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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - May 6, 2022
Description
This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
The notes/agenda document can be found here: https://bit.ly/e-nable-town-hall-notes
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A
Okay,
we
are
live
now,
so
welcome
to
anyone
watching
and
we're
gonna
try
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
youtube
chat
which
you
will
finally
share.
My
screen.
A
Our
youtube
chat
is
in
the
lower
right
corner
and
notes
on
the
left
side
here.
So
keep
an
eye
on
that
chat.
Let
me
know
if
I
don't,
if
you
see
something
top
up
there,
that
I
don't
notice
and
go
ahead
and
get
started
here.
So,
let's
see
who
is
able
to
help
with
notes
today.
A
Okay,
ben's
got
it.
We've
got
some
of
the
usual
folks
here,
but
we
do
have
a
new
attendee
with
us.
I
want
to
introduce
dr
rick
williams
and
before
I
have
him
introduce
himself,
let
me
explain
that
rick
has
been
generous
enough
to
take
over
several
of
the
responsibilities
that
bob
rieger
is
stepping
away
from,
including
managing
our
our
help
desk.
A
All
the
tickets
coming
in
and
answering
all
the
questions
that
come
in
through
the
help
desk
he's
also
reviewing
all
the
badge
requests
that
are
coming
in
and
handling
those
badge
requests
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
some
chapter
related
stuff
as
well.
So
first,
I
just
want
to
say
rick.
Thank
you
so
much
for
stepping
in
and
all
the
work
that
you're
doing,
and
maybe
we
could
just
have
you
give
a
quick
introduction
and
a
little
background
on
yourself.
Please.
B
Yeah,
certainly
I
I've
been
I've
been
watching
and
and
and
somewhat
involved
with
enable
over
the
years
and
and
love
love
the
work
you
guys
do,
we've
done
quite
a
few
builds
of
our
own
we've
posted
some
of
them
on
on
enable
I
I'm
very
tickled
to
see
mr
buchanan
there.
I'm
a
huge
huge
fan
of.
A
His
yes
glad
he
made
it
we'll
be
allocating
all
the
entire
session
today
to
you.
So
we're
just
going
to
cover
a
couple
of
action
items
here,
jack
and
then
we'll
get
over
to
you
so
rick
anything
else.
You
want
to
share.
B
Oh
no
just
just
happy
to
happy
to
be
here
and,
and
thank
you
guys
for
all
the
support
over
the
years,
yeah
we're
thrilled.
What
is
your
background?
My
phd
is
in
computer
science
and
engineering.
I
I
was
a
staff
phd
for
hitachi
building,
mainframes
and
super
computers
and.
A
So
lucky
to
find
you
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
hope
to
have
you
with
us
and
he's
going
forward
and,
as
I
said,
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
a
couple
of
quick
things
here
that
we
usually
do
at
the
beginning,
our
action
items
and
a
couple
of
other
details
and
then
we'll
leave
the
rest
of
the
session
to
to
jack
to
share
the
the
koaw
3.0,
which
I'm
very
excited
to
see
in
here
about
so
action
items.
We
only
have
a
couple
right
now.
A
One
of
them
is
on
hold
for
me.
Dealing
with
this
matching
platform
needs
analysis.
We
do
have
a
positive
response
from
our
friends
at
deloitte
uk
saying
that
they
are
interested
they're,
just
trying
to
verify
that
they
have
somebody
available.
Who
could
take
this
on
so
I'm
waiting
to
hear
back,
but
they
are
interested
in
helping
out
with
this.
So
that's
a
very
exciting
development.
Hopefully
we'll
have
some
movement
there.
Soon,
john
and
ben
are
still
working
on
developing
our
listings
on
the
handshake
platform
for
getting
interns
through
colleges.
A
Last
I
heard
ian
roy
was
going
to
help
you
guys
kind
of
improve
how
we're
using
that
platform.
Has
there
been
any
further
contact
on
that
end
or
any
discussions
there.
B
One
development
is
that
yesterday
brandeis
reached
out
to
see
whether
we
were
interested
in
interns
for
the
fall.
I
didn't
respond
directly.
I
forwarded
to
ian
who's
likely
to
be
the
quarterback
on
that,
so
we're
ranching
along
on
this.
A
Good,
okay,
I'm
gonna
skip
the
other
ones
that
are
kind
of
on
hold
for
now.
Today,
of
course,
is
the
special
presentation.
I
never
updated
the
date,
but
this
is
going
to
be
today
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
the
koa
three
real
quickly,
we'll
look
at
our
metrics.
Nothing
really
stands
out
here,
as
out
of
the
ordinary,
still
have
a
very
healthy
balance
in
the
enable
fund,
as
you
can
see,
so
we
are
looking
for
good
projects
that
can
benefit
the
community.
A
There
is
funding
available
and
the
only
noteworthy
post
that
I
wanted
to
share
from
the
hub
this
week
is
from
a
a
new
member
dan
godfrey
who's,
an
orthodontic
dental
technician
and
he
developed
a
device.
It's
always
kind
of
cool.
When
we
see
assistive
devices
that
are
not,
you
know
prosthetics,
so
he
has
one
here
that
he's
developed
for
people,
patients
that
have
limited
mouth
opening
and
it's
called
a
trismus
screw.
A
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
I'm
pronouncing
that
right
anyway,
he
came
up
with
a
3d
printable
design
for
that
and
is
asking
you
know
if
we
know
of
a
good,
reputable
organization
or
website
to
host
you
know:
non-hand
related
medical
files
for
open
source.
So
there's
some
good
comments,
but
just
this
morning
when
I
saw
this,
I
pointed
him
to
the
nih
3d
print
exchange,
which
I
didn't
see.
Anybody
else
mentioning
seems
like
a
perfect
fit
for
him,
so
indeed
yeah
anyone
else
have
anything.
A
Thanks
for
sharing
that-
and
it's
always
wonderful
to
see
other
types
of
assistive
tech,
besides
the
hands
and
arms
that
we
do
mostly.
So
that's
that's
great
thanks
for
sharing
that
and
with
that,
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
touch
on
upcoming
events
and
then
we'll
hand
it
over
to
jack.
So
we
have
the
updated
listing
for
may.
Thank
you
for
doing
this
ben
by
the
way.
Just
as
a
note
when
we
do
those
monthly
updates,
we
need
to
remember
to
update
this
page
here.
A
This
one
was
actually
still
set
on
march,
so
I
updated
it
and
put
the
new
new
schedule
in
here,
but
we
always
have
to
remember
to
go
in
and
update
this.
This
custom
page
here
this
this
month's
enable
meetings
so
for
the
main
meeting.
B
B
Sure
so
monday
we
had
the
enable
education
meeting
with
tanya
lurch,
which
was
great.
She
had
a
lot
to
share
about
her
curriculum
and
collaborations
and
some
some
new
resources
that,
were
you
know,
frankly,
things
that
I
think
a
lot
of
other
chapters
could
could
use,
which
is
great.
B
So
today,
after
the
town
hall
meeting,
we
have
the
bionic
design
group
meeting
with
esteban
rojas
from
kumanos
3d
they've
been
working
on
bionics
for
several
years,
so
they've
got
a
new
model
that
they're
working
on
and
also
some
some
pretty
unique
outreach
programs
in
colombia
going
out
into
the
countryside,
which
I'm
sure
they'll
touch
on.
B
We've
got
a
chapter
leaders
meeting
taking
a
step
from
the
last
discussion
about
what's
going
on
in
ukraine.
I
don't
know
john,
do
you
want
to
touch
on
any
of
that.
A
A
B
Yes,
we
we
had
a
productive
meeting.
A
month
ago,
we
discussed
some
possible
roles
for
enable
our
people
closer
to
the
events
in
ukraine,
we're
going
to
check
with
agencies
that
they
knew
of
to
see
if
we
had
field
partners,
and
we
will
regroup
and
discuss
that
and
try
to
see
if
there's
a
way,
we
can
be
helpful
or
merely
sympathetic
as
long
as
we
don't
cause
any
trouble.
B
And
friday
may
13th,
jack
buchanan
will
join
us
again
to
to
do
more
of
a
deep
dive
into
the
koala
3.
So
some
of
the
things
that
are
identified
today
that
are
questions
that
people
are
interested
in,
could
be
good
starting
points
for
the
the
hour-long
focus
follow-up
with
the
jack
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
month.
A
friday
may
20th
john
will
do
a
tour
of
the
new
member
resources
and
orientation
materials
that
we
have,
including
the
new
member
space
and
the
launch
pad
and
we'll
we'll
work
together.
B
A
That's
good
thanks
for
doing
that.
Ben
and
just
I
don't
know
if
we've
talked
about
this
before,
but
now
that
we're
doing,
I
believe
all
of
these
events
are
going
out
via
youtube
live.
Is
that
right?
It's
public,
live
events.
Is
that
how
we're
doing
it
now?
So,
if
you
subscribe
to
our
youtube
channel,
if
you're
not
already,
you
will
get,
you
know,
alerts
and
notifications.
B
That's
a
really
good
point:
jeremy.
I
somehow,
I
guess
maybe
in
the
newsletters
that
fact
should
be
featured
at
the
top
that
yeah.
A
Maybe
maybe
even
maybe
we
should
do
a
graphic
banner
or
something
when
I
do
our
newsletters
and
I
have
a
little
tidbit
that
I
want
to
make
sure
people
see.
I
try
to
do
it
in
like
a
banner
graphic
or
something
instead
of
just
words.
So
maybe
we
should
come
up
with
a
graphic
to
call
attention
to
that.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
doing
all
that
again
ben,
and
I
just
noticed
that
we
have
one
other
new
member
joining
us
that
I
haven't
seen
here
before:
alberto
nevada.
I
don't
know
if
you're
in
a
position
where
you're
able
to
talk
and
introduce
yourself.
If
not
that's
perfectly
okay,
but
are
you
able
to
say
hello.
B
I
yes,
I
can
I
just
yeah
today
my
schedule
was
quite
free,
so
I
I
was
able
to
to
join
the
the
meeting
excellent,
always
following
more
or
less
all
the
activities,
but
I'm
from
italy
and
I'm
in
charge
of
enable.
B
We
are
still
quite
busy
at
this
time
in
particular.
So
for
me
it's
it's
not
simple
to
to
to
attend
to
to
the
the
meetings
yeah.
A
Yeah,
well,
I'm
so
glad
you
were
able
to
join
today
you
definitely
picked
the
right
week.
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
a
great
presentation
today.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
our
special
guest.
Today
stop
my
screen
share
here
and
jack.
If
you're
ready
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
introduce
yourself-
and
I
I
need
to
ask
because
I've
I'm
always
asking
if
I'm
saying
your
name
right,
do
you
go
by
jack
or.
C
Am
I
yeah,
I
generally
go
by
jack,
the
the
preference
if
it's
written,
I
generally
write
the
full
name
but
spoken.
I
really
don't
care.
However,
you
go
either
jack
or
jaclyn,
which
is
sort
of
the
odd
american
pronunciation
of
what
is
essentially
a
french
name
and
how
do.
C
I
don't
know
because
I'm
not
french
at
all,
but
it
was
okay
or
something
like
that.
It's
a
it's
a
it's
a
french
last
name
and
my
father
just
liked
it.
You
know
a
typical
american
story
and
so
growing
up
in
the
us.
I
just
said
jack
one
because
you
know
as
a
five-year-old
kid
that's
what
you
would
say.
Yeah.
A
Could
get
you
in
here?
I
have
loved
the
videos
that
you've
shared
it
just
I,
I
was
blown
away
and
I've
really
been
looking
forward
to
this.
As
I
know
others
have
so.
Thank
you
so
much
for
making
the
time
to
join
us
for
this,
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
you.
You've
got.
You
know
the
the
remaining
time
here
about
45
minutes
to
use
as
you
please,
and
just
if
you
want
to
share
anything.
I
think
you
have
permissions
to
do
so.
It's
over
to
you
awesome.
C
So
what
is
so?
I
was
thinking
more
15
today,
because
absolutely
yeah
whatever
you.
C
We'll
do
sort
of
like
a
quick
overview
and
then
a
a
deep
dive
next
time,
but
I
am
open
for
whatever
the
group
wants
to
do.
Yeah.
A
C
Yeah,
we'll
just
we'll
go
for
it,
so
I'll
just
start
with
sort
of
a
quick
overview
right.
So
I
came
to
enable
in
about
2016
2017
right
as
a
lot
of
people
did
in
who
you
know
you
hear
stories
of
oh
at
least
I
do
when
I'm
when
people
come
to
me
or
whatever.
How
did
you
get
involved?
They
go
well.
C
I
bought
a
3d
printer
and
I
wanted
something
to
do
with
it,
and
so
you,
you
know,
I
started
printing
things
on
3d
printers
and
then
saw
I
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
enable
in
in
the
dc
fair
and
saw
one
said
this
is
really
cool
and
printed
a
few
of
them
and
liked
it
and
got
to
talking
with
john
and
got
to
talking
with
jeff
aaron
stone,
who
I'll
talk
about
some
and
and
then
just
went
from
there
and
then
and
then
just
decided
to
to
try
designing.
C
I
do
have
a
computer
science
background.
That's
my
background.
It's
my
day
job
as
software
engineer
in
college.
I
liked
I
thought
I'd
be
a
sculptor.
It
was
what
I
one
of
the
things
I
thought
I
would
do
is
sort
of
sculpting
computer
science,
sculpting
computer
science
and
my
wise
mom
stepped
in
and
said.
C
Well,
why
don't
you
do
computer
science
it'll,
probably
pay
a
little
better
and
but
point
being
that
I
missed
sculpting
and
doing
this
sort
of
hands-on
design
work
sort
of
allowed
me
to
to
mix
the
two
worlds,
a
lot
better
and
so
that's
sort
of
how
I
came
into
in
the
idea
of
oh.
This
is
really
fun
and
it
really
got
to
do
something
that
I
enjoyed.
C
I
worked
with
jeff
ironstone
on
something
called
the
lionel
hand
back
in
2016,
20
2017-ish,
and
that
was
a
lot
of
fun.
I
learned
a
lot
from
jeff
on
that
first,
first
go-around
on
what
he
wanted.
I
still
work
a
lot
with
jeff
aaronstone.
C
I
can
touch
on
it
if
you
want,
we
have
a
project
that
we
have
been
doing
together
for
three
or
four
years
now
called
the
operation.
Namaste,
there's
a
website
for
that.
It
is
more
about
legs,
prosthetics
and
being
able
to
present
a
way
for
people
to
make
legs
in
the
developing
world.
I've
spoken
with
john
schull
a
little
bit
about
it.
Jeff
as
a
prosthetist
is
more
focused
on
meeting
the
needs
of
prosthetists.
C
So
I
don't
know
that
the
operation
namaste,
how
that
will
cross
over
to
enable
we
sort
of
have
in
our
heads
a
way
that
it
will.
But,
but
I
don't
know
what
that's
going
to
look
like
right
now,
but
the
arm
is
definitely
in
my
mind
as
the
creator
sort
of
an
enable
project.
It's
enable
inspired
and
sort
of
belongs
to
the
enable
open
source
world
as
a
trans-humeral
arm
all
right.
So
that's
enough
background.
C
Unless
anybody
else
wants
to
know
any
more
backstory
just
raise
your
hand
or
or
call
out
and
ask
so
qual
with
three.
So
this
is.
I
have
four
different
prints
here
and
if
I
ever
get
my
videos
finished,
which
I
work
on
from
11
o'clock
at
night
to
12
o'clock
at
night,
I
will
be
able
to
post
them
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
instructional
videos
on
assembly
and
then
another
sort
of
basic
introduction
of
the
arm,
which
is
another
sort
of
five
minute
video.
C
So
for
that
video
I
have
built
four
different
styles.
This
is
the
standard
socket
style
arm.
This
is
the
standard.
What
I
call
the
wrap.
This
is
a
leather
version,
so
this
is
all
leather
right.
I
just
found
that
is
way
more
comfortable,
and
I
I'll
talk
more
about
that.
You
can
do
instead
of
leather.
C
C
I'm
gonna
use
this
one.
I
have
this
one
and
I
have
an
adult
size
socket,
but
I'm
not
gonna
hold
that
one
up
for
this
particular
video,
because
I
can't
seem
to
get
the
distance
right
and
and
probably
this
one.
This
is.
This
is
a
better
example.
So
what
are
the
changes?
I'm
going
to
try
and
go
through
these
changes
and
then
open
it
up,
I'm
just
going
to
hit
the
changes
from
qual,
2
to
2
and
then
ask
the
for
for
questions
or
deep
dive.
C
What
would
people
like
to
know
more
about
so
one
of
the
big
changes
was
the
stringing
of
the
hand.
I
have
a
kwa
woo,
two
handy,
but
if,
if
you
may
have
had
the
koala
too,
you
should
string
the
fingers
up
and
then
back
down
each
finger
right.
I
designed
the
two
that
way
originally,
because
I
wanted
greater
grip
strength.
C
That
was
the
basic
idea
of
it
was
to
improve
grip
strength
by
running
the
wire
up
and
back
in
the
end
of
the
day,
I
did
lots
of
tests
using
the
the
test
that
well,
I'm
gonna
have
a
of
a
brain
escape
here,
but
our
good
friend
at
mount
st
mary's
university,
who
came
up
with
a
sort
of
grip
strength
test
using
the
bulb
for
a
a
pressure
co,
a
cuff
for
blood
pressure
right,
you
just
squeeze
it.
C
You
ball
it
up
and
squeeze
it
and
see
how
much
pressure
you
can
apply
on
the
grip.
It's
a
great
nice
little
grip
strength.
He
came
up
with
and
I
use
it
a
lot
and
after
doing
that
test
and
testing
various
different
things.
The
stringing
just
didn't
make
much
difference
right
and
it
made
the
device
much
more
complicated.
C
The
string
because
I
had
to
have
two
grooves
going
up
and
down
these
different
thicknesses
were
not
wide
enough,
and
so
by
making
a
single
groove,
I
could
make
that
groove
a
lot
bigger,
opening
and
therefore
easier
to
string,
particularly
through
this
center
flange.
I
could
make
that
opening
larger.
I
could
make
these
edge
pieces
here
thicker,
so
this
little
piece
here
used
to
broke
a
lot
on
the
quad
ii.
It's
a
lot
thicker
on
this
kuala
lu3.
C
I
did
have
to
tie
the
strings
off
in
the
end,
but
I
pretty
much
just
took
the
design
straight
from
the
phoenix
right
how
you
would
tie
that
off.
That's
that
works
well
and-
and
so
that's
sort
of
how
I
changed.
The
stringing
made.
Basically
the
string
a
lot
easier,
there's
a
bunch
of
other
little
tweaks
in
the
hand,
but
the
rest
of
it
is
mostly
just
tweaks.
Oh
no,
the
other
big
tweak
was
changing
for
different
types
of
tpu.
C
Printing
tpu
is
not
easy,
it's
very
susceptible
to
the
temperature
of
the
room.
If
you,
if
you
have
a
bowdoin
cable,
if
you
don't
have
a
direct
drive,
it's
difficult
to
push
the
tpu
through
the
bowden
cable.
So
it's
not
an
easy
print.
I
happen
to
have
direct
drive,
a
direct
drive
printer,
I
devoted
just
a
tpu,
so
I
tend
to
just
devote
direct
drive.
So
I
don't
have
trouble
printing
the
various
tpus
I
sort
of
have
a
printer
set
up
just
to
do
it.
C
C
It
took
me
a
while
to
figure
out,
there's
actually
short
a
b
c
and
d
hardness,
but
tpu
is
generally
only
measured
in
short,
a,
but
that
is
something
you
want
to
play.
Pay
close
attention
to,
is
you
want
sure
a
hardness
measurement
and
the
original
carbo2
really
only
worked.
If
you
shore
a
82
which
the
ninjaflex
is
ashore
a
82,
there
are
other
brands.
There
there's
only
a
few
brands
of
the
shore
a82.
C
If
you
used
a
harder
tpu,
which
there
are
more
of
up
into
the
9295,
the
fingers
just
wouldn't
move
that
well
right.
They
were
kind
of
stiff,
because
the
the
tpu
is
stiffer
right.
A
If
you
don't
mind
me
jumping
in
jack,
I,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
unless
they've
changed
it,
I
think
the
ninjaflex
is
an
85
a,
but
the
request
filaflex
is
82a,
so
that
might
be
a
a
better
fit.
You
could.
C
It
could
be,
you
could
be
right
generally,
though,
82
or
85
you're
not
going
to
have
a
problem.
Okay
right.
So
in
that
range
right,
I've
seen
I
had
forgotten
that
ninjaflex
is
85.
Filoflex
is,
I
guess,
82.
C
There
are
some
other
brands,
but
in
that
low
80s
is
the
best
and
you're
going
to
get
the
best
behavior,
but
I
did
change
how
the
the
shape
of
the
fingers
the
shape
of
the
hinges.
So
you
can
go
up
to
about
95,
which
is
a
fairly
popular
tpu,
hardness
and
it'll
still
work.
Okay,
this
particular
child
size
is
printed
in
the
ninjaflex
85
right.
C
All
these
other
hands
every
other
hand,
I'm
gonna
hold
up,
is
printed
in
the
95,
so
is
works
just
as
well,
and
basically
I
just
gave
it
more
space.
I
made
the
hinge.
A
little
thinner
gave
it
more
space
inside
to
twist
and
turn
and
and
was
able
to
make
the
95
work
all
right.
It
took
a
lot
of
sort
of
test
and
eval,
but
it
was
something
I
wanted
to
do,
because
just
a
lot
more
people
were
able
to
print
a
95
92
95
again.
C
There's
someone
sort
of
in
that
range
in
the
in
the
low
to
mid
90s
if
you
get
up
above
95,
you're,
almost
back
to
stiff
plastic
anyway,
there
are
up
in
the
hundreds,
some
others,
but
I
just.
A
Wouldn't
recommend
that
and
I
and
if
you
don't
mind
me
jumping
in
again,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there,
including
myself,
that
use
printers
that
don't
have
the
direct
drive
extruder
that
use
a
bowden
tube
to
feed
the
filament
in,
and
that's
why
this
is
so
important,
because
it's
quite
easy
to
print
to
95a
on
on
machines
like
that.
But
as
you
get
down
into
the
80s,
it
gets
very
challenging
without
a
direct
drive
extruder.
A
C
C
So
I
will
make
a
note
and
and
open
up
the
fingers
and
and
unless
I
have
time
to
sort
of
pull
one
apart,
which
doesn't
take
too
long,
but
but
the
big
thing
I
did
was
was
make
the
the
hinge
thinner
right.
So
that's
that
was
a
straightforward
fix,
but
I
needed
to
give
it
more
space
to
twist.
C
So
if
I
were
to
open
this
finger
up,
there's
more
space
inside
there
before
it
was
kind
of
a
between
the
the
two
fingers
there's
a
little
bit
of
space,
and
so
the
the
tpu
had
say
that
much
space
to
twist
and
by
sort
of
creating
a
larger
cup
on
on
both
sides.
Right,
I
gave
the
the
hinge
more
space
so.
C
Most
everything
is
modeled
in
originally,
I
use
a
bunch
of
modeling
programs.
Okay,.
A
You
don't
have
to
get
into
that
now.
The
only
reason
I'm
asking
is
I'm
wondering
if
for
your
next
for
the
deep
dive
follow-up
session
you're
going
to
do,
I
wonder
if
part
of
that
could
be
actually
pulling
up
your
modeling
program
and
doing
some.
You
know
section
analysis
views
so
we
can
actually
see
inside
and
what
you
did
and
some
of
those
internal
geometries.
C
B
C
Trying
to
type
down
here
at
the
same
time,
yeah
I'll,
have
to
give
that
some
thought
right.
So
as
a
sweeping
overview,
I
generally
sculpt
in
blender,
okay,
so
so
the
original,
the
sort
of
shape
of
the
general
hand,
is
sculpted
in
blender,
the
bulk
of
the
design
work
is
done
in
fusion
360.,
so
I
pull
the
sculpture
into
blender,
particularly
of
the
hand
and
sort
of
carve
it
up
for
lack
of
a
better
word
in
fusion
360.
C
and
then
export
particularly
these
finger
parts
right
out
of
fusion
360
and
then
go
into
openscad
and
openscad
is
what
the
users
download
and
openscad
does
modifications
it.
It
will
also
sort
of
open
up
the
the
hinges
and
does
all
of
the
the
threads
and
bolt
holes,
and
everything
like
that
are
then
carved
into
that.
So.
A
C
Definitely
amazing,
definitely
it's
all
done
with
open
squad
right.
So
so
this
right
and
this
right,
these
bolts
in
the
palm,
are
all
standard,
bolt
sizes,
they're
all
metric,
but
they're
standard
bolt
sizes.
C
So
I
could
put
this
size
bolt
in
this
hand,
if
I
wanted
same
with
the
bolts
at
the
elbow,
anything
that
is
a
bolt
or
a
screw
is
rendered
in
openscad
as
a
standard
metric
bolt
size,
and
I
do
just
stick
to
metric,
forcing
the
u.s
people
to
to
go
to
metric
and
but
but,
as
I
didn't
really
say,
in
the
intro,
but
my
primary
goal
is
overseas
and
that
affects
a
lot
of
my
design
decisions.
C
Let
me
let
me
take
a
little
bit
and
say
that
right
now,
right
for
me,
my
goal,
my
personal,
and
this
is
not
sort
of
something
I
push
on
other
people,
but
my
personal
goal
in
innate
when,
when
I
got
into
enable
by
the
time
I
was
hanging
around
with
everybody
by
2018
and
2019,
was
to
meet
the
need
in
they
have
a
politically
correct
term,
now
called
nips
or
nits,
or
you
know,
low
income
countries
or
something
like
that,
and
just
because
the
need
there
is
great
right.
C
You
have
here
in
the
u.s
the
need
for
a
trans-radial
arm.
You
know,
for
good
reasons,
is
not
that
high
right,
we
don't
have.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
people
getting
arms
amputated.
There
are
still
certain
genetic
diseases.
You
can
be
born
with
that
that
cause
it
to
happen,
but
but
it's
not
a
huge
number,
whereas
if
you
get
into
a
place
like
you
know
our
friends
in
sierra
leone
or
syria,
or
now
in
any
place,
that's
had
a
recent
conflict.
C
You
can
reach
the
hundreds
of
thousands
or
millions
of
recipients,
and
so
it
becomes
a
very
big
number
and
they
don't
have
any
ways
of
getting
a
prosthetic.
So
the
idea
of
a
local
person
or
clinician,
maybe
somebody
has
limited
prosthetic
making
experience,
can
get
online
and
make
a
prosthetic
for
somebody.
That
was
my
goal
or
that
was
when
I
said,
hey,
I'm
going
to
take
this
call.
We
want
to
keep
working
on.
Those
are
the
people
that
I'm
trying
to
meet
now.
C
I
love
the
enable
group-
and
I
want
to
meet
everybody
here,
but
when
I
make
a
design
decision,
the
driving
force
is
what
can
somebody
in
sierra
leone
make
right
if,
if
they
can't
make
it
there,
if
I
have
to
make
a
design
choice,
then
I'm
gonna?
And
if
it's
between
something
that,
oh
you
know,
does
anybody
go
get
this
in
lowe's
or
no?
They
could
never
get
that
in
lowe's
in
sierra
leone.
C
I'm
gonna
go
with
the,
maybe
even
less
less
good
design,
yet
something
they
could
make
in
a
low-income
country
or
near
near
a
near
a
conflict
zone
as
opposed
to
something
that
might
actually
be
even
better,
but
you
could
only
make
in
the
u.s
or
europe
right
so
that
drives
a
lot
of
my
design
decisions.
So
I
try
to
make
all
the
parts
3d
printable,
because
my
base
assumption
is
you've
got
a
3d
printer
there
and
I
try
to
make
all
of
the
parts
easily
accessible
or
something
that
you
can
get.
C
So
it
was
a
big
decision
for
me
to
jump
to
leather
right.
It
was
a.
It
was
a
big
deal
to
go,
you
know,
can
they
get
leather?
And
can
somebody
know
how
to
work?
Leather-
and
you
know
I
just
talked
with
people
in
various
parts
and
yeah
pretty
much.
I
don't
care
where
you
are
they'll
make
there's
somebody
who
makes
a
leather
sandal
right,
no
matter
any
part
of
the
world.
You
go,
there's
guys
walking
around
in
leather
sandals,
so
they
know
how
to
cut
leather
and
work.
C
Leather,
a
lot
better
than
that,
I'm
requiring
here,
so
it
was
sort
of
a
big
decision
on
my
point
on
my
part,
to
sort
of
jump
to
leather,
but
I
really
try
and
minimize
the
bolts
and
screws,
and
things
like
that.
I
want
them
to
be
3d
printable.
The
elbow
bolt,
I
really
do
think
is
3d
printable.
Now
it
works
pretty
well
in
every
one
that
I've
delivered.
I've
used
the
3d
printed
elbow
bolt.
I
still
when
I
deliver
a
hand,
use
a
a
nylon
bolt
for
the
hand.
C
The
new
kuawu
3
3d
printed
bolt
does
work.
It
works
well,
I
probably
would
give
it
five
less
than
ten
insertions
right
on
the
print
3d
printed
bolt
in
the
hand,
and
because
I'm
always
doing
things
like
this,
I
wouldn't
I
do
need
a
lot
more
than
10..
So
I
tend
to
use
the
nylon
bolt
because
I
can
get
them
they're
just
as
light
and
a
lot
more
durable
on
a
hand
that
I
that
I'm
demoing
a
lot
like
this
one.
C
I
actually
use
a
metal
bolt
in
there
because
this
one,
I'm
I
I
sort
of
carry
with
me
and
and
these
two
are
sort
of
my
child
size-
carry
with
me
anywhere,
so
they
actually
have
metal
bolts
in
there
because
I'm
taking
these
apart
very
often
so
now
I
forgot
where
I
was.
C
I
was
talking
about
the
hand
and
the
changes
made
there
and
then
the
wrist
was
a
big
change.
I
I
posted
the
video
on
there
and
I
didn't.
I
didn't
grab
those
parts
again,
but
the
wrist
was
a
lot
of
fun
again
just
to
go
through
it
there's
a
little
button
here.
You
press
the
button
right
and
rotate
the
wrist
and
then
it'll
pop
and
lock
in
that
spot
right.
It's
it's
a
nice
wrist
button.
It
works
at
all
the
sizes.
C
This
is
one
of
those
that
takes
a
lot
a
lot
of
prints.
It
took
me
a
lot
of
prints
to
get
this
design
right.
I
had
another
design
and
I'm
looking
over
here,
to
see
if
I
still
have
it,
but
I
also
really
liked-
and
I
forgot
to
grab
it
I'll-
grab
it
for
next
for
the
next
meeting,
but
it
was
instead
of
having
to
push
the
button.
C
The
ratchet
would
just
sort
of
spin
freely
and
it
would
you
could
sort
of
rotate
it
and
it
would
it
would
hold
in
place.
I
like
that,
a
lot
I
had
it
in
quavo
3
for
almost
a
year,
but
I
didn't
it
just.
It
would
hold
a
lot
better
than
the
quaboo
2
and
what
I
liked
about
it
was
you
could
sort
of
spin
it
and
turn
it
without
pressing
the
button.
C
But
if
you
really
lifted
a
heavy
object,
it
might
twist
on
its
own
right.
There
was
a
problem
that
was
what
I
was
getting
away
from
with
the
cargo
too,
if
you're
lifting
something
heavy
the
bolt
would
just
spin
on
its
own
and-
and
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
really
lock
in
place
and
I'll,
show
the
iterations
next
time
that
I
went
through
for
that
that
wrist
lock.
It
was
a
lot
of
iterations
in
my
demo,
video
I'm
putting
together.
I
I
sort
of
answered
the
question.
C
Well,
how
many
prints
do
you
make,
and
I
do
a
little
stack
of
the
the
two
kilogram
rolls
right
and
I
think
I
have
two
or
three
dozen
of
them
right
so
two
or
three
dozen
two
kilogram
rolls
is
what
it
takes
to
go
from:
kahu
2
to
guava
3.,
it's
a
lot
of
prints
and,
and
I'm
really
happy
with
the
the
wrist
print
and
how
it
works.
It
took
a
lot
to
get
it
to
print
so
that
it
acted.
You
know
this
way.
C
It
was
easy
to
press
and
rotate
on
that
size.
Yet
if
you
printed
this
size,
it
was
also
still
similar,
easy
to
print
and
and
rotate
and
lock
in
place
right
to
get
the
button
action
to
be
the
same.
I
did
all
of
my
tests
almost
completely
on
pet
g.
If
I
didn't
say
that
so
far,
I
generally
recommend
pet
g
as
the
print
material.
C
It
has
a
great
strength
to
print
ratio
right.
That's.
C
C
We
did
a
lot
of
force
meter
tests.
We,
we
built
a
jury
rig
force,
meter
very
similar
to
the
one
that
that
skip
used
to
make
right.
He
would
show
that
and-
and
I
have
a
group
of
guys-
I
work
with-
and
they
put
together
this
force
meter,
and
we
did
a
lot
of
force,
meter
tests
and
sort
of
came
away
with
petg.
Are
there
better,
stronger
plastics
out
there?
Yes,
but
they're
harder
to
print
harder
to
get
in
skin
tone
and
stuff
like
that?
C
C
It
will
work
with
pla
and
it'll
work
with
abs,
but
it
really
is
assuming
pet
g
and-
and
I
recommend
petchey
same
with
the
latch
when
I
get
to
the
latch
this
little
part
here-
the
internal
latch
mechanism,
I'm
assuming
pet
g.
It
did
all
the
tests
of
strength
tests
with
pet
g.
C
For
this
little
latch,
definitely
don't
use
pla,
it's
a
little
they're
little
pieces
in
there
and
after
you
sort
of
do
this
100
times
the
pla
will
likely
break
so
definitely
for
the
latch
mechanism.
You
want
to
use
petg
or
something
patchy
or
stronger,
and
if
you
go
stiffer,
then
it
won't
latch
right.
C
So
that's
that
that's
that
and
the
rest.
Let
me
talk
about
the
arm
for
a
little
bit
of
the
socket
arm,
in
particular
the
socket
arm
now
in
in
the
version.
Three
is
completely
open
s
cad
generated
right
in
version
two
I
sculpted.
The
arm
did
the
whole
thing
I
described
before
I
sculpted
it
in
and
get
its
quasi-arm
shape,
then
modified
it
in
fusion
and
then
further
modified
in
openscad.
C
This
version
is
completely
open,
s-cat
generated
and
the
reason
is
I
wanted
to
get
closer
to
a
good
fit
and
the
way
you
measure
the
arm
when
you
measure
a
recipient.
C
C
And
so,
if
you
open
up
that
code-
and
I
could
deep
dive
into
it-
it's
kind
of
a
a
mathematical
and
artistic
flair
built
into
that
code.
Right,
there's
a
few
hard-coded
numbers
to
sort
of
give
it
a
nice
little
arm-like
shape
and
that
is
sort
of
a
trial
and
error
set
of
numbers
and
that
are
combined
together
with
the
numbers
you
you
enter
to
give
it
that
to
loft
this
arm
shape.
So
you
can
get
you
have
a
lot
of
recipients
who
will
have.
C
Maybe
a
large
bulb
depends
on
how
their
amputation
was
done.
The
arm
can
be
can
have
a
bulb
in
it
or
or
odd
shapes,
and
so
you
want
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that,
and
that
was
a
big
deal.
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
go
to
a
completely
lofted
arm
shape,
so
the
inside
of
the
the
socket
right
will
match
whatever
that
loft
shape
was
right
and
close
down
by
the
end,
and
the
outside
shape
is
going
to
sort
of
use
a
separate
algorithm
to
come
kind
of
give
it
an
army.
C
Look
right,
arm-like,
look
that
was
really
important
to
me.
As
an
aside
kwaw
four
I'll
probably
require
a
scan
of
the
arm
right,
that's
the
direction
I'm
going.
I
think
scanners
are
available.
Easy
to
get
at
I've
been
working
a
lot
with
photogrammetry.
C
I
think
photogram
photogrammetry
will
work
well
enough
to
to
do
that
or
a
scan,
a
structure,
scanner
or
something
like
that.
That
will
probably
be
where
quad
will
four
goes,
so
I
can
get
an
even
better
fit.
Four
will
probably
be
a
good
example
of
where
I
cross
over
between
enable
and
what
we're
doing
in
operation
namaste
operation,
namaste.
We
require
a
scan
of
the
leg
residual.
C
What's
nice
about
a
scan,
is
you
can
now
share
that
scan
over
the
internet
with
an
actual
prosthetist
and
the
magic
that
a
prosthesis
does
in
this
whole
design?
They
have
a
four-year
degree
in
making
prosthetics,
but
the
part
that
they
really
care
about
is
the
inside
of
this
socket
the
shape
of
the
inside
of
the
socket.
That's
what
their
their
magic
comes
in
and
that's
where
you
want
their
input
right
is
what
does
that
shape?
C
Look
like
right
now
with
this
problem:
they
have
no
input,
it's
a
cylinder
right
and-
and
you
know,
jeff
laughs-
he's
like
that's,
probably
better
than
what
the
osr's
providing,
but
but
really,
if
you
could
provide
them
with
a
scan
and
then
they
could
sort
of
sculpt
on
that
scan
and
make
it
a
shape
that
they
wanted.
So
they
would
in
essence,
be
creating
the
shape
of
the
inside.
Of
that
socket
the
way
they
want
it
and
then
pass
that
scan
back
to
somebody.
C
You
know
like
a
group
and
enable
then
that
then
the
rest
of
it
could
be
made
by
a
naval
volunteer
and
be
fine
right,
so
that
sort
of
collaboration
is
where
I'd
probably
like
to
go
with
qual
four
will
be.
How
can
I
make
be
enable
that
to
pass
back
and
forth,
which
will
require
a
scan
of
the
residual,
but
back
to
this
one,
when
you're
entering
the
values
you're
entering
an
inch,
a
measurement
every
inch
all
the
way
down,
and
then
you
measure
an
arm
length.
C
The
arm
length
is
basically
from
from
this
crease
up
to
this
point,
so
that
might
be
longer
than
the
residual
or
should
be
longer
than
the
residual,
but
can
maybe
only
be
a
little
bit
longer.
I
recommend
making
it
just
long
enough
to
fit
the
wrist
bolt
right
in
this
one.
I've
made
it
sort
of
a
standard
arm
length
right.
I
do
have
something
I
can
grab.
C
C
So
if
you
can
make
the
arm,
you
know
this
much
shorter
right,
you're,
giving
them
a
lot
more
leverage
and
in
the
pueblo
3
you
can
enter
an
arm
because
I
have
this
here,
because
this
was
my
motivation
to
make
sure
that
I
could
build
this
in
the
503
that
the
that
the
arm
you
can
make
the
arm
just
a
little
bit
shorter
than
the
residual.
C
You
need
it
to
be
just
short
enough
to
fit
the
the
bolt
mechanism
right
and
and-
and
I
think
that
functionally
that's
a
lot
better
again.
You
just
need
to
ask
the
recipient
what
they
want.
Some
recipients
just
want
it
to
look
natural
arm
length
and,
of
course
you
should
make
whatever
whatever
they
they
want
you
to
make,
but
I
for
functionality
I
would
say,
make
it
shorter.
C
C
You
can
enter
any
value,
but
I'll
say
in
the
video
you
know
it
needs
to
be
between
the
the
wrist
bolt
and
this
the
latch
mechanism.
You
have
to
cut
it.
You
can't
cut
it
here
in
the
middle
of
the
latch.
You
can't
cut
out
here
down
in
the
middle
of
the
wrist
ball.
It
just
won't
work
and,
and
the
code
will
kind
of
barf
on
you,
so
I
don't
protect
against
that.
I
just
sort
of
say:
don't
do
that
right.
C
Your
stls
will
look
funny
anyway,
so
hopefully
people
figure
that
out
pretty
quick
but
anywhere
in
between
those
two
spots.
You
can
sort
of
make
the
cut
on
the
arm
and
then
and
the
code
will
generate
the
two
pieces.
Fine.
I
went
over
the
latch
in
the
in
the
other
video
right.
I
like
this
latch
a
lot
right.
C
You
could
you
move
it
back
and
forth
when
it's
latched,
the
the
hand
closes
and
elbow
moves
freely
when
you
open
it
the
now
it's
going
to
stick
on
oh
yeah,
when
you
open
it,
then
then
moving
the
arm
moves
it
back
and
forth.
I
had
the
video
where
I
open,
that
up
and
and
I
can
open
this
up
and
have
some
pieces
ready.
This
is
another
one
of
those
things
where
it's
probably
three
or
four.
C
You
know
six
kilogram,
two
or
three
kilogram
rolls
just
doing
the
latch
to
get
that
mechanism.
The
way
I
like
it
and
the
trick
was
getting
it
to
function
well
at
this
small
size
where
it
ratchets
and
still
function
well,
when
it
gets
generated
at
the
larger
size
right,
just
the
teeth
and
the
and
the
ratchet
mechanism
ratchets
and
latches.
It
just
takes
a
lot
of
of
design
and
trial
and
error
work
to
get
that
right.
C
I
think
there
are
some
differences
in
the
cuff
right,
you'll
notice,
that
the
cuff
hands-
and
this
is
all
generated
automatically
right-
this
one-
will
will
bend
out
to
match
that
and-
and
if
you
enter
a
really
wide
cuff
you'll
see
these
sort
of
these
shapes
will
change
depending
on
the
diameter
you've
entered
for
the
cuff
versus
the
dot.
The
first
diameter
event
entered
here.
C
I
think
that's
everything
I
could.
I
didn't
write
down,
I'm
going
to
write
down
a
long
list
of
people
to
thank
for
next
time,
because
every
one
of
those
little
changes
generally
comes
from
a
series
of
emails.
I
get
I
get
a
fair
amount
of
emails
and-
and
I
love
getting
them
from
people
saying
hey
by
the
way.
You
know
how
do
you
do
this,
or
how
do
you
do
that
or
here's
an
idea?
C
I
have
to
make
it
better
and
they
all
come
from
the
enable
group
in
general,
there
are
people,
you
know
that
that
have
I've
been
emailing
back
and
forth
with
since
2017
or
2016
and
and
always
sort
of
come
up
with
ideas.
I
have
a
small
group
of
people
about
five
to
ten.
It
kind
of
varies
of
my
own,
enable
chapter,
even
though
I
still
haven't
registered,
but
but
all
we
really
do
is
is
the
kwaw
design,
but
it's
five
to
ten
people
in
the
and
we
meet
in
the
loveland
creator
space.
C
So
it's
a
typical
sort
of
creator
space
chapter
and
they
help
a
lot.
They
do
a
lot
of
prints.
Some
of
the
guys,
because
alef
who
made
the
the
lulzbot
was
right
here
in
loveland,
had
a
lot
of
sort
of
ex
lulzbot
employees,
and
so
they
were
complete
printer
nerds,
and
so
they
were
always
sort
of
trying
different
printer
things
and
and
doing
different
sort
of
odd
things
that
we
would
do
with
a
printer
just
to
try
it
out,
and
and
so
they
don't
mind
going
home
and
printing.
C
You
know
two
spools
worth
of
something
and
coming
back
with
it
and,
for
example,
they
spent
they.
I
really
have
to
credit
them.
I
had
this
idea
of
this
adjustable
plastic
right
and
it
has
these
little
slats
in
it.
The
design
is
completely
taken
from
laser
printing
wood
right.
If
you
get
a
an
eighth
inch,
thick
wood-
and
you
do
this
laser
print
pattern-
it
comes
nice
and
bendable.
You
can
find
it
online.
C
I
wanted
to
do
that
because
I
again
with
this
wrapped
design.
People
have
really
odd-shaped
arms
right.
People
have
like
a
big
lump
here,
even
though
it's
all
the
way
down
here,
they
might
have
a
big
lump
in
the
middle
or
various
different
things,
and
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that
with
a
more
adjustable
wrap.
And
so
that's
why
I
went
to
this
flexible
size.
C
We
spent
a
long
time
making
these
little
slots
different
lengths
and
different
sizes
and
printing
in
petg
and
pla
and
and
all
sorts
of
things
and
another.
You
know
two
or
three
spools
of
of
of
a
plastic
and
we
had
a
little
force
meter.
You
know
that
we
we
would
pull
on
it
with
and
see.
You
know
how
much
bend
force
it
took
and
how
much
pull
force
it
could
take
and
and
came
up
with
this
optimal
slack
design.
You
can
change.
C
If
you
go
in
the
code,
you
can
change
the
slats.
I
don't
think
you'll
get
any
better
right.
We
we
wanted
maximum
flexibility
and
maximum
strength
and
we
couldn't
and
no
matter
if
we
made
this
slats
more
slats,
it
would
get
too
weak
and
if
you
made
less
slats
and
to
make
it
stronger,
it
wouldn't
bend
anymore.
So
we
really
kind
of
honed
in
on
this,
this
slat
design,
if
your
chain,
the
biggest
thing,
is
to
get
it
to
print.
C
Well,
you
want
to
you,
want
the
slats
to
be
opened,
and
you
don't.
You
want
your
your
interior
to
walls
to
connect.
Well
right,
you
don't
want
your
plastic
internally
to
start
ripping
apart.
You
want
that
to
bond
well
I'll,
try
and
go
through
that
in
the
video.
So
there's.
C
Then,
after
spending,
probably
a
year
of
printing
on
that,
I
was
like
no,
no
leather
is
better
and
all
the
guys
they
were
like.
We've
just
spent.
You
know
months,
you're
not
coming
up
with
this,
so
you
can
still
do
this,
but
leather
jack.
I
know.
A
You
mentioned,
I
know
you
mentioned
that
you're
using
pet
g
for
your
testing,
I'm
just
curious.
What
kind
of
3d
printer
do
you
use
and
what
kind
of
slicing
software
are
you
using.
C
So
I
have
a
couple
of
different
3d
printers.
I
generally
recommend
when
people
ask
me
that
question
today
I
say
the
creality
s10,
because
it's
a
500
printer
does
a
good
job,
medium-sized
bowden,
cable,
I
modified
mine
pretty
heavily,
but
only
to
make
it
quieter
right.
I
like
them.
I,
like
my
printer,
is
right
over
there
right.
I,
like
it
quiet,
and
so
I
did
heavy
modifications,
but
just
to
make
it
quieter.
It
prints
just
fine
out
of
the
box
and
it's
a
good
price
again.
C
My
geek
friends
at
lulzbot
they'll
have
lulzbot
printers.
They
have
completely
custom
made
a
lot
of
prusas
so
because
I
have
that
group
I
can
rely
on.
You
know
we
we
make
sure
that
we
print
on
at
least
five
or
six
or
ten
different
printer
types.
C
One
guy
loves
deltas,
so
he
prints
everything
on
deltas,
so
just
to
make
sure
it
works.
C
As
an
aside
again
sort
of
looking
forward,
I
will
probably
move
to.
I
have
a
new
core
xy
printer,
I'm
generally
moving
to
core
xy
and
the
only
real
reason
is
these
prints
here
right.
If
I'm
printing,
a
long
tall
thing
like
that,
the
core
xy,
because
it's
not
moving
the
bed
around-
tends
to
print
a
tall,
thin
thing
like
this
better,
and
so
I
again,
but
I
would
just
go
with
the
the
core
xy.
C
What
is
it
the
ender
six
from
reality?
This
is
what
I
bought
or
under
seven
yeah
or
the
or
the
seven.
I
think
I
went
with
the
six
because
it
was
bigger.
C
So
with
the
open
operation,
namaste,
I'm
doing
leg
sockets
and
your
average
leg
socket.
You
know
is
more
like
that,
and-
and
I
want
something
that
does
about
that
much
volume.
But
but
so
I
would.
I
would
recommend,
shifting
to
a
core
x
y.
It
has
its
problems,
but
but
the
main
reason
that
I'm
shifting
to
it
is
to
get
long
tall
prints
better.
B
B
Jack,
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
the
quality
of
the
work,
the
quantity
of
the
work,
the
amount
of
time,
effort,
testing
and
iteration
that
you've
done
is
really
extraordinary.
I
want
to
congratulate
you
and
all
of
the
people
you
haven't
mentioned.
It's
really
an
amazing
effort.
Yeah!
Thank
you.
You
know
you
so
it
and
it's
it's
a
beautiful
thing.
C
Yeah,
so
that
is
both
good
and
bad
in
the
sense
that
the
the
the
best
way
that
I
have
found
for
me
for
personally
is
to
hook
up
with
a
local
group
who's
going
to
take
it
seriously
and
support
their
their
recipients
and
make
and
and
learn
how
to
make
prosthetics
and
sort
of
repeat
with
that
recipient
right
in
the
u.s.
There
are
very
good
chapters
that
do
that.
C
I
like
to
mention
the
north
carolina
chapter,
because
I
just
love
those
guys
they
do
a
great
job
right
following
up
on
their
recipients
and
doing
parties
for
their
recipients
and
and
just
really
getting
involved
right,
and
so
I
like
to
find
somebody
like
that
in
country,
the
the
guys
you're
doing
this
afternoon
right
are
great
example.
C
For
all
the
reasons
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
have
at
it
I'll
give
you
whatever
information
you
need
and
but
they're
a
group
that
is,
is
meeting
the
need
of
a
you
know:
they're,
going
out
reaching
out
to
recipients
finding
recipients
and
reaching
out
to
them
and
keeping
in
touch
with
them
is
a
big
deal.
It
takes
a
lot
of
work
right.
You
need
to
particularly
if
you're
somewhere
in
the
developing
world,
you
need
to
a
lot
of
groups.
It
varies.
C
Some
groups
will
do
things
like
pay
people
to
come
in
literally
say:
oh,
if
you
come
in
I'll,
give
you
a
recipient
right,
give
you
an
arm
and
it
can
work
both
ways.
Sometimes
it'll
make
them
pay,
they
say,
oh,
if
you
come
in,
you
have
to
pay
25,
because
that
puts
skin
in
their
game
and
then
they'll
say.
C
They
they
rarely
do
it's
just
been
in
the
u.s,
I'm
speculating
because
they
got
this
free
arm
and
it
broke
after
six
months
and
they're
embarrassed
to
come
back
and
say
they
broke
it.
I
no
matter
how
much
I
say.
B
C
Really,
please
just
come
back
I'll
fix
it.
I
love
doing
this,
it's
hard
to
get
them
to
come
back
and
it's
actually
harder
in
the
places
where
we're
trying
to
reach.
So
this
idea
of
sort
of
coming
up
with
a
mechanism
that
works
locally
in
your
country,
whether
it's
charging
25
giving
five
dollars
back
every
time
they
come
get
them
to
come
back
every
six
months.
C
C
They
have
staff
of
people
who
go
out
right.
So
if
somebody
gets
a
leg
or
an
arm
or
what
have
you
they're
noted
and
then
somebody
will
go
visit
them
every
six
months,
because
getting
that
person
to
come
back
is
extremely
difficult
and
so
it's
easier
to
pay
somebody
to
go
out
and
visit
them
every
six
months
to
a
year,
and
so
now
your
staff
of
people
who
are
visiting
people
is
larger
than
anybody
who's
actually
making
them.
C
So
I'm
sort
of
going
back
and
forth
that
that
interacting
with
the
recipient
is
probably
80
of
the
work
yeah.
Only
20
of
the
work
is
what
I
do
right.
The
fun
part
that
I
do
and
coming
up
with
a
design,
and
yes,
it's
important
to
come
up
with
a
design
that
works
and
getting
a
prosthetist
who
knows
how
to
fit
the
arm.
You
know
locally,
so
a
lot
of
the
local
clinics
that
I
work
with
around
the
world.
C
They
have
a
prosthetist
on
staff,
and
so
they
have
a
3d
printer
geek
who
doesn't
mind
printing
them
and
they
have
a
prosthetist
who
is
working
with
them
to
making
sure
that
the
fit
is
good
enough.
They
will
often
be
in
in
the
prosthetist
world.
They
have
the
ipo,
the
international
association
of
prosthetics
and
orthotics.
They
have
levels
of
prosthetists
level,
one
two
three
and
a
level
one
is
what
you
would
get.
C
If
you
went
into
a
us
office
right,
it's
a
highly
trained,
four-year
degree,
prosthetist,
a
level
two
is
somewhere
in
between
a
level.
Three
is
sort
of
a
glorified
clinician.
Yes,
they've
taken
some
training,
they
kind
of
know
what
they're
doing
they
probably
are:
building
a
10
20
30
year
old
design
so
anywhere
outside
of
the
us
and
europe
you're
getting
a
level
three
prosthetist
right,
you're
lucky.
C
If
you
can
get
a
level
two
or
level
one
prosthetist
so
big
deal
is
how
can
I
take
a
level
three
prosthetists
and
have
them
make
a
level
one
design?
And
so
that's
a
big
deal,
a
lot
of
things
that
I
work
with
with
jeff
about
right.
We
I
I
I
talked
with
jeff
twice
a
week
right.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
together
and
figuring
out.
Okay,
how
can
we
get
and-
and
we
and
jeff
and
I'll
credit
him
has
come
up
with
this
idea?
C
He
wants
to
call
a
level
four
prosthetist
and
he's
a
prosthesis
and
we
work.
We
work
with
the
ispo.
We
work
with
hui,
we
work
with
red
cross
and
he
wants
to
get
those
guys
to
call
something
called
a
level
four
prosthetist.
This
is
jeff's
idea
a
level
four
prosthetist
is
somebody
who's,
probably
a
clinician,
probably
a
professional
medical
version
of
some
person,
but
they're
they're.
All
you
got
when
you
land
in
sierra
leone,
you
know,
or
or
syria
or
now
over
in
the
in
the
in
the
east
in
the
ukraine.
C
B
So
jack,
I
don't
know
whether
you've
been
monitoring
our
town
hall
meetings,
but
we
are
going
through
a
leadership
transition
right
now
and
bob
rieger
has
retired
jeremy
and
I
are
reducing
our
involvement.
I
don't
think
we're
ever
going
to
be
not
connected
with
enable,
but
there
are
a
number
of
people.
Jeff
powell
in
north
carolina
is
one
of
them
who
have
just
been
doing
extraordinary
work
over
the
years
and
eric
bubar
stepping
and
ian
roy
brandeis,
all
sort
of
beginning
to
step
into
a
process
of
envisioning.
B
And
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
superb
designs
now,
yours
being,
I
think
one
of
the
very
very
best
examples,
this
question
of
how
do
we
get
them
out
in
the
world
is,
of
course
it's
the
hardest
question
of
all.
As
you
point
out
yeah,
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
more
about
the
question
and
possibly
the
answer
than
offhand
anyone.
I
can
think
about.
Certainly
thinking
about
these
organizational
and
professional
relationships.
B
I
don't
talk
to
jeff
anymore,
I'd
like
you
to
give
them
my
regards,
but
you
actually
have
been
able
to
keep
a
foot
or
an
arm
in
both
in
both
communities,
and
I
just
want
you
to
be
alert
to
the
fact
that
a
there's,
a
transition
possible
and
underway
b.
B
A
And
even
though
you
have
been,
and
are
I'm
sure,
fully
willing
to
do
these
on
your
own
dime
jack,
I
I
want
to
just
clarify.
We
need
to
use
this
money.
We
need
to
put
this
money
to
good
use
and
show
good
results
so
that
we
can
justify
another
round
from
our.
You
know
supporters,
so
it
give
it
some
thought
we
we
need
good
projects
that
are
going
to
benefit.
A
You
know
the
whole
community
and
further
our
goals,
and
I
just
want
to
echo
we're
going
to
have
to
wrap
up
here.
I
just
want
to
echo
what
john
said
about
the
fantastic
work
that
you're
doing.
I
I
I
I
would
encourage
you
not
to
even
limit
your
thinking
to
you
know
how
we
get
devices
out
there.
That's
certainly
a
very
core
issue
and
important,
and
we
can
benefit
from
your
input
on
it,
but
gosh
you,
you
have
so
much
to
offer
in
terms
of
your
design
approach.
A
The
way
you
went
about
thinking
about
what's
important
and
who
your
target
audience
is
and
there's
just
I.
I
hope
that
you
get
involved
in
that
sort
of
leadership
group
that
we're
talking
about.
You
need
to
be
part
of
that.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
a
fantastic
presentation
and
just
say
that
we've
collected
a
whole
bunch
of
questions
and
comments
in
the
chat
which
ben
has
gathered,
and
so
he'll
share
those
all
with
you
and
if
you
can
maybe
work
those
into
your
deep
dive
presentation,
then
on
the
13th
is
it
the
13th?
A
Is
that
right
ben?
That
would
be
fantastic,
and
I
think
we'll
we'll
have
to
then
just
there's
so
many
questions
that
I
think
not
just
me.
Others
here
have,
but
let's
save
those
for
the
13th.
If
that's
okay-
and
I
think
this
was
just
a
great
opportunity
to
to
give
us
a
a
taste
and
give
us
an
opportunity
to
come
up
with
those
questions.
So
thank
you
and
thank.
C
A
No,
it
wasn't
your
snafu,
that's
something
that
we
would
have
talked
about
we'll
talk
about
next
week,
which
is
we're
having
some
time
zone
issues
with
the
hub.
It's
mistranslating
some
of
the
times
on
events,
so
that
was
certainly
not
your
fault
and
we
will
be
talking
about
how
we
deal
with
that
next
time.
A
So,
for
now,
we'll
just
say:
be
careful
folks,
pay
attention
to
the
the
time
listings
and
and
make
sure
that
it's
it's
translating
correctly
ask
questions
post
comments
if
you
want
to
be
sure
and
we'll
get
into
that
next
week
and
talk
about
how
to
fix
that.
But
thank
you
so
much
jack
and
I
I
really
look
forward
to
talking
further
on
the
13th
and
there's
there's
so
much.
I
want
to
hear
more
about,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
today.
Cool
awesome,
awesome.
Anybody.
C
A
Anything
that
we
do
need
to
address
real,
quick
before
we
wrap
up
okay.
Well,
thank
you
all
and
then
ben
stay
with
me.
Everyone
else
see
you
all
next
week.
Thank
you.