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A
Okay
share
my
screen,
so
we
can
see
some
notes.
You
guys
seen
that
yep,
okay
and
good
morning,
ben
and
alexander,
welcome
guys
just
getting
started.
Okay.
So,
who
ben?
Are
you
in
a
position
to
take
care
of
notes?
Today?
Yep
I
can.
I
can
help
with
notes
for
sure
awesome
I'll.
Let
you
fill
in
the
names
then
don't
have
anybody
to
introduce.
A
Everybody
here
is
a
regular
okay
action
items
bob-
and
I
are
still
gonna-
do
some
kind
of
a
recorded
discussion
about
animal
prosthetics
just
to
give
people
kind
of
an
overview
of
the
process
there,
but
that's
sort
of
a
one-time
permits
thing
bob
any
updates
on
these
other
things.
You
said
you
were
able
to
reach
out
to
some
of
these
people.
B
You
know
it's
not
I'm
sorry,
it's
I!
I
have
still
a
few
lingering
things
I've
been
doing.
I
haven't
had
time
to
do
them
no
problem,
but
they
will
get
done
here.
A
Very
shortly,
oh
no
rush
at
all,
I'm
sorry
I
had
misunderstood.
I
thought
you
would
say
you
were
talking
about
the
the
bishnu
case
before
and
like
oh,
this
new.
A
A
Here
not
a
problem,
and
then
let
me
know
how
I
can
help
with
you.
Like,
I
said
you
and
I
maybe
could
just
jump
on
a
zoom
call
and
record
it
and
just
have
an
ad
hoc
discussion.
Even
that
would
maybe
be
helpful
to
some
folks
so
we'll
move
on
for
now,
because
we
don't
have
john
with
us,
I
suspect,
do
you
know
ben?
Is
he
giving
his
co-inter
presentation
right
now?
Is
that
maybe
why
he's
not
here,
I
never
did
find
out
when
he
was
giving
that
presentation.
I.
A
It
could
be
wrong,
though,
maybe
I
hope
we
get
a
link.
I
want
him
to
see
that
okay,
so
upcoming
presentations
we
got
next
week,
ali
and
kevin
can't
believe
it's
time
already,
but
they're
gonna
be
giving
us
their
summary
report
for
their
internship.
A
I
hate
to
let
them
go,
but
it'll
be
good.
Those
presentations
are
always
very
helpful.
So
I
look
forward
to
that
next
week.
A
And
as
far
as
hold
on
I'm
going
to
adjust
my
windows
here,
because
I
can't
see
everyone
in
one
second
and
I
want
to
also
pull
out
the
chat
for
youtube.
Give
me
one
second.
A
Apologies
folks,
I
usually
do
all
this
before
time.
I
was
running
late
today.
Okay,
so
here
are
the
statistics.
A
Nothing
really
that
I
would
call
attention
to
other
than
the
fact
that
somebody
got
a
payout,
because
our
enable
fund
has
gone
down
from
30
to
just
under
22.,
so
it
was
a
catch-up.
B
Of
expenses
for
four
or
five
months
period,
I
think
okay.
A
All
right,
so
we
know
we
have
some
other
payments
payments
coming
in
from
our
recurring
donors,
thanks
to
bob.
B
C
Gotcha:
okay,
how
does
how
does
these
these
numbers
work?
Is
it
something
that
it's
directly
from
open,
collective
or
is
there
a
separate
manual.
C
A
D
A
Okay,
so
we'll
probably
see
that
next
week,
I'm
sure
there's
a
delay,
it
probably
just
waits,
for
you
know
john
to
review
and
approve,
or
something
so
not
to
worry
upcoming,
meeting
or
recurring
meetings.
Rather,
we've
got
our
usual
list
here.
So
just
as
a
refresher,
we've
got
our
education
meetups,
the
first
mondays
of
the
month,
chapter
leaders,
the
second
mondays
device,
pilots,
the
third
mondays
and
those
are
all
at
12
eastern,
and
then
we
have
our
new
member
meetups
on
the
third
fridays
and
our
focus
follow-ups
on
the
fourth
fridays.
A
Those
are
both
at
one
eastern
and
then
there's
some
other
recurring
meetings
you
can
find
in
the
hub,
like
we
have
a
bionic
team
design.
Meeting
coming
up
so
keep
an
eye
on
on
the
calendar.
For
those
other
other
things,
the
only
one-time
event
I
have
on
the
radar
is
co-inter,
which
is
happening
as
we
speak.
I
I'm
told
john
has
already
given
a
presentation,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
a
link
to
that
soon,
so
that
we
can
see
that
anybody
else
have
anything
in
terms
of
events
that
I
might
not
be
aware
of.
A
No
okay
on.
We
go
to
our
discussion
topics.
I
posted
this
in
the
in
the
hub.
I
I
did
a
an
interview
with
these.
This
guy
that
runs
misfit
heroes
wanted
to
talk
to
me
about
enable,
so
I
put
up
the
video
and
it's
on
the
all
the
audio
podcast
platforms,
just
kind
of
talking
about
what
we
do
and
it's
out
there
if
anyone
wants
to
check
it
out.
A
A
That's
what
kevin
said
yeah,
but
I
I
I
still
think
maybe
we'll
skip
this
for
now
and
come
back
to
it,
because
I
I
really
want
ali
to
be
here
for
that
discussion.
So
we'll
come
back
to
talking
about
the
the
chapter
networking
event,
but
I
mean
she
did
great
work
on
it,
but
I
do
want
to
do
a
debrief
and
kind
of
take
a
talk
about
takeaways
john.
You
could
join
us
good,
we're
just
talking
about
whether
you
had
already
given
your
presentation
at
cointer.
I
take
it.
You
did.
A
A
Yes,
I
know
you're
in
the
car,
so
please
focus
on
your
driving,
but
I
did
want
to
kind
of
talk
about
just
going
over
a
recap
from
the
student
chapter
networking
event
we
were
holding
off
on
that.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
here
for
that.
So
are
you?
Okay
having
that
discussion,
while
you're
in
the
car.
A
Awesome,
okay,
so
obviously
we've
shared
the
the
recording
I've
got
the
link
in
here
in
my
notes
here
I
just
have
kind
of
overall
impressions
and
then
some
discussion
about
how
we
get
better
attendance
for
future
events
and
the
way
the
reason
I
put
that
in
there
is
just
I
guess
to
get
the
conversation
started.
I
want
to
say
that
ali,
I
think
you
did
a
phenomenal
job.
I
mean
so
much
work
went
into
this
and
I
think
there
are
so
many
valuable
takeaways
in
terms
of
what
we
can
it's
a
model
for.
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
really
thought
the
event
went
well
too
and
I
I
do
agree.
I
think
it
would
have
been
nice
to
have
more
chapter
representation,
I'm
putting
together
for
my
final
deliverables,
some
recommendations
moving
forward,
but
awesome.
I
guess
so.
We
had
around
40
people
sign
up
via
the
registration
link
and
there
was
a
lot
of
like
inquiry
about
the
event
and
it
seemed
like
we
had
anywhere
between
20
and
30
people
consistently
throughout
the
day
and
some
people
joined
for.
A
A
E
A
C
C
F
It
is,
it
is
content
that
would
have
benefited
far
more
people
if
we
could
do
it.
So
I
I
think
it
is
clear
that
if
we
can
put
on
a
quality
event
like
this,
getting
more
people
to
be
able
to
benefit
from
it
is
a
good
thing.
Well
sure
I
was.
C
Going
to
say
it's,
it's
it's
quite
a
accomplishment
to,
after
whatever
it
was
seven
or
eight
hours
straight
of
zoom
to
still
have
20
people,
people
join
and
leave,
and
I
think,
there's
probably
a
lot
more
than
40
people
that
were
involved
throughout
the
day.
A
A
C
Great,
I
can
send
you
some
links.
I
I
read
a
little
bit
about
how
to
how
to
get
it.
It
might
be
something
where
it
just
spits
back
like
this
big
log
sheet,
but
we
can
sort
of
parse
it
out.
A
A
So
other
yeah
other
other
thoughts,
and
I
I
do
I
do
want
to
respect
the
fact
that
ali
is
going
to
be
covering
all
this
next
week.
So
we
don't
need
to
pre-empt
that
presentation.
Just
just
wanted
to
give
others
an
opportunity
to
chime
in
here.
If
others
have
feedback
or
comments,
otherwise
we
can
move
on
and
get
to
it
next
week.
A
Okay,
why
don't
we
do
that?
Then
I'll,
look
forward
to
ali's
presentation
next
week
and
I'm
sure
we'll
have
lots
more
insights
that
we
can
use
going
forward.
So
on
we
go.
I
wanted
to
have
an
infrastructure
related
discussion,
partly
because
I'm
just
so
excited
about
the
work
that
andrew
and
his
team
are
doing
on
this
new
app
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
capturing
measurements
and
using
that
to
generate
truly
parametrically
scaled
stl
files
for
our
upcoming
design
and
future
designs.
A
It's
very
exciting
work
and
it
continues
to
come
along
very
well
both
thanks
to
the
work
on
the
application
side
of
things
that
andrew
is
doing
and
also
on
the
design
side
of
things
thanks
to
alexander.
In
fact,
alexander
pulled
an
all-nighter
last
night
after
our
thursday
design
team
meeting,
and
he
actually
accomplished
all
of
the
ambitious
goals
that
we
laid
out
in
that
meeting
in
one
night
and
and
shared
with
me.
The
results
so
we're
going
to
give
a
little
demo
of
that
today.
A
Just
because
I
found
it
so
exciting,
we're
not
ready
to
share
our
design.
Yet
there's
still
lots
of
work
to
be
done,
but
it's
I.
I
do
think
it's
at
a
point
where
I
want
to
show
off
a
little
bit
of
what
we're
doing
so
we're
just
going
to
give
a
quick
demo
here
and
alexander.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'm
going
to
show
first
my
screen
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
just
because
I
wanted
to
show
people
just
kind
of
the
the
big
picture
of
what
we're
doing
here.
G
A
And
so
this
is
what
alexander
put
together
last
night
that
the
hand
part
and
I'm
going
to.
Let
him
take
you
through
all
of
that
and
what
what
you're
seeing
there
and
why
it's
so
impressive.
What
I'm
showing
you
here
is
just
a
preview
of
kind
of
the
approach
we're
taking
on
this
design,
which
is
a
very
aesthetically
pleasing
hand,
modeled
off
of
the
kinetic
hand,
and
and
making
modifications
off
that
this
is
not
a
final
design.
A
So,
yes,
we
know
that
there
are
going
to
be
changes
to
the
shape
and
the
opening
in
the
back
and
all
it's
a
work
in
progress,
but
a
very
nice
looking
hand
paired
with
a
very
different
looking
cuff,
and
that's
just
this
little
thing
that
sits
on
the
top
of
the
forearm,
we'll
be
adjusting
the
shape
and
all
but
it'll
be
pretty
simple
like
this
with
channels,
and
this
is
going
to
be
a
push-pull
design.
So
each
of
these
channels
is
going
to
have
a
single
monofilament,
just
a
string
of
nylon
that
goes
through.
A
That
runs
into
each
of
those
channels
in
the
hand,
and
that's
going
to
do
the
pushing
and
the
pulling
it's
going
to
go
both
directions
that
way,
no
elastics,
and
if
you
can
imagine
this
chainmail
kind
of
wrapping
around
your
forearm
and
then
hooking
into
these
slots
on
the
side
of
the
of
the
little
cuff
piece
here
so
that
it'll
it'll
sort
of
conform
to
the
the
beauty
of
this
approach
is
that
we
get
that
conformance
being
able
to
shape
to
one's
anatomy
without
having
to
mess
around
with
printing
flexible
materials.
A
You
get
a
flexible
sort
of
result
here,
but
it's
printed
in
a
rigid
material.
That's
why
we've
really
kind
of
fallen
in
love
with
the
chainmail
concept,
and
so
you
would
sort
of
wrap
that
around
and
that'll
hook
in
and
then
similarly
there's
going
to
be
a
chain
mail
sort
of
a
covering
of
for
the
palm
and
just
a
thin
sort
of
a
chain.
A
Male
linkage
between
them
and
you'll
see
that
that's
actually,
the
only
linkage
there
are
not
going
to
be
side
hinges,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
connection
between
the
cuff
and
the
hand
other
than
that
connection
point
at
the
bottom
and
that's
to
allow
this
sort
of
lateral
and
rotational
flexibility
which
is
going
to
let
us
do
variable,
grips
and,
and
things
like
that,
so
some
sort
of
differences
in
in
the
overall
design.
But
now
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
alexander
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
really
exciting
part.
G
A
G
So
I
started
by
figuring
out
the
parameters
by
parts
which
is,
of
course,
we
need
the
free
non-uniform
scaling
parameters
for
the
palm
itself,
and
then
we
need
a
bunch
of
parameters
for
the
joints
themselves,
which
we
are
using,
that
joint
negative
boolean
operation
technique,
the
wire
size
and
a
bunch
of
dimensions
for
the
chainmail
which
are
currently
not
implemented.
G
Now
the
fancy
part
of
being
able
to
do
this
is
that
I
managed
to
make
the
file
editable
completely.
So
I
think
this
is
best
understood
if
I
showcase
it.
Let's
say
I
want
to
modify
this
particular
wire
right,
in
which
case
let's
say
I
want
to
make
it
higher.
I
just
grab
this
point.
Of
course
you
would
have
to
understand
cut
if
you
want
to
make
this
modification,
but
I
just
have
to
grab
this
point,
drag
it
higher.
G
Now
it
regenerates
the
entire
thing
and
you
have
this-
this
wire
cutting
higher.
Now
this
is
available
for
everything
that
I've
made
in
here,
including
the
sculptural,
the
sculpture
of
the
hand,
the
position
and
angles
of
each
of
these
joints
and
the
parametric
sizing
of
the
joints
and
the
position
and
the
angle
of
the
of
the
thumb.
G
All
right,
let
me
try
to
share
it
again
in
another
way:
oh
no!
It's
shared
with
the
full
screen
all
right
right,
so.
G
For
example,
the
fingers
they
don't,
they
are
not
all
parallel
and
they
don't
all
bend
straight
downward,
and
this
can
be
easily
modified
when
you're,
making
the
sculpture
of
the
hand
itself.
A
Do
some
manipulation,
alexander,
because
I
do
want
to
I
do
want
to
keep
this
as
a
short
demo.
We
will
give
a
full
presentation
once
we're
ready
a
little
further
along
later,
but
just
you
know
manipulate
a
few
of
the
the
things
that
you
can
control
in
here
like
some
of
the
parameters,
so
we
can
see
how
it
changes
if.
G
G
F
And
yet
all
of
the
voids
and
all
of
the
mechanical
hinges
are
guaranteed
to
remain
aligned
appropriately.
A
So,
let's,
let's
put
this
into
a
little
bit
more
context
for
the
for
the
folks
here
that
haven't
been
part
of
these
discussions.
What
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
when
we
release
this
it'll,
be
kind
of
like
two
versions:
there'll
be
the
version
that's
available
through
the
app
that
andrew
is
building
so
that
for
basic
scaling.
A
You
take
measurements,
you
put
in
your
measurements,
you
get
back
your
scaled
stl
files,
you're
never
going
to
have
to
go
in
here
and
mess
with
any
of
the
stuff
alexander
is
showing
you
that's
going
to
be
handled
through
the
app
for
the
more
advanced
users.
We
also
want
to
give
them
the
option
to
come
in
and
do
what
alexander
is
doing
and
start
modifying
the
positions
of
the
splines
and
changing
directions
and
shape.
We
want
to
let
you
do
all
that,
but
you
don't
have
to
do
any
of
that.
A
That's
only
for
the
advanced
folks.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
that
the
the
the
majority
of
our
volunteers
are
going
to
have
the
ability
to
just
take
a
few
measurements.
Put
those
into
the
app
click
a
button
and
you'll
get
all
the
stl
files
ready
to
put
on
your
printer
that
will
have
all
of
these
benefits
sort
of
built
into
it.
That'll
be
handled
automatically
really
impressive.
On
the.
F
Other
hand,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
people
who
are
seeking
to
modify
a
design
will
be
able
to
either
modify
this
and
have
help
keeping
it
from
from
have
help
keeping
it
compatible
with
the
customization
system.
Right.
G
I
want
to
showcase
the
alignment
plates.
Let's
say
I
want
this
entire
joint
dragged
closer
to
the
to
the
hand
I
select
the
specific
alignment
plate
in
the
history
of
changes.
G
G
A
It's
it's
hard
to
appreciate
everything
that's
going
on
here.
I
mean
everything
that
he's
now
doing
and
being
able
all
these
manipulations
that
we're
able
to
do
tie
back
to
an
earlier
innovation
of
alexander's,
which
is
to
use
this
approach
of
taking
negatives,
building
the
negatives
of
these
joints
and
cutting
those
out
of
a
solid
body
which
allows
a
degree
of
of
freedom
and
and
customization
that
we
didn't
have
before
when
those
joints
were
modeled
right
into
the
design
itself.
A
G
Sure,
currently
you
you,
your
the
objects,
are
see-through
to
help
in
the
development.
I
can
make
them
solid
or
I
can
show
you
the
joints
them.
No,
those
are
the
joint
negatives.
What
do
you
want
to
see
in
here.
A
It's
different
in
its
approach
of
how
it's
being
created.
The
end
result,
you
know,
should
be
pretty
familiar.
I
mean
the
the
hinges
and
the
fingers,
except
that
it's
going
to
be
a
a
sort
of
a
filament
pin
hinge,
so
no
hardware
needed
there,
but
yeah
so
he's
actually
created
models
for
basically
all
the
spaces
in
those
joints
that
are
being
used
to
then
cut
that
out
from
a
solid
finger,
and
the
result
is
what
you
see
it's
very.
It's
very
clever.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
alexander.
That
was
just
I
mean
amazing
work
for
a
a
long
night.
A
I
need
to
get
some
rest
all
right.
Let
me
get
my
notes
back
up
here,
all
right,
so
we
talked
last
week
actually
holiday
week,
so
most
people
couldn't
attend,
but
we
did
end
up
having
a
very
interesting
discussion.
Alexander
andrew
and
myself
so
check
out
the
recording.
If
you're
interested,
we
ended
up
having
a
lot
of
discussion
about
enable
web
central
and
the
other
matching
app
that
we
have
to
evaluate
from
france
and
kind
of
what
we
want
to
do
going
forward,
and
the
discussion
came
from
kind
of
some.
A
A
You
know,
and
you
know,
recommended
a
scaling
and
then
the
recipient
has
to
approve
that.
You
know
we're
going
to
eliminate
that
you
know
you
take
on
a
case.
You
just
do
the
case.
You
update
your
you
know
enable
web
central
with
your
results,
we're
going
to
really
make
it
a
lot
simpler
as
far
as
the
workflow
and
that's
as
big
of
a
change
that
is,
it
shouldn't
be
too
hard
from
a
development
point
of
view,
because
we're
basically
just
bypassing
a
lot
of
stuff.
So
I
think
that'll
be
helpful.
A
A
Back
and
forth
yeah
we
talked
about
the
need
to
get
people
into
it.
You
know
I
was.
I
was
on
the
call.
Also.
Oh,
that's
right,
bob,
I'm
sorry!
You
did
join
us
after
well.
Thank
you
yeah,
but
I
don't
recall
if
we,
if
we
give
ourselves
any
other
action
items
other
than
eliminating
as
much
of
that
back
and
forth
as
we
could.
G
A
Yeah.
Okay,
so
I
don't
know
how
much
we
want
to
get
into
this
today
I
mean
it's
a
bigger
discussion.
I
I
would
like
to
get
the
other
platform
up
and
running.
I
still
need
somebody
to
help
me
with
just
figuring
out
how
to
get
that
going
on
a
hosted,
wordpress
platform.
A
That's
right,
I'm
sorry
it
was,
and
maybe
who
else
was
there
alexa.
A
A
That
was
it
there.
You
go.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
anyway
yeah.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
proper.
You
know
ways
of
moving
forward
with
infrastructure
and
all
that-
and
I
I
don't
remember
that
we
came
away
with
anything
other
than
this
change.
I
guess
it
sounds
like
I'm.
Gonna
have
to
go
back
and
review
the
video
because
I
feel
like
there
are
other
things
we
talked
about
doing,
but
nobody
was
taking
it.
F
A
A
C
A
B
B
My
recollection
of
the
whole
thing
is
that
we
kind
of
decided-
maybe
you
need
to
go
back
to
scratch
on
this
whole
concept
of
a
matching,
and
therefore
we
discussed
the
various
platforms
that,
for
instance,
france
uses
and
what
what
enable
web
central
is.
But
we
decided
that
immediately.
We
would
stop
this
back
and
forth,
which
only
confuses
and
delays
web
central.
B
C
Suggestion
or
question
really
for
some
of
the
other
sites
when
they
do
this
management,
they
have
sort
of
a
moderator.
I
know
that
we've
got
some
international
people
that
they
just
get
overwhelmed.
I
wonder
if,
as
a
role
for
this,
we
could
have
sort
of
case
moderators
that
walk
people
through
it
instead
of
having
it
be
all
sort
of
like
an
online
order
kind
of
process,
it
might
be
something
that
involves
a
call
right.
C
I
know
I
did
that
personally
with
a
case
in
veracruz
in
mexico,
organizing
a
call
with
some
folks
in
mexico
that
were
local.
That
spoke
better
spanish
than
I
do,
but
I
wonder
if
that's
something
that
we
can
also
consider
sort
of
the
translation
as
being
moderated
by
a
sort
of
a
little
guide
role
or
facilitator.
A
Yeah
is
it
possible
that
I
did
not
record
last
week's
meeting
because
I'm
not
seeing
it
here,
I'm
wondering
if
it's
because
we
had
such
slim
attendance
in
the
beginning,
we
just
started
chatting
and
wasn't
we
weren't
planning.
A
So
I
think
I
never
started
the
recording
okay,
we're
gonna
have
to
recreate
our
discussion.
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
regroup
and
and
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do
again.
I
know
one
thing
that
we
can
work
on,
though,
is
that
simplification
in
enable
web
central
to
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
back
and
forth.
I.
D
A
A
And
that's
how
I
think
I
can
at
least
have
them
now.
I
can
have
them
work
on
that,
while
we
kind
of
think
about
the
bigger
picture
and
next
steps.
Okay,
good
enough,
I
I
do.
I
would
like
to
regroup
at
some
point
when
I
can
get
masby
and
alexander
and
other
interested
parties
back
together.
I
think
it
would.
It
would
lead
to
other
next
steps
that
we
maybe
didn't
capture
properly.
A
Okay.
Well,
let's
go
on
for
now.
Let's
see,
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
else
under
infrastructure.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
related
to
our
infrastructure
to
talk
about.
C
F
Well,
I
I
will
mention
that
kevin
is
going
to
be
splicing
the
launchpad
and
the
new
members
space
together.
F
And
they'll
be
doing
that
this
week,
so
you
may
get
a
caller
to
jeremy,
even
though
you're
very
busy,
but
we
did,
I
think,
come
up
with
a
way
of
doing
it.
That's
relatively
simple
and
he'll
be
presenting
that
next
week,
so
that
will
be
a
significant
change
to
the
hub
architecture
and
a
real
improvement.
I
think
I
would.
F
Right,
the
pins
post
in
the
new
member
space
will
link
to
the
to
the
launch
pad
and
say
new
members,
or
your
complete
guide
is
available
right
here.
C
There's
there's
some
complexity
to
it.
Actually,
there's
we've
got
two
spaces
right
now.
We've
got
a
a
pilot
sort
of
prototype.
That
kevin
is
finalizing,
that's
called
the
launch
pad
and
then
we've
got
this
new
member
space.
That's
active
that
all
new
members
there's
665
or
680
people
that
are
going
to
it.
So
we
have
to
pull
those
two
together.
The
tricky
part
for
kevin
is
going
to
be
to
take
his
whole
system
with
all
the
links.
C
A
A
A
No,
no,
that's
what
I'm
saying
we
should
not
do.
There
should
not
be
two
spaces.
We
already
have
a
new
members
space.
Everybody
gets
added
to
it
automatically.
This
is
where
they're
going
to
come.
You
can
choose
whether
the
default
view
of
a
space
is
the
stream
which
it
is
now
or
the
wiki.
So
if
we
want,
we
could
just
have
it
default
to
the
wiki
page,
and
the
first
page
would
be
the
the
pro
the
dashboard
just
like
this.
C
There's
two
problems
with
that:
one
is
that
we
already
have,
as
you
can
see,
archives
on
the
wiki
that
are
useful.
People
do
also
use
the
stream,
but
also
the
second
thing
is
that
all
the
links
that
kevin
currently
has
developed
so
he's
got
this
whole
network
web
of
resources
and
they're
all
using
local
links
and
if
he
copies-
and
if
I
understand
this-
maybe
I'm
missing
something
kevin.
You
can
correct
me
if
he
copies
that
text
and
pastes
it
and
deletes
the
old
space
pastes
it
into
the
new
space
as
the
wiki.
D
D
That's
the
image
file
go
to
if
you
click
on
the
text,
recipient
of
device.
A
A
Well,
if
you,
if
there's
a
way
to
move
wiki
module,
I
don't
know
that
there
is
that
wiki
that
permalink
would
not
follow.
No,
not
if
we
copy
and
paste
so
that
is
something
we'd
have
to
deal
with,
but
there's
there's
got
to
be
a
way
to
move
it
with
links
staying
intact.
C
F
A
No,
we
I
I
I
know
that
they
first
of
all,
they
won't
get
broken
now,
because
the
space
is
there,
but
as
soon
as
we,
if
we
try
to
remove
the
space
they'd
all
break,
I
can
tell
you
that
without
a
doubt,
correct
them,
but
what
we
can
do
is
if
we
were
just
to
edit
this
pin
post
right
now.
This
pin
post
is
just
upcoming
events.
I
think
the
pin
post.
D
A
A
A
Okay,
that'll
work
so,
but
let
me
know
if
you
need
help
with
that,
but
I
think
with
that
approach
you
probably
won't
need
any
help
from
me.
D
D
F
D
C
C
You
can
have
under
settings,
or
maybe
it's
even
under
edit
page
or
whatever
it
is.
You
can
set
it
up.
So
there's
sort
of
admin
access
to
certain
things,
and
I
have
that
with
the
device
pilots
page.
I
have
access
to
the
contact
list
of
all
the
folks
that
are
in
that
group,
but
I
don't
have
that
public.
A
C
A
All
right
anything
else,
infrastructure
related,
then
all
right,
r
d
we
just
covered
with
our
little
demo.
I
did
want
to
share
that
because
I
thought
it
was
pretty
exciting
the
work
that
alexander
was
doing
so
that
new
design
is
coming
along
nicely
and
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
have
something
to
share
with
the
community
in
the
next.
Let's
say
one
to
two
months
I
mean
I
don't
think,
I'm
being
overly
ambitious.
There
we'll
see
anything
else
on
the
r
d
side
that
anybody
wants
to
talk
about,
alexander
or
others.
G
Definitely
the
hand
is
the
hand
as
it
is
right
now,
since
I've
already
placed
the
zip
tie.
Placement
in
there
is
the
mvp
of
the
project,
so
the
minimum
viable
product.
So
we
we
are
starting
to
need
people
to
actually
test
it.
A
I
I
gotta
hold
you
off
there
alexander,
I'm
not
ready
to
release
this
thing
widely,
yet
until
we
make
some
further
changes,
I
I
there's
some
things
that
I
spotted
already
that
I
know
to
be
an
issue
we
haven't
finished
with
the
cuff.
Yet
there's
a
few
more
things
that
I
want
to
get
done
and
then
we
will
absolutely
be
asking
people
to
help
test
it
right
now.
I
think
we
should
be
doing
our
testing
internally
within
the
team.
A
F
C
In
terms
of
r
d,
there's
been
a
bunch
of
posts
recently
that
have
been
pretty
active.
There's
a
woman
studying,
I
think
in
rome,
she's
working
on
her
thesis,
and
I
think
it
relates
to
some
projects
in
syria.
There's
been
a
bunch
of
people
commenting
on
that,
so
just
as
a
heads
up
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
hub
for
r
d,
it's
it's
been
pretty
active.
A
All
of
that
up
here
almost
I
was
actually
thinking
about
that
when
I
was
doing
the
statistics
today,
it
might
be
nice
to
you,
know
kind
of
highlight
our
most
popular
posts
from
time
to
time
like
this
week.
It's
the
one
that
you
were
talking
about,
people
working
in
which
one
was
this
is
this
in
syria.
I
think
yeah
working.
C
C
It
is
but
to
actually
take
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
yeah.
I
think
about
it,
a
lot
of
the
times
those
bot
posts
I
just
glaze
over,
because
I
know
that
they're,
I'm
kind
of
combing
through
it
all
anyways,
but
it
can
be
really
helpful.
There's
been
a
lot
of
interactions
and
it's
gone
over
the
course
of
a
couple
weeks,
yeah
folks
in
vietnam.
I
think
we're
also
interested
in
reaching
out.
So
that's
that's
a
pretty
far
net.
A
All
right.
Let's
see
just
a
little.
F
Go
for
it,
I
received
a
check
in
the
mail
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
from
the
dora
foundation,
bob
rieger
and
company.
B
A
You
howard,
okay,
is:
what
is
the
status
with
this
ico?
Create
collaboration?
Is
this
something
we're
still
pursuing.
F
Well,
it
is
so
alexander
and
I
have
been
attending
these
meetings
they're
led
by
roon
thoresen
from
a
large
ot
center
in
italy.
F
F
F
The
way
roon
describes
it
in
one
sentence,
which
is
not
the
way
I
would
like
it
to
be
described,
but
he's
taking
the
lead.
So
it's
his
right
to
take
a
shot
at
it.
He
says
we're
creating
the
largest
database
of
assistive
technology
solutions
in
the
world.
G
F
Okay,
so
these
are,
I
think,
all
going
to
be
low
cost
and
I
think
they
will
necessarily
a
criterion
will
be
open
source.
Also,
uniquely,
this
collection
will
be
curated
by
paid
occupational
therapists.
F
Who
will
evaluate
these
devices
now?
That's
the
way
he
describes
it,
also
in
the
disc,
in
the
larger
description,
the
notion
that
these
ots
will
be
available
to
consult
with
people
using
the
devices.
F
He
believes
it
will
because
he
thinks
that
microsoft
really
wants
data
that
they
can
feed
to
their
ai
systems.
I'm
not
sure
he's
reading
it
right,
but
that's
that's
the
status.
My
position
is
that
it's
a
it's
a
worthy
venture
that
it
could
turn
out
to
be
really
useful
and
that
roon
is
leading
and
that
both
enable
and
makers
making
change
are
happy
to
be
participants,
but.
F
F
F
A
Do
you
guys
need
any
support
from
others?
Here
you
got
everything
you
need.
F
We
have
advised
them
that
we
can
recommend
people
like
andrew
and
alexander
and,
for
example,
people
like
theodore,
who
I've
only
heard
about
secondhand,
but
that
we
don't
have
employees
so
that
we
would
be
happy
to
make
those
introductions
and
those
would
be
relationships
that
we
would
we
would
facilitate,
but
not
be
in
the
middle
of.
G
I
want
to
mention
that,
if
the,
if
the
grant
actually
goes
through,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
some
of
our
community
to
contribute
in
his
thinking.
Roon
has
designed
a
way
for
ots
to
be
paid
to
work
with
with
a
patient
to
test
a
specific
set
of
devices,
and
we
we
can
give
the
community
the
chance
to
actually
contribute
like
that,
and
it
would
be
a
paid
opportunity
assuming
the
grant
goes
through,
and
everything
is
well
defined.
A
Okay,
thanks
guys,
oh
giving
tuesday,
we
just
did
that
how'd
that
go
how'd.
We
do.
C
In
terms
of
money
coming
in,
we
got
a
thousand
bucks,
but
I
think
we
did
jump
through
all
the
hoops
of
putting
it
on
twitter
and
instagram
and
facebook
and
the
hub
and
trying
to
model.
You
know
what
something
that
maybe
other
chapters
can
take.
Some
notes
on.
I
can
share
my
screen
or
actually,
if
you
go
to
the
post,
you
can
see
that
we
just
had
sort
of
like
a
one
pager
for
the
enable
fund
that
we
shared
it
was
kind
of
which
post.
C
C
Oh,
it's
wonderful
there.
It
is
so
the
link
it
says,
a
giving
tuesday
there's
a
link
in
there.
Yeah.
C
Yeah
yeah,
that's
the
the
post
that
we
shared
and
also
it
was
an
email
to
our
master
list,
so
10
000
people
and
I
just
based
it
on
our
what
we
had
approved
last
year
john
and
I
made
some
edits.
But
next
I
think
it
is
wiser
to
maybe
have
a
separate
meeting
a
week
beforehand,
next
time
just
to
go
through.
If
there's
any
other
updates.
A
Yeah
that
would
help.
Well,
I
mean
raising
a
thousand
bucks
for
a
one
day.
Campaign
isn't
isn't
too
bad.
That's
certainly
helps
okay.
We
can
mark
that
off.
A
No
okay,
all
right.
So,
let's
talk
case
related
stuff.
We
just
so
there
was.
There
was
a
recent
meeting
with
the
our
friends
at
oh
who
is
bailey
with
bob
remind
me.
A
Rehabilitation,
who's
working
with
a
recipient
named
vishnu
and
we've
been
working
on
a
custom
device
for
him.
We
were
very
confident
that
the
first
prototype
we
were
sending
would
not
work,
but
it
would
give
us
the
feedback
we
need
to
move
forward.
So
there
was
a
meeting
earlier
this
week
to
kind
of
go
over
the
testing
and
get
some
feedback.
Bob
alexander,
you
guys
want
to
share
any
notes.
A
B
And
the
dog
goes
nuts:
when
the
clock
chimes,
12.,
okay,
we
got
it
alexander
I'll
I'll,
pass
it
over
to
you,
but
I
joined
the
meeting
late
because
of
confusion
with
links
and
everything
alexander
was
already
speaking
with
him
and
we
went
through
the
the
current
design.
And,
finally,
I
think
we
all
looked
at
it
and
said
you
know
no
matter
how
you
make
this
hand,
it's
going
to
be
huge.
B
I
really
don't
like
it
that
big,
I'm
more
concerned
that
just
does
certain
things
and
I
don't
care
if
it
looks
like
a
hand
at
which
point
alexander
then
said
well,
I
can
make
it
a
lot
simpler
and
if
I
don't
have
to
make
it
look
like
a
hand,
it
won't
be
quite
as
big
and
that's
kind
of
the
direction
we
decided
to
go
based
on
bishnu's
desires.
A
A
G
B
It
was
a
very
peculiar
call,
and
it
led
to
me
asking
about
this,
because
bailey
was
doing
all
the
talking
from
their
end
and
bishnu
was
sitting
there
very
quietly
and
it
occurred
to
us
that
we're
not
hearing
what
he
wants
and
then,
when
you
looked
at
the
hand
that
alexander
did,
which
was
a
brilliant
frankenstein
right,
no
matter
how
he
was
going
to
change
it,
it
wasn't
going
to
change
the
material
size
of
the
hand
exactly.
It
was
like
a
like:
a
baseball,
catcher's
mitt.
A
That
that's
always
been
the
challenge.
With
these
larger
residual
anatomies,
you
try
to
fit
it
inside,
something
that
is
trying
to
look
like
a
hand,
and
it
ends
up
being
really
huge.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
he's
open
to
a
functional
device
that
doesn't
need
to
look
like
a
hand.
That'll,
let
alexander
let
his
creative
juices
go
wild
and
come
up
with
something
amazing.
F
F
B
I
think
alexander
raised
an
excellent
question
and
I
can't
remember
whether
it
was
our
call
with
vishnu
or
it
was
our
town
hall
meeting
that
we're
trying
to
reconstruct
from
last
week,
but
maybe
an
early
question
to
people
which
I've
never
asked
to
be
honest
with
you,
and
I
don't
know
if
many
people
have
is.
Why
do
you
want
a
hand?
A
You
just
gave
me
another
idea,
then
bob
of
a
very
easy
change
we
can
make
in
enable
web
central,
because,
right
now
we
already
have
that
form
people
fill
out
when
they
want
to
request
a
device.
I'll
add
in
a
few
questions
about
what
are
you
looking
to
be
able
to
do
what's
important
to
you,
aesthetic
or
function,
etc?
We'll
ask
some
of
those
questions
you're,
absolutely
right.
We
should
be
yeah.
B
A
B
A
Yep,
well
that's
another
thing
that
we
had
on
the
roadmap
for
enable
web
central
that
we
just
never
got
to
because
we
sort
of
went
into
this
hiatus,
which
was
the
whole
follow-up
side
of
things
that
can
be
automated,
where
at
certain
periods
of
time
after
somebody
receives
a
device,
they
receive
a
request
to
fill
out
a
form
with
some
feedback
about
how
it's
being
used
or
not
used.
And
why
and
what's
working
what's
not
and
it
could
all
be
captured
back
into
our
database.
We
could
do
reporting
on
it.
It's
just
you
know.
B
B
Yes,
where
I
have
said
you
know
there
was
a
problem,
maybe
with
the
thumb
and
turns
out,
there's
a
feeling.
Maybe
his
thumb
is
okay,
but
it's
not
gripping
well
enough
and
in
any
event
it
broke,
and
there
was
some
dynamics
with
the
family.
B
B
Can
use
something
I'm
going
to
use
lee
tippy
fingers,
I
sent
them
they're
going
to
try
those
out
but
again
the
expectation
of
what
he
can
do
with
it.
What
he
did
find
is
that
moving
moving
a
wrist,
it's
not
a
natural
function
and
no
matter
what
anatomy
you
have
or
don't
have
you're
now
adding
another
maneuver
to
the
equation.
A
B
B
I'm
making
another
device
for
that
case
and
I
apologize.
I
gotta
run
to
another
call.
B
A
Anybody
else
have
anything
that
you'd
like
to
talk
about
case
related
okay.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
go
into
other
topics
since
we're
short
on
time.
You
know
the
onboarding
discussion
is
going
to
be
covered
in
next
week's
presentation
from
kevin,
and
I
don't
think
any
of
this.
This
other
stuff
is,
is
time
sensitive.
So
does
anybody
else
here?
Have
anything
you'd
like
to
talk
about
before
we
close.
F
I
gave
a
talk
to
everton's
group
in
brazil,
which
went
fine.
It
was
this
hybrid
of
enable
and
enable
as
a
model
and
as
this
climate
project
of
mine
as
a
new
iteration
of
the
model
and.
A
F
C
One
final
reminder:
yeah
so
monday:
we
have
the
educational
meeting,
that's
our
monthly
meeting
john
and
I
were
trying
to
to
come
up
with
what
the
focus
would
be
since
we
just
had
this
big
educational
conference.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
question
for
kevin
and
ally
if
she's
still
on
the
call.
How
would
you
guys
like
to
use
this
last
educational
monthly
meeting
in
your
tenure.
E
I'm
still
on
the
call,
I
guess
it
kind
of
depends
on
whether
or
not
anybody
from
the
event
shows
up.
But
if
we
do
have
participants,
maybe
we
could
do
a
debrief
with
them
and
get
some
feedback
since
we
didn't
get
any
like
written
feedback.
C
That
that
sounds
good,
so
maybe
we
can,
if
it's
possible,
do
we
have
any
preparation
on
our
side?
What
what
do
we
want
to
bring
with
us
to
that
meeting
and-
and
you.
A
C
Oh
know:
good
and
one
person
requested
a
badge
and
it's
still
pending.
E
The
event,
let
me
or
the
meeting,
let
me
know,
and
then
I
will
send
it
out.