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From YouTube: Weekly e-NABLE Town Hall Meeting - May 13, 2022
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This is a recording of the weekly e-NABLE Town Hall meeting.
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A
Okay,
we're
live
welcome
to
another
town
hall.
Let
me
just
make
sure
I'm
not
gonna
get
this
playing
in
the
background.
Nope
we're
good.
Okay.
So,
as
I
said,
welcome,
we've
got
a
special
presentation
today
from
nate
monroe,
which
we'll
get
to
shortly,
but
just
gonna
do
a
couple
of
quick
administrative
things.
First,
let
me
share
my
screen
here.
We've
got
our
youtube
chat
there
in
the
lower
right
corner,
we'll
try
to
keep
an
eye
on
that.
A
If
we
got
anyone
watching
on
live
stream,
feel
free
to
say
hello,
all
right,
ben's
gonna
be
helping
us
with
notes.
I
don't
see
anyone
new
to
introduce
today.
Everyone
here
is
an
old
timer
action
items.
I
think
these
are
things
that
we
don't
need
to
take
the
time
to
cover.
Today
we
got
a
couple
of
in-progress
things
we'll
follow
up
on
those
next
time.
That's
nothing
time-sensitive!
Right
now.
The
only
upcoming
special
presentation
I
have
is
today
is
from
nate
monroe.
A
So
if
anybody
else,
we
did
have
a
great
presentation
from
jack
buchanan
recently
and
he's
doing
a
follow-up
deep
dive
on
that
today,
which
we'll
be
mentioning
again
momentarily
when
we
look
at
upcoming
events,
but
other
than
that.
I
have
no
other
presentations
on
the
schedule.
So
it'd
be
really
nice
to
highlight
some
of
the
other
great
projects
we
have
going
on.
That's
an
open
invitation
to
anyone
in.
B
A
Community,
here's
our
usual
metrics
that
we
look
at
and
I
don't
think
there's
anything
really
to
call
attention
to
I'll,
just
remind
everyone
that
we
do
have
a
very
healthy
balance
in
the
enable
fund.
So
it's
a
great
time
to
be
putting
forth
projects
that
would
be
of
value
to
the
community,
because
we
want
to
keep
this
funding
coming.
We
want
to
go
back
to
these
donors
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
say
look
at
all
the
wonderful
things
we
did
with
your
last
round
of
funding.
A
Would
you
please
support
us
again
and
we
we
haven't,
really
done
a
good
job
of
making
use
of
the
funding
we've
received
this
year,
so
we
we
need
to
actually
need
to
spend
some
of
this
money.
So
we
need
some
good
projects.
A
A
We
always
like
to
look
at
kind
of
the
the
the
most
active
posts
of
the
week
on
the
hub,
and
there
were
really
just
two
that
I
wanted
to
call
attention
to
this
week.
One
is
from
jack
buchanan
who
asked
if
it
was
possible
to
remove
that
little
widget
that
we
have
in
the
hub.
That
says
need
help.
A
It's
the
one
you
click
on
to
get
to
the
live
chat
and
because
he
found
that
that
kind
of
covers
up
important
elements
when
you're
on
a
mobile
device,
and
so
we
did
go
ahead
and
remove
that
that's
been
done.
We
just
decided
that
there's
there's
other
ways
of
accessing
that
support
channel.
You
can
always
email
us
and
we
do
have
the
live
chat.
Widget
on
the
other
enables
site
at
enablingthefuture.org,
so
we
just
went
ahead
and
removed
it
from
the
hub.
A
So
that's
been
done
and
then
daniel
robinson
posted
some
interesting
photos
he's
been
doing
some
experimenting
with
the
thermo-formed
wrist
braces
that
have
been
discussed
in
the
chapter
leaders
meeting.
There's
been
some
discussion
about
how
our
community
might
be
able
to
help
with
the
situation
in
ukraine
the
refugees
there,
and
this
was
one
of
the
possibilities
that
we
thought
might
be
a
good
fit
for
our
capabilities.
A
It's
got
some
very
cool
photos
here,
showing
how
they're
testing
out
that
process
and
looks
really
really
good
to
prevent
you
know
any
burns.
It
looks
like
yeah,
so
I
don't.
I
didn't
really.
It
looks
like
just
one
comment
from
ben
congratulating
him
and
give
him
a
video
link,
but
just
wanted
to
share
that
cool
excellent
work,
all
right.
A
So
as
far
as
meetings
coming
up,
we've
got
today's,
of
course,
today's
presentation
from
nate
coming
up
momentarily
and
then
after
this
meeting
about
an
hour
after
this
meeting
wraps
up
at
1
pm,
eastern
we've
got
the
focus
follow-up,
which
is
that
deep
dive
I
mentioned
with
with
jack
buchanan
going
into
the
kawawu
3.0,
which,
if
you
didn't
see
his
last
presentation-
oh
my
god,
so
impressive-
really
don't
want
to
miss
this.
A
It
is
such
an
impressive
design
with
so
many
innovations
I
mean
not
just
one,
but
several
really
very
cool
and
valuable
innovations.
I
think
so
be
sure
to
check
that
out.
There
were
a
number
of
questions
that
came
up
in
his.
You
know
sort
of
short
presentation
that
he
gave
recently
and
were
you
know,
hoping
to
be
able
to
get
deeper
insights
into
some
of
those
things
in
today's
follow-up.
A
As
far
as
other
upcoming
meetings,
let
me
pull
up
the
month's
summary
here
ben
anything.
You
want
to
go
through
here
on
upcoming
meetings.
B
Maybe
just
a
circle
back
around.
We
did
have
the
chapter
leaders
meeting
this
past
monday,
which
which
was
a
great
turnout.
We
had
a
lot
of
folks
new
folks.
B
There
was
a
team
member
from
enable
greece
a
couple.
There
was
a
volunteer
who's
from
ukraine,
just
a
really
interesting
conversation
and
a
lot
of
leads
from
from
how
we
can
move
forward
with
supporting
ukraine.
Also,
the
friday
before
was
a
presentation
by
humanos
3d
in
colombia,
and
they
they
really
are
doing
wonderful
work
down
there.
So
if
you
check
the
calendar,
you
can
go
back
and
you
can
see
these
presentations
and
in
in
the
comments
for
the
events,
you'll
see
the
recordings
coming
up.
B
We've
got,
as
you
mentioned
before
today,
is
the
jack
buchanan's
presentation
and
then
the
following
week
john's
going
to
be
walking
us
through
basically
orientation
materials.
Looking
at
the
launch
pad
the
new
member
space
and
helping
to
to
make
the
most
of
all
the
resources
that
some
of
our
brandeis
interns
help
put
together,
namely
kevin
and
ally,.
A
Thank
you
ben
all.
Right
don't
have
any
kind
of
one-time
events
coming
up,
so
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
nate
to
do
his
presentation
and
then
time
permitting.
I
have
just
three
topics
that
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
save
time
for
so
if,
if
we
can
try
to
save
10
to
15
minutes
towards
the
innate,
that
would
be
helpful,
but
we're
flexible
on
that
with
that.
C
Okay,
awesome:
okay,
my
name
is
nate
monroe
for
those
that
don't
know
me
within
the
community,
I
used
to
be
really
heavily
involved,
but
the
last
year,
or
so
I've
been
taking
a
pretty
deep
hiatus
to
go,
take
care
of
the
parenting
laws
and
medicare
issues
that
were
in
colorado.
That
made
me
lose
my
arm
in
the
first
place,
so
it's
all
kind
of
interconnected,
but
it
was
something
I
had
to
do
for
my
own
personal
needs.
C
C
It's
just
something
I
had
to
do
as
I
had
to
shift
my
attention
back
to
the
things
that
were
needed
to
be
done
here
with
the
legal
situation
in
colorado,
so
the
development
definitely
hasn't
been
as
impressive
as
it
has
in
the
past,
but
the
things
that
we
have
done
have
been
very
impactful
and
we've
delivered
a
few
devices
despite
being
really
distracted
to
some
degree.
C
That's
how
we'll
say
this
we
had
everything
coming
together,
then
I
have
design
team
had
gotten
basically
too
big
for
its
own
good.
At
that
same
moment,
I
had
a
few
key
players
that
shuffled
around,
which
always
happens
when
you've
got
quality
people
helping
out,
and
so
that's
inevitable,
with
people
who
are
of
quality,
that
they're
gonna
be
promoted
to
their
jobs.
C
So,
like
one
of
my
main
designers
got
promoted
in
his
job
and
it
started
a
big
down
turn
and
actually
the
knight
design
team
kind
of
crumbled
in
some
degree,
but
me
and
some
core
members
still
kept
doing
the
design
work
as
we
could,
as
I
was
able
to
between
my
lulls
with
the
the
legal
stuff,
so
we're
gonna
cover
basically
the
2022
niop
catalog,
and
I
the
one
member
that
I
had
consistently
through
all
of
this
was
lorenzo
my
assembly
guy.
C
So
we
were
still
able
to
prototype
some
new
designs
and
get
some
new
stuff
out
there.
It
actually
was
hearing
my
description
of
the
events
up
to
this
point.
It
sounds
pretty
bleak,
but
actually
we've
made
some
very
significant
goals
and
we've
expanded
extended
some
of
the
music
adapters
as
well.
C
We
now
have
a
transhumeral
version
of
the
salvation,
so
we've
got
a
salvation
adapter
now,
if
you're
near
elbow
or
if
you're
transradial
anywhere
along
here,
we
can
attach
the
salvation
to
salvation
one
works
for
near
elbow
conditions
and
then
the
new
salvation
3
is
a
transhumeral
version
that
fits
right
up
in
here.
A
D
C
D
C
That's
what
I
used
to
play
my
guitar
videos
is,
I
use
the
salvation
one
now
other
people
had
written
in
and
said.
Well,
I
would
like
one
that
works
further
down
on
my
arm,
because,
obviously
they're
blessed
with
a
little
more
forearm
than
I
had
so
then
we
came
up
with
the
salvation
2
style,
which
is
a
thermo-formable
version,
and
you
just
strap
it
on
with
a
velcro
strap.
So
this
is
a
little
easier
to
dawn
and
doff
to
take
on
and
off,
but
it
it
does.
C
I
find
the
rubbers,
the
rubber
tourniquet,
it's
actually
a
latex
tourniquet
or
non-latex
tourniquet
skin
safe,
so
it
it
sticks
and
holds
better
for
my
situation.
But
this
is
good
for
people
that
need
transradial.
C
I
have
a
little
more
forearm
to
work
with
that
actually
gives
you
more
range
with
your
with
your
strumming
arm
and
then
the
transhumeral
version
is
very
similar
to
this,
but
with
the
pick
adapter
extended
off
the
front
and
bent
at
a
90
degree
angle
to
kind
of
emulate
an
elbow
we're
going
to
make
a
more
deluxe
version
of
this.
That's
actually
the
helix
cuff,
with
an
adapted
forearm
in
the
bottom
attached
to
a
brace,
so
it
will
activate
and
swing
down.
As
you
swing
your
arm
out,
the
trick
is
right.
C
Now
the
action
we've
got
with
the
bracing
system
needs
you
to
pull
the
arm
forward
to
get
it
to
swing
down.
So
I've
got
to
reverse
the
way.
The
cable
tension
works
to
be
able
to
operate
it
correctly
to
work
with
a
strumming
action,
but
all
of
the
pieces
are
there.
We
just
got
to
redirect
it
slightly.
C
So
those
are
the
musical
adapter
adapters
that
we've
made
so
far.
C
C
I'm
gonna
try
and
make
them
customizable
with
open
scads,
so
you
can
customize
them
to
your
door
and
that
way
you
can
change
all
the
doors
in
your
house
to
a
lever
style
door
knob
that
you
can
operate
with
a
stump
or
with
a
device,
and
it
even
it
changes
the
point
of
having
to
buy
new
door
knobs.
So
you
don't
have
to
change
any
of
the
key
sets
or
the
locks
or
any
of
the
other
things,
especially
if
you're
renting
it
doesn't.
You
know
many
times.
C
A
While
you're
pulling
that
up,
I
want
to
ask
a
question
mate,
just
based
on
what
you've
shared
so
far.
It
strikes
me
that
it
sounds
like
you're
sort
of
focusing
more
on
devices
oriented
towards
sort
of
specialized
functions.
A
lot
of
you
know,
music,
you
know
helping
to
play
musical
instruments
helping
open
doorknobs
are
you?
Is
that
your
focus?
Are
you
kind
of
moving
away
from
generalized
devices
and
focusing
more
on
task
specific
devices,
or
is
that
just
part
of
the
catalog.
C
We
started
talking
about
this
little
thing
up
here
in
the
top
corner,
instead
of
the
main
event
going
on
right
here.
So
one
of
the
perhaps
maybe
the
largest
advancement
we've
made
with
the
well
there's
two
different
advancements
that
we
made
for
the
general
arm
systems,
the
general
niop
arm
platform.
C
The
first
would
be
the
arcs
hand,
which
is
functionally
the
most
adaptable
and
most
functional
hand,
I'd
found
within
the
enable
library.
So
far
now
to
be
fair,
I
have
not
reviewed
the
k1
hand,
which
I
know
eric
is
really
into
and.
D
B
C
I
need
to
take
a
look
at,
but
the
arcs
hand
does
have
significant
technological
advances
that
made
it
a
formidable
force.
It's
got
a
cool
look
to
it
right
now.
That's
definitely
unapologetically
prosthetic,
which
is
one
thing.
I
know
certain
users
don't
like,
but
I've
found
a
whole
group
of
users
that
really
do
like
that.
I
get
a
lot
of.
C
I
get
a
lot
of
requests
for
cool
robot
arms,
and
this
like
falls
right
into
that
category,
and
so
jason
lee
is
the
inventor
of
this
hand
and
he's
a
he's,
a
solid
designer
by
all
accounts
I
have
gone
through
and
I've
adapted
lots
of
parts
from
the
arcs
from
the
original
arcs
hand
for
the
niop
system.
One
adaptation
I've
made
is,
I
put
a
metal
recoil
spring
in
it
which
we'll
get
into.
I
got
a
good
picture
of
that
later,
but
in
general
it
works.
C
There's
no
tpu
in
it
at
all.
It
prints
very
cleanly
without
supports
on
almost
all
the
parts.
The
thumb
is
positionable
in
three
positions:
the
wrist
rotates
in
12
positions
with
the
new
arcs
wrist,
the
it
features.
Oh
my
gosh.
It
says
participants
can
now
see
your
screen.
I
hope
you
guys
were
able
to
see
this
before.
C
Excellent,
it's
got
silicone
fingertips
and
a
silicone
grip
pad
on
the
palm,
so
it's
got
excellent
traction
and
and
friction
in
the
grip
to
be
able
to
really
hold
on
to
stuff.
It's
got
really
good
contact
with
the
pinch
grip
it
normally
when
you
just
pull
it
shut,
it
will
go
into
this
pinch
grip.
If
you
keep
pushing
past
that
point,
it
will
then
go
into
a
oh.
I
guess
the
fingers
slip
underneath
and
it
goes
into
a
full
grip.
So
you
get
both
grips
by
just
activating
it.
It's
really
neat.
C
As
far
as
how
much
effort
it
takes
from
the
user
to
hold
it,
you
can
hold
very
tightly
onto
something
with
minimal
effort
and
it
doesn't
cause
the
spasms
in
the
in
the
residual
limb
like
we
were
having
before
when
you
have
to
really
muscle
through
it
when
you're
holding
it.
So
that
was
the
point
of
the
grip
block
switch
and
this
eliminated
a
huge
bunch
of
the
assembly
and
the
complexity
of
the
arm
design
itself.
The
arm
itself
is
now
just
two
pieces,
plus
the
cuff
and.
C
A
Nate,
if
you'll,
if
you'll,
excuse
one
more
interaction,
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
what
you
just
described
about
the
change
you
made
with
the
cam
and
allowing
for
gripping
without
the
locking
mechanism
and
everything
that
strikes
me
as
like
this
is
one
of
those
very
unique
advantages
of
having
somebody
like
yourself,
who's,
a
designer
who
himself
has
a
limb
difference.
I
don't
know
that
somebody
else
without
a
limb
difference
could
have
you
know,
identified
even
the
need.
Much
less
come
up
with
the
solution.
C
It
takes
all
thank
you,
jeremy.
It
takes
all
kinds,
though,
because,
like
I'm
able
to
facilitate
this
part,
obviously
jack
on
his
own
has
made
some
massive
advantages
too.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
comparing
notes
with
everybody
in
the
community
the
k1
hand-
probably
has
some
awesome
stuff
to
add
as
well.
So
all
this
being
said,
the
wrist,
the
the
wrist
design
here
should
work
now
with
the
new
kwawu's,
and
the
wrist
here
would
be
replaced
in.
C
How
do
I
say
this?
The
bottom
part
for
the
kwawu,
which
was
just
the
wrist
before,
is
that's
the
replacement
part.
It's
a
modified
version
of
that
there
we
go.
I
got
it
out
so,
but
this
this
particular
wrist
has
a
cavity
inside
the
wrist
for
the
recoil
spring
to
fit
down
in.
So
you
can
get
some
additional
tensioning
out
of
the
spring
because
there
wasn't
enough,
just
within
the
palm
cavity,
to
be
able
to
get
the
spring
to
tension
properly,
to
get
enough
response
to
make
the
hand
pop
open
smoothly.
C
So,
oh
there's
one
other
big
feature
about
the
ark's
hand.
I
suppose
I
can
get
into
it.
C
The
new
catalog
here
I
will
send
I'll,
put
a
link
up
in
the
hub,
so
everybody
can
get
access
to
this
right
after
the
presentation,
I'll
put
a
link
in
the
presentation
as
well.
We
have
most
of
the
same
categories
as
we
had
before,
but
we've
cleaned
up
the
catalog
and
got
all
the
pictures
looking
good.
So
now
we're
getting
a
little
more
professional.
C
So
the
first
thing
we
got
faq's
pages
now.
So
how
do
I
and
then
you
just
come
up
here
and
you
can
pick
on
any
one
of
these
pieces
of
text
or
the
icon
and
it'll.
Just
take
you
to
tell
you
how
to
do
things
with
the
new
silicone
parts.
We've
made
a
tip
sheet
a
diy
sheet
for
you,
so
you
can
learn
how
to
make
silicone
parts
I'll.
Give
you
guys
all
a
little
spoiler
alert.
All
you
do
is
print
out
the
molds.
C
That
goes
pretty
easy,
but
the
next
part
is
diluted,
dish,
soap,
you
take
dish,
soap
and
it's
about
a
50
50
mix
with
fat
and
water,
and
then
you
use
that
as
the
the
release
agent
in
the
molds
and
silicone
doesn't
stick
to
that.
I
found
even
mold.
Release
doesn't
work
very
well
with
this,
but
dish
soap
is
beautiful
and
gives
you
really
awesome
results
number
two
solution
for
that.
C
A
So
just
a
naming
question
clarify
for
us:
what
is
the
difference
between
nyop,
which
I
know
stands
for
no
insurance?
Is
it
no
insurance?
Optimized
prosthetics?
Is
that
right.
A
C
Okay,
niop
is
kind
of
like
enable
it's
a
no-no.
It's
a
non-organization
of
not
it's,
not
a
non-organization
of
non-organizations,
it's
just
a
non-organization.
I
suppose
it's
just
a
no.
C
So
though
the
tree
of
strength
is
an
official
llc
registered
with
the
state
of
colorado.
So
that's
the
business
name,
we're
doing
things
under
tree
of
strength
will
be
the
organization
we're
using
to
generate
fda
registration.
So
we
can
become
a
official
fda
registered
prosthetic
manufacturer
to
make
these
prosthetics
for
children's
hospital
and
hopefully
some
of
the
other
hospitals
here
locally
and
then
hopefully
that
would
be
the
model
that
could
then
be
reproduced
and
replicated
throughout
the
rest
of
the
community.
C
We're
working
with
a
consultant
who
she's
got
a
lot
of
experience
with
the
fda
she's.
Actually,
the
one
who
got
the
epipen
registered
with
the
fda.
D
C
She's
got
a
lot
of
different
experience
with
medical
class
devices
of
all
different
levels
and
she's
kind
of
like
the
the
hot
shot
to
call
in
for
this.
I
was
lucky
enough.
Actually,
the
manager
that
left
that
caused
the
design
team
snafu
was
actually
the
guy
that
ended
up
working
with
her
that
brought
her
in.
C
So
no
one
can
complain
about
anything,
it's
just
a
complicated
world
so
but
she
is
an
invaluable
part
of
this
whole
plan
to
move
forward
with
the
fda,
and
so
that
that
is
the
answer
about
tree
of
strength
and
there's
merch
for
all
these
different
people.
So
our
organizations
or
whatever
the
no-no
is
brands.
C
Yes,
yes,
and
and
I'm
working
on
trademarking
it
right
now,
because
it
forever
was
just
me
working
out
of
a
hospital
bed,
but
now
it's
becoming
kind
of
more
official,
and
so
I
should
I
need
to
work
on
doing
that,
because
it's
a
brand
that
has
identification
and
stuff
to
it.
So
it's
worth
protecting.
C
Are
there
any
other
questions
here
about
the
faq
page
or
things
that
you
would
like
to
see
in
the
future
here
that
I
didn't
quite
address?
Obviously,
things
might
come
up
when
you're
working
on
a
project,
but
this
is
a
great
place
to
ask
folks
for
feedback.
C
If
there's
something
obvious
like
hey,
how
do
you
make
a
device
or
something
that
would
have
been
a
good
one,
but
like
we
covered
some
of
those
bases?
Yeah?
Okay,
so
here
we
go
we're
into
the
arcs
hand,
so
we've
covered
most
of
this
already
down
here
at
the
bottom.
You
can
see
how
the
pinch
grip
works.
You
can
see
the
three
positions
for
the
thumb.
This
is
actually
a
zero,
then
a
40
degree
deflection
than
an
80
degree
deflection.
C
These
two
don't
look
that
much
different,
but
it's
just
because
the
ones
at
like
a
45
degree
angle.
Almost
here
you
can
see
the
silicone
fingertips
and
unfortunately
I
can't
I
don't
have
sticky
keys
on
right
next.
I
didn't
want
to
beep
you
guys
during
the
meeting,
but
we
can
roll
in
there
later.
Basically,
what
it
is
is
this
is
the
thumb
right
here
and
so
all
of
them
basically
work
on
the
same
principle.
C
It's
got
a
cavity
that
you'll
over
fill
with
silicone
jam
it
down
in
oh
put
on
the
or
fill
the
or
paint
the
inside
of
the
mold.
With
the
diluted
dish.
Soap,
then
you
jam
the
silicone
in
there
come
back
two
days
later,
and
you
got
one
of
these
so
and
that
do-it-yourself
sheet
has
all
the
tips
in
there.
For
you.
The
one
thing
I
did
not
cover
in
the
ark's
hand,
that
actually
is
covered
up
in
this
picture
is
internally.
C
In
the
ark's
hand,
the
whipple
tree
runs
through
a
pulley
system,
so
the
driveline
comes
in
through
the
wrist
goes
up
in,
through
the
hand,
goes
up
through
the
whipple
tree
back
down
through
a
pulley
and
then
secures
on
the
whipple
tree.
So
what
it
does
is
when
you
pull
on
it,
it
leverages
and
pulls
the
whipple
tree
down
with
the
increased
cam
on
the
end
of
the
elbow.
So
there's
two
things
they're
working
the
leverage
to
your
advantage,
so
it
works
really
well,
even
with
shorter
residual
limbs.
It's
a
good
design.
C
Jason
lee
did
with
the
original
design
got
it.
It
may
hold
more,
though
now,
because
I
believe
that
number
was
derived
without
the
silicone
fingertips
and
the
fingertips
add
a
huge
amount
of
leverage.
C
So
I
believe
we've
covered
everything
it
now
has
the
upgraded
metal
spring
in
it
and
they
all
print
really
nicely
without
supports
in
general,
and
it
prints
really
fast
as
well.
Oh,
there
are
finger
covers
on
the
back
of
these
fingers
right
now
on
this
particular
version,
we
made
them
the
same
color
as
the
the
main
finger
itself,
but
there's
an
ability
you
have
to
print
the
covers
in
a
different
color.
C
If
you
want
that
type
of
look
and
some
I've
got
a
red
robot
arm
that
we'll
look
at
later,
where
I
did
that
and
it's
pretty
interesting,
it
gives
you
a
lot
of
new
color
options
and
customizability.
C
Here's
the
classic
kwabu
we're
looking
to
upgrade
that
the
beauty
of
the
niop
system
is
all
these
other
hand
designs
like
the
k1
and
the
new
kuawu,
as
well
as
the
old
kwawu
they're
going
to
be
similar,
and
so
I
can
now
just
adjust
them
to
work
with
the
wrist
pin
or
with
the
back
of
the
there's
another
connection
at
the
back
of
the
hand
that
I
can
unbolt
into
now,
and
so
we've
got
quite
a
few
different
options.
C
C
A
C
A
The
reason
I
think
the
reason
for
the
question
is
we
we
actually
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
good
things
about
the
k1
in
terms
of
you
know
how
it
functions
and
it's
it's
pretty,
but
we
haven't
heard
anyone
really
speak
highly
of
it
in
terms
of
a
functional
device.
So
we
I
I
wanted
to
clarify.
If
that's
what
you
meant.
C
Okay,
so
just
to
be
clear,
I'm
looking
to
take
the
cosmetic
look
of
the
hand
scan
from
the
kwawu.
I
am
getting
ready
to
redesign
it
into
arcs
functionality
yeah,
so
it
will
look
like
a
kwawu
but
have
the
pulley
on
the
inside
the
leveraged
whipple
tree.
Silicone
fingertips
that
whole
nine
yards
be
easier
to
print,
have
stronger
quality
parts
as
a
result,
because
I'm
going
to
change
the
way
the
finger
connections
work.
C
So
the
split
happens
on
the
outside
of
the
fingers,
rather
than
the
outside
of
the
palm
I'll
get
into
all
that
later,
but
we're
going
to
go
through
I'm
going
to
fundamentally
look
at
the
way.
All
these
different
hand
designs
work.
I
would
also
like
to
get
a
multi-segmented
palm,
so
the
inside
of
the
palm
can
bend
in
this
way,
not
just
the
fingers
bend
down,
but
the
whole
hand
closed
like
this.
I
want
the
hands
the
fingers
all
splayed
like
the
koala
is
so
it
has
good.
C
There's
good
features
all
over
to
answer
john's
question.
I
haven't
reviewed
either
the
kinetic
or
the
k1.
I've
been
on
vacation
pretty
much
for
the
entire
year,
but
when
I
do
the
review,
that's
where
I'm
going
to
do
is
pull
all
those
different
qualities
together
to
make
this
new
design,
which
will
be
the
upper
limb
team
hand.
That
was
the
old
hand
we
were
looking
at
back
a
year
ago.
Actually,
I'm
just
continuing
forward
with
the
design.
C
The
other
aspect
of
that
whole
thing
that
will
happen
with
that
is
we're
gonna
make
it
so
it'll
be
there'll,
be
several
mods.
You
can
use
of
that
hand
where
there's
gonna
be
one
with
a
spring
recoil
then
there'll
be
a
passive
version
that
just
has
the
spring
wired
into
the
driveline,
so
you
can
it'll
just
always
close
spring-loaded,
then
we'll
have
a
version.
That's
also
positionable,
where
each
of
the
finger
joints
will
just
have
different
settings.
C
They
can
lock
in
at
like
how
the
thumb
is
positionable
in
three
settings
now
and
what
that'll
allow
you
to
do.
Is
I've
had
requests
from
ahmad
in
syria
to
be
able
to
bend
the
pinky
down
like
this
and
hold
with
the
rest
of
the
hand
like
this
to
hold
a
cell
phone
and
that's
a
very
valuable
thing
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
so
we're
doing
that?
We're
also
looking
at
putting
a
a
battery
cast
into
the
silicone
on
the
end
of
your
index
finger.
C
So
you
can
use
it
as
a
stylus,
because,
if
a
bat,
if
you
have
anything
with
a
charge
in
there,
you
can
use
it
as
a
bio
feedback
stylus
on
the
end.
But
we
haven't
developed
that
even
the
slightest
amount
of
silicone
over
the
battery
will
stop
the
ability
of
for
the
cell
phone
to
be
able
to
register
it
or
touch
screen
because
it'll
work
on
pads
or
whatever.
C
A
C
Cool,
so
we
have
we're
we're
working
on
development.
I
haven't
uploaded
them
to
thingiverse
yet,
but
the
the
v2
versions
of
everything
have
the
modified
arms
with
the
modified
cam
and
the
the
arcs
hand,
so
it
all
kind
of
goes
together.
The
modified
cam
version,
I
think,
is
great
for
the
original
kwawu
as
well,
because
it
increases
the
grip
strength
on
it.
It'll
probably
hopefully
get
that
finger
to
connect
and
close.
Now,
I'm
looking
forward.
A
C
To
this
end,
though
jeremy,
it
it
kind
of
helps.
All
of
this
is
interchangeable
too,
so
you
could
still
take
an
arc's
hand
or
put
a
koala
hand
on
one
of
the
ark's
arms
or
whatever.
That's
probably,
the
way
to
go.
You'd
always
want
to
take
work
with
the
newest
quality
device
itself
of.
C
C
So
part
of
the
beauty
of
the
niop
system
is
its
custom
ability
as
far
as
your
personalization
for
the
different
devices,
so
here's
the
demo
arm.
We
have
made
a
lot
of
these.
In
fact
here
you
can
see
custom
ability
in
these
two
things.
Here
we
have
a
winter
soldier
cover
printed
all
in
silver.
Here
we
have
a
winter
soldier
cover
printed
with
the
bottom
layer
black.
So
it
gets
this
vent
effect
on
it.
It
looks
very
different
and
it's
all
just
in
the
printing
method.
C
I
used
it's
just
the
filament
used
on
the
same
stl,
and
then
we
have
all
these
different
ones
like
here
you
like
the
denver
broncos.
We
can
throw
those
on
there
spiderman
we
got
your
guy.
I
know
this
is
old
playstation
for
all
the
the
true
people,
but
like
we've,
got
lots
of
options
and
I'll
get
into
that
later.
C
If
we
have
time
otherwise
we'll
have
to
do
another
one
of
these,
maybe
later
so
we're
starting
to
work
on
bionics
right
now,
the
one
tested
and
true
bionic
design
we
have
is
the
old
qual
bionic
that
sean
matheson
made
for
us.
I,
like
the
grip
function
that
we
get
out
of
the
out
of
the
joystick,
where
you
can
choose
the
different
grips
by
just
pushing
the
joystick
to
different
directions.
C
What
I'm
trying
to
do
is
get
a
a
a
toggle
on
that
use
like
a
game.
Stick
where
you
pop
the
joystick
down
and
have
it
pop
into
new
banks
of
options,
so
one
bank
will
be
hand.
Control
next
bank
is
wrist
control
where
left
and
right
is
rotation
of
the
wrist
or
tilt
with
up
and
down.
Next
one
would
be
elbow
that
would
be
rotation
of
the
elbow
this
way
or
up
and
down,
and
then
shoulder
might
just
be
forward
and
backward,
because
we're
trying
to
limit
that
one.
C
C
I
do
not
have
the
prayer
arm
in
here
yet,
but
that's
an
extension
of
the
prayer
hand
and
the
exo
glove
so
the
prayer
hand
and
the
exo
glove
are
really
neat
devices,
because
what
this
does
is
gives
you
orthotic
or
prosthetic
solutions
for
any
combination
of
missing
or
paralyzed
fingers,
and
you
can
mix
and
match
between
the
two.
So
you
could
be
an
amputee
who
had
a
stroke
and
still
be
able
to
get
something
with
prosthetic
fingers
where
you're
missing
them
and
a
full
power
assistance
for
the
whole
device.
C
So
we're
still
working
on
this.
I've
got
ahmad
and
syria
working
with
testing
prototypes.
For
me,
that's
the
that's
the
goal
we're
trying
to
reach
here,
though,
and
what
this
would
do
is
basically,
it's
got
arcs
fingers
on
the
end
of
the
prayer
hand,
and
so
silicone
fingertips
and
a
silicone
pad
on
it.
So
it's
got
increased
grip.
C
You
we
don't
have
the
option
of
the
pulley
in
this,
because
you
got
your
hand
in
there
where
we
used
to
put
the
pulley
and
we
might
put
it
externally
on
the
top,
but
right
now
it's
it's
very.
It's
very
minimalistic
to
try
and
keep
it
clean.
John,
do
you
have
another
question.
D
I
do
I
have
never
seen
a
prayer
hand
in
in
reality
or
in
the
wild.
Can
you
bring
us
up
to
date
on
that.
C
C
C
This
is
hard
for
me
to
hold
hold
on
we're
going
through
and
putting
spring
tension
on
the
one
side.
I
was
trying
really
hard
to
make
it
voluntary,
open
and
voluntary
closed,
which
I
think
it
was
just
grabbing
me
right
there.
So
it
does
work.
It
does
grab
stuff
we're
missing
the
silicone
fingertips
on
the
end,
because
the
way
arcs
fingers
work
is
you've
got
two
screws.
In
the
end,
one
tightens
the
drive
line.
C
One
tightens
the
recoil
line,
so
you
can
adjust
each
one
individually
on
each
finger
because
they've
all
got
different
circuits,
so
you
can
adjust
everything
that
way.
I
think,
ultimately,
because
of
that
adjustment
and
stuff,
we
will
be
able
to
get
it
to
work.
Voluntary,
open
and
voluntary
close.
The
problem
was:
is
it
has
a
point
right
here
in
the
middle,
where
the
fingers,
the
it
closes
and
locks
itself
up?
Where
you
can't
open
it?
It
has
a
a
there's,
a
natural
point,
where
they
fight
against
each
other.
C
So
I've
got
to
come
up
with
an
answer
for
how
to
counteract
that.
In
the
meantime,
we're
just
going
to
go
to
spring
recoil
as
a
way
to
get
the
device
out
there
until
the
development
of
the
voluntary,
open
and
voluntary
close
is
completed,
and
that's
the
reason
with
the
delay
on
the
whole
thing,
the
other,
the
other
big
delay
is
I've
been
waiting
to
be
able
to
open
scad
the
whole
thing,
and
I
have
to
learn
openscad
at
this
point.
I
just
need
to
do
it.
C
I
just
need
to
learn
openstack,
so
I
can
do
all
my
own
devices
that
way,
but
okay,
the
beauty
of
it,
is
if
you
can
see
how
the
fingers
attach
the
the
palm
piece
is
obviously
printed
flat,
and
then
you
bend
down
these
finger
tabs
that
the
finger
is
attached
to,
but
the
finger
tabs
can
be
added
or
removed
through
the
open
scad
on
demand
through
the
menu.
C
So
like
you'll,
be
able
to
do
all
the
customization
right
through
openscad
without
having
to
know
how
to
do
any
other
cad
software.
Just
picking
we're
going
to
set
it
up
with
menus
like
each
finger.
You'll
be
able
to
set
it
to
orthotic
prosthetic
or
it's
going
to
be
orthotic
full
prosthetic,
one-digit,
two-digit
or
natural,
and
then
it's
just
a
pass-through
hole.
D
A
Just
a
side
note
here,
you
know
it's
interesting
to
note
that
the
you
know
you
talk
about
doing
openscad,
which
has
a
lot
of
power
to
it.
A
lot
of
people
aren't,
you
know
comfortable
using
it,
though,
as
as
end
users
and
that's
why
the
thingyverse
customizer
was
so
nice
because
you
could
build
these
really
nice
easy
to
use
front
ends
built
off
of
openscad.
A
Unfortunately,
you
know
makerbot
never
really
did
anything
to
maintain
it.
It
was
down
more
often
than
not
for
anyone
haven't
heard
just
yesterday.
It
was
announced
that
makerbot
and
ultimaker
are
merging,
and
so
that
probably
means
that
they're
going
to
kind
of
revitalize
that
platform
and
make
some
investments
which
makerbot
never
really
did.
A
I
I
actually
talked
to
some
people
about
this
at
ultimaker,
so
nobody
knows
yet,
but
there's
a
good
chance
that
we
might
have
some
some
opportunities
to
to
leverage
that
you
know
down
the
road
and
it
might
be
more
alive.
C
Well,
that
would
be
cool
in
the
meantime,
jeremy.
I'm
gonna
keep
charging
forward
with
the
tools
that
we
have.
Oh.
A
Absolutely
that's
why
I
was
saying
I
mean,
because
you're
building
an
open
scan
if
that
becomes
available
later
it
would
be
easy
to
drop
it
in
there,
because
that's
what
it's
based
on
so
yeah.
C
Perfect
all
right,
I
figured
not
anyways
and
regardless
one
way
or
the
other,
you
still
have
to
get
the
parts
all
prep,
the
stls,
with
the
screw
voids
and
all
the
rest
of
that
prepped
anyways.
So
so.
C
C
We
get
the
hand
closed
and,
like
it'll
hold
itself
there.
C
And
there
you
can
see
the
more
aggressive
cam,
it's
just
larger.
A
Very
nice
yep
still
working
out
the
details
on
this
nate,
but
as
you're
aware,
we
have
that
device
catalog
on
the
hub,
which
we've
been
kind
of
trying
to
find
somebody
to
take
over
and
we're
having
discussions
now
with
ian
roy.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
him
but
he's
been
very
active
and
is
looking
at
possibly
taking
that
on
and
looking
at
maybe
shifting
us
over
to
using
the
nih
3d
print
exchange
as
sort
of
a
primary
basis
for
hosting
enabled
designs.
We
actually
already
have
a
catalog
set
up
there.
A
It's
just
out
of
date-
and
I
mentioned
this
only
because
when
you
share
this,
when
you
share
your
latest
catalog,
you
might
want
to
tag
ian
roy
just
to
make
him
aware
of
it,
because
I'm
encouraging
him
to
try
to
pull
together
a
plan
to
capture
these
designs
that
we
don't
have
in
our
catalog
yet
and
and
make
sure
that
we
bring
them
in.
So
you
might
want
to
just
call
his
attention
to
it
when
you
share
it
in
the
hub.
A
A
A
C
Nuts,
I'm
in
the
full
screen
mode
again.
C
Okay,
so
oh
there's
a
salvation
three,
the
legendary
salvation
three
for
the
transhumeral
guitar
playing.
This
is
the
red
robo
arm.
Now
this
is
using
an
arcs
hand.
You
can
see
the
finger
colors
or
the
singing
the
finger
covers
are
in
a
different
color.
Here
we
did
the
winter
soldier
thing
in
red
because
he
really
liked
the
way
the
black
one
came
out
and
then
so.
C
What
we
have
here
is
the
prayer
arm,
and
so
this
sucker
fits
on
the
back
of
a
prayer
hand
or
it
subs
out
in
the
place
where
the
old
kwawu
thermoform
used
to
be,
or
actually
the
thermoform
is
still
there.
This
is
for
people
with
non-functional
wrists,
that's
what
we're
doing
here,
and
so
it
features
the
exo
wrist
which
goes
around
a
non-functional
wrist.
So
you
can
add
a
prosthetic
hand
on
there.
These
connections
right
here
at
the
wrist,
also
fit
the
prayer
hand.
C
So
this
whole
device
is
modular
to
put
a
prosthetic
hand
on
there
with
ark's
hand
or
the
kwawu,
and
then
you
can
also
just
put
a
prayer
hand
on
here,
meaning
you
could
also
put
an
exo
glove
on
there,
meaning
this
whole
arm
can
facilitate
now
any
combination
of
digital
thing,
trans,
digital
or
trans
radial
options
and
stroke
conditions,
all
modularly
so
and.
C
There's
a
really
good
one
down
here.
There's
a
couple
good
pictures.
I
love
this
one
he's
looking
at
how
it
works
on
both
hands.
You
can
see
his
other
hand,
but
he
was
super
stoked
about
it.
I
love
this
look,
so
I
can
see
his
smile.
This
is
the
first
time
his
mom
grabbed
him
by
the
hand
with
that
arm,
and
so
he
was
like
wearing
it.
It's
awesome
anyways,
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
and
I
will
oh
john.
Are
you
asking
a
question
again.
D
I
am
two
questions.
One
is
congratulations.
It's
interesting
to
see
users.
I
wonder
if
you
can
comment
on
how
many
people
have
actually
gotten
real
world
experience
with
which
of
these
devices.
The
second
question
is
whether
these
designs
all
remain
open
source,
as
you
are
working
towards
a
business
model
as
well.
C
Yes,
okay,
so
I
understand
how
that
concern
would
come
up
with
iran.
Stop
sharing.
C
I
understand
how
that
concern
would
totally
come
up
with
the
new
designs
and
especially
making
a
company.
These
are
always
going
to
be
open
source,
I'm
never
going
to
mess
with
that
at
all.
I
want
the
designs
themselves
to
be
free.
If
I
make
one
for
you,
you
might
pay
me
to
help
print
one
for
you
or
whatever,
but
everybody
will
always
be
able
to
use
these.
There
are
there.
There
are
at
least
three
of
these
being
built
in
africa
right
now
there
are
going
to
be
three
more
built
in
chile.
C
Later
I
I've
got
to
get
the
new
contact
down
there,
the
the
files
for
the
prayer
arm
and
we're
working
on
developing
his
three
cases
are
the
three
spots
we
didn't
have
devices
for
so
we're
making
one
for
non-functional
wrists,
which
we've
already
got
now
we're
doing,
non-functional,
elbows
and
right
after
that,
we've
got
a
nub
shoulder
condition
so,
but
the
exo
elbow
is
already
in
production,
we're
putting
the
parts
together
and
stuff
and
getting
that
together.
C
The
prayer
arm
already
addresses
the
non-functional
wrist,
so
the
nub
shoulder
is
the
other
issue,
but
I
already
had
a
design
in
concept
for
that,
so
we're
working
on
it.
It's
just
the
hand.
Design
will
be
probably
first
but
probably
working
in
parallel
with
the
xo
elbow,
because
I
think
alfonso
is
going
to
be
working
on
that,
while
I'm
doing
the
hand
design
kind
of
like
how
ahmad
does
stuff
while
I'm
working
on
the
designs
cool
there
was
also
the
foot
stuff,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
do
that.
Another
day.
Yeah.
A
C
A
Share
this
when
you
share
it
in
the
hub
just
a
suggestion
for
that.
Oh,
what's
the
name
of
your
guitar
pick
arm
again
salvation
yeah,
when
you
share
that
one
I
know:
you're
a
guitar
player
share
a
little
video
clip
showing
it
in
use.
C
A
C
Any
superheroes
that
tend
to
come
get
pumped
out
all
the
good
stuff
right.
Nice.
A
Thank
you.
It's
a
great
presentation.
We
can
always
have
you
back
I'd
love
to
get
a
follow-up
on
that
and
and
have
more
time
to
dive
deeper
into
some
of
those
things.
Maybe
we'll
maybe
we'll
look
at
feet
next
time,
but
thank
you
for
sharing
that
anyone
have
any
real,
quick
questions.
I'd
ask
that
we
try
to
keep
it
real
short
here.
So
we
have
time
for
a
couple
of
other
topics,
but
any
quick
questions.
B
Developments
that
you've
been
working
in
the
several
chapters
like
the
humanoid
in
colombia,
paraguay
they've,
been
doing
a
lot
of
lower
limb
development
it'd
be
great
to
see
what
you're
working
on
and
connect
the
thoughts
between
you
guys.
C
Okay,
that'd
be
great
if
you
can
help
facilitate
some
of
that
ben
because,
like
I
said
I
haven't
been
as
aware
of
all
these
different
happenings
within
the
community.
Just
I've
been
distracted
so
I'll.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll
flag
you
on
the
post
and
then,
if
you
can
kind
of
help,
facilitate
and
direct
me.
That
would
be
awesome,
because
I
have
no
problem
doing
that.
C
A
It
might
be
worth
thinking
about
a
lower
limb
working
group
at
some
point.
If
there
was
somebody
that
wanted
to
take
the
lead
on
that,
we
have
a
number
of
other
kind
of
working
groups.
You
know
we've
got
a
bionics
group,
we've
got
a
you
know,
group
working
on
a
new
hand,
design.
You
know,
there's
these
different
groups
that
are
establishing
their
own
kind
of
cycle
of
regular
meetings.
It's
all
about
having
somebody
that
kind
of
wants
to
step
up
and
and
lead
and
organize
something
like
that,
but
just
food
for
thought.
C
C
B
That's
awesome
yeah.
Maybe
you
can
even
just
ask
anthony
to
make
that
post.
The
other
quick
question
I
had
was
nate.
Are
you
able
to
join
at
1pm
today
to
jack
buchanan's
presentation?
I.
C
A
All
right,
so
I
I
do
want
to
try
to
get
to
just
a
couple
of
topics
here
before
we
wrap
up.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Nate,
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
that
and
we'll
get
that
into
the
hub
for
those
that
want
to
try
it
out.
There's
been
a
time
zone
issue
with
the
hub,
that's
been
causing
some
confusion
with
appointments
ben.
What's
the
latest
on
that?
Is
that
still
an
ongoing
issue.
B
It
does
seem
like
it's
something
that
I
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what's
causing
it
if,
if
it's
something
that
has
to
do
with
just
basically
logging
in,
if
somebody
isn't
not
logged
in,
I
think
it
goes
back
and
defaults
to
basically,
scandinavia,
if
they
are
logged
in
it'll,
be
connected
to
their
account.
But
again,
it's
like
a
manual
process.
John's,
got
his
hand
raised
you.
A
Know
I
don't
I'll
just
say
before
I
turn
it
to
john.
I
don't
know
if
this
helps,
but
whenever
I
post
like
when
we
do
these
town
hall
meetings,
you'll
see
that
I
always
add
a
link
at
the
time
that
links
to
this
site
called
time
be,
which
then
uses
your
browser
to
detect
where
you
are
and
it'll
automatically
translate
that
into
your
local
time.
So,
even
if
the
hub
has
the
wrong
time,
if
they
click
on
that,
they
will
always
see
what
time
it
is
in
their
time
zone.
A
B
Now
that
time,
that
link
does
that
change?
Does
the
text
actually
change,
depending
on.
A
A
D
B
Yeah
and
I've
been
thinking,
I'm
just
linking
the
posts
that
we
made
about
the
time
zones
and
reminding
people.
So
I
think
that
that's
that's
the.
I
did
that
with
the
presentation
today
with
jack,
buchanan
and,
and
hopefully
people
will
just
make
the
adjustments
themselves.
A
A
One
other
thing
I
have
to
bring
up
and
we
don't
need
to
have
a
have
a
solution
to
this
today,
but
it
became
it
came
to
my
attention
recently
that
we
are
actually
exceeding
the
amount
that
we
were
allotted
for
our
grant
from
microsoft
for
azure
hosting
they
have
authorized
the
grant
that
we've
gotten
we've
had
it
renewed
we're
in
the
second
cycle
of
it
now
is
for
3
500
on
an
annual
basis
for
azure
hosting
services.
A
When
we
first
started
using
azure,
it
was
just
to
host
enable
web
central
and
we
weren't
having
any
issues
since
then,
we've
added
in
the
hub,
which
is
now
hosted
on
there
and
we're
starting
to
spin
up
other
services
like
for
the
other
sort
of
scaling
application
that
we're
working
on
there's
going
to
be
other
resource
needs
there.
The
bottom
line
is
that
we've
started
to
exceed
the
grant
so
that
I
am
now
getting
billed
out
of
pocket
about
500
a
month
on
our
azure
hosting.
A
We
have,
let
me
see,
where's
the
portal
here,
so
here's
where
we
are
in
the
year
to
date,
you
can
see
that
we've
already
accumulated
2100
shows
up
here
year
to
date,
with
the
projection
of
being
coming
up
on
six
thousand
dollars.
That's
that's
probably
going
to
hit
6000
or
more
actually
we're
going
to
add
these
additional
resources
for
this
application
we're
working
on.
A
So
we
are
at
a
point
now,
where
I'm
going
to
have
to
ask
for
some
reimbursement
out
of
the
enable
fund,
because
that's
coming
out
of
pocket
now
and
I
hadn't
realized-
I
would
have
told
you
in
advance,
but
I
just
noticed
that
the
last
three
months
they
had
billed
me-
I
wasn't
aware
of
it
before
that.
So,
like
I
said,
we
don't
need
to
come
up
with
a
solution
for
this
today,
but
maybe
we
can
talk
about
that
next
time
and
figure
out
how
to
handle
that
going
forward.
D
Supposedly
vms.
A
Yeah,
there's
actually
a
cost
breakdown,
so
you
can
see
down
here.
There's
the
azure
app
service,
virtual
machines,
sql
database
and
storage.
Those
are
the
big
items
contributing
to
the
cost.
D
D
So
if
we,
if
we
definitely
know
we're
going
to
use
like
500
bucks
worth
of
of
vms,
we
can
potentially
save
a
fair
amount
of
money
by
saying
we
want
to
buy
these
buy
this
amount
of
capacity
for
the
next
year.
That
might
be
a
good
way
to
reduce
our
costs
in
the
short
term.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
good
idea.
I
mean
the
honestly.
The
bigger
discussion
here
is.
This
is
one
other
area
that
I'm
going
to
need
to
find
somebody
to
help
take
over,
because
I'm
trying
to
unplug
a
little
bit
from
some
of
these
time-consuming
and
cost
consuming
things.
So
eventually,
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
somebody
that
wants
to
take
over
the
azure
environment
and
the
management
of
that
and
the
budgeting
and
tracking
it's
just
I.
I
don't
have
time
to
manage
it
so,
right
now,
it's
unfortunately
all
tied
in
with
me
my
credit
card.
A
So
whenever
we
hit
an
overage,
it
just
gets
billed
to
me.
So
it's
something
we'll
have
to
figure
out
a
solution
for,
but
it
can
wait
till
next
week.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up.
B
A
quick
question,
too:
do
you
think
it
would
be
worth
pursuing
reaching
back
out
to
microsoft,
with
sort
of
an
extended
proposal
and
saying.
A
C
C
Well,
it
would
be
useful
for
other
people,
probably
too,
because
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
people
have
the
same
issue
if
they
set
up
parallel
structures.
Other
places
you
know
that's
just
I
I
just
was
thinking
that
might
be
a
way,
if
enable
just
had
a
card
number
that
people
could
use
for
those
type
of
purposes
when
they
do
that
setup.
You'd
never
have
to
worry
about
that.
Coming
back
on
the
individual.
A
Right
yeah,
we
also
talked
to
evan
about
that.
He
manages
our
finances.
If
we
have
a
bank
account,
so
it'd
be
easy
to
get
a
card.
We'd
want
to
make
sure
it's
one
where
you
can
easily
kind
of
generate
card
numbers
on
demand
and
shut
them
down
as
needed.
You
know,
there's
there's
cars
totally
that
these
days,
but.
A
Last
last
thing
I
wanted
to
look
at
real.
Quick
is
all
we'll
have
time
for
today,
because
I'm
going
to
take
a
couple
minutes
over
here
is
rick
williams
has
been
taking
over
the
help
desk
administration
and
the
badging
process
that
bob
rieger
had
been
handling
before
and
when
he
comes
across
tickets
in
the
system
that
he
feels
like
need
to
be
escalated.
He's
escalating
those
to
me
and
I'm
looking
at
these
and
more
and
more
I'm
feeling
like
well.
A
A
Some
of
these
are
just
new
tickets
coming
in
that
he
hasn't
looked
at
yet
so
we
can
ignore
those,
but
these
that
he
assigned
to
me
there
was
one
somebody
looking
for
someone
to
give
a
fab
talk
in
portugal,
and
I
believe
is
this,
the
one
john,
that
you
responded
to
me
saying
that
it
would
be
better
to
kind
of
try
to
engage
some
of
the
new
leadership
on
this
and
see
if
one
of
them
wants
to.
Is
this
the
one
that
we
were
talking
about?
A
B
So
it
looks
like
tanya
lurch
already
submitted
to
that.
Oh,
she
did
based
on
emails
from
just
before
this
meeting.
Actually,
you
know
15
minutes
ago
during
the
meeting
so.
A
So
I
can
just
respond
and
say
that
one
of
our
volunteers,
tanya
lerch,
already
submitted
a
proposal
for
this.
B
It
looks
like
yes,
so
that's
is
this
about
liz,
a
white
wolf
and
the
biannual
fab
educator
summit
july
29th.
A
A
I
guess
so.
They've
got
our
badges,
so
this
must
be
one
of
our
chapters,
I'm
just
yeah.
I
just
this
is
one
where
I
wasn't
quite
sure
how
to
respond
to
him.
So
I
guess
this
is
a
different
event
and
yeah
they're.
Looking
for
a
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
this
is
in
person
for
a
presentation
or
online,
I
don't
think
it
says
here.
B
Jeremy,
if
you
want
to
forward
that
to
me
perfect,
I.
B
Yeah
forward
it
to
me
I'll
see
in
the
the
educators-
and
I
think
I
think
we
can-
maybe
you
know-
share
this
regularly
via
email
or
via
the
hub
space,
the
educators
hub
space.
We
can
basically
just
have
a
a
little
pool
that
folks
can
fish
from
in
terms
of
doing
some
professional
development.
A
And
then
these
guys
reached
out
basically
interested
in
sponsoring.
It
strikes
me
that
these
guys
are
like
zipsprout.com,
so
they
must
be
some
kind
of
a
marketing
firm.
That's
that's
trying
to
get
their
clients
sort
of
plugged
in
as
sponsorships
to
get
them
more
publicity,
and
so
they
they
came
across
our
sponsor
page
on
the
naval
site
and
they're.
Saying
hey
we're
interested
in
sponsoring.
They
said
we
see
that
you
have
a
gold
sponsorship
level
for
a
hundred
dollars.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
take
advantage
of?
A
And
then
you
know,
as
the
emails
go
on
we're
talking
about
like
she's
got
questions?
Is
it
possible
to
keep
the
logo
link
up
the
website
for
at
least
12
months,
and
would
you
be
able
to
put
their
logo
and
link?
You
know
it's
like
for
a
hundred
dollars,
honestly
guys,
I'm,
like
I
don't
have
time
to
deal
with
this
like
we
already
have
more
money
than
we,
you
know
know
what
to
do
with
right
now.
So
this
is
one.
That's
like
you
know.
A
D
A
B
To
follow
up
with
them,
and
let
them
know
that
that
page,
those
are
thousands
of
dollars
that
those
folks
have
contributed.
We
don't
have
any
specific
mentions
for
100
donations,
but
john's
got
a
really
great
point,
so
you
could
say
for
that
page.
B
We
have
our
platinum
level
sponsors,
but
if
you
make
the
donation
on
open
collective
and
send
an
email
to
ben
at
enable.org,
he
can
make
a
post
thanking
you
publicly
on
our
hub
page
and
you'll,
be
listed
on
open
collective
for
your
your
mass
contribution.
Okay,.
D
B
Okay,
I
know
they
were
already
overtime.
I
have
sent
out
a
draft
version
of
an
article
about
dean,
rock
and
ashish,
and
the
rotary
club
in
maine
and
the
graviola
and
the
team
and
the
dominican
republic
dirt.
It
seems,
like
everybody
is
sort
of
happy
with
the
draft
so
far,
which
is
great.
There
could
be
some
opportunities
for
doing
an
event
in
the
dominican
republic
with
sponsors.
I
wanted
to
sort
of
pre-flag,
maybe
next
meeting.
B
If
we
could
talk
about
potentially
having
the
enable
fund
match
to
a
certain
level,
some
contributions,
we
can
try
to
get
some
some
sponsorship.
It
seems
like
a
really
great
opportunity
to
use
these
articles
to
actually
leverage
projects.
You
know
getting
the
team
in
dominican
republic,
some
support
for
their
their
center
and
they're
they're.
Actually,
building
this
and
they've
been
delayed
the
last
couple
years
from
the
pandemic,
but
maybe
we
can
have
a
vote
on
that
next
week.
A
Clarify
that
for
me
ben
vote,
you
want
to
vote
on
what
was
it
for
the
matching.
B
I
know
that
we
can
have
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
for
different
efforts.
I
think
if
we,
if
the
enable
fund
could
have
sort
of
a
matching
sponsorship
program
of
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
for
this
event
in
the
dominican
republic,
that
could
be
a
way
to
try
to
bring
in
some
some
other
contributors
and-
and
I
have
talked
to
kyle
and
he's
going
to
reach
out
to
reality.
But
it
could
be
interesting
to
have
and
it'll
be
a
focused
event.
So
it
won't
just
be.
B
You
know,
supporting
their
efforts,
kyle's
pretty
interested
in
zeroing
this
in
on
maybe
just
the
bus
project
that
they
have
for
doing
outreach.
Something
like
that.
It
would
be.
A
Okay,
we
gotta
go.
I
hope
to
see
some
of
you
in.
I
guess
about
50
minutes
now
for
the
follow-up
presentation
with
jack
buchanan
take
care,
everyone,
jeremy,.