.
In
fact,
I
was
going
to
ask
that
we
try
to
limit
our
individual
updates
to
about
five
minutes
apiece,
just
because
we
have
a
lot
on
any
regular
agenda
that
we
need
to
get
to
say
just
quick
review
of
action
items
I'm
assuming
with
enable
con
John.
A
B
A
B
All
right,
great
I'll,
be
quick.
An
able
con
was
was
a
really
great
experience.
During
the
event
we
tried
to
make
some
things
available,
so
we
put
together
a
hub
spaceport,
I,
put
a
link
in
there.
There
I
took
some
notes
during
the
conference
as
well,
so
I
put
a
link
in
there
as
well,
but
in
the
hub
space,
Jeremy
shared
a
link
to
the
videos
and
then
uploaded
photos
that
she
could
come
each
day,
which
is
nice.
So
if
anybody
missed
it,
it's
there
today's
the
last
day
for
the
Lumia
proposal.
B
So
if
anybody
hasn't
voted
or
I
want
to
check
it
out,
I'm
holding
he's
a
newbie
on
site,
but
by
the
look
of
it,
things
are
looking
pretty
positive.
So
maybe
next
week
at
the
SPC
I
could
do
some
kind
of
a
presentation
of
what
my
plans
are
for
the
next
month
and
just
try
to
get
aligned
with
the
projects
that
are
going
on
the
SPC
meetings.
B
Every
week
I've
been
thinking,
it'd
be
a
nice
thing
to
get
a
document
to
get
to
create
a
monthly
highlight
so
I
put
a
link
in
there
to
a
draft
for
that.
It's
just
a
template,
but
just
a
simple
way
that
we
can
try
to
look
over
a
month's
worth
of
SPC
meetings,
a
lot
of
the
times.
There's
there's
beams
involved.
B
So
it's
it's
a
trial
but
I
think
that'll
help
in
terms
of
pulling
things
from
the
SPC
meetings
into
the
quarterly
newsletters
and
just
having
sort
of
the
digested
form
that
that
people
can
check
out
if
they're
not
able
to
join,
and
the
survey
will
talk
about
later,
but
I
put
a
link
in
there
too.
So
that
was
something
that
I
started
at
the
beginning
of
the
conference
didn't
and
we
added
to
it
so
it'll
be
great.
Today,
great.
D
D
During
the
week,
I
gave
a
presentation
to
a
church
group
about
enable
and
the
Libra.
The
church
group
actually
is
an
african-american
man
who
does
a
lot
of
working
on
his
own
foundation
and
I'm,
getting
them
together
for
lunch
to
November,
with
John
Landau,
who
has
donated
24
car
alarms
to
the
government
through
a
private
contact.
He
has
and
they're
gonna
see
if
they
can
help
each
other
and
together
and
increase.
D
Opportunities
for
people
to
donate
devices
to
Ghana
and
the
overall
community,
and
maybe
John,
can
get
his
contact
in
Ghana
to
help
Michael
Walters.
This
individual,
with
his
child
empowerment
foundation,
may
be
there.
So
what's
some
outreach
for
doing
I'm
gonna
start
going
after
a
neighbor
web
central
facilitation,
again
I
kind
of
do
this
Wow
ease
and
let
it
give
time
to
people
to
catch
up
and
then
I
come
back
again.
So
it's
a
bad
time
to
start
up
that
effort.
D
But
you
know
we
have
a
hundred
thirteen
cases
enable
web
central
76
of
them
were
fully
staffed.
Nine
were
waiting
for
volunteers,
it's
it's
getting
down
to
small
numbers.
We
really
need
to
talk
at
some
point
about
and
we
got
a
lot
more
cases
with
ewc
because
you
know
I'm
also
spending
a
fair
amount
I'm
on
the
badging
and
the
helpdesk
and
people
are
looking
for
recipients
and
I
refer
me
WC.
D
A
A
A
A
A
F
A
Good
on
we
go
I
guess
that
puts
me
up
next,
and
this
is
John.
Don't
want
to
preempt
you
on
this,
but
John
and
I
had
a
good
call.
Yesterday
with
some
folks
from
the
University
of
Technology
Sydney,
there's
some
very
interesting
collaboration.
Developing
there
there's
a
number
of
different
avenues
that
they're
thinking
about
working
with
us,
one
of
which
is
that
they
have
a
very
nice
HP.
A
What
is
at
the
4200
series,
one
of
those
high-end
3d
printers
that
prints
in
a
nylon
based
material
and
they're
able
to
do
a
fairly
sizable.
You
know
quantity
of
part
production,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
is
that
they
could
help
to
kind
of
print
parts
off,
and
you
know
for
the
different
designs
and
various
sizes
and
send
them
to
us
unassembled
for
use
in
the
sort
of
hand,
assembly
events
that
we
do
because
sometimes
it's
hard
to
get
those
devices
printed
in
time.
A
For
those
events,
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
exploring
with
them
they're
also
looking
into
getting
another
high-end
printer
similar
to
this
one,
but
which
has
full
color
capabilities.
So
there
was
discussion
about
the
ability
to
produce
devices
that
actually
have
very
realistic
skin
tone,
coloring
and
textures.
A
That
has
some
interesting
potential
as
well
they're,
also
looking
at
the
several
other
possible
opportunities
such
as
helping
us
with
you
know,
infrastructure,
related
initiatives
and
development,
stuff,
possibly
and
other
other
ways
that
they
can
kind
of
get
involved
with
with
the
community,
so
we'll
be
following
up
with
them.
But
it
was
a
great
discussion
there.
A
They
have
a
nice
sort
of
nonprofit
group
and
are
just
anxious
to
get
involved
and
help
us
I
also
am
printing
right
now,
the
final
version,
hopefully
the
final
version
of
the
custom
device
that
we've
been
working
on
for
my
recipient
Ralph
with
Cook
County
Health.
So
that's
printing,
now
Jake
the
volunteer
who's
been
doing
the
3d
modeling
for
us
he's
just
done
phenomenal
work.
He
really
has
been
a
tremendous
asset
for
us,
so
he
helped
too
based
on
our
testing
last
time.
A
As
most
of
you
are
probably
already
aware,
I
did
record
most
of
the
sessions
at
E
naval,
con
and
I've
already
posted
all
those
videos
on
the
enable
hub,
they're,
also
on
enabling
the
future,
and
so,
if
any
of
you
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
check
those
out.
There's
some
really
nice
sessions
and
all
those
videos
are,
are
up
there
and
available
to
watch.
So
that's
my
report
over
to
you,
John.
G
G
They're
gonna,
be
showing
a
raptor
and
probably
that
hotels,
flexi
ish
hand
which
we
saw
knocking
about
it
and
enable
comm
and
I'm
hoping
to
parlay
that
into
a
donation
or
a
relationship
as
well.
I'll
be
talking
to
them
later
today
and
that's
hand
by
the
way,
is,
is
gorgeous
and
is
the
most
functional
flexi
hand.
I
have
seen
the
design
is
not
online
anywhere.
That
I
can
find.
This
website
says
that
all
of
his
designs
are
open-source,
so
that
people
can
do
it.
They
won't
with
them
I've
written
to
him.
G
I
haven't
heard
from
him.
If
anyone
has
a
line
on
that,
but
they'll
ask
him
to
check
his
email
and
respond,
but
this
is
this
is
going
forward
in
what
I
believe
is
good
faith
on
all
parties.
We've
also
had
inquiries
recently
from
Dubai
we've
been
out
there
twice
some
years
ago,
but
apparently
there
they
are
again
interested
in
doing
some
work.
G
There's
a
like-minded
organization
and
personing
midea
Hassan,
who
runs
an
Innovation
Center
there
and
the
bed's
coming
and
then
skip
and
I
released
our
moto
gripper
and
are
trying
to
move
on
to
other
things,
but
in
truth,
they're,
just
old
switches,
things
that
are
now
possible.
Now
that
we've
released
version
1.
So
that's
our
report.
A
Very
impressive
design
by
the
way
I
really
like
the
Moto,
gripper,
alright
I,
think,
let's
see
yeah
I,
think
that's!
That's
everyone,
that's
here,
so
we
can
move
into
our
agenda.
We're
going
to
agenda
2
today
for
those
of
you
in
the
notes.
You'll
have
to
scroll
down
so
I
figured
we'd.
Do
a
quick,
enable
Khan
recap:
John
just
touched
on
a
little
bit
of
that
as
I
mentioned,
videos
are
up.
It
was
really
nice
to
see
everybody
there.
I
know.
A
Jen
is
working
on
writing
up
a
blog
post
which
might
be
out
today
I'm,
not
sure
she's
a
little
under
the
weather,
but
she's
working
on
her
right
up
by
the
way
she
is
trying
to
gather
you
know,
quotes
and
feedback,
so
I
think
Bob
and
I
have
already
gotten
back
to
her
with
some
comments,
but
Ben
John.
Maybe
you
guys
could
send
her
a
quick
email
today.
If
you
get
a
chance
just
any
kind
of
you.
A
Have
you
excellent?
Thank
you,
so
any
any
kind
of
thoughts
comments
that
you
have
for
her
would
be
great
she's
trying
to
gather
quotes
from
people
that
were
there
I,
don't
know
unless
anybody
has
anything
else
to
talk
about
from
your
naval
Khan
we'll
move
on
okay,
so
categorizing
enable
designs
and
chapters.
This
is
a
topic
that
kind
of
got
pushed
the
last
two
sessions
because
we
ran
out
of
time.
So
Bob
took
the
first
step
with
this.
A
A
Ben
was
then
working
on
the
next
step
of
that
which
is
to
put
together
some
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
visual
system
of
icons
or
identifier,
is
to
go
along
with
that,
something
that
we
could
put.
You
know
kind
of
a
graphic
representation
to
go
along
with
those
different
ratings,
and
so
he
put
together
the
document
that
I
linked
here
for
discussion.
If
you
guys
want
to
pull
that
up
on
your
end
and
so
Ben,
maybe
you
want
to
kind
of
talk
us
through
this
and
we
can.
B
The
blue
ones
are
suggested
by
John,
so
do
they
have
a
hug
page
or
the
print
pile
shared
and
what's
the
status
and
the
licensing
also
that
I
suggested
in
there
as
well
process
documentation
a
two-dose
assessment.
There's
things
that
have
been
connected
to
chapters
the
Pasig,
a
verified
print
so
trying
to
take
all
these
different
criteria
for
evaluation
and
thinking
about
icons.
I
thought
we
might
build
a
toilet
down
to
just
three
icon,
so
Commons
adaptability
and
exploration.
B
A
So
I'll,
just
I'll
show
just
a
thought:
I
mean
because
I've
already
been
through
this
and
and
I'll
just
share
my
initial
impressions
for
what
it's
worth.
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
do
here,
I
personally,
find
it
a
little
bit
confusing
and
a
little
bit
counterintuitive
to
try
to
blend
the
devices
evaluations
with
the
chapters
evaluations.
I
mean
I,
like
the
in
theory,
I
like
the
principle
of
kind
of
trying
to
unify
things
and
bring
things
together
like
that,
but
in
this
case
I
kind
of
feel
like
these
are
separate
things.
A
I
mean
you
can
certainly
draw
parallels
like
you
did
here
in
terms
of
maturity,
and
you
know,
potentially
you
know
popularity
but
I,
don't
know
to
me.
I
kind
of
feel
like
these
are
maybe
two
separate
things
where
at
least
what
I
had
initially
had
in
mind
was
kind
of
just
taking
what
Bob
did
I
mean.
He
I
think
he
provided
some
pretty
clear
categorizations
in
terms
of
maturity,
popularity,
grip,
strength,
cost
difficulty.
What
I
was
kind
of
thinking
is
that
we
would
just
do
a
a
simple
graphical
icon
to
represent
those
exact
categories.
A
So
there
would
be
one
icon
to
represent,
you
know,
maturity
and
you
might
have
you
know
it
would
be.
Maybe
one
or
five
of
those
you
know,
or
maybe
it
would
be,
the
icon
itself.
That
represents
the
level
and
then
a
separate
icon
to
represent
popularity
and
another
icon
to
represent
grips
grip
strength.
So
at
least
that's
what
I
had
in
mind
was
something
that
would
simply
take
what
Bob
built
and
simply
provide
a
graphical
representation
for
each
of
those.
D
First
of
all,
I
don't
understand
the
word
to
exploration,
I,
don't
know
what
that
means,
but
that
aside,
it
appears
to
me
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
tortured
attempt
to
to
consolidate
all
these
when
I
don't
see
the
benefits
of
consolidation,
but
you
know
that
please
don't
take
those
criticism.
It's
just
my
impression.
It's.
B
Yeah
for
people
that
haven't
eaten
your
spreadsheet,
I
linked
it
into
the
note.
So
the
original
spreadsheet
look
at
I
guess
the
the
idea
was
that
right
now,
we've
got
these
five
criteria,
but
that'll,
probably
change
John
has
some
additional
criteria
that
he
had
in
there
and,
if
we're
adding
in
a
new
icon
for
each
criteria
that
we
come
up
with
it
sort
of.
Is
this
extending
on
project
of
doing
these
icons
one
way
of
working
around?
B
That
is
to
think
well,
what
are
these
icons
stand
for
and
having
a
couple
different
categories
and
then,
if
we
do
come
up
with
new
criteria
that
we
want
to
evaluate
the
devices
on,
we
can
put
them
into
one
of
those
categories,
but
we
don't
need
to
make
a
new
icon.
It's
just
a
new
sort
of
sub
line
for
one
of
the
same
categories
of
evaluation.
Well,.
D
B
Lawyers,
you
know
right,
it
wasn't
saying
that
they
would
be
interconnected
in
terms
of
evaluation,
but
this
this
document
was
just
looking
at
icons,
so
the
idea
was
to
originally
make
five
icons
and
what
John
and
I
had
talked
about
was
well
what,
if
we
could
create
some
icons
that
we
could
use
to
evaluate
more
than
just
the
devices
and
again
it's
it's
looking
at.
Instead
of
the
specifics,
like
grip
string,
it's
looking
at
sort
of
one
step
back.
What's
the
subject
of
X
yeah.
B
A
Kind
of
I
think
you
kind
of
lose
something
in
that,
though,
about
I
mean
I.
Think
grip
strength
is
a
very
important
measure,
very
specifically
when
you're
looking
at,
which
enable
device
am
I
going
to
make
for
somebody
I
think
cost
vanity.
Riyals
is
a
very
important
metric.
I
think
the
difficulty
of
assembly
is
a
very
important
metric
and
to
kind
of
group
those
together
into
one.
You
know,
representation
I,
think
you
kind
of
lose
something
then
in
not
separating
those
out
well.
B
They
still
would
be
separated
out.
It's
just
saying
in
terms
of
icons,
it's
saying
you
know
for
basically,
you
know
the
material
side
of
our
evaluations.
We
have
grip,
strength,
cost
materials
and
difficulty
for
print
than
assembly,
so
those
three
things
would
be
under
the
same
category
and
then,
if
we
added
other
things
in
there
like
a
materials
assessment,
that
would
be
something
that
we
could
just
add
into
the
same
category.
The
same
idea
with
adaptability
or.
A
If
you're
saying,
if
you're
saying
that,
that
category
would
have
a
single
graphical
representation,
that's
what
I
struggle
with,
because
those
things
don't
go
along
with
each
other
I
mean
just
you
know
something
might
have
a
really
good
grip
strength
and
a
low
cost
of
materials.
But
a
very
high
difficulty
or
vice-versa
I
mean
these
things.
Don't
necessarily
correspond
to
one
another
and.
F
B
Right
so
it's
it's
just
saying
you,
you
would
be
evaluating
it
individually
and
all
these
different
things
just
like
what
we're
all
talking
about
doing
before,
but
the
ideas
in
terms
of
icons,
instead
of
having
sort
of
this
endless
list
of
icons
that
would
come
up
based
on
you,
know
new
ways
of
evaluating
the
different
devices.
We
could
basically
say
well
what
are
the
main
things
that
we're
looking
at
you're
just
in
terms
of
icons
that
have
three
categories,
but
then.
G
G
D
A
Think
those
really
kind
of
capture
the
key
points
that
would
go
into
deciding
is
this
a
device
I
want
to
make
and
I
think
that
was.
Our
intent
here
is
to
try
to
help
guide
people.
To
is
this
a
design
that
I
want
to
take
on,
and
so
I
would
are
just
to
just
at
least
as
a
starting
point:
stick
with
the
design
that
Bob
came
up
with
and
simply
come
up
with
a
an
iconic
representation
for
each
of
those.
Five
criteria
that
have
been
laid
out.
I
would
have
asked.
A
B
Let's
consider
the
additions
that
John
had
suggested
and
see.
Do
we
want
to
add
those
in
and
as
an
addition
for
the
five
also
I
guess
in
terms
of
what
I
was
imagining
or
how
to
use
this
into
a
design
system?
The
document
that
that
created
the
spreadsheet,
which
I
linked
into
the
notes,
it's
a
really
great
list
for
people
to
look
at
the
details.
But
when
we
are
creating
these,
you
know
sort
of
visualizations.
B
B
B
They
do
it
with
fabric,
sometimes
they'll
be
a
brand
and
then
you'll
see
underneath
the
article
of
clothing
will
have
these
different
icons
in
different
colors
it'd
be
great
to
have
something
like
that
that
we
can
really
use
to
simplify
and
to
give
people
a
visualization
of
of
all
the
details.
Well,.
A
I
think
I
think
what
might
be
helpful
Ben
is
if
we,
if
I,
might
suggest
that
we,
at
least
for
the
time
being
take
chapters
and
set
that
aside,
let's
focus
on
devices
and
if
you
take
what
you're
proposing,
if
you
could
put
together
a
mock-up
to
help
us
see
visually
what
you
are
proposing.
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful.
D
No
forward
here
to,
in
my
brief
time,
with
enable
I
think
I'm
already
seeing
a
little
bit
of
a
change,
and
that
is
that
there's
a
stable
of
proven
existing
simple
devices
and
it
almost
seems
like
in
over
the
last
year,
there's
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
innovation,
proliferation
of
ideas.
There's
many
different
designs
out
there,
not
everyone's
gonna
make
the
matrix,
and-
and
you
know
what
makes
the
commute
what
comes
into
common
usage
in
the
community
John
mentioned.
You
know
that
this
Australian
hand
the
Jeremy
and
I
saw.
D
Maybe
you
did
to
been
at
the
naval
con.
It's
a
fantastic
looking
hand
and
I
think
it's
a
much
improved
flexing
and
we
want
to
get
that
into
the
community,
because
some
of
us
think
hey.
That
could
be
good.
But
there's
probably
you
know,
Nate's
working
on
a
lot
of
things.
Eric
is
working
on
things,
so
there's
good
all
these
things
floating
around
I'm,
not
sure
every
one
of
them
has
to
make
it
into
a
matrix
and
therefore,
when
I
look
at
print
files
shared
well.
G
Well,
so
you
know
I
think
actually
the
mandate,
it
is
not
is
not
clear.
I
think
you
and
Jeremy
seem
to
have
a
your
mandate
is
I
want
a
simple
display
that
will
take
the
most
that
this,
the
small
set
of
sort
of
recommended
designs
and
display
them
in
a
way
that
people
can
at
a
glance
pick
the
right
one.
A
A
It,
oh
okay,
sorry
about
that.
I
thought
that
was
that
was
Ben,
so
I'm
gonna
share
real
quick
here
just
to
pull
up.
So
this
is
first
well.
This
is
the
matrix
in
the
hub,
but
what
I
was
going
to
show
is
currently
in
the
devices
space.
Just
to
what
John
is
saying:
we've
got
kind
of
the
getting
started
information
up
here
then
we've
got
our
hand
designs.
Our
arm
designs,
our
other
designs,
but
we
do
have
this
other
category
down
here.
A
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
kind
of
use
that
as
a
template,
so
that,
even
when
you
post
an
experimental
design,
it's
the
same
information
laid
out
in
the
same
way.
It
would
just
appear
down
here
as
soon
as
that
design
is
kind
of
tested
and
we
have
documentation,
and
it's
it's
met
kind
of
some
of
these
maturity.
Metrics
that
we've
established,
all
we
have
to
do
is
drag
it
up
into
the
appropriate
category.
It's
no
longer
experimentally,
then
goes
under
hand,
designs
or
arm
designs.
So
it
makes
for
a
very
easy.
G
A
Right
so
when
you
click
on
this,
I
would
like
the
very
first
thing
you
see
up
here
to
be
kind
of
a
graphical
summary
of
those
different
criteria.
We've
talked
about
some
representation
of
maturity,
of
grip,
strength
of
cost
and
difficulty,
etc.
Right
up
top
even
ahead
of
the
picture.
Even
and
then
all
the
rest
of
this
information
would
follow
so.
B
One
once
added
variable
into
this
bit
I
think
came
up
the
first
time.
We
talked
about
a
brief
route,
but
I
think
would
be
really
exciting
to
pursue
right
now,
we've
got
Bob
doing
that
evaluations
at
night.
I
think
you
did
a
really
great
job
and
in
structuring
is
this
something
that
we
want
to
open
up
to
the
community.
So
different
people
can
basically
well.
A
We
already
we
already
have
it's
not
well
promoted,
but
if
you
scroll
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
matrix
that
I
put
up
here
to
share
your
feedback
click
here,
there
is
a
Google
forum
where
people
can
submit
their
feedback
about
a
particular
design
using
all
those
same
types
of
metrics
and
share
other
notes.
So
we
have
that
forum
to
my
knowledge.
Nobody
has
submitted
it
yet,
but
again
we
haven't
promoted
this.
We
haven't
really
let
the
community
know
about
this,
but.
G
Then
the
second
towards
that
I,
inserted
I,
wasn't
it
frankly
looking
carefully
at
what
Jeremy
has
done
here,
which
I
think
is
a
really
good
framework
the
license
and
the
other
things
that
I
inserted
are
gonna
want
to
be
on
that
informational
page,
but
they
don't
need
icons.
All
the
things
that
they're
asking
for
icons
are
things
that
have
got
some
kind
of
an
ordinal
or
quantitative
scale.
G
You
know
more
or
less
mature,
more
or
less,
etc,
etc,
or
so
we're
just
looking
for
a
way
of
capturing
at
a
glance
how
mature,
how
robust,
etc,
etc.
For
that
age,
that
will
set
the
stage
for
doing
similar
things
for
chapters
or
other
things.
But
right
now,
we've
got
this
I
think
these
guys
have
have
a
clear
sense
of
a
need
and
a
clear
place.
To
put
it
so
I
grew
Jeremy
that
we
should
start
there.
Okay,.
B
B
A
Think,
that's
you
know,
I
think.
That's
an
important
data
point
I
think
there's
a
question
as
to
whether
or
not
that
needs
its
own
to
John's
point
kind
of
a
quantifiable
category,
I
think
in
our
minds.
This
metric
of
maturity
is
kind
of
a
conglomeration
of
how
well
has
it
been
tested,
along
with
how
good
is
the
documentation
that's
available,
it's
kind
of
all
that
put
together
that
goes
into
the
maturity
rating.
Maybe
that's
not
specific
enough.
I.
D
A
A
D
A
F
Where
it
wasn't
just
how
much
is
it
was
other
other
thing,
so
I
think
it's
really
it's
a
really
interesting
discussion,
but
I
think
actually
some
of
the
user
research.
Well,
the
user
research
that
we're
doing
I
think
will
help
provide
evidence
and
guidance
for
this
conversation,
and
you
know
our
goal
with
this-
is
to
give
the
organization
the
tools
to
allow
us
to
do
these
conversations.
F
A
F
F
But
the
research
is
kind
of
primarily
been
focused
on
setting
users
tasks
and
seeing
how
they
perform
those
tasks
on
the
Omni
enable
website,
as
well
as
you
know,
kind
of
asking
for
more
kind
of
detail,
qualitative
feedback
about
the
type
of
experience
that
they're
looking
for.
So
that's
been
yeah,
that's
been
regarding
I,
don't.
C
Know
if
it
would
help
that
I
share,
so
we
had
started
some
surveys
related
to
the
follow-up.
I
think
that
I
could
share
some
of
the
surveys
that
we
had
also
done
in
terms
of
if
it
might
help
you
and
also
sure
we
recently
just
finished
the
paper
about
where
we're
serving
how
people
across
the
globe
are
doing
follow-up
and
these
different
experiences
yeah
with
3d
printed
devices.
C
What
I
would
say
is
interesting
is
that
we're
seeing
that,
basically,
in
almost
all
parts
of
the
world,
especially
more
in
the
global
south,
they
already
have
in
place
a
follow-up
and
it's
in
piece.
It's
just
the
u.s.
that
doesn't
have
a
good
I'll,
follow
up
for
these
3d
printed
devices,
and
so
I
think.
That's
that
you
can
just
help
us
but
I'll
share.
Then
maybe
the
surveys
that
we
had
already
started
it
might
it
might
feed
into
what
you're
doing
and
I
think
it's
a
great
direction
to
go
into.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
that's
already
one
hypothesis
that
is
emerging
from
this
around
the
shift
towards
relationship
that
we're
trying
to
establish
rather
than
something
transactional,
and
whether
that
relationship
takes
place
between
specified
individuals
who
are
kind
of
Matt
or
whether
it's
a
relationship
with
enable
and
then
the
individuals
are
then
you're
kind
of
providing.
You
know
collaborating
on
a
kind
of
device
by
device
basis,
I
think
that's
something
that
I
think
they'll
probably
be
a
mix
of
those
two
but
yeah.
There's
that's
I,
think
you
know.
F
B
So
in
the
notes,
I
added
the
the
original
diluent
survey
and
then
the
one
that
is
for
the
hybrid
getting
feedback
from
Jen
and
John,
and
everybody
is
that
for
that.
So
maybe
one
question
in
terms
of
next
steps.
Well,
what
do
we
need
to
do
net
to
make
this
survey
right
primetime?
Do
you
guys
have
any
suggestions
for
the
the
current
edition?
Did
we
jump
the
gun
a
little
bit
too
much?
What
do
we
want
to
do
before
we
I
mean
I.
C
Could
share
the
survey
that
we
had
already
done
and
you
could
see
like
if
there
are
questions
that
you
want
to
integrate
or
like
which,
which
wishes
might
make
sense
to
integrate?
Another
thing
was
that
we
also
realized
that
for
a
lot
of
recipients,
it's
actually
pretty
hard
to
do
surveys
because
they
have
limited
digital
skills,
and
so
we
had
a
lot
of
limitations,
actually
getting
recipients
to
do
the
surveys.
C
F
F
G
G
Do
say
it
so
yeah
all
right,
I'll
just
say
it.
I
have
often
had
the
feeling
that
that
one
of
the
things
that
happens
is
that
we
end
up
ruining
a
really
good
education
program
for
the
consultants
yeah,
who
end
up
being
enriched
in
it,
enriched
in
enlightening
the
clients
themselves,
because
they're
not
familiar
with
the
process.
You
know
often
in
the
dark
about
what
the
process
is.
You
know
don't
benefit
from
the
incremental
instance
that
you
guys
are
gather,
and
then
they
get
a
final
deliverable
with.
G
F
We're
very
so
so
on
our
end
goal
with
this
is
100%
that
this
is
about
yeah.
This
is
about
a
process
that
should
be
you
know,
replicable
by
the
enables
game.
This
is
not
about
us
easier
showing
how
I
am
we
are
by
doing
some
sort
of
by
doing
a
complex
process.
That,
then,
is
not
so
this
is
dance
on
the
project
for
four
weeks.
F
We
recognize
that
the
kind
of
the
first
go-around
of
it
that
we
suggest-
and
you
know
our
first
kind
of
process-
won't
necessarily
exactly
mesh
with
how
the
organization
works,
and
so
you
know
in
the
same
way
that
we
had
that
type
long
survey
and
then
been
adapted
it
into
a
Google.
That's
great,
like
we
want
to
create
like
our
end
goal
here
is
not
a
deliverable.
Our
end
goal
is,
you
know,
is
empowering
the
organization
and
I
think
that's
I,
think
it's
it's
great
feedback
and
it
is
definitely
symptomatic
cause.
G
G
This
this
looks
responsive
to
my
question.
/
critique
and
I
will
admit
that
I
didn't
open
the
email
and
so
I
didn't
see
it,
but
even
if
I
had
it
would
probably
be
a
good
idea,
perhaps
for
Dan
now
or
next
week
to
step
us
through
this
with.
You
know,
updates
because
I
guess
it'll
be
week,
2
next
week,
yeah,
so
that
we
can
understand
the
process
and
the
architecture
of
your
of
what
you're
doing
yeah.
G
A
F
E
And
say
we
look
to
work
towards
and
he's
quite
ambitious
and
producing
I
mean
is
quite
high
and
I
am
doing
mine
and
I've
done
it
before,
though,
as
as
I
had
mentioned
before
a
degree
of
flexibility
approach,
and
so
what
we're
looking
today
is
Monday
sort
of
having
this
trying
and
sub
session,
where
we
work
out
what
the
parity
in
the
scope
of
what
we
want
to
do
it's
going
to
be.
So
we
have
a
look
at
a
few
assumptions
that
we
might
have
with
a
certain
topic
weave.
My
way
to
the
previous
slide.
E
I
had
showed
how
we
were
lining
our
focus
for
each
week
and
I'd
come
into
that
session
with
a
few
assumptions
that
I
might
have
and
which
I'd
shared
like
the
deck
as
well.
We
can
jump
into
in
a
short
moment
that
basically
decide
upon
what
priorities
you
want
to
focus
on
that
week
and
lighten
with
that,
and
once
we
define
that
scope
and
go
into
it
in
a
bit
more
detail
and
idea
around
what
we
would
look
to
test
with
users
and
play
in
front
of
people
and
get
insights
and
build
evidence
on.
E
E
Each
week
is
iterate
on
an
app
and
open
flex
times
what
we
do,
and
so,
if
I
go
back
to
the
previous
ones,
we
have
week.
One
I
wanted
to
get
a
quick
idea
of
context,
attitudes
and
behaviors
of
looking
to
a
parent
or
recipient,
and
that
really
was
about
just
understanding
what
challenges
they
might
face
in
their
day
to
day
what
their
goals
and
needs
are
and
just
get
a
bit
more
of
my
dear
context
of
how
what
they
prioritize
is
important
to
them
in
their
day
to
day
and
what
resources
they
might
use.
F
E
E
Doing
it
week
and
why
that
is
usual
is
for
when
we
do
have
these
conversations
on
how
you
design
something
or
how
our
users
we
want
to
interact
with
it,
you're
able
to
use
it
as
a
tool
to
go
back
to
and
look
at
and
see
what
the
priorities
are
and
it's
how
what
is
important
to
them.
So,
the
week
two
been
going
through,
this
video
actually
was
nicking
out
impressions
and
the
initial
access
to
AWC,
which
I
discussed
the
rape,
was
quite
important.
E
There
was
why
I've
called
an
observed,
interaction,
high-end
and
southern
way
of
cleaning,
I
think
where
we
actually
talk
to
users
and
get
them
carrying
out
a
few
scenarios,
not
the
navel
site
and
then
I
jump
into
that
in
just
a
second
on
sort
of
the
approach.
For
that
and
then
I'll
build
out
what
those
insights
are
and
isn't,
hopefully,
presently
next
week
as
well,
weekly
would
look
at
login
flow
and
creating
a
case
of
what
users
have
to
do
to
go
into
that,
how
receptive
they
are
to
leaving
that
amount
of
information.
F
E
F
I
mean
when
I'm
referring
to
this
this
we
I
mentioned
a
while
ago,
and
it's
gone
a
lot
further
than
I
had
hoped,
but
Dobby
a
really
interested
in
this,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
tools
around
its
kind
of
audience:
management,
Williams,
engagement,
stuff,
specific
driver
boards
ewc,
and
they
are
keen
to
use
Jason.
They
they're,
theoretically
they're
going
to
cook.
So
we'll
be
able
to
do
this.
Whether
or
not
a
Dobby.
F
If
a
new
support
this
and
they
provide,
you
know
the
enable
group
enable
as
an
organization
with
the
free
licenses,
which,
theoretically
they
are
going
to
do,
that-
that
kind
of
the
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
here.
So
whether
or
not
this
ends
up
being
the
kind
of
the
Adobe
version
of
this
or
just
a
version
of
this,
we
can
build
an
on
Adobe
version
of
it
as
well.
F
But
I
hope,
that's
I,
hope
that's
kind
of
helpful.
What
I
would
say:
Jeremy
I
saw
that
Jen
was
talking
about
making
updates
to
ETF
the
the
ETF
is
perform
as
part
of
where
we're
doing
the
kind
of
research
now
in
terms
of
those
first
impressions
and
I
think
it's
great
to
be
able
to
speed
in
and
prototyping
stuff
into
that
into
that,
because
yeah
I
think
I
think
we've
got
some
useful
insights
and
so
we'd
love
to
feed
into
that,
so
that
yeah.
A
Without
a
doubt,
we
look
forward
to
incorporating
your
input
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
difference
in
terms
of
kind
of
the
way
things
move
in
the
enable
community
versus
the
way
things
move
in
a
large
consulting
firm
yeah.
So
we
we
have
a
you
know.
Most
of
us,
don't
have
you
know
40
50
hours
a
week
to
work
on
this
stuff.
A
We
have
very
limited
time
we
tend
to
you
know
we
tend
to
kind
of
dive
right
in
and
just
kind
of
do
things
so
we're
going
to
proceed
with
what
we're
doing,
I
think
the
changes
that
we're
making
our
good
changes
and
will
move
us
in
the
right
direction.
But
whenever
you
do
have
your
guidance
ready
for
us
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
go
back
and
make
further
changes,
and
accordingly.
F
A
F
F
I
just
think
it's
a
case
of
just
us,
taking
the
time
to
to
figure
that
out,
but
I
think
that
will
be
if
we
do
take
this
approach
of
the
ideation
prototype
being
testing
with
the
users
and
then
evaluation
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
way
to
kind
of
structure.
The
development
of
things
like
the
album
and
the
website,
and
actually,
when
actually
add,
I,
think
it
won't
add
overhead
to
the
work
that
we're
doing.
If
it's
kind
of
done
in
the
right
way,
I
think
it
will
actually
reduce
unnecessary
work.
B
F
B
G
That
would
be
great.
That
would
be
great.
This
weekly
cadence
and
the
work
plan
that
you've
just
exposed
makes
things
a
lot
clearer
to
me
and
in
particular
the
notion
that
ewc,
which
we
ever
resolved
and
I'd
forgotten,
is
currently
currently
the
sort
of
the
the
Normandy
of
this
particular
operation,
yeah,
making
it
invisible
as
I
understand
it
right
now,
these
this
weekly
cycle,
the
only
visibility
into
it
we
get,
are
these
SPC
meetings.
G
You
suggest
that
we
all
get
together
on
Monday,
but
we
all
interviewed
you
guys,
not
us,
so
anything
you
can
do
to
help
us
understand
how
this
goes
and
to
be
able
to
see
it
and
share
with
the
insights
as
they
emerge
would
help
us
understand.
You
call
an
insight
what
you
call
a
hypothesis,
yet
your
prototypes
look
like
what
these
tasks
are
like
so
on.
All
of
that
is
is
not
something
we
can
just
take
for
granted.
We
don't
know
what
you.